Drinker's Chasers - Why Did The Fall Guy Flop?
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- It's a film that seemed to have all the ingredients for success, and yet The Fall Guy opened well below expectations and is on track to be a box office flop. So what happened, and what does this mean for the summer movie season?
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"Fall Guy" is not an original IP, it's a tv show from the 80's.
And that's the problem why would you make a movie based on IP from 40 years ago? It's bizarre too me
Because they have zero creativity. They'd rather pay for the rights to a familiar name than try to come up with an idea. They're too lazy even just to steal an idea and file off the serial numbers.
@@docsavage8640 And it wasn't even a good or memorable show, except for the blonde woman who was in it.
thank you. I watched it. It was a great show
Plus it's mediocre movie.
Drinker showing his ‘youthfulness’ by not realizing this movie is NOT original. Those of us who live through the 80’s remember ‘The fall guy’ TV show fondly.
It is entirely possible for an American tv show not to be shown in Scotland.
@@donkeysaurusrex7881it was, I'm in Scotland and it was shown across the entire UK in the. 80's, back in those days there was only 4 TV channels and I remember when Channel 4 Launched 😂
As a 46 Year old Englishman, I'm amazed and worried that the panel thought it was original IP
@@oukie666 I stand corrected. You sir have earned my upvote.
I lived through the 80s and wasn't aware of this show.
'Superhero fatigue' has metastisized to 'Hollywood fatigue'.
I just finished the film and it's not even that good. Predictable with tiny women beating up men.
I don't know who is going to pay theater prices for this when they can just wait a little while and watch it at home like I did.
Woke fatigue. Why are people so scared to admit it’s all about the woke. Woke riding. Woke producers. Everyone is scared to push boundaries. So much stuff is off-limits now. Everything has to be Girlboss or water down. Even stuff made for adults we have to pearl clutch and pretend likekids might be watching so we can’t be too. It used to be no limits in Hollywood and that’s what we love. Woke people came and ruined it. Now there’s quotas on what ethnic people you put in your movie or else you can’t win awards.
Pretty much. I just don't trust them anymore, and I won't spend any money or time on a movie until someone I trust tells me it's worth seeing.
Part of the problem is there are so many other ways to entertain yourself these days. If I don't watch anything coming out of Hollywood I can watch Japanese anime or Korean dramas. Or I can play video games. Or TH-cam videos. Or I can watch old movies on a streaming service.
If you go to a burger joint and 9 times out of 10 you get a bad burger, you stop going to that place.
And this was a bad burger. It was like the Notebook with some action scenes and petite women beating up men. I think the people liking this film are feminists who want a hot guy to fall in love with them
I think this clearly indicates just how much audience goodwill Hollywood has burnt through.
I still like Hollywood though
@@Rotom0479
Awesome!
A lot of people don't, clearly demonstrated by low audience participation across multiple entertainment metrics.
@@grandmufftwerkin9037 That's their fault.
I think your right about this. It used to be when you asked, "Do you want to see a movie?", the default answer was yes; now the default answer seems to be no. When you hear a movie isn't 'woke', you still ask, does that mean it's only slightly progressive instead of absolutely insane? Also, I feel like a lot of women went into Barbie thinking that it was a romance and ended up feeling betrayed, so now just because a movie seems to be a romantic comedy, there's no reason to think it will deliver.
@@grandmufftwerkin9037what do they want fuck ? That movie was great fun I enjoyed it even went twice to see it
I think it’s an easy one word answer: budget. Why does a generic action comedy cost 140 million? Make it for 50 and you wouldn’t even be having this conversation.
Its time to start looking for stories instead of showing us special effects that distract from the terrible stories. The original Mad Max cost $400,000 to make. It brought in $100 MILLION. Why? Because it was a pretty good story. Not the best story, but a decent one.
@@jefferydraper4019 mad max 2 had great characters and acting. great action set-pieces, well filmed, some quote-able moments (Nobody beats the snake!).
while 'mad max 1' was campy and fun, it was not the things 2 were. 3 was, well an 80's hot mess, but it had a few moments.
Yep, it's a combination of over budgeted films and prices to see things. There's a TH-camr, Friendly Space Ninja, and on his video about the flops of 2023 blockbusters, he explained how if you were to go for a weekend with a significant other plus popcorn, a drink, and candy; roughly $60. Every weekend for a month; about $325. Back when I was a child, we didn't go to cinemas all the time, just some of the time. We did, however, go to Blockbuster or Video Depot or Hollywood Video all the time. Rent like 1-5 movies maybe a video game or two, come back to return rentals and check something else out.
There is absolutely no way that this movie needed anything more than 80 million
Hire not Ryan Gosling, don't buy IP for namedrop only and you could have made the same movie for 50million and make success and more money on sequels.
Why'd it flop? No one wants their favorite childhood TV shows reinvented for "modern audiences." C'mon man, that's one of your catch phrases.
The premise of the TV show was simple, Hollywood stuntman leverages his skills to moonlight as a bounty hunter. Cool truck, hot sidekick, that's all it needs to be.
This one wasn't reinvented for modern audiences the way Hollywood/Disney normally reinvent things like this for modern audiences. There were no signs of "the message" anywhere in this movie. It was just a simple dumb action movie, with a very predicable story. I was shocked actually. I was expecting the Fall Guy to be recast as the Fall Black Lesbian Wahman who drives a Vespa.
Because like it or not, the demographic that makes "action movies" successful is teen boys, and teen boys are not going to turn out in numbers for Ryan Gosling or Emily Blunt.
And not for a love story.
The movie was predictable and there were petite women beating up men. I think this movie is for feminists who want a hot guy to fall in love with them.
It's wild that "This movie doesn't hate me" is a notable quality of movies these days.
This is probably the core issue Hollywood has, far bigger than a sleuth of bad writers or an economic downturn at the wrong time or even streaming. People tend to avoid haters once they recognize them.
Even then you have to squint. The movie might (or even probably) hates you anyway, it just hates you sneakily.
Rubs hands together.
It's hilarious to me they tried to get the 1980s nostalgia audience after Hollywood spent the last several years making sure we knew how much they hate middle aged white people.
Poorly written movies that insult the intelligence of the audience-most Hollywood product- is a form of hating the audience.
Hollywood just needs to stop chasing the “blockbuster”. They need to learn to make less expensive movies. They’re now just using expensive effects to cover for crap writing and poor story telling.
It can no longer be called a blockbuster if no one goes to see it, the term 'blockbuster' was made because of the massive lines of people wrapped around the block waiting to get in the theater, again it's pretty antiquated because of reserved seating
Hollywood are doing too much stimulants. Seriously 2 out of 3 people are on an ADHD drug it seems. Especially in the entertainment industry. It makes them scatterbrained and unproductive.
Oppenheimer and Barbie audience is not the normal market place. They are an older market that stopped attending.
