I just got the Xtherm NXT and yes, it is much quieter. There is a different quieter and less frequent noise, but there it is. Can't wait to use in the field.
I had some interesting experience with Thermarest sleeping pads in winter which adapts to every mat as well. Because there is more of the mattress exposed to the cold air when you use the rectangular, your body has to heat it up more and there is more heat loss to the air. Therefore I would always go with the mummy version instead of the rectangular one.
Interesting observation. I have the largest kind of xtherm max with a dawn quilt, and I have definitely noticed drafts to be a potential problem. Especially in feet. I have since upgraded with dawn booties, and don't find this the be a problem any more, camping at negative degrees F (-20ies℃). If I wasn't too lazy to always strap my quilt to the pad every night, I probably would get the mummy shape. But I find that I move around so much that I sometimes even drop off my pad in some rare cases. I think the mummy would be a problem in that regard. But I am interested in testing your experience for my self, and see if there is merit to using a mummy shaped mattress to mitigate drafts.
@@___xyz___ I dont think he was talking about drafts, rather the exposed mattress cooling down the air INSIDE the mattress resulting in a colder nights sleep. You body heats up the pad and air inside it, with parts of the pads exposed to cold air it will be cooling the overall temperature of the pad down. With a mummy pad it would be fully covered by you and your bag/quilt so its not losing as much warmth.. I dont know this to be true but I could see the logic behind it. How much of a difference it makes Im not sure
I just opened my new Xlite NXT today. Having had similar experiences to yours w older Neoairs, I was hesitant to order. But my last sleeps on my Tensor v2 felt lumpy and squeaky. Upon initial trial and impressions the new NXT is way quieter and feels comfortable. 🤞🏻
I’m surprised they didn’t come out with this sooner. At 225 lbs the 2.5” thickness was fine for me. I’d like the added width so my arms don’t fall off the sides, but not sure it’s worth the extra weight. Nice review.
How come I can't find a short (50 -60" length) inflatable sleeping pad that is 25" wide? I know I can cut and reseal my inflatable to any length I want, but this voids the warranty. Why isn't there a short wide inflatable pad on the market??
The older one in the mummy-shaped Regular Wide option is the best choice for me. A rectangular pad is a waste of space and material. The mummy RW option is still the lightest and has the best warm-to-weight ratio vs its 3-season pad competition. I sleep with ear plugs in the backcountry (wind and birds but not bears, mountain lions or wolves in the Alps), so the noise was never an issue for me. No need to upgrade.
This one is the NXT Max. Max is for rectangular shape. Their also have a new NXT not Max, meaning it's still a mummy shape. So noise + weight reduction, warmth increase but price increase too.
Ya, Max just means squared off corners. It's a bit weird that the rectangular pads are separated out. I consider them all just to be Xlite NXTs - rectangular or mummy.
I finally have a pad that lets me sleep through the night too. My size large Thermarest Mondo King. Lol. Seriously. But in the backcountry my Uberlite was great, Xtherm okay, and Tensor Insulated is fsntastic. 😁
I have an x-lite, and the noise doesn’t bother me at all. It will be my go to pad for the next year. I also have an uber-lite and that thing is too fragile for my taste. Had one disintegrate on me already. They replaced it under warranty.
Is that Weaver's Needle in the background?? I just ordered this new NXT pad to compete with my S2S Ether Light... That 4" on the S2S is hard to beat though. Every inch counts ;D
I thought there was also going to be a 20" wide rectangular version of the NXT but don't seem to see it sold anywhere? The 25" wide looks nice but weighs 20oz, pretty heavy for a pad.
Exped is my favourite, ultra 5R wide Rvalue 4.8 655g. I don’t mind the slight weight, comfort is my thing. Tensor insulated Rvalue4.2 has multiple cold spots, at 0 C,but exped 5R is really comfortable at -5C. Perfect balance between weight warmth and comfort and of course price.
