My father never touched alcohol or any drug and brags about never taking ANYTHING for decades, not even Tylenol for a headache or Tums for indigestion. He quite regularly mentions how he stopped taking Tums because he wanted to feel the effect of the bad food he ate instead of cover up the symptoms. He's 79 and in great physical health. He broke his back two years ago and has recovered fully. And oh yes, I forgot to mention. He could enter a competition for most abusive father of all time and probably win. He has zero friends, his children fear him and want nothing to do with him and none of his extended family talks to him ever. The point being that no one hates anyone for being an addict. We hate people for being assholes. However, I do understand the confusion and that it's VERY difficult to break through. Because if you experienced a childhood where your father became a monster when he drank, you will naturally blame the alcohol. You'll assume that your dad was a good guy and that if only he didn't have alcohol running through his blood, he would have treated you better. However, MY experience tells me that there are some people that SHOULD drink every now and then to relieve their tension. I am nearly certain that if my dad drank alcohol, things would have been better. They couldn't have been worse! The point is that he never had the thought "Well Jesus fuck me, I've destroyed another part of my children's souls. I need a drink". If he gave a shit, he probably would have hit the bottle. But he didn't give a shit so he didn't.
That’s sad. He sounds like a controlling old arsehole. I however beg to Feiffer as my dad was an arsehole and an alcoholic who was a bully and cruel, selfish, nasty person, who got worse with alcohol inside him. Which was everyday. I think alcohol and shitty people don’t mix. But maybe if your dad was to let loose a bit and relax with alcohol he may not have been so uptight, more confident and maybe funny. It’s sad that these men get to the end of their lives and have done nothing but cause pain to others and never added anything positive into this world. Hugs to you. Move forward, raise your boys to respect others, to show their emotions and to be themselves without expectations. My sons are awesome. I changed the cycle of abuse and I’m So proud of myself. However I did have a drinking problem lol not now though.
That’s a very interesting perceptive I haven’t considered before. If your dad actually felt the guilt of the trauma he dished out then he may of used drugs to escape it. Drugs are one of the biggest scape goats in society and many addicts are pacifistic creatures that only wish to escape their pain.
Ok I’ve scanned through the comment section. There’s a huge misunderstanding. The point is not that heroin is good or bad. There is no morality being taken by Rogan or Hamilton. What they are addressing is the criminalisation of drug addiction. And the hypocrisy of the laws that are being made. They are are advocating for personal responsibility and reasonable laws which aim to address addiction not throwing people into jail. Addiction is the issue not the drug. Because there are plenty of people who can very successful use even heroin responsibly and without addiction.
@@jonathanw8380 then don't do heroin. Be a grownup and take responsibility for your own actions. Big Brother shouldn't tell the entire population what they can and can't do with their bodies, because you lack self control.
@@jonathanw8380 You can't even buy alcohol OTC at Wallgreens. What about someone who says if they drank they woudln't stop until they died (aka an alcoholic)? Should alcohol be illegal? Your argument is so dumb it's like you haven't even watched the video you're commenting on.
@@Dom-xi8je you are an addict! The difference between you and dr heart is he can stop without a problem! You clearly did struggle! It wasn't what you were using but you! You are an addict and it's you that needs therapy! There is a difference and you should know!
@Mike Rich considering you know zero about addiction! most soldiers in Vietnam were using heroin, the government believed there would be an epidemic of drugged up soldiers returning home! but nearly all and i mean 95% just stopped using when they got home! it is a matter of record! read the book *chasing the scream* which is about addiction and how government misdirected the public on how addiction works!
Totally agree, but many of these consequences are more of a tax than anything else. The stereotypical heroin user is known as a junkie who cant function on a daily basis yet the facts actually show most hard drug users have jobs, families and they pay their taxes the issue comes from the prohibition of illicit drugs and who is profiting from them. Most crime involving drugs is only done because of the terrible outlets they have to get it from. I'm all for consequences and taking responsibility, but lets not pretend that our justice system is all for helping people its basically a way to gain free labor and make money by taxing addicts and it sure as hell isn't setup to actually help people get off drugs. Its main goal is to insure they never get off them and the revolving door continues. At the same time our own government was at war with drugs they used military soldiers and equipment to protect poppy fields in the middle east and to help them ship raw product. Do you honestly believe the US just magically has ended up as the worlds largest buyer of illegal drugs and our government doesn't have their hands in that honey pot? Yes these drugs have consequences especially in daily life and shouldn't be promoted, yet pharmaceutical company's are able to create whatever they want and prescribe them like candy and people justify their addiction to pills because they got it from a Dr and pretend that illegal drug users are somehow beneath them. Justification is like masturbation in the end your only screwing yourself.
@Robo Bongo we must learn the difference between a “junkie”/abuser and a responsible user. Just as you can responsibly drink alcohol(which is just as hard a drug).
@Robo Bongo sounds great, I think people who post comments on youtube should have kids taken away. Serious question, So who decides who rules YOUR life? Because for certain YOU bear the consequences of how your life is lived, so shouldn't you be responsible for choosing how you live?
It's sort of like Christians claiming that because Government made gay marriage legal there are more Gay people since they think it's acceptable now. I am not gay because some pastor or fake book told me to not be gay.
Theres something great about watching two interviews chat. no talking over one another, they each let the other finish their points, they don't fly off topic. I stopped eating my steak to type this comment that's how much it means to me.
Who ain't had one? I guess he needs a meeting with Bill. Really? That's the direction people are POINTED on now. A freaking witch hunt with no witches. Perhaps CNN will make you feel warmer with ...idk ... Anderson? I was on a drip 18 days. Bad shape. Saw stuff , hallucinating, name it. I rolled in dead and they saved my life . Yep, I said it. I was as fu**** up as Hogan's goat. Sometimes it is needed. That was prolly 30 years ago. Don't do it now. Never have. It's easier to be an armchair quarterback than get in the trenches. I went to private schools, modest upbringing, been shot twice and stabbed in the heart with a fillet knife. Had 12 broken bones- all from physical confrontation. I've seen more carnage than a seasoned combat vet. I was dumb as a youngster but ya gotta be tough if you're gonna be dumb. Ya know what? ...it's easy to sit back and form an UNbiased opinion ...when ya don't know sh** from apple butter. He likes hallucinagens. As does every weed smoker ... obviously. He doesn't like opiates. He makes a couple million dollars a year. Why would he even have to bullshit. And that's not rhetorical..
Former heroin addict. Started just sniffing it to forget I lost the girl I was in love with for 10 years and it worked... too well. Was shooting up everyday for years till I figured my shit out. It may sound fucked up and I would never recommend it to anyone but I still think heroin saved my life cause I was absolutely on the path to suicide if I didn't self medicate and drive my attention in a different direction. I see it as the equivalent of being put into a medically induced coma. Huge difference of course cause I caused so much damage while I was "medicating" to myself and others but the end result was the same, I didn't die and I no longer want to. Clean 6 years now and even in my darkest moments I don't think about using. It's about confronting the reason you were running from the problem in the first place and if you never do that you'll always be vulnerable to relapse. Stigmatizing heroin will never fix the problem but only serve to keep the ones affected in the dark. The ones affected aren't just the users, it's everyone that knows them aswell.
Love this comment, I commented something sort of similar. Opiates help me immensely be a normal person. It’s also insanely good for anxiety which I probably would have committed suicide if I hadn’t found comfort in opiates. It was the only thing I had for years that kept me sane.
Same goes for the sober person, church flaunting type who has insane road rage and an anger issue. It just comes down to accountability. Some can handle their liquor (or drug), some can't.
But do you hate me also for being an alcoholic? I’m guessing not, which means that being an alcoholic can’t be the deciding factor on why you hate anybody. I’m sorry, I have a fucked up family too, and my parents were sober. It’s just nit picky word play but it’s important. You don’t hate your dad for being a drunk, you hate him for the way he behaves when he is drunk. If you simply hated him for being drunk, bars and liquor stores should give you a stroke.
