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  • @robwastman4993
    @robwastman4993 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    I’ve been married for 43 years and watch these videos because they help me understand my wife’s thinking.

  • @virgkin8900
    @virgkin8900 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +52

    Hoe math is ahead of his time. Takes notes guys.

    • @FromTheWombTotheGrave
      @FromTheWombTotheGrave 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Nah

    • @LamelKendrick
      @LamelKendrick 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      he's a high ranking noticer, probably not even a genius technically

  • @Leonhart_93
    @Leonhart_93 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +72

    This is absolutely amazing, @hoe_math is so smart and analytical about anything, to the point where he can analyze even illogical feelings.

    • @Raphael0654
      @Raphael0654 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      He's a treasure.

    • @eartherinfire
      @eartherinfire 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      The logic, insights, and delivery is great, I love it, but the demographic of women discussed or analyzed from clips seem to be from the same type that were raised on Disney and fairy tales. Or maybe I just feel outside of the grid made for women, as a 51 year old, attractive to some in the right light artist who hopes to find a dynamic companion. I think the framework analyzed are about a younger group, mostly.

    • @balazsfoldes4700
      @balazsfoldes4700 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      You can tell he's very mature and high level in thinking, because he can extract the essence of a rambly, poorly worded question.
      That's pretty impressive.

    • @aretwodeetoo1181
      @aretwodeetoo1181 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@eartherinfire Not sure any of those attributes (age, occupation) necessarily excludes someone (exhibit 1: ticktock..). But non-participation on the social media / online dating game might, better upbringing with a present father may also, at least as a matter of degree. That said, it's more likely you're having trouble observing in yourself the same forces that are obvious in others when taken to the extreme ("princess treatment", "we're all 10s", etc). And if that's not the case, great, you're a balanced human being and your relationships probably reflect that. You can stay if you want to participate in the discussion regarding the social consequences of the situation and what we can or should do about it. Or you can move on with your life. Either way, commenting "it's great but I don't feel represented" doesn't really add anything to anyone.

  • @coinspeednews4703
    @coinspeednews4703 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +68

    hoe_math, your science should be taught in high school. Ngl, it absolutely destroyed my fantasies about "love" being magic, but this is elite knowledge. Max respect!

    • @metalmanny666
      @metalmanny666 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Timestamp when he says love is magic

    • @KnowThyself619
      @KnowThyself619 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      ​@@metalmanny666you have misunderstood his comment. He's not saying that hoe_math said "love is magic", rather he's saying that hoe_math has helped him to free himself from seeing love as something magical because if we look at what is lurking beneath love, there are many scientific/psychological/societal reasons as to why we fall in love with the opposite sex.

    • @staygolden77
      @staygolden77 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ignorance is bliss....for the npc's and soulless.

    • @mantaramg60
      @mantaramg60 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      In this day and age institutions would never teach this material too many wokies would freak and cancel you. Platforms like this is were its at those with the intellect will find it.
      "Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces."

  • @wisdomandy9361
    @wisdomandy9361 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +136

    Imagine being an average women thinking Ryan Gossling is average. I'm telling yall, alpha widows is a growing problem that is getting worse quickly.

    • @Leonhart_93
      @Leonhart_93 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      We already know that, it's one of the things that shows itself when you filter out high body counts.

    • @JT.962
      @JT.962 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Charismatic, tall, rich and above average looking is not enough for 3/10 whales in 2024

    • @mrdouche9172
      @mrdouche9172 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Depends on how you see it. He is tall, fit, very rich and famous, and pretty likeable from what i've seen, but there is one area he is within average range. Facial attractiveness. Compare him to someone like Cavill and he pales in comparison.

    • @JT.962
      @JT.962 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @@mrdouche9172 yes let's compare him to one of the best looking people in Hollywood instead of the average guy. Makes sense

    • @wisdomandy9361
      @wisdomandy9361 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@mrdouche9172 This is ridiculous. Say what you wrote in your head a few times and realize what exactly you're saying.....

  • @Chrischi_Z_GermanGUI
    @Chrischi_Z_GermanGUI 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    Children typically side with the mom when they are small. You just need to be a good dad and when they are older, they realize your actual worth. I know it is bad to wait so long, but that is how it will go.

    • @thomasbehrend7562
      @thomasbehrend7562 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Yeah, I sided with mom as a kid. Only after figuring stuff out then I reasoned why dad acted the way he did

    • @KingKrapper
      @KingKrapper 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Dad's are often the bulwark of discipline. A lot of times, Dad goes to work to earn the paycheck, and mom stays with the kids and takes them around. When the kid acts up, the mom usually says something along the lines of 'wait until your dad gets home.'
      Dad comes home, and instead of being playful or fun with the kids, he is instead forced to maintain the disciplinary angle with his children. So the kid sees a dad who isn't involved directly in his needs being met, and when the dad is around, he's constantly correcting the kids behavior.
      It's no wonder kids side with the mom. Things are changing now, but is it any wonder that there are so many men and women out there that think that fathers don't do anything? They were taught by their mothers to think it.