You have a knack for doing technical information videos in thorough way that I like. Good job. Unfortunately no one had the new X-Therm NXT in time for my departure so I got the ExPed 7 from my local REI. I’ll be trying it in the field soon so I hope it is warm enough for the situations I’ll be in which should be a bit above its R value temperature and problem free. It does seem comfy. Thanks
I’ve been seeing some exciting 2023 gear announcements. Curious if you will be trying the new Big Agnes Zoom UL Insulated pad (4.3 r-value and only 17oz for the wide!). NEMO also has an exciting tent release- releasing a few of their other backpacking tents in their OSMO fabric (poly blend fabric)! Their Dragonfly OSMO might convince me to finally give up my BA Copper Spur!
Great review! I'm considering getting one in near future, however I'm not sure about the size(I've been using so far large, but I'm trying to safe some space and weight) What is your height?
Firstly I'd just like to say you are an incredible content creator and I love your practical knowledge & expertise - keep it up! Then id just like to ask regarding the new Xlite NXT.....is there any upgrade on the finnicky air valve when combined with the pump sack? You said in your previous xlite review that the pump sack was prone to popping off when in use - is it better or any upgrades with this new model?
@@JustinOutdoors Thank you!! I honestly think you’re the best channel for gear advice. Unfortunately here in South Africa we can’t get 90% of the American/European brands but I still love learning about the gear and how you change it depending on conditions (not that it’s ever as cold over here in Cape Town/SA). But if you’re ever here for a visit, I’m taking you on a hike! Some incredible spots from coastal hikes to the Drakensberg to the Cederberg to the Kruger. Until then, keep up the absolutely incredible work!!
I keep wondering if they’re going to make an nxt version of the Uber lite, and I fully expect Justin to be one of the first people they give one to. Guess I’ll keep waiting before I spend that kind of money, but I’m waiting for it Justin.
Hated the x-lite. It’s awesome, don’t get me wrong, but not for me. Main issue was comfort. My arm kept falling asleep on it, and I had back pain. Just generally did not find it to be comfortable at all, which is a shame because the rest of its characteristics are best-in-class. Comfort matters. If you’re not sleeping well, you’re gonna suffer.
@@Ego-ist42069 I actually would recommend trying the x-lite or x-therm, a lot of people use these pads and they are very lightweight with good R-value. I sent back the regular x-lite and ordered the regular-wide to see if that will help with my arm/back issues. Just because I had issues with it doesn’t mean you will per say. I did also try the REI Helix. Insanely comfortable pad, better R-value than the x-lite, easier to deflate, but 10 oz. heavier which is a deal breaker for more ultralight backpackers. If weight is less of a concern I’d definitely recommend trying it. It’s also pretty inexpensive for a pad. Also check out offerings from Nemo, Big Agnes, Sea to Summit etc. there’s a lot of good stuff out there depending on your criteria.
Definitely a little quieter--had to listen with my studio headphones on. Here in Canada, this new pad doesn't seem to be around yet. I'm also wondering what the new RAB sleep pads will be like. I'd like to get a new pad before I venture on the Great Divide trail in March--which reminds me, I need to watch your video about your trip there.
Hey there. I have two thermarest pads from the early 1980's. The orange ones. Do you have any information on the specs of these pads? They are still going strong.
A those pads. Yes I have some information. Lets see. They were from the 80's. They were orange. And they were strong. I hope this was of any help for you?
I'm not sure how well the video captured how quiet the NXT is but when rolling around on and playing with it, I hear almost no crinkly noise. I thought Thermarest advertising a drop in noise was just advertising hype, but was blown away when I got to test the pad myself.
Would you say this pad (the xlite nxt max) can hold up down to around 10 degrees Fahrenheit like some charts say it can? I would get the xtherm as my ONE expensive 4 season pad but i mean it never really gets to single digits around me so i feel like its overkill. Thoughts?
No, I think 20F is kind of the limit. But it really depends on the ground. 20F in spring on wet/cold ground may not be possible whereas 10F in fall on warm/dry ground may be fine.
@@JustinOutdoors hey thanks for the reply, so would you say the xtherm version is good for year round? Im kind worried about taking it into the deep summer, but Im kinda worried about taking the xlite into the deep winter, you know?
