You definitely did not deserve that company screwing you over. I'm absolutely certain that Jay hooked you up with some amazing quality parts! :) Keep doing what you're doing! P.S.: Jay, pin her comment please?
I'm a now former Mod and Ambassador of Artesian builds, they removed my mod because I backed KiaPiaa and the 2 others poor streamers that got done dirty, I then terminated my contract. I'm actually embarrassed to say I own a PC from them. Then the 3 attempted apologizes from the CEO were laughable. Also the company's FTB has been Forfeited according to records discovered by another person on Twitter. I spent 20 months with the company as a Ambassador and was mod for over a year. I was one of the first 50 followers on their Twitch, nights where the CEO Noah was streaming with no viewers except me. I kept him company so he wasn't alone. I feel like I've wasted over a year of my life dealing with them. Sorry for the rant, just wanted to give my input from someone who's watched them grown from nothing to something.
@@ZE0XE0 I wouldn't say in the streaming community, there's just a major ego problem with the CEO of Artesian, and looking back, I can see when his sense of entitlement started taking shape, because of when he started working with big streamers driving sales up, his cash flow kept going up and up, and money makes people crazy, and the money got to him I think. Really said to see. But if you watch his apology video on Twitter, he doesn't care if you watch his mannerism and listen to his tone closely.
@Shraf2k FTB Forfeited: The business entity was suspended or forfeited by the Franchise Tax Board for failure to meet tax requirements (e.g., failure to file a return, pay taxes, penalties, interest).
I still remember watching Jayz's video of him quitting his job and deciding to go full-time on youtube. it's so good to see Jayz hit the 3.6 million+ and now a Tech Influencer to the rescue of another Tech streamer. This is so encouraging.
Guess I should've clarified when I posted the half link. You copy/paste it into the search bar and then it's the first video on the list. It does the same thing as a whole link except you gotta put in more work to get to the video and that's the only other way besides searching for specific keywords which is what I did to find the vid in the first place.
i feel half bad for referring other channels but him linus and Gamer Nexus are basically and well 1 im probably forgetting others this isnt the point but 2 we should keep helping them have bigger impact so it turns out into a real public tribunal. how even about extending it to other industry O-o
My house burned down a few months ago and I lost everything, filming gear, collection etc. The awesome retrogaming community all stepped up to help me. Like you say, the positive things that happen like this are amazing. Nice work!
@@nuggystan9128 Electrical fault in the garage. Swept though the lower half of the house destroying my retro computer collection. I have some videos about it on my channel, but I'm not here to shill my vids, just say how awesome people were when they helped me.
I know this is an old video, but I've only really gotten into your stuff since starting my journey with my first self-built pc a couple months ago, and I just wanna say, your parenting methodology and your general desire to take a stand for what's right keeps me around as a subscriber and new PC owner.
Apparently, this isn't the first time Artesian Builds did this. This went viral because AB did this live. But on some of their giveaways, they disqualified some of their winners through PMs, telling them their subs count are too low for them to receive thousand of dollars worth of free stuff.
While they are scum for doing that they should have had requirements for qualification. I assume they don't have those requirements because they want every streamer they can pushing their products. If they had a sub count requirement they know so many streams wouldn't bother pushing their products if they didn't have the chance of winning a pc so when the winner isn't a higher value "ambassador" they disqualify them.
What made this all inevitable is how they namedropped Intel as if Intel would be mad if some little scrub won a big prize. They exposed their sponsor to all the negativity they created. I'd love to see them get ganked for running an illegal lottery.
My friend sold a GPU to them, Artesian Builds tried to scam my friend after buying it by claiming it never arrived to get their money back. Completely and utterly failed at it too. So this isnt the only sketchy stuff they've done.
Wow!! Didn't expect to see you on a pc based channel. You're motivation and pure love for your community and how many people you have helped is astonishing. Much respect and love to you.💚🍻
@@oceyho Artesian Builds companies are federally suspended for tax evasion as of now. That means, if you want to sue them, they are forbidden by law to defend themselves in court. You can walk over them. It also means they have no rights to their company name. If you want, you can start a business or IP and call it Artesian Builds. They can't do anything about it. I suggest all the streamers hurt by this go after them now. No delay. They are done.
Watched about this happening, that CEO from Artisan Build deserves what he's got I just feel sorry for the employees who are in the toilet now. Just hope they get jobs, that's awesome what you have done for the streamer, well done and hope the future is rosy for you and the streamer.
Not just the employees but anyone who relied on them. Literally dozens and dozens of people are out on hundreds of thousands of dollars because their money was taken and their rig was either never built or mostly built but they can't get them anymore with it all being under lock and key. Not to mention people who RMA'd stuff that they can't get back.
yeah i was kinda ALMOST on his side cause well... like my aunt has told me (when i asked for honest legal advice) "your small. nobody cares about you.". but HOLY HELL the guy was so smarmy. and the shady shit about him that came out id go as far to call him evil and stupid.
@@TheEchelon There are already people (like Gamers Nexus, etc.) trying to help these former employees who were left out to dry. This might be better for them in the long run, as apparently Artesian Builds wasn't likely to last long even without this scandal.
In all seriousness, the events surrounding the firings suggest an issue with either the taxman or plain old bankruptcy. This whole cluster frack is just unfortunate/brilliant timing.
Assuming that's your company's name, misspelling it doesn't exactly reflect competence so you might wanna look up "greengrocer's apostrophe" and set it straight ... cheers 👍
I remember Jay asking about what sort of content we wanted a while back. This sort of stuff is amazing - I don't mean just giving away free PCs to people (that would be ridiculous!), I mean such a humble and positive view of the community as a while as well as such a phenomenally well thought out response to what has been an awful situation for someone. Massively appreciate the positivity and keep spreading the love!
I was glad to see this upload and her getting the pc she deserved. Even if it was from someone other than the group that owed her one. But I was also sad to see that she hasn’t posted a video since the unboxing video of the pc. Wonder why she stopped??
Not only does this shed a lot of light in how amazing of a person you are, but also EVGA and the other brands that didnt even hesitate to give some next level ballin parts. Just makes me love people like you and brands like EVGA even more!
This is why I follow Jay and have for 6-7 years. A pretentious moron mistreats someone, so Jay uses his experience and connections to make it right! Jay your a role model for all those who do find success. Keep it up.
Thank you and EVGA for stepping up to fix this awful situation. This is what the tech community is about, helping the underdog. She'll put this rig to good use.
EVGA is the GOAT when it comes to their customer service. Over a year ago, I bought their 3090 off Amazon and it exploded day 1 (honestly have no idea why. I was playing league when it happened.), so I went through their RMA process and it was so easy and the rep was super friendly and knowledgeable. They give you the option of putting a deposit on the replacement, so they send you the new one at the same time you send in the broken one. Got my replacement in two days and it's been going strong ever since.
@@makatron I've had no issues with EVGA, for the most part. As for Asus, after having to RMA a motherboard and then RMA the replacements they sent me two times before finally getting a semi working one, with the process taking TWO months, my trust in Asus took a bit of a hit overall. I'm currently having to wait for a bios update to see if I can finally get my 4th stick of RAM to work in the new motherboard they sent me.
Couldn't agree more!! Good on you Jay. I'm actually more impressed that you're fully admonishing the company. Anyone, everywhere can make a mistake or a series of them, but when they realise that mistake it is all in how they handle it that is most important. Good service doesn't mean pandering to every customer, it means putting right what is wrong when it is out of the customers hands and is something you did.
lol this chick got multiple PC's sent to her. Jay made her one and a couple other companies sent her free gaming PC's after they heard what happen. that's so dope the community hooked her up.
Shame about the others that were also knocked back! Can we try and get others to help out the other streamers that were overlooked? I had listed them, unfortunately the comments have been deleted.
