Thank you so much for all this Malazan content. Since stumbling onto Gardens of Moon about 19 years ago I've waited for other people to love these books and talk about them as much as I do. Im currently on my 8th re-read and it never gets old to me. Hopefully you two do some videos on FoD and FoL since they are two of my favorites from the Malazan world. These videos make my day thank you 🙏🙏🙏
I’m happy you’re enjoying the discussions, Ryan! This Malazan journey with A.P. has been profoundly moving and important for me, and I share your passion. I actually reviewed Forge of Darkness and Fall of Light last year, and they were important reads for me in so many ways. Cheers!
Finished The Bonehunters last night (might be my favorite so far) and first thing I do this morning is watch this video. Love the series so much thanks for doing these videos! Now onto AP’s channel to watch the spoiler discussion 😁
I’m happy to hear you loved The Bonehunters, Mark! I can certainly see why it could be your favorite thus far. It’s definitely one that moved me deeply. I’ll “see you” over at the spoiler video!
Just finished this morning, always exciting to be finally be able to watch the next set of Malaztube videos 😄 I found this book the most difficult so far to pick up on overarching themes throughout. One thing I noticed explored consistently was the relationship between Gods and their followers. Even more broadly, between idols and devotee (I.E Leoman and Corabb, Tavore and the 14th).
That is indeed a prominent theme in The Bonehunters and one that’s important to the series as a whole. I think it resurfaces in a big way in Toll the Hounds. Happy reading, Mitch!
I’ve been waiting for this discussion for so long! Bonehunters is my absolute fave! Cant wait to watch the spoiler discussion, hopefully it will be 5 hours long! Hahaha
Thanks! I can see why The Bonehunters would be your favorite. So many incredible moments. The spoiler discussion isn’t quite five hours, but we covered a lot (not even close to everything). It will be out a week from this Friday, I believe. It’s fantastic to hear from you!
Can't wait for the spoiler talk for this one. I find it hard to discuss these books spoiler free. It impresses me how you can. So I'll see you there. Take care Philip.
Spoiler free is definitely a trickier business, especially as you proceed further in a deep series. However, Malazan is so rich with themes that we find it possible to say (hopefully) meaningful things without getting into details. That said, the details are on the way on A.P.'s channel!
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy The two of you always have meaningful discussions. I just don't have the wherewithal to constrain my comments in that format. So I listen to the spoiler free conversation, then grid myself for the oncoming deluge of thoughts in the non spoiler talk😊. Looking forward to it Philip.
@@Paul_van_Doleweerd Why? Obviously, because he’s spoiled! 😁 Or is it because he likes to spoil things? I do think his beardless state calls many things into question, though.
So cool to see you guys getting deeper and deeper into the series. As well as the rest of MalazTube as a whole. It’s going to be awesome to listen to content about the back half of the series. The Bonehunters is without a doubt in my top 3 of the main 10 I remember reading the last 300 or so pages at the airport off an edible and just getting my mind blown with each turn of the page, absolute fantastic book and can’t wait to hear your guys thoughts on my favorite of the series next, good ol Reapers Gale
For me the most engaging read in Malazan until now. The two chapters in Y Gatan and whats happening in the aftermath is some of the best i have ever read in fantasy and beyond... I´m absolutly amazed. I think the writing style that don´t explain every thought of the characters and leave things to the imagination of the reader, makes them all the more real and understandable. Especially in times today, some questions are very strong : Is it possible for people to fight in the wars committing crimes and stil be good people? Is there something like true peace? Or is it just an idea? Spoiler I think all the earlier novels converge here. The mirror to the dinner scene from Gardens. Kalams quest: talked out of it by Laseen in Deadhouse Gates and talked into by Támber here XD. Finally he desides his fate. The Bridgeburners end in Memory of Ice and there memory lives on in the newly born Bonehunters Icarium shows the terror and destruction it is so often talked about. Cotillion and Shadowthrone reveal a good junk of their agenda. All the gods begin to show themeselves The Chessboard is now set for an land shattering conflict between the Malanzans and the Edur.
