Cheap ebay gas stove that comes in that orange plastic case. It works and is lite. The bad is that the pot/pan hinges are to small so a flat surface is absolutely needed to keep sturdy.
I just bought a Trangia and the bottle you have as well.....however, I have been using an alcohol stove that came with a kit from Pathfinder. The kit comes with the stove with wind screen / stand as well as a metal water bottle nested into a sizable metal cup. It also has a cheap but effective plastic bottle for fuel. Inexpensive and complete...it never has failed me.
For me, my alcohol stove is perfect in most circumstances. I will happily take mine on multi day trips. It is silent, which is an important part. No roaring of gas. It is light weight. I can carry just the amount of fuel I know I will need. I know that my stove will take 30ml alcohol to boil 250ml water. No more guessing how much gas is in the canister. Alcohol is easy to find in any corner store or small town supermarket. Gas canisters are not. Melts snow better than gas. It works better in freezing conditions. I happily keep my alcohol in a reused water bottle. Good to see others using alcohol stoves for similar reasons. We have all the time in the world.
Keeep my alcohol in a "Irn-Bru" Scottish plastic bottle. Those things are still light but crazy over-engineered. I'm a big guy but I can stand on one (full of water) with my boots on and it didn't split. Plus it gives me a beam of joy to see an Irn-Bru bottle (Scottish pride!).
Let's say you go somewhere remote, there is the occasional garage, corner store like you say. Which alcohol could you use in it, theoretically? I heard someone used hand sanitizer even. If true, that's pretty amazing.
@@ryand141 I'm in Europe. I use Alcool a bruler 90° which is easily available. It costs a couple euros for a litre. I hear Americans mentioning Heet yellow...
@@darthkek1953 Haha, im guessing the alchohol is leeching plastics out of the bottle. Which is why special bottles are often sold. But if you dont store in in there long therm it should be okay.
Really? I found the review horrible. Barely any information given on pros/cons. Then the huge overdimensioned alcohol bottle. Also alcohol is not more enviromental friendly. 2022 there was a study that concluded 24% more CO2 is released by alcohol manufacturing and burning compared to using gasoline. If he cares about the enviroment then he should get a wood hobo
I bought the Trangia Stormcooker (small 27 size, not the 25) and alcohol stove after watching some of your videos. Now I use it for any short solo trip! Your philosophy on taking time to let it make your coffee is a lesson well learned in today's hectic world. Peace comes from slowing down!
glad you got to appreciate the ceremony too. not waiting impatiently, but watching the flames and warming your hands, listening to the woods and that tiny kettle, on a cold autumn morning. (the tent open, but leaving your sleeping bag as little as possible yet) relishing comfort and convenience of the tiny fire you brought .. maybe even thinking about times long before that kind of comfort, while you smell your coffee steeping. a very zen experience.
Hi Eric, I still have a memory from just after the war when I acquired a German ":Term" alcohol stove, very efficient it was too but heavy then I bought a "Trangia" which I still have after all these years. The pot set is long gone but the stove is indestructible and still in regular use and still by far the most reliable; all my long walks have been with this stove and I would not be without it for anything. As you said silent and slow, not the best for fuel efficiency, but a one hundred percent renewable and environmentally safe fuel, and at my time of life slow is what I do best!
Just had a long day of relational concentrating. Came home after three hours driving as well. Sharing a few minutes with you. Your measured sharing and plain speaking. Your moment of noticing the raven, prioritizing the moment you were in over the 'job' of talking to us. Exactly what I needed. That shifted my perception "up and out" in the gentlest way. Thanks for being you and sharing with me.
The sustainability of alcohol fuel makes a big difference to me. Ethanol is grown on the surface rather than extracted by drilling, which is so important, and there is no empty canister to throw away at the end of the trip. I prefer to use wood when I can of course, in a gasifier or a in small pile of stones. When I use a stove, I mostly use a Coleman Stove in a Can, which is a cheap wicking liquid fuel stove that is marketed as disposable, but is actually very easy to refill with alcohol. It is slow burning but I bet it's good in the winter because of the wick, not that I'd know, I always have a fire in the winter.
Silence and time. Two of the most important things in life the most of the people just not think about! Since years I slow down myself and my life as much as possible. I just don't want to be in an hurry anymore and especially not stressed. My time is there for me. And if I have the possibility I spend it in silent nature.
Nice video. I've been using the same Trangia burner for over 25 years. I carry a small plastic funnel, weighing less than a half ounce, taking up virtually no pack space, and use it to put the unused fuel in the burner back into the fuel bottle. I can't understand why so few Trangia reviews mention this. It's a simple way to solve the problem of unused fuel.
I was just out for a little hike today (on Mt Hood in Oregon USA) ..I used my little gas canister stove to heat up some noodle soup and coffee under a beautiful light snow fall. The only problem - the noise :) it really does disrupt the silence. I think I'll try an alcohol stove for exactly this reason. Plus, I'm also in no hurry.
Hello momobad. May i ask you how the current wildfires situation is in Oregon/ around your area, or Bend/Sisters? Thank you for a message. Cheers from Switzerland.
@@chrisfrueh3148 Hey, thanks for asking. The fire situation is under control now (AFAIK), but there was a lot of devastation. The towns of Bend and Sisters themselves were not burned - but the area around Detroit Lake (to the west of Sisters) was pretty bad - I drove through there a couple weeks ago and was amazed at the destruction. Its really hard to describe. You can see maps of the fires here: www.oregon.gov/odf/fire/pages/firestats.aspx
Hello from Eugene! I would love to start using an alcohol stove for all the reasons Erik has pointed out, but I haven't been able to find alcohol anywhere since March... Where are you buying alcohol these days? I've checked everywhere and still no luck. Any tips would be much appreciated.
