1980's vs. 2022 Trangia Comparison - what's changed?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ก.ย. 2024
- Today we're going to compare a Trangia stove set from 1980 with my set from 2022 - a few minor differences, but it all comes down to the boil test - who will win!?
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Trangia. Nice to see a Company sticking to what works and not making changes just for the sake of.
''If it ain't broke ..
Yeah, the quality is still there, and a timeless design!
@@ForestPotCooking 👍
I have a 1978 25 and a 2021 hard anodised 27. I favour the 25 for the following reasons. The 25 heavier gauge aluminium is better for cooking, it is softer though so dings more easily, but any dents are easily pushed out. The raised strap loops on the 25 are much easier to thread. I much prefer the lift off top windshield over the twist top of the 27, but that's subjective. It's a one handed operation and makes use of the simmer ring much easier.
But I love them both, best outdoor cookset available IMO, silent, easy to find fuel, economical to run and spares for everything are readily available. Buy a Trangia once, look after it and it can last a lifetime.
In the older Trangia stove, a softer, heavier and thicker aluminum quality was used compared to the 2022 model.
In the newer Trangia stove, it is a thinner and harder aluminum alloy that enables thinner and lighter stoves, as well as punched-out band holders instead of riveted ditto.
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Thanks for the info, from the home of the Trangia!
@@ForestPotCooking dunno if you tried but I'll put money on the fact that the older windshield can sit on the inside of the frying pan so you can use it in snow without the windshield sinking in to the snow. the new one doesn't let you do that. I have a new-ish one (maybe fifteen to twenty years old) and it doesn't fit on mine. My old man's trangia went to my younger brother after dad passed away and I was annoyed that I didn't swap them around before hand! lol!
It's quite remarkable that the design of this product has remained so consistent over time. 😮
Yes it is incredible! Thanks for watching!
Quality endures
@@andydawson5587 Low quality endures.
Why use irritating back ground music which distracts from your commentary
Will try and use more sparingly!
The completely unnecessary music track is extremely distracting.😢
Ah ok!
What you don't mention is the availability of non-stick coatings or steel pans nowadays. Arguably a criticism of Trangia's conservatism is their failure to improve the simmer control ring.
If you do more of these videos, please cut out the really annoying guitar twanging in the background!
The simmer ring is a bit fiddly!
Thanks for the nice video, but irritating background music - sorry.
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Brilliant comparison👍Great to see a Company that got it right first time and they're still going strong 🤘Love my mini and 25-7 HA to bits for my trips out . ATVB from a Brit expat now settled in sunny Malaysia 🇲🇾 New sub to your channel btw
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I just got a mini too, it’s great!
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TOO BULKY ! in the lightweight BP world .
Yeah, it’s not perfect for every situation, but it is wonderfully easy to use
Had my 40 yrs now. Used it just this week in a game park.
The quiet stove. Love it
Great to hear!
I imagine the older one having the black soot build up absorbed more heat quicker. Have noticed that on well used kelly kettles.
Yeah, that’s an interesting idea that it’ll improve with age. Trangias are great as they’re so robust and don’t wear out!
Not sure if this set is worth it. Not very packable. A lot of useless weight in the stand ahd wind sheeld.
Depends what you need I guess. There is a smaller Trangia mini, I’ve done a review of that too. Much smaller but still very capable.
1980 the year I graduated High School…
I was just trying to think of 80's food I can cook on an 80's Trangia! Any suggestions welcome!
That simmer ring on yours is interesting, I have my 24 from 1984 but mine is like the newer simmer ring. The rest of the set is the same as your old one, gutted that in a house move I seem to have lost my frying pan and the lid off my kettle. I now have a 27 which is far better for my purposes, the 24 was just too heavy and bulky for camping/walking. My parents bought it for me when I set off hitching across Europe with a mate.
I wonder how many miles you’re Trangia has on it then! Mines not been that far!
I recently acquired a new in box, unused set from the 1970s. I can’t decide whether to use it or keep it for a museum!
Ooh that is a dilemma!
Had to stop watching. The music was way too loud and had difficulty hearing what was being said
If it ain't broke why try to fix it?
The newer Trangia base has the hole for the gas burner hose which the older ones don't.
Yup, not sure exactly when they introduced that, but it’s certainly not there in the 80s model
@@sebastianforbes1 always good to have around incase off a power cut too!
My 1990s trangia has the newer base and burner but with the older frying pan and kettle
Evolution in action!
In cooking, I much prefer a thicker base to a pan. It cooks better, more evenly and uses less heat to do so. If given a choice, I would prefer to buy someone’s used older Trangia, even with the dark pan sides, than a shiny new one from a shop!
Your experiment shows it’s more efficient.
When you weighed the pans, my first thought was that the old one is thicker. It also holds the heat in better.
I wonder what they changed to make the new one give off less heat?
Maybe, maybe it was to make it lighter for back packers? Maybe to make them cheaper to produce. But i agree, it’s not like they wear out, buying an old one is better for the environment and a slightly better product! Unless you really want the gas hole…
You can easily cut a hole for the gasburner in the old ones. I have done it a couple of times, no problems
Great quality. Trangia and Stanley are my go tos, because they hold up year after year.
Yeah, lasts more than a lifetime!
Time moves slow at the Trangia factory. . .
If it ain't broke, don't fix it!
Trangia does have spare parts so you can buy the missing plastic part to the handle of the coffeepot if you want.
Liked this video a lot as I've often wondered about this. I bought my trangia in 1986 and it's identical to your old one, EXCEPT it has the 'new' simmer ring.
