AMD vs Intel with Gamers Nexus
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ก.ค. 2019
- Today we are visited by Steve Burke from Gamers Nexus as we discuss AMD vs Intel and why someone might choose one over the other... What are your thoughts? Comment below.
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Really fun video, Jay! Thanks for having us and the editing came out great to make us seem like we had an actual plan going into this. Looking forward to tomorrow's event!
Bring D.Kanter next time :D
Can't be the first comment on the GN comment, but. I can be the first comment to say Penis.
So.
Penis.
Steve is the shit.
It would be nice to see to beat the timespy score together with jay :D
@@zachsteiner no your head is shit .. inherited shit .. fools always go nuts while seeing a wise one.. 😉
Everyone: Builds PC
Most played game: Cinebench
I have Spent more hours on 3D Mark than probably on half of my list of steam games.
I know its very sad.
Everyone: Builds PC
Also Everyone: PLAYS video.
2 years from now:
Intel: Look how fast my 12 cores are in real world applications!
Everyone: I need the 32 core Ryzen!!! Holy $h1t!!
Most popular application in the world: Cinebench
@@xicofir3737Only time I run benchmarks is when I upgrade my computer. Lets me know that I did not spend all that money for nothing ;)
The 3600 is just such a sick value at the price point and on a good platform too.
Also Seriously Look at the 2600x, 2600, 2700, and 2700x. I know in Canada there are some amazing deals this week. I got a 2700x for $280 CAD on Amazon Prime Day.
Yea just got the 3600x upgrading from the i5 4690k it’s a huge upgrade for a great price.
Still if 3900X can't keep up 5 GHz with different number of cores, why 3600X can't do 5 GHz at least in single core boost? It could be a real value with good single or double core boost.
You're getting 7700k gaming performance + 2/4 threads extra to keep those minimums up and so you can have a web broswer open watching a movie or something without stutter. Ask me how I know with my 4770k OC'd its so anoyying the performance hit.
The best gaming CPU in the world
I see Jay with blue lamps accents and Steve with red lamps accents. Got you
You must be the next Sherlock Holmes
Halo wars!
@Steve Sherman ruthless
So now it is 26 JUN 2020 and I am still running a 1600 on a Crosshair 6 and 32 Gb of Flair 3200 and the CPU daily drives @ 3.850 Ghz. Been giving a a 3700x a good look. But maybe I will just wait to see what 2021 has available for GPUs. The 1600 does OK with a 60Hz 1440 monitor. But a new 3700x is $275. Maybe I will do both. The GTX 690 is getting long in the tooth. AS for new Motherboard , nope, not until DDR 5 matures. I learned, still got a 350 prime plus sitting on the shelf
The Tech Jayzus crossover was bound to happen. :)
Amazing name!
And what a combo it is!
More like Jayxux
I think this means a new season of Scrapyard Wars will begin production soon. Linus and Luke vs Steve and Jay.
@@Slavolko yes, best tech video of 2019
Appropriate background lighting for the topic
Amd Steve vs Intel Jay
Jay's been binge watching the John Wick trilogy again. Delusions of Grandeur?
It was intentional
@@james2042 You don't say?!
It's like the Sith vs the Jedi
This was a great collab, I'd definitely like to see more of this in the future. You both do a good job of playing off of each others best parts. Would definitely be in for a podcast sub
Ya'll should start a combo channel caled "Two Cents Gamer" and focus on budget PCs.
JayzTwoNexus
@America exactly, my PC budget is about $2000 everytime.
@@vinsmoke2865 how about GamersTwoCents
Gamers' Two cents
@Washington’s Highest That's pretty cool
I now really want a Jay and Steve podcast on a regular basis
Uncut tho
THIS
I agree with that :)
YESSSS
I would subscribe to that so hard
Enough talk, get to the arm wrestling part
Whats the odd?
11:12?
You mean ARM wrestling, surely
@@fajaradi1223 8:12
@@millionmice take your like and get out
In my mind Phil Steven and Jay went for beer after this and just continued this whole conversation
Really liked the on screen notes as you went through the use-cases!
Whether you like Intel, or you like AMD, you should thank AMD for making these CPU's even exist. If not for Ryzen, we'd all probably still be stuck with 4 to 6 cores, max.
nappydrew owning an 8700k I have to agree with this statement.
