Why COUNTER Picks DON’T MATTER in LOW ELO! - Top Guide
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0:00 - Introduction
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What do you think is the hardest matchup to play in League of Legends?
Garen vs quinn
Veigar vs katarina
Yasuo vs everyone
Yuumi mid vs zed = D
yasuo vs sett/renekton
the plat riven literally lose so ez because she has no skin
Skintimidation is real.
Skin = ez fundamentals
skin = skills
@@stevene1643 Specially miss fortune arcade skin, damn does that skin throw me off so hard or soraka when she not playing the same skin as i use on her
Arcade riven👌👌
What I learned here was study every single lane matchup super well and you will be able to crush anything. In other words git gud and earn high elo in the process…
Thats a summary of all the videos in this channel
fundamentals should be more than enough at the start. that and champion mastery.
I am in silver ELO when it comes to lane fundamentals when I am playing my main champ which is fiora I never knew that what I did instinctively was so important and was the reason for me never losing lane but it made me understand that I have trash macro because no matter how well I play laning phase I manage to lose almost most of my games
Ban Yi in bronze you win more games
@@gh0stluv979 yi is trash
"...in LOW ELO"
First video, Plat
...I feel attacked
Actually, Platinum is considered low elo not until you reached around Platinum 1 up. The reason is that platinum is in between gold and diamond and there's no "average" or mid elo.
@@CastelAhri dia is considered low elo too... dia 1 qnd up is considered high elo. Maybe its possible to call all dia high elo on other servers? Like euw, korea and china
Statisticly it is mid elo but if you are not plat 2 or higher you are low elo . People in plat 4 are legit lucky gold players that had a good team here and there or smurf jungler or enemy went afk etc . And thats how they got to plat . And these types of players with usually be plat 4 no more than 30 lp . Actual plat 4 players still suck but are better than gold 1 V2 ones
@@elementalgolem5498 like what @overpowered said, statistically speaking plat 1 or above are the ones you can consider being high elo. Don't try to relate other servers to each other because each server is primarily different. We all know that there are servers with higher skill cap than the latter. It still consider being high elo once you reach at least P1 to Diamond and up. Remember, people living in these tiers had something in common that is why they are there, same with what Hector said earlier, and in the past videos. "It is easy to determine the elo/rank of the players just by spotting how they play."
Truly, if you reached near diamond, it's probably not luck at all because the reason we are hard stuck at some specific tiers is because of our gameplay. Like what this channel always remind us, "play like a challenger to reach challenger/climb higher ranks."
Actually that game is in LAN. Plat in LAN = Bronze NA ( not actually but you get the idea ). Incredibly dishonest.
That Yi was so troll that he even swaped teams in 3:31
I thought I was the only one that saw that 😂
@@zetax7397 me too😂😂😂😂😂
Best comment ever
Hahahaha wtf
Lmaooo
I love how you guys teach us fundamental and not "how to play"
I successfully stomp my lane lvl 3 just because low elo do what they do
why doesnt this happen to me in low elo i get countered they just keep waiting for thier jngler for somefucking reason even tho they counter me and i just lose lane
@@usurpererenyeagar4587 Because you are low elo
it is just me or does Hector get more and more aggressive in his speech in recent videos
hope those hell elo is not getting to our poor Hector
It is because this is Mcbaze
In fact, this is McBaze, the aggressive one. You should watch his stream to get used to it.
ohhhhhhh mb
@@riverfu889 „the aggressive one“ 😂😂😂
It is a great tutorial for top lane. But there is one thing I've noticed. In 4:23 Riven made a huge mistake by walking away, but I think it is not because she doesn't know she can take advantage of having a huge wave, it is because she is too afraid of being ganked, you can see that she just walk away for warding. I know Riven is capable of winning trade and then walk away immediately. That mistake is mostly due to the lack of knowledge of the strength of Riven(Mobility&Burst)
same as when renekton didnt punish her at first. he just wasnt sure if he gets ganked bc riven walked up like a retard into 7 minions
@@Foatizenknechtl Yeah, and thats fun
@@kelvinlo4812 You could see Riven have her ward up (The fact that since the beginning there was no ward placed) She could place a deep ward and shove the wave into tower. She also has 2 levels advantage over Renek
@@devianalvis2178 She has a deep ward huh. Then she did make a mistake.