    • @TheRealHerbaSchmurba
      @TheRealHerbaSchmurba 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Unfortunately my mom was so controlling as a kid that I tend to always side with my dad.

  • @ryanrodriguez7664
    @ryanrodriguez7664 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    "Which is ofcourse, terrible f***ing advice"
    "You were thought by your church, mom, disney."
    😂I'm starting to like this guy.

  • @pitpride1220
    @pitpride1220 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    I carry a firearm, am licensed, face the door in restaraunts, walk on the street side on dates, sleep closest to the door and will use my arm or body to shield a woman from a perceived threat or odd circumstance. Those things have helped me greatly. Even women that don't like firearms. It comes off as confident, because I am. But it's less work that I have to do. Most assume that I have the dark area covered just from doing those things. I have hobbies but haven't really needed them much for meeting women. My confidence came from getting good at one thing. Then just building from there. It literally started with learning how to fix a toilet, changing a tire, car battery and on from there. Easy stuff. It gave me confidence because I didn't need to call another man to get me out of a bind. That translated to other things in life. I became the guy that gets called. It doesn't have to be big. But little wins reinforce the mindset to get bigger wins. That comes across, she doesn't need to know where your confidence comes from.

  • @KnowThyself619
    @KnowThyself619 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    Hoe math is great but let's not fail to appreciate how knowledgeable Michael is too.

  • @staygolden77
    @staygolden77 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    2 excellent truth tellers/content creators.....cheers to you 2.

  • @ericraber1214
    @ericraber1214 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Realize that you are responsible for yourself. Awesome!

  • @anonymissed3611
    @anonymissed3611 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Apparently an endless supply of black T-shirts helps.

    • @Seirra72
      @Seirra72 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Black fitting t-shirts are actually the move if you have a dark look (dark hair, but not dark skin)

  • @StephenGriffith-j1d
    @StephenGriffith-j1d 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Wow wonderful! Thanks for sharing. A pleasure to learn from both of these gentlemen and their audience.

  • @j4cksincl4ir
    @j4cksincl4ir 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    Living and working alone at home during the lockdowns, I had the revelation moment about what I was paying tax for when the neighbouring unmarried mothers were partying, drinking and sunbathing. I used to see the men from Bumble come and go into one of these women's apartments until she settled with a lesbian. Like many men, I have reconsidering my professional life and what the whole point of it is so I reduced my hours to get myself into the lower taxation band.

    • @privatethoughts3798
      @privatethoughts3798 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank for this ! I will think as well about that !

    • @JohnDoe-yk3ji
      @JohnDoe-yk3ji 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah I think that's exactly what he described, a marginal decrease in hours, because each hour after X is taxed at the higher rate. I'm in Australia, and before I had a missus, I wouldn't earn more than 55k a year in taxable income because I'd rather have those hours to myself.

  • @mansamusa3708
    @mansamusa3708 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Also Teaching men’s Fashion is a great channel in terms of style.

  • @ohjay7612
    @ohjay7612 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Hoe math is goated. I love how he connects all this to the end game. When so many men arent motivated things are going to change drastically and people are blind to that.

  • @somebloke5565
    @somebloke5565 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    This Q&A would up the pace if all Qs were typed and read by MS or HM. It would filter the inarticulate.

    • @MylesKillis
      @MylesKillis 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      They specified they don’t want to do that

    • @doubtshadow1
      @doubtshadow1 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, but they are incorrect 😅​@@MylesKillis

    • @urszulapietka9636
      @urszulapietka9636 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It would filter out personalities, who asks the question influences the way you answer (or at least should work like that for any sensitive human)

  • @themagiccookie2614
    @themagiccookie2614 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    These are a joy to watch!

  • @aquious953
    @aquious953 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Pure gold, guys! If only I had seen this video 45yrs ago.

  • @quadavis4
    @quadavis4 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I’ve been being too nice to women. After I’ve messed around with them 2 or 3 times I want to kinda take care of them. In my situation every time I do something nice for women before they deserve it their true colors start showing.
    Keep them on their toes bros that’s the only way you’ll gain true respect from the women you’re involved with.

