Land in Istanbul fly to Cappadocia. Rent car drive to Konya -> Antalya -> pamukkale -> Izmir -> bursa -> Istanbul. Stay however long you like in each city. They are all beautiful and full of history and culture.
Ummatics seems to be a very wide intelletual attempt to understand the changing world systems,and to develop and recognize opportunities with the scholararship to understand this for Muslims. Am I correct in this? It seems like a good idea, but I also wonder how much of this will be used against Muslims. (Not saying the guest is against Muslims, but non Muslims who may raid the intellectual conclusions.) It isn't just about changing framing , it's about predictions too.
how about.. don't bring it back? the rashidun caliphate period was awful filled with civil wars, infighting and bloodshed between muslims, stop treating it like a golden period we should aspire to return back to.
So you would rather live under secular governments...that are filled with infighting, civil wars and bloodshed. You do know more humans died under secular humanist governments in the past century then any time in world history correct?
The first 24 years of the Rashidun was peaceful. Until the assassination of Uthman, and the 6 years of Ali's reign. Then there was 20 years of peace under Muawiyah. Then there was 12 years of Civil war. Then the Umayyad Caliphate was mostly peaceful for the next 50 years. Save the revolt of Ibn al Ashath. It's in this time the Caliphate reached it furthest extent, from Ujjain in Madhya Pradesh to Southern France Then from 740 there were 10 years of Anarchy due to the great Berber revolt, third fitnah and Abbasid revolution. But under the Abbasids, there was 60 years of peace until the Mamun-Amin civil war. Then there were a further 45 years of peace until the anarchy at Samarra. It's in this time that the great intellectual flourishing began, both in secular sciences and Islamic ones After that, the Caliphate began to lose its independence to individual warlords. Becoming ceremonial. But the general people would largely be unaffected by most of these civil wars. Until the Seljuk invasions, which seem to have devastated large regions. And pushed for nomadic pastoralism over agriculture. After the Seljuks were the Khwarezmian and then Mongol invasions. But after the Mongols brutal conquest, their rule was quite peaceful. Until they started splitting in mid 1300s. Then Timur ravaged everything, but unlike the Mongols, he didn't rebuild after that. Then under the 3 gunpowder empires, it was generally peaceful until 1700 when they lost their power. Eventually Europeans took over.
It's the same as saying look how many people don't practice Islam so why practice it, no one is free from sin and mistakes but Allah gave us a law that we have to follow you can't cancel Allah's law because of human mistakes
Civil wars happened after the rashidun years. Get your history right. Also, how many Muslims have been indiscriminately killed since the loss of the caliphate?
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Land in Istanbul fly to Cappadocia. Rent car drive to Konya -> Antalya -> pamukkale -> Izmir -> bursa -> Istanbul. Stay however long you like in each city. They are all beautiful and full of history and culture.
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34:03 imran khan ended up a disappointment he was just obsessed with retaining power no vision
Ummatics seems to be a very wide intelletual attempt to understand the changing world systems,and to develop and recognize opportunities with the scholararship to understand this for Muslims. Am I correct in this? It seems like a good idea, but I also wonder how much of this will be used against Muslims. (Not saying the guest is against Muslims, but non Muslims who may raid the intellectual conclusions.) It isn't just about changing framing , it's about predictions too.
Islam solves all problems that world systems have caused/failed to solve e.g. economy, society, ecology.
how about.. don't bring it back? the rashidun caliphate period was awful filled with civil wars, infighting and bloodshed between muslims, stop treating it like a golden period we should aspire to return back to.
So you would rather live under secular governments...that are filled with infighting, civil wars and bloodshed. You do know more humans died under secular humanist governments in the past century then any time in world history correct?
The first 24 years of the Rashidun was peaceful. Until the assassination of Uthman, and the 6 years of Ali's reign.
Then there was 20 years of peace under Muawiyah.
Then there was 12 years of Civil war.
Then the Umayyad Caliphate was mostly peaceful for the next 50 years. Save the revolt of Ibn al Ashath.
It's in this time the Caliphate reached it furthest extent, from Ujjain in Madhya Pradesh to Southern France
Then from 740 there were 10 years of Anarchy due to the great Berber revolt, third fitnah and Abbasid revolution.
But under the Abbasids, there was 60 years of peace until the Mamun-Amin civil war. Then there were a further 45 years of peace until the anarchy at Samarra.
It's in this time that the great intellectual flourishing began, both in secular sciences and Islamic ones
After that, the Caliphate began to lose its independence to individual warlords. Becoming ceremonial.
But the general people would largely be unaffected by most of these civil wars.
Until the Seljuk invasions, which seem to have devastated large regions. And pushed for nomadic pastoralism over agriculture.
After the Seljuks were the Khwarezmian and then Mongol invasions.
But after the Mongols brutal conquest, their rule was quite peaceful. Until they started splitting in mid 1300s.
Then Timur ravaged everything, but unlike the Mongols, he didn't rebuild after that.
Then under the 3 gunpowder empires, it was generally peaceful until 1700 when they lost their power.
Eventually Europeans took over.
It's the same as saying look how many people don't practice Islam so why practice it, no one is free from sin and mistakes but Allah gave us a law that we have to follow you can't cancel Allah's law because of human mistakes
Civil wars happened after the rashidun years. Get your history right. Also, how many Muslims have been indiscriminately killed since the loss of the caliphate?
Rashidun Losses - Less than Half a Million People
Secular World Losses today in just Second Iraq War alone - 1 Million People Dead
your choice