Fyi, she 1v2s there and gets both kills if the jungler is there. While it id true that nocturne is there, and renemton has red buff, riven has two levels on renekton and a huge minion wave. I do believe it is likely that she was scared, but she didnt need to be scared cuz if the jungler ganked, its a double kill
machups ARE relevant on low elo because both are low elo and both do fundamental mistakes, and thus, the advantage that one champion has over another stays the same. You can beat your counter if you play better than him, but the matchups are still relevant. If you are at the same skill and knowledge of the enemy, playing darius vs yasuo will always give darius the win.
Depends on what defines the counter matchup. If it's due to fundamental damage types/core mechanics, sure. If it's more nuanced, like popping specific ability combo's which can dodge skill shots (and which would need to be accounted for with player skill floor) , for example, then it would be negligible.
Watching these "low ELO" games makes me realize I fight alot of smurfs 🥴
@@sojournermathys or maybe you are not that good
You probably don't
@@sojournermathys honestly you are probably not playing against Smurfs
There isnt that many smurf
@@apmaz6112 never really said I was good, just low plat, but the smurfs are as clear as day, lvl 30-100 who hard carries and sometimes with a jg duo who camps top side and uses rift to dive you.
To the delusionals saying "but __ matchup is unplayable! There's no way you can win ___"
No, that is a lacking on your part (assuming you are in low elo)
There is a video on this channel where they pick yuumi top and win lane, there's no excuse in low elo to lose lane other than MISTAKES.
Drop the ego.
I watched another vid when they picked Yummi into a Lucian mid and somehow still win
Okay but in my defense, 90% of my damage comes from autos and this fucking teemo saves his Q specifically for that
yeah, that was a amazing video to watch tbh
The entire idea is that you can win a counter matchup if u r better than the enemy, aka smurfing. The Yuumi video has a challenger playing Yuumi vs a gold Volibear.
If u r a gold player playing in gold elo, you are not better than the enemy. If u think just because a challenger player smashed some gold players that counters don't matter, u r the delusional one.
TLDR: Counter matchups are MOSTLY hard if u and your enemy equally good or bad regardless of rank.
Respectfully:
YORICK MAIN: I would like you to play Yorick VS an Irelia and say counter pick won't matter.
Every Irelia dumpsters me from point A to Point ZeeZee!!
Unless you're Diamond or above.... You can win the matchup with enough practice.
@@ShauryaRaikkonen this is total BS and u never tried that before. This one of the matchups that if a player plays with their feet, they will still win it. Stop parroting everything you hear because that won't make u look more smart.
@@ShauryaRaikkonen BTW if this challenger Mcbaze guy wins with Yorick vs Irelia matchup in D4, I will quit this game for good.
@@mohamadzakaria96 Dude, to a diamond player, a silver player does look like he's playing with his feet. Not parroting, it's the reality low elo morons will refuse to accept and they always remain low elo because of this. Also did I not say Diamond and above for high elo? Or are you also trying to read comments with your feet?
@@ShauryaRaikkonen I will simplify my comment to require only 2 braincells to understand and then I will wait to see if u can justify your comment.
Diamond 4 to a challenger player is like silver to a Plat player. My idea is that some matchups are unplayable even with this large of a skill gap. And no diamond 4 is not high elo. It's mid elo where people have good game knowledge and solid fundamentals but don't excute very well compared to actual high elo players.
Your statement is straight up BS. U have no idea what u r talking about regardless if u r parroting the guy or u decided to come up with some random BS of your own doesn't matter.
To make it extra simple for you to understand, take the Darius vs Maokai matchup as an example, assuming both jungler decide to play Bot side. In Bronze, both players would walk up and randomly fight. Darius will win and kill Maokai over and over because he is the stronger 1v1 champion here and that's it. Same matchup in Diamond 2, both players know how things go if they fight. Maokai will step back and respect the all in threat, while Darius will deny CS, slow push 3 waves, recall, come back and perma freez on Maokai for 15 mins. Darius ends up with 100 CS diff at 15 mins.
