This too, is my story.. Childhood polydrug survivor here. I finally came off my benzos of 25+ years in 2019, but was on a cocktail of meds prescribed by child psychiatrists at the tender age of thirteen, and those medications along with misdiagnoses destroyed my developmental years. It all left me uneducated, socially, emotionally, and academically delayed for years to come. The side effects were horrendous and sadly nobody knew better and nobody listened. I have to believe most of those involved had set out to help me in the state I was in, but unintentionally caused more harm than they would ever be able to conceive through the mistakes that transpired. She is telling almost the exact same story as what happened to me... **tears streaming** Kassie you're are my absolute HERO! Thank you, thank you, from the bottom of my heart for sharing your story! You will never know how profoundly your story has resonated with me and touched my heart! I wish I could tell you how valuable and impactful watching this interview is and has been. Much gratitude and healing wishes to you, as you continue to heal moving forward one day at a time.. As I continue my healing journey back to myself after psych medication injury and trauma. I will think of you and other survivors strength and determination and ultimately our resilience and will to survive and endure the unimaginable. Much admiration, respect, and appreciation for your life story... You deserve so much hope, joy, and happiness in the future! I feel your circumstances have shaped you into becoming what you now will be able to be to others in similar circumstances: an advocate and a voice for patients who are silenced and disbelieved after misdiagnoses and poly-drugging, especially for children who are so vulnerable. Again, please, please know. This story has had a tremendous impact on me and knowing it has happened to others, especiallythose who were also children when it all began... Just as the doctor mentions, Laura Delano's story comes to mind as during this time of healing I have taken to researching stories with similarities to my own. A process in which has aided my own healing..
Thank you too for sharing your experiences. After 5 years (since 2019) I hope you have been able to find the joy in life that was taken because of these drugs. Prayers for you that the time ahead will be filled with the peace that you deserve.🙏
At an early age, you were considered troublesome, and thus got handed over to credentialed authorities - who Labeled you and began drugging you with neurotoxic drugs. Why weren't you and many others assigned to aesthetic Talent Training Classes, which Howard Glasser details in his 1st book Igniting Greatness?!
I am a therapist and have been in the field for forty years . I watched - in horror - as the field of psychotherapy was medicalized . I used to be able to explain to people what could be causing their symptoms, and the many alternative ways issues can be addressed, and people used to be relieved . Now the medicalization of all things is so acculturated- it’s a massive industry- that people now are suspicious of me when I explain the DSM, insurance industry, and why things are now the way they are . Its tragic. So many “professionals” play fast and loose with diagnosis, and often say , “it runs in the family” without a lick of genetic testing having been done . I see this type of training wreck often , and it’s harder to address these days . I get met with , “You aren’t a doctor”, which is a good thing in 2024. Far more common than biological psychiatric issues is complex trauma.
Since SSRIs, mood stabilizers, benzos, and then, more appropriately stimulant meds (which I’ve since stopped taking), I have trouble expressing myself verbally, though I can write just fine. It’s a thing.
Me too. My memory sucks now. It's difficult to talk off the top of my head but I can write a response and edit it, still takes me awhile though. I used to take pride in my speech and eye contact but I can't anymore.
I’ve read in a book, Body Keeps the Score, in which it shows several times that psych drugs don’t show any noticeable help to children that have been sexually abused and in many cases the drugs make things worse.
@ yes. The author is Bessel van der Kolk. The author saw the limitations of psych drugs. The huge thing that bothered me while I read the book was that the author never took the drugs himself to see the danger that he and other historical top shot mental professionals were dealing with. A huge flaw of mental health history is that the drugs actually cause massive problems and heavy withdrawals when taken away and switched around.
@@NormaJean951 there are all kinds of books out there about psychotropic med injury written by mental health professionals. There are books written by, and entire websites with board members, whom are doctors and healthcare professionals dedicated to helping those injured by psych drugs written and created by Psychiatrists, psychologists, MDs, social workers, PhDs. Nurse practitioners. Dr. Mark Horowitz, Dr. Peter Breggin, and Dr. Josef here, just to name a few. It's a growing force of trail blazers and whistle blowers trying to make positive change in this growing epidemic of pscyh med harm. It's bigger than the opioid crises.
