My problem with assassination rogues is how in 8.3 every kidneyshot can get you 100 to 0'd in it. Even if there is no vendetta, the rogue can kidneyshot a target (could even be the healer, or just a dps with other cc on the healer), and it will be lethal if either: 1. the rogue or his friends pop a high rank of twisted appendage just by being lucky 2. the opponent's eye of corruption pops just by the enemy player getting unlucky 3. the rogue's friends throw op bullshit mythic claw trinkets on the target to take 150k hp off the target each Any of these things happening while the rogue and his team use basic damage abilities (like mutilate, fireblast, essences, etc) can turn any kidneyshot lethal and require the investment of heavy cooldowns (bubble/wings/trinkets/ascendance/blessing of sacrifice), even if the rogue or his team commit no big burst cooldowns (vendetta/combustion/dark soul+infernal) themselves. Combined with the ridiculously low CD on kidneyshot, it feels so toxic to face assassin rogues. It feels like they have a kill window you have to give more respect than a bursting ret paladin, but it's every 20 seconds.
Dk is tricky because they take a little bit to build up their damage so they can seem like they aren't doing much but their go is nuts. Watch Omni bar and when they have abom unholy frenzy and asphyxiate they are going to start bursting and then kill you in an asphyxiate when it's in full swing. GL
Splendid video! Could you look into releasing the destro lock version shortly? Or, perhps, on each video have a strawpoll where the viewers gets to vote on what spec they'd like to see coming up next? )
Watching as a Sin Rogue to try to counter the people who are trying to learn how to counter me. So. Next video idea "How to counter a rogue who knows how I'm going to counter them already".
this is not right tho, assa rogue is not that predictable.. not at all... also me as one of 'em have 2 tactics I play around if you do trinket blind or not.... it's a good to let people know this cc chain is possible but mostly likely not gonna happend bcs almost everyone trinket blind instantly :D which mostly kills em if you press it in correct time (when out of deff or healer in trouble)
Guys ill make this easier just kill rogues on site no need to watch the video. If you see a rogue kill him swap everything to him, dont let him fight dont let him play just kill them as soon as they pop
@@ceh885 Maybe people shouldnt be able to get kills within 6 seconds? IMO thats the bigger issue. Removal of CC is what makes PvP in this game shittier, nobody except bad DKs and fury warriors who wanna faceroll people in a dps race want that. I mean rogues used to have 10 second stunlock back in wrath and nobody but bad players considered them OP Edit: Main druid here, dont even play rogue
how to counter rogue: play a other class and perma cc him becorse every class have more cc than rogue nowerdays usually i sit CC with my rogue and CANT FUCING PLAY THE GAME fear fear root coil stun fear root coil... yes its just one class that can cc me for like the whole FUCKING GAME and yes i cantr kick fear becore than i get 300k Chaosbolds in my face and if i save kick for Chaosbolds i get fear fear Root Bold fust look at the ladder there is NOI FUCKING REASON to counter rogue this shit class is fucking useless nowerdays everty other class can more than rogue some examples : DH have more Movement and more dmg he also have stuns (nearly more than rogue) a RANGE kick becorse DH dont have good Movement. Warlock : have better DMG even if they cant cast and have more cc DK : more dmg and also have a stun WW monk : way more dmg and more cc than rogue + first of FUCKING sick dmg and unstopable mode rogue is a shit class every other class is WAY better than rogue and i dont even talk about subrogue sub is not even playable
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Hey guys! Over the next few weeks we'll be releasing knowing your enemy guides for all the best specs. Enjoy!
My problem with assassination rogues is how in 8.3 every kidneyshot can get you 100 to 0'd in it. Even if there is no vendetta, the rogue can kidneyshot a target (could even be the healer, or just a dps with other cc on the healer), and it will be lethal if either:
1. the rogue or his friends pop a high rank of twisted appendage just by being lucky
2. the opponent's eye of corruption pops just by the enemy player getting unlucky
3. the rogue's friends throw op bullshit mythic claw trinkets on the target to take 150k hp off the target each
Any of these things happening while the rogue and his team use basic damage abilities (like mutilate, fireblast, essences, etc) can turn any kidneyshot lethal and require the investment of heavy cooldowns (bubble/wings/trinkets/ascendance/blessing of sacrifice), even if the rogue or his team commit no big burst cooldowns (vendetta/combustion/dark soul+infernal) themselves.
Combined with the ridiculously low CD on kidneyshot, it feels so toxic to face assassin rogues. It feels like they have a kill window you have to give more respect than a bursting ret paladin, but it's every 20 seconds.