As well as and forcing Intel to step up it's game after so long.
I thank whichever mass schooling system has produced the same poor use of English that results in comments that read like clones, just like yours.
And thanking amd for the competition. Having AMD and Intel competing in the market is good for us all. We benefit from increases in productivity, ipc, and generally better products from this. I've been rooting for AMD because of this. Intel has held on for to long and the market shows. Now we have so much choice it's really amazing. The PC building scene is more accessible today than it was just 2 years ago.
i did thank them, with my money lol
it's like watching 2 videos in the same time, but better
It's so confusing
This is literally my 2 favorite and most watch reviewers. Awesome to see you guys together!
I could sit here all day watching the 2 of you discuss all this stuff. Itd be awesome to see you 2 do like a monthly video where you guys just sit here and talk bout everything that's happened in the past month
Me: I'm only gaming ...
Also me: but 12 cores...
well I mean, if you're gonna fawn over 12 cores, just wait for september cause well.... 16 cores.
@@shawnpitman876 the 3950x is going to remain in the Threadripper line up. the 50x naming scheme as always been the start up for Threadripper
@@hexotech5202 Dude, they've already announced 3950x AM4 CPU coming in sept. WTF are you even talking about? Its not threadripper.
@@shawnpitman876 It's a threadripper-ripper 😅
@@MephistoDerPudel erm, i misread that. DERP.
Now we just need to get Anthony to sit down with them
wHO
@@albinoalpaca1059 the absolute unit
he is good too!
@@albinoalpaca1059 the god
I honestly have no fucking idea who that is
Great to see a couple of my favorite tech tubers teaming up and sharing thoughts. I really enjoyed this.
15:38 Thousand yard stare if ever I've seen one... "You weren't there man!!!"
Stop worrying about what fanboys and trolls comment on your videos! Plz just do your content your way and say what you want to say!
trolls and harassers can take down you tube channel destroy TV show anime show which happened to bleach. Trolls if get enough destroy small businesses
If we're all honest, the top techtubers look UP to Steve Burke.
This dude's knowledge is above the pack for sure.... and above most of our heads as well. Mine included.
rightfully so!
So you include Der 8auer?
@@FATMAN162x And swallowed.
@@Vanadium his knowledge of actual chip design is insane, but his knowledge of real world performance is non existent
Please do more of these videos with Steve. this was great. i really want to upgrade to a new cpu and this actually helped me narrow in on my options
Love the info, guys! Thanks for taking the time to put this together.
It was nice dropping in the 3900x into my X370 board and ONLY needing to buy a new CPU without a MOBO for first time ever.
BillWills what board?
@@MrMoviePhoneEx Asus Prime X370 Pro
You realize theirs not optimization for the x300 series , or am I wrong ? 🤔🙃
@@bdubbstsi pretty sure you mean 400 series
@@waterlemon5434 The clock speeds i'm seeing are very close to X570
At the end of the day, I am still broke. Great advice anyway
Best tech comment ever! So true
Then do something about it so you aren't broke.
I realize this is easier said than done, but do whatever you gotta do! Remember, you're more of a badass than you realize!
The Silent Observer Suddenly Wholesome!
Well, I have to wait for summer to arrive, I can’t work during winter.
glad i watched this before buying my cpu love the community on here really helpful for a noob like me
Love that lighting, I see what you did there :D
Human eye can only see 3 gb of ram
Is that per eye? I think I see 6gb total(dual channel)
I heard they can only smell 4 cores (up to 3,7 ghz)
Thats why nvidia put another half onto the 970. Kek
Windows you say? :)
I thought it was only 3.5 gb
you guys are awesome, you should do this more often :)
Thanks for the video
can't get a more epic duo! I'm not typically into the whole "talkshow" thing but with Steve in the house, what could ever go wrong? :D (THUMBS UP!)
Thank you! Loved the video. Keep the collabs coming!
I like this video format. You should have guests just talking about stuff like this more often
The gamer in me would be ok with sticking to my 1700 or upgrading to a 3600, but the enthusiast has already purchased a 3700X 😂
my 1700 with 1080 still rocks who needs upgrading.
jk i dont have any money
Nah enthusiast is still waiting for the 3950X.