These videos and the videos of wise Jon Jandai (permaculture farmer) get my week off to a good start. My father did a lot of research into ethanol during his 20 years in Africa to help the rural communities.
Lovely scenery, how well you blend in (physically and emotionally)! The Reindeer Moss fascinates. Good lesson on the stove. Thank you for another great vid, Erik. Keep well.
I was going to write the same type of comment 'H' made about time...if only everyone tried to have the same mindset. Great instructional content. I have a Trangia that is my go-to on most outings. I always bring a twig stove too as it weighs nothing and gives me the comfort to know I have a backup. Two is one, one is none.
Is English your native language? It's hard for me to judge. This language is not my native language, but in my opinion, he spoke clearly and quite unambiguously.
I have a Trangia filled up in my pack on most day trips or overnighters. If I want a cuppa before getting to camp or before getting the fire going it is nice to have an option to fall back to. Just a nice nostalgic but useful little backup.
Good Morning Erik .. Yes, why Alcohol? One cannot fault your reasoning .. my favourite fuel 👍. What I also like about alcohol fuel is it's availability. Here in Switzerland .. almost everywhere .. and it's cheap. Besides my Trangia, I also use a myriad of little home-made Alcohol Burners filled with Glass Wool which soaks up the fuel therein and reduces enormously the threat of accidental spillage. Unused fuel? One gets to judge how much is required .. and rather less than more. If I have to refill, ok .. I have time. Good tip regarding the match. I picked up on this a while back and started doing it .. thanks. Take care ..
@@erik_normark Rather than glass wool, try carbon fiber felt ... won’t melt at as low temp,, and wicks the fuel very nicely. Available at welders’ supply stores and thst large online retailer.
@@ryand141 I have used my Trangia, filled with Glass Wool and then topped with a strip of tightly-rolled Carbon Cloth to keep everything in place for a while now and will never go back. Very much reduced risk of spillage in case of a knock over. Stove lights up easier in below-freezing temperatures. The pot can be put onto the stand immediately thereafter without having to wait for the 'bloom' .. the still cold stove will not 'snuff' out. Stove performance .. to the eye .. does not appear to be affected so as to be of concern. Try it.
Alcohol stoves are lightweight (specially DIY ones) and silent. True. I have not used my Trangia for some years now. Every time when I pack up for a hike, I decide to take my lightweight canister stove (BRS+100g canister) or go stoveless in warm weather conditions. Canister stove setup is easy, cheap (when you refill canister), lighweight and convenient to use +safer to handle as liquid alkohol stoves. I keep my Trangia cook set only for canoe trips in scandinavia, where weight dont matters. Great video Erik!
For me I will always prefer the alcohol stove. I love the silence. There's no stress in nature. You make coffee or cook food to wind down, to recharge. What better way to do so than listening to nature undisturbed by the stove? I haven't been out for long hikes, usually just one to three nights, I never felt the need for a gas stove. :) I have the smaller 33cl fuel bottle from Trangia. I think it's much better in size for smaller excursions. :)
Simple and reliable nothing else matters out there. Time is a manmade concept thats falls apart when you are outdoors...so it never counts. All the best from germany! May the old gods always be with you.
Two devices that the new ones can’t beat are the Trangia burner and the German military mess kit. Both have the same two features: simplicity and reliability. When conditions are bad, their value becomes clear.
It is always wonderful to hear your gear philosophy... I use trangia myself and for sometimes, shifted to a mini alcohal stove ( cat can type), that not only has a pot stand but also small enough to fit inside Toaks 500 ml mug, along with wind shield, gas lighter, coffee sachets and mini fuel bottle... Works for me for short hikes....
You sir, are a most interesting camper. (American slang for eclectic person) and as a fellow interesting camper I love your videos. I use alcohol stoves when we have a power outage to make coffee ☕ same hobo style as you. I just made my alcohol stove from a discarded beer can using an ice pick. Works exactly like this. Amazing videos sir, thanks for the time involved in videoing (?) and editing and the solitude of the woods!
Lovely peaceful place for your cup of coffee. I also never put myself into a position of being rushed when out in nature. I enjoy every minute with much appreciation. Thanks for the info on your stove.
I mainly use alcohol stoves for same reasons. I use gas a little bit but have also just started using trangia gel burner which is also very good and easy to carry gel blocks in kettle and anywhere you can fit them. 👍
The Trangia stove and kit are my go to kit..light , clean burning and easy to find fuel. I have a white gas stove as well, but it is noisy and somewhat heavy. Great videos. Cheers from Nova Scotia. M.
Simple is good. I use my alcohol stove when I car camp, especially if its too cold to use a propane stove. Also, I don't have to worry about storing the fuel, unlike a gas stove. I've also used it in my house when the power went out after a storm, I just use it in one of my iron frying pans on the stove (to contain any spills).
What a perfect review and video! Erik "gets it". I'm always more than just a little amused by all the stove reviews that run stop watches against stove systems and declare "winners" over a 9 second difference in boil times. I've always said "If you're sitting down in the back country and using a stop watch....you're doing it wrong." Trangia: Light. Compact. Affordable. Silent. No moving parts to fiddle with or fail. Utterly reliable. Acceptably efficient. Fuel is ubiquitous. A billion after market accessory options. A category copied by many but improved upon by none.
