I have a vibration plate but put it away because of a major spinal fusion surgery. So be careful if your back is bad but you can sit in a chair and put your feet on it or sit on the floor to put your thighs on it. I just got diagnosed with lympha/lipa after 5 years of gaining 23lbs of water in a 4 day period when in a flare up. I finally got in a Lymphedema PT. Did 1 1 1/2 lymph massage and lost 14lbs in 2 days. I will be going 3 days a week.
Gina I support many with spine/back issues and seated is one way to use but understanding how ti modify setting is important too as you can reduce intensity in a few ways while getting more weight bearing and total body effect. See this channel for other videos, I have a support group for those dealing with lymphedema/lipedema and other related disorders you are welcome to join facebook.com/groups/797095057690948
Hi Vivienne! Was my pleasure :) I have been fortunate in my tine in the machines to connect with some amazing people. Karen I met first time at FDRS in Houston a few years back!
I've been using a Chi Machine and it has been working, it is a figure 8 motion/vibration and fat less lessened. I do it twice a day for 15min each time.
CHi machine is a good way to get lymph etc moving for sure. They don't offer the weight bearing/exercise gains that a vibration plate can, many in my group use both.
Thank you for this. I try so hard to be consistent with compression, my vibration plate, my pump. Looking for supplements to help. It is all so overwhelming.
TO target these areas you can do upper body positions like modified pushups and some sit on the plate and rest hands on plate to increase stimulation there. I have a facebook group that supports use facebook.com/groups/797095057690948
Hi Christine yes on Amazon inf your are in the US they have some bg sales on direct with the company also. Recommend a basic oscillating machine their Waver a good choice and fairly portable. If you want more features the Rumblex Plus a good choice but a little bigger and heavier depending on your plans for use.www.pntrs.com/t/TUJGR0lOSkJHSEVITkZCR0ZNRUVO?url=https%3A%2F%2Flifeprofitness.com%2Fcollections%2Fvibration-therapy
Some Weeks ago I read somewhere in the internet about vibration as one possibility to slacken the fat when doctors do a liposuction. So I started some days ago to try this with my beurer MG 100. It is not optimal to handle but the only vibration device I have. When I see, that you have experiences with vibration and lipedema so I could try it with a more useful device. Is such a vibration plate really powerful enough to vibrate the whole leg? Isn't it better to use such a chi machine because it works directly at the leg (or perhaps the arms)?
I have many users that use prior to surgery for this and to help manage a variety of symptoms. The massager you have and the chi will help but not in the same way as a vibration plate that you stand on, bearing your weight, this also activates muscles groups and will get more done is much less time than the massager or chi machine. Use what you have regardless as this will all offer positives. If you have lipedema, lymphedema or another related fat disorder I have a group on facebook for support in using these devices you are welcome to join facebook.com/groups/797095057690948
@@debbypelletier Thanks for your quick response. This will help me to decide to buy a vibration plate. I hope that I need not an expensive one. Two weeks ago I decided to switch from keto to almost carnivore. I feel better and I hope it helps too.
@@pingupingu3327 you don't need a fancy one with lots of options. I recommend oscillating movement, the Waver mini (weight capacity is 280lbs) from Lifepro for an affordable home machine. If you need something for balance place by the back of a couch, kitchen island whatever balance improves quickly. They have a good sale on right now www.gopjn.com/t/TUJGR0lOSkJHSEVITkZCR0ZNRUVO?url=https%3A%2F%2Flifeprofitness.com%2Fproducts%2Fwaver-mini-vibration-plate
Thanks, unfortunately this plate is more expensive for me in germany. But I will find one. I often go by bicycle, have to walk in my job. So for me such a plate only will be for vibration and slacken the fat and reduce it - I hope. I think I have good muscles.
I think you’ve just explained what’s wrong with my legs!!!!! I have a percussion massager. Would it help to use it on my thighs? And arms? (I also have severe knee arthritis and can’t walk to exercise. I also have scoliosis. Are we thinking there might be a connection , maybe some type of connective tissue disorder?