Beautifully said! You’re absolutely right about the convergence here, and there will be more convergences to come. My best to you for the next installment!
It’s really wonderful to hear that! The discussions are enriching for me, but to hear that they are useful to other people makes me very happy. Thanks!
I was confused for a sec looking at AP, and then I realized his beard was gone. The Bonehunters was a fantastic reading experience for me, from start to finish. So happy to hear you two discuss it. 🥰❤
Another great discussion Philip and A.P. I am a first-time reader of the series and since I only finished Bonehunters earlier this week, I am still processing the novel. However, one thing that popped into my head as Philip was discussing the themes of truth vs. expediency/the right thing vs. propaganda, was (trying to stay spoiler-free here) what literally happens to the character (off-screen anyway) named Truth in Y'Ghatan and the deliberate choice by Erikson of that name. There is certainly more much more subtle discussion of those themes, but that particular scene and that character's name pulls it to the forefront. Heading over to the spoiler talk for more of your awesome private book club discussion! These videos along with Mike's Book Reviews really help me digest what I've read so thanks to you both.
Thank you, Danie! You’re absolutely right, I think, that Truth’s name has importance, especially in the act that you allude to. I think also it continues to reverberate in Gesler’s subsequent thoughts about him. I hope you’ll enjoy the spoiler filled chat!
I am reading The Bonehunters right now and it is absolutely fantastic. I saw you guys just uploaded a discussion on Reaper's Gale but that will have to wait for me till December. The Bonehunters will be one of my favourite Malazan books so far. Maybe the best.
Wonderful discussion on the important themes in The Bonehunters, and only a few fireballs thrown! Nice that you came prepared with the elbow-pad armor. There is so much to say about the structure of this series. The themes are certainly touching me in a deep and personal way, and I agree that they will pass the test of time. I loved this and am looking forward to the spoiler discussion!
Thank you, Johanna! We have to restrain the fireball casting at times so we can get on to the serious business of literary analysis. Perhaps the elbow pads were a sufficient deterrent. Ha ha! I'm glad you this series is moving you in a way that seems so similar to the way it's affecting me. It's always fantastic to hear from you!
@@Paul_van_Doleweerd Do you think we could work some elbow patches into a Doctor Fantasy story? Yet another wardrobe feature to instigate the envy of Professor Fireballs!
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy elbow patches won't go with the magical cape! That's fire retardant anyway as it was woven with droplets of Fafnir's blood. Didn't read the user manual again?
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy I'm looking forward to RG. I LOVED the Sengar story in MT. Top tier tragedy. Whenever I finish a malaz book I tell myself I'll wait a few days to decompress, but every single time, that next book finds it's way off my shelf and onto my kitchen table, where it waits for my attention. I'll start it this weekend. This is your 2nd time through right? It;s my first
@@SpitfireStoryboards Yes, it’s my second time through MBOTF. Sometimes it feels like it’s the first time, though, because of how many more things I’m noticing this time through. It’s definitely a series that rewards rereads!
I always read your comments, Kal, and I always try to give answer! Erikson hits that note in a big way in The Bonehunters. Without getting too specific here since it's the spoiler free video, he sets up the idea in "The Age Descending," as you observed, and then follows up on it several times. One example is when Ganoes Paran rails against the gods, declaring they will give answer for some seriously nasty stuff going on, and another example is when Fiddler plays his namesake in Malaz -- an incredible moment in this series and an act of giving answer, I think.
Hell yeah, I've been pumped for this. Can't wait for the spoiler version. Loved the discussion of utilitarianism vs Rawlsian or Kantian justice in BH. I think that’s most stark in *spoilers* Laseen’s decision to ethnically cleanse the Wickans; I think that whole plot line is one of the best arguments against utilitarianism I’ve read in fiction.
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy Awesome, can’t wait! I’m on Reaper’s Gale now, and I found Bonehunters to be a very close second to Memories of Ice for me so far. It just blew me away.
