heres some insight for begineers, when you cover the the entire memory module with thermal pads you will most definitely see a big spike in hotspot junction temperature, its not because of the wrong "pressure" on the gpu die, but its the result of extra heat tranferring from memory modules to the gpu die, cause heat tranfers from low to high, when you use high quality thermal pads, the heat dissipation will be so effective that it will ruin your gpu die temps, i have tried 1.5mm and 2.0mm pads and very soft pads, saw the same results across the board, and when i used the pads just as they came from factory to a slight offset and my hotspot temps improved significantly and i was able to overclock my gpu cause the temps were in check. So in short, if you are gaming do not cover the entire memory module, but if you are mining bitcoin, cover the module entirely, for best memory temperatures. That was my exprience with this model of 5700xt, i dont know about other models unfortunately.
bro iI have a problem. I Repaste and replaced pads. but when its working in default profile temps goes up again .I mean around 150wat its okay with 80% fan. but the more it goes junction temps goes up aroud 95-98 (175-195 watt)...I had to undervolt it on 1865-940 with a custom fan profile. any tip on that?
I've owned a 2nd hand 5700 XT for about a year and a half, previous owner put some serious thermal pads on the memory modules and I've always been dealing with high die temps when gaming with it. I've been overclocking the VRAM pretty hard this whole time because I assumed it had no effect on the die temps, but your explanation makes perfect sense and I will do some further testing with this in mind! Thanks.
I recently bought one of these cards off of Mecari for $175, I researched this version of the card prior to purchasing so I knew what I was getting into. When I got the card the outside of the card was is pretty good condition but the temps go out of control fast and I kept having inconsistent clock speeds. I purchased 2mm thermal pads and opened up the card and was honest shocked how bad it was compared to some of the videos I saw. On the GPU die, there was barely any thermal paste, all of the thermal pads were a third the size they should have been and half of them were not even on the memory chips fully. After cleaning and replacing everything, the card runs a lot cooler and sustains clock speed better, but I think I need to add some fans to get more air to the card. I have a Jonsbo D30 case which has a verticle air flow setup.
very good job dude 👍 i have a question about this card and her urban legend : some says that the screws that MSI uses for fixing the cooling system are too long and dont apply "correctly" on the gpu, making a "lost" of thermal conduction... have you noticied that when have/use/fix the card ??? 🤔
For gaming these are quite over clocked or over powered, but have a pretty good core and ram. I reduced clock to 1999 and voltage to 1050 and overclock the ram to 1850 or higher , now the junction doesnt go above 100c
Main problem with this: The upper 2 memories need 0.5mm smaller pads (~1.5mm), just take a closer look at the cooler and you will see why... (You can see the gap at 01:50 )
just guessing.. but. core temp might be lower? just if you got better thermalpaste for your core, the heatsink will heat up more from core and also mem. or bad pad quality?
@@rangoying I'm using Noctua thermal compound on core and thermal grizzly pads on memory chips. Been using thermal grizzly since I first replaced with too small of pads. I had to layer a .5mm on a 1.5mm and it's working great but using 2mm pads brings up thermals drastically! Hitting 100° on an MSI RX 5700 Mech OC
Hi there i was wondering if you can help. I've changed the pads with 2mm gelid extreme and corsair paste for the die. Although gpu temps have come down to 75-78c mostly,the junction temp keeps spiking to 111c and the fans keep ramping up to full whack after 75c at a loss what to do next.
Most people recommend using 1.5mm thermal pads for the upper/middle 2 VRAM chips. If you use 2mm the heatsink might not be level causing there to be a significant gap between the die and the heatsink
@@josephyost22 that's what it might be actually. It's not totally level. Slight gap where the thin long strip of thermal pad is on the fins. I have some 1.5mm also. Will give that a go thank you. 👍
Try PTM 7950 on the die, 2mm on the side memory and 1.5mm on the top. Just did this to a friend's MSI Mech 5700xt and junction temp stays SOLID no higher than 95c and fans never ramp up to max.
heres some insight for begineers, when you cover the the entire memory module with thermal pads you will most definitely see a big spike in hotspot junction temperature, its not because of the wrong "pressure" on the gpu die, but its the result of extra heat tranferring from memory modules to the gpu die, cause heat tranfers from low to high, when you use high quality thermal pads, the heat dissipation will be so effective that it will ruin your gpu die temps, i have tried 1.5mm and 2.0mm pads and very soft pads, saw the same results across the board, and when i used the pads just as they came from factory to a slight offset and my hotspot temps improved significantly and i was able to overclock my gpu cause the temps were in check. So in short, if you are gaming do not cover the entire memory module, but if you are mining bitcoin, cover the module entirely, for best memory temperatures. That was my exprience with this model of 5700xt, i dont know about other models unfortunately.
bro iI have a problem. I Repaste and replaced pads. but when its working in default profile temps goes up again .I mean around 150wat its okay with 80% fan. but the more it goes junction temps goes up aroud 95-98 (175-195 watt)...I had to undervolt it on 1865-940 with a custom fan profile. any tip on that?
