What is the best way to study as an INTP? | CS Joseph Responds
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I only have one tip. DO EXERCISE . It's not that hard and once you do it, the rest of the things that require your discipline will seem way easier. Even my mood is remarkably better during periods when I train compared to "sedentary" periods.
wait, what do you mean, do some exercise when you wake up so that you can be productive for the rest of the day?
😂 Bro I do that too im reading and doing Curls
Or Every 4 minutes i do 7 push ups
Its really does work
For me I Am learning Computer science and
If when i am struggling
Problem-solving-idea-wise
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Take breaks and during the exercise an Idea will come to you
That sounds exhausting
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@@user-wp7fn4ol4xSort of. It depends on the person. It's like when you're playing a game on hard mode and you suddenly set the difficulty to normal and it becomes much easier.
INTP here. I struggled constantly in school despite my intellect, for the same reasons Chase describes above. When I was finally forced to figure out how to get through my engineering degree because of impending fatherhood, two things came out of the wash.
Firstly, I conditioned myself to develop an addiction to crushing exams. When I received 117% on a test in component design with the average being a 65%, it was an unbelievable high.
Secondly, because I was the best in my graduating class with the math and the concepts, people learned to rely on me as a source of knowledge. I would do my homework by helping other people with their assignments, and then just writing down the answers once I'd helped ten people with theirs. If I was alone, you wouldn't catch me doing anything other than Sudoku or reading.
Could you explain to me your first point?
Wtf is this comment
woah
dope advice
Hey I'm also an intp and I struggle with math in my school days my favourite subjects are literature and humanities subject also I'm not good at cracking exams....idk how it works
the day before an exam, i tried to study in an empty room but ended up trying to perfect my handwriting with my non-dominant hand
Aw man, I started doing that a while ago. No worries though, I still have two days to finish the syllabus and then it's exam.
Embrace the anxiety of failure as motivation. Don’t postpone things you can do right away. If asked by a teacher/ parent/ supervisor to do something, start it within 30 seconds. If you’re already busy, start it as soon as you can. Save relaxation for when you’ve finished.
Good advice, I do that after coming home from work. Once I transition from my work brain, I don't want to do anything.
The pleasure I am getting from listening to this as a distraction from the work I should be doing, insane really 😔
as an intp I get distracted by my own thoughts so even sitting in an empty room isn't enough sometimes.
their where times in my life where I was super productive though.
You could try libraries, study cafes etc. I find it easier too study when there are people judging me if I'm not. Passive guilt trip lol.
@@Owl-yc2yu your right i have always found it easier to focus when their where people to judge me for not studying looking back on it.
Yep! Just thinking about the things I like and what I can do with them is distracting, sometimes I can spend hours just doing that. I find I'm most productive when there is so much to do I don't even have time to think of anything else.
This is so accurate
@@Owl-yc2yuthis would def work on me but I have trouble leaving the house
Lmao that’s so true. I could NEVER listen to music and study whereas my ENTP Roomate in college could listen to death metal and write a paper
Lol I work better when I listen to music while working
Im an ENTP and if i truely want to concentrate learning something i could never listen to music. Maybe i could while im writeing something, idk.. I like death metal lol
I think the distinction between "study" and "produce" becomes important when it comes to music for an INTP. Wordless music can help create flow for the purposes of enabling ideas to get from the mind onto the word doc, not so much for memorization.
I'm an intp who can literally only get work done with music on cuz I get less distracted by random thoughts
@@tink6225 The random thoughts could be a byproduct of the overstimulation that comes with dopamine. I have the same issue, which is why meditation or time alone in the woods, etc. might be more useful for INTP's (especially today when we have smartphones and therefore constant access to cheap dopamine) otherwise we'll never study properly and thus fail to get anything of real substance achieved.
That is SO true.