Hi Joanna :) thank you for watching. Many in my group use percussion massage and guns. There is a different approach to using it I recommend see this video th-cam.com/video/AYrTkhMHJAQ/w-d-xo.html
Depends on plans for use Mo. There are different types of plate movement and withing that there are medical and consumer grade plates. I recommend oscillating movement as it most mimics or natural movement of walking but with less impact. I review a few different models and features in this video to help decide whats best for your needs. th-cam.com/video/yT1qPJlYRCU/w-d-xo.html&lc=UgyjXyftzApf2I-Vo214AaABAg
@@debbypelletier I have been diagnosed with Dercums disease if that helps at all. Not waiting for doctor recommendations because they don’t seem to know much about the disease and just referred me to surgery if I wanted lipomas removed. Other than that, they were like good luck with that.
Nor sue if you are a member but I have a large group that supports DD and other fat disorders. If just looking basic lymph and to manage symptoms the Waver is a popular model without breaking the bank. Feel free to join our group on FB is not a member facebook.com/groups/vibrationforfatdisorders
Not a black and white answer Margie. Varies between insurance companies as does your plan and what it may cover. There is no code per say for a vibration machine, it is simply an environment you perform therapy or exercises on. SOme hae gotten help thru insurance but you will need a supporting letter in most cases from your Doc or PT. Could be for in home therapy, exercise, balance training etc driven more by what you are using it for. As you are commenting on Dr Herbsts video you are likely aware of Lipedema. This is a similar example as even though it now finally has a standard of care outlined, the medical world still often does not recognize or acknowledge it. If you are not a member of my Facebook group may be of interest th-cam.com/video/c5BxgjoQtAs/w-d-xo.html
You would have to ask elsewhere sorry not my expertise. I know some do treatments but this will not offer the same benefits I am discussing here. Here's a site www.lipedema.com/#join
I just received my Life Pro Waver vibration machine from Amazon. It was recommended by Sturdy Woman, who has a channel helping women with lipedema because of her success! Hopefully it will help me - it’s expensive, and heavy, but I am giving it a serious try! I am also starting back with my high quality rebounder - good for the lymph system. Good luck!!!
Hi Sharlyn I recommend a few types. Boils down to your plans for use, I recommend oscillating movement and Lifepro if in the USA. If wanting something you can move around and basic operation go the Waver or Mini. If wanting more features and dont need to move around as much I recommend the Rumblex Plus ir the Rumblex Max models for their flat surface. FYI LP has a big sale on still up to 20% off direct with them in US www.pjtra.com/t/TUJGR0lOSkJHSEVITkZCR0ZNRUVO?url=https%3A%2F%2Flifeprofitness.com%2Fcollections%2Fvibration-therapy
The only thing you can do that might cause you to lose weight without starving/damaging yourself is to avoid sugar (fructose) in candy and sugary drinks and eliminate processed Omega 6 seed oils. Cook/bake everything from scratch using butter, lard, coconut oil, or any other mostly saturated/mono unsaturated fat. The problem with olive and avocado oils is that most of it is adulterated. If you have been dieting a long time, it will take years for you to eat normally without binging. The only cure for starvation is time and a really lot of food.
No sure what you are asking me Susan Are yo trying to email this to someone? This is the link th-cam.com/video/ikMXoCxrslE/w-d-xo.html&lc=Ugwr7nB2hKSx7LPEpAx4AaABAg
My apologies for my rambling, perhaps it was nerves. Sorry it wasn't to your liking appreciate the feedback. If you are dealing with a related disorder feel free to join my group for more support facebook.com/groups/797095057690948
Oh, come on. These weight loss vibration gimmick machines have been around for over 60 years. My parents had one that I played with as a child. Theirs had a belt that you could use to supposedly vibrate the fat off your midriff. All it did was make you itch/stimulate circulation. It was a convenient coat hanger in their bedroom. They finally ditched it when they retired and moved to Florida long ago.
Completely different thing than the shaky machines back in the 60s Robin which cases back issues for some. I have a group with 8000 people related to these conditions and another 4000 that use for pediatric exercise and have used them for over 15 years personally. No miracles yo need to put in the time and do the exercises but the machine reduces impact and time spend doing.