@@GMCLabs lmaoo true i have a 2080ti and 8700k anything but the 3950x is a waste at this point.
Same situation here. I was happy with my OC'd 1700... But I really wanted Zen 2 and now I have a 3900X. Considering gaming is the most intensive task I do, I can't really justify it. It is fun to watch it blow through multithreaded benchmarks, though. And it slotted right into my Asus X370-Pro. Thanks for backwards compatibility AMD!
@@alsy0055 My Phenom II x6 with GTX925 still rocks, who needs upgrading.
WAIT NO IT HURTS, IT HURTS SO MUCH, GAAAAH.
(to be honest the GTX925 was replaced twice, first with a GTX750Ti because the 295 started going wonky and unreliable in spite of being repasted and then with a GTX970 because the 750 was starting to really get on my nerves with its lack of performance; but the Phenom II is still in dire need of upgrade, and i mean... i could plop in an FX-8350 in there for a shitty overpriced sidegrade.... but i should really go with something much less horrible)
the collaboration videos are always great . so much info I think my head gonna pop
Love the video set up. The lighting in the back was done perfect, looking at it, with the latter there, Good production. i honestly dont watch you 2 too much but i watched this one. legit video and info
I really enjoyed this video! You two have a great balance of details vs summary of details. Great discussion.
honestly, love the red and blue lighting.
great video. :)
That was great guys.
Thank you.
Good community cooperation..
17:00 is that the i9-9900k or the i7-9700k? im just learning about pc building but I couldnt find an i9-9700
i7-9700k. It was a typo in the video.
"delete those scores".....hahaha...awesome, you guys are the best!! Can't wait for your next collaboration or POD cast!
I liked it both of my fav Techies, having a good convo and sharing insights together. GG. Make it like a series and hope u guys can do more sit downs like this and talk. Cheers #JayzTwoCents & #GamersNexus
Legend says that if you try to simulate and render a Steve with short hair, the system crashes. Doesn't matter which platform. There are some things computers just cannot do.
Background lighting was a nice touch. Would love to see more red vs. blue videos from you two!
Jayz should be red
Agreed...or a red vs green conversation on GPUs, that could be fun too
You can get the 2700 for 150 USD and the 2700X for 200 USD on Amazon right now. I'm not much of an AMD fan, but that is one hell of a deal.
Just go all in on being a Tech fan. Get one of each along with Intel processors as well!
Buy the 3600 instead. Why because it’s faster in both gaming and multi core applications.
@@NovaDoll depends, you could spend the extr money on a better gpu
@@Hetsu.. the 3600 is 200 usd tho? So basically same price league but vast improvement in performance. But yeah depends on your needs, ofc
@@Bloomingtide Some people are on really strict budgets, and saving $50 could be important
"Im looking at a lot of stuff in here that dont look legal sooooooo... Im gonna need you to delete those scores" XD I love it!
I came for the collab. You guys are great content! Thanks for all the info!
I love seeing this kind of discussion between people who all know what they're talking about. It's such an underrated thing how much this kind of content can further one's horizons.
Yaaay! 2 of my favourite people on TH-cam together in a video.
Damn, if even you guys cannot decide what is best for gaming, i will LN2 my Gameboy ;-)
I'd watch that.
What are we talking about here? OG GameBoy, Pocket, Color, or Advance?
They said it in the video, for pure gaming, 8700k is still the king of the hill with the 3600 as a close second.
@@abdoufma 9700k*?
I hate that phrase... “for pure gaming”......
That’s so ridiculous. The ONLY reason to buy a more expensive Intel proc for gaming is if you game -competitively-. If you don’t game competitively and you spend $200 more on an Intel proc for 5% better frame rates, you’re an idiot, and part of the reason prices are so high.
Jay, in Absolute Gaming Performance, its a i7-9700k, not a i9-9700k ;)
The i9-9700k is a comedy lake SKU with 10 cores and 30 threads (superduper threading).
@@mbp1646 "comedy lake" lmaoo
Loved the solid information, and the specific use case layout. It was very helpful.
i still have a i5 2500k clocked at 4.5 ghz until next week when i finally upgrade to a r5 3600 yay !
