Start building your ideal daily routine 💪 The first 100 people who click on the link will get a FREE week trial and 25% OFF 🎁 Fabulous Premium ➡ thefab.co/kingsandgenerals Too many sacks of Rome and more on the way. Sackings will continue until morale improves.
@@joeroganstrtshots881 It's still the Roman empire, so point being? Also calling it a Greek empire is a huge disservice to Armenian the Bulgarians and for a long time the Egyptians among many more at least imo.
Fun fact: In the Canary Islands and in some parts of Latin America the word "goth (godo in spanish)", is a derogatory way to refer to a peninsular Spanish. In fact, it was a frequent insult to refer to the royalists in the Latin American wars of independence.
Remember kids, being a Goth isn’t about wearing a particular style of clothes or listening to certain types of music… It’s about ravaging the Balkans, threatening to sack Constantinople, actually sacking Rome, and eventually establishing permanent kingdoms in Southern Gaul and the Iberian and Italian Peninsulas.
Yes Romans thought they were barbarians, while I think they were typically europeans, that Huns pushed them to west and so they were ready to be friends with Romans, if Romans treated them nice, but instead Romans laugh it off with not caring singel bit about Goths lives and so Goths got bit angry towards Romans and thats why so many revolts started. If Romans treated Goths nice. Goths would be ready to be part of the beutiful big empire, but they wanted to make Goths go mad and so Goths took the whole western Roman empire down and thats why Romans should have not behaved so rubish way, so their beutiful empire could exist for longer time. Isnt that Alaric didnt want to get Rome burned down, so why did he let his people then go sack the butiful city? Isnt that Hannibal was the last one to sack the city and not the other dude in 390 BC, unitil Rome came to its golden age. History would also have been diffrent, if the plague didnt hit the eastern Roman empire, when they were conquering back old roman territory, but I dont know would it be as beutiful, when they would color themselves purple, not dark red and I think they would not have left much the greek architecture and they rather watch booring horses race, than watch epic Gladiator battles, so Roman golden age would have still stayed as more beutiful golden age.
Stilicho was actually of Vandalic origin. When the Vandals invaded Noricum and Raetia in 401 AD, many Roman nobles and the emperor Honrous believed Stilicho would betray them. Stilicho didn’t and kicked the Vandals out of Italy.
Stilicho maybe Vandal by origin. But everything about him is Roman. He entered service as a young man wearing the imperial legionary uniform and armor and he served to the very end as a true defender of Rome. Plenty of Roman soldiers constitute of many ethnicities, from Gallo Roman to the eastern Syrian and the most vaunted of them all the Pannonian legions. The Pannonian legions are considered the elite of the elite legions of the 3rd century onwards down to their toughness. Therefore Rome had always been recruiting Germans and barbarians for the legions. For example, Arminius under Octavian's empire was a German who as a child traveled away from Germania and was trained to be an officer in the Roman military. Among him, many other German boys were taken and trained to be military men serving Rome. Another example is even the Ostrogoth Theodoric the Great was trained in Constantinople under the Eastern Romans, a full Roman education for elite members of society.
@@dittmannrudolfrohr2149 No they weren't. Where did you read this? Beside their "East Germanic" background, Vandals and Goths are two different groups.
@@dittmannrudolfrohr2149 Ofc no doubt, but what relates Thervingi/Greuthungi with Vandals as you stated before? Though probably culturally and linguistically "related", the political history and archaeological evidence differs more or less widely (Przeworsk (Vandals, Lugii, etc.) vs. Wielbark culture (Goths, etc.).
Thats what happens when your army is mainly composed by those same Goths, Huns, Alans, Franks, Suebi, Vandals, etc commanded by their respective kings.
@@manuelalonsodominguezvazqu2145 Downgrade of army thanks to this was a problem and they didn´t have same discipline, but many of them were loyal and effective soldiers, but acting towards them like they were trash wasn´t exactly helpful.
I really hope you go in depth into post-Roman Europe. It’s the one area which is really undercovered due to far greater general interest in Roman history, and a period I’d like to learn more about
I agree, immediate post-Roman Europe is just so overlooked as "The Dark Ages", and to me it's crucial to see just how much this was a process, and that, imo, the west could have been stitched back together with someone with better acumen than Justinian. I'd argue though, that once the year without a sun + Justinian's Plague really made that next to impossible. People who may have had been citizens in living memory or had citizen parents or grandparents were pretty much wiped out.
Hell that's all counties. Greed and the influence of money/the rich influence on public policy. It's almost like we should make a maximum wage and a limit to how large your company can get. 🤔
@@karthikmadakasira513 except the earthquakes, volcanoes, storms and other such natural disasters. Greed is the root of most human caused ills in this world though with religion filling any gaps.
@@cb352 I agree. I think Christianity had a considerable place in the social upheaval for Rome. But, I think it's entirely overstated to say it was THE cause of collapse. This is true, in my opinion, for all states.
Theoderic was so Romanised that he turned Italy into a Byzantine copy, he forced through his germanic lineage the Goths of Spain and the Bourgoundians to subdue to his rule thus he unified the western empire and I say so as he was annotated patrician(protector) of Rome by the emperor and he was raised in Constantinople.His success in Romanization was so big that the byzantines erased him from his mosaics(that were as good or better than those of Constantinople) as an act of anger since they viewed him as barbarian while Theoderic was beyond any of this characterisation , he had plenty of philosophers in his court, he knew greek fluently as well as latin and his mother tongue while Charles , the so called great, couldn't even say a phrase in greek despite his efforts.But the best is that Theoderic despite his absolute independent realm DID NOT claim the emperor's title in west while he was the best candidate, many tiny men in the future accepted that prestigious title and had no shame to do so as they had zero relation in any way with the title they claimed...
@@1Guy12 For sure, yes! But there´s something else. If you compare that with the Vandals under Gaiseric and his deeds it becomes more and more clear that the "barbarians" weren´t so wild and uncivilized after all.
This channel has grown immensely since I first started watching years back, keep up the good work sparking people's interest in history! A great follow-up to this video would be an episode on the Ostrogoths of Crimea, they were the longest lasting of the Gothic territories and had a fascinating culture with strong influences from Eastern Roman Christianity, while maintaining their own language and writing system.
They have single handedly reshaped how I understand history. If only history class could have been as entertaining... We might actually remember some of it!
The Sack of Rome on 24 August 410 AD was undertaken by the Visigoths led by their king, Alaric. At that time, Rome was no longer the capital of the Western Roman Empire, having been replaced in that position first by Mediolanum in 286 and then by Ravenna in 402.
@@PackHunter117 The capital was where the emperor was residing, thus the name "Roma Mobilis"="Mobile Rome" the new capital of the entire empire became Constantinople that's why the byzantines saw the loss of west as the loss of some regions and not the loss of another Roman state.
Go watch "why Rome had to fall" living in rome at that time was a shithole, basically made peasants pay 90% taxation and paying them less then minimum wage if they join the army and a bunch of other disgusting shit
@@maapaa2010 Just go watch the video. Its all explained there. I aint here to argue about this shit. Just giving insight. The vid is called "The Roman Empire Had To Fall. Here's Why"
Why people would defend Rome to date is ludicrous. Europeans should respect the Goths as they were interested in Rome's wealth but disinterested in its lack of honor.
Fun fact :The arabs of Taric Ibn Ziad were invited by a Julian a latin lord descendent from Honorius ,so ironically the emperor who could not defeat the goths was the one who led to the obliteration of the gothic germanics be the arabs.
Near the place I live in South of France, there is the Mountain of Alaric. The Wisigoths established there in 412 and built a powerful stronghold on. The Legend of the place says that Alaric (died in 410 in Italy) lays in a cave under the mountain. But that is probably more Alaric II, famous for the Breviary of Alaric. Alaric II has been killed by Clovis at the Battle of Vouillé in 507 where the Goths has lost Aquitain and Toulouse to the Franks.
12:03 Someone who was more Roman than his Emperor (and most Romans in his period), despite his barbarian blood. 13:06 Here is Honorius proving himself to be the worst Emperor in Roman history, making Caligula and Nero look like great emperors, with his actions.
