The clip at 8:28 is Sonic Youth in Colorado. It's an overhung route right next to a river, so lowering off the anchor drops you right into the middle of the water
Funny story, I hiked the Grand Canyon. Zero issues going down but developed vertigo on a day hike on the second day. The hike out of there was torture. My body kept wanting to stop. Hands and feet were totally soaked in sweat. I was able to overcome it but at certain points I was worried I was going to get stuck on the trail. I had never had this issue on any other trails I have hiked. Very weird.
7 minutes there was a piece on the sandstone ledge he was standing on, it popped, the next one was the slightly more visible one that caught him right before impacting the ground. That Pulley Pop is a horrific sound
The sewing machine leg is not always connected to the hysteria ;) I sometimes have it due to some muscle thing... While belaying in a group of three (obviously securely tied into the anchor wit my daisy chain), my left leg started to have weird spasms. Probably I have just been tiring out some of the deeper muscles around the knee. Interestingly enough, the third person in the group with medical training, just pushed some pressure point and stopped that leg being a sewing machine. Anatomy is a weird and interesting thing...
Welcom back :) The climber at 6:50 had a peice to the right of their foot, which did pop. So they were not running it out, just had a bad placement or the stone gave way.
I climbed on conglomerate for the first time recently and have never had sewing machine leg so bad, I spent a ridiculous amount of time route searching in that maze of pebbles lol
I’ve had shakes a few times but 9/10 times I reposition which ever limb is shaking to release pressure off the nerve and then I’m able to stop the shake. Most times it’s because I’m on my toe with my foot at a certain angle.
The guy at 6:40 DID have a piece of gear pop out. It was right beneath him on the flat ledge he was right above. I have had errors like this happen with flat edges, as I think it can be hard to really test where the force of impact is.
The amount of force through his pulley dynoing off of the full or closed crimp is likely less than the force which would’ve been through should he have stuck the next hold reasonably open handed. This is unlikely to be an acute injury. A full and closed crimp is fine and often essential, but needs to be trained and employed appropriately.
@@Route_2_V11 need more proof? th-cam.com/video/-vfIAJbgwgQ/w-d-xo.html Full crimping is safe when done correctly. Use full crimp, just know what you’re doing.
I had a double pulley (partial) rupture on my pinky. My hand dry fired, but my pinky stayed on. Heard the pop and immediately came down. 6 months out, no climbing...it sucked
That pulley popping was awful. This is why, and why i tell my friends to go gradually. Do all of the routes of a grade, or at least a good many before moving on. I would do all v1s before attempting v2, 2s before 3s, and so on. Ouch.
Pulley strains and ruptures can just happen. Pro climbers get them, experienced amateurs get them; I've gotten two injuries in my hands/fingers (one pulley strain, one lumbrical muscle strain) and both times have been climbing below my limit after years of conditioning on harder climbing. The pulley injury I didn't even notice until a rest day when I started experiencing pain. Of course you can do exercises for injury prevention (and I had done) and climbing with technique that reduces risk, but bodies rebel sometimes.
I’m pretty sure this happens when there is too much force on your fingers when crimping. Very common injury with climbing unfortunately. Resistance training of the forearms may help, but those tendons can be very sensitive lol.
Opinion: the climber at 7:14 did a poor job falling by pushing off the wall so much. She still would've slammed the wall even with less slack (although the slack wasn't good).
Looks like she's falling on purpose, doesn't it? She jumps off, does this weird contortion at the end and then she's smiling... Maybe training the fear of falling?
Pretty sure @8:49 is in Malibu. Dude did that next to me when I was setting up TR. happy he didn’t get hurt but goddamn it would have been embarrassing if he did
When I was in jusha tree i led a nice 5.7 Mike’s books . 30 feet up got a crappy placement in the crack 3 feet up it drops out my partner did not have the hart to tell me till we were up to the top 😂😂
Checking out the new mercy. On mobile, I can’t tell which picture corresponds to which color from the drop down - can you do anything to help make this more clear in the description?