  • @thedappermagician6905
    @thedappermagician6905 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Hm. Ill take a crack at this for @hoemath.
    Level 10 might be something like a dispassionate empathy for all beings. The ability to virtualize the perspectives of others or even variations of yourself and move through those concepts like everyday thought.
    The Singularity of Holistic Multiplicity

    • @saintsword23
      @saintsword23 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      This isn't the case. Level 10 is simply awareness of the immediate, present moment without believing any thought that appears. It's where the reflex of the mind to bend back on itself (which is what the self is) stops. The senses and thoughts continue, but no one is there to get entangled in them or experience them. Or, at least, what's beyond level 9, at least somewhere, is simply awareness of the immediate, present moment without believing any thought that appears. Level 9 is the highest development of the self, so level 10 must be beyond the self. And no, "beyond the self" doesn't mean "empathy for the other," it's the end of the entire self/other paradigm at all.
      Your description is closer to someone between level six and seven. Six is where the emphasis on empathy occurs, seven is where perspectives are integrated with discernment and dispassion.

    • @thedappermagician6905
      @thedappermagician6905 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@saintsword23 this depends. We can abstract "backwards" and "forwards". But there are experiences of universal connection As an Agent. The end step isn't always a defacto Samadhi-type experience.
      What you're describing is end of cycle experiences which cannot support civilization. Since the AQAL model compares societies and the levels one Can maintain, I see the experience of what youre talking about as a parallel lane but not Level 10 per se.
      The literature describing what youve described is well known and should be in this model. But its not...because the model isnt concerning itself with that.
      And you can reach those no-self experiences from any stage.

    • @thedappermagician6905
      @thedappermagician6905 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@saintsword23 Beyond the self does not need to be abandoning of the "self" structure. It can also be talking about where this model comes from: Transpersonality.
      Across the self or selves.
      Whether within a singular agent or across many.

    • @saintsword23
      @saintsword23 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@thedappermagician6905 The end of the self is a distinctive thing and it's really clear: it's where the reflexive bending back of the mind on itself stops occurring.
      If level 9 is the highest level of the self, level 10 must be beyond the self. If the self doesn't end at level 10, then level 9 is not the highest level of the self. That's simple logic.

    • @thedappermagician6905
      @thedappermagician6905 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@saintsword23 no, its not simple logic. Youre using a presupposition that 10 is the end. Nothing says it has to be. Extinguishing of the "self" is an altogether different mode and can be done at any of the levels (in a sense). Thats why it doesnt belong on the AQAL.
      If youre using the chart as your basis then end it at the chart and dont assume that there even IS a 10.
      My tackling of the issue is because i think the 1-9 model is useful but its far fron complete. This is why i gave my ideas

  • @dandandan421
    @dandandan421 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    About whats being discussed in 1:44:00, I think its more than just coping. The fact that relationships and reproducing is in the top 3 most important things in life, means that you want it to come in good terms, and not with a divorce rate of 50+% and so on.
    I see the complaining as an unconscious means to create a social change to this dynamic, not only playing the victim.
    The fact that its top 3 in life, means that society can force you to sigh a bad deal, pay a big price, becuase you simply HAVE to get it to live well. Not cool in my opinion.

    • @youdonthavetoknow
      @youdonthavetoknow 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      it is better not to do it than to do it(reproducing or marriage) if the both man and woman are not commited for that goal

    • @lord.of_iron
      @lord.of_iron 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Let's not forget that this issue comes with a necessity for a close bond between a man and a woman. What tends to get overlooked is the fact that while some men try to self-maximize to become a good mate choice, we still live in a world where women are the gatekeepers of sex. And with that, lies the issue of their increase in dating standards. Once you've gone through some self-improvement as a man, the ball is in their court for accepting you as a long term partner. And there in lies the rub. We talk amongst ourselves as men day in and day out in order to improve our quality of life, but our messaging seems to seldom get through to the majority of women so they can have more reasonable expectations and sacrifice a few more standards in order for both parties to win in life. Complaining about this issue is something I'll usually never do, personally. But to ignore that major factor in all this seems disingenuous.

    • @everObvious
      @everObvious 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Two thoughts:
      😒 This guy called in to complain about men complaining. I’m sure he fails to see the irony.
      Shade aside (because I genuinely try to be constructive): if evolutionary psychology has merit, then men are innately driven to solve problems. Much of what gets deemed “complaining,” I see as men working to articulate the problem.

    • @514BMXJay
      @514BMXJay 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Society can push, you gotta push back, slow down, and do things how you feel are right.
      In the end society doesn't care about you, they're usually not there to tell you you did good or F-ed up, certainly not there to help you pay the price when crap happens.

    • @WolfyPlays
      @WolfyPlays หลายเดือนก่อน

      i think that guy was trying to throw shade at hoemath and michael who sometimes criticize women , his arguments were shallow though coz everyone in the zoom call was asking questions about improving themselves and he comes and complains about men blaming women, he also says its so easy to get 10s but its obviously not true for him coz he is trying to play the white knight technique to get some plus points for the women he knows who most likely hate these channels where men talk the truth about women and men.