I am 34. On meds since I was 14. Just because no one helped me. Endet it last year. The SSRI, the antpsychotics, the mood stabilizers. I did it all on my own. I was on let's say 20 different meds over the years. But I am struggling with the benzos so much, I am so damaged. I tapered a lot, but too fast so I am still on 30 mg. Every day is pure terror.
You’re literally an addict. Just like the ones you see on the street. You need to check yourself into a rehab facility. You cannot just wean yourself off benzos. Are you buying pills off the street?
Great interview. I listened to it twice. I hope psychiatrists in training are listening. Thanks for highlighting the intensely negative effects of medication mismanagement in children. And thanks for interviewing someone with antipsychotic experience
Words of encouragement: you can find purpose through your pain, don't give up, stay alive. Find support. You are worth saving. Also @29:31 I meant to say base high-school. Still working on nerves and public speaking.
Dr Josef, I really like the skit you put out in where the psychiatrist looks at the paperwork and it has arrows that go from checklist, then to diagnosis, then to medication. We all know where the funnel leads. Thanks for doing what you do. I myself have never been on these drugs, but have been denied a physiological diagnoses and medical testing for breathing and heart issues due to doctors and nurses believing they were somehow psychiatrists, even having a nurse write 'autism' on my papers then discharging me when I had severe breathing issues, and having specialists, doctors, nurses, everyone write 'anxiety' on my paperwork over and over, to the point where I had a pulminologist referring me to a psychiatrist even when there was clear evidence of physiological breathing issues on a pulmonary function test. I was even convinced the psychiatric industry is evil, but I realize that it's really just the med industry that has it's tentacles around the whole system. If psychiatry could get rid of the drugs, then all these false diagnoses would go away too, you wouldn't even have ADHD, ADD, etc... There are studies on literally every physiological disease in where they wrote in the buzz word 'anxiety', into heart, lung, brain, all these disorders. It makes me think, what if you have pre-parkinsons or pre-als these days? Can you even get a neurologist to do the testing on real physiological issues? Then, I learn from you the people that have to go through withdrawal symptoms for years. Being a cripple for the last year myself due to having the issues I have, I feel a bond with these people, and want to help people taper off of all of these meds, and honestly would love to see the psychiatric industry abolished completely at this point in favor of therapy that actually cares about people, as well as proper diet, and community support systems.
You really need to educate yourself better. ADHD is real. Medications help people all the time. You have never even tried any medications despite many people telling you that you have severe mental health issues. You are a classic case of a patient that refuses to accept their limitations. You are absolutely too ignorant and weak minded to accept that you have no idea what you’re saying. You go and harass all these specialists, insisting you have issues that are all in your head. Everyone thinks you’re crazy and instead of accepting it, you move on to the next doctor. This level of aggressive ignorance is truly the hardest part of working in mental health. People like you need the most help but are so mentally ill that you refuse to accept it.
@@NormaJean951 This reply is truly vile, but telling. It seems my assessment of you in other threads was correct. It's a vibe, you're a type. Don't feel too bad. The rest of us will do the work and fix things while you work through your whole "you" thing you've got going on.
@@Acetyl53 Think it probably got deleted, whatever they said in response, I stand by exactly what I said, the point being we need to do away with all of these medications and either reform or even get rid of the psychiatric industry (if it won't change).
Write it for yourself first. You can use google docs with voice typing. Just talk, and it will write it. You can also use AI tools to clean it up, or ask it for suggestions, etc.
@@Tomsaulkwriting is hard. Writing with no emotional support is near impossible. Especially with side effects. My restless legs, tinnitus, and brain fog alone make daily life a hellscape, but the answer is always simple, sounds easy, risk free and it is anything but any of those.
Horrendous, evil system, drugging all who need help, we live in such a corrupt, perverse world.. I always felt there is something wrong with all this assessing children's behavioural problems...a trap.
If boys are distracted and girls are sad - have them sing in a chorus after school every day. Aesthetic talent training is the key - Howard Glasser takes this up in his 1st book, Igniting Greatness!
This is a very brave girl and good questions from Dr. Josef- I'm not finished it yet but it's very interesting. I hope she realizes she can do anything if she got through this! I'm sorry you were put on these medications. You are very articulate and you tell your story with alot of honesty.