I’ve always wondered how the empires of antiquity transitioned into the kingdoms of the middle ages. This video does a good job of showing how it happened.
@@Paul1994Kesidis I mean, it technically is, but from what I know they separated themselves from the Eastern Roman Empire after Constantinople fell. So the most they can be seen as is a successor to the Eastern Roman Empire, and Roman Empire.
@@qutuveo6332 Not exactly. As honorius and arcadius were just recognized as co-augustus's which has happened more times in the past more then you expect. Tetrarchy, Valens and valentinian, Theodosius and gratian, Etc.
Yay, another Iberian bit of History! Suebi came here first - claming Gallaecia in 409, and establishing a kingdom that lasted for more than a century, after which a disastrous campaign led to the annexation by the same Visigoths, who at the time were ruled by king _Leovigildo_ . All of Iberia and also the _Septimania_ became under the rule of the Visigoths. I love this time of History, although it is quite overlooked in History classes. Visigoths maintained almost every aspect of Roman legal and administrative apparatus, so their own legacy left not that much visible marks. Here in the Portuguese city of Vila Real there's a numismatic museum that preserves a couple of beautiful golden coins from this era, where the kings depicted on them are no more than child scribbles. It is in fact their swan song that claims more atention here in Iberia, with their demise at the hands of the Muslims, starting at the battle of Guadalete in 711, and then in 722 in the battle of Covadonga, "official" start of the Reconquista, at the hands of _Pelágio_ - who claimed to be a legitimate successor to the Visigothic crown. Looking forward for the next episode!
The use of foreign barbarians ( foederati) to fight wars without accepting them into roman society was in my opinion what led to the downfall of the Roman Empire in the west. Even those who assimilated and served the empire with distinction seemed like it was never enough (Stilicho, Ætius ). In the end these Barbarians went on to recreate and continue different versions of Rome throughout Europe; dawning the purple and drinking wine.
@@jung9399 they had already employed the practise for 1000 years... Many of them, such as the Numidians, contributed greatly to the legions. And much later than that, the Varangians were indispensable
@@schoolofgrowthhacking Also 26 Emperors out of 70 in total were of 'barbarian' Illriyian descent. Decius, ruled AD 249-251 Herennius Etruscus, ruled AD 251 Hostilianus, ruled AD 251 Claudius II "Gothicus", ruled AD 268-270 Quintillus, ruled AD 270 Aurelian, ruled AD 270-275 Probus, ruled AD 276-282 Diocletian, ruled AD 284-305 Maximianus "Herculius", ruled AD 286-305 Constantius Chlorus, ruled AD 305-306 Galerius, ruled AD 305-311 Severus II, ruled AD 306-307 Constantine I, ruled AD 306-337 Licinius, ruled AD 308-324 Constantius II, ruled AD 337-361 Jovian, ruled AD 363-364 Valentinianus I, ruled AD 364-375 Valens, ruled AD 364-378 Gratian, ruled AD 375-383 Valentinianus II, ruled AD 375-392 Constantius III, ruled AD 421 Valentinian III, ruled AD 425-455 Anastasius I, ruled AD 491-518 Justin I, ruled AD 518-527 Justinian I, ruled AD 527-565 Justin II, ruled AD 565-578 Rome was powerful because of 'barbarians'.
Vandals, Goths--I love the migration era and can't wait to see what's next. Could you cover the Sarmatian Alans-their migration, assimilation, and the forgotten medieval kingdom they left behind in the Caucasus. Or perhaps a video about the Franks and Anglo-Saxons? P.S. was Stilicho part Goth or part Vandal?
Damn you guys downplayed Stilicho badly here but alright he's Vandal anyways and this video is about the Goths and Alaric, so yeah nice video as always
He was. There’s a Roman source that specifically mentions it. The roman writer Paulus Orosius directly vilifies Stilicho’s vandal ancestry, writing ‘Stilicho, who was sprung from the Vandals, that unwarlike, greedy, treacherous, and crafty race.’
Even today in Spanish-speaking regions some names that still retain a clear Gothic ethimology (such a Teodorico, Cleotilde, Raimunda, Berta, Hermenegildo, etc) are object of ridicule cuz they're associated with "rustic" people
Given how much the Goths were institutionalized by the Romans, their embrace of Roman laws, Roman military structure, and when they conquered Roman areas and governed by using Roman institutions, experts, and using the titles from Roman political offices, Rome's rejection of the Goths was a *major* mistake. It's one of those what-ifs, like what-if Queen Amalasuntha in Italy, a stalwart of traditional Roman values, wasn't assassinated by Gothic nobles and managed to achieve their reintegration back into the Empire.
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Nice idea but no. For first, historians are actually not SURE about the origins of the goths. Some theories are more plausible than others but nothing definitive has not been presented yet. Main source for the origin is their own historian who wrote about it centuries after in time when there was no written history, only oral. He talked about how "ancestors arrived with three ships to mainland europe." Three ships! And 400 years later there were tend of thousands, if not several hundred thousands, of them? How!? Another thing if we assume goth originated from scandinavia is the time between these events. Millenia is far too long time to assume any culture born "trait to raid" to just exist. People and cultures mix, as did in the scandinavia. Also, at that time there was not written history meaning everything should be passed down during the generations by words and mixed with lore and stories. Back then, scandinavia was cold and bleak place with people fishing and hunting, not plotting generational raid invasions against europe. These two events to be related sound nice but are nothing more. Similarities in these are coincidences happening across a millenia, not factual proof backed by *any* archeological findings. I could argue that the goths that raided Rome were not even the same goths that started their journey somewhere in europe. They mixed and married with every single neighbouring tribe, as well as with romans for at least 400 years. Effectively diluting any genetic makeup of the original people down to nothing. Culture was there, genetics weren't. And even the culture could not be unchanged by centuries of affect from Rome and every other tribe next to them. So even that was not the 'original'.
@@alaric_ there is written history - Jordanes,Getica,555year. It was translated by Wilhelm Martens in 1914.But he did a mistake and and "insula magna,nomine Scanza,....haec a fronte posita est Vistula fluminis" translated as "island Scandinavia lies in front of the river Vistula".Same mistake did Charles Christopher Mierow at 1915 and now all are loking for goths in Scandinavia,but for sure island Scanza is old prussian name of Curonian bay.
@@alaric_ You may be right but Tacitus famously wrote that the Germanic people didn't like to intermix which is why they all seemed to have the same features
This morning, Kings and Generals, i searched for your video about Alaric's sack of Rome and i realized that y'all haven't make it, until now. My prayers have been answered!!!
i honestly just love how much more history we have to cover, we are never gonna run out and it makes me happy. great video aswell love the history of the Germanic people, would love to see you cover the Dacians, Thracians and the other specific celtic tribes who invaded and settled in the balkan and anatolian regions, such as the Volcae, Boii and the later Galatians.
But Spartacus and Hannibal fought a Rome that was far stronger and more stable to handle such situations unlike Alaric. Alaric fought a weakened and badly decaying Western Roman Empire. At that point, it was said that Alaric simply walked into Rome itself without much resistance when he sacked the city (or am I mistaking that scenery for when Rome was sacked again in 476 AD which ended the WRE for good?).
Fun fact : When he died ,Honorius regreted how incompetent he was ,he curse the goths who will fall because of one of his descendens. And the arabs of Taric Ibn Ziad ,the bane of the goths ,were invited by a Julian a latin lord descendent from Honorius ,so ironically the emperor who could not defeat the goths was the one who led to the obliteration of the gothic germanics be the arabs.
@@horsearcher6852 I compared fighting with Goths in Rome to fighting with Greeks in Persia during Alexander. Greek mercenaries are given a good amount of credit for being the true downfall of the Persian empire because when they lost battles, they quickly sewed discontent (split loyalties). But the joke works possibly in two ways because Macedonia borders Thebes, both of which were ravaged and settled by the Celts/Goths 300 years before Alexander. Look into the Dacians/Galatians, interesting stuff.
@@lllPlatinumlll The good doesn’t wash out the bad, nor the bad the good. Many western writers supported the USSR up to a point, like Sartre for example.