If its possible, can you please forward this message to Steven Erikson Sir, First, I loved the MALAZAN BOOK OF THE FALLEN series and I fell in love with the series since the 1st book and have kind of binged through the entire series in 7 Months. And at the end I was left with the feeling that I wanted more, not of all as many including Fiddler and the gang have earned a well earned rest but Ganoes Paran, he has so much potential and I just wanted to know if there are any plans for a spin off series that revolves around High fist Master of the Deck Ganoes Paran and his army perhaps discovering more of the different elder warrens with a new foe. I and many others would just love to see more of him.
I do love Midnight Tides too, but this one really blew me away this time. I don’t think I’ll ever be able to rank them because I’d have at least four or five candidates for number one.
The old and new gods have something of a similar feel maybe like old money as opposed to new money..? Where the old has more experience and is more about being subtle and reactive, new is more flagrant and proactive. Great talk! Hasn't been that long ago when I reread this, and I'm pumped up for another reread again 😅
Thanks, Rob! Your next Malazan reread is calling! I can see myself returning as well not too long after this reread. Even now, this being my second read and talking to A.P. and getting excellent comments from so many other fans, I know I’m missing some things. About the gods, there’s an interesting passage in The Bonehunters where Ganoes Paran explains his theory about ascendants and Elder Gods to Hedge. I found it pretty illuminating.
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy We'll keep on discovering new things in these novels Philip! As AP likes to point out we as readers are the filters through which the books are interpreted, and we change all the time - not least because of the novels themselves and interactions about them 😊 You mean the 'mountain range' theory? It is interesting, and certainly helps as a visualizer. But it doesn't seem to take 'original' or 'external' powers under consideration, like Mother Dark or the Crippled God.
We often hear certain Malazan plotlines, characters, and even entire novels described as Shakespearean. (Toll the Hounds, Midnight Tides, Kharkanas come to mind). Both of you being academic professionals, I think you should definitely analyze these comparisons and discuss whether or not they're appropriate!
Thanks, Alexander! We actually have talked about the Shakespeare comparisons a couple times, once during our non-spoiler chat (on my channel) or spoiler chat (on A.P.’s channel) about Midnight Tides - I can’t remember which. The blend of comedy and tragedy in Midnight Tides is reminiscent of a Shakespeare play. Erikson’s prose is excellent, but it’s of course not Elizabethan English, so the Shakespeare comparison only goes so far.
Leather elbow patches on tweed or corduroy are the uniform of germanists and history teachers here in Germany. Though my best friend (a jurist) wanted a leather jacket with corduroy elbow patches...
Yes! The sense of large scale convergence is real! The series is like a fractal in many ways, including how each book has its own convergence even as they’re part of the grand convergence that is the series. Enjoy!
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy I am going to be taking a brief break from the series to finish Robin Hobb's Farseer trilogy and finally read Oathbringer by Brandon Sanderson but I can't wait to resume. I'm pretty confident that Malazan has solidified itself as a Top 5 favourite fantasy series for me. Erikson truly is a phenomenal author.
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy I will, Farseer is excellent so far. I love Hobb's use of the first person perspective and the framing device of Fitz looking back as an older man.
hey I was just wondering when you will start doing normal reviews again regularly? I used to watch them fairly regularly but just don't enjoy these other videos as much personally haha
Hi, Lloyd! My last regular review was a couple weeks ago, John Gwynne’s A Time of Dread. A week before that was Stephen King’s The Waste Lands. And I’ll be reviewing Dreams of the Dying in a week or so. I’ll definitely be continuing the regular reviews as well as those long discussions. I definitely get that not everyone has time for or interest in the discussions.
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy Thanks! watching you're reviews is like being back in English class, except this time I actually enjoy it. 🤣 I often watch a review the read the book for myself
Flame retardent elbow patches -- snazzy! So what's next? Chain Mail? Why do these spoiler free discussions feel so much like a teaser video? Now I have to find a way to sqweeze more Malazan reading time into my day to get to The Bonehunters faster. Maybe less sleep, even no sleep? 🤔
We aim for snazzy around here! I'd actually love to show up for a video in chain mail . . . Hmmmm. Also, I plead guilty: the non-spoiler video is a great way to tell people why these books are so cool and, hopefully, give them a try. I wish you the very best in tackling The Bonehunters -- it's a big book, and when I got to the end of it, I felt changed, which is why I consider this series my favorite of all time.
