Yeh, third fastest ever. Bolt's 200 record is more under threat from him than his 100. Don't think he'll get either tho! But he's impved his 60m time and he holds his form incredibly well, so the 200 is possible
Yeah I always said that Bolt's 19.19 was more impressive than his 9.58s. 9.58 isn't even close to being beaten. 19.19, I'm not even sure how many generations it will take to have someone dropping a better time than that.
@@MrSuperOurs 9.58 will stand longer for sure. In both races the second fastest time is ~0.1 seconds off. 0.1 seconds is a larger percentage improvement in a 100m race than a 200m race.
Agreed. Though admittedly, back then, his 9.86 was his most impressive race. Absolutely running down the eventual 100m world champion and being the only guy to hand coleman a loss in 2019, his last 50 was insane.
I mean he doesn't lack it, he's still running among the best times in the world on 100m. He just has a better top end speed, and doesn't decelerate as much as the others.
@@MrSuperOurs Relative to Coleman, for example, he lacks it. If he had the same scale of quad force over his first 5 steps he’d be running 9.4something instead of 9.8something. But that’s the genetic lottery (speaking as someone hamstring dominant who was crap out of the blocks 😁).
@@scarlettparker7056Coleman is the greatest ever though. He’s ran the most sub-6.4 60m splits and has the 60m world record. No one starts like Coleman.
Please do Blaine Mcconnel, bobsledder with insane strength and oly lifting numbers. Also has lots of plyo work in his training would love to hear you lads review his training
Damn this guy has sticks as limbs and lifts those numbers. Impressive guy. Not that he wasn't muscular, but it's so normal to expect that a person of some experience in lifting is already looking rather muscular. But when you have a runner, they are just tight as heck.
He’s obviously one of the modem greats in T&F. 19.3 is of course no joke, and is right around where Bolt, Blake and Michael Johnson were at their prime. Like his energy and enthusiasm as well! Coleman could be at the same level, but he hasn’t shown us truly stunning times relative to Noah
Would love to see a breakdown on these power cleans (from an S&C perspective too) th-cam.com/users/shorts8oz-fHq8GkQ NFL player with similar build, similar clean to Noah's 2nd 120 (but a 143 triple) Shame he doesn't wear lifting shoes though
His 200m is way way better, an American record and top 3 ever. He's actually never been considered a medal contending 100m sprinter(Quite many Sprinters run sub 10, a bunch did at ncaa finals this year). Since y'all don't seem to know much about sprinting it doesn't surprise me that you think, that this weight training is great. His strength coach is originally a CrossFit coach and his training in the weight room is way to general. People in the 60s trained better. Bompa, Verkhoshansky, Bondarchuck, Yessis ,Kraaijenhof and everyone else that had significant impact on Track/Field training will tell you this. The only reason why this type of training is still prevalent is because people in the US for some reason hire coaches with a powerlifting or some other strength sport background, that do their type of training with the athlete instead of the training that is needed. Most greats in athletics never had an "S&C" coach, they all had an actual athletics coach that oversaw all aspects of the training. One of the Coaches on his team who consulted me once, told me that they use the Olympic lifts primarily to develop proper sprinting posture.... doesn't make any sense tbh. Whatever.....
Agreed except that he’s not doing a ton of strenuous lifting and he’s not a compression/force dominant sprinter. I’d be really concerned if he was doing a bunch of heavy neurologically taxing lifts, that would almost certainly have negative transfer for someone like Noah
@@CollarToCollar where did I say that they don't do strength training? Strength training is not limited to cleans sand snatches..... that's the whole point , he doesn't do any special strength exercises, everything he does is GPP. Look up "dynamic correspondence" and educate yourself a bit, before you start using emojis like a 14 year old girl from cali. I can smell the estrogen through the screen.
@@choanlpoto things like step ups, knee drives(hip flexor strengthening exercises), Seated calf raises for the push off , reverse hyper extensions or paw backs for the strike down for example. Oly lifts don`t transfer past the intermediate stage, because they don`t work the required joint actions. Su Bingtians training compilation on YT shows great examples of exercises like this.
you miss out on recruiting the glute musculature important for acceleration out of the blocks by doing half squats but hey that's no big issue! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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19.31 200 meters is more impressive than 9.86 100 meters
9.83*
@LiamFitness_11 time of video's release it was 9.86. The point still stands either way tho, 19.31 is WAY more impressive than 9.83
Its more impressive than 9.70 i would say
@@books1074world athletics gives a higher score to 19.31 than 9.69 so your right
Yeh, third fastest ever. Bolt's 200 record is more under threat from him than his 100.
Don't think he'll get either tho! But he's impved his 60m time and he holds his form incredibly well, so the 200 is possible
Mikaela Shiffrin, probably the best alpine ski racer ever. Alpine ski racers are famous for Strange training methods. Thanks and cheers you guys rock
Surely phishing for 'ackchyually's', that 19.31 is 3rd all time in the 200! The 9.86 is 24th - though I wager he breaks that this year.
19.31 makes him the 3rd fastest man ever. 9.86 happens several times a season. In my mind 19.31 is equivalent to low 9.7 in the 100.
i’d have it even higher. 19.31 is equivalent to a 9.6 in my opinion
Yeah I always said that Bolt's 19.19 was more impressive than his 9.58s. 9.58 isn't even close to being beaten. 19.19, I'm not even sure how many generations it will take to have someone dropping a better time than that.