Nice video (as always), but at least in the case of Late Roman Empire vids, again there are many factual mistakes. For instance, Stilicho was not of Gothic, but Vandal origin. And his was only a half Vandal, although he was more Roman than some Roman senators, if we consider his government and care of the Empire. And the command of the army No Gothic slaves joined Alaric in 408, but Gothic soldiers in Roman employ, who sought protection and safety in Alaric's army, following the assassination of Stilicho, and the purges of Goths and other barbarians in Roman service Also the 405 deal with Alaric, which gave him the position of magister militum per Illyricum was an attempt by Stilicho to use Alaric in the potential war with the Eastern Roman Empire. Let's not forget that Stilicho as Honorius' regent had pretensions on the throne in Constantinople in order to unite the Empire Alaric, on the other hand, did not want just land and gold. No, for him more important was the military command, which gave him access to a potential prominent career path within the imperial hierarchy. (same was with Gainas, Fravitta, or Modares, mentioned earlier in the video), the access to pay, to pay his troops (which operated within the Roman imperial military), and most importantly, a shot to the position of emperor's "regent" (there was no such official position - perhaps guardian would be better). The latter put him into conflict with Stilicho, who as magister utrisquae militiae held that position being the emperor all but in name, and marrying two of his daughters to childless emperor Honorius. Which would, after Honorius' death, leave Stilicho's offspring as a legitimate emperor in the West (and perhaps even East after Arcadius' death in 408) But then things went wrong. Alaric was not willing to cooperate, invading Italy again in 408. Stilicho's attempts to persuade Alaric to join in a potential campaign against Constantinople failed (Arcadius's successor was his underage son Theodosius II, and Stilicho saw an opportunity to unite two halves of the Empire) Meanwhile, Gaul was temporarily lost, being occupied by the forces loyal to Constantine III. At the end, Stilicho's plan backfired, and he was toppled down in the coup d'etat organized by Stilicho's enemies. Alaric now saw an opportunity to take over Stilicho's position, which Honorius and his court were not prepared to give. Honorius briefly toyed with the possibility in 409, but he decided not to support Alaric's claim. Alaric then installed the puppet emperor in Rome, who gave him a much-wanted position. This made Honorius more open to Alaric's demands. By now, Alaric was done with Honorius, preparing to depose him, with Attalus (his choice) being the sole emperor in the West (while Alaric would be an actual leader like Stilicho). But the arrival of the eastern Roman reinforcements crashed Alaric's plans. Revolt in Rome that followed (as grain supply from Egypt was cut out), resulted in the fall of Attalus. With no emperor to back his claim, Alaric and his army did the only thing they could - sacked the ancient capital. It is quite weird that in the video about Alaric, Priscus Attalus is not mentioned at all. I know there is a limited time, but that is an important historical fact. Especially if the topic of the video is Alaric, not Goths (who got too much space at the beginning)
As much as I loved Rome they were cruel, condescending and filled with some much pride it defied all logic and as much as I love their history you are right in your assessment sir/madam
@@nebsam7137 , I mean, the Romans considered everyone other than them, "Barbarians" And as for other groups like maybe the Sasanians, they were selective in whom they considered barbaric Indians and Chinese were exceptions to their outsider bias
@Kings and Generals At 11:23 that banner reminds me of The Dacian ones(A wolf head meant to symbolise either wolfes or dragons along with that tail instead of a body) , and is also present on a shield at 13:34 and 15:25,never knew the goths used it, could it be because of the contact with the Dacians whilst they stayed there? Also a video on the daco-thraco-ilyrian civilisation would be nice ,,
Everything bad that has happened to Rome at that time was basically because people were treating each other like assholes. Be kind and watch how good the world can be.
@@kevinmoore.7426 They were a germanic tribe, which migrated south and eventually settled in the area of northern Italy. They mark the end of the great migration period and are indeed the namesake of the region of Lombardy. Their name is thought to mean Longbeards (Langbart in modern german is pretty close to Langobard), so Lombardy would be the region of the longbeards, xD.
Italy is among the most mixed places in Europe. Aside from the Italic component present throughout the region, the North has noticeable Celtic and Germanic elements while the South has Greek and Semitic/Berber influences. Of course, many nations have different components. The Germans are Germanic with Celtic and Slavic components. The French are Celtic with Germanic and Italic components. The Russians are Slavic with Finno-Ugric and Germanic components. Etc. But Italy is moreso.
The sack of 410 was, par excellence, the first time that Rome and Italy were invaded and/or occupied since 390 BC! The two main occupations of Rome by the Barbarian forces throughout the 5th century AD, in my historical analysis, were extremely traumatic, something that has not happened since the Gallic invasion of 390 BC! However, unlike 390 BC, hardly would arise a "new" Furius Camillus in 410 AD. Note: Throughout the Roman period, Italy was not just considered a Roman province, but it was also considered the "ruler/queen of the world" (RECTRIX MVNDI), the "motherland of all lands" (OMNIVM TERRARVM PARENS) and the "ruler of the provinces" (ITALIA NON EST PROVINCIA, SED DOMINA PROVINCIARVM). Italy, therefore, was the epicenter of Roman civilization and power. The Barbarian invasions of 410 and 455, therefore, were clear signs that the western part of the Roman world was already doomed. However, the Roman Empire, as a political organization, did NOT cease to exist in 476, but only in 1453! The last Roman emperor, in turn, was not Romulus Augustus, but Constantine XI! Both the so-called "Byzantine" Empire (Βασιλεία Ρωμαίων) and the Catholic Church, in MY historical analysis, preserved the Roman ideal of civilization. In 476, therefore, took place the POLITICAL fall of the Roman Empire, but not the CULTURAL fall. Remember guys, Rome is not just a city or a political organization, but it is also an ideal and a CULTURE. In my historical analysis, the Modern World has not yet fully "recovered" from what happened in 476 and/or 1453. Rome was, and it still is, a "synonymous" for glory, power and order!
Yup, the "Fall of the West" was more of a legal nomenclature thing. In the west, people like the Romanized Gauls still used Latin, Roman courts and laws, etc. The only reason why we have English was that the Romanized Britains weren't as capable of resisting like the Gauls or the Spaniards were, and able to have linguistic and institutional continuity with the Roman republican institutions. People in the west treated the post-476 landscape as just another kind of civil war thing, like when the west split up into the Gallic Empire, etc. in the 3rd century. I don't think it really died out until the Plague of Justinian hit further west in 530s/540s and just *wiped* people out and there weren't very many people left who *remembered*.
Yes i agree but, in your historical analysis, didnt byzantine institutions differ significatively from italic-roman ones? I mean, from 400bc to 400 ad you can ser how the roman state gradually incorporates New citizens to its political community, i know no such phenomenom in the byzantine period, they only stick to whatever political community they've already stablish, never expanding it, don't you think that's a significant institutional difference?
Byzantium's cultural understanding was way different from rome's. Mainly because they were greek and romans were latin. You can't say they were both culturally "roman". Byzantines thought they were romans but objectively speaking they were more greek than roman and/or latin in both tradition and language wise
You mean :western modern world*(although the renaissance, industrial revolution and classic liberal values are signs of recovery and revival), that's where the Roman civilization influence was prevalent, Europe was the realm concerned about the fall of Rome and Constantinople. the rest of the world was having its share of successful civilizations and cultures.
This whole thing "rome did fall on 476" is total bs and i am tired of hearing it Yes the Byzantine empire could be considered a "remnant" but it was VERY different from the previous one from the west The West had a senate that shared power with the emperor the east did not the west was a stratocracy that fell bevause it run out of things to conquer the east was just a united monarchy that never attacked without a provocation and mostly stayed by it self without much campaigns the west was latin in culture and ethnic make up the east was greek in culture and make ethnic up Please stop repeating this nonsense yes the two are related but they were VERY different
My family for the last few hundred years lived almost entirely in modern Poland. After DNA research it seems like we have quite a bit of "Gothic" ancestry (at least in terms of genetic similarity). It seems like there is a general trend in history to downplay any "Germanic" element when it comes to Poland, which (while unsurprising) seems to do a disservice in terms of understanding the full background of the people there.
