Rebellion in Islam with Professor Ovamir Anjum

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  • @botteya11
    @botteya11 2 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    Brother Paul this topic is the most imprtant one in the arab and islamic word today... Thank you.. Looking for more in the future...

    • @breakdown7553
      @breakdown7553 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      it truly is!

    • @aq7705
      @aq7705 ปีที่แล้ว

      The brainwashed SAUDI TROLL-ARMY have already started on him.

  • @badrkazi2796
    @badrkazi2796 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I have been following you since you had few thousand subscribers Alhamdullilah your content continues to be hugely impressive
    You have created a space for respectful and meaningful dialogue between scholars academics and laypeople from all backgrounds The Muslim Ummah is better for it!
    Shukran and please do continue

  • @pic18f452
    @pic18f452 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I feel that I should start downloading these gems in the fear of losing access to them.. MashaAllah I can't emphasize enough how good and beneficial this channel is.

    • @headsmashingmujahid1001
      @headsmashingmujahid1001 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That MUST be done. We need these to remain and spread. Paul has done a huge service to the ummah.

  • @ariyoabiona1606
    @ariyoabiona1606 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    It is amazing to witness the work and the thought process of our scholars. Alhamdulillah for the blessings of the scholars. Alhamdulillah that we can be human and Muslim, that we can have space to express our human feelings and still be able to submit without question to Allah. Alhamdulillah, what a merciful Lord. Alhamdulillah robil alamin.

  • @samizakariya5155
    @samizakariya5155 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Thank you brother paul and professor ovamir for giving us interesting intellectual seminar 👍🏾

  • @noureddineharkat2330
    @noureddineharkat2330 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I agree with the well argued views of professor ovamir anjum. Thank you Paul.this is one of the best topics featured on blogging theology. May Allah bless you. Greetings from Algeria.

  • @salahaddeen1269
    @salahaddeen1269 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Thank you Mr. Paul for demolishing the myth of Worshipping the ruler as a demi god alongside God

    • @noneya3969
      @noneya3969 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What about the myth that taking a few guns from America or Iran deems you qualified to rebel and rule your country? Worked really well for Iraq, Syria, Libya, and Yemen 👍🏻

    • @iklmn
      @iklmn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ukasxm8245 They aren't salfis , they impersonates salaf to give them selves some legitimacy in the eyes of the public

    • @koroglurustem1722
      @koroglurustem1722 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ukasxm8245 cuz they're in power in Saudi

  • @ckotty
    @ckotty 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Professor Anjun, many thanks for sharing your knowledge and opinion on this topic that's really unknown to me. And it seems so important. Great analysis, this will keep me busy for a good while to research.
    Thanks Paul for your choice of guest.
    👍🏽😘

    • @johnbrzykcy3076
      @johnbrzykcy3076 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      This topic is also unknown by me... Is "rebellion" a very important issue in Islam? Peace

  • @jaza457x8
    @jaza457x8 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wallahi Paul, I truly love you for the sake of Allah swt. Time & time again, you have your finger on the pulse; & facilitate topics which the scholars for dollars don't want examined!

  • @MnM_CuteCatClips
    @MnM_CuteCatClips 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    By far, the best conversation. No doubt. Alhamdulillah. Thank you, brother Paul. 🥰

  • @wandering3ngineer
    @wandering3ngineer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks Paul for creating this platform. Much needed.

  • @kakicikgu9600
    @kakicikgu9600 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    An interesting, intellectual and thorough discussion of the topic. Thank you.

  • @shefayetchowdhury6316
    @shefayetchowdhury6316 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Brilliant as usual!... Loving his previous talk including this one! 🙏👍🏼

  • @Fundamental_Islam.
    @Fundamental_Islam. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I always had doubts about this opinion of not rebelling. JazakAllah

  • @hakimnzilal9385
    @hakimnzilal9385 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you Brother Paul for this video.

  • @primaquran9093
    @primaquran9093 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This was an excellent presentation. Thank you Paul for having the courage to have him on your channel.
    There are people who want to weaponize this word 'Khawarij' and use it to brow beat the populace into submission.
    The definition of Khawarij
    Khawarij = “The ones that have gone out or have come out.”
    In the Arabic language, it has no negative connotation in and of itself.
    One of the largest Muslim daw’ah groups in the world our brothers The Tablighi Jamaat go out on Khuruj -going out in the path of Allah for 40 days.
    “So from wherever you go out (kharajta)turn your face toward al- Masjid al-haram, and indeed, it is the truth from your Lord. And Allah is not unaware of what you do.” (Quran 2:149)
    The Day they will hear the blast in truth. That is the (yawmu-khuruji) Day of Emergence.” (Qur’an 50:42)
    The other point is that this term has is a polemical term used to disparage certain groups of Muslims. If we examine the polemical usage of the word than all the qualities that are used to say this particular sect is khawarij are equally applicable to all other factions and sects.
    Yes our leaders should be advised. If they are oppressing us we should bear it and continue to advise them. However, if they will not listen to reason we should absolutely get rid of them! The caveat here is that if in the process of rebellion more lives will be lost in the process and the oppressive leader is likely to remain in power, we still bear it with patience.
    Otherwise, hit the road Jack and don't you come back no more no more no more...

  • @nasreenebrahim2220
    @nasreenebrahim2220 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you brother Paul.

  • @nanashi2146
    @nanashi2146 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    This is quite a controversial topic amongst the Ummah today

    • @FreddieGamingHD
      @FreddieGamingHD 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      probably the most controversial

    • @iklmn
      @iklmn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not controversial at all , 1% of people who have immense power and wealth(aka tyrant rulers) want it to be that way , so they do kiII imprison torture and suppress any scholar out there trying to say as much as a bleep against them , and while doing so they created a sect a group of people calling themselves scholars or"salafies" and gave them positions in the media jobs at Universites etc so they go and support tyranny, all of it is for cash and prestige💸💸 and some of it is out of fear.

    • @One.Punch.Muslim
      @One.Punch.Muslim 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Indeed. Ustadh Abdulrahman Hassan, The one whom I mainly take knowledge from, covers this topic in an 11 hour lecture.

    • @muhammadabdulmateen8473
      @muhammadabdulmateen8473 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@One.Punch.Muslim and he misqoutes every 15mins i guess. Or misapply them

    • @Kimeikus
      @Kimeikus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@One.Punch.Muslim Yeah, but he just misquotes and uses fallacies throughout the entire thing.
      It’s incredible in that sense.

  • @rehanbinnazeem
    @rehanbinnazeem 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This is an exceptional presentation on the ways in which rebellion as a creedal notion evolved over time. Fortunately, I have read Khalid Abol Fadl's work on it as well.

    • @haticeergun7618
      @haticeergun7618 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There are NO rebels among the Muslim ummah..They are the enemies of Islam who infiltrated within our community to create chaos and confusion in order to divide and destroy Islam..!
      They are less than 0.001 % in our ummah and they have ZILCH effect on any true Muslim..!
      Laanatullahi alal munafiqoon..!

    • @siemprestruggle9272
      @siemprestruggle9272 ปีที่แล้ว

      What is the name of the article?

  • @muhammedali7280
    @muhammedali7280 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته وبعد thanks 4 shearing this Best knowledge شكرا لكم وارجو المزيد...