@@pirritube5426 yea that’s definitely the context he meant to address but essentially it goes for all drugs(even alcohol). We don’t hate alcoholics for being alcoholics, some alcoholics die of old age and a saint. Some rape their kids for 12 years and brutally murder their wife. Alcoholism does not create a cookie cutter example of a deadbeat lowlife. At best it exacerbates what’s already there. It’s a mental health issue that we’re really discussing, or even just our lack of community. People act shitty because everyone treated them shitty their whole life.(I understand that is not absolute, some people are just shitty, don’t nit pick)
They decrminalized drugs in Oregon a few weeks ago, and today I drove past multiple addicts, at multiple homeless camps, that were jamming out to music that wasn't even playing...
@@larrytate1657 Yeah, it did & apparently your entitled to dictating how long someone should be on this world for regardlesss of their own free-agency are you?
Except it isn’t lmao, the consequences and addictive nature of heroin are far greater than music. It’s like comparing a fucking game of capture the flag to world war 2, fundamentally similar sure ig, but ur an idiot if you compare them
Hamilton spoke well here. We need to legalize ALL drugs. Focus on harm reduction instead abstinence. Make sure people have pure substances and make rehabilitation for addicts easily accessible and encouraged.
Libertarian views finally voiced properly and intelligentially. I don't need the government to protect me from myself. All these laws are used for selective enforcement and power over people through the fear of prosecution.
They're to protect the good from the bad. Big difference. Junkies do horrible shit to get their fix. People can't drink and drive so that they protect the sober drivers.
I'm and LCSW (licensed and qualified health professional in the field of behavioral heath and participated in social research for yrs at a SUNY school). Additionally, I am a L-CASAC (qualified and licensed substance use disorder counselor) in NYS. Ive worked in drug and alcohol for about 9 yrs; 5 yrs as a counselor and 4 yrs as a clinical supervisor. I welcome any discussions regarding the legalization of heroin, meth and cocaine.
Our drug laws in this country are cruel, unusual, nonsensical and horrendously unjust in almost every way. The penalties for mere possession, without intention to sell, of most drugs here in Ohio are mind-blowing.
@@robronald354 No mate. Stop reading and listening to right-wing lunatics who prey on fears. Muslims make up 5% of the population and the vast majority of those are regular folks who do good, not zealous nutcases.
Big difference between a middle aged college professor who sniffs heroin on the weekends for giggles and a young person from a broken home who injects heroin in a door way of a run down building.
Yeah - the difference is literally socioeconomic status caused by the government over hundreds of years which now continues to exacerbate the problem via the drug war.
The difference often gets vaguer as you go along, the point is not the successful heroin addict professor. The point is that the drug did not put either of them in the situation they’re in. It’s a tough one, seriously, I understand the immediate want to respond and say “well if he had never done heroin he wouldn’t be addicted” but again this is irrelevant, he is addicted and may have a lot to offer to his community(basically everyone’s favorite musician was on hard drugs). Now just take deep breath and listen, we have to fully legalize all drugs to reduce addiction and overdose rates. We open heroin clinics, where you get a safe clean medically tested dose of heroin, there’s a small catch, you now have to leave a go work somewhere. Highway trash cleanup, shelters, basically what we have prisoners do. For the addicts doing well we try to get them a job at goodwill or maybe even fast food. Trying to avoid stressful environments but the main idea is to give them purpose for they day. So that when some treats them like a shitty filthy food for nothin drug addict, they can say “hey man I cleaned up 10 miles on I-24 yesterday, go lick dog nuts”. This sounds like a shitty D.A.R.E. ad but it matters, a lot of the reasons addicts remain addicts ironically is that they are shameful of being an addict and basically stuck being a bum because you can get a job high and you can’t get a job sick. Some alcoholics die when they stop and are on the streets. Sometimes even with food and a house that shit can kill you. The final and main reason we need to open addict clinics is to prevent overdoses. The illegal drug trade will be severely crippled by pharmaceutical grade narcotics. Potentially saving millions of lives for our neighbors south of the border.(the cartels’ resistance needs to be handled carefully, cuz they’re gonna be pissed). If you think this is all just great in theory, go ask Portugal, they had people ODing hourly in places like public parks and train stops, shooting up in the neck with kids watching. The next year 0 overdoses…. 0. It was a national crisis one year, the next year not one single recorded overdose. I don’t care how different or big America is, if it halted a thriving heroin trade and usage for an entire country then we should take note…. My family has no idea I was meth addict, I crawled out of that pit alone, because i was embarrassed… My family would have undoubtably helped tremendously but I was to ashamed to tell them and it took longer to stop and it was harder. Give addicts a purpose, half of us only got started cuz its a small town and "there aint shit better to do".
@@vibinwpsilocybin1424 it would, if that statement was accurate. There’s so much partisan hate in DC right now that any criminal behavior would be spotlighted right away. It’s not like the 50s or even 70s were they would work together to cover that kinda stuff up and reciprocate cover ups back and forth regardless of which party your in. Now they not only would never participate in a cover up for “the other side”, they actively hunt down crimes to expose. Anything to get food for the political ad machines, and nothing feeds those machines more than a juicy arrest or God willing a cover up. Shoot, just look at Gov Douchebag in NY. Both parties are beating the snot out of him right now.
LEGALIZE, IF NOT THEN AT LEAST DECRIMINALIZE!!! SAVE SOO MANY LIVES AND STOP THE CRIMINAL UNDERWORLD! TEACH YOUR CHILDREN ABOUT DRUGS CAUSE "JUST SAY NO" WILL NEVER WORK AND IS A LOAD OF CRAP.
You think China and other countries send opium and fentanyl to our country cause they want to make a buck and help us out? LOL! Wake up you fools, doing anything BUT stopping drugs with just make future generations worse and worse. WOW people are getting dumber, WOW!
Decriminalization wouldn't stop the "criminal underworld", drugs would still be sold by the same people who sell them now. Legalization is the best bet, but will never happen in our lifetime.
@@WHiT3_SHAD0W wouldn't completely stop it but putting a dent in it is better than them continuing to get more money. Damn y'all must be dealers lmao pissed much
@@WHiT3_SHAD0W Yea, legalize all drugs some day and things will get so much better, teach your kids that someday, if you even have any. What a stupid comment....
Hamilton Morris is so much more than the sum of his parts. Glad that some other folks recognize what a thoughtful, unique, and intelligent individual he is. Guys like Hamilton should be in government informing public policy. Brother, the world is a better place with you in it! MAD LOVE FROM BEAUTIFUL VICTORIA BC, CANADA
I feel Joe on the morphine thing, I had my first kidney stone and thought something was trying to claw it's way out of me for 6+ hours before I finally got to the ER and the first shot of morphine felt like a rush of warmth and and numbness that took all the pain away...
This I relate to so much. Being a runner my whole life, I always had overweight people telling me it was bad for my knees. Running is bad for your knees if you run too much. If you run over 30 miles a week constantly you can have heart fatigue, get tears in tissues, and even get stress fractures in your bones. That's when it's bad for your knees. I only run 15 miles a week, that's it. But when people would see me run they'd always always tell me this thinking they saved my life or something. To tell the truth I think I was going to outlive them, because they were so afraid to exercise.
@@derekdeadlifts2986 agreed but! lol morphine is still a great way to treat pain. When controlled and under supervision. It will make some folks nauseous but that’s why you get zofran with it lol
First time I ever got morphine I was 12 yrs old. I snapped my leg in a bicycle accident. I was so damn high I told my dad "I'm good, i can walk out of here." He had to hold me down and remind me I had a severely broken leg lol.
I love Carl Hart and Hamilton Morris. People should not be stigmatized for any drug. Stigmatization of drug users makes things worse and people don't get help when they need it. People tell you, "You're a good person, you don't do drugs". WTF, I saw it being a nurse, I saw other nurses verbally abusing addicts and telling them "Well that's what you get, should have thought about before you did it." WTF. This was in an acute rehab center!