Enjoying this new series- Are the Ostrogoths up next?- Also I can't help but hope that this is all a set-up for a re-mastered retelling of Justinians wars or the rise of the Franks
@@darthvenator2487 mmm you're hardly a Visogoth. If you are Portugese descent you're DNA is mostly comprised of Neolitic farmers who came from Anatolia and settled throughout Western Europe (Ireland, Britain, France, Spain, etc.) bringing with them Proto European languages. Actually Portugese people share more DNA with Nroth African's than Germanic people. If you do have Germanic in you it would be a sliver compared to the rest of your DNA
@@darthvenator2487 My point is it's ridiculous to say you're a visigoth when you share maybe 0.5% of DNA with them. And anyway you couldn't be one anyway even if you were more closely related, they were a culture not an ethnicity. That's like an Italian person today saying they are Roman.
@@brodieshawn63 But don't the Visigoths after the fall of their kingdom mingle with the local population of the Iberian Peninsula? You will tell me now that the French are not Frankish, or the English are not Saxon.
Go on, say "Gothic music sucks" in front of Alaric, I dare you! I know reality was different, but I like to imagine a bunch of modern Goths with black leather clothes and spikes accessories attacking Rome, just for the laughs.
I'm Brazilian and I really love the history about the Visigoths and the Christian Reconquest in the Iberian Peninsula. These are very important historical events for every latin american. Too bad we don't know anything about it...
5:10 one thing I really like about the Goths is that they took from Rome everything that would make them stronger and more capable and left the things that were destroying Roman society from the inside out.
Would history be any different if the Roman's treated the Goth's much more kindly? What do you say? My compliments to all those who made this video a reality.
Becouse they were Dacians. Dacians and' Illyrians were expeled from Balkan and lived in Panonian Plato. Ilyrians and Dacians joined aka Goths who were Balto Slavs. The graves of Wisigoths show they were R1a not Germanic tribes of R1b haplogroups. R1b lived at the West of Europe as Gauls.. Slavs among them were the biggest in bombers. I2a2 Ilurians and Dacians and Finns N1+ N2.
@@mitzipitzi86 There weren't national flags back then. Different legions had different standards including wolves, boars, bulls, and dragons. The eagle was just the most widespread.
@@tinkywinky1238i know its not a national flag,but all legions have their eagle, even the ones that fight the dacians, and why depict the Goths holding the Dacian flag when loosing the eagle clearly ment big shame for the leagions and the romans
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Too many sacks of Rome and more on the way. Sackings will continue until morale improves.
At least make a video on Nader shah.
Sack all the Romes!
I think Flavius Stilicho was a Vandal, not a Goth.
Please make video on sikh empire, like afghan sikh wars
Shivaji the great pls or prithviraj chauhan
Romans: *Massacres families of Gothic auxiliaries.*
Gothic auxiliaries: *Join Alaric to take revenge.*
Romans: Shocked Pikachu face.
This guy gets it. And don't forget all the "Gauls" that were brought into Rome. "Too many slaves, you see." -Marc Antony
@@Joleyn-Joy what's wrong with the vastly richer eastern half of the empire?
@@joeroganstrtshots881 It's still the Roman empire, so point being? Also calling it a Greek empire is a huge disservice to Armenian the Bulgarians and for a long time the Egyptians among many more at least imo.
@@Joleyn-Joy fair enough, I must've misinterpreted what you meant my bad on that one.
@@joeroganstrtshots881 it was Latin for about 300 years 330 A.D. 600’s...then Greek became the Offiical Language.
Fun fact: In the Canary Islands and in some parts of Latin America the word "goth (godo in spanish)", is a derogatory way to refer to a peninsular Spanish. In fact, it was a frequent insult to refer to the royalists in the Latin American wars of independence.
Thanks! I don't know what to do with this info, but I still find it interesting
Gothe is a less so popular insult in Greece
@@cesaru3619 Thank you for reminding me how to call Franco fans from now on
@@cesaru3619 good thing he did
@@cesaru3619 what do you mean by take care
Remember kids, being a Goth isn’t about wearing a particular style of clothes or listening to certain types of music…
It’s about ravaging the Balkans, threatening to sack Constantinople, actually sacking Rome, and eventually establishing permanent kingdoms in Southern Gaul and the Iberian and Italian Peninsulas.
Yes, I'll pass this knowledge to my kids
Yes Romans thought they were barbarians, while I think they were typically europeans, that Huns pushed them to west and so they were ready to be friends with Romans, if Romans treated them nice, but instead Romans laugh it off with not caring singel bit about Goths lives and so Goths got bit angry towards Romans and thats why so many revolts started. If Romans treated Goths nice. Goths would be ready to be part of the beutiful big empire, but they wanted to make Goths go mad and so Goths took the whole western Roman empire down and thats why Romans should have not behaved so rubish way, so their beutiful empire could exist for longer time. Isnt that Alaric didnt want to get Rome burned down, so why did he let his people then go sack the butiful city? Isnt that Hannibal was the last one to sack the city and not the other dude in 390 BC, unitil Rome came to its golden age. History would also have been diffrent, if the plague didnt hit the eastern Roman empire, when they were conquering back old roman territory, but I dont know would it be as beutiful, when they would color themselves purple, not dark red and I think they would not have left much the greek architecture and they rather watch booring horses race, than watch epic Gladiator battles, so Roman golden age would have still stayed as more beutiful golden age.
Im not sure if those kingdoms were so permanent, if i recall right. The lumbards destoryed the ostrogoths, and abbisids destoryed the visigoths
Good joke you should be famous. I'm shocked as to why you are a TH-cam commenter and not a famous comedian?!
@@jout738 God is the best planners
Stilicho was actually of Vandalic origin. When the Vandals invaded Noricum and Raetia in 401 AD, many Roman nobles and the emperor Honrous believed Stilicho would betray them. Stilicho didn’t and kicked the Vandals out of Italy.
Correct.
But the Vandals were, as the Heruli and Gepids, Gothic folks.
Stilicho maybe Vandal by origin. But everything about him is Roman. He entered service as a young man wearing the imperial legionary uniform and armor and he served to the very end as a true defender of Rome.
Plenty of Roman soldiers constitute of many ethnicities, from Gallo Roman to the eastern Syrian and the most vaunted of them all the Pannonian legions. The Pannonian legions are considered the elite of the elite legions of the 3rd century onwards down to their toughness.
Therefore Rome had always been recruiting Germans and barbarians for the legions. For example, Arminius under Octavian's empire was a German who as a child traveled away from Germania and was trained to be an officer in the Roman military. Among him, many other German boys were taken and trained to be military men serving Rome.
Another example is even the Ostrogoth Theodoric the Great was trained in Constantinople under the Eastern Romans, a full Roman education for elite members of society.
@@dittmannrudolfrohr2149 No they weren't. Where did you read this? Beside their "East Germanic" background, Vandals and Goths are two different groups.
@@Continental27995 No doubt that the Thervingi and the Greuthungi were Gothic people?
@@dittmannrudolfrohr2149 Ofc no doubt, but what relates Thervingi/Greuthungi with Vandals as you stated before? Though probably culturally and linguistically "related", the political history and archaeological evidence differs more or less widely (Przeworsk (Vandals, Lugii, etc.) vs. Wielbark culture (Goths, etc.).
Roman soldier: Goths,Huns,Alans,Franks,Suebi,Vandals are going to invade
Roman general: Looks like a good time for civil war🔥
To me civ wars are the real main reason for rome Downfall
Thats what happens when your army is mainly composed by those same Goths, Huns, Alans, Franks, Suebi, Vandals, etc commanded by their respective kings.
@@manuelalonsodominguezvazqu2145 Downgrade of army thanks to this was a problem and they didn´t have same discipline, but many of them were loyal and effective soldiers, but acting towards them like they were trash wasn´t exactly helpful.
@@vladimirboskovicRome is so powerful that only Rome can destroy Rome
I really hope you go in depth into post-Roman Europe. It’s the one area which is really undercovered due to far greater general interest in Roman history, and a period I’d like to learn more about
I agree, immediate post-Roman Europe is just so overlooked as "The Dark Ages", and to me it's crucial to see just how much this was a process, and that, imo, the west could have been stitched back together with someone with better acumen than Justinian.
I'd argue though, that once the year without a sun + Justinian's Plague really made that next to impossible. People who may have had been citizens in living memory or had citizen parents or grandparents were pretty much wiped out.