For exams during my bachelor degree in Mathematics, I couldn't study in my room. I just COULDN'T bring myself to it. Always delayed and ended up playing video games. Had to force myself to the university library which was 1 hour away, go there without anything other than study material + pen and paper and sat there then for a few hours. Which actually worked, I managed to study without problems for a few hours as I had to rationalize wasting 2 hours travel trip lol
When I was 25 I moved out, got my own place but was too broke for internet. I pretty much went to work read books I could purchase from my local half price store and lived simply for 3 years. In that time I was bored and inspired enough to start my art business after just getting my life together.
I definitely needed to remove the creature comforts of modernity with the added Introversion just to see me properly and aim at life properly.
Do you still do that? Remove yourself from tech, as a mental device?
As an INTP (lol) I can confirm music does not help and I’ve wished before to be stuck in what’s basically solitary confinement where the only way not to be bored is to study/do homework
Yessssssss !!!!
1. very good explanation. especially the part about school and university, why the motivation was missing
2. music can be partly helpful when it's not about memorizing. when i studied for my university math exams very intensively, i listened to intense technoid or psychedelic music on the side and that pushed me a lot
3. albert einstein did not fail math, the swiss grading system is reversed, hence the error on the internet
4. thats why a good solution could be with some life experience to become a freelancer, so you have to move your ass for your own sake day by day
I don't need to take everything out of my room, I study in the dark, no distractions. I also turn my hearing aids off, no sound either (There are many advantages of being deaf)
Also disadvantages
@@SykeeNot not really, if I bring spare batteries with me everywhere then nothing can go wrong.
I really wish I could shut down my hearing sometimes, so I totally get that.
I've found that structure is one of the best things for my study (sucks, but you gotta do it). I wake up at 4am (my brain is foggy at night; clearer in the morning), go to my study, and then work in increments. 52 minutes work, 17 minutes rest. Yes it's weird that they aren't even numbers, but I've found it to be best personally.
Anyway, two small tips:
Leave your phone in another room and keep the notifications off.
Don't study in your bedroom. That's most associated with sleep and relaxation, so if you study there (guess what?), you'll start feeling sleepy and relaxed.
- INTP (I think) student with 6 classes per 8-week term
also no food in the room :)
how many hours do you study per day?
@@exod.o3220 Roughly 4 hours a day. I could do more, but I need leisure and time for what I've learned in class to set in
could u explain more on what work could mean in 52 minutes work, 17 minutes study.
@@niranjanarangaraj Sorry, I meant “break” instead of “study.”
Agree with this. The best way I've been able to study is to wake up early (or really late at night), grab a coffee, and isolate in some area with chair and table. Campus living made this a lot easier since I could just leave everything and walk out to a study area. Music is iffy. Mostly use it to block out other sounds.
Pretty much everything you said is true! I learned fairly early school was basically just memorization. How much did I retain? not a lot.
And I really wanted to read more a few years ago and like you said removed the dopamine in this case a tablet, smartphone or computers. That year I read like 75 books!!
I totally agree with this. I just finished my degree, and I was always at my best when I ran out of distractions (like cleaning or meal prep, all less difficult things). Suddenly, when I was tired and uncomfortable in my computer chair everything would just click and I would knock out my assignments. It always came to outlasting my own distractions. As Chase said, since I was pursuing something that I wanted for my career, that was motivation to succeed as well.
Nice observation. Figured it out only through a depression stage and now I see it clearly every time it manifests itself. The more Si I practice, the harder it is to focus and get back to work. I wonder if I liked school only cause my mom tried so hard to restrain me at least in some spheres. Also, figures why I started failing as soon as she let go of me and indulged my late night stays and gluttony.
This is very useful information. 💎
I am an intp and I approve of this message.
Thx to the INTP asking such good questions (martial arts, tech careers, studying etc.) :))
THE DAY AFTER MY INTP BF’S FINALS YOU POST THIS?????😤 (Still love you Chase )
Edit: Omg my bf already does this so nvm carry on with your life XDD
INTJs as well struggle with dopamine when they have nothing to do. My dopamine addiction cost me 2 years of my life on bs. I learnt to overcome this by watching alex becker, an INTJ, on how to overcome dopamine addiction.