That's what they are refusing to acknowledge. Alcoholics, as well as a bunch of other drugs are extremely addictive. Why legalize a hard drug that you know is highly addictive. People were just criticizing pharmaceutical companies for the opioid epidemic.. Now you are okay with heroin use? Smh
Because of social, and family issues Laura. That is the problem here, as long as that happens (which will continue to) there will be addiction and alcoholism
@@marcoervin7324 Because if you legalize it, I : - People will be able to do it safely, meaning overdose deaths and secundary deaths (disease, infected drug which leads to lots of deaths) would decrease substantially (even if use increases) - You would hit strongly criminal organizations and end multiple. And unless the state regulates it too much, end it in general (which would end in less kids doing drugs because schools wouldnt be a sell place) - You would heavily diminish State spending, which is great for everyone. Think about all the extra police, extra missions and materials, extra personnel, the prisons, etc..
And Laura, did you have philosophy in class? Just because A can do something doesnt mean B can. If A can do it and B cant, you cant still say A was able to do it. And considering the trillion dollar market drugs are, its a fact most people buying dont have their "lives ruined". If only fucked up people did drugs you wouldnt have a trillion dollar market.
I can’t express enough how absolutely correct Joe and Hamilton are in this clip! I wish our leaders and our society as a whole was wise enough to use this wisdom. Personal Freedom is what it’s all about.
This was a great podcast. As a long time user and now 11 yrs sober he was more spot on about what to do and treatments then any other doctor I have seen. Tapering is the best way but you’ll probably always go thru withdrawal? I have, some not so bad some you wanna die. I still take Xanax but since being in Cali cannabis has gotten me to not need it as much. Also the mental issues are spot on, mind over matter in a way. Breathing helps along with meditation when it comes to anxiety. Spotify needs comments btw. Lol
"That's my freedom" Really eye opening when you state it so simply. The governments limit your freedoms to "protect" you. But in fact they end up oppressing you.
Joe and Hamilton together!!! You two are freaking amazing. Thank you both so much for everything that you're doing to help spread the word of truth in this sadly misinformed world we live in.
As someone in long term recovery from opiates specifically - I can say for sure that heroine doesn’t make you “more compassionate” . Quite the contrary - heroine literally makes you apathetic, unable to feel the same level of compassion, concern, or interest that you would feel for others when sober. Heroine numbs you, not only physically, but also emotionally. This is a well known fact.
Not true at all. An addict who abuses the drug that is true. Someone who recreationally uses it can be much more compassionate,loving happy etc. it’s when you abuse it daily that those effects subside and you don’t get to that anymore you just get normal.
No. Addiction does that to you. When I used opiates socially they made me far more compassionate and interested, but once I became an addict all I cared about was not letting my high get ruined and and THATS when I became apethetic and unable to feel
The interesting thing from a psychological point is that if you choose to do it you learn and educate yourself and manage it. If your friends or doctor tell you. No education. It doesn’t seem to ever end well.
People forget that heroin isn't just mentally addictive. It is physically addictive... YOU CAN DIE FROM NOT JUST OVERDOSING BUT FROM WITHDRAWALS AS WELL... smh
He mentions that you can see it for free on Spotify. I have it already, but check in to it. Might be a trial, but that works if you cancel Within the time frame :-)
@@supermotos you are so correct. It’s funny. I was going to say to get Spotify same as Netflix, Serius or whatever other subscription people have. Funny how I instinctively added the free trial bit to keep the criticism to a minimum.
They don’t do a lot of drugs, they think they do a lot of drugs. If you truly do “a lot”, you don’t want anyone knowing, cuz you’ll fuck something up and they’ll know why.
Smoking a bunch of weed is not “doing a lot of drugs”. Binge drinking every Saturday with a line of coke split between all seven of you is not a lot of drugs. Ask them whens the last time they did “a lot” without anyone else partaking for a week straight the only correct answer answer to “a lot” would be “all of last year”
You ain't sh**ing about that. If it ain't bolted down, they steal it. If it is, they slobber on it and try to take it apart. If it has a catilletic converter, they'll saw it off and sell it. Yep, mankind is evolving. 🤣 It blows my mind to see how they can take 4-6 ingredients with crossbones on it and make something good out of it. Ain't figured that one out yet. 🤔
I was medically dependent on Oxycodone and Methadone for 20 years and came through it in good health. The biggest problem was being chained to a pill bottle. My problems didn’t begin until all the pain clinics got shut down and I became addicted to heroin. I definitely don’t recommend it, especially under the present legal circumstances. Yes it is awesome at first but when it becomes habitual, the effect is not so great. After 5 years I got clean and intend to stay that way. While I was getting clean I was in with mostly alcoholics and they were some seriously addled folks. I am healthy today mainly because I always used sterile technique and was able to avoid a mortal overdose. Except for the risk of overdose, heroin itself is relatively nontoxic. It’s injection and it’s risk from dirty injection equipment of pericarditis, hepatitis, AIDS etc that will get you in the end. Snorting heroin is unpleasant and will fuck up your sinuses mainly from all the lactose that is used as a cut nowadays. It would have been worse when quinine was the cut of choice.
Credit to you for having some perspective, I find ex drug addicts to be some of the consistently most anti science, reactionary, obstacles to improving addiction treatment and drug policy of any group of people around. Despite the objectively horrible rates of success of 12 step models I can understand their attachment to that if they feel it was personally life changing for them, but their overwhelming support for criminalization is just mind boggling to me. The number of stories where incarceration led them to sustained abstinence is almost nil. And even in the few stories I’ve heard where that is the case according to them, it was usually incarceration for a crime they did that was not possession or distribution and would be illegal anyways!
Just remember, Lemmy did a LOT of speed (including meth), drank a bottle of whiskey a day, did some other drugs and kept playing Motörhead gigs til he died aged 70.... You are not Lemmy.
If it works for you , brings enjoyment and positivity and you can keep it in relative control then go for it , no one has the right to tell you what or what not to put into your own body
Heroin and dilaudid almost killed me and did kill my best friend. I'm so blessed to be alive and have a great family. The VA and weed really helped me. My best friends family doesn't look at him as brave they just miss him.
I am currently reading Ioan Grillo’s new book “Blood, Gun, Money”. It is about the iron river of guns going from the USA and south across the border. Very interesting and easy to read.
I love this guy, Hamilton Morris!! I was wondering when he'd ever come back on the show. He's so fn cool in my book, especially when he inhaled Xenon gas, that video was just cool. He's definitely a pioneer especially when it comes to psychedelics.
The war on booze started way before that... More like the 1800...🤔 And it only got bad because the human race can't maintain self control... And the government was and is the ones bringing in the drugs Its not really the same at all... Just saying
A year? Joe rogan was a household name ten years ago. If he came around the last 2 years... fuck that guy. He came around when my generation needed “joe rogan”. Welcome aboard
Embrace the knowledge and education not hate or negativities on miseducation. Giving 8 years of respect of the game and knowledge on multiple areas. And Joey Diaz
This is why i openly oppose medical marijuana.not that it doent have medicinal value, but saying that it is "medicine" implies that there must be SOMETHING " wrong" with people that use it, and that it should be regulated to insure it is used " properly".
he said that being transparent about drug use is brave when you can use it in moderation. there’s a fine line between occasional drug use and being a junkie. you and your friends clearly didn’t practice moderation. drugs aren’t for everyone
He's not brave because he does herion. He is openly admitting he takes an illegal substance at risk of his job for the sake of what he considers activism. I'm not sayings its brave im just making the distinction.
We scream "freedom" from the rooftops, brag about it like it's a trophy but when it comes to drugs all that goes out the window. When you limit freedom you are not free.