The satisfaction of connecting pieces of history you have heard about all your life: Priceless!
"Rome is sacked and conquered"
People who watched the entire Rome series: "Nooooooooooooooooooo!"
Gauls and Carthaginian: Nice
"Too many slaves, you see." -Marc Antony
Spoilers
@@neckreth If you're talking about the tv series Rome from 2005, that's been out for a while lol
Rome got vandalized!!!
How many disasters would have Rome avoided, if it weren't for corrupt or greedy oligarchs and nobles?
Rome would have avoided every disaster
Hell that's all counties. Greed and the influence of money/the rich influence on public policy. It's almost like we should make a maximum wage and a limit to how large your company can get. 🤔
@@karthikmadakasira513 except the earthquakes, volcanoes, storms and other such natural disasters. Greed is the root of most human caused ills in this world though with religion filling any gaps.
@@johnwick535 Elaborate on how religion "fills in the gaps."
@@cb352 I agree. I think Christianity had a considerable place in the social upheaval for Rome. But, I think it's entirely overstated to say it was THE cause of collapse. This is true, in my opinion, for all states.
The Goths were so romanized they used the romans own tactics against them lmao
Theoderic was so Romanised that he turned Italy into a Byzantine copy, he forced through his germanic lineage the Goths of Spain and the Bourgoundians to subdue to his rule thus he unified the western empire and I say so as he was annotated patrician(protector) of Rome by the emperor and he was raised in Constantinople.His success in Romanization was so big that the byzantines erased him from his mosaics(that were as good or better than those of Constantinople) as an act of anger since they viewed him as barbarian while Theoderic was beyond any of this characterisation , he had plenty of philosophers in his court, he knew greek fluently as well as latin and his mother tongue while Charles , the so called great, couldn't even say a phrase in greek despite his efforts.But the best is that Theoderic despite his absolute independent realm DID NOT claim the emperor's title in west while he was the best candidate, many tiny men in the future accepted that prestigious title and had no shame to do so as they had zero relation in any way with the title they claimed...
Also they thoughts there were the successors of Rome so wanna bes
@@1Guy12 For sure, yes! But there´s something else. If you compare that with the Vandals under Gaiseric and his deeds it becomes more and more clear that the "barbarians" weren´t so wild and uncivilized after all.
@Storm they did incorporate the gothic tribes, though in the end the gothic tribes conquered rome lol
@Storm They did.
This channel has grown immensely since I first started watching years back, keep up the good work sparking people's interest in history! A great follow-up to this video would be an episode on the Ostrogoths of Crimea, they were the longest lasting of the Gothic territories and had a fascinating culture with strong influences from Eastern Roman Christianity, while maintaining their own language and writing system.
They have single handedly reshaped how I understand history. If only history class could have been as entertaining... We might actually remember some of it!
The Sack of Rome on 24 August 410 AD was undertaken by the Visigoths led by their king, Alaric. At that time, Rome was no longer the capital of the Western Roman Empire, having been replaced in that position first by Mediolanum in 286 and then by Ravenna in 402.
Oh wow. Idk Rome wasn’t the capital at that time.
Alaric and the Visigoths starved the city into submission.
@@ericponce8740 Dang
Rome might have no longer been the capital at that time , but Rome was always the spirit and the beating heart of the empire...
@@PackHunter117 The capital was where the emperor was residing, thus the name "Roma Mobilis"="Mobile Rome" the new capital of the entire empire became Constantinople that's why the byzantines saw the loss of west as the loss of some regions and not the loss of another Roman state.
At this point, Rome is pretty much just asking to be toppled.
Go watch "why Rome had to fall" living in rome at that time was a shithole, basically made peasants pay 90% taxation and paying them less then minimum wage if they join the army and a bunch of other disgusting shit
@@Dimitri88888888 primary sources? Secondary sources. Sounds like nonsense to me..
@@maapaa2010 Just go watch the video. Its all explained there. I aint here to argue about this shit. Just giving insight.
The vid is called "The Roman Empire Had To Fall. Here's Why"
@@maapaa2010 rome had to Fall. I won't explain why and I won't Provide sources
@@comradekenobi6908 Dude, I wasn't making fun of him. I was honest. I also beliefe that Rome had to Fall. But I will not provide a reason or sources
The Goths had one hell of an adventure across the world
5/5 would do it again.
Across Europe.
@@freshprince69 At the time, that was the world.
@@BudMasta no
@@freshprince69 some Also went to central Asia And have influence in modern Kazakhstan. Tajikistan and other central Asian countries
Honestly one of the most beautiful moments in World history. Brings a tear to my eye
Lmao same
Why people would defend Rome to date is ludicrous. Europeans should respect the Goths as they were interested in Rome's wealth but disinterested in its lack of honor.
Fun fact :The arabs of Taric Ibn Ziad were invited by a Julian a latin lord descendent from Honorius ,so ironically the emperor who could not defeat the goths was the one who led to the obliteration of the gothic germanics be the arabs.
Near the place I live in South of France, there is the Mountain of Alaric. The Wisigoths established there in 412 and built a powerful stronghold on. The Legend of the place says that Alaric (died in 410 in Italy) lays in a cave under the mountain. But that is probably more Alaric II, famous for the Breviary of Alaric. Alaric II has been killed by Clovis at the Battle of Vouillé in 507 where the Goths has lost Aquitain and Toulouse to the Franks.
12:03 Someone who was more Roman than his Emperor (and most Romans in his period), despite his barbarian blood.
13:06 Here is Honorius proving himself to be the worst Emperor in Roman history, making Caligula and Nero look like great emperors, with his actions.
Maybe Honorius is worse than Caligula but Nero? I don't think so.
Caligula wasn't that bad, his relationship with the Senate condemned him to be portrayed as a psychopath
This is my favorite event in Roman history. It's the shock value of the event that makes me read or watch about it over and over again.
History repeats itself
I’ve always wondered how the empires of antiquity transitioned into the kingdoms of the middle ages. This video does a good job of showing how it happened.
Christianised Germanic chiefs
It's is a suprise that Rome postponed this inevitability for so long..
America won’t
West Rome never fell the Vatican controlled all the kingdoms to this very day. Vatican is western Rome!!
@@kennychampion2700 by your logic mount athos is still byzantine empire
@@Paul1994Kesidis I mean, it technically is, but from what I know they separated themselves from the Eastern Roman Empire after Constantinople fell. So the most they can be seen as is a successor to the Eastern Roman Empire, and Roman Empire.
Imagine the Byzantium Empire...
I applaud channels like this for showing and teaching the stuff most of us almost never learn about without doing our own research
This is why my mother gave me this name. Lol
how do you pronounce your own name?
Alah-rick?
or Ah-LA-rick
@@Insectoid_ its still there bro
@@Insectoid_ a symbol of arrogance and oppression was rome
Great reason.
@@duxromanorum9861 a-la-ric
By Alaric calling himself Emperor he would have been declaring himself a threat to the East.
But the empire was already split up between east and west
@@qutuveo6332 Not exactly. As honorius and arcadius were just recognized as co-augustus's which has happened more times in the past more then you expect. Tetrarchy, Valens and valentinian, Theodosius and gratian, Etc.
Yay, another Iberian bit of History!
Suebi came here first - claming Gallaecia in 409, and establishing a kingdom that lasted for more than a century, after which a disastrous campaign led to the annexation by the same Visigoths, who at the time were ruled by king _Leovigildo_ . All of Iberia and also the _Septimania_ became under the rule of the Visigoths.
I love this time of History, although it is quite overlooked in History classes. Visigoths maintained almost every aspect of Roman legal and administrative apparatus, so their own legacy left not that much visible marks. Here in the Portuguese city of Vila Real there's a numismatic museum that preserves a couple of beautiful golden coins from this era, where the kings depicted on them are no more than child scribbles.
It is in fact their swan song that claims more atention here in Iberia, with their demise at the hands of the Muslims, starting at the battle of Guadalete in 711, and then in 722 in the battle of Covadonga, "official" start of the Reconquista, at the hands of _Pelágio_ - who claimed to be a legitimate successor to the Visigothic crown.
Looking forward for the next episode!