Understood.
Yeah this confirms my experiment I did a month or so ago where I was just so fatigued, sleeping 14ish hours a day, couldn't even read one paragrapg of my maths textbook. Decided to take a week off from studying, not even thinking about it. By day 2, especially 3 I was almost begging to get back to study. Held off for the week though then I was way more efficient.
The dopamine thing is interesting too, I know if I don't start studying as soon as I turn on the PC it's not likely I will do it. Maybe towards the end of the day when I haven nothing else to do and get a second burst of energy.
As a newly discovered INTP though I am pleased to hear there was actually a reason I did not agree with school where I know I am capable in other areas, and that if I can get self-discipline down there's almost no roof to stop me. Really motivating actually.
That may be true for some, yet not all. One of my great loves is studying. If I don't study something daily, I don't feel like I've had a complete day. I'm a really strong INTP and have lived with it for 81 years. I would say that I you interest an INTP in studying something to prove a point, it's hard to get them to stop studying. Although, if it is necessary to study something they are not interested in, I agree with you it is VERY difficult to maintain any kind of interest in studying at all. So, IMHO as an INTP, the best way to study as an INTP is to create a challenge rather than use force whether that is an inner or outer force.
I'd add that education in science and education in how government/law/society is structured are also pretty necessary.
They might not help me as an individual as much as reading and writing, but society needs you to be informed about it.
wow this video is so good, i figured all these things you told in here long time ago but still not able to prevent myself from being distracted but this videos pushes me to do better. i think you are an intp yourself
just wow man
i'm an INTP
and that is the only thing that has worked for me
i basically got a nokia calling phone .. and removed my accounts from allll social media .. and stopped music and movies and series .. and i was productive
and now you are saying the same method that i used
You are absolutely correct in pointing out that Si child ruins our potential especially academic potential. And the only way to grow is to isolate or discharge from all distractions and just focus. But tbf forcing people, or let alone forcing children this way would create pressure that may create a mental imbalance in the child. I'm not saying it's bound to, but forcing and then the intp resenting the force would bring Fi demon out. Maybe co-operative methods by engaging with their Fe could work.
Hedonism, I've known I have this problem as far back as when I first accessed the internet. But I didn't pay much attention to it up until recently. I realized It's literally destroying my life and my overall health. I'm on the internet all day watching something instead of paying attention to my friends and my family and texting them back, or getting enough sleep. I really have to break this cycle, or it's clear it's gonna affect other people's futures, not just mine.
Don't be like me if you're reading this.
I needed to hear this!! It's hard to get rid of everything but I would I agree I often finished much work when it's my only option to deal with!!
I don't know how much I've disappointed some teachers I respect although I don't care if I make them proud or not nor do I care about my results. Butit's coming to a point of annoyance with myself having to hear disappointment statements (in a tone that I hate to listen to) I get. I hope a better grade might do me good someday.
I found out that actually physically "starving" i.e. being hungry makes me more ambitious. I guess it correlates with the "hunt and digest/rest" instinct.
I've never heard of this body temple. This is possibly THE most interesting INTP video I've ever seen.
Try being an intp with several sensory processing disorders. School nightmare cubed.
so much truth. i remember not knowing how to read when i was almost 8 years old, and my aunt was tired of trying to teach me and must have been suspecting that i already knew how to, to some degree. so she shut me in an empty room with a book about chimpanzees and said not to come out until i could read her the whole thing.
i was out in about 45 minutes and havent struggled with reading ever since.
As an INTP even in a bare room with just pen,paper and study material…I’d probably end up drawing on my paper and writing my inner most thoughts 😭
So.... put them in solitary confinement with the homework.
Superb video.. absolutely spot on the challenges of study for INTP .. I tripped across a Huberman vid on linking your dopamine hits to the process not the result.. might try it tomorrow, or the day after that 😁
Excited to hear what you have to say about INTP Enneagram 5w4.