I gave up on JRE on Spotify. Every time i try to watch a video i usually just exit out after the third or fourth unskippable ad that Joe said ruins the flow of conversation
Mine always play right at the beginning? I've seen people talking about that but ever sense I started watching JRE on spotify, all the ads just play in sequence at the beginning? I actually like it that way, just start it and come back in 10m
I wonder if he knows about NWA and the history of Rap. I found a lot of connections between his analogy and the government trying to outlaw rap because it was too “provocative”
The conservatory I study at has a music therapy major and all of the students are so so soooo cool. What they are doing can really change the medical field in the next 10-20 years
Have you tried? No listening to music of all forms, that means no movies also cause there is music in most scenes, no TV shows or ads or podcasts with music in it, no radio, no more watching your little brother trying to play guitar, no... We are nowadays so fed up with music all the time, I bet if you really would try to stop for say a month, you would be very eager to relapse. And if you do, then you would get the shivers from listening to fuckin Rihanna... 😅
Congratulations to drugs for winning the war on drugs
GAGAGAGAGAGA!!! I want to cut my toe nails... NEVER! I am the feet TH-camr. Thanks for being a fan, dear sim
Lmfaooo, killed me.
With a huge assist by generation goof.
Lol djfnfi
Hell yeah!!!
“When exposing a crime is treated as committing a crime, you are being ruled by criminals!” - Edward Snowden
Edward Snowden warned us ☝️☝️☝️
Nice get yo!
Edward Snowden may have said that but he didn't come up with it.
Hmm I guess. It’s his life not ours
And what the fuck has that got to do with anything said in this clip or even this entire episode?
My father never touched alcohol or any drug and brags about never taking ANYTHING for decades, not even Tylenol for a headache or Tums for indigestion. He quite regularly mentions how he stopped taking Tums because he wanted to feel the effect of the bad food he ate instead of cover up the symptoms. He's 79 and in great physical health. He broke his back two years ago and has recovered fully. And oh yes, I forgot to mention. He could enter a competition for most abusive father of all time and probably win. He has zero friends, his children fear him and want nothing to do with him and none of his extended family talks to him ever. The point being that no one hates anyone for being an addict. We hate people for being assholes.
However, I do understand the confusion and that it's VERY difficult to break through. Because if you experienced a childhood where your father became a monster when he drank, you will naturally blame the alcohol. You'll assume that your dad was a good guy and that if only he didn't have alcohol running through his blood, he would have treated you better. However, MY experience tells me that there are some people that SHOULD drink every now and then to relieve their tension. I am nearly certain that if my dad drank alcohol, things would have been better. They couldn't have been worse!
The point is that he never had the thought "Well Jesus fuck me, I've destroyed another part of my children's souls. I need a drink". If he gave a shit, he probably would have hit the bottle. But he didn't give a shit so he didn't.
Your dad sound like a psychopath
I love this perspective my guy. Makes alot of sense. Evil seeds grow naturally.
That’s sad. He sounds like a controlling old arsehole. I however beg to Feiffer as my dad was an arsehole and an alcoholic who was a bully and cruel, selfish, nasty person, who got worse with alcohol inside him. Which was everyday. I think alcohol and shitty people don’t mix. But maybe if your dad was to let loose a bit and relax with alcohol he may not have been so uptight, more confident and maybe funny. It’s sad that these men get to the end of their lives and have done nothing but cause pain to others and never added anything positive into this world. Hugs to you. Move forward, raise your boys to respect others, to show their emotions and to be themselves without expectations. My sons are awesome. I changed the cycle of abuse and I’m
So proud of myself. However I did have a drinking problem lol not now though.
Nicely said, Tim. And blessings to ya
That’s a very interesting perceptive I haven’t considered before. If your dad actually felt the guilt of the trauma he dished out then he may of used drugs to escape it. Drugs are one of the biggest scape goats in society and many addicts are pacifistic creatures that only wish to escape their pain.
Ok I’ve scanned through the comment section. There’s a huge misunderstanding. The point is not that heroin is good or bad. There is no morality being taken by Rogan or Hamilton. What they are addressing is the criminalisation of drug addiction. And the hypocrisy of the laws that are being made. They are are advocating for personal responsibility and reasonable laws which aim to address addiction not throwing people into jail. Addiction is the issue not the drug. Because there are plenty of people who can very successful use even heroin responsibly and without addiction.
If I took heroin I would never stop especially if you could get it OTC at walgreens.
@@jonathanw8380 then don't do heroin. Be a grownup and take responsibility for your own actions. Big Brother shouldn't tell the entire population what they can and can't do with their bodies, because you lack self control.
@@jonathanw8380 You can't even buy alcohol OTC at Wallgreens. What about someone who says if they drank they woudln't stop until they died (aka an alcoholic)? Should alcohol be illegal? Your argument is so dumb it's like you haven't even watched the video you're commenting on.
@@andremachado3831 gotem
Pretty much yea
Carl hart helped me realize that I could quit the hard drugs, and that just because I was an addict doesn't mean that I'm damaged goods for life.
Right on. I'm a few years off the junk. It's possible.
@@Dom-xi8je do you believe dr heart is an addict? Just because you use a drug doesn't make you an addict!
@@sirgaymeerkat1994 that's right! Just like having a few drinks on occasion didn't make you an alcoholic.
@@Dom-xi8je you are an addict! The difference between you and dr heart is he can stop without a problem! You clearly did struggle! It wasn't what you were using but you! You are an addict and it's you that needs therapy! There is a difference and you should know!
@Mike Rich considering you know zero about addiction! most soldiers in Vietnam were using heroin, the government believed there would be an epidemic of drugged up soldiers returning home! but nearly all and i mean 95% just stopped using when they got home! it is a matter of record! read the book *chasing the scream* which is about addiction and how government misdirected the public on how addiction works!
Do what you want but be aware of the consequences and take accountability.
🙏
People don't and thats the problem.
Totally agree, but many of these consequences are more of a tax than anything else. The stereotypical heroin user is known as a junkie who cant function on a daily basis yet the facts actually show most hard drug users have jobs, families and they pay their taxes the issue comes from the prohibition of illicit drugs and who is profiting from them. Most crime involving drugs is only done because of the terrible outlets they have to get it from. I'm all for consequences and taking responsibility, but lets not pretend that our justice system is all for helping people its basically a way to gain free labor and make money by taxing addicts and it sure as hell isn't setup to actually help people get off drugs. Its main goal is to insure they never get off them and the revolving door continues. At the same time our own government was at war with drugs they used military soldiers and equipment to protect poppy fields in the middle east and to help them ship raw product. Do you honestly believe the US just magically has ended up as the worlds largest buyer of illegal drugs and our government doesn't have their hands in that honey pot? Yes these drugs have consequences especially in daily life and shouldn't be promoted, yet pharmaceutical company's are able to create whatever they want and prescribe them like candy and people justify their addiction to pills because they got it from a Dr and pretend that illegal drug users are somehow beneath them. Justification is like masturbation in the end your only screwing yourself.
@Robo Bongo we must learn the difference between a “junkie”/abuser and a responsible user. Just as you can responsibly drink alcohol(which is just as hard a drug).
@Robo Bongo sounds great, I think people who post comments on youtube should have kids taken away. Serious question, So who decides who rules YOUR life? Because for certain YOU bear the consequences of how your life is lived, so shouldn't you be responsible for choosing how you live?
If only the breakfast club gave him this much respect, Joe, you're that dude. Thank you for always being a kind ear to your guest.
Who gives a fuck about the breakfast club lol
@@vicenteramirez9545 obviously you do. If you have to comment about it.
Hamilton went on the breakfast club? Is it on youtube?
@@Chrisrdr No, Carl Hart went on the Breakfast Club
The breakfast club is lbgtqp only
I've never taken heroin and it has nothing to do with the law.
I've never used cocaine because I got a bean stuck in my nose as a kid and it freaked me the fuck out.
So now I dont put shit up my nose. 🤣😂
You're right. To most users the local drug laws are irrelevant.
It's sort of like Christians claiming that because Government made gay marriage legal there are more Gay people since they think it's acceptable now. I am not gay because some pastor or fake book told me to not be gay.
Your really missing out never doing heroin.