  • @thinkers6337
    @thinkers6337 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Brother Paul, Very good work. Mashallah, God bless u. If the slides could be available, it would be better.

  • @zakaria2585
    @zakaria2585 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    May Allah bless you Paul

  • @ilmnaut8032
    @ilmnaut8032 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This was an excellent presentation, my views are quite similar to that of Ustadh Ovamir.

  • @AxmedBahjad
    @AxmedBahjad 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Salaam,
    Although I like most of the guests on BT, Ovamir is the best among them. It's fact, not personal.
    I've never heard of Ovamir until now, and I am reading his essay titled "Who Wants the Caliphate?"
    He's well-read and a good writer.
    Cheers,
    ab

  • @abuladula
    @abuladula 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This channel is invaluable to to Muslims.

  • @obstacleisway
    @obstacleisway 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That was frankly touching: 1:13:00 to the end.

  • @Humerabluebells
    @Humerabluebells ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I found this presentation very interesting. Considering it was only just over one hour a lot was covered and gave food for a lot of further thought.

  • @Omer1996E.C
    @Omer1996E.C 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is the one of the most important topics for me. If you had just made a short video of this so we can hear just the conclusions in short

  • @mcsusa75
    @mcsusa75 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This discussion presents theories within some of the "Islamic" history, no rights no wrongs , eventually it's all for Allah to let us know on the day of judgement.
    But a question remains, how come non of the talk was about why we should never rely on any anti-Islamic powers, or tools , against any so called tyrant of an Islamic nation?

    • @louiswilliamson5937
      @louiswilliamson5937 ปีที่แล้ว

      I believe Ovamir Anjum has discussed this vis a vis Wael Hallaq in articles discussing the Muslim need for a caliphate. More specifically that relying on modernist political ideologies grafted onto Islam will always lead to a dead end, since pre-modern Islam was never primarily about the political. At least that is my reading of it. I think you can find some videos and articles about this.

  • @everygoodisinwhatthesalafb7613
    @everygoodisinwhatthesalafb7613 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    if rebelling against an oppresive ruler was something to acheived then what happened to iraq,syria ,libya,yemen,somalia . bring a real scholar not a western based professor

    • @Mooshmomken
      @Mooshmomken 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      What happened is Allah is preparing the field to replace your likes with strong muslims who don't worship demigods like MbS and MbZ

  • @zenityquest8402
    @zenityquest8402 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Talked about how puppet leaders are easier to control by imperialists powers. What’s missing in the discussion is how color revolutions, strife rebellion are used by imperialists powers to overthrow governments that are not their puppet.
    You might want to have Brian berlectic over for that discussion.

  • @rogersmith6813
    @rogersmith6813 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Commenting for algorithm
    But also we need to share this to family and friends whether they watch it or not is another thing

  • @ibrahimsiali2419
    @ibrahimsiali2419 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "The government is an institution that prevents injustice, other than which it commits itself." - Ibn Khaldun.

  • @Reewnat
    @Reewnat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Shaykh Hamza, though stating the default of strong position against rebellion, he recently stated during his First Command Bookclub that these situations would depend on the context/details.

    • @JD.007
      @JD.007 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah it kinda felt like Ovamir wanted to throw shade at Sh. Hamza. It’s unfortunate.

  • @abdulazizabdulaziz7352
    @abdulazizabdulaziz7352 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    very interesting channel...hopefully one of your topic talks about mujaddid (reviver of islam )

  • @abuladula
    @abuladula 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    @ PaulWillams
    Please interview
    Imam Ninowy of Al Madina institute, Atlanta Georgia.
    Timothy Winters of Cambridge University.
    Hamza Yusuf of Zaytuna College, Berkley California.
    On the subject of Ilmul Nafs (science of the Self) or the traveler's journey and his end destination.

  • @quixoticmelancholic7141
    @quixoticmelancholic7141 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I sincerely hope this information was privately given to Sh. Hamza for him to consider ( his loyalty to his sheikh notwithstanding)

  • @TheSaleem57
    @TheSaleem57 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We need to study the "Syarah" of these Hadiths and also the right contexts...

  • @HistoryOfRevolutions
    @HistoryOfRevolutions 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Umar ibn Al Khattab asked Salmān al-Fārsī: “Am I a King or a Caliph?” He replied, “If you collect from the lands one dirham unjustly then you are a king.” And ‘Umar began to weep"
    عن سلمان أَنَّ عُمَرَ رَضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُ قَالَ لَهُ: «أَمَلِكٌ أَنَا أَمْ خَلِيفَةٌ ؟ قَالَ لَهُ سَلْمَانُ رَضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُ: إِنْ أَنْتَ جَبَيْتَ مِنْ أَرْضِ المُسلمينَ دِرْهَمَاً أَوْ أَقَلَّ أَوْ أَكْثَرَ ثُمَّ وَضَعْتَهُ فِي غَيْرِ حَقهِ فَأَنْتَ مَلِكٌ غَيْرُ خَلِيفَةٍ، فَاسْتَعْبَرَ عُمَرُ
    - Source: Ibn Sa‘d’s al-Ṭabaqāt al-Kubrā, Kanz al-‘Ummāl (35777)

  • @rehanaturabali6626
    @rehanaturabali6626 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Critical to understand especially in terms of the history of Muslims and Muslim societies today mostly controlled and subjugated directly by dictators and indirectly by the powerful elite and governments of so called developed countries. Thank you so much for this overview, dr ovamir anjum.

  • @thewisetzar5363
    @thewisetzar5363 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ovamir anjum is a great guest

  • @user-vr4sc8dh5t
    @user-vr4sc8dh5t 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Paul can you upload your videos to a website just in case.

  • @Russ007able
    @Russ007able 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ❤️🌹❤️

  • @samy7013
    @samy7013 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve always understood the hadith about not rebelling against the ruler “even if he whips your back and takes your wealth” (I’m paraphrasing, but you know the hadith that I’m referring to) is to be understood in two ways, but not the third:
    1) If the ruler legitimately punishes you for a crime by flogging you or fining you, don’t rebel, as the ruler is acting within his legitimate authority;
    2) If the ruler punishes you for a crime by flogging you or fining you, but you are innocent of the crime-say for example, due to an honest mistake in investigation or due to a group of miscreants conspiring against you and giving false testimony or planting false evidence to mislead the ruler into punishing you-still don’t rebel because the ruler was acting within his legitimate authority, and the mistake against you was not a deliberate one by the ruler;
    3) The hadith is not intended to give immunity to unjust rulers who deliberately and callously disobey Allah and commit crimes against you and unjustly accuse you of crimes you did not commit in order to punish you, and the hadith was not intended to give immunity to rulers against the laws outlawing theft, assault, rape, abduction, and murder, etc.
    The only specific act of injustice that I’ve ever read a hadith wherein the Prophet Muhammad (SAAWS) instructed us to be patient and endure, was the one where rulers might play favorites and hire or promote some officials or representatives ahead of others who are more deserving, or where rulers grant favors or rewards to some people and not others who are arguably more deserving. That’s it. But nowhere have I ever read or been presented with evidence attributed to Rasool Allah Muhammad (SAAWS) whereby he gave immunity to rulers from the hudood of Allah. But as in all things, Allah knows best, and I’m happy to examine any authentic evidence that corrects my understanding.

