Straight Pull vs. Bolt Action Rifles: Which is Better?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 พ.ค. 2023
- In this video, we're going to compare straight pull rifles to traditional bolt action rifles using two .30-06 guns. Both types of rifles have their pros and cons, but which one is the better choice?
First, we'll take a closer look at straight pull rifles, using the Beretta BRX-1. These rifles have a unique design that allows for faster and smoother cycling of the action. This can be especially useful in situations where speed and accuracy are important, such as in hunting or target shooting competitions. We'll take a look at the Beretta BRX1 rifle. This straight pull rifle features a lightweight design, making it a great choice for those who need to carry their rifle over time and distance. The BRX1 also has a detachable magazine, allowing for quick and easy reloading in the field.
Next, we'll examine traditional bolt action rifles. Bolt action rifles have been around for over a century and remain one of the most popular types of rifles in the world. They are known for their accuracy and reliability, making them a great choice for hunting and long-range shooting. In this video, we use the Sako 85 bolt action rifle. This rifle has a reputation for exceptional accuracy and reliability, with a smooth bolt action that is both fast and precise. The Sako 85 also has a detachable magazine, and is available in a range of calibers.
Which one is better? As with most things, it depends on your needs and preferences. In this video, we'll go over some of the pros and cons of each type of rifle, including accuracy, speed, ease of use, and more. We'll also offer some tips for choosing the right type of rifle for your specific needs.
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Straight pulls are cool but I think a lot of shooters choose turnbolt for the satisfaction of nailing a reload on a really slick action, like how enthusiast drivers often prefer a manual transmission despite it being slower..
Just as satisfying on a nice straight bolt
@@kamferjau I’m not knocking them, they can be lovely actions, just saying that some prefer a turnbolt _because_ they’re harder to operate fast..
I think it has less to do with that and more to do with the proliferation or mauser-ish actions trickling down from service rifles and becoming the default rifle layour. They're generally cheaper to produce than straight pull rifles too. Fortunately it seems that straight-pull guns are going to become more common in the US.
@@Ben-rq5rechallenge is part of the fun 💪🏻
I’m a big fan of the Swiss straight pulls. The mechanism is just so nifty.
I prefer the mannlicher system, i'm a whore for austria.
Only gay people use bolt actions, cuz they ain't pulling straight 😎
Used own 2 K-31's regret selling them and not getting a commercial version back when I could; Neuhausen mfg for the latter IIRC.
I went austrian, steyr m95. Fine rifle
@@Manco65 Yea K-31s (own 3 mint ones) is a sweet action. But still like my 1937, 1943 german K98 better.
Just picked up a K31 yesterday, such a cool rifle, and the quality is absolutely astounding for the time. Mine has cleaner machining and finishing that a lot of modern firearms, and it was made in 1934.
I've had the same experience. For an infantry rifle (or any rifle for that matter) the attention to detail is much better than it needs to be, but that's part of why we love them so much.
The K31 is the next battle rifle I acquire. That rifle is just an amazing piece of engineering. Bonus: the Swiss never used corrosive ammo.
@@g54b95 yeah but they used cheaper steel when the times got hard in the later years or the war. my grandfathers K31 is one of the ones with cheaper material. look out if the manufacturing year is 1943-46, check the locking lugs for cracks and get a professional to have a look at it if possible.
the manufacturing year is behind the metal plate of the stock.
if you get a "bad" one i heavily recommend using good shooting glasses. it might not fail for decades, but when it faiks it would be catastrophic, with the bolt coming straight back into your eye/cheek.
Ever seen sporterized versions of this?
Might be a decent way to get one cheap for a hunting rig.
Even though I like some sporterized guns, I do not advocate sporterizing any older military rifle.
There's already enough bastardized ones of them out there if you want one.
James go to Finland visit Sako some day. They've just launched their new AR style rifles for the military too ;)
Sako, beautiful machines, fired many in my time in Europe all bolt action, phenomenal equipment with some of the most beautiful finishes!
Excellent video as always and great content. The BRX1 should be a good choice for a beginner to expert with limited time to spend at range.
