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Inmate spars with defense attorney
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 มิ.ย. 2018
- Defense attorney Jonathan Schildgen cross-examines inmate Daren Eckford during a hearing for Quinn James at the Kent County Courthouse on Friday, June 8, 2018. James, who is a former Kentwood Schools worker, is facing trial for raping a 16-year-old Kentwood girl, Mujey Dumbuya, who was found dead in Kalamazoo.
Don't ask infantile questions man, loved seeing even the judge smile at that one
He should've been reprimanded. A witness is supposed to simply answer questions, not insult the attorney. The question may seem "obvious" to the witness, but this is a trial, and it needs to go on the record. If you've ever watched trials before, you'd know that a ton of basic questions are asked of witnesses. The only infantile one here is the witness.
@@falcon759 Everyone, including you, knew that the prosecutor was purposefully patronizing the witness and thats why he was not reprimanded by the judge. Silver spoon had a little power trip and clearly the judge had enough of it, and I guarantee she doesn't like the price either. Once she saw that the witness was intelligent enough to go back at him in a way that was still respectful to the courtroom, she knew the fun was about to begin and let it happen. Just because they are on 2 different sides of the criminal system at rhat moment, doesn't make prosecutor's antics right or acceptable.
@@mrheath4928 No, sir. He wasn't reprimanded by the judge because she's not doing her job. That witness was NOT being respectful to anyone, and in fact when he made that smart-mouth answer, the attorney hadn't even finished the question - he interrupted him. The judge should have instructed him to simply answer the questions instead of insulting the attorney's line of questioning. The witness was completely out of line, and you seriously look foolish for calling him "intelligent" and "respectful" here.
@@falcon759 LOL ok...
@@mrheath4928 Yeah, you're typing that to make it appear what I said is somehow laughable/foolish/nonsensical, when my comment makes perfect sense. Typical troll move from someone who has no rational reply.
"You don't get to decide."
"I just did, man. I just did(laughing)."
An inmate Matlock.
24 years in prison? He doesn't give a damn. He got nothing to lose.
Archimedes Blackhearr true
Didn’t hear that last part did ya? Where he said “you only have 12 months left.. and that only happened after you testified against mr ___..”
dude snitched and is going home for doing it 😉
@@Halfstep2024 word they're dumb
The way he said 24 like it was nothing
Idiot attorney
That’s how you talk/answer when you have absolutely nothing to lose.
Samuel L Jackson, he's in everthing.
So is Gary Glitter.
Bruh....Thinking the saaaameame thing....I
Doesnt look or sound like him
Everything*
lmao! funniest comment of the week for me!
NEITHER IS THIS A SPAR OR IS THAT A DEFENSE ATTORNEY
right but it's alright
The lawyer is someone else's defense atty
@Dillon Chappell, your response is as ignorant as your profile pic... The guy on the stand is a witness and being questioned by a defendant's attorney
OK bootlicker
I'm not the one who supports jackboots that enforce every law on the books. Mind you that these laws were written by politicians, often referred to as crooks, thieves and liars....
This is an example of how NOT to cross-examine a hostile witness.
Retired lawyer/retired judge here, I agree.
I'm not even sure I would call him hostile
Dont ask no infantile questions... Think about the choices you're making. LMAO
The inmate telling a free person to think about their choices ..... lol
@@carshenaeunicebaker1964 He's had a lot more time to think about real shit than that silly lawyer :)
This is not his defense attorney. This attorney sounds like a little kid... "he's answering questions with other questions , wahhh"
Obviously dude must of turned state on someone and is now getting released, this must be that someone's attorney. And that someone is in hot water if that articulate inmate had info on him, and that bozo attorney is defending him.
I guess they didn’t have time to prepare for his testimony. Or, the imbecile defendant can’t tell the difference between a prosecutor and his defense lawyer.
@@DrummerJacob Is that why he is a free man with a stable job living in a mansion, while the attorney is just a miserable inmate that is disrespected and told what to do by CO’s?
When he said "I just did" I laughed at that. He was right, he did decide, hahaha!