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy Philip Chase in chain mail? Should I be egging you on? Oooh yes!! 😈 I definitely watch that! Maybe one of those medieval sources of fantasy videos? So in the interest of health and safety wait till the winter as they can get quite hot (for the wearer I mean, but who knows maybe even in a fashion sense. Many a medieval frouwe seems to have been quite smitten.) I'm still far, far away from Bonehunters as I still have not finished Deadhouse Gates, entirely my own fault as I started to read other, mostly non-fiction, stuff.😞 But mission accomplished! You got me completely hooked on MBotF.
@@brush2canvas849 Ha ha! We’ll see. I have a feeling chain mail might be an investment. It’s not something I’d be able to pick up at Walmart. Although, come to think of it, I do have a good friend from high school who is a blacksmith. Hmmmm. About reading Malazan, the great thing is there’s no wrong pace. What’s right for you is what’s right. But I’m happy you’re enjoying it so far!
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy hence knights tried to get their opponent's equipment at a tourney. So cost wise nothing much changed since the middle ages. But before you remortgage the house maybe try getting one on loan from a re- enactment group. Ah, Philip! Not enjoy, the most over used word on booktube! Can we settle for something like 'I appreaciate the experience'?
Sorry to hear that - I hope it improves for you. If I think back to the first time I read it, there might have been some moments that stretched out a bit for me. This time, I savored every moment of reading. So much of our reading experience can depend on where we are and our current state. Best wishes for your reading!
As ever this was a lot of fun, Philip. Doctor, do you concur?
I most thoroughly and respectfully concur, Doctor! Wait, did you say "fun"? . . . Wasn't it supposed to be erudite, cultivated, and scholarly?
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy Very pithy.
@@Paul_van_Doleweerd An auspicious convergence of analogous sentiments.
Two years later and I've finally chopped away enough of my TBR to reach The Bonehunters. Really looking forward to it!
Best wishes for the read, Bram!
Thank you so much for all this Malazan content. Since stumbling onto Gardens of Moon about 19 years ago I've waited for other people to love these books and talk about them as much as I do. Im currently on my 8th re-read and it never gets old to me. Hopefully you two do some videos on FoD and FoL since they are two of my favorites from the Malazan world. These videos make my day thank you 🙏🙏🙏
I’m happy you’re enjoying the discussions, Ryan! This Malazan journey with A.P. has been profoundly moving and important for me, and I share your passion. I actually reviewed Forge of Darkness and Fall of Light last year, and they were important reads for me in so many ways. Cheers!
Finished The Bonehunters last night (might be my favorite so far) and first thing I do this morning is watch this video. Love the series so much thanks for doing these videos! Now onto AP’s channel to watch the spoiler discussion 😁
I’m happy to hear you loved The Bonehunters, Mark! I can certainly see why it could be your favorite thus far. It’s definitely one that moved me deeply. I’ll “see you” over at the spoiler video!
Just finished this morning, always exciting to be finally be able to watch the next set of Malaztube videos 😄
I found this book the most difficult so far to pick up on overarching themes throughout. One thing I noticed explored consistently was the relationship between Gods and their followers. Even more broadly, between idols and devotee (I.E Leoman and Corabb, Tavore and the 14th).
That is indeed a prominent theme in The Bonehunters and one that’s important to the series as a whole. I think it resurfaces in a big way in Toll the Hounds. Happy reading, Mitch!
I’ve been waiting for this discussion for so long! Bonehunters is my absolute fave! Cant wait to watch the spoiler discussion, hopefully it will be 5 hours long! Hahaha
Thanks! I can see why The Bonehunters would be your favorite. So many incredible moments. The spoiler discussion isn’t quite five hours, but we covered a lot (not even close to everything). It will be out a week from this Friday, I believe. It’s fantastic to hear from you!
