@@immortalkiller7831 literally every 12 old berserk edgy boy be saying every other character is trash And they like to think themselves to be very MATURE
@@bluefire7700I think Guts said that to that Noble brat during the events that took a place between Guts killing Gambino and escaping the camp and meeting the Band during Golden Age
@fakemanspider4939 Well we should be glad they are still releasing vols, R.I.P kentaro miura i bet we would get chapters more frequently if he was alive
past thorfinn is menece bro if guts say it to his past version thorfinn kills him but if he calls his future version thorfinn would say why are you saying that with no reason nobody in this wold dezerves to get hurt lets be friends
@@irolxy thorfinn chose the violent life, guts was born into it molded by it and created by it. Your delusioinal to think kid thorfinn beats kid guts. Kid guts would clap him stop the fuckery because people are trying to be respectful toward vinland saga but you fools reaching so hard.
Thorfinn has better character development overall, why? I mean he changed into a blood thirsty kid wanting revenge unto a man who has finally found peace within his soul, guts on the other hand… bros not gonna be the same after the Griffith incident💀
depth to thorfinn (experiences of slavery after war, learning how its more meaningful to grow something rather than destroy it, Ideology of peace and freedom) and complexity to guts (the way he uses the beast of darkness to house all his past trauma and takes a metaphysical form to effect his decision making and thought process, uses the armour as a coping mechanism to let his rage out)
i think symbolism part is wrong how guts shows a human's struggle against god and griffith and everything and himself and saving his loved ones but thorfinn's symbolism is becoming the true warrior which is so important u can easily see in manga and the ideology part too thorfinn's ideology is becoming a true warrior and finding vinland and creating a place which no fight or war or slave people exist almost perfect country which is guts is fighting against apostles and humans and godhand themselves and saving casca and takng his revenge which is so hard for human İ think ideology goes to both and i wouldnt give the goal to thorfinn too thorfinn tries to become the true warrior which is so important for thorfinn and vinland saga verse and guts struggles against everything Humans apostles God hand and himself almost everything and never gives up and tries to take his revenge and savin casca İ think the point goes to both and introduction part goes to guts i think if u ask why just read A0 to chapter 1 and themes goes to both i think Cuz both has goated songs
Guts is the manifestation of human deepest emotions. Not many characters have barely 10% of Guts emotions. Even his Berserker Armor alone wins the emotion category.
IMO guts is a better mc mainly because of how complex he is. There’s so much depth to his character and the way he parallels Griffith in so many ways is outstanding. Both are life changing masterpieces but Guts def takes the win for me personally. Though I completely respect and see your POV
Nah, I am not hating but Guts Is Better than Thorfinn and the fact that Berserk Didn't Even Got Its End is already not fair. Also The Fact That VinLand Saga ended and won by "high diff" against a Berserk Who didn't even ended
I haven't read vinland saga but can't imagine someone topping guts introduction. being born from a dead body,under a dead tree with dozens of hanging corpses. Born still, brought to life to live in hell
@@immortalgod275 Explain your argument then, why is Guts the manifestation of humans deepest emotions? Emotions go to Thorfinn. His upbringing mainly led to this, due to his travels experiencing opposing ideologies throughout his life. Mainly during Farmland Saga arc he let everything catch up to him and grew his trauma, and defined his trauma rather than letting his trauma define him. This keeps going on as we go. The current Thorfinn isn't a clone of Thors that has no enemies. He isn't a demented beast, who would kill anyone or anything for personal gain, son of Askeladd. His current character is an incredibly fleshed out character influenced by multiple different ideologies mainly from Leif, Askeladd and Thors who we sees as his 3 mentors. Previously, he had a weird form of stoicism, stoicism being to learning to stop caring about things that doesn't matter. Due to his savage upbringing he was taught that human life didn't matter, therefor reaching a philosophy of "I don't care about anybody else's lifes as they are not important to me. I will take them for personal gain" as he did so many times, killing people for ex; a duel with Askeladd to get revenge for his fathers death and what he thought would be the end of his constant misery. (Which he later revealed that he was in constant misery when travelling with Askeladd, phrasing it as "Nothing good has ever happened in my life" in Farmland Saga) From all of this he started to grow, he moved on from his trauma and developed. He even further developed by learning and becoming more fleshed out from his