Now not all matchups go like this because this is a turbo hard lane, but the idea stands that counters matter when both players are equally good or bad at the champion.
Visit the philippine server and you'll automatically have a compilation of low elo plays, not sure but i guarantee it
Yeah I remember when my Urgot top was getting solo Kill by a Sona, and I do not even know how that happened
At the time Sona ans Soraka top were meta they were terrifying. I played Soraka top 2 times including 1 time vs GP and solo killed him 3 times. I hope that meta is never back again.
@@mohamadzakaria96 The darkest days of TOPlane
I used to play soraka top in s9 as i was bored and trying different shits. I legit 1v2 trundle and rengar (with the help of few tower shots) as soraka top building sup. Trundle had no chance at all. I poke him to deatb and when he goes in to q and auto few times, i just hit q and heal his dmg :D
I love how garen being counterpicked by ranged champions is never in these type of video's.
It’s because renekton vs riven is playable even though it’s hard. Whereas playing Garen vs a vayne and not dodging in champ select makes you an idiot.
@@thegrandarmy3724 i think it depends on the way Vayne and both jglers play? I mean theoretically if Garen surrenders the lane after the first 5 mins and beg his jg to gank then there'd still hope?
@@ow3nmahp935 I never get ganks against a ranged matchup sadly
They have a melee into ranged video somewhere. Essentially it's about hitting level three and not taking poke before that.
@@ow3nmahp935 no the lane is literally unplayable, unless garen gets a flash cheese kill. jungle doesn't matter if both junglers are somewhat similar in skill
Renekton looking good in the thumbnail
"only fundamentals matter" proceeds to talk about two very specific match ups only in top lane (misleading title), and assumes the matchup between champions is a fundamental as well as knowing all their abilities and their cooldowns. i play league for about 3 months now and i dont know what all the champions do/how all the mechanics work. This is not very helpful advice to improve tbh, its just a "know your stuff" advertise without real content. The real message should probably be "learn your champion and know the relevant matchups" and not a comparison without a conclusion why counterpicks dont matter. Also what is fundamental?
Knowing matchups is a part of fundamentals
They only talks about match up in top bc that's where match-up count the most, and those 2 match up are know to be really free
And fundamentals probably is mechanics, wave management, trading, etc
I'm a Thresh main and have no qualms about locking in Thresh into Morgana, because I've learned that low-elo Morganas have no idea how to use their advantage.
Well yes but actualy no. When both players suck in low elo and don’t know how to play like a challenger the better matchup wins most of the time.
No shit sherlock. The point of literally the educational video is to show you that it's your league knowledge, not the matchup that is to blame for you losing.
@@ShauryaRaikkonen but if u need to be better than the enemy to win a counter matchup, then counters r actually relevant unlike what Mcbaze said here.
@@mohamadzakaria96 Stay hardstuck and keep fuming... Not interested in your sad low elo opinions when there's a statistically better player than you telling me otherwise.
@@ShauryaRaikkonen you hope to be climbing like me lol. Keep parroting mcbaze and one day u may win your D4 promo.
Got it, gonna pick Veigar into Zed 👍
Jax is real Rioter?
i Love that u made that clear : "Oh that Riven doesn't play like a plat player she makes trash mistakes"
Yes , Watching a replying when u'r chilling and some dude explaining every mistake ofc u'r gonna be like Duuh this is obvious .
but being in the game itself with no one telling u the mistakes and u being in the game no watching is a whole different thing .
(if u watched your reply after a few weeks or so realize u'r doing even more mistakes)
So this may just be Caitlyn knowledge coming out, but I feel that picking Vayne into Caitlyn is suicide. At least as Caitlyn it is too easy to abuse the Vayne into being unable to farm, and then killing them when they try.
it depends also on supports, you can easily play around as vayne vs cait if your supp is for example senna and enemy is soraka.