Yeah, but only because the lawyer let him. If he was actually all there, instead of just physically present, he could've just turned to the judge and went: "You honor, please instruct the witness to answer." And she almost certainly would've done so - she allowed the question "Did you state, you WOULD have murdered them for the right amout of money?", so why would she not allow the question "What is that amount?" Lazy examination...
@@QemeH the guy is right tho, why should it matter? $5 or $5,000,000,000 it's still murder.
@@Yfrboy The lawyer is trying to establish that the motive was greed (rather than envious rage or something). That's a way to get a first degree over a second degree.
@@QemeH he already said "for the right amount" why would that amount matter?
I see it as the lawyers way of saying how little life was worth to the guy....if he would have said, "$250" it would mean he was willing on killing for $250, which might shock some people more than if he had said $100,000.
(I think the guy was right not to answer as money's worth is subjective.... To a rich person $10,000 is not a lot whereas to a homeless guy that's a fortune.)
@@Yfrboy You're arguing ethics, I'm arguing law...
Your capacity as a lawyer is a laughing matter. HA
when i read the title i thought by spar they meant punching eachother, i was wrong
Naim Hussain #CLICKSTERBATING
Verbal sparring
Your not alone !?
That would've been mad dope
There is such a thing as verbal sparring.
How any juror believes a jailhouse snitch is beyond me.
At 00:32 the judge smiles at his response, even she knows it was a stupid question. Love it!😂
the judge is a coward who did not control the witness/courtroom.
No, not a stupid question at all and it's sad that you would "love" such poor behavior of a judge. You can't just assume things in a trial. The point of a cross-examination is to ask questions of the witness and get answers.
I didn’t see a smile at all
@@andrewcross8244 I didn't either 😂
Thought he was defending himself until I heard the word
“objection” 🙄
he is witness,it was defendant lawyer who objected.
Just stamp your little form sonny, and stop wasting my time.
Nice reference LOL
As you wish Morgan Freeman.
Maybe it's because I'm Irish.
@@mikekopf1173 Because to tell you truth,I don't really give a dam.
One of the greatest things I’ve ever read.
"I just did man, I just did" 😂
Why is Samuel L. Jackson being questioned by this lawyer? I guess Pulp Fiction and Jackie Brown were not pretend movies after all.
@@freddiearmstrong121 doesnt look or sound like samuel l
That’s gangster af this dude
That wasnt sparring, that inmate owned the prosecutor 🤣😂
The judge smiling when he said don't all me any infantile questions.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
If I ever get called to testify, when the bailiff asks me if I swear to tell truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, I'm going to say no. That way I can't get charged with perjury.
0:32 i had the same smile on my face as the judge when i heard that question.
She smiled at his response.
"Ever been in trouble in the past 24 years"
Ask that to most folk never in prison, and they'll be a slightly evasive. :D
he should've replied, you ever had a speeding fine in 24 years or less of driving?
I think this man has been to court more then that attorney! Slick suits dont make you a smart man.
He had to let him know at the end... you a snitch right? Right. Lol
This must be the lawyer’s first trial 🤦🏽♀️
When you have nothing to lose, is when you can truly be yourself. Thats the real freedom.
America's prisons are full with people who got nothing to lose...Thats why they are so violent, also for the people who work in them...you guys never hear " when you treat people like animals, they act like animals" ? Your justice system is nothing but a joke..it's that simple..
No. That is an illusory freedom. Prisoners and unhoused people are not free. Prisoners are told what to do, how to do it, and where to do it. Unhoused people have to get enough money each day to eat or face going to bed hungry. Sound free to you? Yeah, both groups of people can poop their pants everyday in that level of freedom if they want. They can rip their pants off and call themselves the King of England too! But the prisoner will be sent to solitary. The unhoused person will probably have found it more difficult to get the money needed to purchase a sandwich in that attire... So, there is no true, unadulterated freedom. There is only the illusion of pure freedom.
If anybody missed this lawyers last statement, he basically put a hit on this mans head. He literally asked if his testimony granted him lesser of a sentence. He called him out as a "snitch" which in american prison is a death sentence.
