@@TOXICZER0 Marns Sundering, Primevals Glorious are both fairly good cards. Expensive, yes, but good. I use Primevals as a win condition in my Niv Mizzet Reborn deck.
Through sheer power of personality, you've both managed to maintain this channel despite the seemingly devastating proclamation that Sylvan Library is an over-rated card. Despite that absurdity, I'm still here, I'm still liking and I'm still viewing the NPN.
I would imagine this to be the hardest or harder one at least, but y'all still pull through a solid and informative 30 minutes. Big thanks from us all :)
Gravebreaker Lamia and Corpse Connoisseur are also both really high priority because they are creatures, and in monoblack reanimator, it means you can indefinitely refill your graveyard
I also want to point out Signal the Clans in Gruul colors. It's random, but well worth it if you find 3 creatures that do similar things, or in Xenagos, just grab any 3 big baddies that will kill someone and it doesn't matter which one you get.
You can use Parallel Thoughts to avoid cards that penalize you for drawing as well, or to not lose to a mill deck (can't "not draw" a card; can't lose your seven best cards to mill). You setup your win combo with a bunch of draw cards, so if you don't get a combo piece, you get a card that gets your combo pieces. It is one of my personal fave sleeper cards. I'm a tad saddened to see attention drawn to it lol.
A pretty niche tutor that I love for my first sliver deck is "bring to light". It is 3(u)(g) and basically says you can tutor for an instant, sorcery, or creature with cmc < or = to the number or colors used to cast it, exile that card and cast it for free. Basically acts as another copy of any sliver I own (for the same or a little more mana as the actual card) and it triggers cascade since the card is cast. Literally better than a demonic tutor by 2 mana if I am trying to get one of the wubrg slivers into play and basically breaks even on any 3 mana sliver (like harmonic sliver). Also only .25¢
Most sentient races have had classes for a long time now, already, with regards to Coveted Prize. That part is nothing new, and didn't start with this Zendikar set (as seemingly framed as a claim at 10:20). However, for the next year until the DnD set (and possibly past it until it rotates out), I think we'll be seeing a lot more Clerics, Rogues, Warriors and Wizards than average.
Parallel Thoughts is actually really cool if you use it more as a resource storage enchantment than "ill tutor my 7 best cards". If you put your 7 best cards in it its going to be a priority to destroy because now youve exiled your 7 best cards, and chances are your 7 best cards dont all do similar things so when you need one specifically you have a chance of getting any of the 7. However, if you put say 7 removal spells under it, then whenever you need removal you can guarantee youll draw it. Or put 7 "board wipe recovery" cards under it and never fear a boardwipe again. All the powers of Yugi Moto for 3UU! You can also put 7 lands under it to guarantee you draw one when you need one and make it much less likely you do when you dont. Probably not its best use, but its there.
Sorry to just blow your comments up: Great video though guys! Picked up a few tricks for a couple decks. You make my workday slowly crawl by just a bit faster. Thanks!
I use parallel thoughts in my BW control deck to pile my best counter cards together and then I always have access too 1-2 counter cards in my hand guaranteed. Helps keep the enchantment safe as well.
Parallel Thoughts is one of my favorite weirdo cards for my Golos deck. Use it to tutor up everything that orders the top of your library - Lim Dul's Vault, Brainstorm, etc. - then have a way to customize Golos' ability every turn. Obviously not fool proof, but can be quite amusing when it works!
Something you didn't touch on with Parallel Thoughts is that when you replace a draw effect you can negate milling. Cause you replace the draw and even if there is nothing to draw under Parallel Thoughts you just complete as much of the action as you can. So you can't loose due to milling and can negate milling if the wording is right on cards like this.
Gravebreaker Lamia lets you get any CARD not just creatures, so it's good in like a flashback/Kess deck as well. It's a pet card of mine. It's really good in Muldrotha, specifically because it is both a creature AND an enchantment, so you can cast it as your enchantment from your yard that turn, tutor for a creature, then cast that. Also, ETB double with Yarok. It's baller.