The last 50 years it's been alcohol stoves or wood burning stoves for me. I have used white gas stoves and they break or leak. Propane stoves the valves can get stuck ( leak ) and you are out of gas. Both of them are loud & sound like Jets. MSR calls one Whisper light and it does not whisper. For my personal use it's alcohol or wood. For the most part it's been the Tangias. I have used them on trips over 3 weeks long. In the last few years for alcohol I switched over to the Evernew Titanium Appalachian set. Everything is in a kit with a combined weight of less then 6 ounces. ( 5.7 actually ) For wood it's the Firebox titanium Nano Gen 2 ( 4 ounces ). Both [ Evernew & Firebox ] when combined have a weight of 10 ounces. Only way to describe them , light and Reliable. In the past I have never been in a hurry when camping and now that I'm 76 and a heart patient (One of many reasons for me being a Ultralight camper ) I finally have a excuse to take it slow and easy.
I usually use canister stoves, but fuel has been hard to come by here in Canada due to COVID. So this year I started trying out a homemade alcohol stove, using a design I'm actually satisfied with. My friends are usually impressed with the resourcefulness and the ingenuity of such a simple stove.
Indeed, the last few years the trangia has been my go to stove. Simple light silent cheap easy.. Only that leaking. I just found out the leaking was not the lid but the edge where it is seamed together . Very annoying. The advantage was to carry the fuel inside. One filling will do for a night over. Now I'm looking at the white box stove. It is even more simple.. Cheers, have a nice winter
I love my Trangia burners - please note the "s!" Yes, I have several of them and use them regularly for all the reasons you mentioned, especially the silence. thanks for your lovely video...love the ravens with you...ATB
Until the mid 1990's we only have to choose between the Trangia alcohol stove and the Optimus 111 kerosone burner. I prefered Trangia because of it's weight. When Trangia intoduced their gasstove I feel it was a great progress and I put away the alcohol stove. Today I most of the time use the MSR Windpro 2 stove throughout the year. The option of burning gas liquid and the wintergas make this stove very versatile. The Trangia triangle is right now out of stock everywhere. It will be back on the market in the year 2021 a bit modified. Today you also have different types of alcohol mixtures you can use in your Trangia stove.
It’s now January 2022 and the Triangle is still out of stock, I’m not sure what Trangia are doing but I hope they get it back on the market soon. I used to own a Triangle but sold it to a friend and always regretted that. I currently use a Firebox Titanium Nano Gen 2 with Trangia spirit burner, but I’ll probably switch back to the Triangle if I can get another one - they’re simpler and a little more stable.
I always use my Trangia alcohol stove when I don’t make a fire. The simplicity and quiet operation is paramount to me. When I’m in the woods I’m in no rush...
This mate reviews a Trangia stove as he's acting in a dramatic/survival movie. Long pauses, deep voice, the looks, the raven passing by. I want a movie out of it and with him :) Thanks Mr Erik, I enjoyed the video a lot :)
Thanks Erik. I've used probably every kind of stove but if I had to choose a favourite it would be one that uses the Trangia burner for all the reasons you give. I find only the very occasional one is not fuel-tight, so I keep the good ones and get rid of any that leak. Efficiency is a concept we don't need to worry about so much in the woods. A 1 litre Trangia bottle will last for a long time. Noel
I took an alcohol stove a gas stove and had a campfire. I found the gas to be quickest the fire to be dangerous and the alcohol to be the longest and most annoying, but also the only guaranteed way in almost any weather to cook food. I preferred the alcohol. 👍
A great conversation on alcohol stoves and use. Ravens are always looking and talking. I just passed on a Sigg cooker set from the 1960s that was made to work with an alcohol burner like the Trangia. I may look it back up.
Trangia stove is the best stove ever. From minimalist triangle or 28 mini to a 25 with gas for family car camping, or 27 with a Nova multifuel burner for expedition. I use them all, the simple and silent alcohol burner, as you say silent and no rush. Maybe try the BioEthanol Gel burner for even more lightweight and environmentally friendly
I use alcohol for all my hikes, usually ½ a liter for 5-7days, burning morning and evening. I have a smaller titanium stove that is just an open container with a burnproof felt inside, and I'm able to keep leftover fuel inside with a lid that actually seals much better than the trangia stoves. My windscreen/pot holder seals around the pot completely, and makes heating water quicker than with a trangia, on average 4-6 mins for 500ml.
That is why I use the same stove and windscreen. Never had to go with out my tea. I also figured where it was made it must be good. It is part of relaxing adding enjoying. Thanks for posting. Be well and Trail on!
I have put away my gas stove and gone with a mini Trangia. I believe the Trangia is better all round environmentally and I will not be going back to the gas. Thank you for your lovely video, so chilled.
I was solo camping in the woods when you posted this and happened to go back to an internet spot the day this was posted. Was pretty cool to see you doing the same kind of thing also.
I see you using this stove but it’s nice to hear the pros and cons and the match trick. Little demos like this are most welcome especially in the beautiful woods..take care 🇨🇦 🔥
I could listen to you all day. I love how the raven was more important than your movie! I just came back from a winter hike with my home made alcohol stove and I agree about simplicity and reliability.
Hiram Cook on TH-cam is the master of alcohol stoves. Boil times, fuel types, stand types, diy, baking, product reviews and the list goes on. If you ever wanted to know anything about the subject, he's your man!😁😁
Terrific information. We need to get our Trangia stove back out and use it. We stopped because we cannot find a fuel bottle that does not leak. We will look harder. Thank you.
I have switch mainly to the trangia as well with a home made pot stand/ wind screen for most of my trips when I'm not using fire for the same reasons as you. The low noise level is best out in the woods. I will use the white gas if the trip is designed to where I just need to cook/hot water fast and efficiently but I don't like the noise or the leftover empty canisters. Nate
I use a stick stove much of the time, but I also carry a small alcohol stove that fits inside for longer trips, as a back up on rainy days. Sometimes on day trips I'll bring the alcohol instead of the stick one because it's so light and easy. Except when there are fire bans in the woods of course. Then it's alcohol or gas stove.
