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- This is a video that will help you on how to do well in American propeller planes. In this video, you will be learning most of the beginner level things that will see you doing better in air combat in war thunder. Some of these include climbing to the side, going head-on, when you should turn to fight, manipulating your energy, and more. These tips are pretty basic and do not require much time to learn, but they are a great way to get started on the aerial side of war thunder. However, the planes that belong to the United States of America do take lots of time to master. If you want to see more advanced stuff, let me know!
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This Video should be mandatory for all air RB players. Well put!
Greed haha
Ima just put my 🅱️ E S H here
lol yeah
Not all. The ones that play American planes.
It's a video game, get a life!
1. Sideclimb
2. Find a target
3. Engage the target
4. Realising your team has been wiped out
5. Gets chased into your base by 4 enemies
6. Some airifield AA managed to kill your chaser as your plane caught on fire and fall into the ground
7. Repeat
the most common situation i met in the air rb is like 5-6 of fighters diving into a bomber flying at 100m and then get all wiped out by enemy fighters while im still trying to climb with an america plane
This!!!
@@m4a1saiko29 and pilot sniped by the gunner
Are you spying on me!?
And loose all your silver lions because the repair cost it’s expensive
American prop tutorial:
"Run, Forrest, run!"
1. Climb
2. Find a target
3. Dive
4. Shoot
5. Climb
6. Repeat from step 2
More importantly, if target dives between steps 3 and 4, skip step 4
Hello Erich Hartmann.
7. Overshoot and get sniped
I don't get how this works, though. Germany planes dive, climb, and turn faster than American planes. Every time I try this strategy, German planes easily evade my dive, and catch up on the climb.
Been a few years since I tried WT, since I dedicated to American planes and later found out they're the worst, but unless something has changed, my WT experience was being consistently out-maneuvered, out-climbed, and out-gunned.
I'd spend the first several minutes of every match climbing, just to encounter BF109s and FW190s, armed with cannons that can rapidly fire and one-shot me, already at altitude with speed.
@@iwasadeumus is definitely not the worst, maybe in low tier, but in high tier games us and russia dominate lol
All excellent points. I think an even bigger problem than the planes, its the teams. Usually, (at the battle ratings you just used as an example) the teams are made up of way too many bombers. I have been in games where I am literally the only fighter! Also, teams will not side climb and will "Leeeroy Jenkins" in and by the time you get to a decent alt, you are the only one left and the spotting system suddenly shows you the 6 guys that eliminated your team are right on top of you. That is about when I leave to play ground RB...
Yeah this is pretty similar to my experience
@@slaggerthord31 how? i almost only have fighters in my team all the time its gone so far that i started playing bomber cuz nobody did the ojective
@@minzekatze I was talking about the people who refuse to side climb and then yeet themselves at the opponents who are way faster than them and way higher up. The last time I played american props it was exactly how he described. By the time you reach the battlefield, 2/3 of your team are already dead and the rest is already in the process of dying
@@slaggerthord31 That experience is way too relatable, what good does it make to sideclimb the whole match if your team will just throw themselves into the enemy, i gotta agree with Pilicast over here, american props only work in squads most of the time
Yeah it can be hard
The definite exception to this hit and run bunch is the P-36 family. The P-36 can out turn just about anything it wants to (with landing flaps extended it's crazy) and it actually sucks at hit and run due to the insane aileron lock up at just a little over 300 kph. The lock up is omitted at high altitude where the air is thinner however.
Its like the tf2 scout of war thunder
Yes!! I agree completely!!
p36c is where you gotta worry about aileron lock up, G model fixes that
@@realrichardyoutube Yeah I mentioned the lock up, forgot about the g forces though, that thing pulls Gs like nobody's business.
true but i was referring to the p36G lmao@@PiotrBarcz
As soon as I finish sideclimbing both team have lost 97% of their aircrafts. Thus leaving me with no targets and I finish the game with 1 assist and somehow 2 deaths
I've been playing American planes for a while now. I'm at 4.0 and I have both mustangs and the p47 razorback. I'm only a rank 19 player so I'm pretty new and I found myself really enjoying these aircraft. The large amount of firepower the Americans bring is something I really enjoy even if most American aircraft control like shit.