Their business model requires the movies to be expensive. They're trying to keep the price of entry so high as to ward off competition. It won't work. We'll be able to make pretty good movies on our phones at this pace. Have you seen those fake 1950s trailer of versions of popular newer IPS? Pretty fantastic and it's only going to get easier for ordinary people to do this soon.
@@Art-is-craft With Star Wars, etc. Disney flat out wanted that older market to stay home. For super hits, you need to bring in everybody. Imagine if in the 1980s the Rolling Stones said, "we want a new audience and to shed our 1960s and 1970s fans". Absurd. Instead, they went from a really good band to monsters of rock. Get that new audience but try to keep the old.
Because Ryan Gosling is no Lee Majors. When you think "tough guy, bad-ass" Ryan Gosling is not the name that springs to mind.
Nor was Lee Majors!
@@nigelwitgunn3406For a second I confused Lee Marvin with Lee Majors...whoops, big differnence.
@@RantTheRetort oh yeah, one of them can act.
Even less so after getting bitch slapped in Barbie
Yeah Ryan Gosling is still just Ken
For this film to flop, a few factors have come together:
1-Ticket prices are too high for most
2-Streaming has become so popular and mainstream that it is an easier alternative for most.
3-As Little Platoon pointed out, blockbuster films dominated previous years, but smaller films did not. Now we have almost no blockbusters, the lack of money the smaller films make is more transparent.
4-There is still a cost of living crisis for some. Entertainment is the first thing to be cut out of any income.
5-the advertising was weak. I heard of the film but I thought it was coming out in the latter half of the year, not now.
6-Hollywood Studios destroyed the Movie-Star. They made sure individual actors or actresses no longer had the power to carry a film. And now films are suffering for it.
When do you think that Hollywood destroyed the movie star? The 2000s?
@@AlexJaneson I want to say no...but considering the franchises that rose in that decade, I would say so. The Star Wars Prequels, Harry Potter, Sam Raimi's Spiderman, even Lord of the Rings-people did not go to see them because of the actors and actresses.
And when Studios realised they could get away with millions without a big star, just a recognisable name, that was it.
At the very least the 2000's laid the foundations. Then the 2010's came along and that was the death-knell.
@@TheRandomViewer-zv4bv Yup, and now they’re in a pickle since the franchises aren’t doing as well as they were in the past two decades, and they haven’t developed any movie stars younger than 50.
There is just no reason to watch movies at the theater anymore. 1. You can have a large tv with surround sound at home for a reasonable price. 2. You can buy your own popcorn, drinks and snack at the store and 3. you don't have to worry about annoying people being on their phone.
There really is no good reason for normal working people to watch movies at the theater anymore.
@@ADanZLife I agree. Especially because the price of large TVs has made them impulse buys for almost anyone. You can get a 75 inch TV for less than $500 USD.
The Fall Guy was a TV series from 1981 till 1986. They even had the old Chevy truck in the movie, along with a modern version.
They did change the core elements though. Series: Focus on his side job as bounty hunter. Stunts scenes are more like the c-plot. Jodie is his assistant, not his love interest (to my knowledge). Don't get me wrong, that makes it still somewhat of a remake and not an original IP.
To me this is somewhat similar to The Equalizer. TV series with an older white guy from the 1980's (thanks to Stacyhamilton2619 for the correction), and now a fantastic Denzel Washington. But I would recon it has not that much to do with the original.
Lee Majors
Okay and? The point stands there was zero marketing or draw to get customers to go see this, wether they saw the original in the 80s or didn’t.
@@n0punint3nd3dTry an edit where you google the decade the Equalizer is from. I reckon* it's the 80's like The Fall Guy.
@@lawrencetalbot8346
AND, he is correcting the mistake made by Drinker. Dick.
You can't capitalize on 1980s nostalgia if you've alienated the actual people who liked the show in the 1980s and told them to eff off.
Very true. I grew up watching this tv show. But with how all the movies and shows are going and ruining Characters I grew up watching and pretended to be. It's just not something I want to see them ruin again.
I think that was their biggest problem here...just what you state. They pissed too many people off, hence low sales for that 80s nostalgia, which this is clearly trying to capitalize on. I think throwing two big stars in for a "big draw" was another mistake, because all that did was drive up the budget, due to their salary command, for no return, because that same wary public didn't bite, and now you've compounded the mistake with higher cost, and low sales, makes it a "flop." Too bad, because generally, I would totally watch a Fall Guy movie co-starring Emily Blunt, in a normal world.
@@jeffreyboyer3714I don’t think they’re trying to capitalize off it, I think they’re trying to ruin it.
C'mon, let's be honest...The Fall Guy TV show was never a show that folk got nostalgic about. It's not Dukes of Hazzard, Starsky and Hutch, The A-Team. Its not even Manimal or Blue Thunder! So, there was no 80's market to capitalize from.
Tell that to Stranger Things.
I'm sick and tired of "reboots" of original and beloved TV series and movies. By now I resent these "Products" so much that I flat out reject all of them without exception. Sorry if Fall Guy is decent (the cast is o.k.) but I simply won't deal with this unimaginative crap any longer.
It's because nobody wants to see a bad comedy movie disguised as an action movie that doesn't know what it wants to be. People just want actual action movies, masculine movies, high testosterone movies. Things like that. The Fall Guy clearly was trying to be a comedy movie and although I like comedy, I don't necessarily need a ton of comedy in my action movie maybe a little bit to lighten up the mood, but I think we all like the raid and John Wick for reasons, and the Fall Guy clearly was trying to be something that appealed to a weird demographic of people that wanted more comedy than action and I almost don't know anybody who's into those type of movies.
You got it. After I saw the trailer my first thought was, "I have no idea what this is." It presented no hook.
It's not an original IP. The Fall Guy was a TV series from the 80's, staring Lee Majors as Colt Seavers, as well as Douglas Barr and Heather Thomas. Fun series.
It was a classic. Who can forget the Lee Majors theme song eh
Heather Thomas in the bikini in the opening credits man. I lived for that scene every week
Also had Markie Post before Night Court
It basicly is an original IP because it was from the 80's ! the only people who are going to remember it are those of us over fifty years old !
@@carlrood4457 She was hot, too
I think Hollywood has given the middle finger to large portions of their audience, and people aren’t as interested in what they’re doing.
Hollywood is not making movies with American LowBrow Hero. Fall Guy and Gentlemenly Warfare, Canadians and Brits or european characters . Gosling literally is pretty boy who does hair, not a low brow hero.. And he's not a pushy womanizer, he's not a Burt Reynolds of Stallone, he's a nice Canadian... No movie has a bad boy hero, who fights the system to get rich and bang, it's meek men which is fine but not true escapist.. it's not important but middle class won't support stuff where main character ain't a real rebel who flips off the system.. and Fall Guy with Canadian and Brit shows wow they are not willing to even employ Americans yet wonder why public feels uninterested... Emily Blunt we all know is genius but we want a slutty actress who can barely read as our fantasy... True cheesecake. ..... True zero artsyness...