A great vídeo Erik. I am also a big fan of the alcohol stove. It’s my go-to stove and I agree it’s much better for the environment. Thanks and take care. Ben
I´m using either twig stove or gas. If a campfire is not an option. Maybe some day I should try an alcohol stove too. Thanks for the video and greetings from Finland!
I've been using an alcohol stove (a trangia) for 15 years and I'm very happy with it. Alcohol is cheap, you can put it in any container, it burns cleanly, and you can find it anywhere. The Trangia comes with a regulator cap, and you can use that to extinguish the flame before you put on the screw cap, which for me has always held without leaks, so no waste. When it's really frigid, you might need to put the alcohol and/or the stove in your pocket for a while to get the temperature up a bit before lighting it.
The simmer ring that is supplied with the burner is used to extinguish the flame when you have finished cooking. You can also use it to moderate the flame to 50% or 25% when cooking. There's no need to let the burner run out of fuel when it's finished.
I do a lot of stealth camping and alcohol stoves are nice and quiet...no hissing sounds like the butane stoves which could give your position away. I like the military folding stove and either a Fancy Feast can or a larger Friskies can. No alterations or mods, just pour the fuel in the container and light it with either a match or a Crocs lighter, one with the extended nozzle. An 8 ounce Vargo bottle of alcohol or HEET will last me an entire two days of camping. On long hikes and backpacking trips I do prefer the BSR and canister stove for the quickness. I love your videos...enjoyable and informative.
I made comparison gas vs alcohol. 1/2 litre tap water to boiling. Trangia 27 set and gas burner with high foltable windshield. Gas burned 8 gram and trangia 15 gram. When bottles weights count, in trip can take more alcohol. When with gas can boil 29 times, with alcohol 22 times (24 % less), same amount of water.
I use a fancee feast alcohol stove with welder’s felt as the wick. I store my fuel in a old cough syrup bottle that fits inside the stove. The bottle is thicker plastic with a safety cap. Weighs just a few ounces, and costs very little money to make the whole setup. Many thanks to you Eric from the USA!
Regarding the Trangia alcohol burner leaking dispute the o-ring, Firebox sells a soldered version for a few more dollars that reliably solves the problem...
Thanks for the cold weather lighting tip. I'll give it a try next time I'm out in cold weather. Love my Trangia stoves for the quiet and simplicity of design. I built a few Fancee Feest stoves some using woven fiberglass and some with carbon fiber felt. Their lighter than the Trangia and have a built in pot stand.
Hope you’re well Erik my friend? Love the camera work and use of focus. Winter is definitely upon us now! Nothing compares to a Trangia, I actually find myself using mine (I have a really old model Trangia 27 that had the thicker metal and without cut out for the gas burner) more than my MSR pocket rocket gas stove these days. Too noisy, literally pocket rocket by name and nature it’s like a jet engine! I never find it gives the same sense of calm and satisfaction as using the Trangia. I use BioEthanol in mine now, much cleaner burn than Meths and no taste. Boils water about a minute or so slower than the MSR so alcohol is not as slow as people think! Look after yourself Erik. All the best.
Thank you for this, Erik 👍 I use alcohol, gas and kerosene depending on the temperature and situation. Definitely like the alcohol one for exactly the reasons you mentioned 😊 Have a nice Sunday 😃
Which stove do you like best? What are the pros and cons?
Cheap ebay gas stove that comes in that orange plastic case. It works and is lite. The bad is that the pot/pan hinges are to small so a flat surface is absolutely needed to keep sturdy.
I use different ones, gas and wodden are my two go to. I do have an alcohol stove too but I rarely use it
@sid shamrock is that the one with a pump action fuel bottle?
stoveless
I just bought a Trangia and the bottle you have as well.....however, I have been using an alcohol stove that came with a kit from Pathfinder. The kit comes with the stove with wind screen / stand as well as a metal water bottle nested into a sizable metal cup. It also has a cheap but effective plastic bottle for fuel. Inexpensive and complete...it never has failed me.
I bought my Trangia in 1987. After hundreds of trips it still works perfectly. Fantastic.
Probably due to zero moving parts😅
For me, my alcohol stove is perfect in most circumstances. I will happily take mine on multi day trips.
It is silent, which is an important part. No roaring of gas.
It is light weight.
I can carry just the amount of fuel I know I will need. I know that my stove will take 30ml alcohol to boil 250ml water. No more guessing how much gas is in the canister.
Alcohol is easy to find in any corner store or small town supermarket. Gas canisters are not.
Melts snow better than gas. It works better in freezing conditions.
I happily keep my alcohol in a reused water bottle.
Good to see others using alcohol stoves for similar reasons. We have all the time in the world.
Keeep my alcohol in a "Irn-Bru" Scottish plastic bottle. Those things are still light but crazy over-engineered. I'm a big guy but I can stand on one (full of water) with my boots on and it didn't split. Plus it gives me a beam of joy to see an Irn-Bru bottle (Scottish pride!).
Let's say you go somewhere remote, there is the occasional garage, corner store like you say. Which alcohol could you use in it, theoretically? I heard someone used hand sanitizer even. If true, that's pretty amazing.
@@ryand141 I'm in Europe. I use Alcool a bruler 90° which is easily available. It costs a couple euros for a litre. I hear Americans mentioning Heet yellow...
@@darthkek1953 Haha, im guessing the alchohol is leeching plastics out of the bottle. Which is why special bottles are often sold. But if you dont store in in there long therm it should be okay.
30ml should burn for around 20 mins, so you should be able to boil more than 250ml of water in that time?
Why can’t all reviews be like that? Relaxed, informative, this is the stove I use and why I use it.
Amen
Really? I found the review horrible.
Barely any information given on pros/cons.
Then the huge overdimensioned alcohol bottle.