  • @GokuSilver337
    @GokuSilver337 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    This will have 100k views by Sunday.

    • @welshhibby
      @welshhibby 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Didn’t happen

  • @bolt-dbtfg
    @bolt-dbtfg 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    1:04:00 Tell her to take her Ego out of the equation and coldly compare herself against the Other women the man she is interested in , can attract. If she is not younger, hotter, and behaves the way he likes, he is not going to consider her the best he can get, and move on.

  • @hsheinloo
    @hsheinloo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks! Really interesting topics

  • @olemanshavadoo7893
    @olemanshavadoo7893 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The movie Gattaca got into the idea of genetic and engineering developing a caste system who were the high-end job holders and who did all the manual labor of society. Sounds like a lot of what you guys are talking about in here

  • @johannesdolch
    @johannesdolch 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    @Michael: If you think that the stuff Ray Kurzweil is talking about is happening in 'a couple hundred years', you didn't pay attention to the actual timeline and also miss what is happening in AI right now. This is happening within the next 15-30 years. I didn't believe it either, but i am in AI and it's happening NOW.

    • @rayzerot
      @rayzerot หลายเดือนก่อน

      AI is still basically a high-end auto-complete. It statistically figuring out the most likely next words. And we're running out of data to train them on. None of them actually 'think', comprehend, or understand the things that they output
      It would take a radically different model from what we're using now to create an AGI

  • @Raphael0654
    @Raphael0654 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I loved this.

  • @lucamcardle729
    @lucamcardle729 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I still think learning guitar is still a nerdy thing. As a musician, the stereotype that we attract a lot of women, is very false

    • @Haddonfield63
      @Haddonfield63 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It’s about who u are. Not just because you playing a guitar dude . Stop taking your anecdotal information and using it to cope with your situation

    • @aretwodeetoo1181
      @aretwodeetoo1181 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Haddonfield63Sounds a bit like "just be yourself"..

    • @aretwodeetoo1181
      @aretwodeetoo1181 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah this is tricky. It's not enough to learn a skill. You have to perform it to an audience that includes the women you're interested in. But if you get good enough and find a way to do that it will 100% work. The evidence is overwhelming. But "good enough" is relative (defined by how you rank within the performances of that skill that she has observed), has become globalised and is usually harder if you start later in life.

    • @WolfyPlays
      @WolfyPlays หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think it works at early age like when you are a teen and you can play a guitar and sing well girls will be attracted coz there's a factor of betting your chips on him being a successful pop star and he will still remember you and marry you and all. But if you are old and work office job and play guitar that fantasy doesn't work that well, but it doesnt hurt to have skills under your pocket.

  • @Zielekdj
    @Zielekdj 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Hi guys, very interesting conversation. I will wait for the next one

  • @bolt-dbtfg
    @bolt-dbtfg 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    33:30 High body count women, treat their "Ideal Man" as a Buffet; She takes only the Best Bits from All her previous sex partners (and ignores where they were weaker), and expects One man, her "Ideal Man" to have be Better in All the Best Bits of all her previous sex partners. And obviously no one man can be better at all things. So he falls short, and she feels like shes "settling", and behaves badly towards the man as a result. This "Ideal" becomes increasesly harder to get close to the More Bodies she's had in the past.

    • @mrdouche9172
      @mrdouche9172 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Just be a famous billionaire, who is 6'4 with a killer physique(but never used roids) and a face sculpted by Hephaestus himself, the charm and charisma of Casanova, the penis of Mandigo, the sexual prowess of Johnny Sins, the brains of Einstein, the level of chivalry of the knights of old, the cunningness of a well trained assassin and the close combat prowess of an MMA fighter, while being more kind and more generous than Mother Theresa, and also somehow be free 24/7 to spend time with Her Highness Punaniya Tenouttatenberg!

    • @rayzerot
      @rayzerot หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@mrdouche9172Super easy, barely an inconvenience

  • @AKvanguard
    @AKvanguard 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    What I wonder is even though I’m in a committed relationship and feel happy. Why I feel so invested in these topics?

    • @empiar5481
      @empiar5481 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It’s good to know how other guys (and girls) are doing. We probably want society to be happier. You can also give some input on what advice these two give that are good and bad (the comment section won’t listen; anyone who needs the advice is at risk of being a doomer - hoe_math’s comment section has this problem.
      Some of this could also be useful in your relationship as well. Specifically the stuff about looks-maxing or whatnot. Could also give understanding to things in your relationship that are and aren’t working.

