Easy DIY Install | Clever Keylite Loft Ladder
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- Sponsored by Keylite, How to install a loft ladder with Keylite.
The Keylite loft ladder is clever. It is designed to ensure simple, fast installation and ease of use.
With pre-installed Flick-Fit brackets, allowing installation from below the loft, and with a unique detachable ladder which enables one-person installation, the Keylite Loft Ladder is designed to make your life easier.
Features
- Flick-Fit installation - Pre-installed brackets for installation from below
- Continuous seal around trapdoor reduces heat loss
- Pre-fitted handrail as standard
- White 36mm thick insulated trapdoor, with U-Value of 1.1w/ m2k as standard
- Unique detachable ladder - enables one person to install
- Recessed locking system
- Slip resistant treads
- Dovetail joints on all treads
- Scratch resistant protective feet
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Great helpful video Roger. We needed to move our loft hatch location and were looking for a solution. So following your tutorial, and a bit of further research about making a new loft access whole, yesterday I made a new access whole and then fitted a Keylite 700 x 1200 ladder. Successful DIY job sorted. All in a day. Thank you Roger 👍
My Dad installed mine, and he said it was very easy. I love mine!!
Installed one of these following your video. Mine needed it's hinges lubricated as they were as stiff as a teenage husband.
Nice one Roger. Got mine today and is first class. Maybe fit it tomorrow.
Had two of these 1200 x 700 installed by my joiner who is thrilled with them and is going to start using them with other clients. I was worried that being a fairly fit but hefty guy (19st) that the ladders just wouldn't hold me ...they do! and without flexing or creaking too. Roger, I always look forward to your videos , thanks again for an honest review . keep up the good work.
Good to know he likes fitting them, they are well thought out
Keylite a Delight 2 Fit Thanks Roger for presenting another Great innovation will be checking out their Web Site ASAP "Great Work, Well Done!"
Brilliant. Going to cancel the carpenter and try installing it myself
What a brilliant video, thanks so much! Top man
Thought you were going to show us how to open out a bigger loft hatch hole? Did I blink and miss that bit or is it on the cutting room floor?
I feel making the hole needed for this was skipped over. A fairly essential part.
The hole was there. Most lofts have a trap
Hi. Great video. Do the flexi brackets and brackets opposite just provide the support during install or are they integral to the support once installed? Thanks
Brilliant Videos, just in time, saw your Festool TS55 Plunge Saw Vid and decided the HK 85 might be better for me as I want to use it at as a table saw with my router table. I'm fitting a loft ladder as soon as I get home, (I work in the M/E)
Thank you for the comment. I am glad the videos help. Please like and share, we need help to grow. Try that Keylite loft ladder, it is easy to fit.
Shock and awe! I just bought the Festool HK 85 online from eBay new for 400 quid, just the saw without the tracks for now, I have Trend Guide Clamps I'll use for my next job after fitting the loft ladders, boarding out my loft!
Key lite is right install friendly. Love their products!
designed by people who have worked in the building industry so they come at it from our direction.
Easy jazz
Who hates doing loft hatches? I always seem to get ceilings that were made in the dark ages and end up doing something drastic like boarding & skimming the whole landing just to get the loft hatch looking nice...
Yes I know what you mean. I had to take care not to disturb the lath and plaster too much. You can see my patch on the left. The decorators re-papered that bit of ceiling and it looks a treat but I did say at the beginning that you need someone with experience to do the cutting out. Fitting the ladder is really easy though and if you have a hatch you can probably do a straight job. I made life more difficult for myself by going large.
Hi Roger, I have 150mm of KS insulation on top of the loft hatch...an idea about installing some thing like this but perhaps above the insulation? Great video - as always!
Would be good if you was to show the part where you cut the hatch bigger also those ladders look like they are very close to the loft door with no room for your feet on the step
These look ideal for what I'm trying to do. For those who've fitted one, can I ask if it's possible to open the hatch and drop the ladder down from above?
thanks.
I really like this loft ladder and installed it myself about 2 years ago. My only little gripe is that the hatch opens a bit too far meaning the loft ladder isn’t straight when in the open position. It has a curve to it and the treads are slightly leaning forward. The steps arnt cut too short which you might think. Has anyone else had this issue?
What level of insulation do these integrated hatch and ladder provide though?
I was going to buy one based on this video but unfortunately Keylite don't seem to make a ladder over 3.2m. Other makes that look exactly the same that also sell an extension kit, perhaps Keylite should look into that, I had to buy something else.
Is the cut out stated exact I’m a couple of millimetres too short
It looks like a bigger gap between the treads around the hinge.
Is it me or did he just completely skip the part where he said make the hatch bigger for new one to fit? Its the 1 reason i clicked on video
I agree, he did not show that, but he did say that the existing hatch frame did not make full use of the available space, and it looked to me like he only had to remove it and trim the loft flooring back, as the structural timbers were wide enough. Perhaps.