Also alcohol is not more enviromental friendly. 2022 there was a study that concluded 24% more CO2 is released by alcohol manufacturing and burning compared to using gasoline.
If he cares about the enviroment then he should get a wood hobo
Your vids are so calming
I could have this guy narrate any story and it would set my mind at ease..
my 6 years old son loves your videos! he always asks me when we are going to do all those thing that gentleman is doing
I bought the Trangia Stormcooker (small 27 size, not the 25) and alcohol stove after watching some of your videos. Now I use it for any short solo trip! Your philosophy on taking time to let it make your coffee is a lesson well learned in today's hectic world. Peace comes from slowing down!
glad you got to appreciate the ceremony too. not waiting impatiently, but watching the flames and warming your hands, listening to the woods and that tiny kettle, on a cold autumn morning. (the tent open, but leaving your sleeping bag as little as possible yet) relishing comfort and convenience of the tiny fire you brought .. maybe even thinking about times long before that kind of comfort, while you smell your coffee steeping.
a very zen experience.
Hi Eric, I still have a memory from just after the war when I acquired a German ":Term" alcohol stove, very efficient it was too but heavy then I bought a "Trangia" which I still have after all these years. The pot set is long gone but the stove is indestructible and still in regular use and still by far the most reliable; all my long walks have been with this stove and I would not be without it for anything. As you said silent and slow, not the best for fuel efficiency, but a one hundred percent renewable and environmentally safe fuel, and at my time of life slow is what I do best!
Just had a long day of relational concentrating. Came home after three hours driving as well. Sharing a few minutes with you. Your measured sharing and plain speaking. Your moment of noticing the raven, prioritizing the moment you were in over the 'job' of talking to us. Exactly what I needed. That shifted my perception "up and out" in the gentlest way. Thanks for being you and sharing with me.
Thanks Mikel!
The sustainability of alcohol fuel makes a big difference to me. Ethanol is grown on the surface rather than extracted by drilling, which is so important, and there is no empty canister to throw away at the end of the trip. I prefer to use wood when I can of course, in a gasifier or a in small pile of stones. When I use a stove, I mostly use a Coleman Stove in a Can, which is a cheap wicking liquid fuel stove that is marketed as disposable, but is actually very easy to refill with alcohol. It is slow burning but I bet it's good in the winter because of the wick, not that I'd know, I always have a fire in the winter.
For me to watch you silently go around and put things for youself is like doing a sort of Meditation.
Calm.
Love, from India.
Silence and time.
Two of the most important things in life the most of the people just not think about!
Since years I slow down myself and my life as much as possible. I just don't want to be in an hurry anymore and especially not stressed.
My time is there for me.
And if I have the possibility I spend it in silent nature.
Nice video. I've been using the same Trangia burner for over 25 years. I carry a small plastic funnel, weighing less than a half ounce, taking up virtually no pack space, and use it to put the unused fuel in the burner back into the fuel bottle. I can't understand why so few Trangia reviews mention this. It's a simple way to solve the problem of unused fuel.
I was just out for a little hike today (on Mt Hood in Oregon USA) ..I used my little gas canister stove to heat up some noodle soup and coffee under a beautiful light snow fall. The only problem - the noise :) it really does disrupt the silence. I think I'll try an alcohol stove for exactly this reason. Plus, I'm also in no hurry.
Hello momobad. May i ask you how the current wildfires situation is in Oregon/ around your area, or Bend/Sisters? Thank you for a message. Cheers from Switzerland.
@@chrisfrueh3148 Hey, thanks for asking. The fire situation is under control now (AFAIK), but there was a lot of devastation. The towns of Bend and Sisters themselves were not burned - but the area around Detroit Lake (to the west of Sisters) was pretty bad - I drove through there a couple weeks ago and was amazed at the destruction. Its really hard to describe.
You can see maps of the fires here: www.oregon.gov/odf/fire/pages/firestats.aspx
@@momobadilak Thanks a lot Mo, for your reply and link. Do you know Joel van der Loon from Bush Survival Training in Sisters? Best regards from Chris.
@@chrisfrueh3148 I don't know Joel - i'll look him up :)
Hello from Eugene! I would love to start using an alcohol stove for all the reasons Erik has pointed out, but I haven't been able to find alcohol anywhere since March... Where are you buying alcohol these days? I've checked everywhere and still no luck. Any tips would be much appreciated.
These videos and the videos of wise Jon Jandai (permaculture farmer) get my week off to a good start. My father did a lot of research into ethanol during his 20 years in Africa to help the rural communities.
I liked your creative use of focus in this video.
Lovely scenery, how well you blend in (physically and emotionally)! The Reindeer Moss fascinates. Good lesson on the stove. Thank you for another great vid, Erik. Keep well.
Thanks!
I was going to write the same type of comment 'H' made about time...if only everyone tried to have the same mindset. Great instructional content. I have a Trangia that is my go-to on most outings. I always bring a twig stove too as it weighs nothing and gives me the comfort to know I have a backup. Two is one, one is none.
1:58 I'm not in a hurry, I'm all the time in the world! 👍
He said pretty clearly ... I have all the time in the world
Is English your native language?
It's hard for me to judge. This language is not my native language, but in my opinion, he spoke clearly and quite unambiguously.
1:56 "I'm not in a hurry. I have all the time in the World.." =)
I have a Trangia filled up in my pack on most day trips or overnighters. If I want a cuppa before getting to camp or before getting the fire going it is nice to have an option to fall back to. Just a nice nostalgic but useful little backup.
Good Morning Erik ..
Yes, why Alcohol? One cannot fault your reasoning .. my favourite fuel 👍.
What I also like about alcohol fuel is it's availability. Here in Switzerland .. almost everywhere .. and it's cheap.