When I was at Uni there was a friend of a friend who fell off while climbing and left his thumb behind on the rock face. That's what they told me anyway. (He had no thumb). Super urgh!
Indeed, number 2 to me looks like the guy overexerted himself. I had virtually the same leg response when I was cycling last weekend and completed a hard section of road, so it certainly wasn’t because I was scared of being too high ;)
Are you sure that was a pulley popping in that dudes hand? I think maybe he was crimping and slipped. When his fingers hit his palm it made a popping sound. That in itself isnt good.
What an amazing defense mechanism! “I am very high up hanging off a ledge, better just knock the brain out.”
Well it got him down didn't it?
Fake as fuck
Not a defense mechanism obviously (since those are meant to keep you alive). More like stress/trauma overload resulting in vasovagal syncope.
First lead climb I did I had such bad sewing machine leg that I got nicknamed Elvis.
Hey BetaMan! at 7:02 his piece actually popped!. I think you missed the cam he placed 20 centimeters to the right from his right foot. Awesome video
Yep, one piece popped right by his foot. Thankfully the next one held or he would have decked.
6:30 ish, he has a piece just above the little ridge his right foot is on but it pops right out. Scary fall!
Good eye thanks! Yeah that was scary close. Could have used a few more pieces for sure
@@BetaClimbers it's a double fail with that piece, he didn't extend it properly and the rope is rubbing on the ridge !
@@MartyCoony Yeah, looks like it's moving around a lot before he even falls on it
The clip at 8:28 is Sonic Youth in Colorado. It's an overhung route right next to a river, so lowering off the anchor drops you right into the middle of the water
they who never WHIMPed, throw the first piece of gear.
Lol thats a good one
Mad episode. Climbing fails is my favourite series of the ones that you do.
The intro has been around awhile, but I still absolutely freaking love it 😂
Funny story, I hiked the Grand Canyon. Zero issues going down but developed vertigo on a day hike on the second day. The hike out of there was torture. My body kept wanting to stop. Hands and feet were totally soaked in sweat. I was able to overcome it but at certain points I was worried I was going to get stuck on the trail. I had never had this issue on any other trails I have hiked. Very weird.
7 minutes there was a piece on the sandstone ledge he was standing on, it popped, the next one was the slightly more visible one that caught him right before impacting the ground.
That Pulley Pop is a horrific sound
You just kept replaying that tendon pop... never stopped cringing 😖
The sewing machine leg is not always connected to the hysteria ;) I sometimes have it due to some muscle thing... While belaying in a group of three (obviously securely tied into the anchor wit my daisy chain), my left leg started to have weird spasms. Probably I have just been tiring out some of the deeper muscles around the knee. Interestingly enough, the third person in the group with medical training, just pushed some pressure point and stopped that leg being a sewing machine. Anatomy is a weird and interesting thing...
Yeah that’s true it can just be muscle fatigue as well 🤙🏻
I get the sewing machine leg from caffeine before climbing and sometimes its pretty bad and sometimes not.
Best climbing show out there.
Ouch to the last guy
Welcom back :)
The climber at 6:50 had a peice to the right of their foot, which did pop. So they were not running it out, just had a bad placement or the stone gave way.
You're videos are getting better. Keep up the hard work and it will pay off!
That was the most brutal pop I have ever seen!
These gear pops aren't THAT bad.
*Hears the pop*
AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!
I climbed on conglomerate for the first time recently and have never had sewing machine leg so bad, I spent a ridiculous amount of time route searching in that maze of pebbles lol
@4:34 those are some amazing climbing shoes, need to get me some
The jingle gets me every time! 😍👍🏻
Right on. I am in love with her voice too. Hugs
I’ve had shakes a few times but 9/10 times I reposition which ever limb is shaking to release pressure off the nerve and then I’m able to stop the shake. Most times it’s because I’m on my toe with my foot at a certain angle.
Great content as always. A great mix of humor and teaching. You have such a wealth of knowledge and experience.
The guy at 6:40 DID have a piece of gear pop out. It was right beneath him on the flat ledge he was right above. I have had errors like this happen with flat edges, as I think it can be hard to really test where the force of impact is.