Oh no why I'm watching this, I just bought 4 older version in last two years. Btw I also have one Nemo tensr, fabric is thinner than xlite, I had holes a few times, not doable as xlite
Other than 4.5 versus 3.5 r value and minimal weight difference, it’s nearly the same pad as my Nemo Tensor insulated regular/wide. But, I don’t think this is an upgrade given the baffles and fabric of the Tensor. Do you think it’s an upgrade?
The new Tensor has an r-value of 4.2, so very similar. The xlite is lighter and, in my experience, more durable. My tensor v2 failed and that has been the case for a lot of people out there.
@@chaseadventures that’s why I always use my gossamer gear 1/8th inch foam pad to put under it and I’m bringing it regardless because it doesn’t weigh much and I use it for other purposes
Horizontal baffles are terrible. I get super painful arms and shoulders sleeping on my side on the Xterm. I really wish Nemo or Exped brings out a pad that is competitive in terms of weight and R value.
@@JustinOutdoors it's annoying how Thermarest have been hyping NXT for ages premised on 'available Jan 1st 23' . ... And then along comes the New Year and nothing. I understand supply chains and manufacturering/logistical constraints I just wish they didn't make Jan 1st a thing.. Lol maybe I'm just mad at myself because I'd planned on Jan 5th to incorporate a new NXT Xtherm Max into a trip... Tell me that doesn't sound great for a snowy pitch! Serves me right for being so decadent and not being content with one of the 3 pads I already own !
Personally, I don't get the whole noise issue with any pad. By the time that my head hits the pad, I'm out like a light within a couple of minutes and for some reason, I get my best sleeps out in the woods. Pads are for sleeping. If the crinkle of a pad wakes somebody up, they got issues. LOL
The best argument for that which I've seen is that people wake themselves up rolling around in the middle of the night. That would be annoying. I dont really move around while sleeping so I cant say.
is it possible to blow up the neo air xlite nxt with the mouth without mold creating in the pad and without reduced isolation because of moisture going in the pad?
@@JustinOutdoors Thanks a lot for your answer Justin!! Ok no mold, but there is also no insulation problem with the pad if i pump the pad with the mouth?
@@Pasequale100 You may just need to add some air to it as temperatures drop as the pad will deflate a little bit as the warm air from your breath cools off.
@@JustinOutdoors i see you are the Best :) Thermarest responded to me like you :) Thanks for contacting us. Yes of course you can inflate your pad by breath! I've been inflating pads this way for 30+ years. If you're worries at all about mold - you can place a t-shirt or lightweight cloth over the valve and then breath air into the pad. It is very, very rare for mold to grow in the inside of a pad. We've been making a variety of pads for just over 50 years, and most have to be "topped off" with some breaths to fully inflate them. We've rarely seen issues with mold unless somehow water was allowed into the pad through the valve. Unless the pad is used in temperatures below freezing for many days in a row so the moisture in a person's breath freezes to the materials inside the pad and starts to build up over many days of use, there isn't enough moisture in a persons breath to build up over time. Otherwise the little bit of moisture in the pad leaves when the pad is deflated. Thank you, Steve Customer Service Rep 2
I got 9 hole after one night with the Tensor insulated. Production fault all at the same known spot. I did not have a proof of purcase. So didnt get a replacement….🥶
Check out my 2023 Ultralight Gear list where I feature the 2023 Xlite NXT and a bunch of other cool gear! th-cam.com/video/F5NANSiznNo/w-d-xo.html
I just got the Xtherm NXT and yes, it is much quieter. There is a different quieter and less frequent noise, but there it is. Can't wait to use in the field.
I had some interesting experience with Thermarest sleeping pads in winter which adapts to every mat as well. Because there is more of the mattress exposed to the cold air when you use the rectangular, your body has to heat it up more and there is more heat loss to the air. Therefore I would always go with the mummy version instead of the rectangular one.
