Lets talk restraints

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  • here are some thoughts on the things that hold you into your favorite rides.

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  • @fieldfilmz
    @fieldfilmz ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Um, coolest office chair ever!

    • @jalenpadilla7744
      @jalenpadilla7744 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes!!!! I am waiting for RRM branded roller coaster seat with “stay off the rails”

  • @Jenlovescoasters
    @Jenlovescoasters 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I love the comedic intro to this one, as well as the perfect delivery of information regarding restraints! I hope your channel takes off!

  • @Coastopia
    @Coastopia ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Bro's using a V2 seat as his office chair. Time to join maintenance

  • @walterandclaude
    @walterandclaude ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Absolutely loving your channel. Would love to hear all the nitty gritty details on maintaining B&Ms. Especially inverted coasters. I love the simplicity of B&M's classic designs. Less room for things to go wrong, and probably easier to maintain as well. Thank you for these videos!

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Glad your enjoying my channel! It’s going to be a challenge to think of some gritty stuff with B&M but I’ll think about that one.

  • @michaeltaylor1603
    @michaeltaylor1603 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Dana Morgan trains often got bashed. During a interview, he said "my job is to keep you in the train" till the end the ride.Well said Mr. Morgan!

  • @hendrixlp1970
    @hendrixlp1970 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Such an awesome channel. I'm so glad that I found it. Thanks!

  • @wizardadam8413
    @wizardadam8413 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    you have great openers, and great content. 10/10 do recommend.

  • @CritterCrossingFam
    @CritterCrossingFam 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    💀 classic intro 😂
    I was checking the current restraints for B&M hyper Diamondback at Kings Island. I must’ve rode it when it didn’t have seatbelts. Apparently, they’ve since installed them, according to (at the time) Cedar Fair, just to lower insurance costs. They installed seatbelts on Orion from the get go, which featured the same style of seat. I think that’s also what’s on Fury 325. I’ll still always feel more comfortable with mechanical redundancy!

  • @DavidPlant1985
    @DavidPlant1985 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    On the B&M flyers, the restraints on the XL seat can't change due to the way the restraints are designed. Instead, B&M just put less foam padding in the seat and this is indicated by it normally being a slightly different colour to the standard seats.

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That’s interesting. So you could move the XL seat just by moving the padding? Do all seats accept the padding style?

    • @DavidPlant1985
      @DavidPlant1985 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ryantheridemechanic On the ride I worked on, the larger seat was on row 4 (out of 7). I assume it is to balance the weight, although like you said, the people dont affect it too much. Heres a little extra bit of info though. During its first month of opening, they didnt balance the weight of the passengers one day and the lifting bar snapped.

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DavidPlant1985 ouch. That’s a stout assembly too.

  • @lancergirl101
    @lancergirl101 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This video helped me a lot. I’m not afraid of coasters and I know they’re really safe. But my intrusive thoughts will pop up at random times (like on the incline of a coaster) and be like “what if the restraint just randomly opened against all odds?” I know that’s highly unlikely but it would still make me a bit nervous while on the ride. But knowing the mechanics behind it all now really helps!

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hope it can put a bit more ease on your next lift

  • @njt002
    @njt002 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Interesting to hear about the safety on B&Ms. They're thrilling, yeah, but they're also so solid and secure, you never feel concerned about your safety like you might on other coasters.

  • @macsignals
    @macsignals ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Can confirm the Gravity Group Timberliners have the dual hydraulic cylinder restraints. They supplied a 20v Dewalt drill base, cord and plug to test the trains in the mornings and for releasing them if the ride was e-stopped on the lift or brakes.

  • @michaezell4607
    @michaezell4607 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Just came across your channel when looking for info on the Fury incident at Carowinds and I'm impressed with your knowledge on the ins and outs of these attractions. Subscription definitely added.

  • @jacobplatt3066
    @jacobplatt3066 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I think it is also important to note that B&M has 4 clicks until the seatbelt latches but those 4 latches are actually twins so 8 individual latches make the seatbelt and 16 latches make a fully closed harness

  • @Jushwa
    @Jushwa หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    lol after binging your channel and watching so many of your videos the past couple days, I was wondering if that chair you were in was off of a coaster! So cool that it is! 👍👍👍 also love your creative and funny intros 🤣

  • @MeiklesAndDimes
    @MeiklesAndDimes ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wow, what a great video. I have always been fascinated by the computerized restraint system on RMC coasters. The alternative checking of each cylinder is genius!