There was an Asian American student in our ROTC unit when I was in college. His name was Alaric.
I named my son Alaric
Love the new “sack of Rome” series
By the doomsday defense never the less!!!
@@juandoe9694 what does that even mean. They did not even resist for a month
Alaric is a good example of why you should pay and treat well your workers, lest thet decide a change in management is needed
The use of foreign barbarians ( foederati) to fight wars without accepting them into roman society was in my opinion what led to the downfall of the Roman Empire in the west. Even those who assimilated and served the empire with distinction seemed like it was never enough (Stilicho, Ætius ). In the end these Barbarians went on to recreate and continue different versions of Rome throughout Europe; dawning the purple and drinking wine.
In the end the all fought for their own course, if you lay your military in the hand of foreigners , the foreigners will become the new lords
Maybe they shouldn’t have let barbarians in the army in the first place
@@jung9399 they had already employed the practise for 1000 years... Many of them, such as the Numidians, contributed greatly to the legions. And much later than that, the Varangians were indispensable
@@jung9399 Then they never would have taken Italy without greek mercenaries.
@@schoolofgrowthhacking Also 26 Emperors out of 70 in total were of 'barbarian' Illriyian descent.
Decius, ruled AD 249-251
Herennius Etruscus, ruled AD 251
Hostilianus, ruled AD 251
Claudius II "Gothicus", ruled AD 268-270
Quintillus, ruled AD 270
Aurelian, ruled AD 270-275
Probus, ruled AD 276-282
Diocletian, ruled AD 284-305
Maximianus "Herculius", ruled AD 286-305
Constantius Chlorus, ruled AD 305-306
Galerius, ruled AD 305-311
Severus II, ruled AD 306-307
Constantine I, ruled AD 306-337
Licinius, ruled AD 308-324
Constantius II, ruled AD 337-361
Jovian, ruled AD 363-364
Valentinianus I, ruled AD 364-375
Valens, ruled AD 364-378
Gratian, ruled AD 375-383
Valentinianus II, ruled AD 375-392
Constantius III, ruled AD 421
Valentinian III, ruled AD 425-455
Anastasius I, ruled AD 491-518
Justin I, ruled AD 518-527
Justinian I, ruled AD 527-565
Justin II, ruled AD 565-578
Rome was powerful because of 'barbarians'.
Vandals, Goths--I love the migration era and can't wait to see what's next. Could you cover the Sarmatian Alans-their migration, assimilation, and the forgotten medieval kingdom they left behind in the Caucasus. Or perhaps a video about the Franks and Anglo-Saxons? P.S. was Stilicho part Goth or part Vandal?
Part-Vandal
You're on a "sacking of Rome" streak rn
Damn you guys downplayed Stilicho badly here but alright he's Vandal anyways and this video is about the Goths and Alaric, so yeah nice video as always
@@maverick7291 well done 😀
Lawyers caused the cownfall
@@maverick7291 a vandal who was more roman than the romans themselves
Wasn't Flavius Stilicho of Vandal origin and not Gothic like you mention in this video?
He was and servied in Persian under king shapur the third
@Triballian Yeah, I've noticed. I call them a glorified wikipedia vocaloid. At least there are better channels around.
@@cardenevans6238 really? Stilicho serve under the Persians?
He was. There’s a Roman source that specifically mentions it. The roman writer Paulus Orosius directly vilifies Stilicho’s vandal ancestry, writing ‘Stilicho, who was sprung from the Vandals, that unwarlike, greedy, treacherous, and crafty race.’
@TheSerb what do you mean "purposely"?
Even today in Spanish-speaking regions some names that still retain a clear Gothic ethimology (such a Teodorico, Cleotilde, Raimunda, Berta, Hermenegildo, etc) are object of ridicule cuz they're associated with "rustic" people
Really? Interesting!
Kinda ironic considering most Spanish surnames are of gothic origin.
Even Carlos?
Rodrigo, also
12:02 Stilicho was of vandalic origin, not gothic!
Imagine if the Rome didn't kill Stillicho, form brotherhood with Alaric, and Goth further integrated to the empire
Stillicho may have kept the Goths in check.
That would have solved they manpower problems and maybe would have given the empire some fresh air to reform itself. We will never know.
Could have been the case like Crimean Goths who were integrated into Eastern Empire later on.
@@loopyprivate they were Tartars not Goths
Given how much the Goths were institutionalized by the Romans, their embrace of Roman laws, Roman military structure, and when they conquered Roman areas and governed by using Roman institutions, experts, and using the titles from Roman political offices, Rome's rejection of the Goths was a *major* mistake.
It's one of those what-ifs, like what-if Queen Amalasuntha in Italy, a stalwart of traditional Roman values, wasn't assassinated by Gothic nobles and managed to achieve their reintegration back into the Empire.
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I could argue these raids by the Goths into the Empire could be a prelude to what would happen in the Viking Age.
Yes, I agree. The Germanic invasions is like a 1000 year long-lasting domino effect, that just ended at the end of the Viking age
@@RandomNorwegianGuy. I am glad that you agree
Nice idea but no.
For first, historians are actually not SURE about the origins of the goths. Some theories are more plausible than others but nothing definitive has not been presented yet. Main source for the origin is their own historian who wrote about it centuries after in time when there was no written history, only oral. He talked about how "ancestors arrived with three ships to mainland europe." Three ships! And 400 years later there were tend of thousands, if not several hundred thousands, of them? How!?
Another thing if we assume goth originated from scandinavia is the time between these events. Millenia is far too long time to assume any culture born "trait to raid" to just exist. People and cultures mix, as did in the scandinavia. Also, at that time there was not written history meaning everything should be passed down during the generations by words and mixed with lore and stories. Back then, scandinavia was cold and bleak place with people fishing and hunting, not plotting generational raid invasions against europe.
These two events to be related sound nice but are nothing more. Similarities in these are coincidences happening across a millenia, not factual proof backed by *any* archeological findings.
I could argue that the goths that raided Rome were not even the same goths that started their journey somewhere in europe. They mixed and married with every single neighbouring tribe, as well as with romans for at least 400 years. Effectively diluting any genetic makeup of the original people down to nothing. Culture was there, genetics weren't. And even the culture could not be unchanged by centuries of affect from Rome and every other tribe next to them. So even that was not the 'original'.
@@alaric_ there is written history - Jordanes,Getica,555year.
It was translated by Wilhelm Martens in 1914.But he did a mistake and and "insula magna,nomine Scanza,....haec a fronte posita est Vistula fluminis" translated as "island Scandinavia lies in front of the river Vistula".Same mistake did Charles Christopher Mierow at 1915 and now all are loking for goths in Scandinavia,but for sure island Scanza is old prussian name of Curonian bay.
@@alaric_ You may be right but Tacitus famously wrote that the Germanic people didn't like to intermix which is why they all seemed to have the same features
This morning, Kings and Generals, i searched for your video about Alaric's sack of Rome and i realized that y'all haven't make it, until now. My prayers have been answered!!!
i honestly just love how much more history we have to cover, we are never gonna run out and it makes me happy. great video aswell love the history of the Germanic people, would love to see you cover the Dacians, Thracians and the other specific celtic tribes who invaded and settled in the balkan and anatolian regions, such as the Volcae, Boii and the later Galatians.
Another great video, as always. Thanks for taking the time to make these.
Goths! Alans! 💪
Plz make video about the Golden Horde, and Kipchaks. Thanks.
Alaric achieved something which Hannibal and Spartacus could only dream.
The Romans have lost the "infinite recruitment" cheat.
Which is ironic since Rome back then mostly just controlled Italy.
But Spartacus and Hannibal fought a Rome that was far stronger and more stable to handle such situations unlike Alaric. Alaric fought a weakened and badly decaying Western Roman Empire. At that point, it was said that Alaric simply walked into Rome itself without much resistance when he sacked the city (or am I mistaking that scenery for when Rome was sacked again in 476 AD which ended the WRE for good?).
Fun fact :
When he died ,Honorius regreted how incompetent he was ,he curse the goths who will fall because of one of his descendens.
And the arabs of Taric Ibn Ziad ,the bane of the goths ,were invited by a Julian a latin lord descendent from Honorius ,so ironically the emperor who could not defeat the goths was the one who led to the obliteration of the gothic germanics be the arabs.