Thanks for sharing your story. I began hearing about the difficulty of coming off the medicines when my daughter went to college around 2007. Her friend tried to come off a large dose of Prozac, cold turkey I believe, and I think she gave up on getting off them. Even on the meds, she couldn't enjoy a typical college schedule. The exhaustion really robbed her of opportunities. I am all for them if they truly better a person's life. Such a shame because she was such a brilliant beautiful girl. I am sure she has had many successes in life but I remember her needing a well deserved private dorm room so she could take long naps in solitude.
Thank You 🙏 Lord, and please, please continue to keep a hedge of protection around this young lady, and I pray that the truth about these drugs will outweigh the insane Frankensteinish inhumanity of drugging children!! My ❤is achingly saddened because there are so, so many of us out there who have been damaged by this.
@@BigDaddyBostinthey certainly do help people. They help scientists, doctors, pharmacy company owners, investors, and employees, they help media and advertizing companies, they help teachers and parents that have difficulties with getting their kids to sit still, be quiet, and be invisible. These drugs certainly help loads of people, just least of all the people being made to take them
There's spectrums to everything, psychiatry can be detrimental just as it can be helpful it's really up the individual rather they can even get anything out of it but it's up to you and the therapist sorry if you had an adverse experience while some can be disgruntled the vast majority just want to help and are doing the best to help so I'm inclined to believe there's some misconception present here or generalization regardless. It's same with pharmaceuticals what really matters is your mind set approach access to information preparation for experience and expectations with the long term properly conceptualized they can really help but without all that addiction can be easy to slip into so it comes down to being taught how to think in the first place that seems to be lacking. Much love just working to help
I wish the doctor would ask if the adults or people living in the household were smokers, there's a mention of a close relative dying from lung cancer. It is important to establish how insidious tobacco products are around children, and how the physiology of mothers and fathers is affected prior to having children and after the birth of a child, and how this can effect a developing young brain. In my personal experience, both the tobacco industry AND big pharma (and also the food industry) are three heads of the same diabolical beast, that eventually lead people into these difficult situations. My god, some of these people who run and operate these business institutions are responsible in a twisted and warped way for worse destruction on planet earth than the Nazis were.
Tobacco is literally nothing compared to the others. It's of the same "type", but it doesn't even compare. It's the scapegoat they put out there to make it look like regulation does anything.
Unfortunately, I also have a similar story in adition to alot of heinous abuse that happened in those hospitals. What they do to children to make money is worse than how they treat criminals in jail. Your a prisoner and forcibly drugged to zombification which is how you lose your autonomy which is the human rights violation that should be punished. The Constitution of the United States clearly states that every citizen including children has the right to the pursuit of life, not mention liberty (freedom) and the pursuit of happiness. There should be no legal right to zombifiy a child for all their developmental years no matter how much money they could make from it. It is not morally right or legally right yet happening.
Public school for many kids, especially in the city, is like child prison, and then if they speak up to teachers they have found a way to write all sorts of things on their papers, send them to even more awful schools, call them a delinquent with ADD, ADHD, 'autism' and then give them all sorts of meds very early and physically damage their brains, then that kid just ends up an actual delinquent for the rest of his life. Perfectly innocent children horrifically go in sane, and come out criminals by the time they grow up. I worked as a school bus driver and bus monitor at one point, and drove the so called delinquent little kids to school and they were pretty much on a fast track to gangs, crime, drugs for the rest of their lives.
@@Mothyonethose anticholinergics should all be illegal. Nothing but chemical l0b0t0mies. And kids don't know what's what. Their abusive parents are going to side with l0b0t0mization, and the kids won't know the difference.