EVGA is really a great company. I lost access to my email for a month and during that month I got an email about being able to purchase a 3090. I had been in the queue for a year. I emailed them explaining my situation and I gave proof I was temporarily locked out of it and they let me buy one! They really do give people the best even in really challenging times.
Dude i'll hold your word man. My first build just finish and needed an aio which i already bought and waiting for shipping. The aio was EVGA i heard they make a great quality product. Had my hope so high now 😂.
@@zanebaird1579 I want to build a 2008-2010 era PC with multiple GPUs. It was the the dream PC I had back then and could never afford. I missed out on a majority of the multi-gpu setups. I did have a couple of GTX 970s in sli for a while. I got in in the tail end of it.
And that Jay, is why you’re as big as you are. Such a whole hearted guy, even in the darkest of times. Huge props to you and any and all vendors who reached out, still some really good folks in the world.
Come for the hardware reviews, stay for the integrity. Massive respect to Jay, his crew, and all the others who help fight the good fight. Stuff like this is why I will always be a huge fan of this channel.
You guys did a good thing. I was gobsmacked after seeing how they treated her _LIVE_ on stream. So holier than thou, condescending, cringy, and just ugh. I had hoped this all gets spun into something positive for her. Best of luck Kiapia. Hold steady and stay the course.
For sure. That really pushed it over the edge for me like why be like that on stream? I just watch that and the only thing I can think is "What the fuck is wrong with you?"
@@zack9912000 I doubt there is much you can sue them for, the person didn't lose any money so there is probably not many ways to do it, but Im not a lawyer
@@Starfire-nv3nk There is definitely a case to be had, whether it would be worth the time and effort - especially since their name is pretty much dirt right now anyway - is questionable though.
Probably because she got positive promotion from a ton of different people who have millions of subscribers ^^ I've seen a few big people partner with Artesian builds in the past, and they now all made videos distancing themselves from them, because they didn't want people watching their older content and think that they support people who actually just commit lottery fraud (or equivalent) live on camera. So, due to larger streamers covering their ass, she got a ton of well-deserved positive attention.
@@BerrysTC that is actually entirely irrelevant to the discussion. As usual, sexists just can't stay on topic and have to wedge their dumb opinions in everywhere.
It's nice to read about the bad guys being taken down, turning this into such a feel-good story. Congratulations Kiapia. Great work by everyone and outstanding help by JayzTwoCents for always caring about the little guy, and knowing one's roots and from whence they came.
So glad you linked to Kiapiaa's Twitch channel!! Two other streamers, strwbrrymoogle and protezee, were also swindled out of their prizes by the folks at AB yesterday, so everybody make sure to check them out and give them your support as well!
Makes me feel good to know that people like Jay and Steve are out there advocating for us. These are genuine people who care, and I am glad to be (if only a very, very small part) of their world. Thanks Jay.
I personally have nothing good to say about people who do things like that at all, but thankfully theres a silver lining here or gold af with JayzOverkillCents over here lol. Good job man!
Amazing how companies continue to massively fumble such easy wins. Talk about snatching defeat out of the jaws of victory. This all could have been a feel good story, instead they douched the fuck out and will pay the price.
So happy for her, you are incredible, Ive struggled trying to make TH-cam content for over a year and it's can be very discouraging and with limited hardware I can't show off the amazing graphics and perfect frames, it really makes you feel like you can't do much at all, it's really nice to see you do this
Because of this i'm planning to get a EVGA than a Zotac gpu both are more or less in the same price but videos like this sways audience and i'm one of them
@@milanfan81 Zotac are pretty good, but I did have a Zotac that died, shortly after purchase. I've never had an issue like that with EVGA. Small sample size, long time ago, etc, but enough for me not to want to chance them again. That was an expensive card too, so I was not at all happy about it.
@@milanfan81 I didn't buy directly from Zotac, as I recall. In the end, I was able to return through the online retailer for a full refund. Not sure if they ever investigated, I'd assume so, since it was an RMA type deal, and it was not a cheap piece of hardware, but I never found anything out. Bought the same card, from a different manufacturer, as I recall. It's been a while ... it was nVidia's top of the line, at the time though. Pretty it sure was the GTX 295, as that rings a bell and it was the right kind of time.
Getting royally screwed over by a company is the best thing you can hope for in the Twitch/YT sphere. Also kudos to Kiapiaa for rejecting the "we are kinda sorry" PC from Artesian Builds.
@@bigjuicyvert8751 so, you're speaking after the fact as if anyone should seek their opportunity to get screwed over . Does not compute, brother ..does not compute.
tell that to all the people that get screwed behind closed doors or in contract negotiations that you never hear about. The situations that do get attention may help the screwee, but you have no idea how many small creators there are getting fucked over all the time that you don't hear about. Not to mention fans that accumulate from drama usually don't stick around for all that long unless more drama ensues.
it used to be the mantra that there's no such thing as bad advertising, but the internet sure has changed that, hasn't it. i hope Artesian Builds gets themselves a new law team and rewards teams because they're severely lacking
sucks for the employees but man... that guy needs to get punched in the mouth. Gets to get bought out too and still be an absolutely insufferable, resentful, crap person.
Faith in humanity restored. Seriously, whilst it’s depressing the things people will say or do to others, it also brings out the best of others. I’m happy to be apart of your community Jay. Never change ❤️
Seeing this whole thing unfold was so sad. My company North Florida Computers reached out to her because of this. To think there are companies who do this is very sad. We love all out our creators, community, customers, etc. Without each and every one of them our company wouldn't be possible. This is by far not the way to treat anyone and I personally feel so bad for Kiapiaa even though so many good things have come of it, I know how it feels to be treated that way and it sucks. That being said our company as a whole completely supports Kiapiaa
@@Lucidilluminate if it was a plug, you could've written a handful of words. You mentioned your company name once and the rest of the comment was supportive towards kiapia and the community. Unfortunately, a lot of us are conditioned to always think the worst. Seems to me that you're good people, back up words with actions... and trust me, you'll be rewarded 👍
I took your comment same as EVGA a company wanting to help. props to all.. I just noticed you are a tad far from me as I am West side of the panhandle but will keep you on my radar.
Jay you are actually an amazing person. I've been following you for quite a while at this point and you've helped me so much! You are a class act and I couldn't be more proud to be apart of your community.
This is why I like Jay, he's such a humble guy it's crazy how much he cares about all streamers or content creators, he's my favourite toutuber hands down.
As a small streamer from the UK, saving for my first pc build since the original rainbow six game, I'm grateful to see people standing up for Kiapia, I currently enter every free pc draw I believe I'm eligible for, and what happened with her would devastate me, on the plus side though, it's allowed me to find yourself and your videos which will help me get back knowledge of the sort of things I will need in a build. Thank you for remembering we start at 0.
Seeing companies treat their own ambassadors like that, I was also an ambassador there, fills me with discourage and worry of what else can we meet along the way, you know? But im really glad to see she getting the treatment! Making it as a Twitch streamer today is incredibly hard if you want to be successful, and having a company shit on your name in public like that would've made me so angry! Kiapia, im glad you're getting some traction with this even though you never deserved to be treated like that in the first place!
Even more reason to support you and your sponsors. You’ve been using your platform to do right by the community for a long time. Sincerest thanks 🙏🏼 for all that you do and the lives you change for the better!
Jay, thank you. You've worked with companies like Intel, Asus, and EVGA time and time again to give to the community. You've helped your community with the PC gaming/ streaming center. You've helped individuals that couldn't afford upgrades and people that volunteer to help the community. Now you're helping streamers getting shafted by the companies supposedly sponsoring them. You're a total class act, thanks for being a part of the PC community.