Exactly the same here, i5 2500k, it has been a great 7 years but i have to let you go!
@@tojern hehe its like an old reliable friend such a shame that intel wont offer todays version of a 2500k's speed and value with more cores . but guess what i dont care anymore because AMD did it for them :)
I still have a Phenom II x6 clocked to 3.7 GHz. It's... not very good.
I5 2500k still runs well but sadly I’ve already ordered a X570 and 3800x with a rtx 2080 to drive my 3440 x 1440 haven’t stopped grinning yet.
@@johnyang799 This shouldn't be happening really. Perhaps you get some holdover driver even hidden one if you transferred Windows from a prior system that's pissing on your parade? Or you might have a faulty piece of hardware, like mainboard or storage disk or bad thermal management, forced throttle. I mean really none of the reviewers mention slow booting or software compatibility issues. Or is it some particular board where all users of the board experience this issue?
Is it just me or do they both look wayyyyyyyy more stoned than normal?
You were the only one stoned here buddy.
@@GholaTleilaxu I beg to differ , I know atleast 20% of the viewer are in California 🤷♂️
If so.. Its cool! Being High for me helps in games!!
1:11 had me rolling! Fantastic editing, as always.
i loved this guys. You got to do it more often. We know it would be very difficult to bounce around shooting these, but i see a very nice potential in it.
Finally, you two together in a video. I’ve been waiting so long for this. Now if we could get you two and LTT in one video. xD
Hmm. Both of them are in Linus Roast
Linus really dropped the ball on this one ;)
Oh neato. Looking forward to tomorrow's EVGA stream. I like the lighting setup you guys did!
Nothing makes you question your whole life more than picking computer parts.
caRn WRONG! I hAvE a Ryzen 5 2600x!
@caRn Where the fuck did that even come from? Nothing in his comment AT ALL gave any hint to leaning one way or another.
You two seem to work well together... I'd like to see more of the two of you co-building and chatting.
My favorites are usually the "special guest" vids like this.
I like Steve hes a real chilled dude.
9 months later...I still want to build my first PC............still haven’t bought a single part with all these parts and prices coming out back to back to back.
I have been watching both your channels nonstop and it has been making my super indecisive self question myself every single second of every given moment.
I hate you both and yet I love you both.
Edit: guys...the replies are just making me question myself even more 😂
Edit 2: Ok. Intel vs AMD is like Xbox vs PS at this point. I don’t choose one or the other. What I am struggling with is finally building my first PC.
As it stands I was finally about to go Z390 and 9900K, 2080Ti, and then Zen 2/super/Navi came out and now I can’t decide whether I want to go Z390/9900K or X570/3950X/Navi, and super/Navi.
Edit 3. RANT. Some user decides, because I have been saving up for what feels like forever, to build my first system thinks I am rich and decides to criticize me by stating I am rich and having first world problems without having any personal info on me is beyond ridiculous. I have been reading all the helpful comments in hopes of finally making a decision, but then asshats like Rami Bros decides to critique my character without knowing anything about me is beyond absurd. If you have nothing of value to bring to the table, please refrain from making an input. This has been helpful an enjoyable for me until I read such a stupid reply. Sorry for the rant.
Dealing with the EXACT same situation 😭
@@shadoze4267 Yo, it's Amazon Prime Day. You can't lose on a cpu purchase.
C G i’m just hoarding money towards the end of the year and then I’ll splurge lol right now its looking like AMD’s 3900x and a 2080 super or 2080 ti
Never wait on computer parts. either buy everything all at once or don't and wait out for a good sale day. Never buy computer parts piece by piece at different times unless you already have a computer built and doing it for upgrading. Longer you wait the older the parts are and more newer models come out if you want to wait for cheaper prices.
Same but its been like 2 years now lol
Look. Steve is finally in a sharp looking Video. XD XD XD Nice to see you bois getting along!!!
I really liked this video format, really good info. I want more of these!
Loved the topic and loved seeing Steve on the channel.
Sh*t man! I thought you were enemies! my whole life.... IS A LIE!
Competitors, not enemies... there's a world of difference. Usually the greater the level of competition, the greater the level of mutual respect.