  • @LisebergHelix667
    @LisebergHelix667 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Hey Ryan, have you ever covered restraint minimum closed positions? And how they get checked/verified by park maintenance? How often do they have to get checked? What do you use? Some sort of go/nogo gauge? As someone with big thighs and a big chest I always wonder why certain seats on the same ride are slightly more forgiving than others. As for min closed position I guess the manufacture specifies this but can a park make a restraint more restrictive for reasons? I.e insurance, stricter state inspection laws etc? One thing I noticed is the b&m clamshells in the USA are more forgiving (usually about 3 clicks) than the likes of European ones (silver star at Europa 5 clicks). I wonder why that is...

  • @iceblade019
    @iceblade019 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    a coaster seat office chair at home is something i didn’t know i need…now i so badly want a B&M Hyper(my absolute favorite model) seat xD

  • @djsinkaz
    @djsinkaz ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dude! Thank you for sharing your expertise and experience with all of us. I think this might be my new favorite channel, Keep up the great work!

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad you enjoy it. I don’t have awesome videos but I have knowledge and some stories.

  • @MagnoliaStreetTV
    @MagnoliaStreetTV ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Not sure how I missed this video when it came out but thank you for making this! This was a really informative and well-made video!

  • @alkankondo89
    @alkankondo89 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So much interesting information! I'm going on a trip next week where I'll be riding a lot of coasters, and now you've given me a litany of safety mechanisms that I can watch for. Many thanks! Loving the insight you share in these videos, such as the system of redundancy-checking that your crew performed on those RMC hydraulic restraints, that you explained towards the end of the video. Fascinating stuff!
    Also, cool office chair, haha!

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you! Have a fun and safe trip!!! Remember to hydrate at the parks

  • @bamboo6893
    @bamboo6893 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love these types of videos please keep up the good work!

  • @BulletResistant
    @BulletResistant ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That's really great thinking to make the kids check alternate n+1 cylinders every other cycle. Not being an engineer (in "meat space", I am one in cyber space) those clicky restraints always feel positive vs the infinite adjustment ones less so. From a "feel" perspective I do like having the belt, as I assume it will be n+2 at that point, though it is a length gauge. I was in a big park recently on an RMC single rail if I recall correctly, and they gave me a big floppy extension that had like 12 inches of slack and came undone cause the 'kids' mounted it clip side down, but I think its job was just to prevent the retracting metal / braided core shoulder belts from flying around (which were additional to the rigid cage that came down from the top). Haha shrug! Somebody smart hopefully worked it out -- although things like that would probably freak out casual guests, I assume there's layers and layers of redundancy and inspection.

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      its all to make everyone feel warm and cozy. the skyrocket II had no seat belts, then later we installed seat belts. they give people such a better feeling and allow them to enjoy the ride more.

  • @coolredpen
    @coolredpen ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video, very insightful, thank you

  • @Colaholiker
    @Colaholiker ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I should have seen this video before my first visit to Cedar Point a month ago.
    The reason is their B&M invert, Raptor - where I think the belt is shorter than on other B&M inverts, but not knowing the detail, I didn't count to 4. Regardless, I just barely got it to latch, while I still had plenty of belt to spare both on all their other B&Ms and every other B&M invert (including the Raptor clone at Walygator in France) I have ever been on. Which makes me wonder if that belt is actually just a smidge shorter than usual.
    Speaking of shorter belts - they seem to love them. Being on the tall side, when the typical Arrow restraints rest on my shoulders, there's always still a lot of room in front of me. Which never caused any issues, belts latched, all was good. But not on Cedar Point's Corkscrew where the belt was a good 3 inches too short to latch. Really makes me wonder why that is (In the days before and after, I rode a total of three old Arrow loopers/Corkscrews, both operated by Cedar Fair and Six Flags, none of them was a problem. Just that particular one.
    The discussion between having the belt as a gauge or electronics gets especially funny when you are on a ride that has both and they don't agree. When I rode Maverick, the belt had latched with ease - but the prox didn't seem to care. (For those not familiar with this particular coaster, they have a big monitor in the station where not just the ride crew sees the status of each seat, but also the riders can see if their seat is "green" or not). It took some pushing and shoving for my seat symbol to light up. Fortunately it did though. 😅

  • @SuV33358
    @SuV33358 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Interesting video! I would have liked to see more visuals of actual seats and their components , more diagrams etc. I know there were a couple pics , just an FYI.😊

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yea most all parks will not allow photos of restraints. Honestly they best source of pictures is from IAPA or trade shows when they show off the new components.