I have to say this is one of the coolest things I've seen in a long time as somebody that's trying to get into streaming as well this is such a conference booster I really appreciate how the community comes together and I appreciate what you did for her
as a very small streamer myself if this happened to me what they did to kia, id feel so incredibly shit and be hesitant to partner with another company again. so proud of all the support shes getting and all the hate artesian builds is getting F artesian builds to the moon
So if she ends up getting a bunch of good PCs, she can just keep one or two (for a two PC setup) and then give away the rest throughout the next weeks and everybody wins while we get to spread a good message: "Don't be a dick!" Edit: Checked her latest stream and within the first few minutes she said she would be giving a setup to her brother and give extras away.
I had no idea these scumbags were out there. AND I just bought a system. Glad I didn't run into them. Anyway, well done riding to the rescue. GOOD JOB! You've just guaranteed yourself a permanent place on my TH-cam subscription list.
Sounds like that Artesian Builds is an unscrupulous company that'll hopefully be investigated probably because of a pretentious & unscrupulous leader. Excellent by you, EVGA, & others in turning most of this into lemonade.
2:40 Turns out there is something wrong with that: you're not allowed to run a chance-based giveaway that demands something of value from the participants, because that makes it a lottery rather than a giveaway. And legally speaking, producing advertisement value for the company running the giveaway does count for this. In fact, even demanding the ambassadors to have that referral banner on their Twitch about page might actually qualify as a requirement to do something of value to Artesian Builds. Even things like requiring participants to fill out surveys can be verboten if the resulting survey data has business value to the company. In the US, only State governments are allowed to run lotteries. And even outside the US, there's at minimum a lot of red tape involved in legally running a lottery. Not to mention private lotteries aren't just illegal to run: they're illegal to participate in. Getting caught up in this mess might actually cause harm to Ambassadors who just participated in it, if the US government decides to be a dick about this. So this stuff going high-profile might actually change the way these things are run in the tech community going forward. You can make it a giveaway where you just need to register for free, no additional requirements, and that's fine. You can make it a contest where the best Ambassador is awarded the rig, removing the element of a random draw, and it's also fine. But what Artesian Builds did was 100% a lottery: there was an element of chance that couldn't be removed by performing better than other participants, and participants were required to generate an ROI for Artesian Builds, which is obviously a consideration requirement. Which means all three elements of a lottery (prize, chance and consideration) were met.
ok so what im getting from what you said is that I don't understand anything and you are a very smart person 😅. Man i really need to get more educated with things like these lol
I've followed your channel for almost nine years. This proves your character and integrity well beyond any doubt. Gives hope to others there's still genuine human beings on this troubled planet. THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO!!!
That was really cool Jay. Totally made my day. Kudos to EVGA and everyone else who offered to help. Shame on Artesian. The bad publicity this will cost them will be way higher than the cost of the PC. Enjoy your fab rig Kiapia.
Jay, I've been subbed to you for years. Like before skunk works. You have never changed and i hope you never do man. I was hoping to get a pc building channel like yours but life happened and with kids and school that dream dwindled into non existence but i still love computers with a passion and your channel. This was amazing to watch. Thank you for not forgetting your roots and keeping the positive vibes throughout everything!!! Much love to you, yours, and all the small people grinding away!
My favorite video will always be the massive gaming monitor where his face gets illuminated by explosions from the screen. I have a gif of it as a regular reaction. I love how excited he gets and how kind he is.
Shout out to Jay for being an amazing human being and "big brother" to his fellow creater. I love how artesian builds has gone out of business since this video. I hope she is doing well and is able to use this to create something great with her channel. Good luck!!
This is what makes JayzTwoCents awesome! He truly cares about the gaming community and wants to help out in any way he can. Thank you for using the influence you have to do what is right.
I felt something was wrong with artesian after watching for a while and unfollowed them, now im really glad i did it. Anyway, we are blessed to have someone like you in the PC gaming / enthusiast community, i wish you the best and also congrats to kiapia as well and i hope she enjoys her new pc
And the good thing is: This will probably work on increasing her viewer base. Thanks Jay, you and your team are awesome!! Btw, we are missing Nick and Phil on screen!
This is the first video i have seen of yours and i have to day as an Army Infantry Combat veteran this is amazing to see todays world needs more people like you.
Love how you tackled this and for anyone who stepped in to help, specially EVGA. Whenever my next build is gonna happen it's gonna be all EVGA or as much as it can be. Thank you Jay for your continued help and support to your community. It's amazing to know there's still people out there who can and are willing to help others when shit like this happens.
It pisses me off so much, no one deserves to be treated like that, man! And you doing this, only makes me feel happy to be your viewer, Jay. May you and Kia haves more and more ever...
Remember your roots, by all means, but even more basically then that, both shops like this and individuals at large need to remember simple human decency. Being insulated by the internet as a buffer is no reason for Artesian or anyone else to engage in such shameful conduct. Must we all be saints? No, of course not. But we should all remember to be human, and humane. I almost forgot to say congrats on the fantastic build and your own generosity in this mess. Thanks for being an example of how it should be done.
It's been a little over a week and I'm still coming back to this just for a quick feel-good reminder of how awesome the PC hardware community is. Thanks again Jay for being an awesome person first, and an awesome content creator second.
I've done business with Artesian - overpriced, shipping materials and packaging quality is disastrously poor, and they don't follow customer guidance or requests well at all. Needless to say, I no longer buy from them.
It's likely that no one will do business with them ever again. Artesian Builds companies are federally suspended for tax evasion as of now. That means, if you want to sue them, they are forbidden by law to defend themselves in court. You can walk over them. It also means they have no rights to their company name. If you want, you can start a business or IP and call it Artesian Builds. They can't do anything about it. I suggest all the streamers hurt by this go after them now. No delay.
@@mckrackin5324 Only a madman with nothing to lose would probably be dumb enough to start a business named Artesian Builds (at least as a PC builder) seeing how disastrous this fiasco is.
@@lordrald09 You don't have to do business. You can just create an LLC and claim the name. When they get out of court, they can buy it back from you if they want it but I doubt they will.
@@jonathonrobinson6081 It's literally the law. I tried to link the law but links are forbidden here so I'll quote the most relevant paragraph. "What makes the suspension of a corporation drastically different from bankruptcy and dissolution is this: a bankrupt or dissolved corporation can legally continue to defend itself and prosecute claims, while a suspended corporation cannot". Google "The Problem of Suspended Corporations in the Present Economic Downturn" and open the PDF.
All too often us smaller content creators get the shaft like this and it's good to see that there's still good in the world now and then. If I could do something like this myself, I would do so In a heartbeat. Thank you for stepping up and doing so for all of us that wish we could.
@@PyroInferno110 I guess I've just seen a lot of unlucky few and had some bad luck myself the past couple years then. It's good to hear it's not widespread.
Glad you jumped in Jay - sadly I see lots of this happening. The company see they weren’t going to get the kick back via a (thank you review) to her followers. You can clearly see it wasn’t going to get the exposure they thought they had (paid for) via a computer. Thus they didn’t think they were going to get their money out of her, which can be hardly called a giveaway at that point. It’s a real shame, glad someone like you watches for this kinda stuff.
What a bunch of derps! I was actually planning to buy a PC from them to support my friend's Twitch stream ( a small streamer like kiapia) in their ambassador program. Glad I saw this video! That's $5K they won't be gettin' !!!
Yeah. It sucks that their CEO had to be a dock. Like, if they wanted clicks to sales, this dick pretty much shot the ambassador program in the foot because what he did ADVERSELY affects the entire idea of the ambassador program.
Imagine getting screwed over by some random Pc company and then Instead getting a PC built by the god Jay himself I'm sure its gonna be more reliable as well. Good job jay :)
In fairness, this wasn't some "random pc company". They provided PCs and had the backing of many large streamers and frequently did PC give aways. Shows how out of touch the CEO is with what was their community.