Can't wait for the spoiler talk for this one. I find it hard to discuss these books spoiler free. It impresses me how you can. So I'll see you there. Take care Philip.
Spoiler free is definitely a trickier business, especially as you proceed further in a deep series. However, Malazan is so rich with themes that we find it possible to say (hopefully) meaningful things without getting into details. That said, the details are on the way on A.P.'s channel!
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy The two of you always have meaningful discussions. I just don't have the wherewithal to constrain my comments in that format. So I listen to the spoiler free conversation, then grid myself for the oncoming deluge of thoughts in the non spoiler talk😊. Looking forward to it Philip.
@@sethulakovic3722 We’re also much more free flowing in the spoiler discussion, or at least it feels that way to me!
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy Why is it that AP always gets to host the spoiler part? And should he still be allowed to without a beard?
@@Paul_van_Doleweerd Why? Obviously, because he’s spoiled! 😁 Or is it because he likes to spoil things? I do think his beardless state calls many things into question, though.
Always look forward to these! Thank you both :D
It’s our pleasure, and thank you so much for watching and commenting, which definitely encourages us to keep going!
So cool to see you guys getting deeper and deeper into the series. As well as the rest of MalazTube as a whole. It’s going to be awesome to listen to content about the back half of the series.
The Bonehunters is without a doubt in my top 3 of the main 10 I remember reading the last 300 or so pages at the airport off an edible and just getting my mind blown with each turn of the page, absolute fantastic book and can’t wait to hear your guys thoughts on my favorite of the series next, good ol Reapers Gale
I couldn’t read a Malazan book at the airport. People would be staring at me and wondering why I was crying and laughing all the time.
For me the most engaging read in Malazan until now.
The two chapters in Y Gatan and whats happening in the aftermath is some of the best i have ever read in fantasy and beyond...
I´m absolutly amazed.
I think the writing style that don´t explain every thought of the characters and leave things to the imagination of the reader, makes them all the more real and understandable.
Especially in times today, some questions are very strong : Is it possible for people to fight in the wars committing crimes and stil be good people? Is there something like true peace? Or is it just an idea?
Spoiler
I think all the earlier novels converge here.
The mirror to the dinner scene from Gardens.
Kalams quest: talked out of it by Laseen in Deadhouse Gates and talked into by Támber here XD. Finally he desides his fate.
The Bridgeburners end in Memory of Ice and there memory lives on in the newly born Bonehunters
Icarium shows the terror and destruction it is so often talked about.
Cotillion and Shadowthrone reveal a good junk of their agenda.
All the gods begin to show themeselves
The Chessboard is now set for an land shattering conflict between the Malanzans and the Edur.
Beautifully said! You’re absolutely right about the convergence here, and there will be more convergences to come. My best to you for the next installment!
Thanks again as always for this great Malazan content ! It really makes me appreciate books I already love even more.
It’s really wonderful to hear that! The discussions are enriching for me, but to hear that they are useful to other people makes me very happy. Thanks!
Have been waiting for this one!
Here we are! These books get bigger, so it took us a little while this time . . . But we'll be back!
I was confused for a sec looking at AP, and then I realized his beard was gone.
The Bonehunters was a fantastic reading experience for me, from start to finish. So happy to hear you two discuss it. 🥰❤
The beard had to be harvested for wool to weave Philip's new jacket.
@@gerdforster883 oh, no... getting Spindle vibes here! 🤣😱
@@liviathemalazanpotatonoob5014 When he raises his warren, college students panic and run away to revise.
Thanks, Livia! Alas, A.P. did not follow Gimli's advice -- "Not the beard!"
@@gerdforster883 I'll be sporting it when we discuss Reaper's Gale.
Paran is outstanding in this novel. "Pure genius!"
Agreed! He really comes into his own here. We talk about him for a bit in the spoiler video.
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy Excellent!
The Bonehunters: the greatest seige in fantasy...ever!!
No argument here! The siege of Capustan in Memories of Ice might be close, though.