past self, by meeting parallels of his past self. Like how Hild is a parallel of Thorfinn when he was younger. Thorfinn lost Thors to Askeladd and was blinded by rage and anger and had an immense want for revenge. Hild watched her father get killed by Thorfinn in his teens years a bit before Thorfinn got his first rematch as a teen against Thorfinn. Thorfinn killed Hild's parent and then delivered the line "I am the hunter, and you are the hunted. It's as simple as that". Hild then spent a large portion of her childhood wondering why Thorfinn did what he did. After learning about the world she came out with the conclusion that it was for no reason. That he just didn't care about humans life, and how that was an unforgivable sin. Due to this she was filled with rage and want for revenge, just like how Thorfinn was. The reason it's a parallel is because she wasn't blinded by it like Thorfinn was, that being the reason she beat Thorfinn, where she then, with a crossbow to his face said "I am the hunter, and you are the hunted. It's as simple as that". The exact line he delivered. Even further the parallel of them having multiple dead father figures guiding them, like how Hild's trainer and father both guided her even after being killed by Thorfinn and the gang, leading to her eventually forgiving him, a parallel to how Thorfinn grew from learning from the opposing ideologies from his father figures.
On the one hand, the journey of a boy who was forced to survive in the worst possible way and who grew up as a man with relentless determination and whose destiny is to fight those who took his humanity from him, but with the only thing he knows for sure that maintains, hope. On the other hand, the journey of a boy who witnessed his father vanish before him, grew up as a murderer blinded by anger and pain, with the sole purpose of taking his revenge at all costs, and matured as a better man again in search of redemption and to leave behind his agonizing past, even if he came back again, to the point of wanting to eradicate what made him take that path stained with innocent blood. Both stories share similarities, although with different developments, but there is no doubt that what makes them special and unique is the way in which we can feel identified in one way or another, there will even be people who right now feel the same as Guts or Thorfinn they felt at the time, and the very human way in which each one of them evolves is proof that we too can change and be better people. That is why no work is better than the other, both provide an equally acceptable vision.
This song goes so well for both of this characters who went through hell not once but many time. I hope no one has endure the pain of what these to characters have been through
I wander how many guys from the comment section read Berserk ,until the last chapter, cause for sure they don't know what are they talking about. Guts is the embodiment of strength, power of will and determination . I wish to know if you think Thorfinn will survive at merely a half of what Guts has been through starting exactly from the beginning in the same manner, i mean when Guts has been born from the corpse of his dead mother by himself alone ,,starting from here''.
Thorfinn dosen't have to survive Guts suffering. Because everyone has his fair share of pain. Both struggle in their own way, fighting to achieve happiness and peace.
Na minha opinião os meus protagonista preferidos são: 1⁰Guts 2⁰Musashi(Vagabund) 3⁰ Baki Hanma (Baki séries) 4⁰Johnny (Steel Ball Run) 5⁰Goku/ Kakaroto Obs: ainda não li Vinland saga, por isso o Thorfij não apareceu aqui Ainda
whatever your favorite is, nothing changes the fact that these are well-constructed characters to make you feel emotions, as opposed to anime characters that focus on power, scaling and other crap to not show how mediocre the character devolpment actually is. fire video🔥, anyway, can anyone tell me the name of the guts animation?
At the end of the day both are Goats, they never will fithg who's better written or fithg for who is more stronger, because they both will respect the other, but anyway that's my way of think, and remember no one deservs get hurt, be kind and found happiness. Pd: Good edit bro 🗿
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Guts vs Thorfinn ❌️
Guts 🤝 Thorfinn
No one has enemies
W my friend 🗿
no one has enemies untill the most stupid and unrealistic edit drops
Song name ,?
@@Goku-black_12Summertime Sadness
@@Bloodwolf1472 thank you so much bro
Shonen fandom : who is strongest 🤓
Seinin fandom : who is better written 🐐
Bro it's equally as stupid debate
You can talk about your favourite but most just disrespect the other
@@akhandtripathipyz9888The seinen fandom has no disrespecting other seinen characters
@@immortalkiller7831 literally every 12 old berserk edgy boy be saying every other character is trash
And they like to think themselves to be very MATURE
@@akhandtripathipyz9888 Sorry to tell you but they aren't from the fandom
@@immortalkiller7831 cope your fandom sucks as much cock as the rest of em. What a shock that the internet can be cancer again
Thorfin- Life is hard isn't it.