Thanks for sharing your story. I'm 11 years out from going cold turkey off the cocktail of psych meds I was started on after masses of childhood sexual trauma and then another awful month with yet another family member that was just my breaking point after everything else. What I think about my drug journey now is why didn't anyone care or help me deal with all the trauma? That piece even though it's what I knew and kept saying was the cause was totally ignored and I was diagnosed with pretty much everything but full schizophrenia over the more than 13years in the system. In my protracted withdrawal years the thing that kept me fighting for survival was knowing that it was the abuse and drug injuries ( I just knew I was brain damaged from it all) not actually ME that was the problem. I don't know how I got to that point of knowing that it wasn't me after all the years of being told it was me...but it was the hope that I could become more ME in time that kept me fighting through so many awful days. Even now l, hearing about some of the symptoms you experienced I'm able to think....oh so that was another symptom from the drugs... I think I'm always going to have some brain damage and my physical body is wrecked from it all and there's nothing I can do to get back all that or really ever get back the arrested development I experienced from being drugged from teen years all through young adulthood. My life was living alone in isolation or being on psych wards and day programs...so I missed everything normal through those years. But the ability to think well enough now to make a plan of action and eventually carry it out and follow through is something I truly value having back again. I just wish doctors etc would believe me when I say that everything that happened to me in the psych world was what disabled me. If things had been handled differently and I'd been actually listened to and been able to get help to get safe from my family of origin when I first touched into the system my life could have been so much better. My brain is slowly healing but it has been so hurt and all the abuse means I have an awful lot of heart healing to go still. But at least off meds I was able to figure out how to finally get safe and I'm slowly building a good life for myself. I won't let them ruin my life.
I question if any exist, given how many people in this country support concentration camps for "illegal" immigrants, the exhaustive abuse of med school, the prevalence of lead, and the narcissists' ability to pretend to care.
There are millions of people that have been helped by medications. It’s crazy when you make claims like this, without even being able to understand how vital medication is for people who are truly struggling with mental illness.
When I was 15 I was put on 5 different psychiatric medications. I went to the DR because I thought meds were the only my thing that could help me. Nothing helped me because I was still learning ways of coping with stress. So when I came in the DR only upped my dosage or put me on another medication. I was on Xanax, Busparone, Abilify, Lexapro, and Seroquel. I took myself off because I was even more mentally unstable than when I started. It’s been years and I feel better than before even with way more stress in my life. These medications do nothing to help you deal with the challenges of life. My psych dr only wanted more money in his pocket.
I wish I could hug Kassie. I went through something very similar, lost my precious college years. I hope she is doing good now. (havent finished the vid) Sometimes I feel that i died when I tried to suicide, and I am in hell rn.
They gave me anti-psychotics for anxiety caused by several decades of severe abuse. Right after I escaped from a hospital where both staff and patients were regularly abusing me (and each other), they decided that I needed anti-psychotics lol.
@@astrahcat1212 No worries, I refused to take that garbage anymore after the first month. I've already been off it for a while. The cure was worse than the disease it was supposedly treating.
The absurdist nature is almost comical, but fact is these people are extremely dangerous and their mentality has to be dealt with. It's a severe..... disease.
@NormaJean951 Okay, this was a girlfriend. This girlfriend had a mother. "Girlfriend's mom" is someone guys know. Well, if her (mom's) close friend was over a lot and had a child with issues, this guy might well know. He might have seen the kid a lot. A kid that won't talk is pretty distinctive. Didn't you all hang? Or is it Screen Life now?
That’s exactly what happened to me too. I started antidepressants at 14 in 1983 for mild to moderate social anxiety, then the sedation and sleepiness from them was misdiagnosed as depression which caused more sleepiness which was misdiagnosed as worsening depression so more and more drugs were added until I slept all day and had to do in SSI. My weight ballooned, I was put on Metformin for diabetes and Synthroid for hypothyroidism. Once the label “DEPRESSION” was slapped on my had no one ever bothered to question it or reevaluated. How can any one see what someone’s really like when they’re drugged into a stupor?
I share your pain i was put on drugs at 35 and i am greatfull that i lived 35 years with my mind is ok try Keto Diet with good balance maybe will heal you God bless our souls , we had such a hard life .
@@cassandrachestnut4839 I’m doing better, but the cold turkey withdrawal (except for a one month taper for the Effexor) the doctor recommended for the huge drug cocktail caused an autoimmune condition, so now I’m on meds for that. I had years on insomnia during the protracted withdrawal and weirdly enough, no or little sleep felt way less exhausting than in that drug cocktail. Anyway, thanks for responding. It’s nice to feel heard. With the stigma associated with all this I never talk to anyone about this.
It's so obvious from stories like this that they have no idea what their drugs even do. None whatsoever. What an embarrassment the practice is to the entire human species. Our ancestors didn't struggle to survive so we could engage in this kind of sheer stupidity.
Psychiatry at each ignorant iteration has caused increased harm and this current paradigm is the most harmful by far with its global DSM mindset and drugs that fall from this. Utterly abusive yet highly profitable.