    • @corybell8232
      @corybell8232 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Same here man. But my ex wife was like these women are now because she had many red flags and cheated on me after being together for over 8 years (6 of those years we were married). I’ve been remarried for over 10 years to an amazing woman who treats me with the respect I deserve (I don’t care so much about the love but it is there too). Respect is number one though. If she doesn’t respect you it doesn’t matter how much she loves you she will still try to walk all over you like my ex wife did

    • @bdoubleeb3039
      @bdoubleeb3039 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Stay on your toes brother. I think the ONLY way to be in a happy relationship is to understand and apply this stuff

  • @mysterio1570
    @mysterio1570 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    There is no major mistakes in life, unless you get sued or go to jail. A lot of us would be better off not trying to hunt for chicks. We should just work on us and Chicks are just a hobby we lightly indulge in once in awhile. Its way to draining to try to hunt for a GF. Not that I am doing that. From all the models I have seen on relationships. The best situation is dating a woman to GF/BF status. Separate lives. We get together a couple of times a week. One weekend on as hanging out. The next weekend off and then on the weekend after that. Until we break up. Only age that could do that is after you are 35. No woman from 18 to 35 will want a lifestyle like that.

    • @everObvious
      @everObvious 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I take it you have no desire to be a father?
      My siblings and parents are the best relationships in my life. What you’ve described above sounds dispassionate and transactional.

    • @mysterio1570
      @mysterio1570 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@everObvious With the way I see things in my social environment. Relationships are disposable. One of my female friends ended her marriage in October of 2022 and the way she talks about the Ex, when he comes up. Sounds like they were never married and she spent 30 yrs with him.

    • @elihollingsworth6852
      @elihollingsworth6852 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I understand why men say this stuff but it's horseshit. Chasing women shouldn't be the focus of a man's life but we still want companionship from women.

  • @Ribobizert
    @Ribobizert 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video gentlemen, a lot of great insights.
    Is the gym an unfamiliar environment? Does the gym become a familiar environment just because a girl and I work out there all the time or do we have to talk.
    I’m asking because I think the gym is a great place to meet women and wanted a better perspective as to how women evaluate men in the gym.

  • @infographie
    @infographie 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent.

  • @kaytwo_
    @kaytwo_ 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I legit love hoe math lol.

  • @strikingitrich7630
    @strikingitrich7630 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Many manosphere creators do live on zoom questions: rich cooper, AMS, KEVIN SAMUELS etc

  • @666LatinoCad
    @666LatinoCad 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    2:24:32 Status is fungible

  • @karenvanderstraeten4581
    @karenvanderstraeten4581 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When pondering the preferences in human males in terms of parenthood I stumbled upon a book where it read that fatherhood in different types of mammals different greatly; meaning foxes tend to stick around a while after the baby foxes are born versus another male mammal might not even stick around to aid the nesting.... It's indeed silly though to compare humans to any one type of mammal or animal because our cognitive function has been shown to override common sense/natural living.... That said, what makes us humans so special is our free will, so if a man wants to be a fox or if he doesn't, what matters in a relationship is when you agree on how to proceed. + I love Teal Swan's video where she offers that there is no such thing as equality. And the you can only have 2/3 is always so wonderful... + the whole society issue is that the 1% has been robbing us blind and turning people onto unnatural crap like the lobster slow boil. And then feminism and religion steered women into punishing men for the state of things. To some degree it makes sense as men are the go-getters, but we women have to understand that we are the ones setting the goals/what they are supposed to go-get. And so if we women fall for the false standards the lobster eating few have dropped us in without ownership, I as a woman give you personally permission to stop wasting your time with those women. Because there are plenty of us left who value balanced relationships where we are not equal, but happily interdependent! + as for self-maximizing expertise on fashion ; hygiene and health are key, but fashion and physical form are more in the preference range --if you are lead dosha Kapha you will never be Vatta skiny or super toned, so own it! I love non muscular skinny men and really dislike large muscular men.... And eventually it's probably pheromones anyway, so just feel good with your natural shape and you won't be unhealthy or overweight! Self-love all the way!!! + I am bisexual and my attraction to either gender differences as to where I am in my mo(o)nth cycle (I don't keep data but I am validating there is sth to the theory). + As for the brother question ; as a woman I'd say having a brother be a strong respectful gentlemen-like protector can make us spot abusive or neglectful men who are not really into us. I wished for a whole biker gang in hindsight, so also know you can never give her enough support in her feeling empowered (and not taking shit). If she gets that positive attention instead of negative one where you scare her for the chance of assault because she's pretty, she won't feel empowered to kick a guy in the balls if she gropes her --so (to get ironic and jokey but still serious here) man up and stop worrying and start trusting your sister !!! + on subconscious reactivity : I don't have social media and I am still alive :-)! So I'd love a hermit, yet tribe access is necessary for us women to have that familiarity with men and that feedback-guarantee for social status. + What hoe_math keeps alluding to is the Vedic model of the mind, where you can become an observer of your thoughts instead of believing you are your thoughts. Journalling helps you establish this ability, but for extroverts a good listening and non-judgmental friend or partner is preferable, I think. As long as you become aware of yourself, you will also be better at having boundaries with women and making us feel like you are a strong, safe and stable factor in our life. + female=anima & male=animus, so this depends on ones own inner percentage/level of wholeness.