Guts- Yes I know.
Good to read that an Indian also have watched Berserk and Vinland Saga.
@@AyushRana-xt6eh same here bro
@@AyushRana-xt6ehRead*
@@himanshurohewal1623 🗿 🗿
@@AyushRana-xt6eh 🗿 I am from india too brothers
When i grow i want to be spiderman ❌️
When i grow i want to be happy ✅️
Holy shit, it hurts 💔😢
Even Spiderman wants to be happy 😭
@@Downstreamers568true 😔
"You were the strongest armour, cause you are the weakest".
-Guts
Thorkell: 🗿
@@saulgoodmansfingerr8527nah bro really said it
@@bluefire7700I think Guts said that to that Noble brat during the events that took a place between Guts killing Gambino and escaping the camp and meeting the Band during Golden Age
Chitch Flashback 😭
Thorfinn: I have no enemies
😔🥀....
Guts: Everyone is my enemy 😈
Guts:The whole world is my enemy and I'm a walking target
farmland saga vs Berserk☠️🗿
Stop forcing thorfinns agenda on guts, guts always has enemies we want him to crush Griffith
End of the day, both these characters are beautifully written. Enjoy them instead of arguing lads.
W comment
Can’t really enjoy guts when it takes a 10 months for one volume
@fakemanspider4939 Well we should be glad they are still releasing vols, R.I.P kentaro miura i bet we would get chapters more frequently if he was alive
Guts: i have no reason to kill you
Thorfinn: yeah you are not my enemy, we can be friend
Black swordsman guts :"your dad died because he hated violence ha what a weakling"
past thorfinn is menece bro if guts say it to his past version thorfinn kills him but if he calls his future version thorfinn would say why are you saying that with no reason nobody in this wold dezerves to get hurt lets be friends
@@irolxy thorfinn chose the violent life, guts was born into it molded by it and created by it. Your delusioinal to think kid thorfinn beats kid guts. Kid guts would clap him stop the fuckery because people are trying to be respectful toward vinland saga but you fools reaching so hard.
@@irolxyi like both but guts has destroyed building lvl apostle thorfinn isn't winning physically against him,
@@yuichi_katagiri thorfinn is so fast that he can kill guts in a few seconds but in strenght and durability i agree
Vinland Saga season 2 left me with all the emotions a human being can experience
Berserk left me with nothing but trauma
Thorfinn vs Guts ❌️
Thorfinn and Guts ✅️😢💔
A true man doesn't need to disrespect or compare legends
- I want to be better person
Thorfinn ~
- I want to be happy
Guts~
True' legends ❤️
What is the meaning of life?
-Musashi Miyamoto
Thorfinn has better character development overall, why? I mean he changed into a blood thirsty kid wanting revenge unto a man who has finally found peace within his soul, guts on the other hand… bros not gonna be the same after the Griffith incident💀
@Brody2sleazy have you actually read berserk? Seems like you have only watched the anime, considering the way you described guts' journey
Peak🤝Peak
We don't compare the seinen big 3🗿
Name of 3rd one please 🥺
@@itachisama3105Vagabond by Takehiko Inoue
@@arnavmishra786 thanks 👍
The sadness in their eyes with this songs breaks my hurt 💔😢
depth to thorfinn
(experiences of slavery after war, learning how its more meaningful to grow something rather than destroy it, Ideology of peace and freedom)
and complexity to guts
(the way he uses the beast of darkness to house all his past trauma and takes a metaphysical form to effect his decision making and thought process, uses the armour as a coping mechanism to let his rage out)
When legends are compared, no one talks about power
i think symbolism part is wrong
how guts shows a human's struggle against god and griffith and everything and himself and saving his loved ones
but thorfinn's symbolism is becoming the true warrior which is so important u can easily see in manga
and the ideology part too
thorfinn's ideology is becoming a true warrior and finding vinland and creating a place which no fight or war or slave people exist almost perfect country
which is guts is fighting against apostles and humans and godhand themselves and saving casca and takng his revenge which is so hard for human
İ think ideology goes to both
and i wouldnt give the goal to thorfinn too
thorfinn tries to become the true warrior which is so important for thorfinn and vinland saga verse
and guts struggles against everything
Humans
apostles
God hand
and himself almost everything and never gives up and tries to take his revenge and savin casca
İ think the point goes to both
and introduction part goes to guts i think
if u ask why just read
A0 to chapter 1
and themes goes to both i think
Cuz both has goated songs
I ain’t reading allat
themes isn't musical theme.