@@jeffreyval9665 no just not stupid
Theres something great about watching two interviews chat. no talking over one another, they each let the other finish their points, they don't fly off topic. I stopped eating my steak to type this comment that's how much it means to me.
Two things are for certain in life, taxes and joe Rogan talking about his morphine drip in hospital when he had knee surgery
justifying his opioid use. he completely missed the point.
Sweet Jesus 🤣🤣
@@tmwall25 joe said it before you tool
Who ain't had one? I guess he needs a meeting with Bill. Really? That's the direction people are POINTED on now. A freaking witch hunt with no witches. Perhaps CNN will make you feel warmer with ...idk ... Anderson? I was on a drip 18 days. Bad shape. Saw stuff , hallucinating, name it. I rolled in dead and they saved my life . Yep, I said it. I was as fu**** up as Hogan's goat. Sometimes it is needed. That was prolly 30 years ago. Don't do it now. Never have. It's easier to be an armchair quarterback than get in the trenches. I went to private schools, modest upbringing, been shot twice and stabbed in the heart with a fillet knife. Had 12 broken bones- all from physical confrontation. I've seen more carnage than a seasoned combat vet. I was dumb as a youngster but ya gotta be tough if you're gonna be dumb. Ya know what? ...it's easy to sit back and form an UNbiased opinion ...when ya don't know sh** from apple butter. He likes hallucinagens. As does every weed smoker ... obviously. He doesn't like opiates. He makes a couple million dollars a year. Why would he even have to bullshit. And that's not rhetorical..
Bing bing bing
Former heroin addict. Started just sniffing it to forget I lost the girl I was in love with for 10 years and it worked... too well. Was shooting up everyday for years till I figured my shit out. It may sound fucked up and I would never recommend it to anyone but I still think heroin saved my life cause I was absolutely on the path to suicide if I didn't self medicate and drive my attention in a different direction. I see it as the equivalent of being put into a medically induced coma. Huge difference of course cause I caused so much damage while I was "medicating" to myself and others but the end result was the same, I didn't die and I no longer want to. Clean 6 years now and even in my darkest moments I don't think about using. It's about confronting the reason you were running from the problem in the first place and if you never do that you'll always be vulnerable to relapse. Stigmatizing heroin will never fix the problem but only serve to keep the ones affected in the dark. The ones affected aren't just the users, it's everyone that knows them aswell.
Love this comment, I commented something sort of similar. Opiates help me immensely be a normal person. It’s also insanely good for anxiety which I probably would have committed suicide if I hadn’t found comfort in opiates. It was the only thing I had for years that kept me sane.
this makes me interested in opiates and getting of weed
@@tomzeroonezero what a cool guy thing to say, you must be really popular with the edgy teenagers in your high school.
“We don’t hate people for being alcoholics”
Yeah, unless he’s your dad. An abusive drunk. Same goes for a mother strung out on heroin.
Same goes for the sober person, church flaunting type who has insane road rage and an anger issue. It just comes down to accountability. Some can handle their liquor (or drug), some can't.
I think he means how we praise people for getting drunk every week but drugs are stigmatized
Yea the point is that what is hating them going to do...they have a problem and need help not hurt
But do you hate me also for being an alcoholic? I’m guessing not, which means that being an alcoholic can’t be the deciding factor on why you hate anybody. I’m sorry, I have a fucked up family too, and my parents were sober. It’s just nit picky word play but it’s important. You don’t hate your dad for being a drunk, you hate him for the way he behaves when he is drunk. If you simply hated him for being drunk, bars and liquor stores should give you a stroke.
@@pirritube5426 yea that’s definitely the context he meant to address but essentially it goes for all drugs(even alcohol). We don’t hate alcoholics for being alcoholics, some alcoholics die of old age and a saint. Some rape their kids for 12 years and brutally murder their wife. Alcoholism does not create a cookie cutter example of a deadbeat lowlife. At best it exacerbates what’s already there. It’s a mental health issue that we’re really discussing, or even just our lack of community. People act shitty because everyone treated them shitty their whole life.(I understand that is not absolute, some people are just shitty, don’t nit pick)
Absolutely everybody has their own drug of choice!!...
From adrenaline to heroin we all have our vices
I like weed...
and mushrooms
@@matj3296 never tried mushrooms how it make you feel?
@@rubenmartinez1140 It feels like universal consciousness.
I love cyanide
*In another universe*
Parents :you see those homeless people there?...they listened to Music.
*they listened to Jazz*
funniest comment on here !
*INJECTS PURE JAZZ INTO MY VEINS*
@@ImDougDimmadome dude, don't do that. There are long-term effects if you do that.
They decrminalized drugs in Oregon a few weeks ago, and today I drove past multiple addicts, at multiple homeless camps, that were jamming out to music that wasn't even playing...
as someone whos on lsd right now, i like that music analogy a lot lol
Can you give me one please?
@@Nutterbutter123 one lsd?
@@michaeloffringa5763 or 2 lsd
@@Nutterbutter123 a more usual unit for measuring lsd is micrograms lol but 2 lsd sounds good
@@michaeloffringa5763 well I smoke 2 marijuanas daily, had to cut back from 4. So do you recommend one or two lsd for a first timer?
“I’m the one that’s got to die when it’s time for me to die, so let me live my life the way that I want to” - Jimi Hendrix
And that mind set took him young,
@@larrytate1657 his choice
@@larrytate1657 Yeah, it did & apparently your entitled to dictating how long someone should be on this world for regardlesss of their own free-agency are you?
@@SainnQ knowing what happened dont u like they would have chosen differently? Come on man
But wear your mask...🤔
His music analogy was perfect for his point.
I guess so
Except it isn’t lmao, the consequences and addictive nature of heroin are far greater than music. It’s like comparing a fucking game of capture the flag to world war 2, fundamentally similar sure ig, but ur an idiot if you compare them
@@hcole3201 but it’s not the government’s responsibility to tell me i can’t do heroin if i want to, even if it’s terrible for my health.
@@hcole3201 its an analogy, not meant to literally compare what's more worse or addictive. 🤦♂️ missed the point what he was saying.
@@hcole3201 I've tried heroin and music. Music is essential and I wouldn't want to live without it. Opiates are fucking lame and can make you puke wtf
Hamilton is honestly my favorite guest on JRE, I honestly think him and Ed are just the best man. Glad to see him back on
Love Hamilton too, but who's Ed?
Yea Ed who
@@thirdi5108 Calderon ?
His show is also really cool
@@dcguyps3 He's incredible.
Joe those little morphine buttons have a timed restriction on how often you can press it. You weren't getting any higher lmao.
Right , they even have alerts on them if you keep trying to press it before the time set on the machine
I mean it still could have been awesome
Joe is so brave. So brave.
Placebo is 40%
The pump can give you base rate too.
I could listen to Hamilton talk for hours. Definitely one of my top 5 guests ever on Joe Rogan.
Absolutely
Hamilton spoke well here.
We need to legalize ALL drugs. Focus on harm reduction instead abstinence. Make sure people have pure substances and make rehabilitation for addicts easily accessible and encouraged.
💯
Legalise it, regulate it and tax it and make sure to keep it away from children and teens plus use the tax revenue to fund hospitals and rehab.
Bullshit
The Portuguese way!
@@mitchjames9350
No, abolish taxes and laws that restrict the freedoms of children. Children need drugs and guns more than anyone else.
Libertarian views finally voiced properly and intelligentially. I don't need the government to protect me from myself. All these laws are used for selective enforcement and power over people through the fear of prosecution.
Well said
Very true
I agree... but we all also have the right to health care
@@davidcoakley85 ; )
They're to protect the good from the bad. Big difference. Junkies do horrible shit to get their fix. People can't drink and drive so that they protect the sober drivers.