Interesting observation. I have the largest kind of xtherm max with a dawn quilt, and I have definitely noticed drafts to be a potential problem. Especially in feet. I have since upgraded with dawn booties, and don't find this the be a problem any more, camping at negative degrees F (-20ies℃). If I wasn't too lazy to always strap my quilt to the pad every night, I probably would get the mummy shape. But I find that I move around so much that I sometimes even drop off my pad in some rare cases. I think the mummy would be a problem in that regard. But I am interested in testing your experience for my self, and see if there is merit to using a mummy shaped mattress to mitigate drafts.
@@___xyz___ I dont think he was talking about drafts, rather the exposed mattress cooling down the air INSIDE the mattress resulting in a colder nights sleep. You body heats up the pad and air inside it, with parts of the pads exposed to cold air it will be cooling the overall temperature of the pad down. With a mummy pad it would be fully covered by you and your bag/quilt so its not losing as much warmth.. I dont know this to be true but I could see the logic behind it. How much of a difference it makes Im not sure
I just opened my new Xlite NXT today. Having had similar experiences to yours w older Neoairs, I was hesitant to order. But my last sleeps on my Tensor v2 felt lumpy and squeaky. Upon initial trial and impressions the new NXT is way quieter and feels comfortable. 🤞🏻
I’m surprised they didn’t come out with this sooner. At 225 lbs the 2.5” thickness was fine for me. I’d like the added width so my arms don’t fall off the sides, but not sure it’s worth the extra weight.
Nice review.
How come I can't find a short (50 -60" length) inflatable sleeping pad that is 25" wide? I know I can cut and reseal my inflatable to any length I want, but this voids the warranty. Why isn't there a short wide inflatable pad on the market??
Hi Justin, how would you compare this in comfort to the Big Agnes Rapide SL? I am in serious doubt now....
The older one in the mummy-shaped Regular Wide option is the best choice for me. A rectangular pad is a waste of space and material. The mummy RW option is still the lightest and has the best warm-to-weight ratio vs its 3-season pad competition. I sleep with ear plugs in the backcountry (wind and birds but not bears, mountain lions or wolves in the Alps), so the noise was never an issue for me. No need to upgrade.
This one is the NXT Max. Max is for rectangular shape.
Their also have a new NXT not Max, meaning it's still a mummy shape. So noise + weight reduction, warmth increase but price increase too.
What tent is that? Awesome review wish it wasn’t so expensive!
Good video Justin! FYI - this is the NXT MAX. There is also a regular NXT which is more similar to the old model (mummy shape).
Ya, Max just means squared off corners. It's a bit weird that the rectangular pads are separated out. I consider them all just to be Xlite NXTs - rectangular or mummy.
@@JustinOutdoors they are just copying the stupid gimmicky tech model names. Like the Iphone 15 plus max ultra pro!
Is it worth spending a bit extra and carrying more weight for the rectangular version?
I finally have a pad that lets me sleep through the night too. My size large Thermarest Mondo King. Lol. Seriously. But in the backcountry my Uberlite was great, Xtherm okay, and Tensor Insulated is fsntastic. 😁
Just paid out for my first ever xtherm, I got the nxt max large... hopefully, it'll be worth the money!
Thats why its always best to be alone in the wilderness. My noisy pad doesn’t bother anybody, and nobody annoys me.
Not sure if I'd trade in my Nemo, but if I ever need to replace it I'll consider this one!
I have an x-lite, and the noise doesn’t bother me at all. It will be my go to pad for the next year. I also have an uber-lite and that thing is too fragile for my taste. Had one disintegrate on me already. They replaced it under warranty.
good vid, tks for putting numbers in grams and cm, I had two xlites so far, never bothered with noise :)
Is the new pad more comfortable than the Nemo Tensor Insulated? How do you like the wing lock against what Nemo has?
Is that Weaver's Needle in the background?? I just ordered this new NXT pad to compete with my S2S Ether Light... That 4" on the S2S is hard to beat though. Every inch counts ;D
Hell ya glad to see you down here in the AZ desert and looking forward to the future videos.
Hello, for sleeping in a hammock, wich one is better ? The new ? Thnaks from france
For some reason I really appreciate that you just cut your videos off at the end 😅
Is the uberlight going to come in a nxt version?