The misinformation by the govt & medical industry in regards to healthy food choices, obesity & the importance of fat, has been a complete mess for decades. I now understand my mother has been deaing with Lipedema her entire life. Chronic pain, many weight loss attempts, injuries to knees, back. She was they only obese child in her family. Huge rear end, bat arms, tummy apron, heavy thighs & knees.. classic. I now see me in all of this, my daughter & my 8 yrs old granddaughter! My granddaughter is very thin, but she also has hyper mobility & terrible natural muscle tone / connective tissue. So much of this makes so much sense. I despise obesity glorification, but the demonization of healthy food fats & the role body fat plays in the body has been terribly misguided.
1000% agree wells said, so many deal with these conditions and with possibly 1 in 8 having a related disorder it's as common as diabetes! Please feel free to join our group for related info and support :) facebook.com/groups/vibrationforfatdisorders
@@debbypelletier Crisco came out as a butter alternative in the very early 1900s. From there the engineered margarines, corn oils, etc, etc were touted as better for you than butter. I can remember the push in the 80s when restaurants dumped tallow & lard for seed oils. It's in everything. Then, you mix those toxic oils with grains & sugar... Ug.
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I have a vibration plate but put it away because of a major spinal fusion surgery. So be careful if your back is bad but you can sit in a chair and put your feet on it or sit on the floor to put your thighs on it. I just got diagnosed with lympha/lipa after 5 years of gaining 23lbs of water in a 4 day period when in a flare up. I finally got in a Lymphedema PT. Did 1 1 1/2 lymph massage and lost 14lbs in 2 days. I will be going 3 days a week.
Gina I support many with spine/back issues and seated is one way to use but understanding how ti modify setting is important too as you can reduce intensity in a few ways while getting more weight bearing and total body effect. See this channel for other videos, I have a support group for those dealing with lymphedema/lipedema and other related disorders you are welcome to join facebook.com/groups/797095057690948
@@debbypelletier thank you 🥰
Thank you Debby and Karen. Very interesting video.
Hi Vivienne! Was my pleasure :) I have been fortunate in my tine in the machines to connect with some amazing people. Karen I met first time at FDRS in Houston a few years back!
I came across this video and I can't thank you enough because I feel there's hope. Lima, Lima, and lessons mobility due to MS episode are no joke.
love this discussion, thank you
Appreciate that so much! Hope you can use some of it for your own self care :)
I've been using a Chi Machine and it has been working, it is a figure 8 motion/vibration and fat less lessened. I do it twice a day for 15min each time.
CHi machine is a good way to get lymph etc moving for sure. They don't offer the weight bearing/exercise gains that a vibration plate can, many in my group use both.
I'd get a vibration plate but have a bad knee and think I'm asking for trouble with this machine. @@debbypelletier
Thank you so much for this video!!!
Thank you for this. I try so hard to be consistent with compression, my vibration plate, my pump. Looking for supplements to help. It is all so overwhelming.
Diane please feel free to join my group if not already a member facebook.com/groups/vibrationforfatdisorders
The supplements Dr Herbst recommended works great
@@debbypelletier…..What if we are not on FakeBook, and never plan to be for personal reasons? Is there another way to be ‘connected’?
I agree it's very overwhelming
Wonderful information! How do you reach arms, arm pits, etc?
TO target these areas you can do upper body positions like modified pushups and some sit on the plate and rest hands on plate to increase stimulation there. I have a facebook group that supports use facebook.com/groups/797095057690948
I knew there had to be something to warming up👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Great reason to use the machine!
Can I buy this vibration machine on Amazon. I’m stage 2-3 lipedema
Hi Christine yes on Amazon inf your are in the US they have some bg sales on direct with the company also. Recommend a basic oscillating machine their Waver a good choice and fairly portable. If you want more features the Rumblex Plus a good choice but a little bigger and heavier depending on your plans for use.www.pntrs.com/t/TUJGR0lOSkJHSEVITkZCR0ZNRUVO?url=https%3A%2F%2Flifeprofitness.com%2Fcollections%2Fvibration-therapy
What climate is best for ine with Dercum's disease?
Some Weeks ago I read somewhere in the internet about vibration as one possibility to slacken the fat when doctors do a liposuction. So I started some days ago to try this with my beurer MG 100. It is not optimal to handle but the only vibration device I have.