Bot lane isn't just the ADC in a vacuum, it's 80% reliant on the support matchup. There's no way you get to bully a Vayne/Alistar as Caitlyn/Soraka post level 2, for example. I know Soraka is a really extreme example, because there are things like Xerath, Morgana etc. that are a bit special, but the point is that you can't just look at the ADC matchup and think that you've won. If you've watched enough of SC you'd know that the engage support likes to stay healthy at level 1 to attempt an all in at level 2. You essentially have to swap from playing as the aggressor to the biggest pussy if you don't hit level 2 with at least a 2-3 minion lead before crashing it into tower. If you don't manage to crash the second wave fast enough, you've now gifted the opponent a freeze and you're yourself zoned off the wave as you're now in enemy territory. If your opponent knows this, they will try their hardest to thin it out and keep it there due to the engage pressure.
If your opponent doesn't realise this, then they won't attempt to freeze, which is exactly what you want. Let the wave crash and push back, take CS safely and attempt a freeze yourself. Engage supports also generally have relic shield which means that they can help their ADC thin the wave much faster if they're paying attention. However, you can't always bank on your opponent not knowing the correct play, but instead need to be aware of the correct play, recognising when your opponent isn't making the correct play and punishing accordingly. How many times have you played bot lane against a Leona/Pyke/Thresh as/with a mage/healing support and thinking "holy shit I can't even walk up"? When that happens, a lot of people don't sit back and soak exp, they get impatient and try to make some sort of "play", die, then blame anyone but themselves. There are certain matchups whereby if you ever get to go even in CS you've already won the lane because your opponent isn't punishing you at all, such as Vayne/Sona into Draven/Leona. Sometimes, it's even fine to be down 20-30 CS if it means you stay even in levels.
@@st0rmbreaK. From my experience, a Vayne can not play the game until I screw up. However if that Vayne were Lucian she has a hundred options. If that Vayne were Xayah she would have a hundred options. If that Caitlyn were jinx, Vayne would have a hundred options. The Caitlyn matchup is the only one I feel is that degree of unplayable. Leona gives some options that alistar can not, but even so if you walk into lane knowing that as the Caitlyn you can really just abuse the Vayne and keep her behind.
@@NothingSerious...2 in my experience I have not seen this borne out, even in that lane specifically. As I said it may just be my knowledge as a Caitlyn in that matchup being shown but, I find Vayne struggles to be relevant while Caitlyn can just accelerate through her mid game trough off of the lane
@@0Bonaparte From my own experience, I think Caitlyn accelerates mainly due to her superior waveclear, not necessarily only because of her range advantage. I'm not going to say range advantage isn't significant because that would be silly, but I don't think that the only option Vayne has is to just roll over and die. I find that going Doran's Shield + an early Vamp Sceptre helps if deemed necessary. If the opponent's support is a Morgana, walking into her pool to take 1 tick of 25 damage lets the Shield's regen kick in and I get to stay healthy for almost free.
I lean towards Vayne because she has more agency with her ult + Q. Caitlyn is a skillshot reliant champion meaning that most of her damage buttons can be dodged. Vayne's trading pattern of Auto-Q-Auto does a lot of damage when coupled with PTA (or occasionally Auto-Q-E) and can't be dodged outside of getting out of range; whereas Caitlyn's Q and E can be dodged and Headshot can't. Throw in a Kraken proc and that's easily 50% of any ADC's HP. If both sides are to trade Flash for Flash, Heal for Heal or even Exhaust for Exhaust, I don't really see how Caitlyn comes out on top unless Vayne severely misplays by say, tumbling onto a trap and/or not dodging Caitlyn E.
For matchup perspective: I play both champions, and lvl 1 if the renekton takes q before walking into the lane they're trolling. Riven does win the lvl 1 super hard so the only way renekton can survive that trade is with w, dont level any ability till you see how your opponent is playing. If you know riven is hiding in the bush, respect that and hold your ability point till she moves out. If she walks towards to cheese lvl 1 then take w its your way out. If she's passive and lets you auto wave then you take q and poke her like the video shows. A lot of other matchups play like this too. You can see in the master tier matchup the renekton holds his point till he can safely acquire the bush and auto minions.
Mcbaze casually stomping a Riot employee to make his guide. :)
I tend to roll my eyes at videos with titles like this but this was explained well and the stress on fundamentals changed my mind.