Nice climbing shoes @ 4:20 😂
I didn't know about pulley injuries. Good to know how to avoid them. Just read about it.
Sound advice 🤣
they are scary. better not read, don't know about, can never happen ;)
Gut wrenching to hear that dudes pulleys pop, maybe cause he tried to dyno off a full crimp, NEVER FULL CRIMP!
Full Crimp is fine if you do it right
Never, never full crimp ;)
The amount of force through his pulley dynoing off of the full or closed crimp is likely less than the force which would’ve been through should he have stuck the next hold reasonably open handed. This is unlikely to be an acute injury.
A full and closed crimp is fine and often essential, but needs to be trained and employed appropriately.
@@Route_2_V11 need more proof?
th-cam.com/video/-vfIAJbgwgQ/w-d-xo.html
Full crimping is safe when done correctly. Use full crimp, just know what you’re doing.
What clip is that
I had a double pulley (partial) rupture on my pinky. My hand dry fired, but my pinky stayed on. Heard the pop and immediately came down. 6 months out, no climbing...it sucked
That merch looks sick!
I had the same during a hike on the snow
Thank you, man! 👍
Watching this after I safely completed a very nice Via Ferrata in Switzerland 🧗🏻♂️
Oh man, feels like its been ages since the last climbing fail video, nice to see a new one!
Doesn't a piece of gear pop on the ledge in the sandstone clip?
yes the piece by his right foot
3:50 you can't flash a route on your second attempt xd
I’ve had that sewing machine leg a few times. I think it’s partly physiological. If you weight that shaky leg it will usually stop.
Yeah it could also be from muscle fatigue as well I think. Would be interesting to find the science behind it actually.
Yeah at 6:56 you can see a piece that did pop but it's right by his right foot so he didn't run it out.
Man the intro is Legendary
That first case of w.h.i.m.p where is that i have seen that place in another video it looks crazy....anyone know where it is?
That pulley popping was awful. This is why, and why i tell my friends to go gradually. Do all of the routes of a grade, or at least a good many before moving on. I would do all v1s before attempting v2, 2s before 3s, and so on. Ouch.
So hype you're back 🙌🙌🙌🔥🔥🔥
My hands started hurting I knew I was pushing my self to hard. On a week break.
5:13 this is camp5 1utama Kuala Lumpur. Nice gym this is also the pro wall.
Pulley strains and ruptures can just happen. Pro climbers get them, experienced amateurs get them; I've gotten two injuries in my hands/fingers (one pulley strain, one lumbrical muscle strain) and both times have been climbing below my limit after years of conditioning on harder climbing. The pulley injury I didn't even notice until a rest day when I started experiencing pain. Of course you can do exercises for injury prevention (and I had done) and climbing with technique that reduces risk, but bodies rebel sometimes.
I’m pretty sure this happens when there is too much force on your fingers when crimping. Very common injury with climbing unfortunately. Resistance training of the forearms may help, but those tendons can be very sensitive lol.
4:10 No chance dude actually passed out. I was a paramedic for years, and that is not what a limp body looks like.
As he falls you can see his lead lift up slightly. Fake
The guy in the crocs passing out was one of the more foreseeable developments one could expect from this video...
And here I was thinking I was about to learn more about Weakly Interacting Massive Particles
Opinion: the climber at 7:14 did a poor job falling by pushing off the wall so much. She still would've slammed the wall even with less slack (although the slack wasn't good).
Looks like she's falling on purpose, doesn't it? She jumps off, does this weird contortion at the end and then she's smiling... Maybe training the fear of falling?
Hey was that pockets or resistance at the New???
Oooooooo man, that finger popping 😅 made my skin crawl 😖
Do a collab with hoopers beta! I bet he would have some good comments on some fails like that last one
6:44 the top piece by his foot popped... took me forever to see it.
7:00 it actually does look like there is a piece near the ledge that pops though? at least on my half screen potato here
Yeah I did miss that good eye lol luckily the next one held
Popped my A2 pulley on a mono pocket, and yeah it makes that sound :(
Josh there is a piece that pops on that sandstone.