I'm confident this series will do very well
I would love to see dk next. How do i survive him? How is he building dmg up? When to use major Defensive vs him
Dk is tricky because they take a little bit to build up their damage so they can seem like they aren't doing much but their go is nuts. Watch Omni bar and when they have abom unholy frenzy and asphyxiate they are going to start bursting and then kill you in an asphyxiate when it's in full swing. GL
love to see this"counter class" series
This is really great *know the enemy, for next can be Monk, lock.. Mage or dh (order)
Knowing enemy if not the best but one of the best ways to climb.
Pls do ww monk next! This class has been a pain in cheeks!
No don’t do that
Big tip if ur melee watch out for the fist of fury because we have a pvp talent that parry’s all attacks when its casted
Splendid video! Could you look into releasing the destro lock version shortly? Or, perhps, on each video have a strawpoll where the viewers gets to vote on what spec they'd like to see coming up next? )
Wtf skill capped why you screwing us rogues over like this 😂
I want to see how to deal with Rogue Mage.
Pretty easy actually.
Once you see you are facing rmx, the only thing you gotta do it /afk while in the box. Easy dubs
Big defensive CD...and then surrender
Watching as a Sin Rogue to try to counter the people who are trying to learn how to counter me. So. Next video idea "How to counter a rogue who knows how I'm going to counter them already".
Can you do RNG next?, how do we counter substantial corruption procs and avoid getting soloed by stars?
How can u be soloed by stars since the nerf? Im thinking of taking off my t3 stars cuz they do literally no dmg insome matches
Tony Sunshyne I’m exaggerating. But In 2’s once dampening Ramps up stars get so hard to heal.
@@alexingram4618 u despell the debuff they leave on the target, right? :D
@@raphimenzi Of course!
@@alexingram4618 then i rly don´t understand it but i wish my stars would do that amount of dmg :( running to less haste i guess
Great guide! Rogues*** not ROGUE'S... it is not possessive!
keep ur distance now without trinket mean a oneshot in a smoke bomb
Hey, rogue here - I would appreciate you not making these... thanks ;)
don't worry, it still doesn't help me to catch u when u're in stealth -.-'
The proble isnt the rogue.. but the corruption.
Keep distance yeah its not hard because after opening they run back to Westfall
this is not right tho, assa rogue is not that predictable.. not at all... also me as one of 'em have 2 tactics I play around if you do trinket blind or not.... it's a good to let people know this cc chain is possible but mostly likely not gonna happend bcs almost everyone trinket blind instantly :D which mostly kills em if you press it in correct time (when out of deff or healer in trouble)
Dwarfs racial can Just NEGATE the rogues burst if well played
Probable Dk or Mistweaver
Plsss do MW monks next!
Ah man, you brought this out the day I start putting up assa rogue content :( now everyone's gonna smush me (jk bring on the mirror match ups)
cringe...
DavePoon 2. Yeh imagine writing cringe on TH-cam Kappa
I dont understand how you cringed from that. You must be a pussy IRL and extremely socially awkward
Guys ill make this easier just kill rogues on site no need to watch the video. If you see a rogue kill him swap everything to him, dont let him fight dont let him play just kill them as soon as they pop
/afk, there ya go.
Well blind sap just should not be possible. Rogues? Nerf kidney to 4 secs and blind won't make target drop combat. Fixed.
This will make rogues useless and not viable at all so that’s retarded
@@bigdamjudge wrong. This will balance an utterly op specc
@@ceh885 Maybe people shouldnt be able to get kills within 6 seconds? IMO thats the bigger issue. Removal of CC is what makes PvP in this game shittier, nobody except bad DKs and fury warriors who wanna faceroll people in a dps race want that. I mean rogues used to have 10 second stunlock back in wrath and nobody but bad players considered them OP
Edit: Main druid here, dont even play rogue
@Fermentum Mobile no
I was first
how to counter rogue: play a other class and perma cc him becorse every class have more cc than rogue nowerdays
usually i sit CC with my rogue and CANT FUCING PLAY THE GAME fear fear root coil stun fear root coil... yes its just one class that can cc me for like the whole FUCKING GAME and yes i cantr kick fear becore than i get 300k Chaosbolds in my face and if i save kick for Chaosbolds i get fear fear Root Bold fust look at the ladder there is NOI FUCKING REASON to counter rogue this shit class is fucking useless nowerdays everty other class can more than rogue
some examples : DH have more Movement and more dmg he also have stuns (nearly more than rogue) a RANGE kick becorse DH dont have good Movement.
Warlock : have better DMG even if they cant cast and have more cc
DK : more dmg and also have a stun
WW monk : way more dmg and more cc than rogue + first of FUCKING sick dmg and unstopable mode
rogue is a shit class every other class is WAY better than rogue and i dont even talk about subrogue sub is not even playable