Proof: Some challenger player beats everyone in low elo.
Ah, yes. So to be good in Low Elo, just be a Challenger smurf so matchups don't matter. Thank you so much.
Exactly this.
I mean logically you wont climb unless you are playing at a higher level than your elo
@@popcornyumm if you play like a plat and you're in gold its much harder to climb than it is for a challenger player to climb out of gold. nobody would be watching this video if they played like a challenger player
lol i just realized you played against a Riot employee, Riot HansAxel
Thank you for all the informative videos! What i currently struggle with is how to create my own gameplan in lane for each matchup ...
I play in garena and literally no one walks up level 1 againts a level 2. Say what you want to say but even in gold the mechanics and match up knowledge is better than what that plat riven did. And people actually save their abillities properly so that if there is a counter match up if you ingage you lose but if you dont ingage then the enemy can just do whatever. The only one that is quite bad is wave management and some teamfight decision making. But hey keep up the good work with the guides.
I can promise u I see ppl disrespecting having horrible mechanics and not knowing match-up at all in that elo
I love how u trying to point out that favored matchups not necessarily determine who wins a lane by showing in 2 of 3 examples the favored side actually winning the lane. Great editorial choice there!
Hey about what u said level 1 is incorrect, A good Renekton starts W vs riven and riven will always lose the trade.
im not even plat and i know riven wins the lvl 1 fight (due to watching adrian )
so me being lower elo i knew they both made husge mistakes
i would really like to see a jax vs singed or teemo
or morde vs jax
jax vs garen
all that means is matchup knowledge isnt the reason youre low elo, youre missing some other aspects of the game
@@filskm518 yep im just rly bad LOL
plus dont play the game much anymore
I learned it hard way but luckly it was in normals
Funny how I easily found that Riven was favored LV1 but when I played this MU, I shit my pants just thinking "avoid that op counter"
Renekton is kinda weak until level 3 lmao
That title is like saying Yi cannot dominate all mages players at low elo.
Skillcapped teaches you how to prevent that by taking good decisions in lane
Matchups don't matter when you are way higher skill level than your opponent. Otherwise they do. The idea that we know the fundamentals and we'll be fine is fair, but you don't learn every single matchup which is favoured when powerspikes favour what champs etc without alot of time playing the champ. People are in low elo because they don't know these things and you don't just learn it overnight by watching a high elo player excute these against lowbies.
Matchups and counter picking does of course matter in low elo. Maybe not as much but you cannot argue that people just always play their matchup wrong. Even if they play the matchup correct in 10% of the cases the matchup will impact the outcome. And there are some ridiculous hard counters when played optimal (i.e. play Nilah/Teemo into any auto attack based bot lane.)
This video is basically stating, if you play well more times than not, you will win even when "counter picked" don't play to win, play to play correctly.
Playing to win relies on the enemy being silly.
Playing to play correctly means even if you get a Grandmaster smuf, you won't be bullied into a 0/6/0 by 8 minutes type of game.
personally if ur playstyle fits counter picking even in low elo you have to work hard for it... i've tried this playstyle before and the ammount of champs and info you need to learn is insane... because counter picking is not always guarantee even in high elo because match ups are always volatile
Matchups don't matter as long as you're smurfing!
thats literally the point xD, if you're better than ur opponent you can always win lane
Exactly this. People here r impressed that a challenger guy is beating a gold Jax with Irelia.
@@mohamadzakaria96 it seems logic that a gold player VS a gold player will lose a losing match-up u can't climb if you are at ur elo
@@baptistecochennec5956 that's true, but not really the point. If u r playing at a pkat 2 level with a plat 4 rank, you should expect to slowly climb. In some matchups that slight skill diff won't be enough for you to win some lanes. You will still overall climb, but there r games where u will get stomped by worse players just because of lane matchup.