Taking the xtherm nxt max out tomorrow it feels so much warmer
I thought there was also going to be a 20" wide rectangular version of the NXT but don't seem to see it sold anywhere? The 25" wide looks nice but weighs 20oz, pretty heavy for a pad.
Exped is my favourite, ultra 5R wide Rvalue 4.8 655g. I don’t mind the slight weight, comfort is my thing. Tensor insulated Rvalue4.2 has multiple cold spots, at 0 C,but exped 5R is really comfortable at -5C. Perfect balance between weight warmth and comfort and of course price.
I just bought an EXPED with a R7 warmth rating on sale. Glad to hear you like yours, can't wait to try mine out!!!
Is it worth waiting for this one compared to the Big Agnes Rapide SL Long/Wide?
Placing the pad on that piece of ground shot my anxiety through the roof...
Why
@@dommie6darko89punctures
Thank you. Your reviews are always fair and informative. Keep the product reviews coming. 💯🔥🙌✊🙏👍
Non-inflatable options ? Motion sickness when attempting to sleep on inflatable mattress, due to brain stem stroke. Side sleeper also.
Nice video
What is the tent in the background? 🤩
You have a knack for doing technical information videos in thorough way that I like. Good job. Unfortunately no one had the new X-Therm NXT in time for my departure so I got the ExPed 7 from my local REI. I’ll be trying it in the field soon so I hope it is warm enough for the situations I’ll be in which should be a bit above its R value temperature and problem free. It does seem comfy. Thanks
Honestly I prefer exped after making the switch. Much more comfortable imo
@@tamie341 Yeah, the therm-a-rest pads are not comfortable at all for me personally.
Great review! May have to give the new version a try.
Will you review of Ionosphere 5 Sleeping Mat?
And they use the same r value scale?
Great video Justin! Thanks for sharing
I’ve been seeing some exciting 2023 gear announcements. Curious if you will be trying the new Big Agnes Zoom UL Insulated pad (4.3 r-value and only 17oz for the wide!). NEMO also has an exciting tent release- releasing a few of their other backpacking tents in their OSMO fabric (poly blend fabric)! Their Dragonfly OSMO might convince me to finally give up my BA Copper Spur!
all are yellow, interesting color! 😍
should i buy the neo air xlite it in MAX large or in Mummy large? it has the same pack size right?
Great review! I'm considering getting one in near future, however I'm not sure about the size(I've been using so far large, but I'm trying to safe some space and weight) What is your height?
5'10
Great video Justin! Do you know if MEC will have these in stock soon?
Hopefully next week!
The noise of the old version does not bother me in the least. I will keep mine until it is unusable.
Firstly I'd just like to say you are an incredible content creator and I love your practical knowledge & expertise - keep it up! Then id just like to ask regarding the new Xlite NXT.....is there any upgrade on the finnicky air valve when combined with the pump sack? You said in your previous xlite review that the pump sack was prone to popping off when in use - is it better or any upgrades with this new model?
same bag with the newer model so same issues!
@@JustinOutdoors Thank you!! I honestly think you’re the best channel for gear advice. Unfortunately here in South Africa we can’t get 90% of the American/European brands but I still love learning about the gear and how you change it depending on conditions (not that it’s ever as cold over here in Cape Town/SA). But if you’re ever here for a visit, I’m taking you on a hike! Some incredible spots from coastal hikes to the Drakensberg to the Cederberg to the Kruger. Until then, keep up the absolutely incredible work!!
@@brendonkassel6989eBay
Thank you so much for such great video
I keep wondering if they’re going to make an nxt version of the Uber lite, and I fully expect Justin to be one of the first people they give one to. Guess I’ll keep waiting before I spend that kind of money, but I’m waiting for it Justin.
Well there goes the signature feature of Thermarest pads, the crinkle crinkle sound :D
I see your in the sonoran desert! I live in arizona 😁
Hated the x-lite. It’s awesome, don’t get me wrong, but not for me. Main issue was comfort. My arm kept falling asleep on it, and I had back pain. Just generally did not find it to be comfortable at all, which is a shame because the rest of its characteristics are best-in-class.