I own a firearm because it’s my freedom. It’s my choice as an adult.
firearm addiction can be fatal
@@josuemc93 sure can drain the bank lol
@@josuemc93 So can over eating
I'm and LCSW (licensed and qualified health professional in the field of behavioral heath and participated in social research for yrs at a SUNY school). Additionally, I am a L-CASAC (qualified and licensed substance use disorder counselor) in NYS. Ive worked in drug and alcohol for about 9 yrs; 5 yrs as a counselor and 4 yrs as a clinical supervisor. I welcome any discussions regarding the legalization of heroin, meth and cocaine.
Our drug laws in this country are cruel, unusual, nonsensical and horrendously unjust in almost every way. The penalties for mere possession, without intention to sell, of most drugs here in Ohio are mind-blowing.
Now imagine you can get stoned for cannabis in some Islamic country (pun not intended)
@@iliaantipin9919 which countries are those?
@@BuiltInBrooklynIslamic countries probably include the UK
@@robronald354 No mate. Stop reading and listening to right-wing lunatics who prey on fears. Muslims make up 5% of the population and the vast majority of those are regular folks who do good, not zealous nutcases.
Move or change it its are only hope.
Joe is trying to bait me to spotify with Hamilton now? Fighting dirty now, and it might've worked 😆
I said the same thing 😂💀 I was like damn now I have to download Spotify. 🔥🔥 fire name tho bro
Same here boss lmao 😜
Ive had it for years. Its the best music streaming
@Jay Dee they arent playing dirty. Its just business. Nothing is free
@@303TAG303 Spotify is free and doesn't have all the adds like youtube.
You guys have to watch the full thing on Spotify. So good!!
Imagine what a pub would look like if everyone in it was stoned rather than drunk.
You'd never hear about or witness a bar fight.
Aussie man reviews has the best bar fight. With comentary.
Certainly be fewer but you always get those wankers who just go out looking for fights regardless
I've been waiting for him to have Hamilton Morris on *AGAIN* forever
He already did
Yup this is his 2nd or 3rd time on the show
I know hes been on twice,, Should've said waiting for him to come BACK on
@@ryohio4706 ahhh
Same
very humble guy barely talked about his show which is a masterpiece
Big difference between a middle aged college professor who sniffs heroin on the weekends for giggles and a young person from a broken home who injects heroin in a door way of a run down building.
Big Difference between a wall Street Guy Losing 100k on Basketball Game and Some Middle Class guy losing his Child's College fund on the Ponies!
Yeah - the difference is literally socioeconomic status caused by the government over hundreds of years which now continues to exacerbate the problem via the drug war.
The difference often gets vaguer as you go along, the point is not the successful heroin addict professor. The point is that the drug did not put either of them in the situation they’re in. It’s a tough one, seriously, I understand the immediate want to respond and say “well if he had never done heroin he wouldn’t be addicted” but again this is irrelevant, he is addicted and may have a lot to offer to his community(basically everyone’s favorite musician was on hard drugs). Now just take deep breath and listen, we have to fully legalize all drugs to reduce addiction and overdose rates. We open heroin clinics, where you get a safe clean medically tested dose of heroin, there’s a small catch, you now have to leave a go work somewhere. Highway trash cleanup, shelters, basically what we have prisoners do. For the addicts doing well we try to get them a job at goodwill or maybe even fast food. Trying to avoid stressful environments but the main idea is to give them purpose for they day. So that when some treats them like a shitty filthy food for nothin drug addict, they can say “hey man I cleaned up 10 miles on I-24 yesterday, go lick dog nuts”. This sounds like a shitty D.A.R.E. ad but it matters, a lot of the reasons addicts remain addicts ironically is that they are shameful of being an addict and basically stuck being a bum because you can get a job high and you can’t get a job sick. Some alcoholics die when they stop and are on the streets. Sometimes even with food and a house that shit can kill you. The final and main reason we need to open addict clinics is to prevent overdoses. The illegal drug trade will be severely crippled by pharmaceutical grade narcotics. Potentially saving millions of lives for our neighbors south of the border.(the cartels’ resistance needs to be handled carefully, cuz they’re gonna be pissed). If you think this is all just great in theory, go ask Portugal, they had people ODing hourly in places like public parks and train stops, shooting up in the neck with kids watching. The next year 0 overdoses…. 0. It was a national crisis one year, the next year not one single recorded overdose. I don’t care how different or big America is, if it halted a thriving heroin trade and usage for an entire country then we should take note…. My family has no idea I was meth addict, I crawled out of that pit alone, because i was embarrassed… My family would have undoubtably helped tremendously but I was to ashamed to tell them and it took longer to stop and it was harder. Give addicts a purpose, half of us only got started cuz its a small town and "there aint shit better to do".
@@DStanford94 amen
@@zeusfist this guy gets it
Being on drugs isn’t always the problem, it’s when they run out and u can’t get it is when all the shit starts
So being dependent is a problem
@@mouwersor never knew I had a pill problem until I couldn’t get any, that’s when the bullshit started smh
Music doesn't have to be a medicine and the government doesn't need to be involved in OUR decision making process... Like get out of our lives
music will always be medicine to humans
Yea! Like get out of our lives and all the disgusting harmful things junkies do to people! Yea! Right on man!
@@KelticTim does it matter when we’re ruled by criminals
@@vibinwpsilocybin1424 it would, if that statement was accurate. There’s so much partisan hate in DC right now that any criminal behavior would be spotlighted right away. It’s not like the 50s or even 70s were they would work together to cover that kinda stuff up and reciprocate cover ups back and forth regardless of which party your in. Now they not only would never participate in a cover up for “the other side”, they actively hunt down crimes to expose. Anything to get food for the political ad machines, and nothing feeds those machines more than a juicy arrest or God willing a cover up. Shoot, just look at Gov Douchebag in NY. Both parties are beating the snot out of him right now.
@@KelticTim lmao the writings on the wall. Americans are politically obsessed , it’s saddening. It’s only going to get worse😂
“He enjoys heroine...... He sniffs it” I laughed so hard
It’s heroin
I didn't even know heroin was taken by snorting it.
why?
pulp fiction ?
Yeap commonly referred to as brown or yellow and is snorted or cooked like crack for injecting.
@The Phantom You can always smoke black tar if you didnt want to shoot it.
Thank you Hamilton for mentioning Music Therapy! Student here
Rogan has never clapped for someone on the show. Well done Hamilton.
I loved this interview
LEGALIZE, IF NOT THEN AT LEAST DECRIMINALIZE!!! SAVE SOO MANY LIVES AND STOP THE CRIMINAL UNDERWORLD! TEACH YOUR CHILDREN ABOUT DRUGS CAUSE "JUST SAY NO" WILL NEVER WORK AND IS A LOAD OF CRAP.
You think China and other countries send opium and fentanyl to our country cause they want to make a buck and help us out? LOL! Wake up you fools, doing anything BUT stopping drugs with just make future generations worse and worse. WOW people are getting dumber, WOW!
@Manuel Lopez Congrats, you can read at third grade level lol! your going places bud ;)
Decriminalization wouldn't stop the "criminal underworld", drugs would still be sold by the same people who sell them now.
Legalization is the best bet, but will never happen in our lifetime.
@@WHiT3_SHAD0W wouldn't completely stop it but putting a dent in it is better than them continuing to get more money. Damn y'all must be dealers lmao pissed much
@@WHiT3_SHAD0W Yea, legalize all drugs some day and things will get so much better, teach your kids that someday, if you even have any. What a stupid comment....
Hamilton Morris is so much more than the sum of his parts. Glad that some other folks recognize what a thoughtful, unique, and intelligent individual he is. Guys like Hamilton should be in government informing public policy. Brother, the world is a better place with you in it! MAD LOVE FROM BEAUTIFUL VICTORIA BC, CANADA
I feel Joe on the morphine thing, I had my first kidney stone and thought something was trying to claw it's way out of me for 6+ hours before I finally got to the ER and the first shot of morphine felt like a rush of warmth and and numbness that took all the pain away...