Russian planes have bigger guns entirely climb faster and turn faster it's fucking stupid
all American aircraft control well but some need more speed than others (Like the Hispano P-51)
how u rank 19 bro im rank 9 and im 2 planes from rank 4
@@vat526 this was a whole ass year ago dawg I'm level 100 and I have every plane in the USA tech tree 💀💀💀. At the time i was rank 19 because I played ground exclusively
@@cmdrfrosty3985 good for u bro
A-36 is excellent for head on and turn fighting. it is a p51 with a better engine and air brakes, 2 nose mounted and 4 wing mounted 60 cams allow for great coverage on head one and its relatively accurate if you know how to aim and can take a lot of hits depending on the enemies caliber of weapon that hits you
A-36 with gunpods is so much fun, and is very forgivable for new players with the fire rate and amount of guns.
a36 engine is pure dogshit lol this plane cant even climb properly
@@skslchd7664 it wasn't made for high altitudes and it's an attacker
A-36 is nasty, I kept using it through my 4.7 BR battles.
I like to dive in fast leave my mark and go. To evade I like to dive and hit those air brakes as close to ground as possible usually watch my opponent crash shortly after.
That's a blatant lie it's turning is worse than every plane every nation has planes that are better on every stat it's fucking stupid
I think something not covered here is that most Axis planes have an advantage in SUSTAINED turn performance. This makes the planes much more forgiving to fly since missing the first guns opportunity gives you multiple chances to viably reengage. If you maintain a max performance turn, you will slowly gain an advantage over US fighters just due to the plane's inherent performance.
With American planes, you have an INSTANTANEOUS turn advantage, which means if you don't get the win in the first 1 or 2 passes, your options are to bug out and reset or steadily lose any energy/position advantage you had. Not many beginners can pull off that kind of gunnery snapshot easily.
IRL, this is why John Boyd was so interested in a high specific excess power for fighters in his E-M theory, since this was THE way to generate an enormous sustained turn advantage.
Great points. I would add learning energy maneuvers like basic yoyo's and how to use a weave with a teammate while flying in loose pairs. Baiting lower opponents up, then dragging them across your friends nose while you "Thatch Weave" in front of your better is key. While I like the La5's best for this, American planes are perfect for this also.
Very underrated good quality content, it helped me very much!
"use keys instead of mouse aim"
*Laughs in xbox*
I generally did very well with american props, but they tend to be more tedious and require longer time for match compared to BF 109s and Zeros, before the matchmaking changes of 2020 tho matches where instable and bizarre, sometimes you where able to get 6 kills easily, others I just died for a J2M at 9k
Yeah, that is very correct. I generally do not like to do US props anymore and only fly the F4E for US. Other nations are just more fun for me after having used the american props for long enough
Thank you so much, after watching this video my productivity in games went way up and I've been getting alot more kills
Nice vid dude. This helps a lot and clears a lot of confusion.
Hopefully you see this. But, im unlocking my first jet and i was wondering what I can do to speed up the process and how i can increase my SL income. BTW im a f2p player
One of the few great videos with tips that didn't put me to sleep. Well played sir!
THIS ACTUALLY HELPED THANKS
NO PROBLEM
Great video, this can help many new players.
Glad you think so!
This video helped me a lot! thank you! Was getting frustrated with US planes.
Glad it helped
Nicely done mate Ill benefit greatly from this!!! Thank you for taking the time!
Ahhh! Finally someone I can understand! So many WT fighter instructional videos that I’ve seen are done by foreigners who, while speaking in English, are very hard to understand!
Very good quality. Rly, excellent video. I can see the work you brought to this video. I know what I'm talking about xp
Much appreciated! I spent lots of time on this one
all right took notes and will give it a try tonight hahaha :D thanks
excelent video, quick to the point and useful, oh and nice background music
I side climb a lot especially with bombers in a PB4Y at 7000m in altitude or more you become very hard to chase down by enemy fighters and can one shot a base with a fully upgraded bomb load in a matter of five minutes or less you can destroy all four enemy bases then move onto the airfield.
I pretty new to war thunder and I wanted to say this really helpped
This is a very helpful video. Thanks
Thanks man! God bless!
first thirty seconds is true seems the 109s climb fast as hell
109s have one the highest climb rates
nice tips thx
np
Awesome 😎 I’ve been playing war thunder for 22 months straight starting from Easter Sunday 2020 so Ik some tips for USA ground for light tanks and medium tanks
Great video!
Best video evver it all works for killing more and life longer and realy help the whole team
Wow! Thanks!
