What? They played really well after that trade last year when Bunting was on fire. There was no reason to think he would have a terrible year like this at the end of last season.
The fact is that the 4 highest paid guys on the team are over 30 and have NMCs. And outside of Sid, they're all on the decline. Dubas never should have traded for Karlsson. Playing defense is like a hobby for him, instead of a job. His risk is not worth the reward anymore.
What does Dubas have to do with the state of the penguins at this moment? Nothing any GM could have done to right the Pens ship, they've had a long run and just like the Blackhawks, when the core superstars get old the wins dwindle, and the win at all costs attitude means farm system and draft capital are non existent. Any chance for the Pens to be good now was given up four years ago, well before Dubas was hired.
Something's gotta give. It's one thing to lose, but you can't keep getting embarrassed every game, and that's what's happening. I honestly think this Utah game was it for Sullivan. Not saying it's his fault entirely, but coaches are the fall guys more often than not. I never really felt like his job was in danger before, but I feel that now after this game.
Nah he inherited a mess and was asked to make this team a contender again. Rutherford and Hextall failed at it so I have no idea why anyone would expect a less experienced GM in Kyle Dubas to fix things. I wouldn't have hired him in the first place. He was left with some bad contracts by Hextall as well so isn't totally to blame here. That being said this team should've been rebuilt or retooled a few years ago when swept by the Isles. The team is trying to win again with this core for years and it's been an exercise in futility.
It didn't have to go down this bad tho. Whoever decided to keep beating the dead horse with different GMs is to blame. The writing was on the wall for the Pens after the 2019 playoffs and whoever was involved in the decision making wouldn't accept that the core was done winning.
Ned youve been one of the most consistent players this year. If we feel bad as fans i can only imagine what its like to be a player out there watching the whole thing. I know you dont read youtube comments but i just wanted to say that lol.
I don't see a single point in the Pens immediate future. Lucky for me, I expanded my appreciation of hockey to the entire NHL. There are 32 teams in my league, and there is a lot of good hockey being played. If you win more than one Stanley every 32 years, give yourself a pat on the back.
@@cazschiller Sully is stubborn and won’t make adjustments despite having an old, slow team. He’s a good coach but there needs to be a change and you can’t trade 18 guys
I’ve been disappointed with Dubas. I guess he didn’t have a lot to work with when he arrived. Rutherford made a lot of great moves but man that Brassard trade was horrible. Some have said 71 should’ve been traded 5 years ago. But that wasn’t going to happen probably his last year anyway. EK has been a complete bust. If he’s not going to play defense just make him a winger. 87 is going down with the ship I guess. You know it’s killing him . START THE REBUILD NOW. Stop the madness
The lifecycle of a stanley cup team. Same thing with the hawks. At this point, aim for a 1st rounder. Dubas messed up and let Yager go for a drama queen.
Start with the stale coach. He hates playing young players. He still can't fix the PP woes. Dump and chase with a slow team. The D leads in the offensive zones, which creates the opposite 2 on 1 breaks.
Dubas built another team based on some hypothetical advanced analytics... This guy sucks at building teams. Like he destroys all hope. Throws a hail mary every time he does anything.
He’s been awful this year and for whatever reason seems to get cover from the media. If Jarry gives up 6 he’s back in the ahl. This guy gets excuses made for him after every game no matter how many he gives up.
Jarry is so inconsistent. One game he plays lights out, next few he gets scored on first shot and gets pulled after 6. It has happened to Ned once, but Ned and Blumquest are much more consistent. Having such a weak defence exposes Jarry’s inconsistency.
Sullivan when you play 5 offensive defensman and 1 shutdown defensmen this will happen constantly with 2 on 1's the other way. Absolutely zero physical players at all. FSG you chose wrong in hiring a young GM..Id hide also dubas with the crap players you brought in.... You Suck dubas. PS: Hextal has a set and would of at least fired sullivan awhile ago.
Smart talk from a guy who just let in 6 goals. 🤡 Career backup over here trying to talk like “he cares”. Bro, you’ve been mid your entire career at best.
The Dubas effect in its glory. As a Toronto fan I really am sorry that you got stuck with Dubas. If the ownership cared about the product and the fans they would show Dubas the door.
Well, at least there's one guy who gives a damn.
Who?
They care. They just suck lol. Talent matters.
Dubas?
You don’t think Crosby cares?
Saying something and doing something are totally different. Talk is cheap.
when they let jake go that tore the heart out
What? They played really well after that trade last year when Bunting was on fire. There was no reason to think he would have a terrible year like this at the end of last season.
The fact is that the 4 highest paid guys on the team are over 30 and have NMCs. And outside of Sid, they're all on the decline. Dubas never should have traded for Karlsson. Playing defense is like a hobby for him, instead of a job. His risk is not worth the reward anymore.
From us Leafs fans sorry about Dubas but we warned everyone about him. I hate to see Crosby finish his career like this.
I can’t stand him
What does Dubas have to do with the state of the penguins at this moment? Nothing any GM could have done to right the Pens ship, they've had a long run and just like the Blackhawks, when the core superstars get old the wins dwindle, and the win at all costs attitude means farm system and draft capital are non existent. Any chance for the Pens to be good now was given up four years ago, well before Dubas was hired.
Nah its awesome
I wouldn’t wish this kind of half brained management on a dynasty like the Pens, I don’t think Kyle has any clue what to do with this team
It's not his fault stop blaming the GM
Something's gotta give. It's one thing to lose, but you can't keep getting embarrassed every game, and that's what's happening. I honestly think this Utah game was it for Sullivan. Not saying it's his fault entirely, but coaches are the fall guys more often than not. I never really felt like his job was in danger before, but I feel that now after this game.
