Milwaukee Gen 3 M18 FUEL 1/2" Hammer Drill/Driver Review 2804-20 Vs Dewalt DCD997
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Power in a Small Package - Milwaukee introduced the Gen 3 M18 FUEL 1/2" Hammer Drill/Driver Review 2804-20 in August and plans to come out with a One-Key version in a few months. This new Gen 3 Drill Driver is full of improvements in a much smaller package with more power. We love power and the only way to show you the new power is to put this drill to the test up against the Dewalt! Our testing pushes both of these drills far beyond the intended use of each model!
So some of the new items are very important to the drill operation. The new 1/2" chuck is designed to clamp to your bit harder and also release 100% by hand. The claws on the chuck have some increased rust prevention coatings and a new knurling helps your grip. Our favorite improvement is the new side handle. This new side handles attached by clamping around half of the drill rather than just a small area on the top. This greatly reduces the chance of the connection breaking and an injury occurring. The motor has more copper int he winding giving more power in a smaller package.
Hands down, this drill looks like a compact drill but gives you more power than the others on the market!
Should You Upgrade?
So you have the older model Milwaukee M18 drill/driver and now you see the new model with all this power. Making the decision on if you should upgrade is not very easy because these are not very cheap tools. Here are a few situations that would trigger us to upgrade:
If you use the side handle on your Milwaukee Drill often, the new side handle is a lot more robust. It clamps around half the drill and will hold very solid. There is no doubt this is a serious upgrade!
If you drill is always just a bit too large. The new Gen 3 Drill might get mistaken for a compact drill due to its size, but let me assure you it has all the power you could want. With that small size, we want to warn you, have some respect for the drill! Use the side handle when needed, there is no need to hurt yourself and this drill has the power to twist right out of your hands!
The LED light was moved to the lower part of the handle and that now has a much better angle to shine the light on the drilling area. It is a small improvement, but if you work in a dimly lit area, it might be a big one to you.
If you need a ton of power with excellent runtime, this is a great drill to upgrade to. There is no doubt that for its size this drill will be a VERY popular drill.
While there will be other areas of need for a smaller, more powerful drill, we feel the above areas are the most likely reason one would upgrade to this new drill. It is the most comfortable drill we have used and by far has the most power out of any other drill in our shop!
Other then the heat, I gotta say by your review it's better then my beloved DeWalt 997...great review, thanks Brian...love the channel👍#workshopaddict
Thanks Joe.
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I bought the Milwaukee gen 3. I drilled a 2” hole through a 16” ash stump long ways and it still wanted more. Unbelievable tool
I have the gen3 kit. Drill is powerful and yet to find something it can't drill. Works great on concrete as well. Will get the job done, but obviously not an SDS. The side handle is 100% necessary. Drill will hurt you otherwise. The impact driver is absolutely amazing and is the most powerful and tiny I have ever used. I tested it on a lug nut 100ft/lb and it zipped it off without even needing to use the impact hammer. Gen3 has surpassed my expectations which were high. Highly recommend!!
So far we like them a lot also!
Bought the gen 3 combo pack out for 250$ 2.0 and 5.0 batteries. Built a 4ft by 1ft strawberry tower for my wife. The gen 3 drill made 32 3in holes in 5/8 plywood effortlessly under 5 minutes. I am impressed with Milwaukee. And great review and thanks
Was literally in the market for new drill and impact driver, and these were the final two products I was looking for. The Dewalt drill is much heavier but about 20% cheaper than the Milwaukee, but after this video, I’m pretty convinced the Milwaukee is the better buy. Thanks.
GHN1013, here’s the deal about being 20% more expensive. That $40 -$60 you save is meaningless a year from now. However, you’re stuck with second best until your next replacement.
Marty Lucas - Yep, and that why I went with the MORE expensive Milwaukee. So didn’t save any 20% and still happy with my purchase.
GHN1013, good decision on your part! I got a pretty awesome deal @ Home Depot Jan 2019. Gen 3 Hammer Drill, Gen 3 Impact, M18 Fuel Hackzall, the large PackOut Box, 6 amp HO battery, 5 amp battery, and charger for $320.00. If I remember correctly, the outside cardboard wrapper said that the retail price was $843.00.
That kit really got me started in the M18 platform. I already had a couple of M12 tools. I’m really happy with my decision to go Milwaukee!