At 7:11 the dude didn’t run it out, barely above the piece , looked to be places on the horizontal crack. The piece did blow though
4:04 Climbing with Crocs (or cheap versions of Crocs) seems like a bad idea that can give you W.H.I.M.P.
The clip at 4:10 is a joke made by bobreesecookiemonster and in Ninja boy, it's just acting
@ 7:07 there absolutely! 100% popped a piece. he wasnt far out at all.
Please! i need the video from minute 3:59 !!! where can i find it?!?! Thanks!!! great Video!
ha, I predicted a "pop" on your way out, I deserve a prize. ;)
The back-bending whipper looks heinous. Doesn’t look like the rope stretches at all once it catches. Could they have been using a static rope??
The song cracks me up every time.
Pretty sure @8:49 is in Malibu. Dude did that next to me when I was setting up TR. happy he didn’t get hurt but goddamn it would have been embarrassing if he did
When I was in jusha tree i led a nice 5.7 Mike’s books . 30 feet up got a crappy placement in the crack 3 feet up it drops out my partner did not have the hart to tell me till we were up to the top 😂😂
That was Wall Street Moab I let the one next to that 👍
(Led)
I didn't know you could scorpion like that climbing..
The shakyness doesnt need to be Psychological. I can get weird shaky legs in unfavorable positions. Super annoying
FYI, Pop sound vid, he dislocated his wrist when he pulled to reach up.
Crocs on the climb @4:29, hahahaha...
7:09 the guy wasn't running it out. He had piece just under his knee, which popped
Checking out the new mercy. On mobile, I can’t tell which picture corresponds to which color from the drop down - can you do anything to help make this more clear in the description?
same for me
2:08 i just think his muscle woke up wierd that day
When I was at Uni there was a friend of a friend who fell off while climbing and left his thumb behind on the rock face. That's what they told me anyway. (He had no thumb). Super urgh!
Thanks for more great content.
awesome video!
My friends call it Elvis leg.
“On his *next* attempt he *flashes* it”
Said no one ever 😉
7:02, no his piece popped like a foot or two to the right of his foot.
100% best intro song ever
Ha, @4:00 this is totally them just joking around. Bob Reese and JB, both freerunning athletes.
6:50 Looks like he had a piece right under his feet that did pop.
for me, the "sowing machine leg" happens when I'm really pumped or a load of adrenaline has hit me
Indeed, number 2 to me looks like the guy overexerted himself. I had virtually the same leg response when I was cycling last weekend and completed a hard section of road, so it certainly wasn’t because I was scared of being too high ;)
I like to call it " Elvis Leg"
What name of the song "If you forgot your grigri home"?)
Thanks for this awesome episode !
Didn’t find Huberts Beta or how is it called?! Can anybody help out?
Hoopers beta
Good job man
Love the intro song 🤩
Great Episode!
7:01 lol talking about missing something an u missed something lol he had a peice right by his right foot that popped
The guy on the sandstone had a piece right by his feet that popped
I get whimp all the time when I’m doing scrambles haha but never happens on a rope
Used to get it before rappells haha
Best cure to whimp is a big whipper
Exactly why would you push that hard off the wall lol 🤦🏻♂️ 8:00
7:30 Gilman Canyon?
"Yeah, okay. You might feel cool, but to everyone else, you look kinda silly."
I dunno man that was pretty slick 🤷♂️ haha
Depends if he had a back up lol 😂
Cool gear wall behind you
Thanks 🤙🏻
how i missed this.. i was just like: hey where's perry
Are you sure that was a pulley popping in that dudes hand? I think maybe he was crimping and slipped. When his fingers hit his palm it made a popping sound. That in itself isnt good.
Interesting Could be, but he looks at his hand like it’s hurt 🤔
I'm not ashamed to say it's happened to me. Sometimes fear and knowing when to turn back and save your life.
Right on!
A piece did pop and he was not run out it was right at his feet
Protection pop at 7:01 by his feet.
that piece did not hold it was to the right of his foot and popped out