World record for best visual aesthetic ever. Bravo. This is the Major Key of visual arts (minor keys sound like yeast infections). Ttyl
This was a good comparison of a straightpull vs a turnbolt with a traditional layout.
It would've also been interesting to see the Benelli Lupo in the mix, as it's a turnbolt with ergos tilted towards engaging moving game.
**Wholesome Content Award**
Honestly, this is exactly the kind of range trip that makes shooting so great. Just a couple friends being honest, supportive, curious, and educational about their experiences and interests. James continues to demonstrate what our entire 2A community should act like when we're interacting online, in person, or at the range.
The BRX is definitely an awesome design and will sell well. i like both.
As a pretty big M95 fan (the bolt is my profile picture), I must day that I'm real excited for this video and am rooting for the straight pull rifle lol
Straight pulls have potential to be great hunting guns. However, as the M95 showed the Austro-Hungarians, it can be a nightmare for maintenance in the field. Basically, removing the bolt was easy to do, but to put it back in, one would have to cock the bolt using nothing but the locking lugs and pulling it back hard while they twist in your hand until it locks open and you can reinsert it. Since its under spring pressure now, any slight bump on the bolt could easily snap it back so you'd have to do it again. It was a nightmare to maintain.
Excited to see more straight pull actions on the market. I just bought a savage impulse a few months ago and its been loads of fun.
Best video in a while. Well done.
Great video! I really enjoyed this one!
Always great when someone with knowlage shares his passion, and lets the products speak for themselves without forcing something down your throat.
A James Reeves Italian video calls for a pot of spaghettios and meatballs. Authentic Italian.
IMHO, that is realistic shooting/training. Not running around punching static targets. Thank you! I've coveted the Blazer R93 series since they were introduced, but everything i have from 17HMR to 458Lott is classic bolt. Thanks to Gunsight Academy and Cain Tactics, my wife and I are very proficient. Please do more "practical rifle" type videos.
In the 1990s I believe Mauser had a hunting rifle that was a straight-pull action.
It was Model 96. Blaser bought Mauser and did everything to downgrade it as not to be a competition. Model 96 patent rights were sold to minor Austrian player Rossler and is now marketed as Titan 16.
I have several classic bolt guns and bought a beretta brx in 300wm last autumn for driven boar hunt season in winter.
it’s nice to shoot when you need those fast follow up shots.
Definitely prefers straight pull. Would love to see desert tech or another company make a straight pull bullpup
FIMS firearms has a promising straight pull bull pup
Check out the savage impulse. The locking mechanism is like a hydraulic fitting
Very nice and intresting video, love the Bretta BRX-1. I'm sure that the straight-pull action is more easy and fast to use, but personally i still prefer bolt-action rifles.
Excellent video.
That Sako is so damn beautiful, I’ll take the extra time
13:18 and 13:38 "Oh man, am I getting a phone call in the early 2000's...?"
The advantage of a straight pull is that you don't naturally cant the rifle when you work the action with a bolt gun it's impossible not to.
its not impossible by any means but you tend to automatically and it takes a lot of time to get rid of that habit
Thanks for the video. I prefer the looks of the old K31, but the BRX1 seems like a great rifle. I probably won't be in the market for one, but I hope they succeed in the market.
If they had a wood stock to look like old k31s and m95s, I'd be fully interested
Hunting buddy of me has a BRX1, so I had a few shots with it too.
Solid rifle, just didn't like the hollow plastik feel of it.
Sooo I got a Haenel NXT. Straight pull, laminated wood stock, light and accurate.
I have a straight pull 22lr and love that thing way more than a standard bolt gun.
Fantastic video! Thank you! Real-world experiences showcasing different shooters' preferences and capabilities are always enjoyable.