I'm an INTP and I actually miss formal schooling. The authority and rigidity tames my Ni critic constantly doubting if this is what I want to do. I do think I thrive best when in a structure that hits the sweet spot between rigid and flexible. I hated elementary to highschool but I loved college where I could somewhat pick and chose what I learned yet also had a set of boundaries to follow.
On an unrelated note, I loved studying the woke stuff (sorry csjoseph lol) I felt it set my soul on fire? I felt my Ti hero couple with my Ne and just go nuts with it. Super fun, I've never felt so alive. I wonder why though
I don't know if it will work for you but simply if you just want grades("approval from the school system") I would say use the fear of the deadline for assignments and exams as motivation. I think simply learning things to complete the assignments and really focusing while reading for the exam is enough preparation to get a good grade. if you find the topic in your course interesting just focus on it and learn about it. In your free time learn about things that are interesting to you or procrastinate by day dreaming.
Hope the CS J version of the ennea gon' still come out within this decade.
"Schools really own test memorization skills."
Deja vu. I said exactly this back in the 5th grade.
Man, for me, I have to see a practical application of a concept, even if that is limited in scope compared to the full capabilities of the concept. Then once I have that seed then I can begin to expand into the more theoretical and dynamic uses of the concept. If I try to begin with the un-established concept too much information gets swept aside as background noise. Much like water vapor needs a nucleation point to begin condensation. For me to begin absorbing information I need a nucleation point for the information to begin adhering.
Seeing a practical application makes my mind go "Hey! It's a tool, I can use this!" then once I learn how to use it for that purpose, even if it is a purpose I would never use it for it still goes in the junk box that is my brain. Then my brain will go "How else can I use this, that others might not have thought of as a use for this concept." It will probably become part of a Rube Goldberg solution to a simple problem. Just because I hate to solve a problem that someone else has already solved in the exact same way.
This too. When I know what practical purpose something has and the potential for knowing that opens up, I naturally get very excited to learn about the thing. But folks rarely tell you why knowing something is important, just that it is. This has been the biggest problem for me growing up.
You saved my semester thanks ❤️
I’m an INFP but a lot of this applies to me😅😅😅 I’ll try to implement these tips!
7:37 wow. My (much older) brother did this to me when I was in high school. I sat at the dining room table and had to finish my homework before I could go to my room. I hated it, but maybe it was for the best.
I never studied in my whole life, despite having straight As and winning countless contests. My way of doing things was to be a total not social nerd (that I was anyway), sit in the front row in the face of the teacher and understand everything in class. Then for things not covered in class I would logic my way out of things, as in challenge the whatever was written in the textbook without having seen it. I grew up in a poor home, we were 3-4 people in the same room always, so no privacy, no silence.
I also loathed the kids that memorised stuff, I kind of called them stupid lol. It just felt so wrong (the memorising).
Later in life indeed I have seen that my main blocker in getting results is the constant shiny object syndrome, I literally depend on absorbing information so much that it is a jumping all around exercise. Never played video games, rarely watch movies or other classic dopamine fixers, mine is trickier 😅
Working out greatly helps with self discipline, but do you know of something that would work better?
I have always intuitively felt that I need to remove all sources of distraction and be in dead silence in order to work. And I might be able to do that if I just have a book and piece of paper. But how can I do that when learning to code?
Computers have a gui with programs, and tabs, and things you need to click on, and things you need to look up. And you basically cant be a programmer unless you do all these things. Unless I can get myself to just sit there staring at my text editor. But I feel like it’s inevitable that I will need to leave my text editor. And I might have some excuse like “oh i need to look up this thing in order to build my program”… so lets leave my text editor and open google chrome. And then I spiral into distraction.
Can’t study until you fast from dopamine
blocks “NI critic”
DONT EVEN LISTEN TO MUSIC
REMOVE ALL OTHER CHOICES UNTIL YOURE LEFT WITH WORK
Please do this for INTJ too
Einstein never failed math lol, he was did great in all the science subjects
wow this is accurate! sitting in the library w no electronics worked for me in high school. also highly excited for your enneagram thing, I volunteer to be a lab rat!
