Ok, I finally got the Puma Deviate Nitro Elite 3, here are my thoughts. It should be known; the Deviate Nitro Elite 2 was my first super shoe (plated). and it was the best running shoes I have ever owned, the bounce, the softness of the foam, the fit, it was everything I wanted in a running shoe, baring a little more foam and a little longer lase. Since then, I have purchased the Nike next %3 (that was returned because they were two different shoes, on kept slipping and I needed a month for my ankle to recover). and Asics Meta Speed Edge, an all-around fantastic running shoes, just a little narrow. (love it) Now to the Deviate nitro elite 3, the bounce is back, with more foam and a little longer lace (perfect for the runner's knot), I do remember the elite v2's bounce was gone just around the 300-mile mark. The foam in these shoes is nothing like Nikes, Nikes is simply too soft and not very reactive, it requires the plate to propel you forward which means you must run very fast all the time to truly experience it. The foam on Elite v3 is more like foam rubber (if you have seen the 1962 move "boys' night out" you will understand LOL), you can run at a slower pace and feel it, my heart really likes those shoes, (lower heartbeat and I am movie faster?) but now that I have experience the Nike and the Asics foam, I can say the foam on the elite v2 and v3 wants to bounce you forward and I can feel the end of the squash, but the bounce makes up for it, but I can always feel it (perhaps it's the plate I am feeling). it will be between the Deviate Nitro elite v3 and the Meta speed edge for the Berlin marathon for me (not true) it will be the elite v3, I don't trust my legs and the narrowness for the meta speed edge after 20 miles at marathon pace.
It sound's like Puma have nerfed the Deviate? So I may look elsewhere in the futute! I picked up the DN2 recently in the sales and they're great. They feel like a stiffer version of the VN2, and I feel like it's easier to go faster. I'll keep the VN2 for slower runs now. Does the Saucony have good heel lock?
Boston 12 ftw, ran 30km in them today. Was such an enjoyable but hard run in 2:29. I guess i will take them over marathon distance. My pair has taken already 420km but still feels awesome and i am a heavy runner with 182 lbs
Boston unfortunately didn't work for me at all, and I really tried to like it. Honestly, it feels very similar to pro 3 but much worst version of pro 3 which I do not see the point apart of price of course - pro 3 does everything way better than Boston does - each time I put it on mid run had regrets why I haven't strapped something else 😂
After the Continental rubber and Puma grip I would put Mizuno in third place with its X10 and G3 rubber compound. Asics is also getting better grip on their shoes. I got impressed so far with the shoes I got from then : Magic Speed 3, Gel-Nimbus 26 and Gel-Cumulus 26. The Nova Blast 4 rubber seems do far very durable, but the grip is much better in the Gel-Cumulus 26 , even on wet ground !
@@JGM0408 I think the extra foam is nice and the extra rocker. The DN2 was a nice shoe but didn’t agree with me too much. I personally like the upgrades but can see why people might not
I may have missed a Yay or Nay episode, but is there any chance of reviewing the Magic Speed 4 and the Brooks Hyperion Max 2? I find the DN3 firmer and stiffer than the DN2 although the DN3 has a more pronounced rocker. I’ve only done a single 20 km run, but I see the DN3 as a long run shoe, marathon pace (max) shoe whereas the DN2 is more versatile. Out of the box, the DN2 felt bouncier and faster and I almost sent the DN3 back. The Velocity 3 needed a break in period (about 30 km) unlike versions 1 and 2 of that shoe, so I’ll see if the DN3 is the same.
@@EDDBUD That’s a bit rough. It was just out of interest, anyway. The Brooks is $300 in Australia and for a few extra dollars you can get the Superblast 2, the Saucony Endorphin Pro 4 or the DNE3. The DN3 is $250.