Comfort matters. If you’re not sleeping well, you’re gonna suffer.
any other brand you recommend then?
@@Ego-ist42069 I actually would recommend trying the x-lite or x-therm, a lot of people use these pads and they are very lightweight with good R-value. I sent back the regular x-lite and ordered the regular-wide to see if that will help with my arm/back issues. Just because I had issues with it doesn’t mean you will per say.
I did also try the REI Helix. Insanely comfortable pad, better R-value than the x-lite, easier to deflate, but 10 oz. heavier which is a deal breaker for more ultralight backpackers. If weight is less of a concern I’d definitely recommend trying it. It’s also pretty inexpensive for a pad.
Also check out offerings from Nemo, Big Agnes, Sea to Summit etc. there’s a lot of good stuff out there depending on your criteria.
Definitely a little quieter--had to listen with my studio headphones on. Here in Canada, this new pad doesn't seem to be around yet. I'm also wondering what the new RAB sleep pads will be like. I'd like to get a new pad before I venture on the Great Divide trail in March--which reminds me, I need to watch your video about your trip there.
Justin is in B.C. Not sure how he got this, he never shares that information for whatever reason
@@christianb8228 He might have been sent it for a test.
@@andrejutras true
Hey there. I have two thermarest pads from the early 1980's. The orange ones. Do you have any information on the specs of these pads? They are still going strong.
A those pads. Yes I have some information. Lets see.
They were from the 80's. They were orange. And they were strong.
I hope this was of any help for you?
@@driewiel
Good laugh!!
If you had it that long you would know more about it than the manufacturer, Lol.
I'm glad that the new version seems still pretty noisy because I just bought the old version😂
I'm not sure how well the video captured how quiet the NXT is but when rolling around on and playing with it, I hear almost no crinkly noise. I thought Thermarest advertising a drop in noise was just advertising hype, but was blown away when I got to test the pad myself.
@@JustinOutdoors good to know! Maybe the microphone captured the noise too well.
Welcome to winter in Arizona! 😁
Hey Justin! Would you ever climb the seven summits? Or even just Mt. Everest?
Never say never, but probably not! haha
@@JustinOutdoors I understand lol but not even to Everest Base Camp?
Would you say this pad (the xlite nxt max) can hold up down to around 10 degrees Fahrenheit like some charts say it can? I would get the xtherm as my ONE expensive 4 season pad but i mean it never really gets to single digits around me so i feel like its overkill. Thoughts?
No, I think 20F is kind of the limit. But it really depends on the ground. 20F in spring on wet/cold ground may not be possible whereas 10F in fall on warm/dry ground may be fine.
@@JustinOutdoors hey thanks for the reply, so would you say the xtherm version is good for year round? Im kind worried about taking it into the deep summer, but Im kinda worried about taking the xlite into the deep winter, you know?
That new one is humongous tho.
Oh no why I'm watching this, I just bought 4 older version in last two years. Btw I also have one Nemo tensr, fabric is thinner than xlite, I had holes a few times, not doable as xlite
What tent is in this video?
I still don't get why they make it yellow. Shows up my sleep filth so badly
how does the wide pad work with a quilt? I've got an enlightened equipment enigma.
Works great! Just need wide pad straps
@@JustinOutdoors If a guy were to only have one sleeping pad for 3 seasons in the Canadian Rockies would it be this or the xtherm?
@@jonathansreynolds REI Helix! By far my favorite pad right now.
I love ur voice
Other than 4.5 versus 3.5 r value and minimal weight difference, it’s nearly the same pad as my Nemo Tensor insulated regular/wide. But, I don’t think this is an upgrade given the baffles and fabric of the Tensor. Do you think it’s an upgrade?
The new Tensor has an r-value of 4.2, so very similar. The xlite is lighter and, in my experience, more durable. My tensor v2 failed and that has been the case for a lot of people out there.
@@JustinOutdoors How would you rate the comfort between the Tensor and Xlite? Is there a big difference in that regard?