Oh wow you are so on point about this. I’m an INTP going through online college right now and the only way I’ve found that I can focus is by shutting myself in my room with everything turned off and noise canceling headphones playing music that doesn’t have words and is repetitive
Personally I think consuming dopamine in small doses while studying is beneficial, my study routine of 30 min of work + 15 min of whatever u wanna do, has been very productive and efficient instead of restricting yourself and put urself in agony throughout the study session
When I was studying network, I thought it was boring (especially to read). I began sticking cookies into pages, about 10 apart. Works like a charm.
Damn I wish I could be this efficient lol, I always make attempts to research and implement effective study methods, to assist in learning the concepts I’m studying more effectively, but what always ends up happening is instead of studying the planned 45 minutes and rest 30 minutes…. I study for 45 minutes and then take a break for 3 hours lol
@@TheSkaterjoe123 Tbh to me studying efficiently is all about finding your own way to do things, pl can teach u online, but the best method is one that u can come up with yourself, the methods they teach online is super generalise, the praticality is more for the isfj, you should come up with something that you yourself can stick up with and not slack off.
@@pleboslavski1566 thanks for the advise, I believe I have my own method of studying, it’s sort of chaotic and very flexible, but I still manage to get things done in a timely manner and manage to understand the concepts I am learning pretty well… i guess it’s more just my desire to learn new things and look for more efficient ways to do things that lead me to trying to experiment with different study methods. Perhaps I should just stick to what works already, and aim to improve that system haha. To me, nothing is really perfect, there are always things you can do to improve a system 👏🏽
true after high school i spend 3 years of my life just in my bed watch films series ..all day i was addicted to dopamine and when i want to back to university to study i can't i just want dopamine but i have to study to get a job so the thing i did after help of god is living a boring life with any source of dopamine and that way i was capable of focus in study and go to class thanks god
Chromebooks are also a blessing in disguise for school. I bought one for my wife and I thought it would be perfect for school, because the hardware sucks so bad that you can ONLY have a couple of tabs up at a time. Perfect for school!!
but what is the study method? Like making mind maps, discussions, ect?
Yeah, I've said this: It's memorization, with little else. The problem is, it goes down the hole of forgetfulness, so what is an educated adult??
I used to listen to music but now white noise seems to be optimum for focus
This is, as the kids say, "BASED."
Oh no so my inner voice was actually right
As an intp I can only study in short bursts. I will watch tv shows and then pause the show every 10 min or so to read for a minute or two and then continue the show. That’s just what works for me.
Thank's for one more content about INTP's, Chase
0:56 for me, it's not that . I think that school is for teaching us how to learn more than anything else although I do agree with the majority that the approach is wrong. School is supposed to teach us how to think in any given situation and how to find out solutions.
Your Enneagram work could be revolutionary. Glad Chris Taylor is involved.
Wow, lately I have found that the best (only) way I can study, is going to a park without any electronics, just a mechanical watch and my book.
I’m an INTP struggling in college- even considering dropping out over my inability to do the work. Would our type benefit from adderall to help us get tasks done? I’ve been diagnosed with ADD inattentive and used to take it, kinda helped but I didn’t love all the side effects
or should we just develop the discipline from within, or both
I maintain there is an overlap between diagnosing criteria and type that biases against types that are rare. Despite that, I can't assert that it doesn't exist and do have to defer to medical professionals when it comes to the treatment aspect.
@@CSJoseph fair response. I don’t doubt that rarer types are more likely to be diagnosed with disorders.
I feel you 🥲
hi, I am an intp and I have important exams starting in 14 days that I completely procrastinated revising for the small amount of content that I 'vised' in the first place I have forgotten and/or don't know how to apply the knowledge when it comes to exam question. Any study tips on what to do because my problem isn't the content its just that when I see an exam question I feel like what it's asking me is too vague and I never know what I answered is the correct answer for sure. Also if I stop procrastinating or procrastinate less for the 14 days left how can I make sure I do well in my exam ?
