Fedex MD-11 has SLAT/FLAP ISSUES at Sydney | High speed approach
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ก.พ. 2025
- 12/MAR/2022
Fedex MD-11 performing flight from Singapore to Sydney was on final approach when the pilots requested vectors to troubleshoot a flap issue and declared an emergency due to the longer landing distance required.
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EVERY SINGLE TIME, i've always been so impressed by the calm professionalism of Australian air traffic controllers
They're always so reassuring too.
'Take your time. No rush. You're doing great.'
That's all the types of things I hear from them.
In fact I'm pretty sure this is the same guy who helped that student pilet land when his instructor passed out.
I deal with them during flight training. They are always professional
@@RLTtizME Think it's more the vegemite
@@glennwatson its the tim tams lol
If it’s the TimTams that do it YSRI could use a year’s supply! They’re always so cranky
Everyone was SO calm and professional… If you were just casually listening to ATC and didn’t hear the word “mayday” or the request for emergency equipment, you might miss that there was a serious problem. Glad they landed safely!
They are always calm all across Australia. Thats why we use Mayday mayday mayday or pan pan pan. instead of stupid declaring an emergency. It gets the message across clearly to all who may be within earshot of the atc radio. Hugely important. Fire and Rescue crews and airside officers etc would hear yhe mayday or pan pan and be given a few extra seconds to react and prepare. As well as flight crews ramp crews etc. I dont understand why americans refuse to use ICAO?
They've got Australian Bob Ross at ATC. Seriously, the guy was professional but also super calming, given the circumstances.
World class performance by both ATC and flight crew
Good to see it’s not just the x plane md-11 having issues
Lol
LOOOOOOOOOL
This was FANTASTIC to listen to! Everyone was on point, calm and focused. Great job all around!
Good calm work! ATC and Capt. are as good as it gets.
Top notch flight crew and ATC. As said, the MD11 isn’t that easy to fly even with all systems working normally.
Pfft and youve flown one to verify its hard to fly. Its not like its a sunderland flying boat...
Not true. The MD-11 is a very nice flying plane.
LOL ok dude.
MD-11 is a fine flying plane once you learn her quirks.
Says the GA warrior who probably can't make a single proper radio call
So professional across the board.
FedEx 9075, just let me know what you need. You’ve got all the time in the world, there’s steaks on the barbie, I can hand you a cold beer when you want it.
Wow, nice work all around!
Im surprised how calm these guys are!
Crew and ATC all professional AF. Brilliant to listen to.
@@RLTtizME Yes. 😳 I have a potty mouth.
Australian controllers are very proficient, polite. They are also follow the sterile rule, very operational focused. They do well in emergencies like this one. I deal with them a lot in my flight training and thankful they been able to deal with some of my horrid radio calls :)
Kudos to all for getting this airplane safely on the ground. Great professionalism all around!! 👍✈✈👍
director was friendly,love that man
So professional on both sides - just another day at the office.
Awesome crew, awesome ATC. Australians chill and professional as usual.
I personally prefer the dark radar, it doesn't hurt the eyes at night. Thanks for the videos!
This is what the real Australian radar looks like
So relaxed and calm it’s almost a non-event.
as we say in Australia ... "she'll be right"
The Australian controllers seem even more relaxed than the typical controllers.
Australians in general are more laid back.
It's all good mate 👍
@@RLTtizME Either not Australian or haven't had your morning middy yet...
Why do people get so worked up over such menial things like silly generalisations?
@@Hebdomad7 she'll be right mate, don't worry about him.
@R L T Dunno what you learned? I wasn't teaching anything lol.
But yea, wouldnt knock back a kanga sanga 😄
You guys should get some recordings from North Perry Airport (HWO). We have an angry controller there, he does a good job but its always angry, especially over the last couple of days it seems they are training a new controller so the stress level is high. They cleared someone for take-off twice while I was on short final.
Thanks VASAviation
Australian ATC is up there with US and Canadian ATC for accommodating any situation with the greatest professionalism and flexibility.
IMHO we have the best, most calm and controlled ATC in Australia
Exactly youd never hear some idiot ATC dick measuring with pilots like american ones do, Sterile enviroment, no time for faffing about its do the job and do it well.
A lot of our controllers have Airforce experience too.
I think you'll find many Australians and British ATC insulted being compared to US ATC :)
I do not understand that strange "decalare emergency". There are standards that SHOULD be used:
MAYDAY (x 3)
PAN-PAN (x 3)
This was a clear PAN-PAN.
They did go around and noted that some issue was with flight control, then just do a PAN-PAN directly. Everybody then knows that there is an issue and some extra care is needed but no immediate danger.
Exactly, its because either they refuse to do it, are entirely ignorant or just plain stupid.
Any airman that travels abroad surely has the intelligence to even briefly brush up on standard international aviation english. But hey thats merricah. Cant be taught.
That is also something that I find strange on this channel. Why are professional pilots so reluctant to use these standards? Because 'Mayday (3x)' or 'Pan-Pan (3x)' not only tells ATC there is something going on, but also everyone else on the frequency, who is then informed to keep the frequency as free as possible.
Yes, the ATC twice referred to it as a MAYDAY (2:23 "copy the MAYDAY" and 5:04 "MAYDAY acknowledged"). So even if the pilot wouldn't say it, the ATC certainly knew it was.
Just a Yank thing.
Yes I notices the Pilot using Emergency and the ATC/Tower translating to the international Mayday.
I like the VAS simulator.
Awesome work by everyone
Aussie! Aussie! Aussie!