This I relate to so much. Being a runner my whole life, I always had overweight people telling me it was bad for my knees. Running is bad for your knees if you run too much. If you run over 30 miles a week constantly you can have heart fatigue, get tears in tissues, and even get stress fractures in your bones. That's when it's bad for your knees. I only run 15 miles a week, that's it. But when people would see me run they'd always always tell me this thinking they saved my life or something. To tell the truth I think I was going to outlive them, because they were so afraid to exercise.
I thought the same thing but now I have osteoarthritis and runners knee at 25 years old
I didnt know that you had to pace yourself. Im 26 too 210 lb ran 10-15 miles a week and i cant do that anymore
Try skateboarding...🤔
Joe “ I’ve never taken heroin, but I’ve had a morphine drip” Rogan
I snorted heroin once..also had a morphine drip.. a controlled dose of morphine was so much better lol
He was in the hospital man!
@@derekdeadlifts2986 agreed but! lol morphine is still a great way to treat pain. When controlled and under supervision. It will make some folks nauseous but that’s why you get zofran with it lol
Dilaudid is the best shit ever. It's stronger than morphine. I had it when I was in the hospital.
Has he said that before?
First time I ever got morphine I was 12 yrs old. I snapped my leg in a bicycle accident. I was so damn high I told my dad "I'm good, i can walk out of here." He had to hold me down and remind me I had a severely broken leg lol.
That music analogy is so simple, yet profoundly poignant. Hamilton is DOPE. Anything else is just drugs.
Anyone else taking a dump lol
Haha yes
Hahaha I’m about to now that everyone has left my shared office space for the day
Tear that shit up
Right here buddy
This shit made me laugh😏
Holly shit. Hamilton is back. I might need to check out Spotify.
Podcasts aren’t available to a shit ton of countries it’s a complete shambles
Hard pass
I love Carl Hart and Hamilton Morris. People should not be stigmatized for any drug. Stigmatization of drug users makes things worse and people don't get help when they need it. People tell you, "You're a good person, you don't do drugs". WTF, I saw it being a nurse, I saw other nurses verbally abusing addicts and telling them "Well that's what you get, should have thought about before you did it." WTF. This was in an acute rehab center!
So if adults can do drugs responsibly, why are there so many people who’s lives are ruined because of drug use?
That's what they are refusing to acknowledge. Alcoholics, as well as a bunch of other drugs are extremely addictive. Why legalize a hard drug that you know is highly addictive. People were just criticizing pharmaceutical companies for the opioid epidemic.. Now you are okay with heroin use? Smh
Because of social, and family issues Laura. That is the problem here, as long as that happens (which will continue to) there will be addiction and alcoholism
@@marcoervin7324 Because if you legalize it, I :
- People will be able to do it safely, meaning overdose deaths and secundary deaths (disease, infected drug which leads to lots of deaths) would decrease substantially (even if use increases)
- You would hit strongly criminal organizations and end multiple. And unless the state regulates it too much, end it in general (which would end in less kids doing drugs because schools wouldnt be a sell place)
- You would heavily diminish State spending, which is great for everyone. Think about all the extra police, extra missions and materials, extra personnel, the prisons, etc..
As long as the state doesnt make us pay for their heroin or even hospital if they OD, its all good.
And Laura, did you have philosophy in class?
Just because A can do something doesnt mean B can. If A can do it and B cant, you cant still say A was able to do it.
And considering the trillion dollar market drugs are, its a fact most people buying dont have their "lives ruined". If only fucked up people did drugs you wouldnt have a trillion dollar market.
"Awakening" Robin Williams/ Robert Deniro flick is about this very thing.
Hamilton and Joe in the same room together! The DMT Elves are partying in delight!
FACTZ 😂😂😂
I can’t express enough how absolutely correct Joe and Hamilton are in this clip! I wish our leaders and our society as a whole was wise enough to use this wisdom. Personal Freedom is what it’s all about.
Personal freedom? Look at the drug addicts at LA... Tell me if they're free..
This was a great podcast. As a long time user and now 11 yrs sober he was more spot on about what to do and treatments then any other doctor I have seen. Tapering is the best way but you’ll probably always go thru withdrawal? I have, some not so bad some you wanna die. I still take Xanax but since being in Cali cannabis has gotten me to not need it as much. Also the mental issues are spot on, mind over matter in a way. Breathing helps along with meditation when it comes to anxiety. Spotify needs comments btw. Lol
I love you Joe, you inspire me to better myself
Same here
"That's my freedom" Really eye opening when you state it so simply. The governments limit your freedoms to "protect" you. But in fact they end up oppressing you.
It’ll be totally fine the second they can make money off it. Just like weed
Can't wait for this one to release on TH-cam
This reminds me of a meme that said: anything’s a guilty pleasure if you’re anxious enough.
Joe and Hamilton together!!! You two are freaking amazing. Thank you both so much for everything that you're doing to help spread the word of truth in this sadly misinformed world we live in.
As someone in long term recovery from opiates specifically - I can say for sure that heroine doesn’t make you “more compassionate” .
Quite the contrary - heroine literally makes you apathetic, unable to feel the same level of compassion, concern, or interest that you would feel for others when sober. Heroine numbs you, not only physically, but also emotionally. This is a well known fact.
I lived with a junkie for a year or so. He was a literal monster to society. A burden on everyone around.
Finally someone that gets it.
Not true at all. An addict who abuses the drug that is true. Someone who recreationally uses it can be much more compassionate,loving happy etc. it’s when you abuse it daily that those effects subside and you don’t get to that anymore you just get normal.
No. Addiction does that to you. When I used opiates socially they made me far more compassionate and interested, but once I became an addict all I cared about was not letting my high get ruined and and THATS when I became apethetic and unable to feel
Your both right and wrong here.
The interesting thing from a psychological point is that if you choose to do it you learn and educate yourself and manage it. If your friends or doctor tell you. No education. It doesn’t seem to ever end well.
People forget that heroin isn't just mentally addictive. It is physically addictive... YOU CAN DIE FROM NOT JUST OVERDOSING BUT FROM WITHDRAWALS AS WELL... smh
Alcohol withdrawals are more dangerous. Alcohol is also both mentally and physically addictive.
@Ass Ketchup no you can definitely die from Heroin withdrawal. There have been cases where that has happened.
Hamilton is the guy everyone wish they had as a friend.
Absolutely 💯💯💯💯💯
Hunter* ftfy
Ok this is the episode that makes me go to Spotify LOL
There's gotta be a way to download the whole podcast for free without having to pay Spotify or listen to their ads
He mentions that you can see it for free on Spotify. I have it already, but check in to it. Might be a trial, but that works if you cancel
Within the time frame :-)
@@noname-xo5mp I can almost guarantee there are rips out there the second it drops. Just gotta Google it, my friend.
@@supermotos you are so correct. It’s funny. I was going to say to get Spotify same as Netflix, Serius or whatever other subscription people have. Funny how I instinctively added the free trial bit to keep the criticism to a minimum.
When will this full interview be posted to TH-cam???
I’d like to see Hamilton and Carl do a episode together. I feel like Carl could provoke a lot of interest convo with Hamilton.
Most people I know who do a lot of drugs tend to brag about all the drugs they do lol
Really? The people that have done more drugs than anyone else I know tend to discourage drug use
They don’t do a lot of drugs, they think they do a lot of drugs. If you truly do “a lot”, you don’t want anyone knowing, cuz you’ll fuck something up and they’ll know why.
Smoking a bunch of weed is not “doing a lot of drugs”. Binge drinking every Saturday with a line of coke split between all seven of you is not a lot of drugs. Ask them whens the last time they did “a lot” without anyone else partaking for a week straight the only correct answer answer to “a lot” would be “all of last year”
"The whole countrys on meth, bro"
Johnny Drama
People on meth think that everyone is on meth..