Uncage the menagerie can find Caustic Caterpillar, dragonmaster outcast or diligent farmhand. - Kresh the bloodbraided: I just love to sac things over and over with dictate of erebos out
For Wishclaw Talisman : Ability on stack, eat it with Ironworks, and recycle it with stuff like Scrap Trawler or Myr Retreiver.👌 I run it in Ich & Keskit and my opponents never see it lol
I think you guys are going to put the "im sorry" uncut foil sheet of that one set (i forget which) wizards sent out when they messed up with the hasbro gamestore sale.
you should through in dreadhorde invasion in a budget bomb list thing idk what it would be under token generator or enchantments its basically a bitterblossom but for 94 cents which is crazy to me beause bitterblossom is 50+ dollars
Do you guys still do commander tune-ups??? I'd really enjoy berry's take on my emry deck. Ik you guys have done a video of emry already, but still might be interesting if youd do a tune up
my only issue with recommending crop rotation to budget players is that there is no budget land worth getting with crop rotation. Crop Rotation is for getting stuff like dark depths, cabal coffers, nykthos, gaea's cradle, etc, none of which budget players use
I would say we disagree, crop rotation has more than one use and can be good at hitting landfall, fixing, upping your land count in graveyard, or getting marginal value with something like Bojuka Bog
If anyone wants a cheap red tutor for budget. I would include Flamekin Harbinger for either malignus, hateflayer, or the two drop elemental that prevents life gain.
Something that wasn't brought up about the mages is that usually all the good stuff in your deck is already that CMC and being able to flicker them is great value.
Trinket Mage can also just grab an artifact land like Great Furnace or Darksteel Citadel if you just want more artifacts in play or need something you can sac for "free." I've definitely used Trinket Mage just to fix my mana before.
@@Funder1Nk It'd be different if it wasn't a black card, but black just has more options now that are better that Diabolic Tutor on a budget. Let's say Diabolic Tutor was a Red card; it'd be $10 because red really only has Gamble, Imperial Recruiter, and the 8 mana Minotaur Tutor from Jumpstart.
It's just a little too specific for what we're going for, we tried to keep it to searching for a specific card type rather than creature type because that opens you up to a lot more cards that most people wouldn't find very helpful
Hey guys it very well be on my end but your video wont load, but all other videos on TH-cam are working for me. Just wanted to let you know just in case. I’ll try again later cheers
Yeah but for all the budget players Out there: I think investing in a demonic tutor is still a great investment.. i know it isn't cheap but I don't think this card will loos value any time soon. And beeing able to tutor on turn two sometimes / tutor and then play the thing for just two mana more is suuper nice. Great video ^^..
@@NitpickingNerds i play it as a budget option (some of those black tutors are a little pricey) in my Muldrotha deck, grab my demonic consult, game over
Eh, I think you guys missed a bunch of good ones. Secondly, parallel thoughts is a terrible recommendation bc if someone bounces, blinks or removes it then you just lost your 7 best cards. Also any “tutor” that says reveal the card defeats the purpose in my opinion. One really good gy tutor I can think of is ‘vile entomber’. Next is a tribal tutor effect called pyre of heroes. Lastly, a few honorable mentions. There are not less than $1 but all are less than $4 I believe. Profane tutor Long-term plans Beseech the queen
Aw, there are a few decent red tutors. Goblin Matron and Hoarding Dragon are pretty good, and dragonstorm is... funny. Sarkhan's triumph is only BARELY over a dollar.
@@NitpickingNerdsthe tension of Beezy always snapping at Joe! Lol idk if you guys are doing a bit, but it seems like you guys are always seeking to be better or smarter than the other. Like the whole episode Beezy was getting mad that Joe was reading more cards than him, and near the end Joe kinda flipped on Beezy! Reminds me of me and my friend, kind of competitive tension. Just something I picked up on.
Nitpicking Nerds wow thanks for the fast answer, really awesome. Btw loved your Ikoria commander videos, specially zaxara and kathril deck tech, made both deck from your list.
Dudes, most of these cards should swap places with your unplayable card list, because a lot of these are trash, and a lot of the unplayables are bombs lmao 🤦♂️
You can totally get the Legendary Sorceries with Thalia's Lancers. The card reads "legendary card".
Daaaang I was wrong, now it’s even better!
@@NitpickingNerds I mean, it is a good card, but being able to get the Legendary Sorceries doesn't bump it too much lol. They're all mostly terrible 😂
Unfortunately lol
@@TOXICZER0 not yet it doesn't :p although it can tutor primevals glorious rebirth which i have run as a win con in ur dragon :)
@@TOXICZER0 Marns Sundering, Primevals Glorious are both fairly good cards. Expensive, yes, but good. I use Primevals as a win condition in my Niv Mizzet Reborn deck.