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*No response, everyone detained in quarantine
@@pistonburner6448 haha so damn true. I still can't believe what happened down there!
@@randomvintagefilm273 I still can't believe you people swallowed all that rubbish hook, line and sinker. Don't worry, your "Dear Leader" will be back in the top job after 2024 and he will tell you exactly what to believe so you won't have to hurt your brain trying to think.
That thing must of came in like the space shuttle
The nation thanks you for your service 🇦🇺🇦🇺
This is the second I've seen with the same issue in last week
I'm not a pilot or have any knowledge. So does that mean that their flaps didn't work so they had to keep higher speed to prevent a stall? Is that the reason why they needed the whole runway?
They’re either stuck or won’t extend past a certain point, so the approach speed will be higher, hence they ask for the full runway.
Most probably the flaps didn’t deploy fully so they had to approach at a higher speed in order not to stall the plane. The MD-11 already has a high landing speed compared to other aircraft at full flaps so I’m not surprised they needed the full runway to stop in such a situation.
Pretty much, yeah.
Normally ATC expects aircraft to exit the runway at the first acceptable/appropriate taxiway. Asking for the full length is mainly to let tower know you won't be clearing where you normally would. This alerts tower to NOT to clear another arrival as close as normal; this helps avoid making following traffic do go-arounds. Additionally, a high speed landing can really heat up the brakes. The crew is preparing the tower to expect a slower taxi even after they are safely on the ground and still on the runway. 👍 Overheated brakes can start tire fires. 👎
@@RealMrCane You are almost correct. Max brakes can be used any time at the pilot's discretion when deemed necessary. The difference is that max braking is indeed hard on the brakes and the deceleration is very strong, so it makes for an unpleasant ride. Nevertheless they can be used without restriction whenever it's advantageous. In this case they are coming in at higher than normal approach speed, which will greatly increase the landing distance. Also the MD-11 tends to float a lot more during the flare when partial or no flaps are used. So by requesting the entire length of the runway, it allows them to possibly not have to use max braking.
I hope. VASAviation will be able to post the recoding of the flight that crashed in China
MD-11 is already hard to land!
Like landing a brick with wings.
Hey VASAviation, if you need some help on translating China Eastern flight MU5735, I can give you a hand.
Are there publicly available ATC transcripts/recordings in China as in the West?
@@KevBotM
Blancolirio has the Chinese, and several folks have translated. Essentially ATC calling and no response, and ATC asking other aircraft to call. They do, and no response on regular frequency nor on guard.
31,000 lbs of fuel for 1 hour, damn... does this sound right??? Even flying low and dirty that's a lot!
Must have been loaded quite heavy / close to max. payload. Looks like Singapore to Sydney would be close to its maximum range at that point, and about 260,000 lbs of fuel capacity total.
0+40, 1+00, what does that mean ? I can understand the latter after the pilot explanation.
Not a super common way to express it, but it sounds like they are referring to [hours]+[minutes] of fuel remaining.
Made no sense to me either. I imagine it is standard procedure for ATC to ask how much fuel is on board, just to make certain the pilots aren't going to try and land the world's largest flying bomb Maybe ATC didn't understand either, but the figures given were SMALL numbers (whatever units they were measured in) so ATC just kept his mouth shut and didn't hassle the crew.
@@oldcynic6964 Yeah, they asked again when the crew had some time, that's the right thing to do.
@@jayschafer1760 Make sense now, thank you.
I've heard this used in military aviation to give lengths of time, as already mentioned it's hours + minutes. It lets you specify times in a highly unambiguous way whilst staying brief, so long as the other person understands
how can i listen these records?is it available for every human being or just someone with permission
Who or what is "Director"?
that's the Director
It is the Australian term for approach control
The Director is one who directs.
Director frequency is only used at Sydney where they do parallel approaches. It is within Sydney approach and essentially gets the aircraft onto final approach. Australia also has regular approach control.
Nutellas not even australian you fool.
Only 40 min fuel remaining? Damn they run it tight w fuel!
Was that the "0 + 40 fuel" call? Minutes?
@@sagetx As I understand it, yes. "0 (hours) + 40 (minutes)".
You see? No yelling 'MAYDAY MAYDAY MAYDAY" to inform highly experienced ATC that you have an emergency. "Declaring an Emergency" and slapping 7700 in the box is perfectly fine.
Highly xperienced ATC actually acknowledges that they heard it's an emergency. So the highly experienced pilots don't have to keep saying it.
It's almost like a readback or something.
I do not think that "Declaring an Emergency" is appropriate. "MAYDAY" is to declare a serious risk to life or the aircraft, and IMHO, incorrect in this situation. A PAN call would have been better.
@@jetalse7974 It's a US-registered plane, and the pilots and airline are US, so they are doing the usual US thing of "declaring an emergency" instead of Mayday/PanPan. The Aussie ATC knew exactly what they meant, and probably wouldn't have done anything differently if they had declared a PanPan.
/Not saying that I like/agree with the US practice of "declaring an emergency" vs PanPan/Mayday, just that I don't think it's an issue most of the time, especially when ATC is decent.
@@jayschafer1760 exactly, either terminology gets the job done
Ah great, fedex making another countries airways unsafe with their poor maintenance record. Pilots cant even use correct ICAO.
MAYDAY....x 3
it lets EVERYONE listening know to prepare, thats other traffic, airport crews etc etc.
MAYDAY MAYDAY MAYDAY OR. PAN PAN PAN.... Why is that so hard?
Just out of curiosity. What is your background?
First