Awesome review, thanks! These new Milwaukee Fuel tools are so damn impressive. Quite pricey, but this review makes me want to save up my money for it!
Just an FYI for any having who might be having issues with the bit coming out of the gen 3 Milwaukee. A week ago a Milwaukee rep showed me how to “lock” the chuck onto the bit. Once the bit is in an and you tighten as normal, then you turn the chuck ever so slightly back clockwise and you will feel the chuck bump back over a slight resistance. It’s supposedly locked onto the bit then. Removal of bit is normal, easy, and only when you want it then.
Good info -thank you.
It's funny, I just saw someone commenting this about on a differing video about DeWalts coming loose. But nowhere does it say in any of the manuals that you should do that.
The shorter length is a huge bonus imo. Much easier to maneuver your bits to the right spot than with a heavy long drill. I was torn between dewalt and milwaukee but im very happy with my gen 3 fuel
This review contains a great deal of valuable information but I doubt heat will be much of a problem with this drill for most people. The first cordless drill I remember seeing on jobsites a few years back was the DeWalt DC983 14.4 volt. It delivered about 35 pound feet of torque which was enough for most tasks. This new FUEL gives a maximum of about 100 pound-feet of torque but it shouldn't need more than 35% of that for most tasks. It should run much cooler if it is running at less than one-third of its maximum power.
looks like a smaller gen 2 with better Chuck and bit smaller but it gets hotter.. I'm holding off on this upgrade. just had both gen 2 impact and drill warrantied in last 3 mo so hard to justify the $
Been using Milwaukee for 10 years or so. My only complaint has been those damn chucks. I think you just sold a new gen 3 kit. Milwaukee should pay you a commission.
I work for you, not Milwaukee.
That's some really impressive performance, especially for such a compact design. The electronic clutch feature which helps set the screw is a great addition.
I have multiple DeWalt drills and the Gen 2 just bought the Gen 3 and im gonna sell my other drills there's no way to regret this
Wow ! Pretty impressive performance with those large hole cutters ! I'd get one right now if I wasn't already retired !
I hear ya, but the Amazon link I have in the description has it for $129 delivered. Hard to pass up!
7:33 that's what I wanted to see. I've spent all day looking for someone to demonstrate the electronic clutch on the Milwaukee. Looks better than the dewalt clutch, with that little punch of torque before it cuts out.
Glad you found us.
Great video! I just got the 4 tool combo in the pack out case. I’m glad I got such a great deal on these tools!
I am total into Milwaukee i have this same combo i can say enough about it i also have the new 7 1/4 circular saw this thing is a beast and the rocket light with the 3 heads is awesome Milwaukee has really step up there game for 2018
I’m intrigued by this one. I feel like the impact seems to just be a shorter version of the current model but this hammerdrill is a whole different drill in every way. I’m thinking that as a DeWalt guy they are taking notes and are planning a drill in the next few years that will jump over this model so that they can try to boast they have the best drill on the market again but we’ll see. One thing I can say is that the m12 kit I got a love and am using more than my 20v yellow colored kit. Uh oh.
You should watch some of the impact comparisons (Gen 2 to Gen 3) here on youtube. It's definitely not just a "shorter model". I just got on of the new impacts myself. It's a much faster and more powerful impact.
As you said that it got warm. Others have said it got hot. Will see if this becomes a problem. Beautiful drill no doubt. Makes me want one though.
I try not to look at what others do/say as I want to form my own opinion. My question is, have the other people who said it got how pushed it like I did with a 3-5/8" boring bit? That really is what started the heat coming.
@@WorkshopAddict yeah they pushed it hard no doubt. But they said even the gen 2 didn't get that hot. True. Need to form your own opinion. That link to amazon is cheap. Wow for 129 not bad. Love your reviews.
I have used this new gen3 and it gets way too hot just drilling 2” holes with a hole saw In steel pipe and metal studs. Had to drill a 4” inch hole once ( again with a hole saw) and it was too hot to handle after going through at my best guess 16 or 14 gauge steel. Not only was it uncomfortably hot but I had to give it a break because I didn’t want to kill it. The company I work for supplies us with Milwaukee tools and I much prefer the older gen 2 drills. Everything else from Milwaukee is spot on though just this new gen3 drill has a few issues. Also don’t like how the mode selector has been added to the clutch selector as an all in one. The separate mode selector was one of the best parts about gen1 and 2.