When I see, that you have experiences with vibration and lipedema so I could try it with a more useful device. Is such a vibration plate really powerful enough to vibrate the whole leg? Isn't it better to use such a chi machine because it works directly at the leg (or perhaps the arms)?
I have many users that use prior to surgery for this and to help manage a variety of symptoms. The massager you have and the chi will help but not in the same way as a vibration plate that you stand on, bearing your weight, this also activates muscles groups and will get more done is much less time than the massager or chi machine. Use what you have regardless as this will all offer positives. If you have lipedema, lymphedema or another related fat disorder I have a group on facebook for support in using these devices you are welcome to join facebook.com/groups/797095057690948
@@debbypelletier Thanks for your quick response. This will help me to decide to buy a vibration plate. I hope that I need not an expensive one.
Two weeks ago I decided to switch from keto to almost carnivore. I feel better and I hope it helps too.
@@pingupingu3327 you don't need a fancy one with lots of options. I recommend oscillating movement, the Waver mini (weight capacity is 280lbs) from Lifepro for an affordable home machine. If you need something for balance place by the back of a couch, kitchen island whatever balance improves quickly. They have a good sale on right now www.gopjn.com/t/TUJGR0lOSkJHSEVITkZCR0ZNRUVO?url=https%3A%2F%2Flifeprofitness.com%2Fproducts%2Fwaver-mini-vibration-plate
@@pingupingu3327 here s my short how to get started video for insight. I am using the mini in this video. th-cam.com/video/OXZTvQvB5_Q/w-d-xo.html
Thanks, unfortunately this plate is more expensive for me in germany. But I will find one. I often go by bicycle, have to walk in my job. So for me such a plate only will be for vibration and slacken the fat and reduce it - I hope. I think I have good muscles.
I think you’ve just explained what’s wrong with my legs!!!!! I have a percussion massager. Would it help to use it on my thighs? And arms? (I also have severe knee arthritis and can’t walk to exercise. I also have scoliosis. Are we thinking there might be a connection , maybe some type of connective tissue disorder?
Hi Joanna :) thank you for watching. Many in my group use percussion massage and guns. There is a different approach to using it I recommend see this video th-cam.com/video/AYrTkhMHJAQ/w-d-xo.html
If you are on Facebook I invite you to join facebook.com/groups/vibrationforfatdisorders
There are many WBV machines on the market it looks like. Are some better than others?
Depends on plans for use Mo. There are different types of plate movement and withing that there are medical and consumer grade plates. I recommend oscillating movement as it most mimics or natural movement of walking but with less impact. I review a few different models and features in this video to help decide whats best for your needs. th-cam.com/video/yT1qPJlYRCU/w-d-xo.html&lc=UgyjXyftzApf2I-Vo214AaABAg
@@debbypelletier I have been diagnosed with Dercums disease if that helps at all. Not waiting for doctor recommendations because they don’t seem to know much about the disease and just referred me to surgery if I wanted lipomas removed. Other than that, they were like good luck with that.
Nor sue if you are a member but I have a large group that supports DD and other fat disorders. If just looking basic lymph and to manage symptoms the Waver is a popular model without breaking the bank. Feel free to join our group on FB is not a member facebook.com/groups/vibrationforfatdisorders
Does insurance ( retirement) pay for the vibration plate?
Not a black and white answer Margie. Varies between insurance companies as does your plan and what it may cover. There is no code per say for a vibration machine, it is simply an environment you perform therapy or exercises on. SOme hae gotten help thru insurance but you will need a supporting letter in most cases from your Doc or PT. Could be for in home therapy, exercise, balance training etc driven more by what you are using it for. As you are commenting on Dr Herbsts video you are likely aware of Lipedema. This is a similar example as even though it now finally has a standard of care outlined, the medical world still often does not recognize or acknowledge it. If you are not a member of my Facebook group may be of interest th-cam.com/video/c5BxgjoQtAs/w-d-xo.html
Can ultrasound help too
You would have to ask elsewhere sorry not my expertise. I know some do treatments but this will not offer the same benefits I am discussing here. Here's a site www.lipedema.com/#join
I've just found this video. Where can you get a vibration machine? Is there one brand better than another? Thank you in advance.
