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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ก.ค. 2023
- We rewind back in time to 2020 when we asked and we promised to not release this footage until the release of Mission Impossible: Dead Reckoning Part 1 on 14th July 2023.
So, in this video, we capture the arrival of the model steam locomotive used in the film as part of a train crash stunt arriving at Quorn & Woodhouse on the Great Central Railway by two low loaders, one with the loco and other with the tender for its tests prior to the shooting of the film on the North Yorkshire Moors Railway and Stoney Middleton in Derbyshire where the crash scene would take place in 2021. This would be her first outing of 'Le General Rive-Reine' in public to anyone who saw her heading to the GCR.
Some details about the loco told to us by the designers and people who brought her to the GCR from Surrey:
The loco design was based on the BR Britannia Pacific & 9F classes
She was built in Surrey using a real newly built loco frame and newly constructed A4 based chime whistle. Most parts of the loco were a mix of wood and steel
It was tender driven using a Scania lorry diesel engine from a remote control 'Making this the first real life tender driven engine?'
The loco cost over 2 million pounds to build!
The loco was totally destroyed from the crash impact and has been sent for scrap.
After capturing her at Quorn & Woodhouse we fast forward 360 to Stoney Middleton in the Peak District on 18th August 2021 where we see the loco awaiting its fate of crashing into the disused quarry as part of the film, the scene would take place just 3 days later on 21st August 2021.
Please note these clips were taken before we acquired directional microphones with windshields on them so please do excuse the lots of wind noise on this windy day.
Overall it was a pleasure to capture this locomotive up close before it was used in the crash scene, a truly once in a lifetime experience and what an amazing creation it was!
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For this wanting to know details on this loco, please read the description.
Rive - Reine is one of the stations detailed in the 1964 film The Train starring Burt Lancaster.
I noticed that also! -
The "General Rive-Reine" in tribute to two other great 'train' movies
A real tender driven loco..... life imitating art 😊
I’ve driven a class 8 shunted at Longsight… thanks for the recall of the memory
Stop the film at about 1.06 or 1.07, and you can see right through where the "firebox" and "boiler" are joined together!
It always makes me sad to know that it was only built to be destroyed!
better than destroying a real one!
Yes! What a waste of money, effort and enthusiasm!
@@DandamanV Destroying no one would be the best. For any silly movie.
Its just a non working replica. We have working ones thankfully, and steam locomotives are still being built by enthusiasts in England.
Looks like a mixed cross between several British steam loco's. It's a Duchess with a Britannia cab/rear truck and Royal Scot smoke deflectors, with French side valances added.
Yeah! That’s exactly what fooled me! The valances were an accessory too far. It doesn’t look like a typical French locomotive. Incidentally, French locomotives were seriously very good, and efficient. They had to be, because French coal was pretty awful.
I'm pretty sure it's just a Britannia with side valances and different snooker deflectors
They describe the design influences in the video description as a mix of Britannia and 9F. It was crashed in to a disused quarry about 7 or 8 Miles from my home in Derbyshire and no, I didn't see anything of it unfortunately....bonus was, I was a safe distance from Tom Cruise 🤣🤣🤣
@@joshtoth-thomas5847 It is. It has the linkage on the left hand side of the boiler for the regulator which Duchesses never had.
Fico muito agradecido pela beleza dessa locomotiva.
I simply love that David Brown tractor.They had the Hillman/Humber motor.
I will admit, it's very convincing 😊
A beautiful and brave tractor indeed!
Great video, and a nice bonus seeing the David Brown tractor. :3
Thank you very much! :)
Cameron
Many great actors lived during the running of those locos.
The mock up of the derailed GW 0-4-2 running thro' the streets in the film (that I saw on first general release) of the Titfield Thunderbolt was impressive enough.
😀👍i love it this is very very nostalgic look like back in the 18/19 centuries
beautifull engine
This sure was interesting to watch. Reminds me of the behind of the scenes video on the train scene for this movie and how they made the passenger cars just like this engine that went off a cliff.