I have noticed too when I first used mine but later on the heat went away with in a week or 2 I guess you need to break it in or so...
The link on your description for the gen 3 on Amazon, is the gen 2.
for $100 off at home depot, just picked up the The 2799-22CX M18 2-Tool Combo Kit hammer drill and impact from Milwaukee.
I'm not sure about the Dewalt hammer drill now. I've got to upgrade my 12 Volt drill for a new hammer drill combo. More are saying milwaukee is better. Great video.
We show the Milwaukee Gen 3 up against the Dewalt DCD996 in hammer mode and the Dewalt beats the Milwaukee in Hammer mode by a long shot. But really only in hammer mode.
Im in the UK i have just this min found someone on eBay in use selling new combo kit with 2 5 amp battorys for $230 . Im still on gen 1 love the drill it's seen a hard life but still going strong the chuck is in its way out it keeps letting go . So it will be interesting to see the power difference
Very large power and size difference.
Thanks for the link I'm already loving it
Your welcome. Merry Christmas.
I love it. You are not wrong it the respect it comment. Truthly unbelieveable drill, I think the heat concern from using it is that it is smaller so less material to move the heat. The impact driver def gets toasty if you use it hard not unbearable but its expected if you use it hard. My m12 newest one gets hot as hell,before I got this kit.
I am working with the impact driver now and it is amazingly small and powerful!
Milwaukee looks like the winner great video
Milwaukee Power Tools is Always #1 when it comes to Raw Power. 💪
Great video very nice drill, and who cares if it gets a little warm while running, it's not cutting out on you or stopping, and if something were to ever happen you have A 5 year warranty. Milwaukee for the win on this drill and their new impact driver.
Your going to need it from the looks of it
My gen 1 has gotten very hot, and still no issues. The only thing Ive had done is a chuck replacement.
That’s really impressive! Great review!
Thanks Tim
@WorkshopAddict Would this be ok for primarily automotive use as a driver? I saw a deal on a used one and I'm tempted to try it. I was looking at the mid-torque 3/8 and 1/2 M18 drivers before I saw the post.
Agree , most powerful drill out there right now , had to upgrade my team with new drills , loved it so much , doesn’t disappoint, Milwaukee did it again
The light is better in front of the trigger, tri-light is best, but for drill, in front of trigger is better than bottom. Like regular Milwaukee. Bottom not as good.
Disappointing as a hammer drill, drilling into concrete i still have to break out the corded hammer drill .
I use my drill with a 2.0 battery and it struggles to drill even a 1 inch hole. Do i need a bigger battery??
Great review, thanks for sharing. I should have watched this first. It would have saved me a trip to the store to return my Makita combo kit and exchanged it for this new M18 Fuel which is much better.
My gen 2 drill chuck was stiff and gritty. Gen 3 is easy and smooth.
We got 2 gen 2 drills and both of the chucks got like that, the gen 3 chucks are definitely a lot better
Just so u are saying that a brand new Milwaukee out performed an older Dewalt...is that surprising to anyone??...
The point is it not only beat it but its substantially smaller.
This kit does not come with the latest tools, It comes with the 2853 impact instead of the 2857.
The video is fairly old.
@@WorkshopAddict I'm looking for a 2-piece kit that includes both the latest impact 2857-20 and hammer drill. Do you know a model number for that?
@@nsxproperties560 I do not know if it is out yet. I will ask.
2996-22
Is the 2804-20 still the best that Milwaukee has to offer?
great vid keep up the great content
What would you recommend this hammer drill or the drill /driver for a ice auger and general purpose use? I don't drill thru concrete and bricks
The ice augers we use need 600 inch pounds of torque. If you want small, the Milwaukee Gen 3 rocks, but it might be too small for a large auger. The feeling of a small drill on a big auger is awkward. The Makita is ia nice midsize power house. Or the larger Dewalt dcd996.
Just got the fuel for my new 8 inch eskimo pistol bit auger - vids online show what a beast this little one is
The eskimo pistol bit has a centering blade now and longer bit for the chuck too - This will be a monster on the thickest ice 1200 lbs torque - set the handle opposite of drill handle for best grip on auger. 8 inch holes no problem all day long and under 10 pounds too for full set up. Crazy...