It seems like they switched to the ‘new’ design since tone in the early eighties.
Interesting video, could have turned the music down a bit though.
I did not know they made this entire kit! I think I need this
Get one!
I have one of the older sets without the hole for the gas burner, but have picked up a gas burner for it. What is the size of the holes for the gas burner on the new one and how far from the top are they?
I cut out a hole in the base, I used the small ventilation holes. 8 holes wide and all 4 up with a Dremel and a file. It works fine.
Music is too much.
Ah sorry, will try and do anther video with the old set later this year. Less music in my more recent videos! But thanks for watching.
My 1983 burner simmer ring is the same as your 2022 model, as is the burner on the 1986 mini Trangia I have. Otherwise everything is as per your parent's 1980 model.
Interesting, I think it is from 1980, maybe 81 so maybe they added the dinner ring some time in the early 80s
I brought mine late 1980s , [the small set ie 27] my simmer ring is also like your modern one
@@ForestPotCookingI recently came by an older model Trangia with the same simmer ring as the one you have here. How exactly do you extinguish the flame? I know they say not to use the cap as the O-ring can be damaged, but I am not sure how that old simmer ring can be used like the newer versions?
Nice design, but imo really low quality pots and pans. I upgraded to a gas adapter on mine but still just can;t live with the lowest quality pans I've ever seen ! Mine are the nonstick which although worked great in the fry pan I noticed the covering is super thin, wears through & flakes off a lot, even though I'm quite gentle with all my gear and take care when handling.
Which pans do you recommend? I’ve only got the standard set, not non-stick…
Bought a 27 after years of using gas stoves. Should have done it a long time ago. Just cannot fault it - ! 😊
Good stuff!
To make a true comparison on temps and cooking timed i think the large ventilation hole should be facing the same way?
It's a mesh table
Interesting comparison between the two.
I was expecting the hotter burning one to boil faster😁
Good little cook kits!
Glad you enjoyed it
Although the old burns hotter it has to heat thicker aluminum which takes longer.
@@kylewilkinson6975 thanks for the explanation Kyle! I appreciate it😁
@@kylewilkinson6975 the thicker material probably dissipates the heat better, a more even cooking surface. But it is heavier!
Would the placement of the one stove block a little bit of a non noticable breeze?
Maybe, it’s not quiet laboratory conditions!
It’s a design that works beautifully. No need to change it. 👍
Thank you! Cheers!
Weigh them,that old one is going to be thicker better quality.
Thicker doesn't always translate to better quality. I wonder if they are keeping the same alloy.
How much better is the bowls inserted with the stainless steel inserts? Wondering if someone has given them a comparison and the advantages? Thanks for Sharing as I believe I might be on the lookout for the older model.
Good question! I didn’t notice much difference to be honest, the bowls seemed to be pretty similar, certainly felt less different than the frying pans.
Have the inner -27 duossal. Will be getting the outer in a month or two, hopefully. Wonder about the “frying pan” - better to get nonstick, Hard Anodized, or Duossal? (Mostly plan on “pan-bread (gluten-free), and the occasional eggs.)
One thing did not change as well, the lid gasket is non-standard and is impossible to be found in Italy. Also, the "simmering" is very unpractical. How glad I am I switched to gas. I like those Trangia though, for their elegant "essential" nature.
I have a separate gas cooker, but are the Trangia gas adapter looks cool!
The O-ring to the lid is a spare part that you can buy, you can always buy it on line from Trangia.
@@kjell-oh7ez Of course, but the cost of the "spare part" and the shipping makes more convenient buying a new Trangia.
"TIME is the true test of quality". Old riveted strap holder is stronger. 'Locking' windscreen/support is an improvement, but newer thinner aluminum not necessarily better for everyone. Same for kettle lid knob. As for "boil test', NOT everyone is in a rush when camping and slightly lower heat is better for most 'cooking'.
Hello,
Interesting video.... I still have the old one...
Take care.
Paul,,
When do you think yours was made? Would be great to see one from every decade!
@@ForestPotCooking I am not sure of the age, it does not have the hole for the gas bottle conversion.
Vibes of '3 Cups 'n ball' magic trick..
I’d make a rabbit appear in the pot, but that wouldn’t be very vegan! Thanks for watching!
@@ForestPotCookingJus' like that !
This is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks for putting this together.
Glad it was helpful!
Let me know if there are other types of video you’d like to see!
Ditch the annoying music
Wouldn’t it be boring with nothing in the background!
@@ForestPotCooking no its distracting
@@ForestPotCooking I like the music but I find it too loud in comparison to the narration.
I like it, as long as it's quiet
@@peanutspicks thanks! Not put any on my recent videos as I’ve done more talking but backing music will be back soon!
I wish they had titanium pots and kettles.
What would be the advantage? Weight?
They used to make them but stopped.
I forgot, the non stick was an improvement!
I haven’t got non stock on either! Maybe I’ll upgrade in a couple more decades!
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Glad you enjoyed it!
I wouldnt cook in aluminum
Only once in a while!
But of course you have a alternativ
"Duossal 2.0™, unique to Trangia, is made from aluminium and stainless steel that have been laminated together under extreme pressure. An optimal combination where the aluminium outer layer has excellent heat conducting abilities while the inner layer in stainless steel makes the pot durable and easy to clean. The material is 0.8 mm thick, of which 0.3 mm is stainless steel; these are robust pots for real cooking in the outdoors."