@@mohamadzakaria96 yeah but the point is that u should never just go '' I can't win my lane ff15 '' when u see the match-up look at the riven renk they show I'm pretty sure if the riven didn't shit himself she kill the renek lvl 1 and can win the lane it happen a lot in low elo to win losing match-up just bc ur opponent does something super wrong bc they think they are going to instawin
I don’t agree with the video at all, but appreciate the content and effort anyhow
yorik vs irelia is completely unplayable?
irelia doesnt one shot his ghouls till like mid-late game and late game irelia falls off
Not true. If yorick can get his walkers up and hit her with e, he wins level 2 as the walkers plus minion wave should out damage irelia
@@TsunKnight like irelia would let him q the minions, now she can get full passive from 3 minions only wich technically make her win every single fight lvl 1 and she always has the push advantage.
That is technically the most unplayable match up yes, even skillcapped has stated it, but for it to be unplayable it still requires knowledge/skill why it is so, in low elo it is still just as coinflip as other match ups :D
Matchups don't matter only if one player is higher elo than the other. If both players are high elo then the matchup works one way, if they're both low elo that same matchup can go the other way arround since neither player can punish properly.
I know that most of the player base are in gold and below, but I would like to see one of these guides in diamond for change. The thing is that most of people in diamond have solid fundamentals and matchup knowledge so I'm very unlikely to play vs someone who doesn't know if their champion has a better level 1 or not.
This riven had riven in their nickname so proboably mains riven which is hilarious
I liked that part where u showed Riotgames employe on jax hes place :D
I mean, matchups do still matter, but for different reasons, and NO WHERE NEAR AS MUCH in low elo as in high elo. In low elo you have the potential to outplayb any matchup given you are good enough, and it won't be based on "if you are lucky and they missplay". I had this argument with some friends, and in case anyone is in denial, that is the truth of it, and what people mean when tehy say taht matchups don't matter in low elo.
How do i win with ahri against yasou he allways has shield when i q
autoattack to get his shield then wait till its down then q
ahri is trash tho
At level 1 on start, auto him when he goes for his first CS then keep poking with Q whenever he goes for the cs to avoid taking minion aggro till it's ready to auto him again. Force him to take the poke or lose the CS.
If you can keep him around half HP, a full E-Q-W+electrocute+Ignite will kill him which is also a time you can go for an E+Flash as soon you you disable his passive again.
I've personally made a Talon rage quit just by doing that really.
Auto to make his shield broke
Yall keep saying match-ups dont get played properly but EuW gold-plat one tricks always abuse you in their counter matchups. They have lane phase down. You either have to actually counter pick them and play it well, or hope for good teammates
Yeah you point it out, heres the thing euw and na challanger is basically the same. Many na challangers have proven it by climbing up the ladder, but its the lower elos that show clear differences, plat becomes dia, gold becomes plat, etc
Pin/love this comment guys, so everyone can see it: this is the kind of videos we really need for climbing and improving, explaining low elo vs high elo (same) matchups is extremely helpful, since the issue with making a low elo smurfing video is that the opponent plays differently sometimes (for example in the video the opponent is aggro, but in the game he isn't), and low elo players dont know how to react in a scenario they didnt see in the video. Ty Skill Capped, hope to see more of these :)
Ty I will now counter pick my own champion
Yeah I figured counters don't work in low elo when I constantly see teemo/Quinn/vayne go 1/10 vs Champs like Darius, renek, Nasus
This is why I love and hate being stuck in low elo. People get so mad when they see my ezreal top pick, then their jaw hits the floor when they see how big he gets. And with that weird little island thing up there, he’s practically gank-proof as long as his E is up or close to being up. Plus, with tanks not being great meta picks this season, I don’t know why more people don’t spam ranged tops. Imo, the most annoying tops are heavy mele with a decent ranged attack because they can farm and harass with range, and they still get good all-in potential.
3:32 both jg on the same team :)
For me as low elo player. My biggest problem isnt lane (as i win lane almost every time) but teamfights are the problem.
Pretty informative video!
x1.25 audio speed?
If you're way better than the players you are up against counters don't matter. But if you're not, then it matters.
Oh especially in low elo, people don't know matchups and just trade every time even if the matchup is horrible and just feed
I can almost hear this riven say "GG jgl diff, no ganks for me and enemy jgl ganks top". Anyway, loved the vid for pointing out general mistakes so we low elo players can learn. Thanks skillcapped as always! ^_^
10:00 why didn't he just repress his E to stun?