Last time i was this early, Rome was still a republic.
Last time I was this early the Etruscans were ruling Rome.
Last time I was this early, the dinosaurs ruled Rome
Last time I was this early, Remus and Romulus were still suckling from the Capitoline Wolf’s teats.
KG is always improving its quality ....Am excited of how much it will improve on an yr
Rome: Let's fight Goths with Goths, what could go wrong?
Persia: ...
can you enlighten me a bit on that please? what is the event call?
@@horsearcher6852 I compared fighting with Goths in Rome to fighting with Greeks in Persia during Alexander. Greek mercenaries are given a good amount of credit for being the true downfall of the Persian empire because when they lost battles, they quickly sewed discontent (split loyalties).
But the joke works possibly in two ways because Macedonia borders Thebes, both of which were ravaged and settled by the Celts/Goths 300 years before Alexander. Look into the Dacians/Galatians, interesting stuff.
Thanks, great video as per usual!!!
"Civilization is a race between disaster and education"
- H.G. Wells
Looks like we are losing right now
@@lllPlatinumlll The good doesn’t wash out the bad, nor the bad the good. Many western writers supported the USSR up to a point, like Sartre for example.
Amazing video as always
Nice video (as always), but at least in the case of Late Roman Empire vids, again there are many factual mistakes.
For instance, Stilicho was not of Gothic, but Vandal origin. And his was only a half Vandal, although he was more Roman than some Roman senators, if we consider his government and care of the Empire. And the command of the army
No Gothic slaves joined Alaric in 408, but Gothic soldiers in Roman employ, who sought protection and safety in Alaric's army, following the assassination of Stilicho, and the purges of Goths and other barbarians in Roman service
Also the 405 deal with Alaric, which gave him the position of magister militum per Illyricum was an attempt by Stilicho to use Alaric in the potential war with the Eastern Roman Empire. Let's not forget that Stilicho as Honorius' regent had pretensions on the throne in Constantinople in order to unite the Empire
Alaric, on the other hand, did not want just land and gold. No, for him more important was the military command, which gave him access to a potential prominent career path within the imperial hierarchy. (same was with Gainas, Fravitta, or Modares, mentioned earlier in the video), the access to pay, to pay his troops (which operated within the Roman imperial military), and most importantly, a shot to the position of emperor's "regent" (there was no such official position - perhaps guardian would be better).
The latter put him into conflict with Stilicho, who as magister utrisquae militiae held that position being the emperor all but in name, and marrying two of his daughters to childless emperor Honorius. Which would, after Honorius' death, leave Stilicho's offspring as a legitimate emperor in the West (and perhaps even East after Arcadius' death in 408)
But then things went wrong. Alaric was not willing to cooperate, invading Italy again in 408. Stilicho's attempts to persuade Alaric to join in a potential campaign against Constantinople failed (Arcadius's successor was his underage son Theodosius II, and Stilicho saw an opportunity to unite two halves of the Empire) Meanwhile, Gaul was temporarily lost, being occupied by the forces loyal to Constantine III. At the end, Stilicho's plan backfired, and he was toppled down in the coup d'etat organized by Stilicho's enemies.
Alaric now saw an opportunity to take over Stilicho's position, which Honorius and his court were not prepared to give. Honorius briefly toyed with the possibility in 409, but he decided not to support Alaric's claim. Alaric then installed the puppet emperor in Rome, who gave him a much-wanted position. This made Honorius more open to Alaric's demands. By now, Alaric was done with Honorius, preparing to depose him, with Attalus (his choice) being the sole emperor in the West (while Alaric would be an actual leader like Stilicho). But the arrival of the eastern Roman reinforcements crashed Alaric's plans. Revolt in Rome that followed (as grain supply from Egypt was cut out), resulted in the fall of Attalus. With no emperor to back his claim, Alaric and his army did the only thing they could - sacked the ancient capital.
It is quite weird that in the video about Alaric, Priscus Attalus is not mentioned at all. I know there is a limited time, but that is an important historical fact. Especially if the topic of the video is Alaric, not Goths (who got too much space at the beginning)
At long last, Alaric’s revenge on the Romans is here.
@@comradekenobi6908 I'm getting good WaW memories.
The Roman Empire was always in trouble with nomadic warrior tribes. Every battle involves a really big fight.
They were fleeing the huns if I'm correct
Fascinating video. Can you please do a history video on the Galicians of North Iberia/Spain? Interested to know about Vikings settlement in Galicia.
When the goths sacked Rome they probably just avenged every tribe which was considered “barbarian” by the Romans and the mistreatment they suffered.
As much as I loved Rome they were cruel, condescending and filled with some much pride it defied all logic and as much as I love their history you are right in your assessment sir/madam
If I remember, "barbarism" is pretty subjective
@@hidof9598 what do you mean sir/madam?
@@nebsam7137 , I mean, the Romans considered everyone other than them, "Barbarians"
And as for other groups like maybe the Sasanians, they were selective in whom they considered barbaric
Indians and Chinese were exceptions to their outsider bias
@Abdul Jalloh yes I believe they changed the capital to a city in northern Italy (I can’t remember the name)
Thank you for this!!!
You said in the video that Stilicho had Gothic origin. Wasn't his father a Vandal?
Think he ment barbarian
Another great video. Just saying…A video on Stilicho would be most excellent!!
@Kings and Generals At 11:23 that banner reminds me of The Dacian ones(A wolf head meant to symbolise either wolfes or dragons along with that tail instead of a body) , and is also present on a shield at 13:34 and 15:25,never knew the goths used it, could it be because of the contact with the Dacians whilst they stayed there?
Also a video on the daco-thraco-ilyrian civilisation would be nice ,,
Nearly 2 million subs congrats :)
Stilico was their last line of defense, and once he was gone the west was living on borrowed time.
Another great video. Best channel on youtube.
Wars of Romans and Nomadic tribes. One of my favorite series.
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Great video today keep it up your doing amazing job
That ‘Media offline’ screen was unexpected.
Great synthesys, narration and montage!
Everything bad that has happened to Rome at that time was basically because people were treating each other like assholes. Be kind and watch how good the world can be.
If you go to Italy today, the northern part seems to be populated by Germanic peoples, despite the Italian surnames
This is more due to the Langobardic invasion, not the gothic one.
@@MMadesen Lombards ? Where are they from ?
@@kevinmoore.7426 They were a germanic tribe, which migrated south and eventually settled in the area of northern Italy. They mark the end of the great migration period and are indeed the namesake of the region of Lombardy.
Their name is thought to mean Longbeards (Langbart in modern german is pretty close to Langobard), so Lombardy would be the region of the longbeards, xD.
Italy is among the most mixed places in Europe. Aside from the Italic component present throughout the region, the North has noticeable Celtic and Germanic elements while the South has Greek and Semitic/Berber influences. Of course, many nations have different components. The Germans are Germanic with Celtic and Slavic components. The French are Celtic with Germanic and Italic components. The Russians are Slavic with Finno-Ugric and Germanic components. Etc. But Italy is moreso.
@Kings and Generals two sacks of Rome in a week? I think my heart's gonna break
LOVE this channel.
What is the name of that beautiful music in the background 7:30
Hell yeah! I looovvver u r videos a whole lot of benfitical
9:03 I like this banner ,it's called "dracon" and it seems that the goths were influenced by the dacians
Song at 6:02 ???
Please , it’s too good 😅
The sack of 410 was, par excellence, the first time that Rome and Italy were invaded and/or occupied since 390 BC! The two main occupations of Rome by the Barbarian forces throughout the 5th century AD, in my historical analysis, were extremely traumatic, something that has not happened since the Gallic invasion of 390 BC! However, unlike 390 BC, hardly would arise a "new" Furius Camillus in 410 AD.
Note: Throughout the Roman period, Italy was not just considered a Roman province, but it was also considered the "ruler/queen of the world" (RECTRIX MVNDI), the "motherland of all lands" (OMNIVM TERRARVM PARENS) and the "ruler of the provinces" (ITALIA NON EST PROVINCIA, SED DOMINA PROVINCIARVM). Italy, therefore, was the epicenter of Roman civilization and power. The Barbarian invasions of 410 and 455, therefore, were clear signs that the western part of the Roman world was already doomed.