Glad you found it interesting, thanks for watching :)
Cameron
that was really interesting - ok a giant model train but still impressive - thanks for sharing this with us
Filming the Disney movie "The Lone Ranger" in 2012, we had 3 "steam locomotives", all made by Special Effects Department. 1 did not move, 1 was shoved around by a diesel electric switch engine, and one was powered by 2 Cummins 900 hp diesel engines in the tender, driving hydraulic pumps, which ran hydraulic motors on the tender wheels. Just like a Hornby HO model steam locomotive. None of the people in the train department thought it would work, but, what did we know? Well, it performed so poorly, I christened it the "Jokeomotive", and the director started calling it "my very expensive paperweight". Long story short...The MI 7 prop is not the first life sized tender powered engine.
I was waiting for all seven loco’s to be unloaded from trucks to the GCR and that it must have been a difficult job to organise getting them there in a convoy from different parts of the UK.
After I watched the video, I realised and re read the headline. I added an ‘s’ to loco! 🤪🤦♂️🤣
Ah man reading the title i thought that it arrived today, although not sure how considering it drove off a cliff but I guess I thought it was another one. I would've visited to go and see it. Ah well great footage.
Thank you very much :)
Cameron
On the side of the locomotive it says "le general rive reine". In 1964 john frankenhiemer directed a movie called the train. About a german war colonel in 1944 who stole art from paris to sell for a new panzer division. Majority of that movie filmed on a abandoned stretch of normady the town name was rive-reine wonder if there is any relation between the two movies
That's some great facts right there! Thanks for sharing :)
Cameron
@@RailView_YT I caught the cross reference too. An awesome movie, a very good use of two hours of anyone's time. It was the last full feature movie shot in black and white. So much info available about that film, far too much to share here. Check it out, you won't be disappointed.
Can fully recommend the film _The Train_ with an excellent Burt Lancaster. Didn't spot the name connection though. Nice one.
Very well spotted ! There must be some sort of historical cinematic connection - hommage to John Frankenheimer perhaps ?
The "Le General" part of the name is probably a reference to Buster Keaton's "The General", which like John Frankenheimer's "The Train" also featured amazing railway stunts done with actual locomotive and rolling stock. Combining it with "Rive Reine" basically makes it a double homage to two great films.
Looks relatively convincing, for a movie prop!
superbe train
How would you replace the tires on that flat bed if any blow? Be interesting to hear.
Cor nice one mate, rare to see a Class 37 slip at 6 mins in 😉
Why thank you Mr Jenden, gotta love a surprise 37 appearance 👌
😂😂
I love how the numbering copies the style of the French steam locomotive on a British style locomotive, and with the wheel number and not the axle number like the SNCF does.
By french standard, a 462 engine would be massive.
It would also have no powered wheels. 4F2 would be *even bigger*.
Selon la SNCF ce serait une 231
I didn't read the description, have not fully grasped this is a movie prop (although it does mention Mission Impossible in the title, fair enough). So I'm watching this video, thinking how nice it is when people save old locomotives and restore them to look this nice, and then at the end I read "the locomotive was launched off of the cliff" O_O. In the first moment I was still thinking, yeah sure they're launching this locomotive after the reconstruction was finished, clearly. As in, launching a ship. The "off of the cliff" part took a moment to sink in :D
my brain gets to be this vapid once a day.
this sounds about like me
well done looks great
Thank you my dear 🌺
It looks so real 😍
Certainly looks very convincing doesn't it lol
Cameron
Love you steam locomotive 🚂 ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️
My best friend, It's always great. Your video is excellent quality. We liked and enjoyed to the end. Thanks
Thank you very much, glad you enjoyed it! :)
Cameron
Fantastico il recupero di queste splendide locomotive.
Hi ya all that is one powerful truck!!!!
Must not have roller bearings , she did not want to move !! The things they will do for films amazes me , she looks great !!
My best friend, that's a great video. I will always cheer for you in Korea I'm looking forward to a great video. Have a nice day.
I actually see this when I was driving other day it’s massive
I was in the UK and on the high way I say this same locomotive . I’ve been looking for what it was
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This is a similar "prop" loco like they built for the movie..Murdet on the Orient Express, which is now a lovely restaurant with the coaches up in Bassenthwaite...well wort a visit
Great Video, thanks for sharing
That loco is one hell of a weight to pull for a modestly sized 1940s tractor with a 2 1/2 litre four cylinder lump and a mere 30 or so horse power. I'm not surprised it was spinning the back wheels.