This was really useful when i time traveled.
Thats actually a good guide
ive started to grind on the american plane, just reaching tier 3, tier 1 and 3 is fine, but tier 2 is where America shines with its 50 cal. i average around 10 kill in tier 2
This was a great video! couldn't fly American planes well, now I'm doing a bit better! Subscribed, and keep up the good work!
The p36g out-turns the spitfire
low tier is weird for all nations anyway
P-36 with landing flaps can out turn, out spiral climb and out wiggle anything really. It's the only plane in the US tree (that I know of) that is NOT a good Boom n Zoom fighter (the control lock up in the ailerons is outrageously bad even though they were historically awesome at high speed but they do do better at high altitudes with thinner air).
@@PiotrBarcz AD-2?
@@dsdy1205 ?
@@PiotrBarcz strike fighter, 5.7. Turns tighter than any plane at that BR except zeros, Ta-152's and G-55's. Decent climb and hard-hitting AN-M3's
thx man lov u
Thanks for the guide, i've killed a lot of fighters thanks to the guide.
I started using the P51 like a high altitude fighter and been surviving 17 to 25 matches
I'm level 40 in 5.0 American planes and I think they're bad. That's why I'm here. They were so fun at like 1-3 but past that they've been consistently outperformed in every single aspect by primarily the German planes, but not excluding the Russian, British, and Japanese planes.
Bro. FW's literally just outpace me even straight out of a dive going 400+ mph. There is no escaping an FW.
I like to use the SBD2 in 2.7 battles with gun pods, turns out that it is basically the low-tier A10
1) Do what Anakin does when in a head-on… spin and fire you’ll hit him more then he’ll hit you.
2) 20mm guns are great too
3) A-36 with gunpods great as well
What if the person, doesn’t take the head on and dodges.
okay that's fair... but i think it would be nice if they could boost the climb speed a small amount to make it less hair pulling and a little more competitive for usa. I feel supper handy capped playing USA and I played the game well over 2 years now.
Tips for specific families
Mustangs
- it is impossible to climb with too big IAS, but it is possible to climb too slow
- never engage below ~400kph, if you fall below-disengage
-faster you go- faster you turn
- optimal climb speed is 276 kph
-combat flaps rip at very high speeds (over 650kph) don’t fear to use them
Thunderbolts
- this boy struggle to acclelerate but keeps speed remarkably well
-side-climb is necessary - 250 kph
-higher you are- less energy you loose in manuvers
-over 7km alt no other plane can match your horsepower
Cobras
- avoid fights over 5km alt- your engine don’t like heights
-to use 37mm effectively you need very close convergence ~300-400m
-faster you are- faster you turn- never go below 400kph
- for one-on-ones feel free to use upward split-s with liberal use of all configurations of flaps- BEWARE- during them you are easy pray for players outside the duel!
Corsairs
- your gear is your air-brake (up to 700kph)
- speed is your game- keep it over 350kph
-your flaps are only for emergencies when you are caught at low speeds- they rip easily
- when using m.e.c. Keep your oil vents 50-100% open - they create bearly any drag.
Lightnings
- You cant always outgun the enemy, but You can out snipe him
-You turn faster in vertical than in horizontal- especially when you use all flaps configs
- choose your engagements wisely.
-recommend for Thoose who live and breathe .50cals.
new players here. tried uk and germany up to br 3. then decided to try usa and love the planes 😅
So basically if any other nation follows this guide, America still stands no chance.
Thanks for the tips! I have always side climbed (didn’t know that is what it is called), but thought I was a total noob for doing so because I was the only one doing it. I try to climb at a rate where my IAS stays relatively constant. Too slow?
the beginner propeller is fast a hell
I bought the P-51 D20 NA pack and I adore it, easily my favorite plane in War Thunder but I had to learn how to use it effectively first and after I did I've not complained about zeros, fw 190s or spitfires in about a month of playing.( as of this comment it's only been about a month in a half since I finally learned how2AmericanProps lol)
idk where to find ppl to play with and i enjoy playing rb
So i fly with a friend or give up on america and go to japan where i can actually turn?
I constantly lose radar locks with my f14 eventhough the enemy is right infront of my eyes.
Could you do a series on the f14/ radar
also when diving to get away make sure you turn a little to not get your plane shot up.
You should put squad on first place. A good US fighters squad can kill a whole team of enemies without any useless teammates.
