Was there any long-term examples of this that he showed you? I dont see why this technique would impart any sort of dwarfing. The apical dominance caused by auxins always determines central leaders. When one central leader is removed/broken/or changes, the auxins just accumulate in the remaining dominant branches and a new leader will form.
We didn’t ask Jesse if he already had done it before. It felt like he was experimenting with a new concept. And time will tell. Logically i agree, the tree might try to find s new leader and he might have to do another approach graft of a lateral branch to that new leader but this is all an experiment and i think it is a way to learn snd grow. We will sure know in a few years’ time.
So you replace the leader with its own side branch to stop the vigorous vertical growth and put the energy into the side branch growth? Is that right? Cool technique
So I need to graft a lateral branch to a leader, then after the graft heals I cut off that leader's top off...that leader branch is now connected to a lateral, and it won't grow new dominant branches, whereas if I had just cut the leader off it would have grown one or more new dominant branches? I got it right? Amazing technique! Thanks!
@@growpuravida How do you know that by doing this technique the tree wouldn’t develop another center leader? I’ve cut the center leader out of dozens and dozens of trees in order to keep small which also requires regular pruning so continuously cutting off any unwanted new growth is normal. So it wouldn’t matter if an attempt to set off another centiliter the idea is to get rid of that anyway you don’t want anything growing up through the middle of the tree. So this guys idea is foolishness why would you want something growing up in the middle of the tree? I guess everybody has their own opinion on what they like.
Seems that you misunderstood the technique and called it foolish based on your limited understanding- how convenient. Nothing will be growing in the middle of the tree - where did you get that from? The lateral branch will remain lateral, will just get much stronger from the leader’s energy (and potentially more productive). As for expressing yourself. Before calling something foolish, you need to know for sure that it doesn’t work. If you have personal experience doing this type of graft and failing, you’re more than welcome to share your experience; otherwise your conjecture is no more than just that - a conjecture, and you don’t have the right to be this dismissive and offensive. I salute people who do unusual things and experiment, instead of dismissing new things as foolishness and doing same useless things over and over just because it’s customary, like cutting the leader 6-8 times and calling it “normal”... Will watch these trees closely and report. Saludos!
Hmmm... Worth a shot, especially for trees in the hot and humid tropics that can be very difficult to keep sizeable. I'm going to try this. Thanks!
Yes a fun experiment to try. Thanks
Was there any long-term examples of this that he showed you? I dont see why this technique would impart any sort of dwarfing. The apical dominance caused by auxins always determines central leaders. When one central leader is removed/broken/or changes, the auxins just accumulate in the remaining dominant branches and a new leader will form.
We didn’t ask Jesse if he already had done it before. It felt like he was experimenting with a new concept. And time will tell. Logically i agree, the tree might try to find s new leader and he might have to do another approach graft of a lateral branch to that new leader but this is all an experiment and i think it is a way to learn snd grow. We will sure know in a few years’ time.
He approached grafted from itself? Meaning the approach graft host was its own side growing branch?
Yes
So you replace the leader with its own side branch to stop the vigorous vertical growth and put the energy into the side branch growth? Is that right? Cool technique
Yes this is correct
So I need to graft a lateral branch to a leader, then after the graft heals I cut off that leader's top off...that leader branch is now connected to a lateral, and it won't grow new dominant branches, whereas if I had just cut the leader off it would have grown one or more new dominant branches? I got it right?
Amazing technique!
Thanks!
Yes you described it well!
is there an advantage doing that over simply cutting off the main leader ?
The tree will grow another vigorous leader if you just cut it
@@growpuravida How do you know that by doing this technique the tree wouldn’t develop another center leader? I’ve cut the center leader out of dozens and dozens of trees in order to keep small which also requires regular pruning so continuously cutting off any unwanted new growth is normal. So it wouldn’t matter if an attempt to set off another centiliter the idea is to get rid of that anyway you don’t want anything growing up through the middle of the tree. So this guys idea is foolishness why would you want something growing up in the middle of the tree? I guess everybody has their own opinion on what they like.
Seems that you misunderstood the technique and called it foolish based on your limited understanding- how convenient. Nothing will be growing in the middle of the tree - where did you get that from? The lateral branch will remain lateral, will just get much stronger from the leader’s energy (and potentially more productive).
As for expressing yourself. Before calling something foolish, you need to know for sure that it doesn’t work. If you have personal experience doing this type of graft and failing, you’re more than welcome to share your experience; otherwise your conjecture is no more than just that - a conjecture, and you don’t have the right to be this dismissive and offensive.
I salute people who do unusual things and experiment, instead of dismissing new things as foolishness and doing same useless things over and over just because it’s customary, like cutting the leader 6-8 times and calling it “normal”... Will watch these trees closely and report. Saludos!
@@growpuravida Yeah because graphing that in the center is normal, right?
I don’t claim normalcy- yet another conjecture! I said i salute innovation, and i would repeat that, if you misunderstood me again.