@@arizonageorge6164 Johnny Drama only has a $2000 a month supplement habit.. and propecia
I literally laughed out loud when I read this. Well done 👏
You ain't sh**ing about that. If it ain't bolted down, they steal it. If it is, they slobber on it and try to take it apart. If it has a catilletic converter, they'll saw it off and sell it. Yep, mankind is evolving. 🤣 It blows my mind to see how they can take 4-6 ingredients with crossbones on it and make something good out of it. Ain't figured that one out yet. 🤔
This was a great speech that i didn't know i needed to hear. 👏
Oh my gosh I had car racing on the tip on my tongues when Joe mentioned it…
Can’t get enough of this
YEEEEESSS HAMILTON!!!! HES BACK YES
I was medically dependent on Oxycodone and Methadone for 20 years and came through it in good health. The biggest problem was being chained to a pill bottle. My problems didn’t begin until all the pain clinics got shut down and I became addicted to heroin. I definitely don’t recommend it, especially under the present legal circumstances. Yes it is awesome at first but when it becomes habitual, the effect is not so great. After 5 years I got clean and intend to stay that way. While I was getting clean I was in with mostly alcoholics and they were some seriously addled folks. I am healthy today mainly because I always used sterile technique and was able to avoid a mortal overdose. Except for the risk of overdose, heroin itself is relatively nontoxic. It’s injection and it’s risk from dirty injection equipment of pericarditis, hepatitis, AIDS etc that will get you in the end. Snorting heroin is unpleasant and will fuck up your sinuses mainly from all the lactose that is used as a cut nowadays. It would have been worse when quinine was the cut of choice.
Credit to you for having some perspective, I find ex drug addicts to be some of the consistently most anti science, reactionary, obstacles to improving addiction treatment and drug policy of any group of people around. Despite the objectively horrible rates of success of 12 step models I can understand their attachment to that if they feel it was personally life changing for them, but their overwhelming support for criminalization is just mind boggling to me. The number of stories where incarceration led them to sustained abstinence is almost nil. And even in the few stories I’ve heard where that is the case according to them, it was usually incarceration for a crime they did that was not possession or distribution and would be illegal anyways!
I snorted it for YEARS. Stuff was awesome before fent hit my area hard on 2016.
They cut it with quinine? 🤢🤮 jeesh well at least you won't get malaria while you're addicted to that heroin.
This is the most spot-on shit I've ever heard. Thank you!!!
2 of my favorite people to watch and listen 2!! Love the content!!
Just remember, Lemmy did a LOT of speed (including meth), drank a bottle of whiskey a day, did some other drugs and kept playing Motörhead gigs til he died aged 70....
You are not Lemmy.
If it works for you , brings enjoyment and positivity and you can keep it in relative control then go for it , no one has the right to tell you what or what not to put into your own body
I’ve been waiting for Hamilton since the very moment his last episode aired the dude is seriously amazing with perspective understanding
He's my favorite
He’s a pretty smart guy
Daaaaamn that analogy was incredible!!!!
Heroin and dilaudid almost killed me and did kill my best friend. I'm so blessed to be alive and have a great family. The VA and weed really helped me. My best friends family doesn't look at him as brave they just miss him.
Wanna do drugs
Tobacco and alcohol adds are banned on Aussie tv since the 90s
Plus paying 800 dollars for a package might discourage people too.
Alcohol ads are absolutely not banned in Australia.
@@pwnsnubs Yeah what? I literally saw a Canadian club ad yesterday 😂
Always on it !!!
I am currently reading Ioan Grillo’s new book “Blood, Gun, Money”. It is about the iron river of guns going from the USA and south across the border. Very interesting and easy to read.
The music analogy was pretty cool!
I love this guy, Hamilton Morris!! I was wondering when he'd ever come back on the show. He's so fn cool in my book, especially when he inhaled Xenon gas, that video was just cool. He's definitely a pioneer especially when it comes to psychedelics.
'The War Against Drugs' is a rerun of the 'War Against Alcohol' from 1920- 33.
both was actually war against people - since you can't make war against a plant, or even a molecule
The war on booze started way before that...
More like the 1800...🤔
And it only got bad because the human race can't maintain self control...
And the government was and is the ones bringing in the drugs
Its not really the same at all...
Just saying
Dang this episode finally the reason I'm getting Spotify Spotify Spotify.
I've been trying to pull this up on Spotify but there is just a never ending stream of ads and it never plays.
“Who’s Been A TRUE FAN FOR OVER A YEAR”.
4 years 🙌🏾
1.5 years
A year? Joe rogan was a household name ten years ago. If he came around the last 2 years... fuck that guy. He came around when my generation needed “joe rogan”. Welcome aboard
@Shroom Grizzley get an “experience “
Embrace the knowledge and education not hate or negativities on miseducation. Giving 8 years of respect of the game and knowledge on multiple areas. And Joey Diaz
Like Terence said "you know what, I'm stoned and I'm proud!"
This is why i openly oppose medical marijuana.not that it doent have medicinal value, but saying that it is "medicine" implies that there must be SOMETHING " wrong" with people that use it, and that it should be regulated to insure it is used " properly".
I've done heroin for 6 years. Got 4 dead friends now. I Didnt feel all that brave
I didn’t ask
he said that being transparent about drug use is brave when you can use it in moderation. there’s a fine line between occasional drug use and being a junkie. you and your friends clearly didn’t practice moderation. drugs aren’t for everyone
I've worked with Carl Hart. Absolute treasure.
Glad to hear! Tell him we appreciate him and all his work, the American people want change
Me too. He used my rig when he scored but left his @ the trap house. He threw me a bag for it. Good guy, but even better dope!
@@Patriot2572 huuuuh
Those tent cities are full of brave people.
Exactly 😂😂😂👌👌👌👌
He's not brave because he does herion. He is openly admitting he takes an illegal substance at risk of his job for the sake of what he considers activism. I'm not sayings its brave im just making the distinction.
Most of those people are alcoholics! We should decriminalize drugs and give them away for free!
What a dumb comment.
We scream "freedom" from the rooftops, brag about it like it's a trophy but when it comes to drugs all that goes out the window. When you limit freedom you are not free.
The analogy with music was on point
I gave up on JRE on Spotify. Every time i try to watch a video i usually just exit out after the third or fourth unskippable ad that Joe said ruins the flow of conversation
Drag the play head to the very end of the 15 seconds for each ad and it’ll end quick
I don't get any ad on spotify and i don't have premium, once i start watching there are no interruptions
It’s skippable bruh
ive never had a single ad on jre on spotify.
Mine always play right at the beginning? I've seen people talking about that but ever sense I started watching JRE on spotify, all the ads just play in sequence at the beginning? I actually like it that way, just start it and come back in 10m
I wonder if he knows about NWA and the history of Rap. I found a lot of connections between his analogy and the government trying to outlaw rap because it was too “provocative”
Ah yes all good that rap music has done.
Rap music made society worse and I even still listen to rap music.
It encourages violence, drugs, degrading women and men.
@@TomFox1 so does video games, Movies, tv shows, sports, etc. But here goes a white boy thinking he knows anything about Hiphop and Hiphop culture.
@@Imran0said if you ain't white you ain't right
@@romankushniriuk1504 more then you
The conservatory I study at has a music therapy major and all of the students are so so soooo cool. What they are doing can really change the medical field in the next 10-20 years
Like Jimi Hendrix said: “I'm the one that's got to die when it's time for me to die, so let me live my life the way I want to.”.
It didn't feel like there were ants gnawing on my bones, when I quit listening to music tho...
Have you tried? No listening to music of all forms, that means no movies also cause there is music in most scenes, no TV shows or ads or podcasts with music in it, no radio, no more watching your little brother trying to play guitar, no...
We are nowadays so fed up with music all the time, I bet if you really would try to stop for say a month, you would be very eager to relapse. And if you do, then you would get the shivers from listening to fuckin Rihanna... 😅
Analogy
I wish that everyone had this view on drugs!
Absolutely, Hamilton is incredibly smart 🧠
GOOOOOOO HAMILTON! That was the most outstanding argument for reason that I've seen in months!
Love this podcast u should definitely invite Hamilton more often joe