I do both, but I do more long form. I must say that my long form get more views. I do use the shorts to bring attention to the long form. In my case shorts don’t really hurt me. As far as subscribers I get almost all of my subscribers from long form. The shorts get me views.
We did damage to our quiz channel by posting name-the-song shorts, often people would sub just because they liked the song rather than subbing because they were true fans of quiz content. After this realization we deleted the 600 shorts from our channel and focused on long form quizzes only. It takes time but eventually the algorithm adapts and starts finding you the right audience again ... One other thing we learnt is that when we deleted a large number of videos from our channel on two occasions it confused the algorithm, it "might" be best to set unwanted videos to unlisted or private rather than deleting them ...
I couldn’t agree more. I have 750k subscribers and probably 725k of them are shorts fans, maybe even more than that. My content isn’t fantastic but it’s real, it’s me and my dog and it resonates to a lot. I take the exact shorts that people like, make long form out of it and they flop. My guess is that algorithm quits as soon as the subscribers don’t respond well. Although I’m going to continue to try to flip the script and gain long form viewers, I believe it’s probably too late to correct it since the subscribers are so high. So… be careful what you wish for. 🤷🏼♀️
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I wonder if you unlist your shorts and check if your long form content isn't pushed out - it would be an interesting experiment if you ever tried it ... It would be nice if you can report back if you do decide to do the experiment... :)
Tried both, doing lots of shorts and doing lots of long form … and I’m currently mixing it up but heavier on the long form. My new channel sees growth everyday, so I’m happy with that. Slow and steady it will be for me ! 😊
This is interesting analysis, but speaking for myself I watch shorts when I'm in the mood for shorts, and long form (sometimes two hour videos) when I'm in the mood for them. So just because someone came to you from a short doesn't necessarily mean they wouldn't watch an eight minute video.
I've been posting about 500 shorts as French Canadian traveler and my average view is 500 while I post the same thing on Tik Tok and I get between 10k to 100k views on each.
Well shorts are strategic for those that want to expand their reach. Problem is like everything else, folks go overboard posting anything and EVERYTHING flooding the internet with more JUNK instead. Which in the end, basically hurts almost everyone else. And that's really the only REASON a Small Channel Creator should not like them.
Dude when i started my channel three years back there was no such thing called shorts, i posted my first 150 videos in long format but still it didnt got the attention it wanted and now when I'm slowly posting shorts not frequently but once a week my long videos are also getting attention bcos of the shorts..bcos shorts videos also pushes your old longer videos that are dead... This is my research
I personally feel like shorts with the goals to use it to support subscriber count is great, but after the 1,000 the shorts should be more strategic. When I do short I plan to use as much as the full 3 minutes as possible because I want people invested in the message, not entertainment.
I believe 1000 committed subs are better not loyal subs! In your opinion how long does YT algorithm take to push small NEW creators videos / out for subscribers to watch them? I’ve watched over 96 hours of videos from both small and large channels, however in your opinion what is a good CTR for 8 min videos, etc.?I know a lot of metrics and analytics 📊 go into this process.
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I do both, but I do more long form. I must say that my long form get more views. I do use the shorts to bring attention to the long form. In my case shorts don’t really hurt me. As far as subscribers I get almost all of my subscribers from long form. The shorts get me views.
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We did damage to our quiz channel by posting name-the-song shorts, often people would sub just because they liked the song rather than subbing because they were true fans of quiz content. After this realization we deleted the 600 shorts from our channel and focused on long form quizzes only. It takes time but eventually the algorithm adapts and starts finding you the right audience again ... One other thing we learnt is that when we deleted a large number of videos from our channel on two occasions it confused the algorithm, it "might" be best to set unwanted videos to unlisted or private rather than deleting them ...
I think Shorts works for some channels. However, focusing on shorts will take a lot of time.