    • @SuV33358
      @SuV33358 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ryantheridemechanic ok thanks. I figured something like that

  • @Porcf81
    @Porcf81 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting you mention 4 clicks before the seatbelt, because that’s not, or wasn’t the case on early B&M inverts. I’ve ridden on two Batman inverts where a large friend beside me unbuckled on the brake run and their harness opened completely. The belt was capable of buckling before any clicks. This was over ten years ago and doesn’t seem to be the case now, but I was blown away the first time, and when it happened again at another park I realized it was something to watch out for.

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s crazy! Wonder if those parks were making their own belts. I know GCI restraints seems like that need 1 click but what people don’t know is that there is an indexing cam on the inside. The first 6 teeth are skipped, than when you get that first click you actually latched in on the 7th tooth!

  • @awesometronic
    @awesometronic 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's interesting that parks can add safety and ride programming on top of what the manufacturer sends out. Are these kinds of additions typically done by a park engineer or by the manufacturer? I'd love to hear more about the programming side of things in general (I'm a typical techie programmer).

  • @juliencano477
    @juliencano477 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hello Ryan! I am a Mechanical Engineering student and am curious on learning more about roller coaster restraints. Specifically hydraulic restraint systems and how they are controlled to lock and detect when they are fully engaged? If there are any resources that you could point me to that would help me better understand? I know they are becoming more common in newer coasters.
    Also, I would love to get into the roller coaster/themed entertainment industry and was wondering if you had any tips?
    Thank you!

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There isn’t much to hydraulic cylinders. One cylinder, one valve, one accumulator. Mainly it’s a manual pull test performed to check on a cycle by cycle basis.
      If you want to use your skills in the industry you will need to start “knocking on doors” and try to get in with a manufacturer. Internships if offered could get you in. But remember this is a extremely small industry so most doors are not open. Be prepared to travel and learn a different language.

  • @simoncurrie5520
    @simoncurrie5520 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Don't know if u have any experience on s and s shot towers. We had one. Operating system was always playing up on it. Then nli don't know if this bits true but we had to borrow a reboot disc from another park as someone had lost ours. It would be cool if you did a video how they work very cool. 😂

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lost the disc?! Man that sounds no fun at all! So I have no real experience with it but sooo Manny people are asking about S&S towers. Hmmm I might have to figure out how to snoop around one of those.

  • @johnphillips3475
    @johnphillips3475 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very interesting video - just one question: If B&M's XL seats can accommodate larger riders without excluding smaller ones, I don't understand why they don't just use those seats throughout the train.

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The additional weight would be too much stress on the train over many years of service. Plus you loose a slight about of adjustability in the ratchet pawls.

    • @johnphillips3475
      @johnphillips3475 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ryantheridemechanic I see, thank you for that. It's something I've often wondered, but never found an answer to. Thank you for providing such an informative channel!

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@johnphillips3475 your welcome

  • @casuallystalled
    @casuallystalled ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thats a cool office chair

  • @hohlbrot1
    @hohlbrot1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love your videos
    If I remember correctly from riding coasters some of the gas cylinder restreints are fully locked in both directions, while others allow to be pushed further down, which is especially annoying with positive forces.
    Is there any reason to use one over the other?
    Or does it depend on manufacturer?

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  ปีที่แล้ว

      I’ve honestly never seen a gas cylinder lock in both directions. Normally they will let it be tighter. Only ones I can think of is a “v” style tooth that will freeze a restraint in both directions. Hmmm. Maybe they used gas as a primary and mechanical as a secondary? You wouldn’t necessarily hear the mechanical ratchet at all. it would just lock.

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh wait. Hydraulic cylinders like on a Huss topspin will lock in both directions. But those are not gas they are fed by a hydraulic pump and reservoir.

  • @sharkheadism
    @sharkheadism ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What's up with Intamin's buckling system? In my experience it wasn't easy for guests to figure them out, and guests already had problems getting the more conventional buckles done correctly.

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They like using true 90° latches. Problem with those is if you over extend them, they mess up the latch. A lot of places are switching to the safety style buckles making things worse. But from a safety stand point they work great. 2 separate operations to release.