It happens literally all the time. This man did 24 years and has zero chance of receiving any retribution from “snitching”. Js
@@r.c.l2569 funny thing is, most people only care when the snitch is weaker than them. I’m not talking physical size. If they know that someone is a killer, then they will not try him. Especially 24 years. Not only that, snitching goes on *ALL THE TIME IN JAIL!* that’s how most people stay in the county, or have good lawyers. Even in state prison and federal, people snitch all the time, and for no reason sometimes.
i still dont get it. can you elaborate?
@@r.c.l2569 not only that, most people don’t do anything to snitches UNLESS it affects them.
@@r.c.l2569 He was recently convicted in this matter he got life with no parole plus 20-30 for the rape. He is never getting out.
Spar definition:
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you spar with someone, you exchange light blows - either literally by punching each other, or figuratively by exchanging verbal blows. If you box, you might spar with an opponent at the gym while you're training. You don't strike too hard - it's just practice.
Wow, that guy is a very good Samuel Jackson impersonator!
where did he buy his law degree?
he borrowed It from Google U
Trump university
Cracker Jack box
@@markharrison6498 always that one beta out there making things political.
@@RebelGaming4U the fact that trump university is corrupt and a shite uni has nothing to do with politics
The judge smiling at :33 is the best part of the video
If you think that you need your head examined. Judge is allowing the witness to be a clown
I don’t see any wrongdoing on the witnesses part. It’s an adversarial relationship. It’s okay for a witness to not cooperate with a questioning attorney. The goal is to make the attorney work hard in gathering testimony, and to disrupt his strategy. Cooperation in ones annihilation is not mandatory.
It's actually the attorney's job to formulate the questions in such a way as to minimize the latitude the witness has to go afield and not answer the question directly. If you give a convict an opening, he's for damn sure going to take it - that's what they do all day long in prison.
Honestly it looks like this man had spent stone time reading up on law. He knows the right answers and when he can push back without getting into trouble.
Even knew he didnt have to answer about what someone else saw
Wrong he was a hostile witness and the judge is a joke for letting him act that way. A real judge will correct it
This was his defense counsel.
@@usa5439 It’s a lawyer’s job to be able to know what kind of witness you’re dealing with some are supportive to your case some are neutral some are hostile. This witness was hostile yes, but that’s when a smart lawyer asks the right questions to get the right answers. That’s the difference between getting ahead of the game vs chasing behind it.
This is what kind of lawyer you get when they ask you if you need a free court appointed lawyer. You gotta $$ PAY $$ for the good lawyers.....
This judge is a joke. No control in the courtroom, smiling at this obviously uncooperative witnesss' attitude which should have put him in. contempt. He is basically allowed to decide which questions he'll answer and can also berate the lawyer - all with no problem with this judge. No wonder they're a dime a dozen and are replaced often.
Most are
"Just like you, man. I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase."
Seems this guy is in no position to be arrogant.
“Do you think it’s a laughing matter?” Bruh we’re was the inmates lawyer on that one lol
I loved when the judge asked if the inmate ever received a misconduct in 24 years in prison, lol! "Don't ask me no infantile question." Hahaha!
Who is that attorney sposed to be defending?? That inmate is being contemptuous of the court a lot, why is not that judge slamming him for that.
Seems like that lawyer doesn't like to do his homework
This was Lame. 2:25 Seconds I will never get back in my life.
Yo mamma lamr
Martin De Los santos Must be you in the video you lame
Wake up 2 minutes and 25 seconds earlier tomorrow.
The judge shouldn't have allowed this exchange
I want the inmate as my defense attorney
The real crime is that sandal and sock combination on the far table.
The sandal/sock combo was lit in the nineties.
Do you mean prosecuting attorney? Doubt he would be “sparring” with his own attorney
You do realize a prosecuting attorney is still an attorney, right?
@@AllAmericanGuy01 You do realise the title says "defense attorney" right?
@@Neverod8doreveN No
@@AllAmericanGuy01To be fair, the original commenter assumes the inmate is the defendant. Which is incorrect. Read the description as well as the title. ;)
AllAmericanGuy01 go back to sleep lol
That's good...
he got him to admit that he lied in a court .
and that he had a reduced sentence after he gave information on a different person
That's about all he got him to do lol! Sorry, but he was no match for that dude lol!