The main idea of squad team work is helping each other clear the tail and always creating a out number situation in a certain area.
Side climb is important but not so important. You don't need to higher than everything. You speed is your best friend. US planes like P51 always out run everything if you pay attention to your surroundings. Use your speed advantage to rush the enemies and team work. If you shallow dive in advance, a higher enemy can never chase you. He will only loose his energy when chasing you. Your squadmate can help you push him away.
Turn fight is really tricky in P51. You can turn in high speed. Higher than 400kmh. That's why you should always speed up before you enter a battle. Quickly dive away is always your choice. So speed up. Don't turn. Let your squadmate help you.
Never head on.
Never head on.
Never head on.
Head on is the only way that enemy kill a professional P51. So never give them a chance to head on.
That's pretty stupid that to use an American plane effectively you need a full team when you can hop into any other plane from another nation and do way better everything about American prop planes is ineffective or there is another aircraft in it's same tier who's better in every way
Can you make a video for 1.0 to 4.0 for arcade American props
I would also like to mention that there are so many American players that it's actually suffering to get a match while play with people in a squad who use American planes
I wanted to play Swedish
Much needed video 🤩
Re: 1.2 to 1.8 km for your head-on burst. What is your convergence set at?
I feel like i dive miss my shots try to zoom away and find the guy right on my 6:00 and i get on hit by some cannon.
Attack from above
imo all you need is *S P E E D*
About dogfighting:
It is an option, however if you can avoid dogfighting then avoid it. You should also NOT dogfight turnfighters/good turning planes like italians, japanese and british.
Also wanted to say that if possible, use MEC. The radiators don't produce much drag meaning you can leave them at 70-100%, which in turn means that you can use WEP almost permanently (almost since some planes have limited WEP)
The vid is very good though
using MEC also means your auto prop pitch, fuel %, wing trim, and other important variables are manual and unless you don't have those bound to a button or worse not having any idea what they do you put your plain at a higher disadvantage then the plane that runs it on automatic.
I’m a new player and I think America’s great
i wanna try keys because yknow its like faster and stuff but im just so bad at it
wow now i know why i was doing so bad, im gonna play germany now cause this is boring asf and i wanna get in bad ass dogfights not spend 30m climbing only to miss all of my shots and get killed anyway. thank you for the knowledge pilicast
literal skill issue
@@jewelxxett No. I was bad at American planes and thought I was bad at the game, I switched to German and dominate most matches. As someone who has played both, other nations planes are simply much, much better.
@@2mcu this is simply not true. Sure you can do better in a different nation because every country caters to a different playstyle, but to act like one nation is better than the rest is just flat out incorrect.
First thing have tatics of your own to combat enemy fightrs. (That is on your six) Second learn how to stay on some one while your on their six. Step three never say your aircraft is bad learn with it keep playing it skill get kills.
Ayo this gave me some hope or i would have switched to German or Russian fighter
How do I change my settings from mouse to keys?
Hi Pilicast, i don't realy undertand bc i've try all that things and many other, but i can't do a single kill, i fly the P63C i sideclimb to 4500m (if i go higher i'll wouldn't have any time to get any kill bc all the ennemies are gonna be dead already) i try all possible things: Dogfight, Turnfight, ennergy trap, Head-ons
Even be at 4500m dive whenever a planes is on my six and try to sow the ennemies but nothing work...
Every game is the same game, i take off, sideclimb, find a target, try to engage him, miss my shots, be out turned or loose my plane control because of the G tolerence, ennemies fire 3 round and boom, my to wing cutted, no motor, no pilot, tail cut etc...
Even in ground rb the only time i do kill with my planes it's on the ground targets, but whenever a plane come in i know i'm dead...
This situation is very frustating, just start a game, die, loose 4k sl for the repairs over and over...
I've asked for tips to the pepole i meet in game but they always say me, skill issues whereas not, what are you suppose to do when you can't dogfight, turnfight, energy trap or even head-ons with the ennemies...
So pls if you or anybody reading this comment have any solution for me please tell me
Thanks a lot and sorry if my english is a bit broke i'm a french boy lol
I want to play Realistic, but it feels intimidating. And my aim is awful without the arcade aiming circle, so i can’t manage to get any kills sadly
Thank your for this video. I thought I just sucked lol
One question should I turn fight in the p-36 as it has one of the fastest turn times for early aircraft
Some American planes can turn fight well, though they are the exception. You can turn fight in stuff like the hellcat, p-59 (event vehicle), and bearcat, although of course it always matters what plane you are turn fighting against
They have lower climb rates but good high altitude performance and a higher top speed than pretty much anyone else. Just don't get in a dogfight and you'll do fine.