It's hard to take your girlfriend to see a movie when most women would rather be alone with a bear and you therefore don't have a girlfriend. I think that has a bigger impact on certain movies than we think
Exactly... the trailer was in the realm of a movie they could bait me with. Can't take the chance
@CMCAdvanced ????
Bingo! It's a toxic ex trying to lure you back into the manipulation, and alot of us have simply moved on. Video games are RIGHT behind them
Ryan Gosling is not a believable replacement for Lee Majors.
They needed a man who can be believed to be a stuntman and a bounty hunter, neither Gosling or Cruise would fit this role a no name would have been better!
The trailer for “Fall Guy” killed the movie’s prospects: When Emily Blunt said she wanted to slap Gosling’s character and he responded that he would welcome that. Middle America is not ready for that in a mainstream movie.
LOL. Yeah, but that is the MESSAGE, hidden, but there.
Colt Seavers Simping Over an Obnoxious Girl Boss.
That's the Whole Movie.
@@richardtracy8242 Not really. Most of it is an ode to males who are fighting in the background, even risking their lives...to make sure females fulfill their dreams.
Non-Woke (non-narcissist) Females love the reminder that it's men who do the dirty work, while the girl feels sorry for herself.
The karaoke section captures this perfectly.
What a great movie.
Oh how we've missed proper fun action movies like this gem.
Boxoffice Says Exactly How People Really Felt About The Fall Guy.
Nooo. I mean you're right. Didn't even see the trailer yet (not from US). Only a few minutes ago found out that this is about Colt Seavers. But this kills my excitement.
1. It's a known IP by people born before the 90s, but it has nothin to do with the original series...
2. Stars no longer get people in theaters...
3. Movies are too costly, there's now little chance to make its money back...
4. The movie tried to pull a Mr. & Mrs. Smith, but that has nothing to do with the original series...
5. Fans will only go to watch their favorite IPs in cinemas, the rest will only go if it's a worthy experience to leave the house...
6. Poor marketing...
7. Not a memorable movie, why would anybody recommend it if they forget it as soon as they leave the theater...
wow - yes x7
Exactly
*add tickets are too expensive
But yeah I saw absolutely no reason to go see this. To me, this was just another of those endless movies that I never knew existed until someone on TH-cam talks about it.
5 is huge for me. Last 2 times I went to the movies was dune 2 and dune 1
Woodrow Wilson had double as many the points as you do. But WW1 was an original IP. I'm sure if he had survived until 1945 he'd have whittled his down to seven as well.
every movie that comes out is filled with absurdism, extreme CGI stunts and over the top humour, set pieces and props. I honestly think people want something more grounded in reality.
Very true. In the past, physics defying action only took place in movies that had an explanation for it, like The Matrix. Now, movies are filled with CGI generated action scene that defy the laws of physics and are completely unbelievable.
Have you forgotten the entire era of action movies? I don't think anyone imagined those were 'realistic'.
F*@k's sake... I just want a movie that doesn't seem like it was written by a 15 year old with head trauma & a political agenda. Is that so goddamn much to ask?
this movie was a lot more grounded though
@@jackflash8218 I have to say, even from some recent friends who watched The Fall Guy, they said it was "okay" but had a general "who asked for this" type of feeling. It's like Pixar/Disney's films, or recent blockbuster video games, where a lot of the characterization and plot and mechanics feel like ticking off boxes. AI Generative models can tick boxes. But when people hear a "Nolan" film, they know it's a film from a particular person's mind. A human mind, rather than that from a content/product machine. Maybe this will be the difference between AI art and human art. AI's can't recreate our minds (yet), nor can they recreate the time period, the *dynamic* states of the mind, the culture an artist is in that forces them to produce work. I remember Lucas saying that he was going through a divorce or something while writing Temple of Doom, and that he believes that influenced its tone in comparison the first Indi film. Maybe this is what is missing from today's media, and people can intuit this.
Why did it fail? People can smell a gold-digging attempt from a mile away. Especially those from the 70's and 80's. They haven't done a good one yet. A-Team, Dukes of Hazzard, Magnum Pl, Starsky and Hutch, Beverly Hillbillies, Baywatch, Brady Bunch, etc. We loved the originals because we got to know them over a few years. Trying to capture an audience that originally took years to capture, in a 90-minute film, is nearly impossible. You cannot avoid the comparisons.
Plus, when the TV shows were on, the humour wasn't completely based on sex, which most remakes are. Pathetic, low-hanging fruit, and Gex X demands better.
As a Gen-X'er I approve this message. I did not go see A-Team, Dukes of Hazzard, Magnum PI, or many of the other remakes because the few I did watch were horrible. The cool thing is that streaming has allowed me to go back in time and enjoy the originals whenever I want. I have no desire to see a poor quality substitute. Now if there is a remake with many of the original characters, and they can give it the original vibe, then maybe I would be interested. Lee Majors did not look like he lived in the gym, he seemed like an every day guy, that was just tough, and fearless. I'm sorry but Ryan just looked goofy and not really interesting when I watched the trailers.
Who would've thought a movie about a stuntman based on a tv show from the 80s no one under 40 remembers wouldn't make the 300-450 million needed to turn a profit? I'm shocked! /s
It is amusing that Hollywood is rebooting ips so old and obscure that even pop culture analysts don’t realize they are reboots.
In this case, this is more of poor reflection on the analysts than it is on Hollywood. The Fall Guy is far too well known for Drinker (who did a review on it), not to know. It is even worse that the panel didn't either.
At the end of the day, this particular panel knows Disney, Timothy Chalamet , and Lady Gaga movies. Really need Baggage Claim, Nerdrotic, and Echo when talking about other areas of entertainment.
@@jeffhartley7548 The Fall Guy TV show REALLY isn't as well known as you think. As I said before, no one I know who is a regular moviegoer or TV buff knew what it was. The only person I know who's heard of it is my 70 year old mother. I can list a ton of US TV shows that were popular in the UK in the 80s but I can't even find anything online to say which channel screened The Fall Guy here, whereas I can with plenty of others. I would go as far as saying Prisoner Cell Block H (the old Australian prison drama) was more popular over here and that was screened in the late night slot after 11pm in most UK regions.
Also the film barely gives any indication its based on an old TV series.
@@jeffhartley7548damn you just dissected this entire channel
@@djgeneralbounce respectfully, just because your circle of friends doesn't know The Fall Guy doesn't mean it isn't well known in entertainment circles.
I can easily find people that have never heard of Dr Who, LA Law, or Battlestar Galactica. That doesn't mean they aren't well known.
Again, check this very comments section where others in the UK have stated that they know it well.
Regardless, it is clear that the studio made this film because of its notoriety. For the panel to discuss the film and not know that is sad and embarrassing.
@@jeffhartley7548 The Fall Guy was such a hit that even in Venezuela where i'm from anyone who lived through the 80's remembers Lee Majors as Colt Seavers in "Profesión Peligro" which was the name of the show in our language.
The public is worried about paying the bills not enriching Hollywood. Screw Hollywood.