  • @seanmiller8151
    @seanmiller8151 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Highlight of the video 2:48:15

  • @eugrules
    @eugrules 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    "How do I not alienate my female friend that I hooked up with, but dont want to date" The moment you slept with her, you alienated her. So what? She's an adult.

  • @dominikbtw6645
    @dominikbtw6645 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    2:22:10 Golden Advice

  • @anthonybfernandez
    @anthonybfernandez 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    What if Hoe Math is actually the actor who plays Sheldon…

    • @rayzerot
      @rayzerot หลายเดือนก่อน

      They sound nothing alike?

  • @mikeeinstein1
    @mikeeinstein1 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    23:30 Hoe Math mentions doing a video with Yuval Harari. I can not find it. If anyone knows the title, I would appreciate it.

  • @mariorojper5851
    @mariorojper5851 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love the podcast; the question sesh though..is frustrating and individuals should present the question, rather than going on unnecessary rants

  • @josefs.627
    @josefs.627 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's all true according to my experience.
    I am a fat, guy who's a 5 on a good day. But i have my standards and integrity, and with time and vicinity to women, i could get a hot 22 yo, even though i am ten years older than her. It did not last long but it was fun.
    Keep your heads up guys it will all be alright 😉👍

  • @TM-zb8nq
    @TM-zb8nq 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    @Hoe_math book name (Being Human) love it

  • @madvillainy6845
    @madvillainy6845 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Leg lengthening is krazy.

  • @1876Oregon
    @1876Oregon 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Just because I can’t afford a McLaren, or Ferrari, that doesn’t mean I can’t tell the difference between a Honda Civic, and one of those two super cars. It’s also obvious if a girl is a Honda Civic, but she’s claiming to be a McLaren…and because of that, It shouldn’t matter what the guy looks like. Any man, whether that woman is in his league or not, can have an opinion about her looks.
    That same man might go from scraps to dating supermodels in 10yrs, yet, he has the exact same rational opinion about woman’s looks and sexual past, at both times. As a man, we are able to accurately assess women whether they’re better looking than us, or not.
    And lastly…if an ugly guy is saying that girl is a 5, and a good looking guy says she’s a 5, it should be the less attractive guys opinion that holds more weight. It would be like Shaq trying to figure out how tall Tom Cruise is by height. But since he’s my same height, I can easily tell he’s on my level…and it works the same with looks.

  • @Trec88
    @Trec88 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    there's an issue telling men lower on the scale to just find women in a familiar environment.. because society is setup in a way that once a women becomes of legal age she is strongly encouraged by her single friends to enter unfamiliar environments like clubs/parties etc. so the men lower on the scale not on have no chance with attractive women but even mid and lower level women. single parent homes is another big factor that impacts this also because women raised without a father are probably more likely to accept unfamiliar environments over a church group etc.
    also if we really want equality of opportunity then men lower on the scale need access at equal rates to the same opportunities that attractive/charismatic men have access to. i see far more looks maxed fit/healthy/well aged and unstressed executives, investment bankers, lawyers etc than i see ugly, obese, bug faced men in those positions because women tend to support and help elevate good looking men into higher levels whether through male exploitation or otherwise.

  • @DKP33
    @DKP33 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yo i just realised this girl was complaining about a guy. To sum it up I became her new guy. She was dedicated to me because of the masculine traits I had it's been a year

  • @boldyo
    @boldyo 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love the reference to 50 shades of grey. I had absolutely no interest in seeing this movie as a man, but I decided to recently watch it to see what women like since it was obviously marketed to women. I was surprised that they picked Jamie Dornan as the main character, a guy that is only 5' 10" which is just 3 inches taller than the actress Dakota Johnson.
    He is is also fairly slim without big muscles, although very trim and fit in this movie.
    I would have expected a muscular 6' 3" guy, as the actor is shirtless in a lot of the movie and they could have picked anyone they wanted.
    So maybe just being very fit and taller than the woman is enough.
    Of course he was very well dressed, and was a billionaire in the movie, and acted how women would want, but that would have been the same for any other actor.
    I have been lifting weights my whole life and have been a personal trainer at one point, and I just don't have the genetics for big muscles.
    I have about the same height and build as this actor in this movie, so I found it very encouraging that my physique may be enough.