I think that the drills stall so they don't break your wrist.
Only the One-Key drills with kickback control.
this new drill is a "sleeper"...you wouldn't expect such power out of a drill that small
What is the torque in drill mode?
3:41 how much for the dog? I can pick up in an hour
Some days that answer might be free. LOL.
so is the gen5x ridgid octane sds plus on your list to review? (R86711B)
Not right now. We can, but we just reviewed the MegaMax the SDS on that was just OK. Do you want us to add it to the list?
WorkshopAddict sure when you get a chance.
I returned two of these drills because they had an unacceptable amount of chuck runout. If you use the drill for rough work, maybe that’s not a problem. My Gen. 2 Model 2704 was better.
Did you find one that didn’t have an unacceptable amount of chuck run out? I own the 2704 and has the same issue.
I gave up after the second one. Regarding the 2704, I had to return the first one and the second one I got was better. One thing I noticed is that the chuck is really sensitive to how it grips the bit. Even with the 2704 that I kept, I may have to reposition and retighten the bit a few times to minimize runout. This was true of bits with straight shanks or with flats.
Does this have the one key feature?
Not yet, but it is coming soon.
Dewalt can't hold a candle to milwaukee...and I'm not just saying this as a fan boy...i use them everyday and know.
Thanks for the laugh
Depends what tool your talking about.... cordless circular saws, flexvolt...no comparison, ...60v right angle drill , no comparison, 120v mitre saw, no comparison, and many more....but Milwaukee is a great company and many tools are the best
I use milwaukee another guy I work with uses ridget and everyone else dewalt. I seen two Dewalt xr drills melt trying to cut through steel using g a 3 inch hole saw. My brushed milwaukee is still going
You sure it’s not the bind up control/anti kickback that’s stopping the dewalt all the time? This feature is unique for the bluetooth drills 997/992, not for the 996/991. Here is an example of what I’m talking about: th-cam.com/video/jc2-z6r7Dbg/w-d-xo.html
I suppose a test to see if this is true would be to run the same test again with the 996 instead.
Old video I know, just wanted to point it out. Guess you may also have figured this out by now, several years later.
Milwaukee just pounding through these holes 😏
Wow that's a serious bit
Yeah, rough in plumbing bit.
You should’ve went to speed 2 on the Dewalt
? For the 1-1/4" spade? Then I would be comparing power at different speeds. That would not have proved anything. The DEWALT drill is still no Joke, but it does not have the power of the Milwaukee.
WorkshopAddict it would’ve proved you have an extra gear to use if necessary. Therefore it can probably beat the Milwaukee.
I get that, but it lost in low range with the 3-5/8" bit, so the Milwaukee beat it for all out power. While level two would have slowed the Dewalt down and it would have completed the same task as the Milwaukee on high, just slower.
Not slower, but on the same speed.
Dewalt's speed 3 is the same as the Milwaukee speed 2... Dewalt's speed 1 is the same as Milwaukee speed 1. Dewalt's speed 2 is a midrange speed.
That is one powerfull drill .
I am impressed!
Love your vids man but this 1 kinda made me worry when your goin hole saw too close to your manhood nd femoral .. please be carefull if that bit jumped you couldnt put out more vids we dont wanna lose you over a review... i know your smart .. all nd all not tryin to be a dick, i appreciate you nd many ppl do long story short great review.. A++
Dont ever buy Milwaukee especially one key. I took them months too replace
where is this milwaukee drill manufactured?
China
@@WorkshopAddict is still of good quality u think? im looking to buy one today!
Yes, I do not think you will find anything any better on the market. If they are assembled somewhere else, the parts still came from china.
@@WorkshopAddict thanx for the video and the info!
Glad to help!
Not as nice as my dad's AEG fusion hammer drill
The chuk 👎l lyke the chuk Rohm ,the Bosch
Deciding🤯😃
The Description has a link to Amazon where you can buy the tool for $129. That is cheap!
Danny McBride does tool reviews now? This wasn't as funny as his normal stuff..
My first impressions too....hahaha
" Oh yeah guys the Milwaukee is better then the dewalt.. even tho I don't put the dewalt on 2 or 3 speed "..... Well go fucking figure smh
You obviously did not watch the video......
I own the gen 3 but I think the gen 2 looks badass 😂😂