@@boone473 Tensor is more comfortable
Lots of people have had issues with the tensor getting tiny holes in it and deflating on them, never really hear that with Therm-a-Rest pads
@@chaseadventures that’s why I always use my gossamer gear 1/8th inch foam pad to put under it and I’m bringing it regardless because it doesn’t weigh much and I use it for other purposes
Horizontal baffles are terrible. I get super painful arms and shoulders sleeping on my side on the Xterm. I really wish Nemo or Exped brings out a pad that is competitive in terms of weight and R value.
How is it compared to the exped dura 5 or 6?
Much lighter, much warmer, horizontal baffles
When does the Xtherm Nxt drop for sale?
It's available through some retailers right now, but should be everywhere in the next week or two (from what I have heard)
@@JustinOutdoors it's annoying how Thermarest have been hyping NXT for ages premised on 'available Jan 1st 23' . ... And then along comes the New Year and nothing. I understand supply chains and manufacturering/logistical constraints I just wish they didn't make Jan 1st a thing.. Lol maybe I'm just mad at myself because I'd planned on Jan 5th to incorporate a new NXT Xtherm Max into a trip... Tell me that doesn't sound great for a snowy pitch! Serves me right for being so decadent and not being content with one of the 3 pads I already own !
How about the Xtherm nxt
What tent is that behind you?
REI Quarter Dome SL
Personally, I don't get the whole noise issue with any pad. By the time that my head hits the pad, I'm out like a light within a couple of minutes and for some reason, I get my best sleeps out in the woods. Pads are for sleeping. If the crinkle of a pad wakes somebody up, they got issues. LOL
The best argument for that which I've seen is that people wake themselves up rolling around in the middle of the night. That would be annoying. I dont really move around while sleeping so I cant say.
You should compare the nxt to other sleeping pads. Not gonna lie on video the nxt still seems very "chip baggy"
I will! Lots of new pads out in 2023
is it possible to blow up the neo air xlite nxt with the mouth without mold creating in the pad and without reduced isolation because of moisture going in the pad?
Yup! Mold isn't really an issue these days.
@@JustinOutdoors Thanks a lot for your answer Justin!! Ok no mold, but there is also no insulation problem with the pad if i pump the pad with the mouth?
@@Pasequale100 You may just need to add some air to it as temperatures drop as the pad will deflate a little bit as the warm air from your breath cools off.
@@JustinOutdoors i see you are the Best :)
Thermarest responded to me like you :)
Thanks for contacting us. Yes of course you can inflate your pad by breath! I've been inflating pads this way for 30+ years. If you're worries at all about mold - you can place a t-shirt or lightweight cloth over the valve and then breath air into the pad.
It is very, very rare for mold to grow in the inside of a pad. We've been making a variety of pads for just over 50 years, and most have to be "topped off" with some breaths to fully inflate them. We've rarely seen issues with mold unless somehow water was allowed into the pad through the valve. Unless the pad is used in temperatures below freezing for many days in a row so the moisture in a person's breath freezes to the materials inside the pad and starts to build up over many days of use, there isn't enough moisture in a persons breath to build up over time. Otherwise the little bit of moisture in the pad leaves when the pad is deflated.
Thank you,
Steve
Customer Service Rep 2
In comparison to the exped dura 8?
completely different use-cases
If you are serious about warmth, get a pink spoon!
You know it!
Your REI link is broken.
Thicker is not better for people who are just squeezing into shelter like myself.
I am more noisy than my sleeping pad that's for sure.
Thumbnail looks like The Simpsons
So expensive for sleeping pad
You out in the superstitions?
Why would you do a sound comparison and then talk for 60 seconds in between them
Just got a Nemo Tensor insulated in Regular Wide so I didn't watch the entire video.
I got 9 hole after one night with the Tensor insulated. Production fault all at the same known spot. I did not have a proof of purcase. So didnt get a replacement….🥶
Still bloody noisy !
Still noisy af
What about the noise difference between this and the xtherm nxt?
I have old version regular wide cheap on eBay brand new