I don't get how fast you fly and maneuver in air rb. When I fly it feels like I'm in slow motion and the air is made of syrup
Attacking a TA 152 in a head on while he has any sort of energy advantage is a mistake. The TA 152 has 2 20mms and a 30 if I am not mistaken so it has scary guns but not a lot of ammo.
What do when literally everyone is flying at 1000m altitude?
my circle so i know where to sim disappeared can someone help me
The issue with side climbing is that your team is dead before you get to a decent altitude.
I wished I watched this video before spending all my time finally getting tier 5 American aircraft, solo. :( and also being the guy that cant help but turn and face my opponent.
I have never once felt that American fighters sucked, I know I'm bad but I get shot down all the time by American fighters than I do spitfires.
The one saving grace of American fighters that keeps drawing me back are that 50 cals are just so damn RELIABLE at killing things. That's probably why you die more to them then British planes
P-40 is a pretty good dog fighter IMO
P-39 and similar are really good at turn fighting as well
Can confirm, I find the P-40 to be better at Air RB than the P-51C-10 for example; Even though the mustang can climb better it's not a good turn fighter at low altitudes and isn't as tough (In the chinese front of WW2 some pilots actually preferred the P-40 over the P-51 for these reasons). The thing with later war US fighters is that they gave up completely on maneuverability in favor of speed, armor/armament, & energy retention which worked great IRL but doesn't translate to a small multiplayer environment like in WT
Here for class sir sorry I’m late 🫡
I love p-39s but p-51 was disappointing for me, because of lack of these tips, I guess
how to use keys ?? i am new thanks
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I sideclimb but when i get to altitude im the only one left on my team
My argument on Point one is this. in a larger realistic arena (No big red names showing you where everyone is at) yes, US planes can get the altitude they need. But in the constricted arena of RB, you will find you have no real chance to take advantage of the US planes specific strengths as often as lets say a German plane will be able to take advantage of theirs. strictly speaking it's not the planes, it's the arena that gives the advantage to the German 109s 190s etc etc for their climb rate, which is 100% always useful from start to end of the match, where the US plan must seed the arena to the enemy for an extended period only to find the enemy focused on out climbing the US planes and thus no advantage was gained while enemy attackers rack up points down low. Point one is not wrong, it's misapplied to an arena that is not suited for it. You're thinking on the line of how the planes perform not how the enemy will counter you in a actual match. The number of times i have simply climbed with a 109 only to pick off the lone 1 or 2 US plans that thought side climbing would give them an advantage, only to end up alone is to many to count... Point four is the only way to counter this. In that event just keep above and away and they WILL separate eventually.. but if you're a group of 109s.. well fat luck for the US plans they basically lost.
the idea of US planes do better in teams makes sense but I think the US gets bad WR cuz a lot of new player pick the US.
How can i use keys?
If the only way a plane can succeed is having a massive energy advantage than it sucks (at its BR). Nothing you said in this video doesn't also help the Bf 109s or Fw 190s, or J2Ms, etc.
I think you can beat the fw190, they don’t climb and turn very well.
If you don't like American fighters it's because you don't know how to fly, or you don't know how these planes were used historically.
Patience and teamwork was essential for the Wildcat or P40 in the early years and this continued into later planes and tactics
kinda have to turn fight or your giving them the advantage getting behind you
Everytime I hope the enemy p51 isn’t an H
american planes are bricks with guns and my god they can slap hard
A lot of this is tough bc console is so laggy
Truth is american props are fairly bad but this video will help explain the basics to stand a chance and kill but it will all depend on skill and patience of you and your enemy in the end
Im running P 51 and kingcobra
How im suppouse to fight bf 109 F4?
It can outclimb me, outturn me, and due to its better altitude on the start of fight outspeed me
Im helpless
Get used to it gajin loves shitting on America's aircrafts every single other plane in the game tier for tier has better stats and guns than the Americans
do a scissor, and make him overshot
in doing a scissor the key is: if your opponent turns into you, you just pull up, untill you're not on his gun range, and the loop beneat him and repeat untill you on his six