@@realNoMeeIts more in the fact that they were a random person who works for a company while Jay is more or else his whole brand and this doesnt change the fact that id have Jay build me a PC before I let a radom company do it thats know for the PCs crashing
@@caseys1606 What do you mean a random person who works for a company? If you mean the people who built the giveaway pcs, they streamed all their builds, were known and liked in the community and did the giveaways to actually help people who couldn't afford better equipment. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to tell you your preference of who builds your pc is wrong, just trying to highlight that a dumbass CEO ruined a lot of good things for some good people.
Man... stories like this always get right to the core. I'm talking about "villains" and heroes in real life. I know you're not seeking recognition for this. Absolute respect, you're such a great dude.
been watching for a few years now and love how much of a legend he is. normally there is not a reason to celebrate a company basically bottoming out. In this case where a company tells someone they cant have their giveaway because they aren't "big" enough for their taste, would be like telling someone they cant have the mega millions they won because they are to poor, its ridiculous. but i will be checking out her stream and showing love and support. keep this community strong friends.
I've been watching JayzTwoCents for 2 1/2 years now, and this only confirms the impeccable character this channel represents. Not being sappy, just saying it like it is. Good job guys!
Hey Jay! I started watching you when I first got into building my own PCs. It does me proud to see you stand behind people with positive efforts like this!
Watching it all unfold on Kia's channel was really heartwarming to see because people being kind like this is what the Twitch community should be like.
For all the crazy stuff happening in this world, taking a wrong, and just going about fixing it seems like a damn good idea. Nice work JayZ and team. @Kiapia, enjoy the rig!
Two things…First: Jay, this is awesome…great thing to do. Kiapia, that was a BS thing that happened to you, and it’s great that you have people like Jay and his team, along with EVGA (which I’m sure aren’t the only ones:)), doing what they can to try and make it as right as possible…Second: Phil, your montages are the BEST in the TH-cam game to me. Keep up the great work guys!
Needed two custom system builds and found Artisan, checked for review and found this video needless to say we won't be using their services. Good looking out for the little guy Jay
THANK YOU! THIS IS SO INSANE AND IM SO GRATEFUL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU!
enjoy it i know we all would :)
Glad to see you’re gonna end up with a much better PC than you would’ve gotten from that BS drawing
You definitely did not deserve that company screwing you over. I'm absolutely certain that Jay hooked you up with some amazing quality parts! :) Keep doing what you're doing!
P.S.: Jay, pin her comment please?
You deserve this so much, so happy for you!
Nice to see still good people around, cheers from Argentina 🇦🇷 enjoy that Beatiful rig
I'm a now former Mod and Ambassador of Artesian builds, they removed my mod because I backed KiaPiaa and the 2 others poor streamers that got done dirty, I then terminated my contract. I'm actually embarrassed to say I own a PC from them. Then the 3 attempted apologizes from the CEO were laughable. Also the company's FTB has been Forfeited according to records discovered by another person on Twitter. I spent 20 months with the company as a Ambassador and was mod for over a year. I was one of the first 50 followers on their Twitch, nights where the CEO Noah was streaming with no viewers except me. I kept him company so he wasn't alone. I feel like I've wasted over a year of my life dealing with them. Sorry for the rant, just wanted to give my input from someone who's watched them grown from nothing to something.
seems theres a ton of toxicity in the streaming community.
If you enjoyed it then it wasn’t a waste. Gotta support people until they’ve proven themselves unworthy and not the other way around.
FTB?
@@ZE0XE0 I wouldn't say in the streaming community, there's just a major ego problem with the CEO of Artesian, and looking back, I can see when his sense of entitlement started taking shape, because of when he started working with big streamers driving sales up, his cash flow kept going up and up, and money makes people crazy, and the money got to him I think. Really said to see. But if you watch his apology video on Twitter, he doesn't care if you watch his mannerism and listen to his tone closely.
@Shraf2k FTB Forfeited: The business entity was suspended or forfeited by the Franchise Tax Board for failure to meet tax requirements (e.g., failure to file a return, pay taxes, penalties, interest).
This was such a dad move. I knew it before you said "If my daughter..."
Thanks for keeping the world turning for this woman and people like her.
He’s a dad and we would do anything for you are children , we really love you more than you will ever know.
Same!
She reminds me if my 19yr old.. Glad that his inner dad brought this about! Cheers 🍻 for your kindness!
@@spankbuda3084 Dude what are you rambling about?
@@spankbuda3084 yikes
I still remember watching Jayz's video of him quitting his job and deciding to go full-time on youtube. it's so good to see Jayz hit the 3.6 million+ and now a Tech Influencer to the rescue of another Tech streamer. This is so encouraging.
I'd love to see those, links?
@@freighttrain7143 /watch?v=IV6Go1IinGs
Links can’t be posted on TH-cam unless ur video creator because TH-cam ig
Guess I should've clarified when I posted the half link. You copy/paste it into the search bar and then it's the first video on the list. It does the same thing as a whole link except you gotta put in more work to get to the video and that's the only other way besides searching for specific keywords which is what I did to find the vid in the first place.
i feel half bad for referring other channels but him linus and Gamer Nexus are basically and well 1 im probably forgetting others this isnt the point but 2 we should keep helping them have bigger impact so it turns out into a real public tribunal. how even about extending it to other industry O-o
Major ups to Jay, EVGA, Corsair, Crucial, and all other companies that reached out.
Respect.
Cooler Master too ^-^ While not featured in this build they offered kiapia a fully paid sponsorship, love to see it!
Wow this is a killer PC !!! would be my total dream pc, especialy for the x570 dark😍🖤
Basically a no brainer, you can't get cheaper PR and you are doing the right thing so it is a win-win.
@@MrJack1987 you're not wrong, but as long as they are doing genuinely nice things I'm all for it. I'm sure they are doing it to be kind mostly.
My house burned down a few months ago and I lost everything, filming gear, collection etc. The awesome retrogaming community all stepped up to help me. Like you say, the positive things that happen like this are amazing. Nice work!
how did your house burn down if you don't mind me asking
@@nuggystan9128 most likely by a fire /s
@@nuggystan9128 Electrical fault in the garage. Swept though the lower half of the house destroying my retro computer collection. I have some videos about it on my channel, but I'm not here to shill my vids, just say how awesome people were when they helped me.
@@imjustroyal6808 actually lolled.
@@MarkFixesStuff
The funniest part of this situation is that the giveaway is sponsored by Intel and Jay gave Kiapiaa an AMD system. Talk about a double whammy :D
Lmao
Good Guy Jayzus Christ! 😂👏🏻 (Not to be confused with Steve AKA Tech Jesus 😁)
@@spankbuda3084 wheres intels comment about this?
I know this is an old video, but I've only really gotten into your stuff since starting my journey with my first self-built pc a couple months ago, and I just wanna say, your parenting methodology and your general desire to take a stand for what's right keeps me around as a subscriber and new PC owner.
Apparently, this isn't the first time Artesian Builds did this. This went viral because AB did this live. But on some of their giveaways, they disqualified some of their winners through PMs, telling them their subs count are too low for them to receive thousand of dollars worth of free stuff.
While they are scum for doing that they should have had requirements for qualification. I assume they don't have those requirements because they want every streamer they can pushing their products. If they had a sub count requirement they know so many streams wouldn't bother pushing their products if they didn't have the chance of winning a pc so when the winner isn't a higher value "ambassador" they disqualify them.
Cap
@@ster628 captain
What made this all inevitable is how they namedropped Intel as if Intel would be mad if some little scrub won a big prize. They exposed their sponsor to all the negativity they created.