its the main or underlying meaning/idea that a writer explores from a character
what a save thx man
@@Hinji_TSW No one is forcing you either
In my opinion thorfinn should get symbolism
Never compare goats
Sadly Guts currently look to still be alive. Meanwhile Thorfinn is closing in on the end.
I love how there's barely any toxicity. goats fr
Finally someone that compares character writing and not their stupid strength
In my opinion Guts wins this with high dif, if I am gonna put them in order I'd say
1. Musashi
2. Guts
3. Thorfinn
Video:❌
THEY ARE TWO BETTER PROTAGONIST IN THE MANGA🤝🏻
One of the most beautiful and emotional edits.....
The song and the edit are so calming😊😊
You know the song name?
@@maswijayafirdaus4959summertime sadness
@@maswijayafirdaus4959 summertime sadness
@@maswijayafirdaus4959 song is summertime sadness
@@maswijayafirdaus4959Summertime sadness overlapped
Bro this is the real versus
Emotion go’s to guts
Guts is the manifestation of human deepest emotions. Not many characters have barely 10% of Guts emotions. Even his Berserker Armor alone wins the emotion category.
Agreed
@@GutsandBlood231not really thorfinn far more emotional his backstory isn’t as tragic but the execution and the way he grows is far better
Song name ?
@@Antonio21563 did you watch vinlad saga
I have no enemies 🗿
IMO guts is a better mc mainly because of how complex he is. There’s so much depth to his character and the way he parallels Griffith in so many ways is outstanding. Both are life changing masterpieces but Guts def takes the win for me personally. Though I completely respect and see your POV
NOBODY ASKED YOU BROO DONT COMARE THEM THEY ARE GOATS OF ANIE HISTORY
@@nikolasavic1504 Fix your spelling
"We have no enemies."
W edit and GOATS DON'T FIGHT
Sauce for Guts and Thorfinn animation/edit 👀
Thorfinn has had a way bigger impact in a way shorter time frame ngl
yea well, hard to make a big impact as a "lone warrior" against a world of monsters and gods
“I have no enemies”
“GRIFFIIIIIIIITHHHH!!!!!!”
Guts = Thorfinn ❤️🩹
They are an equal cause don't wanna disrepect none of them both are goats 🗿
Agreed. Wtf this dude doing. Guts deserve more
Guts = Myusahi = Thorffin = Tenma 💖💖
No
Guts = Musashi = Thorfin = Tenma = Kenji💖💖
@@badassperson kenji gigachad
@@badasspersonguts = thorfinn = tenma = kaneki
I haven't read vagabond
Wow finally who knows Tenma is goated
Tenma and Kenji are underrated protagonists
*I have no enemies* vs *I have no enemies left*
He has enemys left Millionen of enemys
Even thorfinn can't forgive Griffith 🙂
I have never read vinland saga before,but if you are claiming that Throffin is better written than Guts himself,then it must be fucking worth reading
Nah, I am not hating but Guts Is Better than Thorfinn and the fact that Berserk Didn't Even Got Its End is already not fair. Also The Fact That VinLand Saga ended and won by "high diff" against a Berserk Who didn't even ended
W
Imo Introduction, Peaks and Emotion to Guts
But still a valid take
Guts > Thorfinn very high - extreme diff for me
Both goats fr
guts introduction was literally him clapping demon cheeks
It's a true man's calling 😤
Thorfinn my favourite anime character
And finally kindness wins
Nah in berserk kindness didn't won 😢
Just beautiful❤
Ahh thorfinn's face😊
What is this? A competition of whose sadder?