Cupping the bolt knob with the palm on the Sako as soldiers were trained to do before WW-1 would have narrowed the speed difference considerably. The BRX would still have won on speed of follow-up shots. It would also feel much more natural to anyone accustomed to a semi auto. That said, the straight pull has a strong advantage in the ability to mount the scope lower as there is no risk of the bolt handle hitting the scope body. American shooters prefer in-line recoil and the straight pull excels in this aspect again, though with hard recoilers, there's a method for letting the rifle recoil upward while you quickly work the bolt open and then when you shut it, you can push the muzzle down with the front hand and the additional push with the hand working the bolt to line the rifle up to shoot a follow up - dispersing the recoil upward and away from the shoulder does hurt somewhat less.
Need to see straight pull vs lever action!!!
When I hear the Italiano music start playing I know there will be some gorgeous weaponry
And the brx1 has caliber change options as well. This vid got me wanting a brx1
A neat very interesting video and cool rifles and the topic.I like these Prosciutto and Prosecco flavoured videos keep them coming.These rifles were not the shorts CCW type of firearms but they do provide the ham.Have a good one Mr.James. Say when is the Beretta going to release a hammer fired 10mm pistol?What was the price of these rifles?Can you compare these Italian rifles with the USA made straight pull action rifles?
Mauser had a straight pull in the 1990s. Really wish I would have bought the one in 6.5 Swedish Mauser that I handled. Great comparison!
Lefties love that ambi straight pull!
Excellent comparison of the two types. As you said; there is no wrong answer. I do think I would have a shorter learning curve with the BRX.
Straight pull actions have the same drawback as lever actions. Neither design "cams" the bolt out of battery to extract sticky cases. I didn't appreciate this before 9-Hole Reviews tested a Winchester 1895 on their range.
Some straight pulls do cam sticky cases out.
@@kamferjau please elaborate. The '95 Mannlicher does not, nor the Lee navy nor the K-31 and its derivatives.
@@eloiseharbeson2483 So what your saying is the older milsurp straight-pulls have that problem. Meanwhile modern production straight pulls are using different designs that likely mitigate or resolved that issue entirely.
@@Verdha603 I was hoping that you could offer some examples. Since you can't, or won't do so, my comment stands.
@@eloiseharbeson2483 I believe steel action, strasser and lynx cams. Also radial locking on some straight pulls have a lot larger locking area and many times stronger locking and can handle much higher pressure.
I have only shot a straight pull once when my shoulder was busted so I couldn’t use it to it’s full extent but I always felt like the only pro was that you didn’t have the side movements when opening/closing especially with a stiff spring but that’s about all you can shoot just as fast with a bolt gun
There are so many great straight pull rifles. I'm very partial to t-bolts for small game.
I've always wanted to see a comparison of the ways bolts are manipulated in rifles in the same cartridge.
It could be centerfire or rimfire to allow the viewer to visually compare the following:
Bolt
Lever
Pump
Straight pull
Semi
This would allow us to see, which works well as to give the viewers a side by side comparison seeing people shoot at a moving target.
It might help viewers decide on a purchase.
The video itself was very interesting to me. Great content!
That Sako is Ill. Props to Beretta though for designing the BRX-1. I have always been a huge fan of straight pull actions like the K31. Both guns have a place and purpose in the firearms pantheon. Get both.
I like the straight-pull bolt-action the one change I would have is that I would have the handle on both sides on the straight pull. I would use the right handle if I'm standing and shooting. I would then use the left handle if I am prone using a bipod.
Amazing i gotta have one....Thanks.....
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awesome! saw far less fumbling with the brx1. love the k.i.s.s. principal so it's Beretta for the usability.
Thats standing up shooting on a moving target too. Great job from everyone
Italy keeps getting higher and higher on my list of places to run away to
Well, forget it if you plan on having fun with firearms.
Have a Savage 110 Tactical, and damn! Y’all are fast!😮
I think with a rifle equipped with a scope a straight pull makes way more sense than a traditional bolt action. However, on a rifle with iron sights or a red dot, you can work the bolt faster and more reliably.
My dualing pair is my Sauer 202 and my Blaser R93 LRS.
I have a Blaser R8 (straight pull) .308win and it is like a Swiss Army knife - it does most things depending on what ammo I stick in it. It is silent (when cocking), safe, fast repeating, high quality and shoots really well.