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy yep cant argue with that.
Love the moment AP regrets using a car journey as a metaphor.
Hee hee! I love that moment too! I might have helped it along with a couple subtle reminders . . . 😁
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy For all the close reading he does, he doesn't apply those same techniques to his oration.
@@EricMcLuen That would require meta-awareness, or would it be extra-extra-diegetic analysis?
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy Always putting the author in the hot seat, that's our Fireballs...
@@Paul_van_Doleweerd And certain authors can get rather heated, I’ve heard.
Another great discussion Philip and A.P. I am a first-time reader of the series and since I only finished Bonehunters earlier this week, I am still processing the novel. However, one thing that popped into my head as Philip was discussing the themes of truth vs. expediency/the right thing vs. propaganda, was (trying to stay spoiler-free here) what literally happens to the character (off-screen anyway) named Truth in Y'Ghatan and the deliberate choice by Erikson of that name. There is certainly more much more subtle discussion of those themes, but that particular scene and that character's name pulls it to the forefront.
Heading over to the spoiler talk for more of your awesome private book club discussion! These videos along with Mike's Book Reviews really help me digest what I've read so thanks to you both.
Thank you, Danie! You’re absolutely right, I think, that Truth’s name has importance, especially in the act that you allude to. I think also it continues to reverberate in Gesler’s subsequent thoughts about him. I hope you’ll enjoy the spoiler filled chat!
I am reading The Bonehunters right now and it is absolutely fantastic. I saw you guys just uploaded a discussion on Reaper's Gale but that will have to wait for me till December. The Bonehunters will be one of my favourite Malazan books so far. Maybe the best.
Yay! I'm excited to hear how much you're enjoying The Bonehunters -- it's an amazing book. We will be here waiting for you in December!
Great discussion! I never skip these, even though I don't need spoiler-free for the specific book, haha!
I deeply appreciate you watching and commenting!
Wonderful discussion on the important themes in The Bonehunters, and only a few fireballs thrown! Nice that you came prepared with the elbow-pad armor. There is so much to say about the structure of this series. The themes are certainly touching me in a deep and personal way, and I agree that they will pass the test of time. I loved this and am looking forward to the spoiler discussion!
Thank you, Johanna! We have to restrain the fireball casting at times so we can get on to the serious business of literary analysis. Perhaps the elbow pads were a sufficient deterrent. Ha ha! I'm glad you this series is moving you in a way that seems so similar to the way it's affecting me. It's always fantastic to hear from you!
He was discussing history, elbow patches are a requirement.
@@Paul_van_Doleweerd Do you think we could work some elbow patches into a Doctor Fantasy story? Yet another wardrobe feature to instigate the envy of Professor Fireballs!
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy I'm not sure envy is what you're instigating... 😁
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy elbow patches won't go with the magical cape! That's fire retardant anyway as it was woven with droplets of Fafnir's blood. Didn't read the user manual again?
Just finished bh. Fantastic . Great video thanks
Awesome! I’m so glad to hear you enjoyed The Bonehunters! I’m about halfway through Reaper’s Gale right now and loving it.
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy I'm looking forward to RG. I LOVED the Sengar story in MT. Top tier tragedy. Whenever I finish a malaz book I tell myself I'll wait a few days to decompress, but every single time, that next book finds it's way off my shelf and onto my kitchen table, where it waits for my attention. I'll start it this weekend. This is your 2nd time through right? It;s my first
@@SpitfireStoryboards Yes, it’s my second time through MBOTF. Sometimes it feels like it’s the first time, though, because of how many more things I’m noticing this time through. It’s definitely a series that rewards rereads!
I see you read my comments on the poems
I always read your comments, Kal, and I always try to give answer! Erikson hits that note in a big way in The Bonehunters. Without getting too specific here since it's the spoiler free video, he sets up the idea in "The Age Descending," as you observed, and then follows up on it several times. One example is when Ganoes Paran rails against the gods, declaring they will give answer for some seriously nasty stuff going on, and another example is when Fiddler plays his namesake in Malaz -- an incredible moment in this series and an act of giving answer, I think.