Except for the millions of times that it’s actually saved people’s lives. That never gets discussed in places like this. This woman is clearly very damaged and mentally ill. Why anyone would listen to her and believe she’s being honest is beyond me. She’s clearly not all there mentally.
@@NormaJean951 what helps and harms is always a complex mix of things - for some people drinking alcohol or using illegal substances might help in the short term. However this would not be recommended long term for obvious reasons and its the same with psychiatric drugs, short term might, numb, suppress, sedate, calm, energise, focus etc but the longer term impacts on brain and body are harm casing in myriad ways. The labels psychiatry uses are not based in reality but are constructs, voted into existence. If all of this was helping then great but the opposite is true the more of this destructive paradigm we get the more harm we see.
THANK YOU for saying it so well. BIG PHARMA REALLY PROFITS BIG TIME AND IT PROVIDES JOBS FOR PROFESSIONALS TO HAVE A PROFITABLE LIFE STYLE AT THE EXPENSE OF THE POOR SICK AND VULERABLE. We can be very THANKFUL for those who go against the popular current of strong opinions and risk their life's and careers to speak up for those who are under the wing of the false system.
@@NormaJean951I would rather hear her story and many story's like hers than believe that your opinion of her is valid. You did not grow up in her situation.Too many Chemical pills can make anyone Toxic and crazy. When I say crazy I say it compassionately. So thankful she had the opportunity yo say what the medical system did to her at a very young age.
I am proud of you for speaking up for yourself, your beautiful person, you should continue to advocate for this, you are a good speaker at telling your story, your amazing! I really hope you become a Doctor.
Makes me wonder why doctors, who obviously don't really know anything about anything, are given so much power over people. They seem to be as clued out as the lay person in regards to to mechanisms and dangerous side effects of these drugs.
The occupation should be cancelled because they are abusing their position of trust. The job was created as a means for the drug manufacturers to have minions to distribute their poisons to people. The more drugs that get into people for years on end benefits both parties financially. It is one sick type of relationship.
Most side effects are detailed, as package inserts, by law, in drug containers. Pharmacology is a scientifically sound discipline. Some MDs etc do not read inserts. It is also the responsibility of the “patient” to read up on side effects. Patient’s need to assume responsibility for their health, with expert input from medical professionals.
@@bernardofitzpatrick5403"scientifically sound discipline" full of cherry-picked results, where all the studies are funded by the profiteers, who make up multiple of the world record holders for fraud.
@@bernardofitzpatrick5403sure, try and convince their victims that it's scientifically sound, and not a snake oil racket. Really doesn't make you look like an enabler at all.
The going off meds: fortunately for me I had many refills of my antidepressants and my antipsychotic drugs and I just reduced the dose very gradually. When I had withdrawal symptoms I would increase it again a little bit and then decrease it again and eventually I got off the medication. I do not recommend anyone do this personally. This is between you and your doctor! Like Cassie I was very disillusioned and very upset at the thought of being on these drugs for the rest of my life.
Dr Witt Doerring handled this interview with great compassion and care. It is always nice when doctors validate the experiences if incest survivors and his Psychiatry treats us incest survivors.
Parents, do not take your children to a psychiatrist to use drugs to control their behavior! There is behavioral stuff going on here, but you do not have bipolar disorder because you were not manic. So, you were misdiagnosed. This is malpractice whoever is writing every different drug category and random guesswork not hitting the right targets with different drug categories with no accurate diagnosis. You were just grieving loved one deaths and having family problems. Her psychiatrist made her case unnecessarily complicated. There was gaslighting here thinking she needed more when she was already on a lot.
I was on heavy meds as a young child. I was 6 when they first put me on psyche meds instead of actually trying to figure out why I was acting out. I weaned myself off as an adult but I have lasting dystonia as a consequence for being used as a Guinea pig as a child. Edit: I was on nearly all the meds this young lady was on. There was a few I wasn’t.
It made me worse too. I have to be under psychiatric care to keep my benefits but I am med free. I just go to be monitored and I attend an IOP to learn social skills that I never learned either
I recommend anybody dealing with protracted cognitive decline, look up ways to increase BDNF and protect your heart from poisons, do not consume poisons in the media, in your food, in your relations, protect your heart like you protect the pupil of your eye. You can change your brain. Antipsychotics are ridiculous, seroquel and the like cause a chemical lobotomy. I grew up with a friends and family who had schizophrenia and the medicines were often worse than the disease.