I’ve seen a few reviews of the Deavite Nitro 3 now and there doesn’t seem to be any major (if any at all) updates from the Deviate Nitro 2? I have the DN2 and thinking of just picking up another pair rather than upgrade to DN3
I've got the Saucony London 10k tomorrow. Just got some ASICS Superblast 2s (first short run in them this morning), but don't know whether to plump for those over the tried and treated Adidas Boston 12. Which do you think will be faster?
I have the DN3 Elite, and while I had heel rubbing at first, I heel locked them and my word they’re incredible I’m gonna skip the regular DN3 as I’ve heard very mixed reviews about them, and I already have the DN2’s which I think are great
Went for a 15km long run with the DN3. Definitely not enough cushioning and they felt very stiff. My knees have been killing me since. Great for tempo and workouts though but would pick something with more soft cushioning for long runs.
It's amazing how a can always find a video of the theme that i'm searching for on your channel. I need shoes for my speed workouts, fartlek, tempo, intervals etc... I was thinking between Adidas Boston 12 and Saucony Speed 4, never thought about Puma. what do you think? Thanks.
I've ordered Endorphin Speed 4 without even trying it lol🙂 I couldn't find it in physical stores but found it on sale online. I hope I won't be disappointed.
Dn2 its good shoe but that narrow fit ruin it for me, puma seems to continue with narrow fits along with velocity and dn3 that plus some reviews arent that favourable to what puma done to dn3 makes it very easy pass for me
Saucony must improve the following on the fifth version of Endorphin Speed: 1. Insoles: The insoles of these shoes are not soft and not comfortable to use. They lack snap, which also affects the performance of runners using these shoes 2. Midsole: I understand the Power Run PB softens the entire ride; however, it lacks energy return or a snappy feeling. The midsole is slightly firm because of the position of the nylon plate I hope they could somehow adapt the technology on Asics Superblast particularly improving the midsole and outsole of ES5. else I might pickup 4 pairs of Asics Superblast 2, 1 pair novablast 5 and 1 pair adidas takumi sen 11
No contest, Speed 4 all day. Fit and lockdown is great and best outsole from the series so far. Midsole feels fast, snappy, stable and great for workouts and Long runs. I thought I was going to hate that Saucony made the platform wider but it's growing on me every run actually. Not a fair comparison to DN3 but Speed 4 miles better in every way.
Ed, would you be so kind as to reveal your foot length to us mere mortals? (As you may be seen as somewhat of a 'shoe-guru' I am interested in how you size your shoes relative to length of foot.)
I’m returning my DN3 and getting the Speed 4. I found them to be disappointing. They did not feel like an upgrade to DN2. They felt heavy a bit clunky and certainly not faster.
J'aime les nitro, bien que je préfère la 1ere version. J'adore la semelle extérieure Puma, très adhérente et solide. Les Boston sont très inconfortables pour moi et volumineuses. Les endorphin sont des bombes, mais la 4 est hors de prix. J'ai la 3 que je me réserve précieusement quand mes autres carbones seront usées. Elle est un poil plus rapide que les Pumas Fast R nitro
Hobby Jogger here. I really liked the Deviate Nitro 2. However, I recently got the Adizero SL2 and, for my needs, it's a nearly perfect do everything shoe.
If England do win, which I'm very much on the fence at the minute I think it'll be close. If they do win, will listening to Three Lions be a little like after a certain someone became a millionaire at Christmas of 96? ...This time in 2 years 😂
😂 I love your shoe knowledge, but assuming England has a chance against Spain 😊 I mean England wouldn't even have won against Holland if there wasn't a corrupt kraut involved, and the Netherlands wouldn't have had a chance against Spain either.
New favorite youtube channel. Keep smashing it!
many thanks!
Ok, I finally got the Puma Deviate Nitro Elite 3, here are my thoughts.
It should be known; the Deviate Nitro Elite 2 was my first super shoe (plated). and it was the best running shoes I have ever owned, the bounce, the softness of the foam, the fit, it was everything I wanted in a running shoe, baring a little more foam and a little longer lase.