However, the Roman Empire, as a political organization, did NOT cease to exist in 476, but only in 1453! The last Roman emperor, in turn, was not Romulus Augustus, but Constantine XI! Both the so-called "Byzantine" Empire (Βασιλεία Ρωμαίων) and the Catholic Church, in MY historical analysis, preserved the Roman ideal of civilization. In 476, therefore, took place the POLITICAL fall of the Roman Empire, but not the CULTURAL fall. Remember guys, Rome is not just a city or a political organization, but it is also an ideal and a CULTURE.
In my historical analysis, the Modern World has not yet fully "recovered" from what happened in 476 and/or 1453. Rome was, and it still is, a "synonymous" for glory, power and order!
Yup, the "Fall of the West" was more of a legal nomenclature thing. In the west, people like the Romanized Gauls still used Latin, Roman courts and laws, etc. The only reason why we have English was that the Romanized Britains weren't as capable of resisting like the Gauls or the Spaniards were, and able to have linguistic and institutional continuity with the Roman republican institutions. People in the west treated the post-476 landscape as just another kind of civil war thing, like when the west split up into the Gallic Empire, etc. in the 3rd century. I don't think it really died out until the Plague of Justinian hit further west in 530s/540s and just *wiped* people out and there weren't very many people left who *remembered*.
Yes i agree but, in your historical analysis, didnt byzantine institutions differ significatively from italic-roman ones? I mean, from 400bc to 400 ad you can ser how the roman state gradually incorporates New citizens to its political community, i know no such phenomenom in the byzantine period, they only stick to whatever political community they've already stablish, never expanding it, don't you think that's a significant institutional difference?
Byzantium's cultural understanding was way different from rome's. Mainly because they were greek and romans were latin. You can't say they were both culturally "roman". Byzantines thought they were romans but objectively speaking they were more greek than roman and/or latin in both tradition and language wise
You mean :western modern world*(although the renaissance, industrial revolution and classic liberal values are signs of recovery and revival), that's where the Roman civilization influence was prevalent, Europe was the realm concerned about the fall of Rome and Constantinople.
the rest of the world was having its share of successful civilizations and cultures.
This whole thing "rome did fall on 476" is total bs and i am tired of hearing it
Yes the Byzantine empire could be considered a "remnant" but it was VERY different from the previous one from the west
The West had a senate that shared power with the emperor the east did not the west was a stratocracy that fell bevause it run out of things to conquer the east was just a united monarchy that never attacked without a provocation and mostly stayed by it self without much campaigns the west was latin in culture and ethnic make up the east was greek in culture and make ethnic up
Please stop repeating this nonsense yes the two are related but they were VERY different
This is awesome, exactly what I was looking for in regard to my exam. Explained this so much better that 30 pages of texts 😖
My family for the last few hundred years lived almost entirely in modern Poland. After DNA research it seems like we have quite a bit of "Gothic" ancestry (at least in terms of genetic similarity). It seems like there is a general trend in history to downplay any "Germanic" element when it comes to Poland, which (while unsurprising) seems to do a disservice in terms of understanding the full background of the people there.
Been waiting so long for kings and generals to cover this 🍿
Next Video: Cilicia Armenia, the Armenian Kingdom in heart of Anatolia
As a Türk I would also wanna know more about that part of the Armenian history, how they survived Turks and Mongols
A state that I don't like much because they cooperated with the Mongolic states.
@@albatros33 what were they supposed to do?
Yes please!
@@SonKunSama The Seljuk Sultanate of Rum and the Empire of Trebizond.
The way you introduce the
story is always amazing !
Who write the script for Ks&Gs?
Enjoying this new series- Are the Ostrogoths up next?- Also I can't help but hope that this is all a set-up for a re-mastered retelling of Justinians wars or the rise of the Franks
I would love a video on how cities come back after being sacked, especially Rome the first time.
Good one as always. But this time a small error slept in: Stilicho was a Vandal by birth and not a Goth.
Stilicho was a Vandal. Vandals, as Gepids and Heruli were Gothic folks.
@@dittmannrudolfrohr2149 Yes. However the various tribes at this time diverged from each other that the distinction is probably neccessary.
@@ronin47-ThorstenFrank Accord.
The take-away of this video:
The Romans had it comin☠
another amazing video!
Me: “BE BRAVE, YOU CAN WATCH THIS!“
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As descendants of Portuguese I am a Visigoth. And the way my ancestors were treated was hideous.
@@darthvenator2487 mmm you're hardly a Visogoth. If you are Portugese descent you're DNA is mostly comprised of Neolitic farmers who came from Anatolia and settled throughout Western Europe (Ireland, Britain, France, Spain, etc.) bringing with them Proto European languages. Actually Portugese people share more DNA with Nroth African's than Germanic people. If you do have Germanic in you it would be a sliver compared to the rest of your DNA
@@brodieshawn63 well i do share North African ancestry and much more.
@@darthvenator2487 My point is it's ridiculous to say you're a visigoth when you share maybe 0.5% of DNA with them. And anyway you couldn't be one anyway even if you were more closely related, they were a culture not an ethnicity. That's like an Italian person today saying they are Roman.
@@brodieshawn63 But don't the Visigoths after the fall of their kingdom mingle with the local population of the Iberian Peninsula? You will tell me now that the French are not Frankish, or the English are not Saxon.
Please make a video on the 80 years war
Go on, say "Gothic music sucks" in front of Alaric, I dare you!
I know reality was different, but I like to imagine a bunch of modern Goths with black leather clothes and spikes accessories attacking Rome, just for the laughs.
Even better the OG barbarian Goths trying to enter the goth night club.
Nah, I got ya. Hell, when they were doing a series on the Vandals, I thought they meant kids with spray paints defacing walls.
There is an interseting story behind the relation of modern and old goths. I recommed watching Ted Eds videos on that, its really good!
Absolutely loving this
I'm Brazilian and I really love the history about the Visigoths and the Christian Reconquest in the Iberian Peninsula. These are very important historical events for every latin american. Too bad we don't know anything about it...
5:10 one thing I really like about the Goths is that they took from Rome everything that would make them stronger and more capable and left the things that were destroying Roman society from the inside out.
Have you guys ever thought of how the former emperors like Augustus and Trajan would react to this?
What is the coin noise from at 3:45? It is bugging me so much because it is so familiar.
Video about tocharians pleaseee!!!!!!!!!!
Mr. Garrison trying to teach a lesson on how Rome fell brought me here.
Would history be any different if the Roman's treated the Goth's much more kindly? What do you say? My compliments to all those who made this video a reality.
Hell, if Honorius didn't let Olympius convince him to kill Stilicho over comedically flimsy pretenses, the sack may not have even happened.
@@cloudftw113---I can see that actually helping. Thanks for replying.
the whole story would have been different if we had been kindly with each other...
@@mitzipitzi86---Possibly. Also thanks for the reply.
Well Documented And Narrated
why do the Goths have the Dacian flag? The one with the wolfs head and dragon tail?
Becouse they were Dacians. Dacians and' Illyrians were expeled from Balkan and lived in Panonian Plato. Ilyrians and Dacians joined aka Goths who were Balto Slavs. The graves of Wisigoths show they were R1a not Germanic tribes of R1b haplogroups. R1b lived at the West of Europe as Gauls.. Slavs among them were the biggest in bombers. I2a2 Ilurians and Dacians and Finns N1+ N2.
That's a Roman flag not Gothic. Romans used it after the Dacian Wars.
@@tinkywinky1238 this doesnt make sense, the romans have theirs eagle...dont they ?
@@mitzipitzi86 There weren't national flags back then. Different legions had different standards including wolves, boars, bulls, and dragons. The eagle was just the most widespread.
@@tinkywinky1238i know its not a national flag,but all legions have their eagle, even the ones that fight the dacians, and why depict the Goths holding the Dacian flag when loosing the eagle clearly ment big shame for the leagions and the romans
When will we get the next ottoman video can’t wait for Vienna 1683 and the winged hussars
Not a cell phone in sight, just people living in the moment