  • @fibblit2394
    @fibblit2394 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sociopaths weren't weeded out in ancient times. They were sent into battle, because their lack of empathy makes them the best warriors. And when the army returned home, the women would choose the best warriors to mate with.
    Why do women gravitate towards bad boys? Because your partner being good with a blade benefits you, so long as he keeps it pointed at other people.

  • @saintsword23
    @saintsword23 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    On promiscuity ruining pair bonding and the advice to avoid women that have too many partners:
    Where in the world are the women that haven't had tons of partners? That doesn't exist. Every woman I've dated has a partner count of 20+.

    • @madeleinecarson7262
      @madeleinecarson7262 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Church girls man... church girls

    • @Steven-jd3ey
      @Steven-jd3ey 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      The average body count for women is around 4 to 7. You might be looking in the wrong places.

    • @saintsword23
      @saintsword23 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@Steven-jd3ey If 100,000 people have $1, and one person has $1,000,000, the average is $11. It's the same with women. A ton of them are married and have only had that one partner (the mode is 1 partner), but the ones still on the market have 20+ body counts. So while the average may actually be 4 to 7 (I sort of doubt that in itself...it sounds like women self-reporting and cutting the number by a considerable amount), but it's brought way down by the women that aren't on the market anymore.

    • @OffMetaGang
      @OffMetaGang 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's just you. There are women out there with lower body counts. We don't have to over generalize the same way women do. We have to be better than that to get what we need. She is out there and if you quit looking for her, you're going to miss her.....

    • @saintsword23
      @saintsword23 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@OffMetaGang This is so off. No, that's just not the case. We generalize because it's true. There's nothing wrong with generalizations when they're useful and true.

  • @HolyPelvisPresley
    @HolyPelvisPresley 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What's the name of the guy caller and math are talking about @ 3:00:58 I can't tell how it's spelled

  • @TheSarcMark
    @TheSarcMark 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I think he's talking about what you call computer brain.

    • @brandonmcalpin9228
      @brandonmcalpin9228 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      TikTok brain? I’ve gone on dates with women like this. Short attention span, anxious, anhedonic unless they can scroll something, typical TikTok tonality and personality, boring and weird

    • @TheSarcMark
      @TheSarcMark 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@brandonmcalpin9228 Yeah same thing. I guess he called it computer brain on one video. But I deal with that everyday being a teacher. That's why I'd have a hard time dating anybody under 28ish. Just too shallow and childish.

  • @zoeboy2766
    @zoeboy2766 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    He sounds like the “ no one will ever know” guy

  • @sutats
    @sutats 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    12:24 Glitch in the matrix.

  • @treesurgeon2441
    @treesurgeon2441 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I'll have to agree to a certain extent with Macken on the sampling bias. You can say that you are dealing with a representative sample on these shows but let's be real. If you had a show with reasonable women that aren't the products of an insane culture you would have a very boring show and not much viewership. So whether you are doing it purposely or not there's incentive to bring out the dregs.

  • @tedlogan4867
    @tedlogan4867 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Religion. Belief in and reverence for God. Like it or not, organized religion was a part of the social fabric that held people together enough to develop civilization. Nietzsche seems to be right. We're watching humanity attempt to find something to fill a God sized hole in society. We're not there, not even close, and I doubt we ever will come close. Odd to think that enlightenment and "moving beyond God" would spell the end of civilization, but here we are.

  • @Gostintheshadows
    @Gostintheshadows 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    More interactions with hoe_math

  • @BMC_377
    @BMC_377 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What really sucks is listening to these guys who have outsized success with women basically telling me I have no chance unless I can gain as much success as they have. As much as they want to say they worked hard, there was some luck. I’m a hard working dude. Honestly, I probably out work these dudes but I’m in the wrong career field (engineering). I’m in shape, own a home, and make good money. I just don’t have a lot of time to put myself in situations to meet women, even though I still do and I talk to them all them time. They just don’t want me I guess and these fellas have confirmed that. Bummer, I’m still gonna keep trying. the universe is trying to erase me from the gene pool and in my place Machine Gun Kelly? Really… damn

    • @aretwodeetoo1181
      @aretwodeetoo1181 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Honestly all math is saying is start by getting in as close to peak physical shape for the capability of your body as you can. I'd also suggest to look at all the attributes in the "bad boy" section of Zones with focus on your weaknesses (make sure you don't suck so much in any of them that it kills attraction). If you have a skill you can effectively compete on and can be performed to women, develop it and perform it (but not at the expense of physical condition and appearance - that comes first). You will notice a difference in your interactions in a year if you apply yourself to it. If it looks like attraction, take the next minimal step naturally. If it's rejected, step back and be ok with it. It's possible you can take a different minimal step later. That's it, thank me later.