Im sure that won’t matter for Dead pool
@@kicknowledgesmith8608 yeah, you're very likely correct. Speaking only for myself I just don't care. I'll just wait till I can buy it at Walmart in the discount bin for five bucks.😂😂
@@kicknowledgesmith8608 DP 2 was horrible.
@@greggibson33 No it wasn't. It wasn't as good as the first but horrible it was not. plus, this will have Wolverine and other cameos, it's going to make a lot of money, No one will use the streaming and being broke excuse for that film. Everyone went to see Barbie, Oppenheimer, Mario, and Spider verse, no problem. Fall Guy looks like the typical Netflix movie.
@@kicknowledgesmith8608while you are correct, everyone did not go and see those movies. I still haven’t seen them, lol
I feel like a core problem here is that the question "why did The Fall Guy flop" is being asked from a perspective where success is assumed.
The best you get when explaining 'here's why it should have succeeded' are all generic answers at best, but nothing that explains "why this movie in particular should have succeeded that couldn't be copy+pasted onto another generic movie.
Start of the summer movie season? Economy is bad and banning audiences from attending theaters broke the habit of seeing them.
Ryan Gosling? Not the pull you think he is.
'Four Quadrant Movie'? It is rare that those actually succeed, more often than not those try to please everyone but instead please no one.
Doesn't hate the audience, doesn't push 'THE MESSAGE'? As Platoon noted, that's not really a positive selling point, it's just what the baseline should be.
The question here shouldn't be 'why did The Fall Guy flop?'. The question needs to be asked 'what specific reason should this movie in particular have had for succeeding?'.
I know your comment is old but I want to point out something I kept hearing from Drinker that seemed so obviously wrong. Most Marvel movies are "Four Quadrant Movies" anyone tired of the Marvel formula would have no interest in this movie, that alone is enough to kill it.
It was the fact that with the 2 trailers I saw they were on opposite ends of the ESG DEI spectrum. And they led with the trailer that made it look like the typical "Waman" in charge and great, man beneath her, and yet he treats her like she is everything while being treated like crap back from her. So it instantly made me go "nope clearly not for me". Then the second trailer came out and it seemed like something 15 years ago might have been worth watching for dumb fun. But when you combine the 2 trailers together who knows what they movie actually is and we are all done with the bait and switch. So no one watched cause no one knew what it was.
EXACTLY. The whole MOVIE was like this. Popcorn action crime caper poorly attached to a romcom written by a blue hair softly stroking her cooch while banging out Ryan Gosling fanfic.
The trailers cratered it for me. Can't quite figure out why they signaled "Give this one a pass" Maybe too all over the place, but with an assumption that you got to love Ryan Gossling just because....
As someone who grew up with "The Fall Guy" I was excited when I heard there will be a movie. Then I saw the first trailer. And I was like "What?". A friend of mine thought the same. Then I watched the movie. And it is not "The Fall Guy". Not one bit to put it very blunt. So I guess other fans of the original show weren't all to happy about the movie as well. And these fans were the first ones to watch the movie because there are fans already. And all they got was "The Nice Guy". And another thought: Maybe a lot of men didn't go to watch the movie because of Ryan Gosling and his involvement in the Barbie movie. Maybe they were/are thinking Ryan Gosling is doing Ken again in "The Fall Guy". And he did (to a certain degree).
Yep, no reason for the film to be in anyway connected to the old TV show. It was only a few trivial elements they co-opted, so why not just drop those and call it something else?
They completely changed the background for “Colt”’s character, if he should even be called that. Lee Majors’ take on the character of Colt was well-seasoned, witty, adaptable, and resourceful. Gosling, whether of his own volition or the writers, comes across as incompetent, rather dim, and out-of-his-depth.
The trailer turned me off to it when I saw a woman basically telling Gosling's character something along the lines of how nobody will remember the stuntman.
Really? You just said this to a guy played by Ryan Gosling who still retains his looks. They want to have Colt's character come off as an everyman, and yet they cast Gosling to play him. 🙄 (Maybe if we were drinking the bong water that might fly)
How out of touch is the production to not only leave that line in, but to put it in the trailer?
Most of this spot on. I think Gosling has all of the acting capability to be the Fall Guy, but instead they didn't make that. It was masculine Ken, not his fault, but go look at Burt Reynolds in Hooper and tell me how cool THAT guy was as a stuntman, and how silly this character was. He wasn't deciding to be daring, he was forced to....meh. Not the Fall Guy.
@@zachbrins00 Like all the white men are depicted in Hollywood nowadays.
There's a perfect storm: The film-writing is terrible. Politics has invaded everything so now we've become hyper-aware of any hint of "the message." Hollywood has repeatedly told men how much they hate them. The films show their disdain for men which makes movie-dates not something men will organise. Many people now despise the media for many non-media issues, because of the way the industry behaves. Video games are massive and women are amused by social media/casual games so that they are never faced with looking for something to do. The political divide between male and female teens is destroying dating. Home TVs have are huge and home sound systems can shake the floors, providing cinema experiences at home. Cinemas have been destroyed by lockdowns. Lockdowns have trained people to stay home. Studio streaming services lead to expectations that big-screen films are just a few months away from cinema releases. Inflation has made people poor. Bingeing numbs people to excitement around video. TH-camrs are providing excellent entertainment. Budgets are so large that making a profit is difficult.
The quick releases to streaming have always puzzled me. Back in the early days of VHS you wouldn’t get a release of Commando at your local rental store within a month or two of it’s premier, so you knew you had to see it in the theater or wait for a very long time. Streaming releases should be held at least 3-6 months from the time a movie exits the theater.
But I guess the medias main goal now is to build their streaming revenue. I know it’s a big focus at Warner-Discovery.
Because it was Ryan Gosling cosplaying as Lee Majors's Fall Guy, and making it funny.
The problem I see these days is that Millenials and Zoomers have a tendency to make fun of what came from the past instead of actually understanding the mindset of those who lived back then.
So TV series like The Green Hornet, The A-Team, and The Fall Guy are remade into action comedies instead of action films with a good bit of comedy.
You can't say the fall guy without me hearing "cause i'm the unknown stuntman...', whilst Lee Majors smokes a cigar in a hot tub.
Fall Guy was a chick flik disguised as an action movie, and everyone knew it. And Fall Guy IS NOT an "original IP". Dude, that was my fav show as a kid.
Done watching Hollywood anything. Sick and tired of woke garbage and ain’t interested to find out whether new movie is or not. Keanu I will watch. That’s about it.
Me too...I'm off to watch some clips of it now. We don't want or need Hollywood...we've effectively put them in economic timeout😂
That had nothing to do with it. Cinema is dead.
@@rbu2136 I wish but I watch more movies than these guys. Movie theater is my chill place. And there's okay stuff here and there. Abigail was decent. Ungentlemanly was fun. 🤷♂️
@@BumfluffAddlepate I still went. I'm not schilling but there's cheap monthly movie passes. Regal's deal is way better than AMC but at $25/month unlimited, walking out on crap is not a biggie.