I couldn’t agree more. I have 750k subscribers and probably 725k of them are shorts fans, maybe even more than that. My content isn’t fantastic but it’s real, it’s me and my dog and it resonates to a lot.
I take the exact shorts that people like, make long form out of it and they flop. My guess is that algorithm quits as soon as the subscribers don’t respond well. Although I’m going to continue to try to flip the script and gain long form viewers, I believe it’s probably too late to correct it since the subscribers are so high. So… be careful what you wish for. 🤷🏼♀️
Don't quit I'd say give shorts a break and just focus on long term videos.
@ I may. I didnt really start the channel to make money, just wanted to see the reaction from getting a puppy. But now I have a taste of it and it’s enticing. Thank you.
WOW! Thanks for sharing and showing people that shorts can be great for numbers, but shorts subs are different.
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I wonder if you unlist your shorts and check if your long form content isn't pushed out - it would be an interesting experiment if you ever tried it ... It would be nice if you can report back if you do decide to do the experiment... :)
Tried both, doing lots of shorts and doing lots of long form … and I’m currently mixing it up but heavier on the long form. My new channel sees growth everyday, so I’m happy with that. Slow and steady it will be for me ! 😊
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True. I just can’t get into shorts. I always look for long forms. ☑️☑️
I agree with you. Yes, you can make shorts, but they may not show the content you do, and they just run by the short and could care less about it.
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If your shorts r remixed from your own long-form videos, then it's small effort for reasonable returns: views and subs. I feel it's worth it!
Agreed 💯 long video is legitimate., in fact shorts would be a helping hand kinda thing besides people are used to surf or scroll unintentionally
I just used shorts to hit 1k now I’m focused on long form because it pays wayyyy more like 10x more
This is interesting analysis, but speaking for myself I watch shorts when I'm in the mood for shorts, and long form (sometimes two hour videos) when I'm in the mood for them. So just because someone came to you from a short doesn't necessarily mean they wouldn't watch an eight minute video.
I've been posting about 500 shorts as French Canadian traveler and my average view is 500 while I post the same thing on Tik Tok and I get between 10k to 100k views on each.
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Am with you on that, new TH-camr here, I'm focusing on long from content
My channel is still a slow burner but shorts are the only format that achieves anything. Horses for courses I guess
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long form is the best, I just make shorts just to give my channel activity at least, but yes longs are best
Well shorts are strategic for those that want to expand their reach. Problem is like everything else, folks go overboard posting anything and EVERYTHING flooding the internet with more JUNK instead. Which in the end, basically hurts almost everyone else. And that's really the only REASON a Small Channel Creator should not like them.
Dude when i started my channel three years back there was no such thing called shorts, i posted my first 150 videos in long format but still it didnt got the attention it wanted and now when I'm slowly posting shorts not frequently but once a week my long videos are also getting attention bcos of the shorts..bcos shorts videos also pushes your old longer videos that are dead...
This is my research
Glad they are working for you
I upload shorts if I don't have a thought that would make a longer video. I prefer longer content.
I Tried shorts to get subs cause my subs traffic from long form videos are slow. Probably gonna hurt my long form videos viewer then ?
I personally feel like shorts with the goals to use it to support subscriber count is great, but after the 1,000 the shorts should be more strategic. When I do short I plan to use as much as the full 3 minutes as possible because I want people invested in the message, not entertainment.
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I've made a couple of shorts and they aren't going under my shorts! Grrrrr.
I believe 1000 committed subs are better not loyal subs! In your opinion how long does YT algorithm take to push small NEW creators videos / out for subscribers to watch them? I’ve watched over 96 hours of videos from both small and large channels, however in your opinion what is a good CTR for 8 min videos, etc.?I know a lot of metrics and analytics 📊 go into this process.
It depends but after we stopped posting shorts we saw our longer videos start to get more views. But it wasn't overnight.
Shorts are good for obtaining more subs for new content creators ONLY or tease current audiences for optimum content performance.
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