I'd love to see them get ganked for running an illegal lottery.
My friend sold a GPU to them, Artesian Builds tried to scam my friend after buying it by claiming it never arrived to get their money back. Completely and utterly failed at it too. So this isnt the only sketchy stuff they've done.
I've been following this saga on Twitter and this is so freaking cool for Jay and co. to step in and do this.
I'm honestly enjoying how all the dirty laundry is coming out. kia came out on top and you love to see it.
well fucking deserved, glad you left that ambassador program
too bad she's using pronouns so I see why they did this
@@zZz-lf1gs wym?
@@SaturdayTwitch i mean what i mean, imagine using she her in 2022, fucking cringe
Love this. Its good to hold those accountable
Wow!! Didn't expect to see you on a pc based channel. You're motivation and pure love for your community and how many people you have helped is astonishing. Much respect and love to you.💚🍻
Brilliant Jay you've definitely put more than your two cents in there. 👏👏👏
Artesian Builds are one of the most garbage SI I have ever seen. Absolutely trash components choice and brutally overpriced.
@@oceyho Artesian Builds companies are federally suspended for tax evasion as of now. That means, if you want to sue them, they are forbidden by law to defend themselves in court. You can walk over them. It also means they have no rights to their company name. If you want, you can start a business or IP and call it Artesian Builds. They can't do anything about it. I suggest all the streamers hurt by this go after them now. No delay. They are done.
Haha I see you everywhere dude. You're a cool and good dude.
Watched about this happening, that CEO from Artisan Build deserves what he's got I just feel sorry for the employees who are in the toilet now. Just hope they get jobs, that's awesome what you have done for the streamer, well done and hope the future is rosy for you and the streamer.
Not just the employees but anyone who relied on them. Literally dozens and dozens of people are out on hundreds of thousands of dollars because their money was taken and their rig was either never built or mostly built but they can't get them anymore with it all being under lock and key. Not to mention people who RMA'd stuff that they can't get back.
Artesian*
yeah i was kinda ALMOST on his side cause well... like my aunt has told me (when i asked for honest legal advice) "your small. nobody cares about you.". but HOLY HELL the guy was so smarmy. and the shady shit about him that came out id go as far to call him evil and stupid.
The fact that Artesian Builds just shut down operations stemming from this disaster makes it all the sweeter
He fired all the employees who are now jobless because of his antics. Not that sweet if you ask me.
@@TheEchelon There are already people (like Gamers Nexus, etc.) trying to help these former employees who were left out to dry. This might be better for them in the long run, as apparently Artesian Builds wasn't likely to last long even without this scandal.
In all seriousness, the events surrounding the firings suggest an issue with either the taxman or plain old bankruptcy. This whole cluster frack is just unfortunate/brilliant timing.
@@verachia8137 they still need a job so they can live...
I kind of want DawidDoesTech to make a vid on the whole situation. Lol. I can already imagine the hilarious roast of Noah Cats.
As a small company from Canada trying to build a name, loved to see this. No one is above anyone else and everyone should be treated fairly.
That's exactly how us at North Florida Computers feel. We love everyone.
🤙 As it should be. Much love from Ont, Canada.
Assuming that's your company's name, misspelling it doesn't exactly reflect competence so you might wanna look up "greengrocer's apostrophe" and set it straight ... cheers 👍
@@misatzu There are nicer ways to correct a person's grammar. Don't be a bully.✌️
@@antoniodittman5820 There's a smarter way to distinguish between valuable advice and a useless "correction". Don't be hater. 🤘
I remember Jay asking about what sort of content we wanted a while back. This sort of stuff is amazing - I don't mean just giving away free PCs to people (that would be ridiculous!), I mean such a humble and positive view of the community as a while as well as such a phenomenally well thought out response to what has been an awful situation for someone. Massively appreciate the positivity and keep spreading the love!
You gained a lot of respect with that incredibly kind act. Best of wishes to Kia. I'm sure this changed a negative situation into a positive.
I was glad to see this upload and her getting the pc she deserved. Even if it was from someone other than the group that owed her one. But I was also sad to see that she hasn’t posted a video since the unboxing video of the pc. Wonder why she stopped??
@@annadarby7224 She seems to be primarily a Twitch streamer, took a quick look at her channel and it says she was last live yesterday.
For a moment I was wondering how this had anything to do with cars then realized it is her name.
"Be polite, be kind" Words to live by Jay!!! If everyone just did these two simple things. You've done a very kind thing here. Good on ya brother
And don't forget to rewind
Kiappia: "I win a free PC?"
ArtesianBuilds: "Yes, but actually no."
JayzTwoCents: "Yes, I'll make it for you!"
Jay: fine, i will do it myself
This dude promotes a crap SI however...
Thats called a simp.
Jay you have my respect, as they say, "Treat people the way you would like to be treated."
Jay is someone who does put his words into action and mad respect for that
My ex said that a lot. Sadly, she was a masochist.
@@qwkimball Lol it’s a good thing to do proper exegesis 😂
@@brando3342 Every time I do an exegesis, they make me clean it up.
That’s sometimes not true. Sometimes the unfortunate reality is that sometimes you have to treat people the way THEY want to be treated.
Not only does this shed a lot of light in how amazing of a person you are, but also EVGA and the other brands that didnt even hesitate to give some next level ballin parts. Just makes me love people like you and brands like EVGA even more!
This is why I follow Jay and have for 6-7 years. A pretentious moron mistreats someone, so Jay uses his experience and connections to make it right! Jay your a role model for all those who do find success. Keep it up.
yeah he is a great dude
Thank you and EVGA for stepping up to fix this awful situation. This is what the tech community is about, helping the underdog. She'll put this rig to good use.
EVGA has won me over with customer service even before this. They deserve a big W
@@fargogh8122 I've nothing but good things to say about both EVGA and Asus over the years
EVGA is the GOAT when it comes to their customer service. Over a year ago, I bought their 3090 off Amazon and it exploded day 1 (honestly have no idea why. I was playing league when it happened.), so I went through their RMA process and it was so easy and the rep was super friendly and knowledgeable. They give you the option of putting a deposit on the replacement, so they send you the new one at the same time you send in the broken one. Got my replacement in two days and it's been going strong ever since.
@@Baka_Mop that's the kind of experience that makes you loyal to the end
@@makatron I've had no issues with EVGA, for the most part. As for Asus, after having to RMA a motherboard and then RMA the replacements they sent me two times before finally getting a semi working one, with the process taking TWO months, my trust in Asus took a bit of a hit overall. I'm currently having to wait for a bios update to see if I can finally get my 4th stick of RAM to work in the new motherboard they sent me.
This is a classy move. I absolutely love to see it. Thanks for being awesome to the community, all of it.
Couldn't agree more!! Good on you Jay. I'm actually more impressed that you're fully admonishing the company. Anyone, everywhere can make a mistake or a series of them, but when they realise that mistake it is all in how they handle it that is most important. Good service doesn't mean pandering to every customer, it means putting right what is wrong when it is out of the customers hands and is something you did.
WTH! Nick what are you doing here?!?!?!?!? You into pc building now too!
Didn't expect to see you here, Nick. You and Jay are both gems!
lol this chick got multiple PC's sent to her. Jay made her one and a couple other companies sent her free gaming PC's after they heard what happen. that's so dope the community hooked her up.
Shame about the others that were also knocked back!
Can we try and get others to help out the other streamers that were overlooked?
I had listed them, unfortunately the comments have been deleted.
" i love this case because you can fit a whole lot of components without worrying about if they fit"
- clip of jay griding away some metal
EVGA is really a great company. I lost access to my email for a month and during that month I got an email about being able to purchase a 3090. I had been in the queue for a year. I emailed them explaining my situation and I gave proof I was temporarily locked out of it and they let me buy one! They really do give people the best even in really challenging times.