Yes, but not full weight, much being built from wood and other stuff and would have had a hollow inside.
Good old David Brown tractor,nice to see classic British engineering getting a look in!.
A Case-o-matic very likely would have gotten that loco moving.
For a fake unit it looks amazing
Brilliant but disappointing!!! I was getting all keyed up about visiting the GCR to ride behind this!!!
Superb film
Thanks very much, glad you enjoyed the film :)
Cameron
I was looking forward to riding behind it too 😢
I wish I could see this train in action
Said the little red tractor pulling the loco … “I think I can, I think I can, I think I can …” 😂
I looked at this and thought “did they rebuild it after it wrecked” but no this is just old footage 😂
Same
The low-loader semitrailer makes funny sounds.... "bowwowwowowwow". A trailer with a built-in pack of dogs 😄
Very nice video! Thumbs up 👍and best greetings
Thank you very much! :)
Cameron
As a retired truck driver I'm curious about the horsepower they have in their trucks pulling this weight.
FH16-550HP, may I think. And a strong hydrostatic engine braking too, probably 600HP+350HP of engine pneumatic breaking..
It isn't the HP so much as the gearing which is one of the reasons they can't travel very fast.
what tests did occur for the loco while it was at the GCR did it get a run of the line under its own power ?
Nice video, LIKE😄
Thank you! :)
Cameron
Very cool! Stéph.
Interesting.
Fascinating video thank you. All that money for a superb mongrel locomotive which actually 'worked' in its short life. Shame to scrap all that hard work.
Thanks very much John :)
Cameron
Wow, a 1:1Scale model train
È bom ver que essas maquinas em alguns lugares do mundo ainda estão em uso em memoria de uma historia que ser contada por elas mesmas com existencia neste seculo presente.
Isso é "só" uma replica que foi destruída intencionalmente
Being a railway nerd, I can’t not see Britannia under that ‘disguise’.
Wow.... good 👍
Looks like 8"L * 9"W * (2+2) * 7 = 2,016 sq.inches at 120 psi = 242,000 pounds (110 tonnes) just very roughly. I do this for my car & the truck that brings my propane.
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Seeing a tender drive itself was odd.
It was being pulled by the lorry behind it
Aq suka lokomotif uap.. naik yg jadul maupun yg mmodrn (prduk thn 30an )..
Interessting video, thumbs up :)
Thank you, Simon! :)
Cameron
Can we build a teplica of the locomotive to put in a museaum
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Cameron
Tender driven? That’s kinda cool
4:45 That is an unusual looking railway trailer.
Would love to have seen, photos or a video of the aftermouth of the shot, or cutting and removing wreckage for scrap
I wonder if any of her parts salvaged after the crash?
Here I thought I was looking at a real locomotive.
When all the existing steamers have worn out in say 50 years, this might be what they do instead.
Tender driven wooden replicas, with smoke generator and chuff chuff speakers.
Or if there are funds just build new steam locomotives based on older plans. Back in the 1950s Walt Disney built DLRR No. 1 C.K. Holiday and No. 2 E.P. Ripley, two narrow gauge 4-4-0s, in his movie studio shops. Union Pacific No. 119 and Central Pacific Railroad No. 60 Jupiter were replicas built in 1979 since the originals were scrapped, and they occasionally steam up at Promontory Summit in Utah. And then there are the more notable rebuilds too. LNER Peppercorn Class A1 60163 Tornado started construction in 1994 and was completed in 2008 thanks to volunteers and donations. Also there is Central Pacific No. 63 Leviathan which had a replica built and completed in 2009 and finds itself steamed up occasionally as well. And now there is the Pennsylvania Railroad 5550 T1 Trust which is following in the footsteps of the Tornado with plans on rebuilding a lost locomotive class from design plans.
Arguably that could be the best way going forward as more modern materials and building practices can make for safer and more efficiently run steam locomotives that will be able to run for much longer. Things like welding instead of rivets, modern braking systems or modern electrical and safety systems are good things to come from these more modern steam locomotive.
That is not going to happen, they will just keep updating existing stock, and build new locomotives, one such project is aiming to repopulate Steam preservation locos up and down the country!
@@TheOnlyBongo Don't forget more modern casting methods. "Lost styrofoam" is used to make automobile engines more complex and easier than sand casting ever could, not to mention the wonders of CNC and 3D printing. Plus, new metal has no aging problems.