I haven't read vinland saga but can't imagine someone topping guts introduction. being born from a dead body,under a dead tree with dozens of hanging corpses. Born still, brought to life to live in hell
My man really give emotion to vinland sara._.
it's about the protagonist, not the whole series and yeah, thorfinn takes emotion here, bro regained his emotions
@@darkking3442lmfao guts is literally manifestation of hu
an deepest emotions
Thorfinn has like 70% of guts emotions at best
@@immortalgod275 i get where you are coming from but it isn't the same for me, and others
@@immortalgod275
Explain your argument then, why is Guts the manifestation of humans deepest emotions?
Emotions go to Thorfinn.
His upbringing mainly led to this, due to his travels experiencing opposing ideologies throughout his life.
Mainly during Farmland Saga arc he let everything catch up to him and grew his trauma, and defined his trauma rather than letting his trauma define him. This keeps going on as we go. The current Thorfinn isn't a clone of Thors that has no enemies. He isn't a demented beast, who would kill anyone or anything for personal gain, son of Askeladd. His current character is an incredibly fleshed out character influenced by multiple different ideologies mainly from Leif, Askeladd and Thors who we sees as his 3 mentors.
Previously, he had a weird form of stoicism, stoicism being to learning to stop caring about things that doesn't matter. Due to his savage upbringing he was taught that human life didn't matter, therefor reaching a philosophy of "I don't care about anybody else's lifes as they are not important to me. I will take them for personal gain" as he did so many times, killing people for ex; a duel with Askeladd to get revenge for his fathers death and what he thought would be the end of his constant misery. (Which he later revealed that he was in constant misery when travelling with Askeladd, phrasing it as "Nothing good has ever happened in my life" in Farmland Saga)
From all of this he started to grow, he moved on from his trauma and developed.
He even further developed by learning and becoming more fleshed out from his past self, by meeting parallels of his past self. Like how Hild is a parallel of Thorfinn when he was younger. Thorfinn lost Thors to Askeladd and was blinded by rage and anger and had an immense want for revenge. Hild watched her father get killed by Thorfinn in his teens years a bit before Thorfinn got his first rematch as a teen against Thorfinn. Thorfinn killed Hild's parent and then delivered the line "I am the hunter, and you are the hunted. It's as simple as that".
Hild then spent a large portion of her childhood wondering why Thorfinn did what he did. After learning about the world she came out with the conclusion that it was for no reason. That he just didn't care about humans life, and how that was an unforgivable sin. Due to this she was filled with rage and want for revenge, just like how Thorfinn was. The reason it's a parallel is because she wasn't blinded by it like Thorfinn was, that being the reason she beat Thorfinn, where she then, with a crossbow to his face said "I am the hunter, and you are the hunted. It's as simple as that". The exact line he delivered. Even further the parallel of them having multiple dead father figures guiding them, like how Hild's trainer and father both guided her even after being killed by Thorfinn and the gang, leading to her eventually forgiving him, a parallel to how Thorfinn grew from learning from the opposing ideologies from his father figures.
@@stonae.I aint reading allat but i agree
Thorfinn: I have no enemies
Guts: You are not my enemy, you are my worthy friend
😢
Where'd you get that guts animation?
Link
two incredible works
Awesome creations 😢❤
Both are just goated no need to compare them. Best mc and best written mc.
Guts after killing Griffith and Godhand members and the Idea of Evil and all Apostles: I have no enemies
Forgiveness vs Moving on
Editors starts anti-guts arcs💀💀💀
On the one hand, the journey of a boy who was forced to survive in the worst possible way and who grew up as a man with relentless determination and whose destiny is to fight those who took his humanity from him, but with the only thing he knows for sure that maintains, hope.
On the other hand, the journey of a boy who witnessed his father vanish before him, grew up as a murderer blinded by anger and pain, with the sole purpose of taking his revenge at all costs, and matured as a better man again in search of redemption and to leave behind his agonizing past, even if he came back again, to the point of wanting to eradicate what made him take that path stained with innocent blood.
Both stories share similarities, although with different developments, but there is no doubt that what makes them special and unique is the way in which we can feel identified in one way or another, there will even be people who right now feel the same as Guts or Thorfinn they felt at the time, and the very human way in which each one of them evolves is proof that we too can change and be better people. That is why no work is better than the other, both provide an equally acceptable vision.