Since then, I have purchased the Nike next %3 (that was returned because they were two different shoes, on kept slipping and I needed a month for my ankle to recover).
and Asics Meta Speed Edge, an all-around fantastic running shoes, just a little narrow. (love it)
Now to the Deviate nitro elite 3, the bounce is back, with more foam and a little longer lace (perfect for the runner's knot), I do remember the elite v2's bounce was gone just around the 300-mile mark. The foam in these shoes is nothing like Nikes, Nikes is simply too soft and not very reactive, it requires the plate to propel you forward which means you must run very fast all the time to truly experience it.
The foam on Elite v3 is more like foam rubber (if you have seen the 1962 move "boys' night out" you will understand LOL), you can run at a slower pace and feel it, my heart really likes those shoes, (lower heartbeat and I am movie faster?)
but now that I have experience the Nike and the Asics foam, I can say the foam on the elite v2 and v3 wants to bounce you forward and I can feel the end of the squash, but the bounce makes up for it, but I can always feel it (perhaps it's the plate I am feeling).
it will be between the Deviate Nitro elite v3 and the Meta speed edge for the Berlin marathon for me (not true) it will be the elite v3, I don't trust my legs and the narrowness for the meta speed edge after 20 miles at marathon pace.
Love both of those. They are next level stuff
It sound's like Puma have nerfed the Deviate? So I may look elsewhere in the futute!
I picked up the DN2 recently in the sales and they're great. They feel like a stiffer version of the VN2, and I feel like it's easier to go faster. I'll keep the VN2 for slower runs now.
Does the Saucony have good heel lock?
Boston 12 ftw, ran 30km in them today. Was such an enjoyable but hard run in 2:29. I guess i will take them over marathon distance. My pair has taken already 420km but still feels awesome and i am a heavy runner with 182 lbs
That Boston is a total banger. Amazing shoe for the money
Boston unfortunately didn't work for me at all, and I really tried to like it. Honestly, it feels very similar to pro 3 but much worst version of pro 3 which I do not see the point apart of price of course - pro 3 does everything way better than Boston does - each time I put it on mid run had regrets why I haven't strapped something else 😂
About time! 😃
Got there in the end! Work has been manic
@@EDDBUD same
After the Continental rubber and Puma grip I would put Mizuno in third place with its X10 and G3 rubber compound.
Asics is also getting better grip on their shoes. I got impressed so far with the shoes I got from then : Magic Speed 3, Gel-Nimbus 26 and Gel-Cumulus 26. The Nova Blast 4 rubber seems do far very durable, but the grip is much better in the Gel-Cumulus 26 , even on wet ground !
Quite interested in a PDN3 vs Brooks Hyperion Max 2......think they are pretty close comparison.
Heads up- Nike Zoomfly 5 (sizes 4-8) in black is currently £46 on Pro Direct.
Dankeschön 😀🙏 I hope your team will win tomorrow 💪💪
Hope we put on a good show too!
@@EDDBUDFor sure 👌🏼
Already great knowledge and explanations. Goto shoe advice as always
Man that puma looks like a very warm shoe.
It’s quite thick now
Deviate Nitro 3 on sale just $112 via Puma US, 30% off.
Speed 4 (along with Pro 4) best looking running shoes in history.
I love running in my speed 3s, maybe it’s time to upgrade to the speed 4.
I’m loving the DN3, more than the 2
What would you say is the upgrades from the DN2? I have the DN2 and love them
@@JGM0408 I think the extra foam is nice and the extra rocker. The DN2 was a nice shoe but didn’t agree with me too much. I personally like the upgrades but can see why people might not
DN3 on sale in US for $112
I may have missed a Yay or Nay episode, but is there any chance of reviewing the Magic Speed 4 and the Brooks Hyperion Max 2?
I find the DN3 firmer and stiffer than the DN2 although the DN3 has a more pronounced rocker. I’ve only done a single 20 km run, but I see the DN3 as a long run shoe, marathon pace (max) shoe whereas the DN2 is more versatile. Out of the box, the DN2 felt bouncier and faster and I almost sent the DN3 back. The Velocity 3 needed a break in period (about 30 km) unlike versions 1 and 2 of that shoe, so I’ll see if the DN3 is the same.