Dude i'll hold your word man. My first build just finish and needed an aio which i already bought and waiting for shipping. The aio was EVGA i heard they make a great quality product. Had my hope so high now 😂.
Still rockin my 1080ti ftw3 sli to this day, evga builds high quality parts that last.
@@zanebaird1579 I want to build a 2008-2010 era PC with multiple GPUs. It was the the dream PC I had back then and could never afford. I missed out on a majority of the multi-gpu setups. I did have a couple of GTX 970s in sli for a while. I got in in the tail end of it.
And that Jay, is why you’re as big as you are. Such a whole hearted guy, even in the darkest of times. Huge props to you and any and all vendors who reached out, still some really good folks in the world.
Come for the hardware reviews, stay for the integrity.
Massive respect to Jay, his crew, and all the others who help fight the good fight.
Stuff like this is why I will always be a huge fan of this channel.
the fact that this incident just got kiapia that much bigger opens her up to bigger and better ambassador opportunities is that much sweeter
You guys did a good thing. I was gobsmacked after seeing how they treated her _LIVE_ on stream. So holier than thou, condescending, cringy, and just ugh. I had hoped this all gets spun into something positive for her. Best of luck Kiapia. Hold steady and stay the course.
For sure. That really pushed it over the edge for me like why be like that on stream? I just watch that and the only thing I can think is "What the fuck is wrong with you?"
I would say they are going to be sued.
@@zack9912000 I doubt there is much you can sue them for, the person didn't lose any money so there is probably not many ways to do it, but Im not a lawyer
@@Starfire-nv3nk There is definitely a case to be had, whether it would be worth the time and effort - especially since their name is pretty much dirt right now anyway - is questionable though.
I love how after this event, Kiapiaa was getting +1,000 concurrent viewers, which was wayyyy more than Artesian Builds could ever get
The best moments of the online community.
Probably because she got positive promotion from a ton of different people who have millions of subscribers ^^
I've seen a few big people partner with Artesian builds in the past, and they now all made videos distancing themselves from them, because they didn't want people watching their older content and think that they support people who actually just commit lottery fraud (or equivalent) live on camera.
So, due to larger streamers covering their ass, she got a ton of well-deserved positive attention.
@@Nerobyrne she already had more followers at the time..
@@BerrysTC that is actually entirely irrelevant to the discussion.
As usual, sexists just can't stay on topic and have to wedge their dumb opinions in everywhere.
@@BerrysTC Kinda pathetic that this is 100% of your personality since it's all you can talk about.
Don't you feel bad being so pathetic?
What an AWESOME move Jay!
Hey Insym, proficiat met je succes man, helemaal verdiend. :)
I-Insym?
It's nice to read about the bad guys being taken down, turning this into such a feel-good story. Congratulations Kiapia. Great work by everyone and outstanding help by JayzTwoCents for always caring about the little guy, and knowing one's roots and from whence they came.
So glad you linked to Kiapiaa's Twitch channel!! Two other streamers, strwbrrymoogle and protezee, were also swindled out of their prizes by the folks at AB yesterday, so everybody make sure to check them out and give them your support as well!
Makes me feel good to know that people like Jay and Steve are out there advocating for us. These are genuine people who care, and I am glad to be (if only a very, very small part) of their world. Thanks Jay.
Irk
I personally have nothing good to say about people who do things like that at all, but thankfully theres a silver lining here or gold af with JayzOverkillCents over here lol. Good job man!
Hey you are that dude who makes apex vids, it's always cool seeing other creators I don't usually see in comments of vids
Amazing how companies continue to massively fumble such easy wins. Talk about snatching defeat out of the jaws of victory. This all could have been a feel good story, instead they douched the fuck out and will pay the price.
@@weidoneverdies9684 shhhh
So happy for her, you are incredible, Ive struggled trying to make TH-cam content for over a year and it's can be very discouraging and with limited hardware I can't show off the amazing graphics and perfect frames, it really makes you feel like you can't do much at all, it's really nice to see you do this
Thank you to you Jay for bringing this up and to EVGA for their generosity.
Good on you and props to EVGA for coming through. Personally, I have no desire to watch streamers, but I wish her the best on her stream.
Because of this i'm planning to get a EVGA than a Zotac gpu both are more or less in the same price but videos like this sways audience and i'm one of them
@@milanfan81 Zotac are pretty good, but I did have a Zotac that died, shortly after purchase. I've never had an issue like that with EVGA. Small sample size, long time ago, etc, but enough for me not to want to chance them again. That was an expensive card too, so I was not at all happy about it.
@@johnpmchappell That's rough but Zotac did replace it? Was there an investigation to why it died?
@@milanfan81 I didn't buy directly from Zotac, as I recall. In the end, I was able to return through the online retailer for a full refund. Not sure if they ever investigated, I'd assume so, since it was an RMA type deal, and it was not a cheap piece of hardware, but I never found anything out. Bought the same card, from a different manufacturer, as I recall. It's been a while ... it was nVidia's top of the line, at the time though. Pretty it sure was the GTX 295, as that rings a bell and it was the right kind of time.
Getting royally screwed over by a company is the best thing you can hope for in the Twitch/YT sphere. Also kudos to Kiapiaa for rejecting the "we are kinda sorry" PC from Artesian Builds.
How is that the "best thing you can hope for", exactly?
@@alvinlepik5265 cuz without a doubt, the entire twitch community will be in your side giving you more than what you initially would’ve got
@@bigjuicyvert8751 so, you're speaking after the fact as if anyone should seek their opportunity to get screwed over . Does not compute, brother ..does not compute.
tell that to all the people that get screwed behind closed doors or in contract negotiations that you never hear about. The situations that do get attention may help the screwee, but you have no idea how many small creators there are getting fucked over all the time that you don't hear about. Not to mention fans that accumulate from drama usually don't stick around for all that long unless more drama ensues.
only if it goes viral and puts you in connection with a good community
That system is sick. I know she will love it. Good on you Jay for coming to the rescue and helping support her
Absolutely there's such a thing as bad advertising, after hearing this I don't want anything to do with them. Good job!!🇺🇸🤨
it used to be the mantra that there's no such thing as bad advertising, but the internet sure has changed that, hasn't it. i hope Artesian Builds gets themselves a new law team and rewards teams because they're severely lacking
I literally did not know Artesian builds existed before all this. Fuck them with a rusty spork
If you want to know more about it I recommend checking out kristoferyee’s video on this
sucks for the employees but man... that guy needs to get punched in the mouth. Gets to get bought out too and still be an absolutely insufferable, resentful, crap person.
@@mr.behaving I'm pretty sure the cliche is no such thing as bad publicity. There definitely has always been such a thing as bad advertising.
Faith in humanity restored. Seriously, whilst it’s depressing the things people will say or do to others, it also brings out the best of others. I’m happy to be apart of your community Jay. Never change ❤️
Seeing this whole thing unfold was so sad. My company North Florida Computers reached out to her because of this. To think there are companies who do this is very sad. We love all out our creators, community, customers, etc. Without each and every one of them our company wouldn't be possible. This is by far not the way to treat anyone and I personally feel so bad for Kiapiaa even though so many good things have come of it, I know how it feels to be treated that way and it sucks. That being said our company as a whole completely supports Kiapiaa
Lmao this plug
@@maneskinned promise I'm not trying to make it a plug. Just more of a testimony.
@@Lucidilluminate if it was a plug, you could've written a handful of words. You mentioned your company name once and the rest of the comment was supportive towards kiapia and the community. Unfortunately, a lot of us are conditioned to always think the worst. Seems to me that you're good people, back up words with actions... and trust me, you'll be rewarded 👍
@@jordinja thank you. This comments means a lot to me and us here!