Through sheer power of personality, you've both managed to maintain this channel despite the seemingly devastating proclamation that Sylvan Library is an over-rated card. Despite that absurdity, I'm still here, I'm still liking and I'm still viewing the NPN.
I would imagine this to be the hardest or harder one at least, but y'all still pull through a solid and informative 30 minutes. Big thanks from us all :)
Nylea's Intervention is fantastic in a Borborygmos deck. Fill your hand with lands and then throw them at everyone lol
Gravebreaker Lamia and Corpse Connoisseur are also both really high priority because they are creatures, and in monoblack reanimator, it means you can indefinitely refill your graveyard
A card that i've never heard talked about is Vile Entomber, and I think its pretty underrated. 2BB for entomb on a very flickerable body
Of all the mtg guide channels I find this one the most helpful and fun
I also want to point out Signal the Clans in Gruul colors. It's random, but well worth it if you find 3 creatures that do similar things, or in Xenagos, just grab any 3 big baddies that will kill someone and it doesn't matter which one you get.
Good if you have 3 creatures that do similar things.
Entomb + regrowth?? Anyways love the mythos cycle, completely underrated and they have sick art
Ignacio U. The art is 10/10
Seb always knocks it out of the park.
If you have Teferi (the creature), you can tutor for any creature in your library, because Tef GIVES those cards Flash.
Interesting I didn't know that interaction
@@NitpickingNerds It's very weird for sure. I didn't know about that until just now either.
Mausoleum secrets has always been a favourite of mine
You can use Parallel Thoughts to avoid cards that penalize you for drawing as well, or to not lose to a mill deck (can't "not draw" a card; can't lose your seven best cards to mill). You setup your win combo with a bunch of draw cards, so if you don't get a combo piece, you get a card that gets your combo pieces. It is one of my personal fave sleeper cards. I'm a tad saddened to see attention drawn to it lol.
You can also choose to draw from the pile even if it is empty to skip your draw step
A pretty niche tutor that I love for my first sliver deck is "bring to light". It is 3(u)(g) and basically says you can tutor for an instant, sorcery, or creature with cmc < or = to the number or colors used to cast it, exile that card and cast it for free. Basically acts as another copy of any sliver I own (for the same or a little more mana as the actual card) and it triggers cascade since the card is cast. Literally better than a demonic tutor by 2 mana if I am trying to get one of the wubrg slivers into play and basically breaks even on any 3 mana sliver (like harmonic sliver). Also only .25¢
Most sentient races have had classes for a long time now, already, with regards to Coveted Prize. That part is nothing new, and didn't start with this Zendikar set (as seemingly framed as a claim at 10:20). However, for the next year until the DnD set (and possibly past it until it rotates out), I think we'll be seeing a lot more Clerics, Rogues, Warriors and Wizards than average.
parallel thoughts is one of my favorite budget blue win cons it plays out like a bad doomsday but its really fun.
Parallel Thoughts is actually really cool if you use it more as a resource storage enchantment than "ill tutor my 7 best cards". If you put your 7 best cards in it its going to be a priority to destroy because now youve exiled your 7 best cards, and chances are your 7 best cards dont all do similar things so when you need one specifically you have a chance of getting any of the 7.
However, if you put say 7 removal spells under it, then whenever you need removal you can guarantee youll draw it. Or put 7 "board wipe recovery" cards under it and never fear a boardwipe again. All the powers of Yugi Moto for 3UU!
You can also put 7 lands under it to guarantee you draw one when you need one and make it much less likely you do when you dont. Probably not its best use, but its there.
Damn no wargate I love that card for grabbing my big mana lands, mana crypt or combo pieces. Plus with the mystery boosters reprint its 1.36$.
We love that card, it was just out of our price range of $1 or less 😂
In the process of building a new deck and thanks for the ideas guys!! You're awesome!!
Sorry to just blow your comments up: Great video though guys! Picked up a few tricks for a couple decks. You make my workday slowly crawl by just a bit faster. Thanks!