Been interested in double barrel shotgun. Just picked up a cz stagecoach with 30" barrels.
the M95 got me into the straight pull rifles, very neat but the rifle has a substandard ammo system, wish it was fed stripper clips
Quote of the Day: @6:40 “I felt like I was working it pretty well, but it’s like… you can short stroke it. It’s a lot easier to short stroke this thing.”
i like the K31 because of the loading sound to be honest
I have an addiction to straight-pull rifles, I have way too many Schmidt Ruben's said no it additc ever, but if we're going just on strength alone normal bolt actions would be better. But you give me the choice I'm going straight pull all day everyday to the day I die
Dudes pretty good nice rifle I’m going to buy a brx1 already got a sako 85
I’m a big fan of the Swiss k31 and it’s other models, sako and tikka are nice too!!
Wow I'd never though I'd see the day that Straight pulls come into their own... But here it is great video! Which I wonder if milltary/law enforcement snipers will take up stright pulls now or do bolt actions still have an edge like in relibitlity?
The only advantage bolt actions have anymore is its cheaper to make them stupid accurate. You can get a sub moa bolt action for under $600, sometimes even under $300 depending on the caliber. While a sub moa automatic costs thousands.
I would like to see this in 20ga, Texas public hunting is shotgun only in most areas for reference.
Do a burst fire and fully automatic fire comparison next, please!
Really?
@@BurninatorTheTrogdor Yeah, why not? It will be a good comparison video. It'll show the benefits of both firing modes
Under the bolt action video it looks like good joke lol.
Tanfoglio for life! 😁
Would love another run and gun
All straight pull rifles should have high combs like the Sakos. Especially, like here, where the action doesn't mitigate bolt travel. Same problem with the Savage Impulse. Compare that to a Merkel Helix but they're bucks up. Better stock design is a cheap solution.
Underwhelming as highly anticipated to be expected.
Wow 😮
I'd want one in a wood stock. Though I wanna see some videos of the action up close
Shot one at a beretta range day in March thing was sweet
BRX1 has great potential for driven hunt-definitely it’s quicker than bolt action. I’m not talking about maintenance and personal preferences.
"now that Beretta has a straight pull rifle."
*Savage: quietly sips tea.
Every shooter in this video struggled with the Sako magazine release. It requires push, clip, pull jujitsu maneuvers that usually involves both hands… this is a minor annoyance with the Sakos for sure.
Just the newer ones
These are hunting rifles. If you need to do a quick “tactical” magazine change because 5 shots didn’t get the job done, 99 times out of out of 100 you F🤬d something up. If you are hog hunting for pest control, a semiauto with a bigger magazine makes too much sense.
It looked like the bolt handle can be swapped to the other side with the BRX1. Since I shoot left handed, I kind of like that. I have avoided buying a dedicated left-hand bolt gun so that I stay in practice shooting normal guns, but if I could swap it as desired, that makes me way more interested.
Unsure as to how the safety or mag release is situated, but this may be a fully ambi gun.
The bolt handle definitely looks swappable as you said, so maybe a good choice for wrong handers.
I just saw a video on it, swapping the handle took about 10 seconds
That is awesome.
Swapping the handle is awesome but what is clever on the BRX1 is that you can change which side the discharged shell ejects on. That is a true ambi function.
What about comparing bolt action, straight-pull action vs semi-automatic marksman rifles
And pump action rifle
The real question is long term use.
As the straight back bolt has been used before in 90s by Mauser and was discontinued because the straight back developed head space problems with use. Where a traditional is locked in poistion so the expansion of gasses wouldn't blow the bolt causing head space gaps.
damn but that Sako looks schweet
In California, straight pulls usually refer to AR-15s without gas systems that are not SA--usually very accurate, reliable, and they allow one to keep all the "evil" features. I could see a strong case for such rifles since they offer a level of quickness for sport, hunting (hog, anyone), and even survival/self/civil defense in jurisdictions where SA rifles are highly restricted.
hi what rifle range were you guys at in Italy? i spend a lot of time in Italy and and looking for a good rifle range
I wish I had the means to have enough ammo to run tests like this. Already have plenty of the rifles, but I need to spread my ammo usage out between videos, due to my severely limited resources as a small time channel.