@@TheOnlyBongo And Tornado wont be the last, in the UK there are more locos of various classes with modernizations being built and several others planned. One example is The Clan Project (incidentally based at GCR where this video was filmed) who have been building a new Clan class (standard 6) loco to mainline certification (like Tornado) over the last decade or so, they expect it to be completed in 2026...
@@killakanzgaming The Clan Project is now based at CTL Seal in Sheffield.
It’s the engine that fell
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Why did SA Smith move it when it Mainly Reid Freight that moved all the carriages and loco
Because they were contracted to do so
That train that fell off I saw in the car the other year
this loco is clearly a britannia with some added features to look different
I wonder why they made a British Railways loco when the film was supposed to in Europe, could it be because a continental loco would be too big for our loading gauge and a smaller scale replica would not look right.
Cedarcam, Its a good question. I guess building a full sized French loco in the UK from plans would have been a greater challenge than basing it on a loco that many engineers would be familiar with. No doubt the producers chose the UK because of its strong steam engineering tradition and ready availability of heritage railways to film the other scenes in the movie. The English language and US movie production companies having a studio presence near London would also have helped.
What loco is it based on plz I’ve read the description but can’t see it
It’s supposed to be based on a br standard 7 Britannia locomotive
Too me it looks like the Britannia class but not sure,
Based on a BR Standard 7 Britannia.
Thers a movie prop locomotive at bassenthwaite station
Edit: was this before they threw it off a bridge? if so its a shame if this is old footage as she is beautiful for a mutt loco of many types of original locomotives
Edit 2: Nevermind! should have made a mock version and kept the original because while it be expensive it would have been awesome to see if this design had any potential as a real locomotive.
Great video, So. Is it locomotive going to get restored or will it get Scraped?!
Thanks very much Jimmy! :) She was totally destroyed in the crash and set for scrap.
Cameron
@RailView_YT Jesus!! There's 2 million pound gone!!
@@jimmystransportmarvels8815They’ll have made the money back very easily in box office profits
@@JD0G69 Going by Box Office Mojo:
The film had a budget of $291 (which included making and destroying this prop).
It grossed $370m so far worldwide, but do note that this does not account for the box office's share of tickets which internationally can be 50% or higher.
Further, the golden rule in cinema is that you need roughly 2.5x your budget to account for marketing and miscellaneous costs to break even.
As a result, it made $370m gross profit so far and needed something like $725m to break even. Bear in mind, that's just break even - to actually be considered profitable you need to make way more than that, realistically at least $1b.
It made the money back on making this train prop, but it seems to have been a waste of time and money when it looks to be a flop. xD
@@MrJoeyWheelerOuch, that must be one of the biggest box office flops ever 🤣 Part 2 will probably be even worse lol
When l saw them run a steam 🚂 loco off the bridge l couldn't believe it. So much better to know it was a prop not a real 🚂 steam locomotive. I love 💕 🚂🚃🚃.
Why did they have to distroy this beautiful locomotive, just for a movie?
Is the green one a switcher?
It certainly is! We call them shunters in the UK :)
Cameron
So given that this is a full size mock up and so could have been made to look like anything, why did they make something that looks like a Britannia with bits on to make it look foreign?
Hello. I stumbled on this film on u tube and thought it was a French import. Just shows how you can be fooled Cheers Mark
Why do S. A. Smith still have a fax number?
Wow kereta uap mau di impor atau Exspor me mana ya mantap .
impressive toy-train
Real loco frames, and built in Surrey? Did they reuse the metalwork from the stillborn B17 61662 project?
Nope
Just such a crying shame it was destroyed in the film all in the name of realism but that’s the name of the film game !!
What class is this steam loco?
It's mainly based on a BR Standard 7 but has features from other British locos. Done like that on purpose for the film
Anybody know if anything survives off it
I liked it better when movie people would wreck a toy train instead of a real one. Big fan of Gomez Addams 😂
Bijzonder fraaie replica.
期待他上轨的那一刻
Weird perception of Money in the Movies.............. Surely a 3/4 scale 141R would have been a better "cast member".... Does raise the question of what a Double Kyl-Chap Brit would have perfomed like !
You need to put some weights on the front of that tractor