  • @PakiLibertarian
    @PakiLibertarian 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent presentation by your guest. Even though Karbala is mentioned as a snippet.
    Karbala is probably the most pivoal event in Muslim History. Just 50 years after the demise of the Prophet, his Ummah ended up massacring his family.
    The famous hadith where the Prophet (s) stated “ Hassan and Hussein are the masters of the youth of Paradise” show us the status of the two grandsons of the Prophet (s). Did the Prophet(s) say that because he thought that his grandsons were cute or did he say that to tell his Ummah that his grandsons were destined to do something great that will make them deserving of that honor? Most Sunni scholars unfortunately treat it as a historical inconvenience which raise questions about how it came to be that just within 50 years after the demise of the Prophet (s), the people of his Ummah massacred his family members and even after all that, notable companions (Ibn Umar, Numan bin Bashir, etc) still kept their allegiance to Yazid.

  • @irfanizzi335
    @irfanizzi335 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    the professor mentioned the works of Islamic scholars on the power of the state and mega corporations, Can anyone suggest one or two scholars/books regarding this, as a young generation, it's hard for me to find one that isn't western or have an eurocentric view

  • @homosapien7754
    @homosapien7754 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there any authentic youtube series on Islamic history? Any channel into Muslim history? Please recommend

    • @creativeideas012
      @creativeideas012 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Check ilm film while researching on your own alongside

  • @megasp
    @megasp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    In the main hadiths slide the Arabic quotations are not complete, the English translation includes words/meanings not in his quoted parts. Red flag

    • @amateratsu5922
      @amateratsu5922 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      This guy is misinterpreting these hadiths

    • @firavv
      @firavv 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      this guy is from the Yaqeen Institute, they support shirk and kufr

  • @sonarbangla8711
    @sonarbangla8711 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Besides advocating for JUSTICE, Islam's focus is on moral/ethical lifestyle, even giving guidance on all forms of problem in life and how to face them, including sex life.

  • @codingblues3181
    @codingblues3181 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would say there is clear indication in Quran that supports the first position, that is the verse 42:39, وَالَّذِينَ إِذَا أَصَابَهُمُ الْبَغْيُ هُمْ يَنتَصِرُونَ

  • @thegamechanger3317
    @thegamechanger3317 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    BROTHER PAUL I could not see any evidence for the story of Omar ibn Alkhatab (RA) that he praised those who said to him we will straighten you with our swords there is some similar reports but with mention of the sword.
    if there is reference could be provided

  • @Johnlark-64
    @Johnlark-64 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Timeplates??

  • @zuzvc
    @zuzvc 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Islam is the truth

  • @One.Punch.Muslim
    @One.Punch.Muslim 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I hold this opinion after doing my studying: Khurooj is not permissible unless the *Muslim* ruler(even if he is opressive) has committed Kufr or has commanded the people to do something which is Haram.
    There are various Ayat in the Quran and Hadith I can provide to back up my statement. Furthermore, Al-Bukhari (RA) said he met 1000 scholars over 46 years and there was Ijma that Khurooj was not permissible.

    • @ayyazsiddique5381
      @ayyazsiddique5381 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      True 👍👍👍

    • @haticeergun7618
      @haticeergun7618 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ayyazsiddique5381
      Based on what are you confirming that allegation..!?
      Ittaqulllah and learn the holy Qur'an before expressing an opinion ..!

    • @muhammadabdulmateen8473
      @muhammadabdulmateen8473 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He took his knowledge frm sheikh ul misqoutes abdurrahman hassan. This ppl will bend their backs and lick boots just for the rulers

    • @ayyazsiddique5381
      @ayyazsiddique5381 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@haticeergun7618 Based on my own research in Quran, Sunnah and understanding of the salaf of the ummah.

    • @ayyazsiddique5381
      @ayyazsiddique5381 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@muhammadabdulmateen8473 I don't follow a personality cult. I take from book of Allah, summah of messenger and understanding of the salaf. May ALLAH guide us all...

  • @fatmaisead1224
    @fatmaisead1224 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    ياريت في ترجمه. بحط لايك وانا مش فاهمه اشي. لحبي بالقناه وصاحبها 🌹👍🤲🤲🤲. بقرء ترجمه. التعليقات فقط

  • @windowview8240
    @windowview8240 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Fatwa against Paul Williams from the Manhaj Checkers are coming.

    • @kaz4845
      @kaz4845 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Damn right

  • @smsh32
    @smsh32 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why so much commercials? Its really overwhelming.

    • @tarikplaystation8956
      @tarikplaystation8956 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      get ublock

    • @johnbrzykcy3076
      @johnbrzykcy3076 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Snakejüce Yes I get so many ads. I need to make a "rebellion" against ads. Peace

  • @nonai1831
    @nonai1831 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why such an image on demo?

  • @KnowledgeNorth
    @KnowledgeNorth 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Although OA made some good points, such as emphasising the morality of Ali, how secular states use religious pronouncements against rebellion to stifle dissent, and how allegiance sworn should be voluntary, and not by coercion. Unfortunately, however, he made quite a few factual errors. Some corrections:
    - Hajjaj b. Yusuf was indeed accused of having committed major kufr by many of those who fought him, as emphasised by Nawawi (d. 1277):
    قِيَامَهُمْ عَلَى الْحَجَّاجِ لَيْسَ بِمُجَرَّدِ الْفِسْقِ بَلْ لِمَا غَيَّرَ مِنَ الشَّرْعِ وَظَاهَرَ مِنَ الْكُفْرِ
    - Its not true that most Companions sided with Ali at Siffin. Most of them abstained, as affirmed by Ibn Sirin (d. 729): هاجت الفتنة وأصحاب رسول الله ﷺ عشرات الألوف فلم يحضرها منهم مائة بل لم يبلغوا ثلاثين
    What many classical scholars held was that Ali was more in the right than those who opposed him, but not more than those who abstained. In truth, Ali was in an awful predicament.
    - Most of Companions accused of rebellion (Talha, Husayn, Ibn Zubayr, etc) are wrongly accused, as they didn’t rescind any voluntary oath of allegiance or gave no allegiance at all.
    - The Companions did indeed cite the Quran and Sunna to support their respective positions. They just, for the most part, didn’t accuse each either of rebellion. The one exception to this was the Battle of Harra, fought in the 3rd year of Yazid’s reign, where there was an actual rebellion in the shari/technical sense.
    - Also, a good few narrations that OA cited, have got nothing to do with rebellion per se.

    • @tugi7104
      @tugi7104 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cope hard. Just accept that u are following salafi minority cult opinions.

    • @One.Punch.Muslim
      @One.Punch.Muslim 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Love your work! 👑
      Can't wait for your video on the Deobandit😁☝🏽

    • @kaz4845
      @kaz4845 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So just to be clear on your second point, you said the companions didn't give voluntary allegiance and so when they took up arms to fight the ruler, they didn't rebel..
      By that reasoning, if I lived in Saudi Arabia, and I haven't actually given any pledge to MBS, I can take up arms and I wouldn't be classed as a rebel?