Hell yeah, I've been pumped for this. Can't wait for the spoiler version. Loved the discussion of utilitarianism vs Rawlsian or Kantian justice in BH. I think that’s most stark in *spoilers* Laseen’s decision to ethnically cleanse the Wickans; I think that whole plot line is one of the best arguments against utilitarianism I’ve read in fiction.
I believe the spoiler version will be out not this Friday, but the next. We had an excellent time discussing the specifics!
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy Awesome, can’t wait! I’m on Reaper’s Gale now, and I found Bonehunters to be a very close second to Memories of Ice for me so far. It just blew me away.
@@CatastrophicDisease Same here! I’m still feeling the hangover from The Bonehunters.
If its possible, can you please forward this message to Steven Erikson
Sir,
First, I loved the MALAZAN BOOK OF THE FALLEN series and I fell in
love with the series since the 1st book and have kind of binged
through the entire series in 7 Months.
And at the end I was left with the feeling that I wanted more, not of
all as many including Fiddler and the gang have earned a well earned
rest but Ganoes Paran,
he has so much potential and I just wanted to know if there are any
plans for a spin off series that revolves around High fist Master of the Deck Ganoes Paran and
his army perhaps discovering
more of the different elder warrens with a new foe. I and many others
would just love to see more of him.
Thanks, Suryansh! I replied to your other message, so let's see what Erikson will be up to in the future! Happy reading to you!
The best book since memories of ice..
I do love Midnight Tides too, but this one really blew me away this time. I don’t think I’ll ever be able to rank them because I’d have at least four or five candidates for number one.
The old and new gods have something of a similar feel maybe like old money as opposed to new money..?
Where the old has more experience and is more about being subtle and reactive, new is more flagrant and proactive.
Great talk! Hasn't been that long ago when I reread this, and I'm pumped up for another reread again 😅
Thanks, Rob! Your next Malazan reread is calling! I can see myself returning as well not too long after this reread. Even now, this being my second read and talking to A.P. and getting excellent comments from so many other fans, I know I’m missing some things. About the gods, there’s an interesting passage in The Bonehunters where Ganoes Paran explains his theory about ascendants and Elder Gods to Hedge. I found it pretty illuminating.
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy
We'll keep on discovering new things in these novels Philip! As AP likes to point out we as readers are the filters through which the books are interpreted, and we change all the time - not least because of the novels themselves and interactions about them 😊
You mean the 'mountain range' theory? It is interesting, and certainly helps as a visualizer. But it doesn't seem to take 'original' or 'external' powers under consideration, like Mother Dark or the Crippled God.
@@robpaul7544 Actually, I don’t change. I’m the same as I was when I was twelve, I swear!
We often hear certain Malazan plotlines, characters, and even entire novels described as Shakespearean. (Toll the Hounds, Midnight Tides, Kharkanas come to mind). Both of you being academic professionals, I think you should definitely analyze these comparisons and discuss whether or not they're appropriate!
Thanks, Alexander! We actually have talked about the Shakespeare comparisons a couple times, once during our non-spoiler chat (on my channel) or spoiler chat (on A.P.’s channel) about Midnight Tides - I can’t remember which. The blend of comedy and tragedy in Midnight Tides is reminiscent of a Shakespeare play. Erikson’s prose is excellent, but it’s of course not Elizabethan English, so the Shakespeare comparison only goes so far.
Leather elbow patches on tweed or corduroy are the uniform of germanists and history teachers here in Germany.
Though my best friend (a jurist) wanted a leather jacket with corduroy elbow patches...
Elbow patches are pretty cool, right? I'm confident they will increase my subscriber count by 1,000 . . . for each one.
Isn't this what Homer Simpson tried to make when he was a teacher?
"You ruined a perfectly good jacket."
"I ruined TWO jackets."
@@tightyellowshorts I have now achieved one of my major goals in life: being compared to Homer Simpson! 😁
I'm sad to see the end of the Seven Cities storyline (or is it?) but excited to be going back to Lether especially that the series is converging.