Because you gotta dodge those autos Irelia isn't throwing out duh
NA same as EUW Kappa
I am bronze and I love these guides for top It helped me see level diffs most of the time, when to strike and when to slow push. I must thank you guys deeply for the content as without it I am not be a highly punsihing dr mundo that people never expect and need there jungler to kill. Thxs love the content and keep it up.
I swear to God. That riven renekton looks like me.
you're wrong about riven lvl1, yes she wins lvl1-2 but if and only if renekton runs conq. if the renek runs PTA with bone plating you cant walk up. aa reset of renek procs PTA and he wins all in.
my noob eyes can only see the skin diff
I still don’t even know what is count at fundamental.
Does me knowing every misplay the plat riven made as a bronze riven main prove that i dont suck like the jg diana said after her and mid fed enemy yasou 2 kills in first 3 min of the game?
The match-ups in low elo are Irelia-vent.
"I kNoW tHiS iS pLaT bUt ThAt RiVeN iS tRaSh AnD sHe'S nOt PlAyInG lIkE a PlAt PlAyEr"
"Yes she is and the blatant truth is you're making equally trash mistakes every single game you play."
Based as fuck, instant subscription 😂
This shows champs that can train with each other, what about champs that can’t trade with their counter. I play shyvana top and I can’t ever trade with a trundle top because he always wins no matter the level
This is why I hate playing top lane. I don’t know the matchups enough and if I should be the bully or the bullied. I fill when playing with friends and every time I get top I get placed against a 500K Ilaoi who perfectly knows when to trade and when not :(
The wave management is horrendous in riven vs renek first game
I dont think fundamentals can help me beat a heim as an illaoi
Can you do a macthups don't matter for bot or supp? Mainly focused on 1v2 cause the games with a good bot lane partner are easy but the "trash" players seem impossible to work with when they don't understand the fundamentals
I think the issue with levels not being "important" to the eyes of the regular player is because we don't see it's effects... Riot could fix this by showing a number on the health bar in the Hud that said "+20 HP!" or "+5 AD" every time you level up, so you have a grasp on what's happening naturally
Yeah... no. I think they've already dumbed down league enough for low-mid elo players xd
@@xallinav6026 I mean, i would love having that info at least in the champion stats, it would help me compare strenghts instead of just going "1 level higher? i think i win this"
The Jax not even using eqe to trade lmao, doesn't even try to stack his passive properly, my man doesn't need to learn the matchup, he needs to learn his champ.
You play yone against renekton in top :D
You can play yone or yasuo against any champions then you can win while rarely getting punish for your mistakes :)
@@woolf2796 yeah because yone is strong late but laning against renekton who plays ok is impossible
@@woolf2796 X to doubt but ok
@@alexturcu8768 you can win in gold with yuumi top if skilled enough.
@@CrittingOut for sureeeeee
You play kled vs fiora and tell me matchups don’t matter.
just play passive xd
5:24 "I want you to notice right off the bat how different level 1 is" - Many player's answer" I SEE IT! They have better skins".........
renek is supposed to skill w lvl 1 and take PTA in the matchup, then he has pressure lvl 1 and the lane is completely unplayable btw..
I think they could have made their point in this video with out being as black and white, The matchup is relevant but knowing the matchup is much more relevant.
why does Riven have Ziggs W hover her head at 0:40
I'm guessing the Ziggs W means that Renek's stun destroy/break Riven's shield
Try irelia vs Yorick, you will see some matchup truely Unplayable. basically because Yorick trade tool and 50% of his damage is free stack in the eye of irelia, and without using those tool Yorick can only basic attack
Or maybe play Zed vs Zigg, Yi vs Teemo, Garen vs Quinn or Mordekaiser vs Kalista
You can't just pick 2 similar laner in a somewhat skill matchup and called it COUNTER Picks DON’T MATTER... Skill matchup with disadvantage is far difference than real counter pick
what's hard about yi vs teemo? lv1 stack double strike, q him, auto him for a massive chunk. later flash auto him, dodge his blind with q, crongatulation teemo is dead. even if you fall behind early you still outscale him badly. only problem i see with the matchup is the jungler hardcamping yi because low elos have a boner for yi players.