Besides my Trangia, I also use a myriad of little home-made Alcohol Burners filled with Glass Wool which soaks up the fuel therein and reduces enormously the threat of accidental spillage.
Unused fuel? One gets to judge how much is required .. and rather less than more. If I have to refill, ok .. I have time.
Good tip regarding the match. I picked up on this a while back and started doing it .. thanks.
Take care ..
Thanks Thomas! The glass wool trick was interesting. Atb
@@erik_normark 👍
@@erik_normark Rather than glass wool, try carbon fiber felt ... won’t melt at as low temp,, and wicks the fuel very nicely. Available at welders’ supply stores and thst large online retailer.
What do you mean about the wool? Can you use the stove with the wool inside? I don't understand what you mean. Thx.
@@ryand141 I have used my Trangia, filled with Glass Wool and then topped with a strip of tightly-rolled Carbon Cloth to keep everything in place for a while now and will never go back.
Very much reduced risk of spillage in case of a knock over. Stove lights up easier in below-freezing temperatures. The pot can be put onto the stand immediately thereafter without having to wait for the 'bloom' .. the still cold stove will not 'snuff' out. Stove performance .. to the eye .. does not appear to be affected so as to be of concern.
Try it.
Alcohol stoves are lightweight (specially DIY ones) and silent. True. I have not used my Trangia for some years now. Every time when I pack up for a hike, I decide to take my lightweight canister stove (BRS+100g canister) or go stoveless in warm weather conditions. Canister stove setup is easy, cheap (when you refill canister), lighweight and convenient to use +safer to handle as liquid alkohol stoves. I keep my Trangia cook set only for canoe trips in scandinavia, where weight dont matters. Great video Erik!
I agree - a Swedish product that works absolutely reliably, like many others from Swedes such as Hilleberg, Lundhags, Klättermusen or Fjällräven.
Can't forget about the roll x
For me I will always prefer the alcohol stove. I love the silence. There's no stress in nature. You make coffee or cook food to wind down, to recharge. What better way to do so than listening to nature undisturbed by the stove? I haven't been out for long hikes, usually just one to three nights, I never felt the need for a gas stove. :) I have the smaller 33cl fuel bottle from Trangia. I think it's much better in size for smaller excursions. :)
A heavenly moment! Stay safe Erik.
It's winter here. First rain of winter came today. And watching your videos while in blanket is the best way to cherish the cold weather.
Simple and reliable nothing else matters out there. Time is a manmade concept thats falls apart when you are outdoors...so it never counts. All the best from germany! May the old gods always be with you.
Two devices that the new ones can’t beat are the Trangia burner and the German military mess kit. Both have the same two features: simplicity and reliability. When conditions are bad, their value becomes clear.
It is always wonderful to hear your gear philosophy... I use trangia myself and for sometimes, shifted to a mini alcohal stove ( cat can type), that not only has a pot stand but also small enough to fit inside Toaks 500 ml mug, along with wind shield, gas lighter, coffee sachets and mini fuel bottle... Works for me for short hikes....
Your kettle is as cool as your alcohol stove.👍🏻 Good luck Erik~
You sir, are a most interesting camper. (American slang for eclectic person) and as a fellow interesting camper I love your videos. I use alcohol stoves when we have a power outage to make coffee ☕ same hobo style as you. I just made my alcohol stove from a discarded beer can using an ice pick. Works exactly like this. Amazing videos sir, thanks for the time involved in videoing (?) and editing and the solitude of the woods!
I FELT LIKE I WAS RIGHT THERE CHILLING OUT. YOU HAVE A VERY CALMING EFFECT.
I wish I could sloooow down like you Erik. Love your channel. Calming and thank you.
Lovely peaceful place for your cup of coffee. I also never put myself into a position of being rushed when out in nature. I enjoy every minute with much appreciation. Thanks for the info on your stove.
The magic touch is always there. Thank you Erik.
I mainly use alcohol stoves for same reasons. I use gas a little bit but have also just started using trangia gel burner which is also very good and easy to carry gel blocks in kettle and anywhere you can fit them. 👍
Does everyone else return the thumbs up on all the videos? Not just me I expect.
yup and normally have my coffee too...after all we have to increase Erik's shares in his coffee plantation 🤣☕🤙
Yes, absolutely! And if he doesn't do it like in some of his earlier videos i'm waiting with baited breath and so disappointed when it doesn't come!
Happiness is in simple things ... Thank you
The Trangia stove and kit are my go to kit..light , clean burning and easy to find fuel. I have a white gas stove as well, but it is noisy and somewhat heavy. Great videos. Cheers from Nova Scotia. M.
I did not expect such a poetic little film, beautiful work!
Simple is good. I use my alcohol stove when I car camp, especially if its too cold to use a propane stove. Also, I don't have to worry about storing the fuel, unlike a gas stove. I've also used it in my house when the power went out after a storm, I just use it in one of my iron frying pans on the stove (to contain any spills).
What a perfect review and video! Erik "gets it".
I'm always more than just a little amused by all the stove reviews that run stop watches against stove systems and declare "winners" over a 9 second difference in boil times. I've always said "If you're sitting down in the back country and using a stop watch....you're doing it wrong."
Trangia: Light. Compact. Affordable. Silent. No moving parts to fiddle with or fail. Utterly reliable. Acceptably efficient. Fuel is ubiquitous. A billion after market accessory options. A category copied by many but improved upon by none.
The last 50 years it's been alcohol stoves or wood burning stoves for me. I have used white gas stoves and they break or leak. Propane stoves the valves can get stuck ( leak ) and you are out of gas. Both of them are loud & sound like Jets. MSR calls one Whisper light and it does not whisper.