    • @KnowledgeNorth
      @KnowledgeNorth 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@kaz4845 If you want to draw a parallel between you being in Saudi and the first fitna that afflicted those Companions, it would go something like this. You are the governor of Tabuk (Muawiya), having been appointed there by a succession of previous kings (Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman), or you are from the most senior of the legislative councils (Talha, Zubayr), each of whom has a rank of crown prince. The current king (Uthman) is murdered by a shadowy cabal and one of the crown princes (Ali) is harangued into taking the throne, becoming de facto ruler. As Tabuk's governor, with your own huge standing army, you insist that the killers of the last king are first brought to justice before your recognize the new ruler or, as one of the crown princes, you set out to gather your own forces in order to demonstrate strength against those guilty of regicide. And so on. Watch my video, Caliphate in Crisis for a proper discussion and analysis of the above.

    • @KnowledgeNorth
      @KnowledgeNorth 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      A more fundamental error that OA makes is how he defines rebellion. Based on how he interpreted the hadith he placed in his right column, the professor seemed to argue rebellion is when one displeases/defies one' ruler. But as those hadith clearly establish, there is no pleasing/obedience to the creation where it involves displeasing/disobeying the Creator. So how can such a person - who resists committing a sin - be classed as a rebel, something which is dispraised in the revelation?! It is due to such a flawed principal that many righteous people, at the head of them some of the great Companions, get routinely slandered as rebels. In Islam, rebellion is a blameworthy act akin to treachery. A believer's pious refusal to follow an authority in its own particular act(s) of treachery against Allah/His Messenger can never itself be described as treachery. Piety and treachery are on polar opposite spectrums.

  • @Al-Quraish
    @Al-Quraish 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Only a matter of time until Paul is labeled a khariji for this video 😀

    • @johnbrzykcy3076
      @johnbrzykcy3076 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm not Muslim so do you mind if I ask, what does the word "khariji" mean? Thanks

    • @Sa7biUK
      @Sa7biUK 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@johnbrzykcy3076 Hi John. The 'khawarij' (singular: 'khariji') was a sect/movement that appeared in the early days of Islam as a kind of radical splinter sect/movement whose mission statement (so to say) was 'judgement belongs to Allah alone'. They were basically the first 'extremist' movement in Islam who openly went against orthodoxy, with violent effect. They did eventually die off for the most part, eventually morphing into a more 'moderate' version in Oman as the 'Ibadi' movement and the Mzab valley of Algeria, but their more extreme ideas are still around in the form of daesh, isil, al qaeda etc. Sorry for the long answer, hope it helps

    • @johnbrzykcy3076
      @johnbrzykcy3076 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Sa7biUK Thanks. And your answer is not long at all but now I don't know what these words mean: "daesh" and "isil" and "al qaeda" ?
      Your definition/explanation of "khariji" is interesting because I'm a Christian believer and from my understanding, the early days of Christianity also had a few "splinter sect/movement" who went against the orthodoxy regarding Jesus. I don't know if there was a "violent effect" in Christianity but I assume there was because humans tend to become angry very easily and I don't think much has changed since the beginning of time. Don't you agree?
      This topic of "rebellion in Islam" is somewhat interesting to me yet confusing. I'm trying to understand Islam better.
      Thanks for any information. Peace to you

    • @jasonatreides2542
      @jasonatreides2542 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@johnbrzykcy3076
      One of the largest Muslim daw’ah groups in the world our brothers” The Tablighi Jamaat” go out on Khuruj -going out in the path of Allah for 40 days.
      “So from wherever you go out (kharajta)turn your face toward al- Masjid al-haram, and indeed, it is the truth from your Lord. And Allah is not unaware of what you do.” (Quran 2:149)
      The Day they will hear the blast in truth. That is the(yawmu-khuruji) Day of Emergence.” (Qur’an 50:42)
      The other point is that this term has is a polemical term used to disparage certain groups of Muslims. If we examine the polemical usage of the word than all the qualities that are used to say this particular sect is khawarij are equally applicable to all other factions and sects.
      It simply means to go out from.

  • @senapatiihsan5707
    @senapatiihsan5707 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please activate Indonesian Caption

  • @f.and.d9384
    @f.and.d9384 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Can you make an interview with Sheikh Mohammed James from US..
    I liked his interviews with Sajid Lipham..Ma Sha'a Allah very beneficial

  • @thegamechanger3317
    @thegamechanger3317 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    for the imam malik distress it's actually debatable situation why he has been beaten.

  • @karrarhaider1459
    @karrarhaider1459 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Salams and blessings upon you all. Listening to Brother Paul's confusion at the end, I think brother Paul would be able to think through the history and start from where the speaker ended by admitting what Ali ahlaysalam did but please brother Paul don't just stop there as the speaker tried to conclude that Imam Hassan Ahlaysalam did the best but did not went further in explaining what were the points of that agreement based on which he agreed and who then violated it and when you dig bit more then you would know hopefully why Karbala happened. The speaker ironically left the biggest event in the Islamic history, which should have been the core focus of his topic for better understanding it i.e. KARBALA and it's magnanimity, had that not happened Islam pretty much ended there, If and when you understand this event then you would understand where history actually stands!. Please brother Paul you are in a very unique position to openly discuss and understand the real history of Islam and don't just blindly follow Zaytuna college and Ibne Taymiya, you got good scholarly mind, please read listen and carefully analyse history of Islam by studying different schools of thoughts and scholars and their historical perspective. It's a prerequisite for a good history scholar or student of history. You are doing an excellent job, please broaden your horizon it's not all black and white in Islamic history, there is lot of grey and I mean a lot!!.
    At the same time it's your show, it's your right how you want to run it and have an absolute right to have your own opinion.
    God Bless always
    Wasalam
    Syed Karrar Haider

    • @BloggingTheology
      @BloggingTheology  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wa alaykumu s-salam

    • @Mooshmomken
      @Mooshmomken 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That's some delusion right there

    • @soccerabs22
      @soccerabs22 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Shi'ites are so cringe when trying to indirectly indoctrinate people lol

  • @noneya3969
    @noneya3969 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Didn’t Kharijis exist before the battle because they were the ones that caused the battle?

    • @iklmn
      @iklmn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Look up Adnan rashed for this , he have a YT channel

    • @noneya3969
      @noneya3969 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@iklmn ya I know Adnan, my question was rhetorical because the Kharijis did exist before the battle and they were the ones that started fighting which caused both sides to engage because everyone was confused and thought the other side had attacked first

  • @alfihrist
    @alfihrist 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gosh, I just really don't like the word "cleric" but great talk!

  • @shahram6869
    @shahram6869 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Khaled Abou El Fadl's book is an excellent book on this topic

    • @ilmnaut8032
      @ilmnaut8032 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      he's a modernist reformist.

    • @shahram6869
      @shahram6869 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ilmnaut8032 k

    • @abdullah19_m
      @abdullah19_m 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Modernist opinion is not authentic

    • @shahram6869
      @shahram6869 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@abdullah19_m Right. Authentic is only that which is funded by corrupt oil money

    • @abdullah19_m
      @abdullah19_m 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@shahram6869 lame and vague bs. Read Hadiths instead of modernist crap

  • @alijawad432
    @alijawad432 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Isn't this guy from the lgbtq loving shirk doing yaqeen institute?

    • @koroglurustem1722
      @koroglurustem1722 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Can you say anything about his content instead of ad hominem attacking ?

    • @alijawad432
      @alijawad432 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@koroglurustem1722 this is the deen. No deen is taken from innovators. Period.