Fall guy flopped because it cost to much to make. Movies like Fall guy used to come out all the time 20+ years ago. The difference is they would cost 40-50 million to make. They would gross 150-175 million worldwide and make a small profit then release on home video and make more profit. Hollywood is killing itself with bloated budgets and streaming services.
Very true
Remember 2nd run cinemas? Those cheap ticket Cinemas that played movies that were a few weeks or months old. I had one near me growing up where the tickets were 1$, and I practically lived there as a teenager. Movies back then had a much longer run, Jurassic Park, The Crow and Pulp Fiction were still screening in the cinemas a year after their release, even after the home video releases. That's because watching a VHS tape of a movie on a blurry square TV screen was vastly inferior to watching a film on a cinema screen.
This remained the case until very recently, with affordable 4k tvs and projectors (my cinema actually advertises 4k projection- same as my living room)😂
These days it seems like a faff to go to the cinema especially when I know the movie will be streaming in 4 weeks, maybe less!
But what those cheap cinemas offered that has been lost is a place to get away for a few hours when you don't want to be home but you also don't want to be social. And they instilled in me a love for movies because I would see anything at that price, and sometimes I would be surprised. That is something that Hollywood has lost.
@@nobobynnobody We had a dollar theater about 30 minutes from where we lived. As teenagers me and my friends would go there quite often to watch multiple movies in one day. I remember that some movies would get a fairly sizable bump in the box office when they went to the dollar theater.
They could learn a lot from Godzilla Minus One
People have had enough of their memories being ruined by modern trash. Avoid anything these people make.
Certainly for my generation, "the fall guy" was an eighties tv series. Whether it is or not, this thing reeks of remake, and we are done with those. That's why it flopped.
We also find Ryan Gosling tedious.
as someone who grew up and loved the TV show, the reason I have no interest is because the star of THIS movie looks nothing like the fall guy. If the hero looked or had the same vibe as Lee Majors Id see it. But this actor looks more like Howie the costar of the origanl.
I also blame Netflix for The fall guy failure. Netflix has completely turned these types of films into “steaming” movies. Audience can’t see them has anything else. People saying Hollywood is dead….a bit exaggerated, it’s these movies that dead on the big screen
There have been a lot of *steaming* movies in the last few years! 😏
Gary from Nerdrotic keeps talking about it.
Freudian slip there with the "steaming" comment - or "A" level trolling.
Good point. That's what this looks like, a generic action comedy along the lines of what Netflix has been churning out for the last 5 years, and it's hard to justify paying to see in the theater what you're now used to seeing at no extra cost at home.
Netflix, Disney and Warner broke movie theaters together.
Fall Guy is a remake of the Lee Majors TV show.
Can't wait for Mr. Majors to save Santa
No. It used the name, nothing else
@@cromcccxvi3787Ryan's Colt Seavers character name, the truck, the post-credit cameo by Lee Majors and Heather Thomas, sound effects from the TV show....yeah, it's a remake.
@@jacksprat232 it didn't need to be though did it? It could have been called The Stunt Double and had a different character's name for Gosling and it would have made no difference. Studios seem to think that remakes like this will appeal to older viewers but they don't. People who have fond memories of a show from decades before are unlikely to be attracted to a movie that is markedly different.
It would likely make the movie more attractive to those potential viewers if they'd had Lee Majors appearing as Colt Seavers Sr in a couple of scenes with Gosling's character being his son.
@@jacksprat232
Oh wow, I didn't know it was Colt Seavers. I watched this a lot as a child.
I think people are much more interested in watching the hollywood trainwreck rather than the movies themselves.
It's yet another example of Hollywood "reimagining" a beloved TV property and making it unrecognizable to the fans of the original. Why are you surprised it failed?
1: movies have too much competition today (TH-cam, TikTok laziness, ect)
2: we’ve been trained to just wait for movies to get on streaming services
3: it might be just me, I didn’t even know the movie was coming out 😂
I've never seen a single ad for this movie.
As a 46 Year old Englishman, I'm amazed and worried that the panel thought it was original IP
Same here. Except I‘m not even from an English speaking country, and still The Fall Guy was my everything as a kid. Along with The A-Team and Riptide ❤️
@@BumfluffAddlepate Yeah, _Cody_ and _Nick_ will be replaced with two chicks, _Candy_ and _Nickie_ , but _'Boz'_ will still be a a geeky dude.
only people above 45-50 have heard of it, this "IP" really has no value nowadays.
@@feandil666 bollocks. Look at the demographic and reputation of the panel. They should all have recognised the original TV show.
The future is ours old man.
There is no Heather Thomas. Sydney Sweeney should of been casted.
Fall Guy was an old TV show staring Lee Majors and Heather Thomas. And people aren't going to movies good or bad anymore, because we just don't care. Hollywood is dead, and we have books.
The original Fall Guy (Lee Majors) was a tough guy/ man’s man. I didn’t understand them casting Gosling in this role being that he’s the same guy who played Ken in a Barbie movie, so he’s basically a pretty-boy type. I think someone like Alan Ritchson or Tom Hardy would have been much closer to the original character.
Alan Rickman would need to return from the dead for that first
I'd cast Tom Hardy over Pink Ken and Jack Reacher. Tom is by far the most talented.
Lee has a cameo in it!
@@paulibaer_206 He said Alan Ritchson not Alan Rickman.
Kurt Russell could do that 20 years ago.
Fall Guy was a TV show in the 80s. This still counts as a remake.
I hope the tv show was better than this stupid movie.
Did no one here ever see the Fall Guy show with Lee Majors and Heather Thomas? Mr. Burnett, not even you?
Mild criticism for the panel here not recognizing Fall Guy originally aired as an 80s TV show...especially since that has been the go-to formula for Hollywood in current era.
Ryan Gosling is no Lee Majors
Ooh, that's mean...
@@richardmcenroe2582it’s true. Lee had a tough Marlboro man look. Gosling, even in action roles, does not exude machismo. Charm sure, but not machismo. Honestly Gosling would have been better as Howie Munson with someone rougher playing Colt.
But honestly I can’t think of a male actor in the 30-40 year old range that fits the bill anymore.
Why did it flop? For my money, I'd say 'Ryan Gosling'. Can't stand that tosser, and I'm not paying money to see him fall. Delighted to hear his movie flopped, though. No fault of Emily Blunt, she's excellent.
@@samcoll3273 but he's you...
@@samcoll3273 Well he's f-ing brilliant in this movie.
I'll never try to find flaws in him again. His comedy timing is on point.
What a fun clever movie this is.
It's a pity people are so paranoid and biased before diving in.
It flopped because people just aren't worried about movies right now. The economy is tanking and the world is in turmoil. Even when people do have the money and time, there's a million different things you can do with that time and money now. Movies have to compete with streaming (themselves), video games etc. The pie is getting smaller.
Actually it's the exact OPPOSITE. The majority of people see movies to escape their everyday turmoil as shown by Barbenheimer's gigantic success.