I took your comment same as EVGA a company wanting to help. props to all.. I just noticed you are a tad far from me as I am West side of the panhandle but will keep you on my radar.
Jay you are actually an amazing person. I've been following you for quite a while at this point and you've helped me so much! You are a class act and I couldn't be more proud to be apart of your community.
This is why I like Jay, he's such a humble guy it's crazy how much he cares about all streamers or content creators, he's my favourite toutuber hands down.
true also you can see his anger at them on his face
@alifer canimper I was thinking the same thing lmao
As a small streamer from the UK, saving for my first pc build since the original rainbow six game, I'm grateful to see people standing up for Kiapia, I currently enter every free pc draw I believe I'm eligible for, and what happened with her would devastate me, on the plus side though, it's allowed me to find yourself and your videos which will help me get back knowledge of the sort of things I will need in a build. Thank you for remembering we start at 0.
Seeing companies treat their own ambassadors like that, I was also an ambassador there, fills me with discourage and worry of what else can we meet along the way, you know?
But im really glad to see she getting the treatment! Making it as a Twitch streamer today is incredibly hard if you want to be successful, and having a company shit on your name in public like that would've made me so angry! Kiapia, im glad you're getting some traction with this even though you never deserved to be treated like that in the first place!
Glad to have a feel good story. Thank you. Jay and evga needed some positivity today.
Even more reason to support you and your sponsors.
You’ve been using your platform to do right by the community for a long time.
Sincerest thanks 🙏🏼 for all that you do and the lives you change for the better!
Jay, thank you.
You've worked with companies like Intel, Asus, and EVGA time and time again to give to the community.
You've helped your community with the PC gaming/ streaming center. You've helped individuals that couldn't afford upgrades and people that volunteer to help the community.
Now you're helping streamers getting shafted by the companies supposedly sponsoring them.
You're a total class act, thanks for being a part of the PC community.
This is why I follow Jay, he's just one of the guys and helps out and calls out wrong-doing when he sees it! Kudos Jay!
100% one of the best on TH-cam for sure. I’ll always be a sub of Jay.
Don't forget the part where he profits from it.
I have to say this is one of the coolest things I've seen in a long time as somebody that's trying to get into streaming as well this is such a conference booster I really appreciate how the community comes together and I appreciate what you did for her
I was just as happy seeing this as I would have been getting this PC myself.
You are so kind!
as a very small streamer myself if this happened to me what they did to kia, id feel so incredibly shit and be hesitant to partner with another company again. so proud of all the support shes getting and all the hate artesian builds is getting F artesian builds to the moon
So if she ends up getting a bunch of good PCs, she can just keep one or two (for a two PC setup) and then give away the rest throughout the next weeks and everybody wins while we get to spread a good message: "Don't be a dick!"
Edit: Checked her latest stream and within the first few minutes she said she would be giving a setup to her brother and give extras away.
@@spankbuda3084 and how would you know that? It's none of your business on what she does to her computers.
@@spankbuda3084 man, times are hard I'd sell a setup or two haha
Highly unlikely😒
I had no idea these scumbags were out there. AND I just bought a system. Glad I didn't run into them. Anyway, well done riding to the rescue. GOOD JOB! You've just guaranteed yourself a permanent place on my TH-cam subscription list.
Sounds like that Artesian Builds is an unscrupulous company that'll hopefully be investigated probably because of a pretentious & unscrupulous leader. Excellent by you, EVGA, & others in turning most of this into lemonade.
2:40 Turns out there is something wrong with that: you're not allowed to run a chance-based giveaway that demands something of value from the participants, because that makes it a lottery rather than a giveaway. And legally speaking, producing advertisement value for the company running the giveaway does count for this. In fact, even demanding the ambassadors to have that referral banner on their Twitch about page might actually qualify as a requirement to do something of value to Artesian Builds. Even things like requiring participants to fill out surveys can be verboten if the resulting survey data has business value to the company. In the US, only State governments are allowed to run lotteries. And even outside the US, there's at minimum a lot of red tape involved in legally running a lottery. Not to mention private lotteries aren't just illegal to run: they're illegal to participate in. Getting caught up in this mess might actually cause harm to Ambassadors who just participated in it, if the US government decides to be a dick about this. So this stuff going high-profile might actually change the way these things are run in the tech community going forward.
You can make it a giveaway where you just need to register for free, no additional requirements, and that's fine.
You can make it a contest where the best Ambassador is awarded the rig, removing the element of a random draw, and it's also fine.
But what Artesian Builds did was 100% a lottery: there was an element of chance that couldn't be removed by performing better than other participants, and participants were required to generate an ROI for Artesian Builds, which is obviously a consideration requirement. Which means all three elements of a lottery (prize, chance and consideration) were met.
The thing is, they only changed it to those requirements after they picked a winner.
Which is arguably worse because that makes it illegal no matter how you slice it.
ok so what im getting from what you said is that I don't understand anything and you are a very smart person 😅. Man i really need to get more educated with things like these lol
@@windwalker111089 don't feel bad I'm educated quite well but I also have no clue how the law works. Ur plenty smart but you can't know everything
anybody else thinking "too much text, cant read"
KIA gotta be a little overwhelmed, her last stream blew up, 150 followers to 7K, community support was epic. GG
I've followed your channel for almost nine years. This proves your character and integrity well beyond any doubt. Gives hope to others there's still genuine human beings on this troubled planet. THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO!!!
Glad to see the community being positive! Always loved EVGA and how they look out for the customer base!
That was really cool Jay. Totally made my day. Kudos to EVGA and everyone else who offered to help. Shame on Artesian. The bad publicity this will cost them will be way higher than the cost of the PC. Enjoy your fab rig Kiapia.
Jay, I've been subbed to you for years. Like before skunk works. You have never changed and i hope you never do man. I was hoping to get a pc building channel like yours but life happened and with kids and school that dream dwindled into non existence but i still love computers with a passion and your channel. This was amazing to watch. Thank you for not forgetting your roots and keeping the positive vibes throughout everything!!! Much love to you, yours, and all the small people grinding away!
My favorite video will always be the massive gaming monitor where his face gets illuminated by explosions from the screen. I have a gif of it as a regular reaction. I love how excited he gets and how kind he is.
Shout out to Jay for being an amazing human being and "big brother" to his fellow creater. I love how artesian builds has gone out of business since this video. I hope she is doing well and is able to use this to create something great with her channel. Good luck!!
This is what makes JayzTwoCents awesome! He truly cares about the gaming community and wants to help out in any way he can. Thank you for using the influence you have to do what is right.
I felt something was wrong with artesian after watching for a while and unfollowed them, now im really glad i did it.
Anyway, we are blessed to have someone like you in the PC gaming / enthusiast community, i wish you the best and also congrats to kiapia as well and i hope she enjoys her new pc
I thought was strange whn buddhas pc was built but I never watched twitch till last yr
And the good thing is: This will probably work on increasing her viewer base. Thanks Jay, you and your team are awesome!!
Btw, we are missing Nick and Phil on screen!
Definitely! She was below 2k followers when it happened- now she's at almost 18k followers!
Less than 2k when Artesian Builds pulled her name. Over 7k and climbing. On Twitch alone.
This is the first video i have seen of yours and i have to day as an Army Infantry Combat veteran this is amazing to see todays world needs more people like you.
This is also the first video I watched from JayzTwoCents.
Love how you tackled this and for anyone who stepped in to help, specially EVGA. Whenever my next build is gonna happen it's gonna be all EVGA or as much as it can be. Thank you Jay for your continued help and support to your community. It's amazing to know there's still people out there who can and are willing to help others when shit like this happens.