    • @muhammadabdulmateen8473
      @muhammadabdulmateen8473 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alijawad432 sit down boy.

    • @alijawad432
      @alijawad432 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@muhammadabdulmateen8473 I am sitting

    • @koroglurustem1722
      @koroglurustem1722 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@alijawad432 you haven't said anything about the content yet. He cited the salaf like sahabis, great 4 imams etc. So who's the innovator and what's the innovation here ? If you're referring to hadith, you should know that hadith is not always black and white clear-cut. You have to read it in its context and that's what these great salaf imams had done and this guy is merely propagating their views. If you have only one view, i.e. Ibn Taymiyya's, it's your problem. Islam is not founded by Ibn Taymiyya and his understanding alone. Sunni tradition is a broader understanding with lots of healthy differences of opinion. And as he demonstrated, that difference of opinion was welcomed by the Prophet himself despite you guys wanting a monopoly of view.

  • @rationalmuslim5312
    @rationalmuslim5312 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sh bayyah a wahabi? (10min-12min), where does sheikh anjum buy his weed from? must be very good stuff

  • @homosapien7754
    @homosapien7754 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Has Paul accepted Islam?

    • @abuladula
      @abuladula 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Paul has been a Muslim for God knows how long.

  • @blade4048
    @blade4048 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Muslims should know there is different interpretation of deen in even within our sunni tradition. So we as lay people should not go around making thakfir. There will always be deference of opinions amongst scholars. Let them talk it out.
    Back in early days of islam there was no state funded army. When a person joins the army they take their own weapon and armor they bought themselves. I think now states with military backed by government have almost absolute power to become tyrants

  • @sadshitpoorpoop
    @sadshitpoorpoop 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The western colonists have high stakes for oil rich middle eastern nations. As such any turmoil or imbalance in politics in this region is like asking for western intervention. As such this is a very sensitive and even dangerous topic to discuss. You can clearly see what happened to Syria, Libiya, Iraq, Yemen, almost to iran.
    We dont have to go back to see or understand this. Almost all of the rich middle eastern muslim states are ruled by western backed and sustained puppets who won't last one month without assistance of their western masters.
    Even if you/I can justify protests or rebellion, the outcome would most certainly be much much worse than what it is now.
    The only example of a successful rebellion and overthrow of a western puppet with establishment of official Islamic government is Iran which has made so much progress in all spheres and which is exactly why it is considered to be a very bad influence for other nations in that region by western colonisers and been made a pariah by them and their puppet regimes.
    I think our scholars need to deeply study the Iranian revolution and governance and how they are still able to maintain so much stability and progress even after being under so much external pressure for decades now.

    • @thegamechanger3317
      @thegamechanger3317 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      you can look for the assistance that revolution received from USA as well

  • @ahmedghenam
    @ahmedghenam 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    اللهم انصرنا على الطغاة

  • @noneya3969
    @noneya3969 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Wahhabi? Why is he using a term created by the British for Salafis in the Arabian peninsula?

    • @ilmnaut8032
      @ilmnaut8032 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yes, we should be using the term "Najdis"

    • @anagil8775
      @anagil8775 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Snakejüce Don't get so exited because one of your team is given platform to talk in this channel, only truth rely on facts but you rely on each other.

    • @muhammadabdulmateen8473
      @muhammadabdulmateen8473 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wahabi najdis.

    • @mohamudahmed6554
      @mohamudahmed6554 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Even worse, using the name of Allah and His attribute to slander anyone who follows the Quran and Sunnah.
      Imagine, we have clear cut Hadith forbidding X and the ijma of the Salaf. You give them this and they call you a "Wahabi" . Audhubillah

    • @muhammadabdulmateen8473
      @muhammadabdulmateen8473 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@mohamudahmed6554 al wahhab and wahabi are two different. Just like how the wahabi scholars use the word maliki for followers of imam malik. So is it a insult to Allah ? No becuz his name is not malik. Its al malik. 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @andrewhosey3669
    @andrewhosey3669 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are we not already in the end times? I mean almost every sign has occured before the coming of the Mahdi except for the uncovering of the gold in the Euphrates(which is drying up and ruins of palaces are being discovered in it) and if I understand climate change this is drying up of water sources is only going to snowball not deplete at a steady predictable rate. Multiple scholars have attested to us being on the precipice of His appearance(not talking about Imran Houssein).

    • @ubermensche60
      @ubermensche60 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      but why would you even bring this issue up? Has ovamir made any reference to end times scenario?

    • @andrewhosey3669
      @andrewhosey3669 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ubermensche60 yes, the Shaykh mention a hadith about submitting to the a ruler who upholds the sharia even if he whips your back (paraphrasing) and said that this hadith was confined to the context of the end times, there are also other hadith that give instruction as to how the believers should act in the end times such as indicating that the believers should remain on their homes, break their swords, etc. I'm not sure of the level authenticity I'm not a scholar but I've heard people reference statements like this that are allegedly attributed to the Prophet(SallallahuAlayhiWaSalem).

  • @samy7013
    @samy7013 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is a ruler who is nominally Muslim-he publicly proclaims the 2 shahadas-but drops 10 atomic bombs for no reason on 10 cities of the Muslims that he rules, still a Muslim?
    Is not his invalidation of the laws against murder-essentially, proclaiming that they do not apply to him or his minions-a denial of a clear commandment of the religion and therefore “kufr bawaah”?
    Is it not clear indication that such a ruler doesn’t fear Allah because he doesn’t believe that any sort of punishment awaits him in the hereafter?
    Is he not the same as someone who nominally proclaims the 2 shahadas but then turns around and says that the Noble Qur’an is corrupted or that zakaat no longer needs to be paid because it’s not a binding pillar of religion?
    Does “kufr bawaah” have to be “kufr yakhrij min al millah” including uttering an overt kalima or shahada of kufr proclaiming a false deity?
    Did the Prophet Muhammad (SAAWS) ever make Muslim rulers exempt from the prohibition against premeditated murder?
    Was Imam Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani in error when he said that bughaat against the ruler-given a proper taa’weel-can in fact be considered ahl-haqq if the unjust ruler (“hakim jaa’ir”) doesn’t satisfy their just grievances?

  • @noneya3969
    @noneya3969 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    His example of America rebelling against England and becoming a prosperous country is kind of immature. It’s like saying “look kids, Eminem became a famous rapper so you can too!” Also, the American colonies didn’t have foreign powers creating policy papers focused on divide and conquer using sectarian and ethnic divisions. The colonialists were not constantly under attack by foreign powers. Why doesn’t he go live in Iraq or Syria or Libya or Yemen if he thinks rebellion is so beneficial. It’s so easy to say rebellion is an option when your not the one who’s gonna be living in a tent and appearing in TH-cam ads asking for donations.

  • @PakiLibertarian
    @PakiLibertarian 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Sunni position on not opposing the ruler is very inconsistent.
    Abu Bakr himself said in his first address as Caliph: “Help me, if I am in the right; set me right if I am in the wrong. ….Obey me as long as I obey Allah and His Prophet, when I disobey Him and His Prophet, then obey me not.”
    Most classical Sunni scholars came in an environment when oppressive tyrannical rule had already been established in Muslim lands and there was a need for the scholars themselves to justify their support for the tyrannical ruler. A good example is that of Ibn Shihab al-Zuhri, who was a leading scholar in the court of Abdul Malik Ibn Marwan, the ruler who had the Kaaba bombarded because Ibn Zubayr had taken refuge there. Remember Zuhri is a leading Tabi’i and narrator of hadith in all books of Hadith. This list of questionable scholars is not short.