The thing is half the movies today are lectures about how bad the audience is, and not fun escapism.
@@RenlangRen I suggest taking a break from The Drinker's videos. 🦜
Half? Not true at all
The movies are shite. Plain and simple.
Agree that the only actors that draw people to theater would be Tom Cruise, Ryan Reynolds & Denzel Washington.
This movie IS still one of the problems, it's an old IP trying to worm it's way back with "hot stars". Fall Guy was a subpar TV series in the eighties, think MacGuyver lite, and if no one really cared about it then, why the hell should we care about a rebranding of it now.
The 90s would have been the perfect time to make a Fall Guy film. Enough time would have passed for fans of the show to still remember it and it would fit perfectly into the over the top 90s action scene. Maybe that’s what happened, somebody had this script lying in a drawer for 30 years?
I believe that is the case
Possible. There's a lot of scripts like that right now.
You could not make it in the 90s without it being steeped in irony. Think The Brady Bunch Movie.
Not more like the early 00s? That’s when Three Angels for Charlie happened and was quite successful.
@@ronwoodhouse2896that would be amazing
The "CHiPs" remake about a decade ago should have been warning about how deep the T.V. I.P. barrel really was.
They are going to cast Will Smith and Martin Lawrence in a reboot and call it "Chocolate CHiPs".
Same could be said for the 2006 "Miami Vice" remake film... should have been left in the drawer or burned the script before it got made. Cheers!
@@themittonmethod1243Hey, the Miami Vice movie was good. Rewatched it recently, and it still holds up.
Yeah, but the CHIPS movie sucked.
I'm gonna laugh my ass off when they try to make a movie reboot of a 50 year old tv show that got cancelled halfway through it's first season... cuz you know that's not far off. 😂😭😂😭😂😭
The problem with the Fall Guy is encapsulised in the song. First they waited for the end credits to play the song and reveal the important cameo. And then they didn't sing the whole song. They left out lyrics like "I'm not the kindto kiss and tell but I've been see with Farrah" and "I might jump an open drawbridge or Tarzan from a vine. Cause I'm the unknown stuntman who makes Eastwood look so fine."
Now I get why they left out those lyrics Because they are dated references to the stars of the time of the show, some of whom are dead. But that's also how the song shows the problem with the movie. It's not the same. The Fall Guy wasn't a love sick puppy. Something was missing.
'Crime caper' is the problem. Stuntman as bounty hunter was the concept; and they threw it away of course.
This movie isn't an original IP. It's based on a five season TV series from the 80s.
The fall guy flopped because it’s an above average movie at best, Hollywood has completely destroyed any goodwill we had toward them, and movies are so expensive now that if we’re going to pay money to see your movie, it better be good.
The marketing for the movie was horrible.The few ads I did see for this movie made no sense and gave me no idea if this was a movie I'd be interested in. What's it about? What genre? If a movie can't convey it's identity in a trailer it probably doesn't have one
Yes, as someone else pointed out above is that this flick is a reboot of a fairly to better 1980’s TV show. It starred Lee Majors maybe should’ve stuck with show’s premise rather than rewrite.
It's simple, people now expect bait and switch. We wait for people we trust to tell us if it's good or not.
Inflation and Taxes have made pirates of us all
I would like this comment, but I don't want to be on (another) watchlist. Oh, I probably shouldn't hit the reply button on this either.
Just be happily surprised that utube didn’t shadow ban or outright delete your post.
Yep, market purchasing power. Although I'm sure the nearly across-the-board dive in product quality certainly isn't doing them any favors either.
Yo ho ho, we took a bite of Gum-Gum.
Inflation affects those of us with lower income
The problem is that they tried to please everybody instead of picking an audience. Ryan Gosling isn't the tough guy that will draw an audience. He looks like a generic knockoff of an action star...with a healthy dose of soy boy. The original star of the old school fall guy tv show (Lee Majors) actually fit the tough guy action star aesthetic. Emily Blunt is likeable, but just likeable isn't going to bring in the paying audience for fans of the action movie genre. What would have worked is if they went out of their way to ramp up some sex appeal in both male and female leads...but they absolutely won't do that anymore...at least not for hetero fans. Imagine if they had a Kate Beckinsale/Megan Fox/Sidney Sweeney type female lead without downplaying the appeal? Imagine if they had whoever would be the new younger equivalent of a Lee Majors/Harrison Ford...without downplaying the appeal? The marketing is generic and relatively absent on purpose, because they don't want to pick an audience. If they picked an audience, they would have to acknowledge the demographics of the paying audience.
I looked horrible. Same movie we've been watching for a decade (big budget, too much - unnecessary - action, too many - unnecessary - explosions, etc). Obviously, nobody wants to watch these movies anymore. I'm impressed that people who make movies (and hundreds of thousands or millions), are not seeing this. Big budget 90s movies (T2, Jurassic Park, Men in Black or The Matrix) were great movies with amazing stories and characters. The VFX effects served the story (maybe the last part of T2 was too much, but it was wow back then - still is). And of course, he had Home Alone, Forrest Gump, Pretty Woman, The Lion King, Aladdin... great, beautiful stories. I think most of us, (still moviegoers under 50), are desperate to find a movie we actually want to watch on a movie theater. I used to find (at least) one exciting movie a week. Now, I'm lucky if there's 4 movies a year I'm excited about.
Excessive advertising and loss of classical tv networks have killed the studio's ability to advertise movies. I hadn't even *heard* of this movie. Probably because I mute and look away from any advertisements because there are so many that they got on my last nerve. Five advertisements for 11 minutes of content is obscene.
It's gone beyond "paying the bills" to "we can occupy 89% of their visible field before they have seizures".
I only heard of it because this channel mentioned it a week or two ago. Terrible marketing.
Sounds like you just need to adapt
I saw a ton of commercials for it on TH-cam. Looks great.
@@Rotom0479No. Companies that have products to sell need to adapt. Consumers have no responsibility to purchase a product over any other and modern corporations seem to have forgotten this.
Edit: On the chance you meant "adapt" to mean just block ads I totally agree lol.
@@donkeysaurusrex7881 I saw them too, thought it looked dumb.
i can literally get the UK blu-ray of any new movie for the price of a movie ticket. i just have to wait a few weeks after the movie's theatrical release, which is not a problem. then i own the movie, i can watch it in my home cinema as many times as i want, without any risk of assholes ruining it for me, i can pause to go pee or get more snacks or beverages at supermarket prices, i can have my dog next to me on the sofa, i don't have to drive anywhere or wait in line... so i've basically stopped going to the cinema. not because i don't value movies, but quite the opposite. i value movies so much that i don't want them ruined by morons in the cinema anymore.
Going to the cinema is a part of the experience though
That's just depressing.
@Rotom0479 used to be. Until people became overwhelmingly rude or just annoying. The last movie I saw in theaters was Deadpool and it was a terrible experience. Ryan Reynolds could say the word "the" and everyone would lose their minds laughing.
@@wesbrannick8269 Well, you'll just have to put up with them then.