  • @mikewalker4950
    @mikewalker4950 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Do you have any experience with the B&M clamshell (hyper) restraints? Not sure if it’s 3 everywhere, but they make you have 3 clicks before it’s green. Why 3 instead of 2 or 4?

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If it’s anything like the rest of theirs it probably 6 but they are doubled so you only hear 3.

  • @thatderek
    @thatderek ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great channel! Can you help settle a friendly argument?
    Back in 2015 my family and I were on Fast Track at WDW. The ride stopped for a moment while our carrier was next to an access platform. While we were waiting I pressed my seatbelt release button. I realize this was a really dumb thing to do but bordom + caffeine + a curious nature sometimes = thoughtless stupidity. I own my bad decision. However, once I did that i discovered the shoulder ratcheting mechanism would no longer allow the belt to reach the buckle. After trying frantically for several seconds the belt was locked all the way back near my shoulder. I was completely unbuckled and scared the ride might restart at any time so I made a snap decision to jump out of the carrier and onto the access platform right next to the track. To this day my wife says that was even more dangerous and one of the dumbest things I've ever done but based on the fact I was already unbuckled I feel the 3 second of risk I took jumping out was far better than risking riding the entire ride with no restraint.
    In the end I'll never know for sure because the ride never restarted, the lights were turned on and castmembers escorted everyone onto the platform and off the ride. I don't know if this was becauee the ride had an unrelated issue or if it was because someone happened to see me standing next to it on camera, nobody from the park said anything to me about jumping out. My question for you is...
    What would you have done in this situation? Stayed inside and held tight or jumped out?
    What is the likelyhood the coaster could have reatarted after I unbuckeled my belt?
    Important: The seatbelt is the only restraint on this ride, at least it was in 2015, not sure if this has changed.

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Wow what a story. 1) on test track. You should never be able to unbuckle outside of a loading area. Typically cast members have to come, and Manny unlock the seatbelts to allow people off the coach. The fact that yours is unbuckled might’ve actually been the reason that the ride shut down. Number two, when you got off, it was more than likely instantly seen in the CCTV’s and the ride was sent into an ESTOP. I am, however, with your wife, the safest thing to do is to always stay in your vehicle, and never try to get out. It’s people trying to get out that causes the majority of any sort of problems or possible injuries. Sorry. “ Remain seated please” haha

  • @timk987
    @timk987 ปีที่แล้ว

    I noticed that the new trains RMC just unveiled with their new "Wild Moose" family coaster has a class 4 restraint. Do you have any insight on the ASTM classifications for restraints? Could it just be that the forces on the new coaster are too mild to require a class 5 train, but the very same train may qualify as class 5 if it where on a ride with more dynamic forces?

  • @dindog22
    @dindog22 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    do parks have X ray machines for these rides?

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The park would not but the ND T companies do. That is very hard so typically they use magnetic partial inspection is the cheapest fastest close to bullet proof method to inspect.

  • @corysillaman8748
    @corysillaman8748 ปีที่แล้ว

    😂😂😂

  • @TrainCoasterFan
    @TrainCoasterFan ปีที่แล้ว

    What ride did that seat come from? Looks like Maverick at Cedar Point but i’m not sure!

  • @bprebula
    @bprebula 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Okay, gotta ask...what is up with Shyrush's restraints? Is it purely the positive Gs that make them tighten throughout the ride or is it just a poor design? That's the only coaster I've ridden that I've seen that restraint style on.

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Should just be the gforce pushing them down while you body is also compressing. That’s an intense ride for sure.

    • @bprebula
      @bprebula 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ryantheridemechanic It is very forceful so I half expected that to be the case. Is there any way to combat that?

    • @ryantheridemechanic
      @ryantheridemechanic  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@bprebula overpowering loving shocks but then no one could close them. Manufactures want restraints to tighten if needed without help so hon are the days of position locking except on atandup seat position. Not much you can do other than to hold it up during high gforce areas.

    • @bprebula
      @bprebula 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ryantheridemechanic womp womp 😂

  • @sumguy8
    @sumguy8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    acrost isn't a word

  • @TheRobbieEffect
    @TheRobbieEffect 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    But hang on, the restraints can obviously come loose as they open in the station. So why can’t this happen during the ride? You didn’t cover this.