I just received my Life Pro Waver vibration machine from Amazon. It was recommended by Sturdy Woman, who has a channel helping women with lipedema because of her success!
Hopefully it will help me - it’s expensive, and heavy, but I am giving it a serious try! I am also starting back with my high quality rebounder - good for the lymph system. Good luck!!!
Hi Sharlyn I recommend a few types. Boils down to your plans for use, I recommend oscillating movement and Lifepro if in the USA. If wanting something you can move around and basic operation go the Waver or Mini. If wanting more features and dont need to move around as much I recommend the Rumblex Plus ir the Rumblex Max models for their flat surface. FYI LP has a big sale on still up to 20% off direct with them in US www.pjtra.com/t/TUJGR0lOSkJHSEVITkZCR0ZNRUVO?url=https%3A%2F%2Flifeprofitness.com%2Fcollections%2Fvibration-therapy
I invite you to join my group for support in using it for these conditions facebook.com/groups/797095057690948
The only thing you can do that might cause you to lose weight without starving/damaging yourself is to avoid sugar (fructose) in candy and sugary drinks and eliminate processed Omega 6 seed oils. Cook/bake everything from scratch using butter, lard, coconut oil, or any other mostly saturated/mono unsaturated fat. The problem with olive and avocado oils is that most of it is adulterated. If you have been dieting a long time, it will take years for you to eat normally without binging. The only cure for starvation is time and a really lot of food.
Thanks for your information.
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Thank you for watching :)
Can not transfer to standard email Why?
No sure what you are asking me Susan Are yo trying to email this to someone? This is the link th-cam.com/video/ikMXoCxrslE/w-d-xo.html&lc=Ugwr7nB2hKSx7LPEpAx4AaABAg
Sounds like she's interviewing herself, if only she could shut up an interview her guest and let her, be the one to share her information.
My apologies for my rambling, perhaps it was nerves. Sorry it wasn't to your liking appreciate the feedback. If you are dealing with a related disorder feel free to join my group for more support facebook.com/groups/797095057690948
Wow-- that's just such an ugly comment!!
Oh, come on. These weight loss vibration gimmick machines have been around for over 60 years. My parents had one that I played with as a child. Theirs had a belt that you could use to supposedly vibrate the fat off your midriff. All it did was make you itch/stimulate circulation. It was a convenient coat hanger in their bedroom. They finally ditched it when they retired and moved to Florida long ago.
Completely different thing than the shaky machines back in the 60s Robin which cases back issues for some. I have a group with 8000 people related to these conditions and another 4000 that use for pediatric exercise and have used them for over 15 years personally. No miracles yo need to put in the time and do the exercises but the machine reduces impact and time spend doing.
I use mine to improve circulation, not fat loss... I feel it does help.
Not similar in the least.
@@bambismomkelly7423 This is not for fat loss, it is for circulation and lymph flow.
The misinformation by the govt & medical industry in regards to healthy food choices, obesity & the importance of fat, has been a complete mess for decades.
I now understand my mother has been deaing with Lipedema her entire life. Chronic pain, many weight loss attempts, injuries to knees, back. She was they only obese child in her family. Huge rear end, bat arms, tummy apron, heavy thighs & knees.. classic.
I now see me in all of this, my daughter & my 8 yrs old granddaughter!
My granddaughter is very thin, but she also has hyper mobility & terrible natural muscle tone / connective tissue.
So much of this makes so much sense. I despise obesity glorification, but the demonization of healthy food fats & the role body fat plays in the body has been terribly misguided.
1000% agree wells said, so many deal with these conditions and with possibly 1 in 8 having a related disorder it's as common as diabetes! Please feel free to join our group for related info and support :) facebook.com/groups/vibrationforfatdisorders
@@debbypelletierwhich is a direct result of our food supply. I honestly believe crisco plays a huge role in this.
@@azsunburns anything made with canola oil for sure and almost everything is!
@@debbypelletier Crisco came out as a butter alternative in the very early 1900s. From there the engineered margarines, corn oils, etc, etc were touted as better for you than butter. I can remember the push in the 80s when restaurants dumped tallow & lard for seed oils. It's in everything. Then, you mix those toxic oils with grains & sugar... Ug.