Yes! The sense of large scale convergence is real! The series is like a fractal in many ways, including how each book has its own convergence even as they’re part of the grand convergence that is the series. Enjoy!
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy I am going to be taking a brief break from the series to finish Robin Hobb's Farseer trilogy and finally read Oathbringer by Brandon Sanderson but I can't wait to resume.
I'm pretty confident that Malazan has solidified itself as a Top 5 favourite fantasy series for me. Erikson truly is a phenomenal author.
@@thatsci-firogue Enjoy Farseer and Oathbringer!
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy I will, Farseer is excellent so far. I love Hobb's use of the first person perspective and the framing device of Fitz looking back as an older man.
@@thatsci-firogue It’s beautifully executed.
hey I was just wondering when you will start doing normal reviews again regularly? I used to watch them fairly regularly but just don't enjoy these other videos as much personally haha
Hi, Lloyd! My last regular review was a couple weeks ago, John Gwynne’s A Time of Dread. A week before that was Stephen King’s The Waste Lands. And I’ll be reviewing Dreams of the Dying in a week or so. I’ll definitely be continuing the regular reviews as well as those long discussions. I definitely get that not everyone has time for or interest in the discussions.
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy Thanks! watching you're reviews is like being back in English class, except this time I actually enjoy it. 🤣 I often watch a review the read the book for myself
@@rsfrogga234 I’m glad class is enjoyable this time around!
Flame retardent elbow patches -- snazzy! So what's next? Chain Mail?
Why do these spoiler free discussions feel so much like a teaser video? Now I have to find a way to sqweeze more Malazan reading time into my day to get to The Bonehunters faster. Maybe less sleep, even no sleep? 🤔
We aim for snazzy around here! I'd actually love to show up for a video in chain mail . . . Hmmmm. Also, I plead guilty: the non-spoiler video is a great way to tell people why these books are so cool and, hopefully, give them a try. I wish you the very best in tackling The Bonehunters -- it's a big book, and when I got to the end of it, I felt changed, which is why I consider this series my favorite of all time.
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy Philip Chase in chain mail? Should I be egging you on? Oooh yes!! 😈 I definitely watch that! Maybe one of those medieval sources of fantasy videos? So in the interest of health and safety wait till the winter as they can get quite hot (for the wearer I mean, but who knows maybe even in a fashion sense. Many a medieval frouwe seems to have been quite smitten.)
I'm still far, far away from Bonehunters as I still have not finished Deadhouse Gates, entirely my own fault as I started to read other, mostly non-fiction, stuff.😞 But mission accomplished! You got me completely hooked on MBotF.
@@brush2canvas849 Ha ha! We’ll see. I have a feeling chain mail might be an investment. It’s not something I’d be able to pick up at Walmart. Although, come to think of it, I do have a good friend from high school who is a blacksmith. Hmmmm. About reading Malazan, the great thing is there’s no wrong pace. What’s right for you is what’s right. But I’m happy you’re enjoying it so far!
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy hence knights tried to get their opponent's equipment at a tourney. So cost wise nothing much changed since the middle ages. But before you remortgage the house maybe try getting one on loan from a re- enactment group.
Ah, Philip! Not enjoy, the most over used word on booktube! Can we settle for something like 'I appreaciate the experience'?
@@brush2canvas849 Instead of “enjoy,” how about “The series has filled my mind with a sense of the sublime”?
I guess Dr’s have quite larger homes 😂😂
Ha ha! One of us lives in an apartment, and the other in a townhouse, but we can all dream.
@@PhilipChaseTheBestofFantasy you’re both doing great. Just having some fun at AP’s expense.
@@JamesColeman1 Fun at AP’s expense is always a worthy endeavor! 😁
700 pages into the bonehunters and i dont like it at all
Sorry to hear that - I hope it improves for you. If I think back to the first time I read it, there might have been some moments that stretched out a bit for me. This time, I savored every moment of reading. So much of our reading experience can depend on where we are and our current state. Best wishes for your reading!
I am sorry for your loss!