    • @anagil8775
      @anagil8775 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sunni position is consistent, Abu Bakr hadith tell the people to obey the ruler as long as he obey Allah and his Prophet and that is exactly what the Sunni say.
      The problem with this generation is that they expect every leader to be as good as the prophet companions (first Caliphates), and what we have now are voices calling for the establishment of Caliphate empire when Muslim themselves are not united.
      In short, Muslims need to be united in faith first and when they do that I strongly believe that things will fall in its places and Muslim will become worthy to be great again.

    • @thetutsons7764
      @thetutsons7764 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm not aware of any schooler who said that we shoud obey him when he oppose allah, it's just that you can't differentiate between to disobey and to rebel, the position is clear and consistent: don't obey if he oppose allah but don't rebel against him as long as he is inside the fold of islam

    • @anagil8775
      @anagil8775 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thetutsons7764 I do not understand, do you think that rebellion is an Islamic duty or are you looking for an excuse to rebel against your ruler.
      Let us suppose that you are living under an unjust ruler but he did not prevent you from performing your religious duties or ask you to do things that are against your faith nor did he prevent you from earning your living will you rebel against him?

    • @Libercogitator
      @Libercogitator 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you see Abu Bakr's first address, the phrase "set me right if I am wrong" stands out. How do you set a ruler right if he turns out to be a tyrant? The opinion of majority of the scholars of the Sunnis advocate subservience to a tyrant, fasiq ruler. For e.g. Ibn Taymiyyah said: “Being patient with the tyranny of the rulers is a fundamental principle (asl) from the fundamentals of Ahlus-Sunnah wal-Jamā’ah.” (Majmoo’ Al-Fatāwa 28/179) This is totally contrary to the agreed upon hadith of the Prophet (S) that if you see a wrong stop it with your hand, if you can't do it, then speak against it with your tongue and if you cannot even do that then consider it wrong in your heart but that is the weakest level of Iman.
      When MBS orders an economic blockade of Yemen resulting in deaths of tens of thousands of Muslims, being patient in the face of this tyranny results in the deaths of so many human beings and Muslims. Do you really think that the Prophet left us with this instruction that a fundemental rule of our aqeedah is to obey these tyrants? Remember not obeying them is not an option either because these tyrants do not leave that as an option.

    • @anagil8775
      @anagil8775 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Libercogitator Set me right do not necessary mean rebel against me but advice me and let me know of my mistakes.
      Abu Bakr statement is a rule he set upon himself, so you don't go to any ruler and force him to adhere to someone else statement since it did not come from Allah and his Messenger.
      There are many injustices in the world and the only one you care about is Yemen, this is an example on how the media direct the people to one subject and make them ignore the others. They exaggerate this war because the involved parties are Muslims.
      Ask your self why you put Yemen ahead of Palestine, Hindus and Muslim, France and its rules against Muslims....etc.
      If you are really looking for the truth please look for the word Houthis and ask what do they want from Yemen you may find the truth behind this war and why the west want the Houthis to take over Yemen.

  • @justadude9110
    @justadude9110 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    But Quran 6:123 clearly says ruling elites are criminals. Aqabiru mujrimiha = rulers criminals. In most translations you see it translated otherwise such as sinners or evildoers! Any opinions?

    • @koroglurustem1722
      @koroglurustem1722 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You have evaluate it within the context. It doesn't generally apply to all the elites

    • @nonai1831
      @nonai1831 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Youre right! I also read it this way

  • @muhammadbenjuraij7734
    @muhammadbenjuraij7734 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Assalam Alaikum Paul. Another important video. However I have studied Islam in depth and have studied to ijazah level . Your speaker has gone around the streets and houses with the rainbow flying high without actually touching on the real reason revolution is prohibited! I normally totally welcome difference of opinion but on,y where it doesn’t lead to or promote physical hostility because this is my red line! Political fiqh?? This person is totally unaware of the reason why revolution is prohibited and this means he is not an expert on Sharia because it’s only those well versed who know these things!!!
    You see the aim of the sharia is to protect the 5 essentials for humanity: 1) The Religion-2) life -3) Property/wealth- 4) Intellect-5) lineage/honour.
    The whole sharia outside of worship makes things Haram because they threaten one or more of these, or it makes Waajib or recommended because it aids to protect or preserve one or more of these and the difference in ruling is based on the level of importance of the issue! Revolution threatens ALL OF THESE 5 necessities in one fell swoop AS WE CAN SEE FROM SYRIA where there’s Murder, rape and illegitimate kids being born, destruction of property and wealth and all this has caused despair and mental illness and intoxicant abuse! This is why revolution is totally haram not because of tawheed because this is only a part of the first necessity!
    This is why Jihad is obligatory in order to protect these 5 things and this is why Al-Qaidah are totally baatil because the thing supposed to protect these 5 things they use it to destroy them!
    There is only one instance revolution is allowed and that’s when the ruler is so evil that revolution would reduce the harm or destruction because the ruler is murdering raping and blowing up the country otherwise it’s totally haram!
    This is how a real scholar understands it! An amateur would use Husain عليه السلام as an example not a scholar!
    The kharijites appear in every age according to the Hadith not just back then!!
    All the scholars agree that enjoining the good and forbidding evil are conditional to it not leading TO A GREATER EVIL !!!! Which is what ALWAYS HAPPENS WITH REVOLUTIONS !!!! Please do not Quote Imam Ahmad because his position is clear and so trying to quote weak narrations from him won’t help!!!

  • @animatedislamichistory
    @animatedislamichistory 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    excellent material and very timely topic !
    However I cringe every time I see a "scholar" use the term "wahhabi" 🧐

  • @barryirlandi4217
    @barryirlandi4217 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lots of lies in the episode.. Sadly... Ex. Why was Malik beaten?

  • @artf2651
    @artf2651 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think u owe a big apology to the guys with the black flags...I dont think UK or USA qualify as muslim leaders...
    hehehe

  • @greegmcnight5810
    @greegmcnight5810 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It shoul be UNJUST RULERS, not unjust MUSLIM rulers. Can a MuSlim be Unjust? Any unjust is not Muslim.

  • @amateratsu5922
    @amateratsu5922 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Okay... everyone lets go rebel against the muslim leaders since none of them are 100% just nor rule by the shariah 100% and lets see what happens.
    If rebelling against the ruler was right, then why didnt the prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم and his companions رضي الله عنهم rebel against the quraish who were tyrannical rulers in makkah?

    • @kaz4845
      @kaz4845 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      🤣, logic isn't really your strong point is it..
      In this whole lecture, he gave so many examples where the sahaba and the tabi'een did rebel.
      What is your response to them? We're they devient?

    • @amateratsu5922
      @amateratsu5922 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kaz4845 and he gave so many sayings of the prophet but i guess you dont give it weight or you lack intelligence. But hey why not go and rebel oops what happend to syria, lybia, iraq etc
      Go ahead rebel then if your itching for it, go to your country and start a rebellion lets see what happens.