CAC2244 Should I raise the “SARCASM” flag now or later?
Imagine if AMD and Intel would sit down like this lol
@@ronaldbeer5604 hope that's sarcasm because they have.
Intel CPUs with AMD gpus
@@ronaldbeer5604 They did. Hades canyon.
Excellent video!! Love it when there is actual conversation and realism and the fan boy crap is set aside. Excellent job fellas.
This was great! I love the honesty. It would be really cool to see this with GPUs as well... Even if it's just Nvidia cards and their corresponding CPUs
I just love to see you guys together please more videos you 2 are the best.
Many thanks.
Steve is a genius! Funniest thing about this video is Steve wants to chime in and Jay cuts him off! Lol Yes it is Jay's stream butttt. 🤣
Man it would be so awesome if you guys had an overclocking battle,in the same studio! Hope that's on deck for tomorrow!?! 👍
Question for you both, can you make a list of games/programs and the maximum number of threads they use?
Why don't you run the test yourself? Open system monitor and set it to display the cpu activity. Then launch a game. You will be able to see what each core is doing, Same goes for any program, things like video rendering tend to max out all the cores, where games usually only use a single or a few threads.
@@Calendyr not anymore
@@ReLoadXxXxX What do you mean?
@@Calendyr I have but don't have, or want, all the current top games. Thought it'd be an interesting video for people to see. With programs I run, I'm very disappointed in how few threads the programs utilize.
gcc all cores. make -j 48 (#threads). proxmox, kvm?
For the record - Both you guys and your crews are awesome and helped me learn so much about PCs and PC building. Thank you guys.
(and gals. sorry if that seemed sexist. Just a general term)
Your hard work benchmarking the endless stream of new hardware is always appreciated.
I love this sort of video. Tech discussion is where it's at, in my opinion.
Either brand you go with at this point you'll be happy. I rather save a few bucks to get the around about same performance.
I agree Jay and steve sitting down and doing a cast is great, should do this more often. Love the breakdown and spitfiring of systems. Should def do this more often!
Well made guys, really simplified everything !!! Thanks !
Me: AMD or Intel for gaming and some schoolwork
This Video: Yes
lol
amd all the way because cheaper, you need those funds to pay for college
you're not gonna have a bad experience either way, but if you're not into overclocking and you're on a budget, just go AMD.
@HVAC Quality Assurance Yeah, I build on both platforms (not a TH-camr, in real life) and 9900k is still king of pure gaming and overclocking (9900k kills a 3950x at gaming), but there's a surge of AMD fanbois lately, so well, that's what I build mostly right now. For workstations I go AMD, for enthusiast builds, I go either 3900x or 9900k/ks depending on customer preference.
If you are on a budget ryzen 5 or 7. If you want a max gaming rig go 9900k. But imo intel doesn't realy have an asnwer to the ryzen 5 and 7 class in terms of overall value.
If you are a Linux user such as myself, then I feel AMD for APU/CPU/GPU is the way to go with the drivers being built right into the latest Linux Linux kernel updates.
Isn't that the same thing for Intel CPUs?
@@evanlin7767 More, or less, but can't say for their iGPU as the only Intel devices I currently own that work are an old ACER Asprie One ZG5 netbook with a 32bit Atom, and old Dell P4 DOS/Win 98 se/XP era build.
Agreed 100%. My all-red machine has given me 0 problems on Linux. Nvidia GPU drivers were an issue for me in the past and hearing their performance being gimped on purpose on Linux doesn't make me feel any better about them (not to mention GPU passthrough is a pain with them). Intel, well... Intel actually does okay with Linux stuff, but I feel better sticking with AMD CPUs for various reasons.
Which Linux distro is the best for current windows user who wants to migrate?
I heard a lot about Mint? Cinnamon??
*my Typical usages are for 3D (Blender), Video encode/decode and PS (Gimp?)