Riven vs renek is considered a doomed match-up btw u are just using some really special match-up with champ that have special interaction(irelia VS yorick), or that doesn't belong to the same lane (yi vs teelo, kalista morde kaiser to an extend also) and what's the problem with zed and ziggs Idk the match-up and I'm curious
Isn't "doesn't belong to same lane" mean they specially pick it just to get you? anyway i just sum up some matchup that i read in the below commend for example, i mostly play juggernaut top so i only have experience with their match up
Imo counter match up with special interaction suck as Ire vs Yorick or unfair like Kalista vs Morde do point out that COUNTER Picks DO MATTER, even in the plat and bellow
@@zon7508 I mean if teemo counter yi in top and u pick yi top u are auto countering you it seems pretty stupid
And yeah match-up do count especially for those with special interactions but it's an over simplification here a lots of people in the comments are like '' this video is stupid some extremely specific match-up are absolutely doomed and u can win a losing match-up only if u are better'' when the points of the video is that for most of the match-up in low elo u can win any match-up if u are better than ur opponent
tell that to darius vs garen man
whe riven backed off lvl 4 agains lvl 3 renekton at 4:00, wasn't it reasonable since she didn't know where the enemy jg was?
Huh yea but it doesn’t matter tbh he was low and his Top side buffs we’re up. So even he did gank riven probably would’ve just killed both of them since renekton is level 2 so he’s pretty much useless
Hey, next Hector challenge for you. Have him die to the top laner, jungler, mid laner, and bot lane and still carry.
this isnt even hector
In other words: just magically know what to do all the time
2:43 yes but renekton had no ability's up so no
Gl playing vayne+leona vs ashe+xerath or ashe+lulu
Matchup does not matter.
@@dragonprof9064 yeah, poor talon
@@yau7 talon gonna get abused, sad
What about trynd vs teemo?
I have heard about this tip of "you are stronger lvl 1 so play more agressive or you are weaker lvl 1 so wait till lvl 4" but how can I know if the champ I am playing is stronger lvl 1 or weak?
Play norms, trade heavily into them. That’s the brute force way. Or, be a statistical intellectual and learn how much damage your opponents lvl 1 can do compared to yours. The riven renek game for example. Renek has 1 no fury q. Riven had 3 passive procing q’s. She wins lvl 1
Try the match-up 1 time and go like a tard, or use guides, ytb, high elo games, etc or use logic most of the times it works(ex: renek is dependant of all his ability to do damage while riven main damage ability his q, Jax bloc aa which is the main damage source of irelia early, wukong e boost his aa and makes his passive stacks faster, etc...)
Lissandra vs pantheon matchup is literally hell. I cant do a shit vs pantheon. I rism getting into his w range by trying to auto or poke as they all have similar ranges. If he get on top of me, im pretty mucb dead or cant even retaliate coz of his e. If i play passive, he pushes and roams around the map with his ult. I've never won lane vs panth as liss. Heck his q outranges my poke.
Why would yi invade if he sees he has no top prio🤔?
Because low elo. Junglers all the way up to diamond don't understand how to use prio when making aggressive decisions. As a mid laner, this happens all the time when I am pushed under tower and my jungler decides to contest scuttle without first looking at my health and my lane state.
The top laners are always clicking back when they shouldn't becuase they are afraid of the jungler?
Because Kayns randomly gank toplane level 2 /s
Its because of the skin, first riven didnt have a skin and loss to the renekton with skin, and high elo just has better skins
Counter play doesn't matter in low elo
Me : locks in rengar top vs tryndamire and get 10 kills when he walks out of tower even when he hits 6
Malph vs sylas be like. I wonder if sylas counters tahm as well
9:09
Other people makes a mistake: HERE HE MAKES A BIG MISTAKE
Skill capped makes a mistake: :D lol guys i am just a scrub haha
so riven goes into enemy jun to get ganked by yi and kayne? idk skillkappa that seems troll 2 mi
Now I wonder how many mistakes I do every game...