@@MrSuperOurs 9.58 will stand longer for sure. In both races the second fastest time is ~0.1 seconds off. 0.1 seconds is a larger percentage improvement in a 100m race than a 200m race.
Thank you guys, I am a sprint coach and this is really helpful. Appriciate your content ❤.
Love the Track love fellas!!
Love seeing sprinters S&C work.
His 200 is better than his 100. Amazing top speed, lacks the raw power to start well.
Agreed. Though admittedly, back then, his 9.86 was his most impressive race. Absolutely running down the eventual 100m world champion and being the only guy to hand coleman a loss in 2019, his last 50 was insane.
I mean he doesn't lack it, he's still running among the best times in the world on 100m. He just has a better top end speed, and doesn't decelerate as much as the others.
@@MrSuperOurs Relative to Coleman, for example, he lacks it. If he had the same scale of quad force over his first 5 steps he’d be running 9.4something instead of 9.8something. But that’s the genetic lottery (speaking as someone hamstring dominant who was crap out of the blocks 😁).
@@scarlettparker7056Coleman is the greatest ever though. He’s ran the most sub-6.4 60m splits and has the 60m world record. No one starts like Coleman.
@@joalvarado8506Su Bingtian is /was his equal over 30m though.
absolutely love this content
Love this content, would love to see your insights on the latest Man United video on gym work and practice 💪🏼
Please do Blaine Mcconnel, bobsledder with insane strength and oly lifting numbers. Also has lots of plyo work in his training would love to hear you lads review his training
Damn this guy has sticks as limbs and lifts those numbers. Impressive guy. Not that he wasn't muscular, but it's so normal to expect that a person of some experience in lifting is already looking rather muscular. But when you have a runner, they are just tight as heck.
The 19.31 200 is WAY more impressive than a 9.86 100, almost 40 people have run a 9.86 and under. Only 3 have run 19.31
I know I emailed you a long time ago, but take a look at Martin Johnsrud Sundby S&C, now retired but one the top XC skiers a few years back.
I agree with the bands, when i did assisted pullups with machine/bands, it didnt help as much as doing eccentric pullups until i can do one
Artur Beterbiev would be a good watch. His SnC coach is and old polish weightlifter.
He’s obviously one of the modem greats in T&F. 19.3 is of course no joke, and is right around where Bolt, Blake and Michael Johnson were at their prime. Like his energy and enthusiasm as well!
Coleman could be at the same level, but he hasn’t shown us truly stunning times relative to Noah
How much is he deadlifting?
Would love to see a Michael Chandler break down. He has a load of content on youtube
Well, actually, I like a lot his front rack when he cacht those clean. He has really fast elbows ..
kicking the bar : (
Would love to see a breakdown on these power cleans (from an S&C perspective too)
th-cam.com/users/shorts8oz-fHq8GkQ
NFL player with similar build, similar clean to Noah's 2nd 120 (but a 143 triple)
Shame he doesn't wear lifting shoes though
Do Nikola Jokic
Smh Sprinting Requires Dorsiflexion
Why aren't yall talking about the role of PEDs? Yall always touch on this in all your videos
PED discussion police???
His 200m is way way better, an American record and top 3 ever. He's actually never been considered a medal contending 100m sprinter(Quite many Sprinters run sub 10, a bunch did at ncaa finals this year).
Since y'all don't seem to know much about sprinting it doesn't surprise me that you think, that this weight training is great.
His strength coach is originally a CrossFit coach and his training in the weight room is way to general. People in the 60s trained better. Bompa, Verkhoshansky, Bondarchuck, Yessis ,Kraaijenhof and everyone else that had significant impact on Track/Field training will tell you this. The only reason why this type of training is still prevalent is because people in the US for some reason hire coaches with a powerlifting or some other strength sport background, that do their type of training with the athlete instead of the training that is needed. Most greats in athletics never had an "S&C" coach, they all had an actual athletics coach that oversaw all aspects of the training.
One of the Coaches on his team who consulted me once, told me that they use the Olympic lifts primarily to develop proper sprinting posture.... doesn't make any sense tbh. Whatever.....
Agreed except that he’s not doing a ton of strenuous lifting and he’s not a compression/force dominant sprinter. I’d be really concerned if he was doing a bunch of heavy neurologically taxing lifts, that would almost certainly have negative transfer for someone like Noah
You when u realise the people u named also did strength training 😨😨😨
What lift did they do then ? Olympic lifting seems to transfer well to speed
@@CollarToCollar where did I say that they don't do strength training? Strength training is not limited to cleans sand snatches..... that's the whole point , he doesn't do any special strength exercises, everything he does is GPP. Look up "dynamic correspondence" and educate yourself a bit, before you start using emojis like a 14 year old girl from cali. I can smell the estrogen through the screen.
@@choanlpoto things like step ups, knee drives(hip flexor strengthening exercises), Seated calf raises for the push off , reverse hyper extensions or paw backs for the strike down for example. Oly lifts don`t transfer past the intermediate stage, because they don`t work the required joint actions. Su Bingtians training compilation on YT shows great examples of exercises like this.
All that strength training didn’t help in the 200
NOAH NOT NAOH LOL
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you miss out on recruiting the glute musculature important for acceleration out of the blocks by doing half squats but hey that's no big issue! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@matty_richo track cyclist (sprinter) review his S&C, he has massive squats