What his defense lawyer is saying: You're guilty. Period. Bring him back to jail for the rest of his life. In solitary confinement.
Awee I thought the judge was going to let them throw hands.. Shit if they both agreed😂
Good job on the stand.
Seems like the inmate is a prosecution witness providing testimony against the defendant possibly in exchange for leniency.
This is not a defense attorney cross-examining him. He wouldn't be arguing with his own client.
The judge is a laughing matter for this to occur in her courtroom
leading the witness almost every time. great lawyer as well as speculation and every other thing.
Witnesses can be asked leading questions if the judge finds them to be hostile, and during cross-examinations, witnesses are assumed to be hostile. (Otherwise the other attorney would have objected unless they knew the question wasn't going to damage their case.)
Hes not laughing like Haha hes laughing at the ridiculousness of what Counsel is saying
@Jill and Soph Hobes I’m looking at this like where is he going with this, even the judge was like what the fuck is this shit here
But the man is still guilty
Why is he sparring with his lawyer,don't you mean the district attorney
The man isnt the suspect on trial, hes a witness for the prosecution against the suspect. You gotta read the discription.
Yeah he snitched on someone.
Dang man, I've never been to Law School, but from just having watched Law and Order most of my life, I'd make a better attorney than this clown.
I think it’s hilarious when an inmate has more law knowledge than a State Attorney.
this dude raped a 16 year old, nice sticking up for him
Misleading title. I expected a sparring match.
It’s clear who the smartest one in the room is.
Arms folded with one hand up on his face = embarrassment alert.
The judge must have enjoyed this 😂😂😂
Pretty upitty for a criminal. Obviously needs to be broken.
🤨
Dude.... I mean the guy was funny and all, but that Judge has no control over the courtroom.
She should be fired! Let’s find her name and remove her from civil service.
I was waiting for them to square up and start throwing punches...
Per the description, the hearing is not for the person on the stand in this video.
the american court system is a joke
The court system is fine, you are just not intelligent enough to understand it.
@@highlanderneal6509 "You're just not intelligent enough to understand it". Says the guy who can't speak for all the discrepancies on the part of our faulty judicially system and all the people falsely imprisoned. Imbecile.
@Sir Tristan
Sir trash I like to lecture you in all the nonsense that goen on in our court system but I'll be to much your narrow mind to understand... please take care
benchmstr so I have to leave my country to know how corrupt it is? Your a fucking moron and that’s blatantly obvious...... our entire government is corrupt from the top down....I don’t need to go somewhere else to realize this...... and if your inferring that America’s system isn’t as bad as other countries.... well I don’t give a fuck about other countries
Eko Flo what court system is better ? And how is it a joke
Judge has no control of her courtroom. Allowing the witness to take control.
How the hell is this a spar...?
I’d just go to jail and plead guilty before this “lawyer” represents me. To make matters worse, he’s probably the DA!!!
Cesar B 😂😂😂😂
Did you bother to read the description? Didn’t think so
Who expected actual “Sparing”?
🧐
No one. Some might have been expecting sparring however.
I expected verbal sparing and I barely got that... idc who’s wrong or right until I see all the evidence this is pretty clear cut why can’t I get the evidence!?!?! It would really help law enforcement to make it all public
He knew the law better than the lawyer
Weak judge
"Spars" is a pretty strong word
The judge seems to have become beloved with just a little smirk.
That inmate is making the attorney look stupid
Doesn't matter when you have nothing to lose.
He also made the mistake of asking non open ended questions which implies one answer.
Samuel L. Jackson's son?
Why is the judge allowing this disrespect to continue
Because the lawyer is an idiot.
The judge isn’t obligated to force a witness to respect an attorney. That’s why.
So basically he got 25 years for SNITCHING.
It's not called snitching anymore its called tekashi 69'ing or 69'ing for short.
And still NO respect. He may get out in 12 months but bet he goes back in within 6 months!
OBJECTION!!!!
Great choice of words for the tittle. Not even mad
Was rooting for the inmate.