Feel free to complement us and promote positivity as much as you want lol. Appreciate the kind words
I use parallel thoughts in my BW control deck to pile my best counter cards together and then I always have access too 1-2 counter cards in my hand guaranteed. Helps keep the enchantment safe as well.
Parallel Thoughts is one of my favorite weirdo cards for my Golos deck. Use it to tutor up everything that orders the top of your library - Lim Dul's Vault, Brainstorm, etc. - then have a way to customize Golos' ability every turn. Obviously not fool proof, but can be quite amusing when it works!
Fierce empathy is in werewolves! Sometimes it searches for vigor, for chain reaction combos!
Coveted prize in my Marchesa, the Black Rose deck. Marchesa is a Wizard and I have a bunch of other Wizard synergies in that deck.
10,000 subscribers in 2020!!!! Its almost here! Keep it up fellas, yall taking off 🚀🚀🚀
Heck yeah! We are 100% going to make it before 2020 is over
I really like parallel thoughts. You just gotta be careful because if it get removed you cant acces the cards anymore.
In/against a wheel-deck it would be almost broken. If you've a black commander, insidious dreams does the same trick.
Something you didn't touch on with Parallel Thoughts is that when you replace a draw effect you can negate milling. Cause you replace the draw and even if there is nothing to draw under Parallel Thoughts you just complete as much of the action as you can. So you can't loose due to milling and can negate milling if the wording is right on cards like this.
Gravebreaker Lamia lets you get any CARD not just creatures, so it's good in like a flashback/Kess deck as well. It's a pet card of mine. It's really good in Muldrotha, specifically because it is both a creature AND an enchantment, so you can cast it as your enchantment from your yard that turn, tutor for a creature, then cast that. Also, ETB double with Yarok. It's baller.
Parallel thoughts is good with Jin gitaxis as commander you can Draw all 7 you tutor on end step for perfect hand
Where can I get the shirts?
I like fierce empath and sphinx summoner . Typically really suits there color's need.
Dizzy spell, and some other transmute cards depending on your deck
Uncage the menagerie can find Caustic Caterpillar, dragonmaster outcast or diligent farmhand. - Kresh the bloodbraided: I just love to sac things over and over with dictate of erebos out
For Wishclaw Talisman : Ability on stack, eat it with Ironworks, and recycle it with stuff like Scrap Trawler or Myr Retreiver.👌 I run it in Ich & Keskit and my opponents never see it lol
What about cards with Transmute?
I used have Muddle the mixture in a mill deck to search for Glimpse of the Unthinkable.
I like that a nice chunk of these tutors have bodies that can be blinked....
I think you guys are going to put the "im sorry" uncut foil sheet of that one set (i forget which) wizards sent out when they messed up with the hasbro gamestore sale.
Interesting guess, no spoilers though
Does that parallell thoughts prevent the second pile from milling?
you should through in dreadhorde invasion in a budget bomb list thing idk what it would be under token generator or enchantments its basically a bitterblossom but for 94 cents which is crazy to me beause bitterblossom is 50+ dollars
I might be stupid but stacking lands on parallel thoughts is a reasonably smart play.
I love coveted prize. Goes great in Tazri
Love trinket mage. Gets 1 or less. Perfect for getting moxes and sol ring. Tribute mage is good for getting greaves
Multimodal spells get big bonuses, transmute cards are great
Was that ‘his arms are wide open’ a Star Trek TNG reference? :p
13:32 Homeward path only returns creatures.
Yes, I know I'm a buzzkill
You can tutor for Mindslaver :)
But when you animate it with Karn it will be a creature :D
Parallel Thoughts is great for janky combos, the require a lot of pieces. Having extra card draw is important with this card.
Do you guys still do commander tune-ups???
I'd really enjoy berry's take on my emry deck.
Ik you guys have done a video of emry already, but still might be interesting if youd do a tune up
We still do Tune-Ups, we did a First Sliver Tune-Up a couple of days ago. However it is reserved for a specific Patreon Tier now :)
my only issue with recommending crop rotation to budget players is that there is no budget land worth getting with crop rotation. Crop Rotation is for getting stuff like dark depths, cabal coffers, nykthos, gaea's cradle, etc, none of which budget players use
Bajuka bog is a relevant crop rot target, and it’s $1 or less.