Hi
I am wondering
How much will it be cost to make one of this ladder please . I am looking to build one on my loft . Thanks
How much would you charge to install
Great video and easy to follow. Sadly, the width at 700mm is a little too big. I only have 565mm to play with. Is there a smaller version? Thank you.
My loft hatch was 565mm and I chose the Oman Polar Deluxe loft hatch with ladder. U Rating of 0.36 which is better than this one in the video. The Oman Polar has 86mm insulation.
Hi Roger. Help! In your plumbing visits have you come across a 'loft' ladder that opens out of a vertical rather than horizontal opening? I could do with one for my tank room which is a half storey high space directly above the bathroom which opens into a one and a half storey hall. Bob.
Yes it is called a scissor ladder. I haven't seen one for a while. Telescopic ladders also do the same thing but I can't see how you would attach it.
Thanks Roger, you're a gent! Bob
This is my answer to the vertical hatch scenario. loftladdersdirect.co.uk/shop/vertical-domestic-concertina/
I got an oman polar 2 that's 0.36u. But simular design to this
Great video though. New sub
Same. I bought an Oman Polar Deluxe.
Looks a bit too vertical to me, could do with lowering a bit to allow it come further toward the user and be at a better angle.
The hatch mechanism dictates the angle and the feet are cut to suit. If you reduce the angle it makes it harder to get anything, such as suitcases through the hatch.
I own a company that installs 5 to 10 of these type of ladders a week, for me the best ladder on the market is FACRO you can also buy a trim ready cut from screw fix that will finish the job off nicely if your miter cuts aren't the best this type of ladder is more superior to the aluminum drop down ladder
Hi why is the Fakro better than the Keylite range?? Also what is the screw fix trim called?
Idol
Lovely job Rog, how much we looking for one of these?
Just over a hundred quid
Isn't that box/frame hanging well below the ceiling. How do you dealing with that?
It’s actually flush with the ceiling. Just an optical illusion on the video. I just fitted one and it was as easy as this guy says it is. I have a new build, and the hatch was too small, so I had to take the old hatch out- one of those plastic beasties, and cut out the plasterboard and do wee bit of jiggery-pokery with the joists. I did it from start to finish on my own. Only trouble I had was I ordered the wrong length of ladder - it was longer than it needed to be. I just cut it to length like he does in the video, and instead of just having a wee bit left over, I had a longer bit but it still looks great.
Can you cut roof trusses for access and then restructure them
No, once they have been cut you need a steel or something like that. I am sure you could screw plates onto the roof trusses but it would never get signed off
I have jus received this ladder. And every seems ok. Accept i have put it up. And it is. So stiff to try and open. So i took it back out. And ive literally got to really force and price it to open it fully. I rang keylite. And they said. They do tend to tighten the springs quite tight. For couriering etc. But its that tight. I cant pull it down with the bar. I have to reach and drag it down and push it open. Wer as in your video it comes down with such ease. Any ideas. Thanks.
I think you can adjust the spring.
It's because they're sprung mate. The spring can be adjusted, so it's not so snappy.
Does anyone know what the trim is used at the end to finish the gap off?
Architrave
Dovetailed? Do you mean half housing joint perhaps? Dovetail joints are for corners.
Enjoyed the vid though with the mad staring eyes lol
hi Pablo
You are right to question this point but they are dovetailed . With modern woodworking machinery it is easy enough to cut a blind housing from the bask of the string and then feed in the treads with their dovetailed ends.
If makes for a tight joint and no need for screws.
@@SkillBuilder I wondered the same thing. What i think you're talking about here is a French dovetail or sliding dovetail joint.
Would have been good to go into more detail of attaching it like the screws used.
how sturdy is that ladder for the larger/heavier chap ?
How heavy? Can that person get through the hatch?
@@SkillBuilder 6ft2 ~115KG currently no hatch
The specs say 160kg max, presuming that includes the load being carried!
I'm 126 kg and no issues even carrying items over 40kgon top
His eyes 😳
Them customers will need a harness with the ladder you chosen for them as it's nearly vertical lol
iSteps to heaven
my loft hatch is like 90cm by 57cm or 900mm by 570mm. i cant find a ladder hatch compatiable/ small enough. can the hatch be widened?
BB- Ballistics yes
What is that annoying ticking?
That is your life going down the drain like the steady drip from a tap
Gutted after installing this hatch I've been getting lots of damp in the loft I tryed everything to fix it yet still kept getting it so last through of the dice I built a box around it on the top and added a cover to fix the issue honestly buy a better product
The problem you have is air leakage around the trap. It needs a seal which is simple draught excluder.
I am guessing you have a ventilated roof space that pulls moisture up.
@@SkillBuilder I've used exspaning foam and there is no air on the out side of the box
I've fixed it by building a box exstention and added a top since then it's better
yeh ill get a electrician to fit it
1st
There'll be lumps outta that ceiling from them folding it up
My works too. Used woodprix handbooks and build it with no problems.