@southern daze hey dipshit, every person that has been placed on the registry, convicted or accused are not always guilty or bad people. How do you know it was a pedophile case anyway? Was he touching children sexually that were under 13? That is the only way a person could be a pedophile, is for 13 and younger, pedophilia is the sexual desire for pre pubescent children!!!
22mrranger ur right so when u see or meet someone that is registered just assume they’re not guilty
@@craigsejda7157 take a buddy of mine, ex wife told the cops he touched the 2 kids, then he is arrested, they do an investigation after his arrest, doesnt make sense does it. They questioned the kids, they say dad never touched them, no evidence of any sexual assault or even activity on either one, then, he spends a year in jail, he goes to trial with no evidence against him and everything against the ex wife and the prosecution. He is convicted of his charges all off of a story, then had to register, looses his kids, custody, and job. He looses everything, then 6 years later, after he did 3 in prison the rest on parole, the guy the ex wife was dating, had gotten drunk with the ex wife, and she admitted to him she lied and made it all up for money and to ruin his life. He recorded her 5 times admitting to it all and sleeping with the judge to get it to happen her way. The boyfriend takes it to my buddy, they take it to his lawyer, they file a lawsuit and the proper paperwork for an appeal, and wrongful suit. Takes 3 years, he wins big, he gets his record cleared, and she has to pay, and lost custody of both kids, and spent the next 4 years in prison, the judge is removed, imprisoned for 10, which he is currently still in federal prison in Leavenworth. Even with the win, and the clearing of his record, my best friend still lost everything, and his reputation, and his life for to long for lies. So when it comes to everyone on the registry i dont believe the case until i know the truth. My friend was innocent, and was wrongly convicted, it happens to often, there is others that pee on the side of the road, and get put on there, you wanna tell me they're some kind of dangerous criminal for releasing urine?
22mrranger i understand flaws in the legal system, my father spent a lot of time due to some bullshit. However, when it comes to raping someone or molesting kids i have no sympathy. Are there cases where people innocent are found guilty? Yes. Is that the case usually? No. Id say almost all of the child molesters that are incarcerated are guilty. And the fact that u are sitting here defending every child molester because your friend got “wrongly” convicted of molesting his kids which he probably did. U sound ignorant. U must not have kids? If u do...sheeeeeeesh. Get a clue, people like this get killed in prison for a reason
22mrranger and i just reread ur comment and i wish i didnt because its so stupid. So ur telling me that if u touch a 14 and ur 35 that not a pedophile and not molestation?? Basically what ur saying is that 13 yr old children can give consent to sex to adults
😐waiting for the sparing....⏳............ still waiting🤨
This attorney was out over his skies with this guy lol.
What can the attorney threaten the the inmate with, he's already in prison
This is why you don’t get a public defender
What a lousy attorney. Sure, the inmate is acting like a career criminal, but so what? He's a career criminal. But the attorney is pathetic.
You're talking to a super og on the stand! You two barely share the same space 🤣🤣
Few things out of the ordinary here: First the courtroom looks more like a class room and even the judge looks like a school hostel overseer aunty, hahaha. Then the defendent sists smartly behind a desk of his own. This looks lile a very easy casual courtroom
I believe this is a prison hearing. Which are run differently
Wow this lawyer is really, REALLY terrible at his job. Not a dude that is going to win over any judge or jury that's for sure.
The attorney in question is most likely a public defender... Who would actually pay money for his services?
Yep, that's the 21st-century Clarence Darrow, all right.
Who dat
not a lawyer. a public defender
Is this someone else’s defense attorney? Seems weird he would give his own defense attorney a hard time lol
“Spar”. There’s no fist fight here! 😞
I'm pretty sure you're not getting off if you fight your attorney in court.
Hilarious. Inmate gave him the business!
At the end of the day and the trial one man will be going home to his own crib to eat his own food, shower in his own bathroom and sleep in his own bed.
The other man will be returning to his cage because he gave up on himself somewhere along the way.
Tragic.
You have to give the inmate some credit in this situation. This Attorney thought he was hot Shitt but got shot down fast lol.
This judge has no control over her courtroom.
Why do convicts act so arrogant?