I've owned a 2nd hand 5700 XT for about a year and a half, previous owner put some serious thermal pads on the memory modules and I've always been dealing with high die temps when gaming with it. I've been overclocking the VRAM pretty hard this whole time because I assumed it had no effect on the die temps, but your explanation makes perfect sense and I will do some further testing with this in mind! Thanks.
I recently bought one of these cards off of Mecari for $175, I researched this version of the card prior to purchasing so I knew what I was getting into. When I got the card the outside of the card was is pretty good condition but the temps go out of control fast and I kept having inconsistent clock speeds. I purchased 2mm thermal pads and opened up the card and was honest shocked how bad it was compared to some of the videos I saw. On the GPU die, there was barely any thermal paste, all of the thermal pads were a third the size they should have been and half of them were not even on the memory chips fully. After cleaning and replacing everything, the card runs a lot cooler and sustains clock speed better, but I think I need to add some fans to get more air to the card. I have a Jonsbo D30 case which has a verticle air flow setup.
what temps are you seeing under load after this fix?
very good job dude 👍
i have a question about this card and her urban legend : some says that the screws that MSI uses for fixing the cooling system are too long and dont apply "correctly" on the gpu, making a "lost" of thermal conduction... have you noticied that when have/use/fix the card ??? 🤔
For gaming these are quite over clocked or over powered, but have a pretty good core and ram. I reduced clock to 1999 and voltage to 1050 and overclock the ram to 1850 or higher , now the junction doesnt go above 100c
fan reaches 100%?
Did you use the 1.5mm or 2mm?
Main problem with this: The upper 2 memories need 0.5mm smaller pads (~1.5mm), just take a closer look at the cooler and you will see why... (You can see the gap at 01:50 )
Can't you just cut them in half?
@@therealstanthelee2141 I'm talking about the thickness of the pads.
Great Job quick and to the point
Thank you for listing pad sizes, although for all the tools you have, measuring pads by eye is embarrassingly amateur lol
I actually just replaced mine with 2 mm pads and mem temps are drastically worse!!! What d'ye reckon is going on?
just guessing.. but. core temp might be lower? just if you got better thermalpaste for your core, the heatsink will heat up more from core and also mem. or bad pad quality?
@@rangoying I'm using Noctua thermal compound on core and thermal grizzly pads on memory chips. Been using thermal grizzly since I first replaced with too small of pads. I had to layer a
.5mm on a 1.5mm and it's working great but using 2mm pads brings up thermals drastically! Hitting 100° on an MSI RX 5700 Mech OC
@@waynemarsh7775 100 is fine max junction temps, I highly doubt the card is getting to 100c
Hi there i was wondering if you can help. I've changed the pads with 2mm gelid extreme and corsair paste for the die. Although gpu temps have come down to 75-78c mostly,the junction temp keeps spiking to 111c and the fans keep ramping up to full whack after 75c at a loss what to do next.
Most people recommend using 1.5mm thermal pads for the upper/middle 2 VRAM chips. If you use 2mm the heatsink might not be level causing there to be a significant gap between the die and the heatsink
@@josephyost22 that's what it might be actually. It's not totally level. Slight gap where the thin long strip of thermal pad is on the fins. I have some 1.5mm also. Will give that a go thank you. 👍
@@whumanati3927 so what thermal pads are best solution 1.5mm for the top 2 and for the rest 2.0mm?
@@whumanati3927 did you ever get around to doing this? if so, results?
Try PTM 7950 on the die, 2mm on the side memory and 1.5mm on the top. Just did this to a friend's MSI Mech 5700xt and junction temp stays SOLID no higher than 95c and fans never ramp up to max.
Anyone got any extra tips for me on this card - want to make it last till [December ][2022] (heavy VR user)
Why wouldn't it last? I've had mine since 2019.
I don't what happen, TMem still hit 100C
No ESD strap wow...
This is said ironically right?! Lol