So True EVGA have my respect as well as my future business as do Crucial, Corsair and all the others who stood up for making things right
It pisses me off so much, no one deserves to be treated like that, man! And you doing this, only makes me feel happy to be your viewer, Jay. May you and Kia haves more and more ever...
I can't really wrap my head around on why Artesian Builders decided to do something like this. Talk about being egotistical.
@@Eins3467 sometimes the ego gets to big enough to erase any kindness within the heart. Maybe they forgot what is to be a good human being. So sad...
Remember your roots, by all means, but even more basically then that, both shops like this and individuals at large need to remember simple human decency. Being insulated by the internet as a buffer is no reason for Artesian or anyone else to engage in such shameful conduct. Must we all be saints? No, of course not. But we should all remember to be human, and humane. I almost forgot to say congrats on the fantastic build and your own generosity in this mess. Thanks for being an example of how it should be done.
It's been a little over a week and I'm still coming back to this just for a quick feel-good reminder of how awesome the PC hardware community is.
Thanks again Jay for being an awesome person first, and an awesome content creator second.
I've done business with Artesian - overpriced, shipping materials and packaging quality is disastrously poor, and they don't follow customer guidance or requests well at all. Needless to say, I no longer buy from them.
It's likely that no one will do business with them ever again. Artesian Builds companies are federally suspended for tax evasion as of now. That means, if you want to sue them, they are forbidden by law to defend themselves in court. You can walk over them. It also means they have no rights to their company name. If you want, you can start a business or IP and call it Artesian Builds. They can't do anything about it. I suggest all the streamers hurt by this go after them now. No delay.
@@mckrackin5324 Only a madman with nothing to lose would probably be dumb enough to start a business named Artesian Builds (at least as a PC builder) seeing how disastrous this fiasco is.
@@lordrald09 You don't have to do business. You can just create an LLC and claim the name. When they get out of court, they can buy it back from you if they want it but I doubt they will.
@@mckrackin5324 Forbidden to defend themselves in court? That doesn't sound accurate.
@@jonathonrobinson6081 It's literally the law. I tried to link the law but links are forbidden here so I'll quote the most relevant paragraph.
"What makes the suspension of a corporation
drastically different from bankruptcy and
dissolution is this: a bankrupt or dissolved
corporation can legally continue to defend
itself and prosecute claims, while a suspended corporation cannot".
Google "The Problem of Suspended Corporations in
the Present Economic Downturn" and open the PDF.
All too often us smaller content creators get the shaft like this and it's good to see that there's still good in the world now and then. If I could do something like this myself, I would do so In a heartbeat. Thank you for stepping up and doing so for all of us that wish we could.
This doesn’t happen often bruh 💀 most small streamers get support from other people, there’s a few bad apples here and there but no
@@PyroInferno110 I guess I've just seen a lot of unlucky few and had some bad luck myself the past couple years then. It's good to hear it's not widespread.
@@BearWaifuAudios yea don’t worry, you’ll get there trust me. Some of us gotta earn the shits
@@BearWaifuAudios especially with where you are now
This is really awesome. As a small streamer myself, I appreciate that there are people who are out there looking out for us.
Rihanna getting slapped around would make for some great content.
Glad you jumped in Jay - sadly I see lots of this happening. The company see they weren’t going to get the kick back via a (thank you review) to her followers. You can clearly see it wasn’t going to get the exposure they thought they had (paid for) via a computer. Thus they didn’t think they were going to get their money out of her, which can be hardly called a giveaway at that point.
It’s a real shame, glad someone like you watches for this kinda stuff.
What a bunch of derps! I was actually planning to buy a PC from them to support my friend's Twitch stream ( a small streamer like kiapia) in their ambassador program. Glad I saw this video! That's $5K they won't be gettin' !!!
Yeah. It sucks that their CEO had to be a dock. Like, if they wanted clicks to sales, this dick pretty much shot the ambassador program in the foot because what he did ADVERSELY affects the entire idea of the ambassador program.
Imagine getting screwed over by some random Pc company and then Instead getting a PC built by the god Jay himself I'm sure its gonna be more reliable as well. Good job jay :)
In fairness, this wasn't some "random pc company". They provided PCs and had the backing of many large streamers and frequently did PC give aways. Shows how out of touch the CEO is with what was their community.
@@realNoMeeIts more in the fact that they were a random person who works for a company while Jay is more or else his whole brand and this doesnt change the fact that id have Jay build me a PC before I let a radom company do it thats know for the PCs crashing
@@caseys1606 What do you mean a random person who works for a company? If you mean the people who built the giveaway pcs, they streamed all their builds, were known and liked in the community and did the giveaways to actually help people who couldn't afford better equipment. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to tell you your preference of who builds your pc is wrong, just trying to highlight that a dumbass CEO ruined a lot of good things for some good people.
@@caseys1606 Dawg it's literally the fuckin CEO, do you know anything about this situation lmao
@@DsgSleazy Yah I heard he was the was pretty high up didn't realize it was the CEO though
I absolutely love the technology community, we're always here to help each other out and it's amazing how much support we've gotten for Kia to grow.
This is one of these moments, when i´m proud to be part of this community. Jay, you´re doeing the right thing. Supported 100%. Keep on doeing this 👍
Man... stories like this always get right to the core. I'm talking about "villains" and heroes in real life. I know you're not seeking recognition for this. Absolute respect, you're such a great dude.
Thank you for what you did
been watching for a few years now and love how much of a legend he is. normally there is not a reason to celebrate a company basically bottoming out. In this case where a company tells someone they cant have their giveaway because they aren't "big" enough for their taste, would be like telling someone they cant have the mega millions they won because they are to poor, its ridiculous. but i will be checking out her stream and showing love and support. keep this community strong friends.
I love how the pc building TH-cam community is really coming together on this. This is so freaking great!
Huge! Respect to Jay and EVGA for stepping up, no one should have to go through that and I'm glad in the PC world there are heroes like you guys!
I've been watching JayzTwoCents for 2 1/2 years now, and this only confirms the impeccable character this channel represents. Not being sappy, just saying it like it is. Good job guys!
Hey Jay! I started watching you when I first got into building my own PCs. It does me proud to see you stand behind people with positive efforts like this!
Watching it all unfold on Kia's channel was really heartwarming to see because people being kind like this is what the Twitch community should be like.
Honestly love the FU energy that your giving to the company, as well as the many others who jumped on board.
I genuinely love how much Jay's pulled through for this young lass, hope the build does so much good for her ❤️
Mad respect - plus actually showing a business how to actually build your brand - may you get all the good feels and vibes
For all the crazy stuff happening in this world, taking a wrong, and just going about fixing it seems like a damn good idea. Nice work JayZ and team.
@Kiapia, enjoy the rig!
“Beats anything they could slap together” love how you were just big dogging them the whole time 😭
Two things…First: Jay, this is awesome…great thing to do. Kiapia, that was a BS thing that happened to you, and it’s great that you have people like Jay and his team, along with EVGA (which I’m sure aren’t the only ones:)), doing what they can to try and make it as right as possible…Second: Phil, your montages are the BEST in the TH-cam game to me. Keep up the great work guys!
Dude, that build looks cleeeean. Good on you guys for spreading so much positivity and support for an otherwise bad situation.
I love this community! So awesome how you all stand up for each other, and all the kindness! Keep up all the great things! ❤️💪🏽
I’m a small streamer as well. You did a kind thing. Thanks for helping this girl!
Needed two custom system builds and found Artisan, checked for review and found this video needless to say we won't be using their services. Good looking out for the little guy Jay
I would die for a system like this.
Fair play dude! To help someone in this way shows your true colours.
Damn he really treated her as if she was his own you love to see stuff like this in the community ❤️
I never even knew this was a thing. I just now found out about it from TechLinked