Development: THORFINN❌
Development:BOTH🤜🏻🤛🏻🤝🏻
Best edit ever i seen
This song goes so well for both of this characters who went through hell not once but many time. I hope no one has endure the pain of what these to characters have been through
"I have no enemies" vs "I can't escape my enemies"
I have no enimies 🐐
I want to be happy 🐐🗿
Nah bro i can't choose one of them, both of them are so good both wins
Peak🤝Peak
the cc is too sick
Thorfinn🤝Guts
Best duo ever
Wheres the guts picture from?
It's like i like chocolate and you like vanilla. No comparison
Vanilla is better tho
Both better than shonen characters
I hope they both gonna be happy one day..
This video would have been 1000x better if it was never compared because both are underrated.
Overall themes to Thorfin.
Emptiness, vengeance, and pacifism > revenge, guilt.
song name?
Sumner time sadness slowed
Where did you find the animated Berserker avatar?
Thorfinn : But i have no enemies -
Guts : same, but they will blow a bullet in our head if we dont do it for the edit thorfinn
Both are GOATED
I wander how many guys from the comment section read Berserk ,until the last chapter, cause for sure they don't know what are they talking about. Guts is the embodiment of strength, power of will and determination . I wish to know if you think Thorfinn will survive at merely a half of what Guts has been through starting exactly from the beginning in the same manner, i mean when Guts has been born from the corpse of his dead mother by himself alone ,,starting from here''.
Thorfinn dosen't have to survive Guts suffering. Because everyone has his fair share of pain. Both struggle in their own way, fighting to achieve happiness and peace.
The guts animation used first where to find that
Guts:i have bitches
Musashi joined the chat and hugged them 🗿
Where can I download these animations?
Where did you get the guts animation?
Chads has no fighting. They kiss and hug🗿❤
W 🔥
Song name?
No way this guy gave the highest rated manga on the planet (berserk) less points than vinland saga (thorfinn)
It's not determined by what's more popular
@@sanji-kun. not more popular, better rated by far xD
@@shuurai8089 actually, rated is kind of popularity if we see as ratings are from the fans only
Introduction: Guts
Themes: Thorfinn
Development: Thorfinn
Dynamics: Guts
Parallels: Guts
Dialogue: Thorfinn
Symbolism: Guts
Backstory: Guts (easily)
Ideology: Thorfinn
Emotion: Thorfinn >=
Journey: Guts
Goal: Thorfinn
Peaks: Guts
Impact: Guts
Guts wins extreme diff
Incredible edit! Love it. Can i use your audio, i'll credit you of course
Na minha opinião os meus protagonista preferidos são:
1⁰Guts
2⁰Musashi(Vagabund)
3⁰ Baki Hanma (Baki séries)
4⁰Johnny (Steel Ball Run)
5⁰Goku/ Kakaroto
Obs: ainda não li Vinland saga, por isso o Thorfij não apareceu aqui Ainda
“A true warrior doesn’t need a sword”
whatever your favorite is, nothing changes the fact that these are well-constructed characters to make you feel emotions, as opposed to anime characters that focus on power, scaling and other crap to not show how mediocre the character devolpment actually is. fire video🔥, anyway, can anyone tell me the name of the guts animation?
At the end of the day both are Goats, they never will fithg who's better written or fithg for who is more stronger, because they both will respect the other, but anyway that's my way of think, and remember no one deservs get hurt, be kind and found happiness.
Pd: Good edit bro 🗿
Both are equal both are goat🗿
Nah bro we don't do this here, leave it to the naruto and OP fans, GUTS = THORFINN = MUSASHI
chads don’t fight 🗿
The Guts downplay in wis is wild as shit
I would say guts is better but their both amazing
Guts>>>>>>>>>>>
Видно что ты русский клоун
Thorfinn=Guts
@@Mokip00Guts>>>>
@@rickkcir2 for me no
@@rickkcir2 Thorfinn is a better character, Guts serves as a better main character
I want a anime of guts,thorfinn and musashi ..all together live as happy friends...
Where is the guts animation from