  • @mozan33r71
    @mozan33r71 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    2:21:30 holy crap it's kermit

  • @matten_zero
    @matten_zero 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You don't need women. You're literally begging a person to make you happy. That is most of the problem

  • @youdonthavetoknow
    @youdonthavetoknow 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    1:13:51 / 3:19:42

  • @goveryfast7014
    @goveryfast7014 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    2:24 status has no moral bearing...etc

  • @motorbreath22
    @motorbreath22 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    55:00

  • @Mr.E_Bodhako
    @Mr.E_Bodhako 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    as a species i think we act more like or are expected to act more like ants

  • @JEKitchens
    @JEKitchens 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Michael here mentioned a "good goy" fruedeon slip anyone?

  • @kyleleblancvlogs3820
    @kyleleblancvlogs3820 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    34:00 wow I solved it. Sign a prenuptial agreement. Done. I'll take my awards and accolades now.

    • @selphconscious
      @selphconscious 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      .. alot of women would likely consider this an insult in the current day and age.. lol

    • @TM-zb8nq
      @TM-zb8nq 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If you have children she can still destroy you. The key is to find a good woman who won’t destroy you or her children. They are out there but you need to dig deeper than her looks.

  • @AncientYouth64
    @AncientYouth64 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The shortcut to all of this is don't be #### boring

  • @jeremykelly7134
    @jeremykelly7134 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    theres information youre missing and thats why its not correct. youre getting near newton in your theory. more work till at einstein.

  • @ThomasWilliams-bw3cu
    @ThomasWilliams-bw3cu 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    2:55:21

  • @veerswami7175
    @veerswami7175 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    52:56

  • @nikoseen
    @nikoseen 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Regarding the guy that women cheat with (according to my experience), I totally disagree. The exes that cheat me in the past were with guys shorter, less attractive, making way less than me, and usually without a job 😂
    We men try to logically explain why women cheat, but I strongly believe they do it impulsively and completely based on they current emotional taste, with little to no logic behind it.

  • @saadk8905
    @saadk8905 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hair transplant or shave?

    • @bdoubleeb3039
      @bdoubleeb3039 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You have to be jacked to shave it imo, otherwise hair transplant then get jacked

  • @elathiaskade7311
    @elathiaskade7311 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You can’t make an individualistic society a “familiar environment”. You’re living in bubbles that are not reproducible without significant restructuring to cultural expectations.
    Where’s your political action to affect actual change to actually follow up on this command, or how could this be an individualistic problem with an equally individual solution?

  • @HOWARD963_
    @HOWARD963_ 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    @12:24😂

  • @steph6109
    @steph6109 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Oh boy. Still so many men that dont understand women. Not too far off but so many important things misunderstoof.

    • @tgr5588
      @tgr5588 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Can you elaborate?

  • @evan12697
    @evan12697 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    47:30 just @ me next time

  • @balerion77
    @balerion77 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    8:35 Talking a PRO into F'ing 2 times for the value of 1 night ?? Why the hell would she let go off Money?
    Can anyone enlighten me? If it's easy or hard to do? I don't know how that PRO situation works, But I think it's difficult to make her F for free the second time.

    • @ryanrodriguez7664
      @ryanrodriguez7664 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      In my opinion, she was ripping him off in the first place. So it's like you overcharge and then when they bargain you just agree and secure the money.

  • @jurezibert
    @jurezibert 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    55:10 hoe_math revealed his face

  • @faithharris3439
    @faithharris3439 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Talking through illustration only works for a time, then it gets old….quickly.

    • @GodsOwnPrototype
      @GodsOwnPrototype 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It could be extended quite a lot with better organisation & presentation
      Better angle the lighting against the images
      & Or take quality photos & present them digitally in the stream.

  • @Invisibility397
    @Invisibility397 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Familiarity positivity creates safety and security Positivity not Negative Contemt sounds like there are alot of ( emotions 271 & uncommon ) the majority might want to consider learning ( Emotional Identification ) so they can ( Accurately Connect ) in their 2 - 4 year olds ( Inner Childs Masterpiece Emotion Map ) ( what age did it feel like you were As you you got emotionally Dysregulated ?)100 - 1 (an enraged adult on video played back (Unbiased Observer back acts and talks like.a child throwing a Tantrum ). But hey your leadership skills are) flawless. A Great Maul will wreck wreck a car but for some reason Yelling at it never hurts it. ...

  • @themack5653
    @themack5653 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I think hoemath expose himself @55 by accident lol

    • @Megaman-Zero-626
      @Megaman-Zero-626 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Definitely not, voice is completely different and complexion is different

    • @jordanknope664
      @jordanknope664 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      That’s Tristan lol

    • @Leonhart_93
      @Leonhart_93 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He is in his late 30s.