  • @nazzalenezi1983
    @nazzalenezi1983 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Alsalam Alykom brother Paul, thank you for the interesting topics that you share with your valuable guests. I would like to comment on the professor's note 1:13:48. Unfortunately, prof Ovamir was politically prejudice, despite the long lecture that he presented the companions and altab'een views regarding this topic. What prof Ovamir can't comprehend that the people of this region are very connected with their rulers and strongly believe in the system of government. So, why there is no protesting in these countries? Because we do not believe in protesting in first place. "La dharar wa la dherar" don't harm, and don't cause harm, to yourself and to others as well.
    By the way, there is nothing called Wahhabi or Wahhabism in this region.
    Thank you, and I apologise for my bad english.

  • @wartab6318
    @wartab6318 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    halal police

  • @tabletactics4578
    @tabletactics4578 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is this about Iran?

  • @bennyblanco7354
    @bennyblanco7354 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This view is from a person from the Yaqeen Institute, their ideology is very Muslim Brotherhood which is close to the Khawarij ideology so take what he says with a pinch of salt.

    • @salahaddeen1269
      @salahaddeen1269 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      While your ideology is the wahhabism cult which is nothing but singling out the house of Saud (the Zio*ni*st and the American best friend ) for worship and the sellouts scholars of the Saudi palace for misgudance that started in Khorooj against the ottoman and declaring the entire Ummah as apostates and disbelievers the core essence of Kharjism ,,, your saudi wahhabi cult is the essence of deviancy in Islam

    • @ilmnaut8032
      @ilmnaut8032 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Najdis are Taghut worshipping cult.

    • @merlinx8703
      @merlinx8703 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Wahabi ideology is khawarij/takfiri ideology

    • @Mooshmomken
      @Mooshmomken 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Very scholarly of you my ignoranct brother

    • @bennyblanco7354
      @bennyblanco7354 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Mooshmomken Say what

  • @koroglurustem1722
    @koroglurustem1722 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Wahabis didn't like it, lol

    • @One.Punch.Muslim
      @One.Punch.Muslim 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm not sure I will be able to watch it anytime soon but was the outcome that rebelling against a *Muslim* leader is permissible even if they have not committed Kufr or commanded that which was Haram?
      If this is the case then I would disagree with that premise.

    • @muhammadabdulmateen8473
      @muhammadabdulmateen8473 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@One.Punch.Muslim if u cant watch it thn dnt gv ur comments. Seems u alr hv a decision in mind so no1 cares wat u think. We care for the haq!

    • @mohamudahmed6554
      @mohamudahmed6554 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@muhammadabdulmateen8473 The haqq is with the Prophet ﷺ who told us to not rebel against the Muslim ruler *even if he oppresses us and takes our wealth* .
      You clearly don't care about the Haqq.

    • @muhammadabdulmateen8473
      @muhammadabdulmateen8473 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@mohamudahmed6554 context my dear context. Dont apply it to nation states. Doesnt work

    • @mvbeats4529
      @mvbeats4529 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mohamudahmed6554 Yes I understand if he's cruel and oppressive then u shouldn't rebel but is it the same as changing the law of Allah and making haram into halal. does the same ruling apply cuz these are very two different scenarios?

  • @salahaddeen1269
    @salahaddeen1269 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    In the beginning was the ruler and the ruler was with God and the ruler was God ... a qoute from the wahhabi bible

  • @Syed_12
    @Syed_12 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    ( Do Christians And Jews and "OTHER" non-Muslims go to Heaven? )
    Quran 2:62
    '' Those who believe (in the Quran) and those who follow the Jewish (scriptures) and the Christians and the Sabians->ANYAllah< Is The Protector Of Monasteries, Churches, Synagogues And The Mosques )
    Quran 22:40
    [They are] those who have been evicted from their homes without right - only because they say, " Our Lord is God " And were it not that God checks the people, some by means of others, there would have been demolished monasteries, churches, synagogues, and mosques in which the name of God is much mentioned. And God will surely support those who support Him. Indeed, God is Powerful and Exalted in Might.
    Note: Why did Allah protected Churches and Synagogues if they worship false Allah ?
    ( Why Are There So Many Different Religions In The World ? )
    Quran 5 48
    ''...... If God wanted He could have made all of you a single nation.( ie single religion ) But He willed otherwise in order to test you in what He has given you (ie Scriptures) therefore try to excel one another in good deeds. Ultimately you all shall return to God then He will show you the truth of those matters in which you '' >DISPUTE verb < not noun like other religions
    Islam mean "submission" to God
    ( The above verse saying is that God will not accept a religion from the >MUSLIM< and the Non-Muslims but total "submission" to God )
    Question: How Can Muslim And the Non-Muslim "submit" to the God?
    Answer: Be kind to other human beings and Do not lie, Do not steal, Do not cheat, Do not hurt others, Do not be prideful and Do the charity work.
    Note: If you obeyed all the ABOVE Allah-God's moral laws "YOU" submitted to God.( ie Islam mean "submission" to God )
    The only people who will enter Paradise those who '' Submitted to God '' ( ie by Good Deeds )
    God does NOT accept your religion of birth but only ''Your Total'' Submission to Him.
    ( God Allows Interfaith Marriages And Eat Food From the Christian And Jew And Vice Versa )
    Quran 5:5
    ''This day [all] good foods have been made lawful, and the food of those who were given the Scripture (ie Christian and Jew) is lawful for you and your food is lawful for them. And lawful in marriage are chaste women from among the believers (ie Muslim ) and chaste women from among those who were given the Scripture (ie Christian and Jew) before you, when you have given them their due compensation, desiring chastity not unlawful sexual intercourse or taking [secret] lovers. And whoever denies the faith - his work has become worthless and he in the Hereafter will be among the losers.''
    Note: > Only < Islam allows interfaith marriages (>14 hundredsSame God< but They are >ALL Corrupt< more or less, some more than others from their original foundational teaching. The older religion are MORE corrupted than newer religion.
    Question to Muslim and Christian:
    Does God / Allah only answer your pray ?
    And God / Allah does not answer non Muslim / non Christian pray?
    Did Allah '' Canceled '' all other religions Judaism and Christianity?
    Quran 5:48
    '' And We have revealed to you [O Muhammad] the Book in truth, confirming that which preceded it of the Scripture ( ie New and old Testament ) and as a criterion over it. So judge between them by what Allah has revealed and do not follow their inclinations away from what has come to you of the truth. >>>TO EACH OF YOU WE PRESCRIBED A LAW AND A METHODone nation>differ qualified < for to enter Paradise )
    On the day of judgement God will ''NOT'' judge humanity bases on Sunni Muslim sect VS Shia Muslim sect ''NOR'' by Muslim VS non-Muslim >but< Doer of Goods VS Doer of Evils.
    '' YOUR " birth in the Muslim's family is NOT a > qualification < for to enter the Paradise.
    '' YOUR " religion / sect / foot long beard is NOT a > qualification < for to enter the Paradise.
    The > qualification < to enter Paradise is > Faith in God and Good Work

    • @Mooshmomken
      @Mooshmomken 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      All these quranic ayas and you're still wrong. People who worship a man (Christians) don't worship God. People who don't belive in the here after and insult God (Jews) don't believe in God. Get your facts straight kiddo.