I straight up just read until I understand. I hate taking notes.
Looking forward to the Dodekagram
What am I supposed to watch to understand the terminologies, Si inferior/child, body temple, gluttony deadly sin...
Intp. Spent years laying in a dark room cause my dad said you can go out when you get a good report card. I made sure they got progressively worse. I had a bed and lamp. Guessing the bed makes it not the same as your theory about how to get them to work. Dead by 20 was my goal. I was immovable
Wow, now that's commitment to rebellion.
We INTPs can derive pleasure from like... anything, if I think about it. Wikipedia can be a source of pleasure... seriously... lol.
please do a best way to study as an INFP!
I like the term "body temple" better than "Alpha quadra" or "crusader."
Raggin on CRT + the modern education system and the dissolution of gender... LFGGGG!!!
Very useful video.
How much of this advice would apply for young intjs?
I need to know more about the Body Temple, when will the next mail lecture about the Body Temple be available? Great video! Thank you for your job!
I'm working through them, it'll be in the next month or two.
There's no record of Einstein failing at any sybject at school, lol. GG.
what you just said it describes the majority of people and it has nothing to do with being an intp specifically
False
I find it easier to study when there is competition around.
Except on College I guess, getting a course for future careers...but there is an EXAM where you said "...it tested on memory, not on intelligence" before entering college and even after(for it is required for college students who took courses for public service). For future Lawyers they have the so-called BAR examination for the purpose that I don't actually know
I don't know how Education System works there in America so... it might be complicated
Also Applies to most INTPs in Gym Training or Anything
if masculine men and feminine women are supposed to be okay then surely so is the opposite. not everybody is the same.
really bothers me as somebody born transgender people cant realize that some people arent gonan fit in your little boxes, some people, because people thought i was supposed to be a masculine male person and trying to force that ruined my entire life
What's the percentage of a person being born as transgender?
When people talk about masculine and feminine usually they're talking in generalization.
In that scenario, it depends on what a person chooses. With relationhips like that I've coached, someone winds up adopting a more masculine role and someone winds up adopting a more feminine role.
Exactly. It's part of being INTP to question these boxes society puts you into, questioning every norm!
@@CSJoseph appreciate the reply i forgot about this, happy 2023
Put us in a blank room for us to get anything done. Ok, make it padded while we're at it.
Would it be better to do a dopamine fast, or just remove any dopamine temptations while I need to considerate on school work?
Can you please explain for infj on the same topic?
Just in time. I was just trying to figure this out myself
Now that I'm almost halfway through this video. Your answer is the same as my conclusion of what I just get done. Removing myself of all the dopamine filled activities around me for some time. At home I get caught up in games and stuff that limit me from focusing on my studies. Usually at work where I can't use my phone, I'm the most productive person there. I know what I must do but the pull is strong
Recently started working out in the woods again sadly all the gyms are closed and I'm not allowed In because I'm not vaccinated.
In an earlier video, you said that companies are willing to hire DBAs with just the certifications and no college degree. I have not found one other source or person who says this- could you point me to the companies or sources you said proved your point?
Can this also be applicable to INFPs?
Yes IMO
My Ni nemesis and Fe child deriving motivation from Vegeta quotes for my gainz before the set
I’m an ENFP and I think I can relate to it too 😅
Si child: “You are underestimate my power!!! Bahahaha”
Si child: *Fall asleep while studying*
This is me :’)
I'm struggling with pmo 😢
المشكل هو اني كلما حاولت انهاء كل شيئ و استبعاد كل المشتتات تستمر بالظهور مجددا
Sure Education is a Waste of Time...but schools should be like primarly for Socialization purposes and secondarily Education. Does that make sense 😅???
06:06 awesome where do I signup for the testing.