**Thanks in adv
Intel processors and iGPU's work fine on Linux. However, AMD processors absolutely destroy Intel's processors in Linux when you benchmark them. Just look at the Pentium n4200 on Ubuntu and then compare it to the AMD A10-9620p which runs on a significantly older and weaker architecture. My A10-9620p at the time I benchmarked it last was having thermal issues and even throttled during Geekbench but it still managed to pull off a rounded 4800 multi-core score. The Pentium n4200 which is the price point competition of the A10 (or it was before Ryzen mobile launched) tops out at around 3900. Both tests were run on Ubuntu 18.04 running Geekbench in the terminal. Start trying to compare gaming performance and even in games that prefer Intel processors the AMD processor will still usually outperform the Intel processor while on Linux. I haven't tested many games, and I don't think I've tested any that favor one brand over the other, only Skyrim and Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic 2. I don't have either laptop anymore to test anything else. I'm gonna only reference Skyrim for this because KOTOR 2 is old as hell and runs well on pretty much anything. I'm talking old Skyrim by the way, not the remaster.
Settings were-
1366x768 resolution
No anisotropic filtering
No AA
Shadows on Medium
Textures on Medium
Render distance set to the middle of the bar on each slider
Fixed Shadows and FPS mod installed. Without this mod the game is unplayable on either because of frame skipping and artifacting caused by shadows
Ubuntu 18.04 for OS
No software running in the background
The AMD system did have 4gb more RAM, but in Ubuntu neither system ever hit 4gb of RAM usage to begin with. They both came close to around 3.7-3.8gb while running the game.
AMD system specs-
AMD A10-9620p
8gb single channel DDR4 RAM at 1866MHz. Man this generation of AMD mobile CPU's was weird
Radeon R5 integrated Bristol Ridge graphics.
1tb HDD
Intel system specs-
Intel Pentium n4200
4gb LPDDR3 RAM at 1866MHz, don't know if it was dual channel or not.
Intel HD 505 graphics
64gb eMMC storage
Running through the opening mission on both laptops with the same settings in the same room with the same ambient temperature, the Intel laptop ran the game at 22FPS pretty consistently. I didn't log it, just watched the numbers and it floated around 18-22fps most of the time. The AMD laptop made the Intel laptop look like weak. Ran the game at a solid 35-60FPS. There's a lot more fluctuation with the framerate on the AMD processor but it's overall much higher.
I don't have experience with AMD's dedicated cards on Linux and no experience firsthand with Nvidia on Linux at all. Only with those two laptops. And the Pentium was only temporary because it wasn't my laptop. For Linux devices AMD absolutely stomps the ass of the competition. But in other operating systems it's not such an easy decision. Intel definitely works, I'm not saying Intel is BAD in Linux. I mean look at Chrome OS and Cloudready. Both are Linux based operating systems that Intel absolutely dominates the market in. Intel just isn't the best processor to go for in a Linux system where gaming is going to be a focus in my experience. However Intel's heat management and power efficiency are significantly better on the laptop side for the older processors like the Pentium n4200. The A10 took a repaste to get the damn thing just to stop throttling after an hour of sitting idle. It's not bad anymore though. I still adamantly despise HP for their cooler design but it at least stopped throttling. But if raw FPS is a must have and you want Linux, AMD is king. Sorry for the rant OP I just felt like this fits with what you said and helps validate it even more.
Great show, liked the onscreen notes: they were more specific than the lips are moving but I can't understand moments. LOL Steve hold the record...
Good topic and great discussion. Keep these vids coming guys!
this actually made things so much more clear for me. It was nice to hear that there are overlaps between the 2 CPUs, Wanting to upgrade my PC but not sure what direction to go. Value for money AMD is cheaper for motherboards and CPU and still preforms well enough for what I need. I'm not a hard out gamer but a gamer in the end.
Remember Athlon XP 1700+ (or the Barton's ) vs intel P4 lower freq. but same or better performance
Hell yeah! Those were the days :) I still have my 2500+ Barton.
Had an athlon 2200+, was awesome at it's time. What I want to forget is when amd was selling the athlon 64 3200 for 1400£ 😔
Pinmod time
@@LoneBlade5 I've lost a XP 1700+ bcz of that... 😢
Yes Intel might remember too, they had to buy the benchmark programs to make P4 worth it.
Loving the lighting, first thing i noticed when i started the video.
It's awesome to see you guys do a video together! Hopefully you get a chance to do it again! Oh and right now the 2600 is down to $120, and the 2600X is $150.
Two things made me go full team-red when I built my computer; bang-per-buck and ethics.