I agree 💯 percent the public space is no longer safe or fun
What I want, as a consumer, is a movie that has a good plot and entertains me for 90 to 120 minutes. There is an added bonus if it challenges me to think about what it was all about. Resonance… I guess.
I’m burnt out with all the cgi/explosions/shallow plots/hollow acting.
The Thing is a great example - To this day… I still think and ask whether Childs was it at the end.
Nowadays, everything is canned and forgettable. Why waste money on something forgettable?
The biggest issue is the film is just basic, not special. I was going to go with a friend and when their schedule changed I thought “is this worth heading out for without friends” and answered no.
It's simple. With the cost of tickets these days, if your interested in going to see a film you choose the One you want to see that month. You can't afford to go and see a movie every week anymore.
Every month? More like a handful every decade.
Totally on point. A couple of days ago I was in Los Angeles for a funeral and the person most affected by this said to me afterwards, “I need to get away for a few hours, forget about about everything for a while.” So I said, “Why not catch a movie, I’ll pay.” So I got out my phone and asked my cousin what he wanted to see. Dune 2 was still playing and he told me he hadn’t seen it and I said going to great movie that takes place on another planet is a perfect almost 3 hour distraction. I paid for two seats for a matinée, and the discount rate for a weekday was $16 a person and to get popcorn and a soda for 1 person was another $21 or $22.
With prices like that a movie has to be a special event for me to go see it. If I hadn’t been doing a good deed by taking my cousin to a movie, I wouldn’t have paid those prices to see anything new, like The Fall Guy. The trailer for it looked very generic to me.
@@Kwolfx Gotta get out of L.A.
@@Kwolfxboy your popcorn is expensive. It's not where near that much here in the UK. Although when i do go to see a film, I don't bother with the drinks and popcorn. Just the movie tickets.
@@kevinpike4459 - I didn't buy the popcorn, I was just checking prices. Hot dogs and chips cost $20, nachos cost $16 and a Coke or other soft drink by itself was $10 as were boxes and bags of various types of candy.
The only discount was the theater validated my parking which saved me a great deal as it would have cost $10.70 per hour before 4pm and $2.70 an hour after 4 pm. This was at the Regal Sherman Oaks Galleria in Sherman Oaks, California. So, at least I didn't have to pay for parking.
Did you know that it’s not an original IP, but based on an old TV show?
Mid 80s action shows apparently don’t have a lot of staying power for some reason. Mid 80s action cartoons do though.
Fall Guy without Heather Thomas? That’s where the conversation needs to begin and end.
Thank you Robert. Dead Reckoning was awful. As someone who loved Fallout, DR was a slap in the face that assumed its audience had a room temperature IQ.
It's a "Hollywood movie about making movies", which comes out of Hollywood about once a decade, and rarely succeeds. Not because they're bad or badly made, but it's only relatable to the tiny group of who make movies. Sometimes they do OK, but they're not blockbusters and shouldn't be treated like one.
The only notable exception was Tropic Thunder, and that was a hero-less movie that ruthlessly eviscerated every aspect of Hollywood. It went so hard on the satire, it dodged the usual "honest guy in the middle of craziness" the genre usually employs.
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood did well too
No one has any expectation of any movie to be good. They've given up.
They've put the industry on mute. How many times can they get you excited about an IP you liked and they destroy it until people have NO interest even getting excited about it. "IP Mining" - Bob Iger
If I had to hazard a guess as to why the movie flopped, it's probably because when the average moviegoer hears the title "The Fall Guy" they immediately think of the old '80s TV show & think, "Oh, it's just another dumb remake. Pass..." People are tired of remakes, reboots & re-imaginings. They're tired of warmed-over old leftovers, regardless of who's starring in them (since, as discussed, "stars" as such don't really seem to matter that much anymore anyway) and want something _new._
They broke the formula of the original show. The adventures depicted in the show were centered on Colt's and Howie's adventures as bounty hunters -- their side gig because doing stunts didn't pay enough. And then Colt cleverly working in his abilities as a stunt man to solve his cases and a sprinkling in of movie magic and trickery to achieve his aims. Jody was also a competent stunt woman able to keep up with Colt.
Ryan Gosling's depiction of Colt is not clever. He unwittingly stumbles in and out of situations as he goes. And he's not yet a bounty hunter -- he's only a stunt man. In some ways, the movie ends up feeling like a prequel in this way. You can imagine by the end of the movie that he may go on to become a bounty hunter.
The writers got too caught up in turning the title into a pun for the plot, focusing on romance where the original didn't, and dumbing down the hero.
Well said!
Besides actually good films, what we want is to not spend $40 for 1 ticket, a small drink, and a small popcorn.
Do you live in a city? Everyones talking about these super prices but my small-ish city is still at 10 bucks a pop
@@spacemanspud7073 My small-ish town that is NOT the case. Also all the cheap theatres closed so you have to drive further to pay more at the remaining theatre. Why? It's cheaper and nicer to wait for it to come to blu-ray or streaming. I can pause it, eat whatever I want drink however much I want without having to worry about driving afterwards. And that's before you take into account the horrific woke content and nonsense in most movies. Just because someone on the internet swears it isn't woke means nothing, been duped too many times. They've really dug themselves a hole, even the idea of "but if you don't support them, there'll be no new content!" Who cares? The new content blows, I mostly watch old stuff anyways which, thankfully, much like books, there's a DEEP back catalogue to mine at this point.
Don't buy popcorn and soda the
Smuggle in a flask full of moonshine for a better experience.
@@spacemanspud7073 I agree. The cost aspect is being exaggerated a bit. There are some places for sure in Manhattan or San Francisco that are that expensive, but for most of the rest of the country (including major cities) is about $12 to $20 per ticket.
The high side of that is still a bit much, so it does eliminate viewing films on a whim.
Everyone's broke, not risking $40 on something that has 80/20 chance of making me mad.
Much to hollywoods detriment you can always go back to the classics
lol or the product is just crap nowadays.
Just out of interest, what is just the price alone of a prebooked movie at a quiet time of day? Because I can't believe Americans have to pay $40 for a ticket alone! Who would spend even close to that?
I feel all remakes/reboots are intended to dislodge the nostalgia anchor, so that the ties to the old world are broken. Surprised this one didn’t include a gaslight campaign too
The fall guy isn't original if its based on the TV series from the 80's.
Original in that it is not part of a franchise.
@@Art-is-craftthat’s the problem just make a new movie that hasn’t been made before. It’s not that hard 😂
@@oessh9611
A Star is Born in 1954 was a remake of an older movie. As was Scare face. The problem is not that the fall guy was a 40 year old tv show but more to do with the fact cinema is dead and Hollywood is finished. We are watching the last days of cinema.
The lyrics to the original TV show are a podcast in themselves...
Check it out! 😂😂😂
When you're more likely to get disappointed by watching new movies, you just stop going. I just collect old movies now and when there is a good film once in a while I pick it up a lot later down the line when the general impression is locked in stone.