I completely understand but that's probably making you feel worse. I have C-PTSD and after being isolated, I developed agoraphobia. I got better with support from friends only to develop agoraphobia again after being rapidly deprescribed off Alprazolam. This time it was a withdrawal symptom and I improved over time.
we need to stop medicating disorders and teaching people how to use them as an advantage but no one wants to take the time to teach people to live with the disorder and learn how to function with it.
It has to do with taking the time to teach vs medicating and walking away. (Big Pharm is a major problem) We need to start realizing these differences in mental functions are an evolutionary advantage. If everyone was an outgoing confident aggressive we would probably be killed off by wild animals before now. It was the ones with anxiety or depression for example that let us develop different types of people. I know for a fact ADD, and Autism,anxiety, dyslexia, depression, etc. can be a super power in life if you learn how to use them to advantage.
@@NormaJean951 It isn't as simple as that. There has to be a lot of environmental interventions, and finding safer medications to use in the short term. If we keep justifying continuing to do the same thing we have been doing we won't ever evolve to where we can create safe solutions. We need safe medicine to be used in acute situations.
I believe you can blame the medication for emotional and psychological delays in development.. but I think the meds create a mask which allows for a stagnation. As someone not on medication but severe isolation and neglect, I'm always trying to catch up in my social development. Also being raised within a system where medication alcohol and drugs were the only coping mechanism for the adults around me.. the only answer to their own experiences of abuse and trauma. I felt even more like a black sheep because of this kind of family system. It's scary to hear how hijacked her parents were. She's so young so and so self aware of her deficits so I can believe she will be ok.. ❤ it just takes time.,
In response to another comment about psychiatry hurting more than it helps. The amount it helps is essentially zero, so any non-zero value (no negative numbers allowed) for harm inherently makes it so. This is what people don't get. It's not capable of anything else. And what props up this delusion? Simple, the concept of risk vs benefit. Biggest trick ever played, I'm convinced the human brain can't handle exposure to this concept, it's a "cogito hazard". For me, everything is risk:risk. Starting with risk of doing something vs risk of doing nothing. Hemming and hawing over risk vs benefit never even enters the equation, it's apples and oranges. Yet people are brainwashed from birth that "fair and balanced", considering "risks and benefits" is some sign of maturity and intelligence. Some of the dumbest outputs I've ever seen produced in my entire life, could only come about through the risk:benefit medium. It's just a game. Once you get it on that terrain there's more maneuverability. You can reframe, selectively redefine concepts, hide things, draw in emotional hooks. No pain no gain? Sure, I can take a hit, for a greater payoff! Such an infantile maze for so-called adults to still be stumbling around in. Maze to nowhere. The mere existence of the maze is an excuse, a refusal to let go and grow up.
The poisons have no benefits, well to patients at least. It only benefits manufacturers and doctors. The risk:benefit analysis is futile because there is none. These drugs got approved and released into society regardless. What fraud. How criminal. Nobody is protecting the patient.
I say this with 0 malice, your word salad diatribe makes me concerned that you are struggling with mental illness. The things you say are jumbled and incorrect and you don’t seem cognizant of that. Please talk to someone so you can get the help you need.
@@NormaJean951 Also, just to state the obvious. There is a superficial (and I assume also actual) contradiction between: "I say this with 0 malice" Followed immediately by "your word salad diatribe" So, you blame others and are also dishonest with yourself. Unlike you I genuinely am trying to help, despite a generally diminished sense of compassion in the more direct senses. So I act with compassion indirectly.
This is the nightmare scenario I have imagined (and have theorised) would happen with the popularity of psychopharmacology. I have in my lifetime witnessed my peers getting "therapy" of some sort after their parents deemed them "odd" or "weird" for example being caught putting on his mother's clothes.. and they put him on track towards a transgender lifestyle but thankfully for him at the time, they're was neither a push forward nor a discouragement.. and he was given time to figure it out. I think mostly his issues were body image, and being overweight, but because his mother was overweight, I don't believe anyone had the courage to address this. In my own life great amount of loss, disconnection and neglect could easily put me on a terrible road.. so I can understand how easily doctors might easily reach for meds first.