I will never forget how Intel bribed companies to make them not buy AMD, and how Nvidia with their Geforce Partner Program tried to force distributors to pick a side.
Always vote with your wallet.
At least 60% of people don't give a single fuck about ethics, as they're the type of people who'd trample their own mother on black friday sale just to save $50 on something.
@@shawnpitman876 I must add though that some mothers are a bit crazy, and so their usefulness could be debated... (Trust me when I talk about crazy, as my mother is the cuckoo who's nest the 1 flew over😂😂😂)
Intel didn't need to bribe actually since the core I series shitted every AMD's offering at that time
To be fair AMD would have done the same if they had the upper hand. Don't think companies will be "ethical" if they can get a better bottom line by working around the rules.
@@loicjeannin6233 2003-2006, Dell offered ZERO AMD computers, even though their CPUs were in fact stronger. Learn some BASIC information on what's gone down before you spew your ignorance.
Intel was paying them up to a billion dollars a year to do so.
I'd love too see 9900k and 3900x gaming benchmarks with Hyper-V or VMware workstation VM's running in the background with some workloads on them(my use case would be a Plex VM and some domain controllers/databases/application servers for my home lab) I'm trying to figure out if those of us who run home labs and game or run media centres and game can do it all on one machine now with little compromise, and it would be a good way to demonstrate modern schedulers and the ability to run background workloads
this was such a good discussion. More of it please! viewing on my 8 year old laptop with a i7 2630m inside, which runs at lowly 2 ghz with 4 cores, 8 threads xD. build my own, very first gaming pc at the beginning of the year when the new amd 3rd gen ryzen were not out, i was on the brink of waiting and wanting a new pc NOW. so I gave in and bought an r5 2600 with a vega 64. happy so far, have to get into OC more to get maybe a little bit more performane out, but the extreme performance hunting will not be my primary concern... too much hassle and peak performance means a heavy power draw, running into cooling and noise problems... well, I rather lower ma graphics and run a smooth machine.
superb video gents. Very interesting. you should do more co-hosting videos
Steve is always such a Cheshire cat Rapunzel when hes around other people.
mkd1r HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA That made me laugh so hard.
Lol
Iam happy with my 2700X. 60% music production, 40% gaming.
nice, good cpu
I picked up a 2700X for only $199 on Prime Day. I'm happy with it
Love my 2700X man! I payed full price and no regrets. I leave it at stock and it happily boosts itself as needed. 90% gaming, 10% watching video's like this :)
Motherboard recommendation for 2700x anyone?
@@dsmooth7183 a b350/b450 is pretty cheap. I run a ROG Strix B350F though I did have to flash the bios up to the latest firmware. Z- boards are nice but cost more.
this is great, please continue to do these!
Hey jay great channel ,
I think yourself & Steve gamers nexus
Are the best on here and you both work great together as hosts
I hope you do more shows together
As it's really good
1950x checking in here and I feel no regrets on cpu choice. Yes the new stuff wipes the floor with it but but I had a few good years on this guy. For me the 1950x was akin to the first time I stepped into the hedt world with x58, more memory, high core count, and pcie lanes for days. I really am looking forward to the third gen threadripper as it will be the next big leap for my system.
Same here still staying with the 1950x until maybe 3rd gen or 4th if it’s even supported on my mono.
5:32 - Nice sync
This was great to watch. Do you guys do a podcast based on hardware discussion?
You two gotta do this more often keep up with the competition!
I jumped on 3700x, I just liked it... guess I need to become a streamer now :(
My condolences.
Don't worry, Comic Lake Intel CPUs will be out in 2020 featuring the 14nm++++ architecture
You forgot a couple of pluses there
@@My_Old_YT_Accountthey will eventually have to come up with something new.
super14nm
14nmprofessional
14nm16+
You still have most part of Zen 2/X570 platform made in 14LP+++.
Can't wait for the 14nm++++ super edition!
Everything matters. That's why it's poorly clockable and still have quite high power consumption.
A great video. Indeed, still new stuff we are getting into. New changes with architecture that are game changing. There was definitely some questions answered. Yet, still hard decisions when rebuilding with progress.
Great coliab vid guys! I always enjoy these.