Dubas shit the bed.
this team was one point out of a playoff spot when he arrived.
Nah he inherited a mess and was asked to make this team a contender again. Rutherford and Hextall failed at it so I have no idea why anyone would expect a less experienced GM in Kyle Dubas to fix things. I wouldn't have hired him in the first place. He was left with some bad contracts by Hextall as well so isn't totally to blame here. That being said this team should've been rebuilt or retooled a few years ago when swept by the Isles. The team is trying to win again with this core for years and it's been an exercise in futility.
Just like my Bruins time has caught up with the Pens. Both teams need a complete rebuild. I do feel for Sid though.
It didn't have to go down this bad tho. Whoever decided to keep beating the dead horse with different GMs is to blame. The writing was on the wall for the Pens after the 2019 playoffs and whoever was involved in the decision making wouldn't accept that the core was done winning.
love this guy
Utah forwards just stood in front of Ned. Been like that all year.
That is one guy who is really frustrated with the team’s effort in front of him.
Ned youve been one of the most consistent players this year. If we feel bad as fans i can only imagine what its like to be a player out there watching the whole thing. I know you dont read youtube comments but i just wanted to say that lol.
yeah consistently bad lol
He has three .900+ games out of 11. He's been trash, just like most others.
@@JohnSmith-jb2jf Be nice, NHL players are people too.
@@JohnSmith-jb2jf facts
@@JohnSmith-jb2jf So maybe we need some better defensemen to help out our goalies lol
This is heartbreaking.
So glad we’ve kept Sully. Great missing the playoffs, not winning anything if we do for 7 years. It’s awesome
When you sell the team to a Boston Sports conglomerate , WTH do you think was going to happen?
Starts at the top. If management can mail it in , why shouldn’t the players?
Future bench boss there.
The players can do better,but I also feel as if the system they play isn't working.
I don't see a single point in the Pens immediate future. Lucky for me, I expanded my appreciation of hockey to the entire NHL. There are 32 teams in my league, and there is a lot of good hockey being played. If you win more than one Stanley every 32 years, give yourself a pat on the back.
in the cellar
Fire Sully
FIRE SULLIVAN, NOW.
Yes I agree
Should've never traded for EK and signed Jarry, Sulli is not the problem. Stop with the scapegoats
@@cazschiller Sully is stubborn and won’t make adjustments despite having an old, slow team. He’s a good coach but there needs to be a change and you can’t trade 18 guys
He saying it without saying it. Sullivan has to go.
Come on back to Carolina Ned.
i like ned a lot.
I’ve been disappointed with Dubas. I guess he didn’t have a lot to work with when he arrived. Rutherford made a lot of great moves but man that Brassard trade was horrible. Some have said 71 should’ve been traded 5 years ago. But that wasn’t going to happen probably his last year anyway. EK has been a complete bust. If he’s not going to play defense just make him a winger. 87 is going down with the ship I guess. You know it’s killing him . START THE REBUILD NOW. Stop the madness
He might be trying to shoot his way out of town
@1:06
Get what done? They are tanking and need years of early picks to collect more talent. That's reality.
The lifecycle of a stanley cup team. Same thing with the hawks. At this point, aim for a 1st rounder. Dubas messed up and let Yager go for a drama queen.
DUBAS HOCKEY - TANK FOR DRAFT PICKS
Team is 🗑️ and the team is cooked.
Where's the pride?
Start with the stale coach. He hates playing young players. He still can't fix the PP woes. Dump and chase with a slow team. The D leads in the offensive zones, which creates the opposite 2 on 1 breaks.
Dubas built another team based on some hypothetical advanced analytics... This guy sucks at building teams. Like he destroys all hope. Throws a hail mary every time he does anything.
it’s not your fault
He’s been awful this year and for whatever reason seems to get cover from the media. If Jarry gives up 6 he’s back in the ahl. This guy gets excuses made for him after every game no matter how many he gives up.
Jarry is so inconsistent. One game he plays lights out, next few he gets scored on first shot and gets pulled after 6. It has happened to Ned once, but Ned and Blumquest are much more consistent. Having such a weak defence exposes Jarry’s inconsistency.
Jarry let's in the first shot or 2 every damn game and then shows no emotion. He belongs in the ahl
Sullivan when you play 5 offensive defensman and 1 shutdown defensmen this will happen constantly with 2 on 1's the other way. Absolutely zero physical players at all. FSG you chose wrong in hiring a young GM..Id hide also dubas with the crap players you brought in.... You Suck dubas.
PS: Hextal has a set and would of at least fired sullivan awhile ago.
Smart talk from a guy who just let in 6 goals. 🤡 Career backup over here trying to talk like “he cares”. Bro, you’ve been mid your entire career at best.
gave up 6 on 28 shots, maybe try making a save then
jarry is the starter now
Nice rage bait lol
Love it how so e folks think that they know everything…yet they know nothing.
The Dubas effect in its glory. As a Toronto fan I really am sorry that you got stuck with Dubas. If the ownership cared about the product and the fans they would show Dubas the door.
What's the deal with his eyebrows? Look at the caterpillars.
Classless Curtis is back. Go to bed boomer
What’s the deal with your goatee lol
Why isn’t Crosby giving this speech? He lets the young goalie do it. Crosby has his nest egg. No more passion required.
Ned the most inconsistent goalie in the show. Not sure why teams keep signing him.
bunch of overpaid has beens
Penguin fans…..I told you the pain you would feel when Dufas is in charge! You are toastt!😅
Seeing Penguins lose game after game is awesome