For my personal use it's alcohol or wood. For the most part it's been the Tangias. I have used them on trips over 3 weeks long. In the last few years for alcohol I switched over to the Evernew Titanium Appalachian set. Everything is in a kit with a combined weight of less then 6 ounces. ( 5.7 actually )
For wood it's the Firebox titanium Nano Gen 2 ( 4 ounces ).
Both [ Evernew & Firebox ] when combined have a weight of 10 ounces. Only way to describe them , light and Reliable. In the past I have never been in a hurry when camping and now that I'm 76 and a heart patient (One of many reasons for me being a Ultralight camper ) I finally have a excuse to take it slow and easy.
I usually use canister stoves, but fuel has been hard to come by here in Canada due to COVID. So this year I started trying out a homemade alcohol stove, using a design I'm actually satisfied with. My friends are usually impressed with the resourcefulness and the ingenuity of such a simple stove.
Thanks Erik again for high-quality content! Very relaxing and well-managed without any hurry. Greetings from Finland
The quiet, 100% agree. The scene here wouldn't be nearly as enjoyable with a pressurized gas stove roaring back at the birds.
Always a pleasure to watch and listen.
What a beautiful spot. Really like my alcohol stoves too. Thanks for the video. Take care and stay safe, Al
Indeed, the last few years the trangia has been my go to stove. Simple light silent cheap easy.. Only that leaking. I just found out the leaking was not the lid but the edge where it is seamed together . Very annoying. The advantage was to carry the fuel inside. One filling will do for a night over. Now I'm looking at the white box stove. It is even more simple..
Cheers, have a nice winter
Simple is beauty! Thanks!
@@erik_normark pity that tinny from 'minibulldesigns' has retired. I really wanted his 'gnome' stove..
..we'll have to make it ourselves.
I love my Trangia burners - please note the "s!" Yes, I have several of them and use them regularly for all the reasons you mentioned, especially the silence. thanks for your lovely video...love the ravens with you...ATB
Until the mid 1990's we only have to choose between the Trangia alcohol stove and the Optimus 111 kerosone burner. I prefered Trangia because of it's weight. When Trangia intoduced their gasstove I feel it was a great progress and I put away the alcohol stove. Today I most of the time use the MSR Windpro 2 stove throughout the year. The option of burning gas liquid and the wintergas make this stove very versatile.
The Trangia triangle is right now out of stock everywhere. It will be back on the market in the year 2021 a bit modified. Today you also have different types of alcohol mixtures you can use in your Trangia stove.
It will be interesting to see what the new triangle looks like!
It’s now January 2022 and the Triangle is still out of stock, I’m not sure what Trangia are doing but I hope they get it back on the market soon. I used to own a Triangle but sold it to a friend and always regretted that. I currently use a Firebox Titanium Nano Gen 2 with Trangia spirit burner, but I’ll probably switch back to the Triangle if I can get another one - they’re simpler and a little more stable.
I always use my Trangia alcohol stove when I don’t make a fire. The simplicity and quiet operation is paramount to me. When I’m in the woods I’m in no rush...
This mate reviews a Trangia stove as he's acting in a dramatic/survival movie. Long pauses, deep voice, the looks, the raven passing by. I want a movie out of it and with him :) Thanks Mr Erik, I enjoyed the video a lot :)
Thanks Erik.
I've used probably every kind of stove but if I had to choose a favourite it would be one that uses the Trangia burner for all the reasons you give. I find only the very occasional one is not fuel-tight, so I keep the good ones and get rid of any that leak. Efficiency is a concept we don't need to worry about so much in the woods. A 1 litre Trangia bottle will last for a long time.
Noel
I took an alcohol stove a gas stove and had a campfire. I found the gas to be quickest the fire to be dangerous and the alcohol to be the longest and most annoying, but also the only guaranteed way in almost any weather to cook food. I preferred the alcohol. 👍
Awesome as always!!!! Love it. Stay safe and well, Eric.
A great conversation on alcohol stoves and use. Ravens are always looking and talking. I just passed on a Sigg cooker set from the 1960s that was made to work with an alcohol burner like the Trangia. I may look it back up.
Trangia stove is the best stove ever. From minimalist triangle or 28 mini to a 25 with gas for family car camping, or 27 with a Nova multifuel burner for expedition. I use them all, the simple and silent alcohol burner, as you say silent and no rush.
Maybe try the BioEthanol Gel burner for even more lightweight and environmentally friendly
So chilled, so calm and very much at peace with himself and the world. Great stuff! An example for us all to live longer. Thank you Erik. :)
I use alcohol for all my hikes, usually ½ a liter for 5-7days, burning morning and evening. I have a smaller titanium stove that is just an open container with a burnproof felt inside, and I'm able to keep leftover fuel inside with a lid that actually seals much better than the trangia stoves. My windscreen/pot holder seals around the pot completely, and makes heating water quicker than with a trangia, on average 4-6 mins for 500ml.
That is why I use the same stove and windscreen. Never had to go with out my tea. I also figured where it was made it must be good. It is part of relaxing adding enjoying. Thanks for posting. Be well and Trail on!
I have put away my gas stove and gone with a mini Trangia. I believe the Trangia is better all round environmentally and I will not be going back to the gas. Thank you for your lovely video, so chilled.
I was solo camping in the woods when you posted this and happened to go back to an internet spot the day this was posted. Was pretty cool to see you doing the same kind of thing also.
"i have all the time in the world.." that hits me really nice..
Thanks.
A master at making any content almost meditative 👍🏼 cheers Erik
Again a great video! Nice anorak too!
Thank you for your relaxing video this sundaymorning!
Keep up the good work and stay healthy in the woods! 👍🏻
Healing in nature .. 🌼
Excellent video, nice to see you doing a bit of discussion about gear.