Was working with brooks but they don’t seem to want to send me anything anymore. 😭
@@EDDBUD That’s a bit rough. It was just out of interest, anyway. The Brooks is $300 in Australia and for a few extra dollars you can get the Superblast 2, the Saucony Endorphin Pro 4 or the DNE3. The DN3 is $250.
I’ve seen a few reviews of the Deavite Nitro 3 now and there doesn’t seem to be any major (if any at all) updates from the Deviate Nitro 2? I have the DN2 and thinking of just picking up another pair rather than upgrade to DN3
It’s very close. If you like the v2 keep on hammering those
It's coming home!
It’s going to be a nail biter.
My body weight is around 125lbs. Speed 4 took me around 200km to break in.
BTW would love to see your comments on hyperion 2 and hyperion max 2 👍
I've got the Saucony London 10k tomorrow. Just got some ASICS Superblast 2s (first short run in them this morning), but don't know whether to plump for those over the tried and treated Adidas Boston 12. Which do you think will be faster?
Both are more hefty in my size. Perhaps the Superblast?
Any chance of a comparison between the Asics Metaspeed Edge & Sky + ?😊
Hoping to have the edge next week, and the shoes. 🤣👍🏼
Sweet!
I have the DN3 Elite, and while I had heel rubbing at first, I heel locked them and my word they’re incredible
I’m gonna skip the regular DN3 as I’ve heard very mixed reviews about them, and I already have the DN2’s which I think are great
The elites are insanely good. Best Puma yet
Went for a 15km long run with the DN3. Definitely not enough cushioning and they felt very stiff. My knees have been killing me since. Great for tempo and workouts though but would pick something with more soft cushioning for long runs.
great comparison. PUMA FTW
Thanks for tuning in
It's amazing how a can always find a video of the theme that i'm searching for on your channel.
I need shoes for my speed workouts, fartlek, tempo, intervals etc... I was thinking between Adidas Boston 12 and Saucony Speed 4, never thought about Puma. what do you think?
Thanks.
@@RuiRosca the Boston has a certain vibe I loved. Also a great price and durability
@@EDDBUD thanks again 😁
Thanks for the review
I've ordered Endorphin Speed 4 without even trying it lol🙂 I couldn't find it in physical stores but found it on sale online. I hope I won't be disappointed.
Helpful video. Here is my Like. A nice weekend for everyone.
Went down for testing the DN3, found a new pair of Speed 2 🎉😅
Knocking out 16+ hilly milers weekly in my Saucony Axon 3. Much prefer them to my DN2.
I'm curious what you think of the UA Velociti Elite 2.
Trying to get a pair from UA.
Waiting on the saucony endorphin elite 2 review
No sign of a pair at the mo 😭
Dn2 its good shoe but that narrow fit ruin it for me, puma seems to continue with narrow fits along with velocity and dn3 that plus some reviews arent that favourable to what puma done to dn3 makes it very easy pass for me
Edd, between the Deviate Nitro 2 and 3, which one do you prefer?
There’s little in it. Outsole better on the v2. Slightly lighter. But love the tongue and looks of the v3.
@@EDDBUDcan you notice any difference in the drop from v2 stated at 6mm to the v3 10mm
@@ADyess086 it’s no different. My measurements show the v3 is the same as the v2.
Did you snatch a pair of the endorohin elite 2?