What distance was the target in this video?
Straight pull is more mechanically complex and expensive but the reason the military likes them is because it helps you maintain sight picture for follow-up shots. Bolt actions are going to be a lot cheaper and simpler to maintain and if you're a good enough shot you dont need 2. The only reason to get a straight bolt is if you think it looks cool. With proper training you can shoot a bolt action just as quick as a straight pull. However shooting quickly with the bolt action oftentimes leads to you and complete witness and bad locking.
Short and simple: buy a bolt action. Unless you're weird.
I've never used a Sako, but I think I need to. I am interested for sure.
That new Sako is gorgeous. However, I have a 1970s Sako A III Carbine that simply is a delight to shoot. The action is very smooth but also solid in a way I haven’t found in most newer bolt action designs. I think that the non-rotating bolt guide has a lot to do with it. (This was the last of the Finnbear actions.)
Is there a straight-pull Scout style rifle? Seems like they would go together like PB&J.
So cute to see James and his Italian lovers
Sako 85’s are Gucci rifles. Very refined, beautiful, expensive and lovely.
For a hard use hunting rifle that you need to drag through the bush and scratch the hell out of… perhaps the Tikkas and X-bolts are more practical for most hunters whilst being functionally equivalent to the Sako?
is it not a helical bolt movement?
interested how it differs from S-R and Ross
I have a stainless synthetic tikka t3x in 30-06 nice rifle
I would be interested in a deeper, dive into the mechanics of this. Specifically, how does the lock up hold enough to where the bolt doesn’t smack you in the face?
That is an interesting question. Savage and at least 1 other use ball bearings that are pushed outward into a circumferential channel for lockup instead of traditional bolt lugs. I don’t know why you couldn’t have a rotating bolt head (like a Browning BLR lever action does). I’d love to see a presentation on all the different ways to achieve bolt lockup in straight pull rifles.
I have the best bolt action rifle of WW2, according to Ian on forgotten weapons. The 7.35×51 1938 Carcono .
Would love to see this in 375 Ruger or 375 H&H for African big game hunting.
I have a Swiss K-31 Straight Pull & a Izhmash Biathlon Paddle Bolt Action in .22. They shoot VERY FAST & ARE VERY ACCURATE.
Could not afford the Straight Pull in this video, my Swiss I bought many years ago for $100.00. The Izsmash was $150.00 & came with a cleaning rod/kit in the box, Brand New.
Running boar is cool, wish it was still a thing here.
The cheapest way to get a straight pull:
1. get the cheapest semi auto rifle you can find
2. remove the recoil spring and weld the gas port up
3. you've got your straight pull that, with proper branding and advertisement, is worth $2000+
Your first motorcycle should be a dirt bike, your first hunting rifle should be a bolt action.
Why would you make that choice? I'm not sure being a good dirt bike rider makes you a better Street bike Rider? By the same token, a lever or pump-action can be a user friendly intro rifle action.
@@WALTERBROADDUS dirt has inherently less traction than tarmac so you learn how to handle loss of grip at slower and safer speeds
@@WALTERBROADDUS I started riding on the street first (1971 Triumph 500), then my Norton Commando. Then began blasting thru the countryside and sand pits on dirt bikes. No doubt that it makes you a better rider.
With bolt actions, I think watching these guys, (who are REALLY good), fumble with bolt actions like beginners, brought the same thing to my mind I guess.
Iron sights on it are nice.
Sans installing rails I don’t know why more manufactures don’t install irons as a mandatory practice
I love the Swiss K31
Damn Ricardo is a good shooter
It would help if you also pointed out any real negatives about the straight pull compared to a traditional bolt action.
is the BRX 1 already available in the United States???
I can see the rationale of this comparison and comparing the speed of the two rifles in a timed pressure test is valid. But I feel you need to follow up with an accuracy test of the two at 100m, 200m and 500m. Then average the accuracy and the speed tests together.
I would love a Browning straight pull that's marketed in Europe not the US.