I would say we disagree, crop rotation has more than one use and can be good at hitting landfall, fixing, upping your land count in graveyard, or getting marginal value with something like Bojuka Bog
@@NitpickingNerds copy Cats!! ;)
If anyone wants a cheap red tutor for budget. I would include Flamekin Harbinger for either malignus, hateflayer, or the two drop elemental that prevents life gain.
Parrel thoughts i can draw all 7 of those cards in 1 turn in my kami deck
I run parallel thoughts in golos so I don’t accidentally pop a cyclonic rift or something into exile at the wrong time
Heliod's Pilgrim could find splinter twin if you're in that shell
Goddamnit. I watched one video... then two... fuck I binged watched your videos.
Couldn’t you get legendary planeswalkers with Thalia’s lancers
Yes, you can!
I want to make you guys each a deck. If i start now i might actually be able to slap em together in time for christmas.
Something that wasn't brought up about the mages is that usually all the good stuff in your deck is already that CMC and being able to flicker them is great value.
Trinket Mage can also just grab an artifact land like Great Furnace or Darksteel Citadel if you just want more artifacts in play or need something you can sac for "free." I've definitely used Trinket Mage just to fix my mana before.
Not a lot of playable auros
Light paws
:)
You guys rock keep up this wonderful Pawzitive videos.
I really liked the video and it showed me a lot of tutors I didn’t know. However do you think a card like diabolic tutor just isn’t good enough?
AGUSTIN PROSELLO it’s 4 mana :/
@@Funder1Nk It'd be different if it wasn't a black card, but black just has more options now that are better that Diabolic Tutor on a budget. Let's say Diabolic Tutor was a Red card; it'd be $10 because red really only has Gamble, Imperial Recruiter, and the 8 mana Minotaur Tutor from Jumpstart.
Even if it weren’t black. 4 mana tutors are not good. Look at idyllic tutor. It’s 3 mana and it sucks. Hell even beseech the queen doesn’t see play.
Love this sort of content! Thanks
I think this is the latest of about six of these videos we've done over time; it's always cool to see how strong your deck can be on a budget!
Thalia's Lancers is actually any Legendary card, so you can fetch Legendary Sorceries with them.
Heck yeah! I had that one wrong
Video sounds great guys!
Been loving your videos, trying to build my first commander deck. How tall are you Beezy?
6 foot 6 lol
Also who is your first commander going to be?
@@NitpickingNerds started playing Mono Black in Revised, so love Zombies and Vampires. May do Scarab God first
emergent ultimatum omniscience liliana planewide might have been me :) if it was around when ikoria came out
Won’t let me watch the video says no stream tap to retry
It isn't working on the TH-cam app for this specific video, you can use safari or a computer though
yeah definitely do a budge bombs aura video
I’m also having trouble loading this vid. Never had this problem before and I can’t go on with out NN content please help haha
Are the issues still coming up?
Nitpicking Nerds I didn't have problems loading this video at all 😐
Nitpicking Nerds they are yes. Only on the app thou I found other means to watch so I still got my NN fix haha
I still can’t watch it from my iPhone. Says “No Stream Tap to Retry”
Must have been an issue with the upload, really puzzling not sure what happened 🤨
Isn’t goblin matron under $1?
It's just a little too specific for what we're going for, we tried to keep it to searching for a specific card type rather than creature type because that opens you up to a lot more cards that most people wouldn't find very helpful
Nitpicking Nerds okay, then godo, bandit warlord is a tutor. He finds any equipment. He is also under $1
Hey guys it very well be on my end but your video wont load, but all other videos on TH-cam are working for me. Just wanted to let you know just in case. I’ll try again later cheers
Ryan C I went to my browser and loaded it just fine won’t work on my TH-cam app but worked fine in the browser
Sapient9 oh ok nice thanks, I like these guys videos I’ll just load it in safari thanks man
Hope it worked for you! We'll make sure whatever dumb glitch this was doesn't happen again
Yeah but for all the budget players Out there: I think investing in a demonic tutor is still a great investment.. i know it isn't cheap but I don't think this card will loos value any time soon. And beeing able to tutor on turn two sometimes / tutor and then play the thing for just two mana more is suuper nice.
Great video ^^..
I have one that i opened in a box, i ise it only in 1 deck, its to powerfull, tits usually outpaces to much the rest of the table
Proxy it instead
@@snoozingoriginal4263 also an Option :D..