"Ryan Gosling is my favourite actor" said by nobody ever.
Thats a lie. Hes a great actor for both Blade Runner 2049 and Nice Guys
Most people probably won't remember the old TV series from the 1980s.
I think it’s less about the movies being made and more about people don’t have money to go to the movies anymore. Going out to a movie is almost a luxury now with 3 years of crazy inflation
💯💯 who wants to pay all that money for a bad movie
I think this is the biggest reason out of everything mentioned. You can get a great TV for the price of one trip out to the theater, so streaming is better for most people and more affordable.
Exorbetant movie tickets and high concession prices is what kills it for me. And, they couldn't find someone like a Lee Majors type actor (Alan Richson comes to mind), not a song and dance actor!
I watched the Fall guy, religiously!
It was goofy, fun, one or two stunts, Heather Thomas, Marky post, a criminal busted
This movie looked good, and it had some nice guys feel to it, but I think it was missing that one thing…..
No howie
8:56 - 9:12
The first Deadpool is proof that even action-packed, special effects heavy, and heavy CGI movies can be made for less than $75M. (Deadpool's production budget was $58M.) So why movies like Fall Guy cost nearly $150M is mind blowing to me. It's clear that Hollywood has simply lost all sense of what a movie/TV show's budget should be.
(And Godzilla Minus One's budget should be the wake up call Hollywood needed. It won the Oscar for best visual effects despite having a budget 1/18th the size of The Marvels budget.)
Drinker's review basically implied the film is yet another "check your brain at the door" movie. What the hell do we want?! How about movies with solid plot, likable, relatable characters, decent script, etc. Popcorn movies can be a nice diversion, but it seems every other movie that comes out (especially in the summer months) seems to be this type of movie. Also, I would add that for me there is an overabundance of CGI. Maybe it's my age (61) but as soon as I see an ad for these movies I'm immediately turned off. I believe many people, in similar ways, feel it's just not worth the money, and, yes, there are no real stars left.
I'm 46 and completely agree with you.
It's been 38 years since 'The Fall Guy' was a TV show.
The villain in 'Dead Reckoning' was basically AI and majorly convoluted at that! My feeling was that there would be a twist in part 2, where the ✌️real villain✌️ is exposed or reveals themselves.
When you make a nostalgic based movie, make sure there is a nostalgic audience out there to watch it. The over 50 crowd that would remember the original TV show does not go to the movies anymore.
It sucks that we are putting SO MUCH pressure on movies like 'The Fall Guy' and 'Challengers' to be hits but... this is where we are now.
did you not listen to what they said in the intro? It's being released at the beginning of movie season
The reason why is Hollywood continuously burn us and has the nerve to call us the racists, sexists and phobias. TFG is a Hollywood film just like Challengers and when we go to see it then we are basically giving Hollywood more money to call us morons and then they see the success and then they infect it and destroy it and laugh as we see something that we like get violated by Hollywood elites.
Opposite though. It sucks that there isn't enough pressure on movies like all of them, to be hits. Otherwise why would I bother opening my wallet in the first place?
@@Robyamdam Plenty of movies don't do that great at the beginning of movie season. That isn't some magic time or else every movie would release then.
i couldn't give a shit about films today, Hollywood wanted me to go, so i'm gone with my dollars.
Maybe peoples faith in movies has been ruined and they think "Why pay to watch a movie when it could be made by ideologues that hate me?"
I've recently started using my prime video account. I look at the date the movie was produced and if it is recent, I give it a miss
Yep, I rarely watch anything post 2016 unless it is something from Scandinavia,, Japan or Korea.
You win dummest system for choosing movies award. 😆
@@greggibson33 Why? Even Chris Stuckman has pointed out the studios started pressuring writers to insert "topical" themes and callouts in their scripts. This started about 2016 (for obvious reasons).
@@jeffhartley7548 Sorry my post was for main post. Korea has become a power in world cinema.
@@greggibson33 Utter non-argument + misspelling + emoji use;
watch out everybody we've got a real intellectual giant over here...
They took the name/concept of an action series from the 1980's and turned it into (or at least marketed it as) a soft action rom-com. They did not attract any of the fans of the original series, and I don't think the cheesy action/romance/comedy works as a formula. Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare is also pitched as a kind of cheesy action/comedy, same results...people who want action aren't interested in it being deflated by comedy.
I used to love the Fall Guy tv show, but I couldnt even finish watching this movie. The lack of a plot, seemed to have no direction besides the goal of the 2 leads hooking back up.🤦🏼♂️
how do these guys NOT know that The Fall Guy was a tv show from the 80's? It was quite popular. Wow ... they did zero research. This sours their future shows IMO.
Agreed. This panel is really just mainly focused on Disney offerings i.e. Marvel and Star Wars and their knowledge is very weak outside of that area.
@@jeffhartley7548His videos are like watching a bunch of old ladies complaining about everything. WTF
🥱 tv show was shit that's why. And it was hardly popular. Hard to do research on such a shitty show. 🥱
Literally the first sentence of the Wikipedia article says that it’s based on a TV show…
Only 70 year olds know it was show.
Why did it flop? Ryan Gosling isn't a convincing tough guy, it looked like a contrived hollywood movie, it didn't hue to the "ethos" of the original Fall Guy, it looked farcical
Ryan gosling is never going to be look at as a tough guy after Barbie that movie made him a joke
He should do rom-coms
But it's still the most entertaining movie of the year so far.
Great movie.
I want to hate Ryan Gosling so much, but he's brilliant in this.
The 80s Fall Guy show is irrelevant.
Unless people need an ego massage by pointing out a mistake (due to age differences).
I saw an ad for an extended cut of this movie already. If you grab the teats and start milking out the extended director’s deleted scenes version of the movie it means you’ve tapped out and decided to just wring every penny out of it before making it go away. “Fall Guy? Nope doesn’t ring a bell. You say we made it, huh? No, I’m pretty sure there was no such property.”
How did none of these guys know THE FALL GUY was an 80s TV show?!
So... none of you pop-culture experts knew it was a reasobably famous TV show in the 80s!? It was on here in Australia for years, so it must have been all over the globe presumably. Lift your game, a simple internet search would do it.
Exactly it would have taken them seconds to find out it's not an original IP. Hell all they would have to do is look at the wiki for the movie and they would see that it's based on an 80's show.
They are fake pop culture fans. I bet none actually read comics but they jump on the bandwagon of Marvel bashing from Twitter posts. People are noticing now
Yep i agree,i used to watch it in the 80's
It was even reasonably famous in the 1980s, it was big time in the 80s that was as pop culture iconic as Knight Rider, The A Team and Airwolf. These pop culture "experts" are just simple grifters with the exception of Robert Burnett.
Money is a big problem. For me to burn through 30 or 40 bucks for tickets and drinks is a major proportion of the monthly entertainment budget. If I'm going to spend the money... it needs to be a solid out-of-the-ballpark home run.
On that note, keep up the good work guys. We need more honest critics like your panelists.