Thanks Kevin, it's a good time of the year for making this type of content.
I see you using this stove but it’s nice to hear the pros and cons and the match trick.
Little demos like this are most welcome especially in the beautiful woods..take care 🇨🇦 🔥
Thanks Sue, glad you like it! :)
Thank you for sharing your thoughts, Erik. I didn't know about the benefits of using a match but will try it for myself. All the best.
I could listen to you all day. I love how the raven was more important than your movie! I just came back from a winter hike with my home made alcohol stove and I agree about simplicity and reliability.
Hiram Cook on TH-cam is the master of alcohol stoves.
Boil times, fuel types, stand types, diy, baking, product reviews and the list goes on.
If you ever wanted to know anything about the subject, he's your man!😁😁
Terrific information. We need to get our Trangia stove back out and use it. We stopped because we cannot find a fuel bottle that does not leak. We will look harder. Thank you.
I have switch mainly to the trangia as well with a home made pot stand/ wind screen for most of my trips when I'm not using fire for the same reasons as you. The low noise level is best out in the woods. I will use the white gas if the trip is designed to where I just need to cook/hot water fast and efficiently but I don't like the noise or the leftover empty canisters.
Nate
Erik- Thank you for explaining. That is very helpful. I appreciated your comment about how this type of stove is quiet. -Carl
I use the Trangia triangle most of the time on day hikes. Gas burner for longer trips.
I use a stick stove much of the time, but I also carry a small alcohol stove that fits inside for longer trips, as a back up on rainy days. Sometimes on day trips I'll bring the alcohol instead of the stick one because it's so light and easy.
Except when there are fire bans in the woods of course. Then it's alcohol or gas stove.
Possibly the most calming review I have seen. Makes me want to try one.
Tack för alla fina videos, älskar dem. Får mig alltid så lugn!
A great vídeo Erik. I am also a big fan of the alcohol stove. It’s my go-to stove and I agree it’s much better for the environment. Thanks and take care. Ben
I´m using either twig stove or gas. If a campfire is not an option. Maybe some day I should try an alcohol stove too. Thanks for the video and greetings from Finland!
I think the best part is the smell. Lovely!
This Man 👨 is Just outstanding 👏 👌 he give one of the premium videos 📹 of TH-cam
I've been using an alcohol stove (a trangia) for 15 years and I'm very happy with it. Alcohol is cheap, you can put it in any container, it burns cleanly, and you can find it anywhere. The Trangia comes with a regulator cap, and you can use that to extinguish the flame before you put on the screw cap, which for me has always held without leaks, so no waste. When it's really frigid, you might need to put the alcohol and/or the stove in your pocket for a while to get the temperature up a bit before lighting it.
Brilliant again Erik - look forward to the next one.
The simmer ring that is supplied with the burner is used to extinguish the flame when you have finished cooking. You can also use it to moderate the flame to 50% or 25% when cooking. There's no need to let the burner run out of fuel when it's finished.
Wonderfully slow and informative video/talk/review
Nice presentation Erik!
Short and sweet, perfect.
I do a lot of stealth camping and alcohol stoves are nice and quiet...no hissing sounds like the butane stoves which could give your position away. I like the military folding stove and either a Fancy Feast can or a larger Friskies can. No alterations or mods, just pour the fuel in the container and light it with either a match or a Crocs lighter, one with the extended nozzle. An 8 ounce Vargo bottle of alcohol or HEET will last me an entire two days of camping. On long hikes and backpacking trips I do prefer the BSR and canister stove for the quickness. I love your videos...enjoyable and informative.
as usual, seems to be a very strong coffee - enjoy the the coffee and the time you dedicated for !
Thank you for the video. I also enjoy using alcohol stoves. I have several different types. I also enjoy building them from time to time.
I made comparison gas vs alcohol. 1/2 litre tap water to boiling. Trangia 27 set and gas burner with high foltable windshield. Gas burned 8 gram and trangia 15 gram. When bottles weights count, in trip can take more alcohol. When with gas can boil 29 times, with alcohol 22 times (24 % less), same amount of water.
I use a fancee feast alcohol stove with welder’s felt as the wick. I store my fuel in a old cough syrup bottle that fits inside the stove. The bottle is thicker plastic with a safety cap. Weighs just a few ounces, and costs very little money to make the whole setup. Many thanks to you Eric from the USA!
Looks like a beautiful place for a hike
Regarding the Trangia alcohol burner leaking dispute the o-ring, Firebox sells a soldered version for a few more dollars that reliably solves the problem...
Thanks for the cold weather lighting tip. I'll give it a try next time I'm out in cold weather. Love my Trangia stoves for the quiet and simplicity of design. I built a few Fancee Feest stoves some using woven fiberglass and some with carbon fiber felt. Their lighter than the Trangia and have a built in pot stand.
You can warm it by body heat.
Hope you’re well Erik my friend? Love the camera work and use of focus. Winter is definitely upon us now!
Nothing compares to a Trangia, I actually find myself using mine (I have a really old model Trangia 27 that had the thicker metal and without cut out for the gas burner) more than my MSR pocket rocket gas stove these days. Too noisy, literally pocket rocket by name and nature it’s like a jet engine! I never find it gives the same sense of calm and satisfaction as using the Trangia. I use BioEthanol in mine now, much cleaner burn than Meths and no taste. Boils water about a minute or so slower than the MSR so alcohol is not as slow as people think!
Look after yourself Erik. All the best.
Thank you for this, Erik 👍 I use alcohol, gas and kerosene depending on the temperature and situation. Definitely like the alcohol one for exactly the reasons you mentioned 😊 Have a nice Sunday 😃
Very nice. The first ice gives it a nice touch. I hope I don‘t have to wait much longer for it to build here in Switzerland. Greetings