I must say the only card that was missed maybe because its slightly over a dollar is Final Parting which is a better Jarad's Orders
It's very similar, its like $1.75
Card Kingdom must have saw your comment. They're 0.99 when I'm typing this.
You forgot to talk about transmute. Very very cheap tutors ! I love drift of phantasms in some blue decks ! :P;
Coveted Prize: Stonework Packbeast
Not very coveted lol
It only counts as one member of the party not all fours
@@GRtogetaBIC sad face...
For some reason YT app won’t let me watch this video on mobile. I’ll have to watch later on my computer
Yeah there's a strange mobile issue with it, it seems to allow you to watch on mobile through safari (and the edhrec homepage)
@@NitpickingNerds I was eventually able to watch it on my computer. this reminds me to get a mystical teachings for my Kess, dissident mage deck!
Wishclaw talisman is underrated, cards awesome
What decks do you play it in?
@@NitpickingNerds i play it as a budget option (some of those black tutors are a little pricey) in my Muldrotha deck, grab my demonic consult, game over
Awesome channel btw
Eh, I think you guys missed a bunch of good ones.
Secondly, parallel thoughts is a terrible recommendation bc if someone bounces, blinks or removes it then you just lost your 7 best cards.
Also any “tutor” that says reveal the card defeats the purpose in my opinion.
One really good gy tutor I can think of is ‘vile entomber’.
Next is a tribal tutor effect called pyre of heroes.
Lastly, a few honorable mentions. There are not less than $1 but all are less than $4 I believe.
Profane tutor
Long-term plans
Beseech the queen
Reshape is more like diabolic intent. 2 mana tutor with a sacrifice.
Aw, there are a few decent red tutors. Goblin Matron and Hoarding Dragon are pretty good, and dragonstorm is... funny. Sarkhan's triumph is only BARELY over a dollar.
There's a couple, we left off tribe specific tutors because we wanted to get a higher power level
The fact that Sarkhan's Triumph is still over a dollar when it's so narrow kinda worries me. I guess people REALLY love their Dragons.
Special thanks to you
Solid list
Thanks Aaron!
What about zirilian he's pretty cheap
I know this is an old video but something I have noticed the nerds do is they tend to misquote card text. Fix thiis error !!!
Transmute, can't forget that dimir gold
Yeah transmute is great
I love neoform in my kedena deck
And in cst
What do you usually go grab with it?
@@NitpickingNerds seedborn, lab man, or thassas Oracle,
Wishclaw Talisman: search for Opposition Agent: play Opposition Agent
Opponent's later turn: you have the answer to a board state problem in your deck? Give me back the Wishclaw Talisman and I'll get it and play it. 😊
Boom!
These caerds are teh bamb!
Why is no one talking about the tension between these two
What kind of tension? Lol
@@NitpickingNerdsthe tension of Beezy always snapping at Joe! Lol idk if you guys are doing a bit, but it seems like you guys are always seeking to be better or smarter than the other. Like the whole episode Beezy was getting mad that Joe was reading more cards than him, and near the end Joe kinda flipped on Beezy! Reminds me of me and my friend, kind of competitive tension. Just something I picked up on.
Night dealings
Vidéo doesn’t work
pierre-olivier bourque pratte people are having issues on mobile. We are unsure how to fix this issue m. Thanks for the heads up.
Nitpicking Nerds wow thanks for the fast answer, really awesome. Btw loved your Ikoria commander videos, specially zaxara and kathril deck tech, made both deck from your list.
Wouldnt a gay tutor be a club or a "gaydar"?
Anyone else have issues getting this video to play
Still having issues?
Yea I’ve tried on and off WiFi. Strangely it’s just this video.
It gets awkward when you guys aren't in sync with each other, just saying
premium
Premium tutors? Premium content? Premium nerds?
@@NitpickingNerds yes
last
Not quite lol
First?
I think you missed by a hair
First
Boooooom
Why the fuck are these guys so cute?
That's not a budget video :)
What!? It literally is lol 😝
@@NitpickingNerds I was talking about the quality of the content, not about the theme of the content :D
Dudes, most of these cards should swap places with your unplayable card list, because a lot of these are trash, and a lot of the unplayables are bombs lmao 🤦♂️
LOL what's a Gay Tutor tutor for?