    • @nonai1831
      @nonai1831 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Have you read the first chapter of the Quran? Where Allah says we should seek from him not to be as the ones upon whom His anger(jews) and not the ones who are lost(christians)?

    • @Syed_12
      @Syed_12 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nonai1831 first chapter of the Quran did not mention word jews christians)

  • @yasfi5196
    @yasfi5196 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Believe it or not, quietism is quite effective in our country.. It's raised simpaticness from the ruler, so the ulama are able to approach the ruler and giving him the islamic advises, while the offensive way couldn't. Brilliant strategy tho..

    • @samy7013
      @samy7013 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Which country is that, if you don’t mind me asking?

  • @aaah8447
    @aaah8447 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It is irresponsible to criticize any of the current Muslim countries for not butting heads with the West when everyone knows the balance of power is not in their favor. Everyone has seen what happened to those countries that did, which resulted in their destruction, unending chaos, and the death and displacement of millions. Inciting that is practically the definition of “fitnah”. The wise thing to do is to focus on development, especially science & technology, which some Muslim countries have embarked upon, while playing the West’s game until such time the balance of power shifts. It may take a generation or two, but so what? The West didn’t overtake the Muslims overnight, and no rational person would expect the Muslims to retake the reigns overnight either. Anything else would be pure madness. Lastly, it’s unfortunate that the guest used the “Wahhabi” label repeatedly! This label is typically used by western media (and hostile non Sunnis) with negative connotations aimed really at discrediting salafi Islam. Great channel nonetheless.

    • @zohibali5606
      @zohibali5606 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have heard this explanation several times and it doesn't make any sense .
      The problem is that Muslim countries or the Muslims leaders have become the puppets of the west and are doing things to please them which is not good .
      Also Muslim countries are doing nothing to make progress in science and technology. That's is why critisizm of Muslim leaders is fair .
      Just look at the Saudis they have trillion dollar worth oil reserves and yet they are not fighting for ummah they killing Muslims in Yemen .
      And making alliances with the west.

    • @zohibali5606
      @zohibali5606 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The balance of power will not shift in Thier favor on its own.
      They will have to make efforts for that . Which they are not doing .

    • @KnowledgeNorth
      @KnowledgeNorth 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      جزاكم الله خيرا

  • @ihab505
    @ihab505 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Once I saw "Yaqeen institution" written in the bottom at the beginning of the presentation, things shifted. Seeing the deviations in conduct presented by their leaders residing on the top level of their institutional hierarchy pyramid, it was an easy rare decision to let go of the interview.
    No offense intended and I barely know the guest but in this case it was a clear no for me.

    • @Mooshmomken
      @Mooshmomken 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Very scholarly of you my enlightened brother

    • @programferris1018
      @programferris1018 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So if you saw "Muslim Skeptic" you would have jumped to watch the interview right? At least now you can't blame people who express similar feelings as you but for others like Daniel khariji methodology when they come across it they don't even want to interact with it

    • @ihab505
      @ihab505 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Mooshmomken I usually like to be in charge of which schools I get to listen to, feed my knowledge thirst and education. Back at the most prestigious of Islamic educational institutions there is a famous proverb that states the following "morals before education" and to put it bluntly out there "Yaqeen's" LGBT moral standards along with anyone who is a part of it, do not align with my faith.

    • @osamasayed5929
      @osamasayed5929 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@ihab505 ​ I wish people who watch Daniel the greatest self-appointed "Islam Defender" and "Deviancy spotter" with no traditional nor academic Islamic knowledge (which is very interesting phenomena that has nothing to do with the Islamic tradition which is the very same thing that he claims to want to preserve lol) who shows a level of arrogance and lack of Islamic manners that actual learned scholars of Islam never have even 0.000001% of wake up from the hypnosis and zombie-consuming his claims that he spreads with the worst type of un-Islamic manners and the Fitna and disunity he causes amongst the Muslim community and stop repeating his claims without double-checking them for themselves (which is exactly what Allah commands us in the Quran).
      th-cam.com/video/WDbiV4VqEug/w-d-xo.html this is a video of the alleged LGBT supporter Omar Suleiman just a couple of weeks ago. Please tell me how on Earth can anyone claim that he supports LGBT as Daniel claims after watching this. So in-order to explain the above video in light of Daniel's claims either:
      


      1. Daniel is lying and intentionally mis-represents Yaqeen's institute's stance by cutting and pasting clips from here and there and being creative with making up a not so cool story about their stance.
      2. Omar Suleiman is a hypocrite.
      As for option 2. As Muslims we will never know what is anyone’s heart and Allah only knows. But the bare minimum is we must have Husn Zann towards our Muslim brothers which Daniel seems to never have towards anyone he labels “deviant” (how he gets to decide that in the first place given his Islamic qualifications and level of knowledge is a whole different discussion lol).
      As for option number 1. It is super easy to prove and for your info Yaqeen is the ex-employer of Daniel which disqualifies him from being neutral already. How ill he speaks about them and how obsessed he is about mentioning their name and what they do and didn't do and what they should have done/said and dedicating so many hours trying to “expose” them just shows how much of a personal animosity he is having towards them because if he ever cares about what matter which is the unity of the Ummah and what is required to do which is having Islamic manners, he would take down half of his videos.
      Pick your option. Mine is picked already.

  • @gzless6226
    @gzless6226 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    28:19 he actually lied against the prophet ,the prophet never said publicly!!

  • @maji9193
    @maji9193 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This topic is heart breaking. I don’t know if I can even continue watching, and I am on 6:50 !!. Allah protected the prophet from the jokers. But the jokers took back over, from the moment the prophet was in his death bed. Since then on, it is chaos all over again. The core of Islam was mutilated then covered with paranoiac rituals of performance. Should I continue watching this episode though very depressive?

    • @johnbrzykcy3076
      @johnbrzykcy3076 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm a Christian believer and this topic seems very confusing to me. Is "rebellion" a very important topic in Islam? Peace

    • @maji9193
      @maji9193 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@johnbrzykcy3076 All manmade systems are unjust, yet they insist to keep the peace. At any price! And because Islam is for all mankind, Rebellion is part and parcel of Islam. Islam encourages and calls for rebellion, peacefully as much as it can be, because it’s the only way to establish Justice. How else will it happen?? And if you see a place where there is a rebellion, know that the situation is not really that bad, and that there is still some sort of safety and security in the region, that people don’t fear for their lives as they rebel. However, In some states, Islamic or not,: where there is no Justice and no safety, there you won’t see anyone rebelling or disturbing the “peace” or even anyone daring to question the situation. Did I answer your question?

  • @barryirlandi4217
    @barryirlandi4217 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Played his hand far too strongly in the first few minutes.. Very disappointing take on a very important topic

  • @fahadi.s.j3133
    @fahadi.s.j3133 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dear Paul
    The lecturer reference to wahhabi state is unnecessary and demonstrates the lecturer’s biased attitude toward Saudi Arabia

  • @essabinjabr1570
    @essabinjabr1570 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did this so called scholar rebel against his yaqeen institute for supporting gay marriage? I guess he doesn’t think its corruption or evil. Brother Paul your channel is growing bigger by the day and people are easily influenced by anything these days. My advice is to choose better scholars to be your guests and stay away from these innovators. اسأل الله أن يهديني ويهدي الجميع