@@Eirikkinserdal not didn’t get lucky
Saucony must improve the following on the fifth version of Endorphin Speed:
1. Insoles: The insoles of these shoes are not soft and not comfortable to use. They lack snap, which also affects the performance of runners using these shoes
2. Midsole: I understand the Power Run PB softens the entire ride; however, it lacks energy return or a snappy feeling. The midsole is slightly firm because of the position of the nylon plate
I hope they could somehow adapt the technology on Asics Superblast particularly improving the midsole and outsole of ES5. else I might pickup 4 pairs of Asics Superblast 2, 1 pair novablast 5 and 1 pair adidas takumi sen 11
No contest, Speed 4 all day. Fit and lockdown is great and best outsole from the series so far. Midsole feels fast, snappy, stable and great for workouts and Long runs. I thought I was going to hate that Saucony made the platform wider but it's growing on me every run actually. Not a fair comparison to DN3 but Speed 4 miles better in every way.
Interesting there’s a composite carbon plate in the DN3 and a nylon one in the speed. Yet it’s seen as by far the better shoe
And the winner is? Magic speed 4 😊
Ed, would you be so kind as to reveal your foot length to us mere mortals? (As you may be seen as somewhat of a 'shoe-guru' I am interested in how you size your shoes relative to length of foot.)
I recall 28.5 cm.
@@EDDBUD Thanks! As a 283mm man myself, this info is much appreciated 😁
Canada 🇨🇦 sends England 🏴 all the best and victory tomorrow! ⚽️❤️
Much appreciated sir!
I’m returning my DN3 and getting the Speed 4. I found them to be disappointing. They did not feel like an upgrade to DN2. They felt heavy a bit clunky and certainly not faster.
Yeah it’s the same shoe almost with a new more chunky upper. There’s now more of a difference between the standard and elite
@@EDDBUD yes i think they are protecting the elite’s sales.
J'aime les nitro, bien que je préfère la 1ere version. J'adore la semelle extérieure Puma, très adhérente et solide. Les Boston sont très inconfortables pour moi et volumineuses. Les endorphin sont des bombes, mais la 4 est hors de prix. J'ai la 3 que je me réserve précieusement quand mes autres carbones seront usées. Elle est un poil plus rapide que les Pumas Fast R nitro
Agree 100%. The grip is quite exceptional on the Puma.
Boston 12 although it's a great shoe, is quite lose fit and for some reason has given me knee problems
Got a good fit but I can see some might struggle with the lace loops
@EDDBUD it's a great shoe don't get me wrong but unfortunately haven novablasts 4s it's hard for anything else to compete
Reviewers don't seem to like DN3.
It’s breaking in a bit and starting to feel better
Hobby Jogger here. I really liked the Deviate Nitro 2. However, I recently got the Adizero SL2 and, for my needs, it's a nearly perfect do everything shoe.
The sl2 is quite the shoe. Amazing for the price
Love the stato ref
If England do win, which I'm very much on the fence at the minute I think it'll be close. If they do win, will listening to Three Lions be a little like after a certain someone became a millionaire at Christmas of 96? ...This time in 2 years 😂
It’s going to be close. It’s right down the middle. 70 / 30.
Statto!
Spain are a bit good. 😬
Love Statto!
For daily casual run. Adizero SL2 or Boston 12? Which is better? Dankeschon.
Sl2 is easily enough
@@EDDBUD okay. Thanks for the response. Have a good day.
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😂 I love your shoe knowledge, but assuming England has a chance against Spain 😊 I mean England wouldn't even have won against Holland if there wasn't a corrupt kraut involved, and the Netherlands wouldn't have had a chance against Spain either.
Football is a funny old game. I come from Yeovil. The famous giant killers. In a one of game anything can happen.
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What would you say is a good shoe that is durable enough for weeks of long runs but also can handle the marathon itself?
Yes I don’t see why not 👍🏼
Puma 30% off right now
DV3 is more narrow than
DV2？
About the same. Not much in it
@@EDDBUD THANKS!
I'm rooting for England, mainly because Spain knocked us out
Late goal from them too!
If England lose on penalties it’s going to be so Spainful 😳
@@csalt5235I shan’t look if that’s the case. Just like Toney.
World in motion is cheesier and better 🙃
Love the Barnes rap!
DN3 is a Nerf from DN2
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Much appreciated
Those lace loops are horrible!