I'm not political at all, really. Since my iatrogenic med injury, other things take priority, like surviving. But, I wonder how much Robert Kennedy Jr. will change the FDA for the better. Any input, Dr. Josef, since you used to work for the FDA?
Somebody powerful needs to speak out against the unethical practices in psychiatry. I hope RFK doesn’t just focus on targeting drug marketing. The issue is bigger than that. Heck, Trump, Elon Musk need to know what is really going on. There is criminal activity happening in the practice of psychiatry. The society needs to reevaluate how it deals with mental health because people are being hurt, scammed and lied to. It is worse than the opioid crisis and needs to be made transparent as some sort of epidemic.
@kathryn7739 I agree. Something as well known, & awareness that is as wide spread and familair as the "me too" movement & everyone "getting woke" to the truth.
It seems like this kind of abuse is common among child psychiatrists. I am scared of having children because of what they did to me growing up. Psychiatrists will one day successfully treated us all for our supposed illness when humanity dies in an adult diaper whimpering on their death beds with no one to change it for them.
There was this one girl at my school who was super sexual from like 3rd grade on. I always thought that was really weird. She would do very sexual things when I didn't even understand what sex was. I feel bad for her now. She was the school **** by middle school. I hope she got help.
I remember when dock torz and akkadeeeemiya started trying to call "side effects" (already a dumb name) "non-specific effects" instead. Like this was revolutionary paradigm shift. Whoooooaaaaaa like DUDE we want it to go in n bind 2 dis enzyme sistum but dduuuhhhhh looks like it has affinitee 2 udder receptorrrzz 2!!!!! n downstream efektz!!! So if we tell duh publik dat deez r NOOTTTT, I repeat they are NOT "side effects", but rather "non specific effects" den it will all be okayz n no one is at fault :D :D :D *drools all over self
What’s with this new “unalived” word being used instead of “dead” “death” or “killed”??? Are we really that soft that this is actually happening? Outrageous.
42:30 No, for what it's worth you very likely wouldn't have received anything resembling help no matter what was in your file. I had the sane thing, cervical scoliosis, cranial nerve compression, jaw shifted back, torsion + compression of parts of the brainstem and therefore bloodflow to the anterior cerebellum and so on. No help. Two MRIs, second moron "neurologist" offers me nortriptyline for the pain. At Dartmouth! Prestigious Dartmouth! Thanks for nothin' buddy. Empty vessel, cattle-brained garbage.
It's not "one example". And "evidence based" is just a quasi-religious brainwashing term aimed at people who think in language. It's called evidence based, it must be true! Actually the "just one example" part of your comment implies bad faith.
Oh really? How could you tell? Maybe it's the fact that she's dealing with withdrawal from years of psych meds, just like she said! How dense can you be?
This too, is my story..
Childhood polydrug survivor here. I finally came off my benzos of 25+ years in 2019, but was on a cocktail of meds prescribed by child psychiatrists at the tender age of thirteen, and those medications along with misdiagnoses destroyed my developmental years. It all left me uneducated, socially, emotionally, and academically delayed for years to come.
The side effects were horrendous and sadly nobody knew better and nobody listened.
I have to believe most of those involved had set out to help me in the state I was in, but unintentionally caused more harm than they would ever be able to conceive through the mistakes that transpired.
She is telling almost the exact same story as what happened to me... **tears streaming**
Kassie you're are my absolute HERO!
Thank you, thank you, from the bottom of my heart for sharing your story! You will never know how profoundly your story has resonated with me and touched my heart!
I wish I could tell you how valuable and impactful watching this interview is and has been.
Much gratitude and healing wishes to you, as you continue to heal moving forward one day at a time..
As I continue my healing journey back to myself after psych medication injury and trauma. I will think of you and other survivors strength and determination and ultimately our resilience and will to survive and endure the unimaginable.
Much admiration, respect, and appreciation for your life story...
You deserve so much hope, joy, and happiness in the future!
I feel your circumstances have shaped you into becoming what you now will be able to be to others in similar circumstances: an advocate and a voice for patients who are silenced and disbelieved after misdiagnoses and poly-drugging, especially for children who are so vulnerable.
Again, please, please know. This story has had a tremendous impact on me and knowing it has happened to others, especiallythose who were also children when it all began...
Just as the doctor mentions, Laura Delano's story comes to mind as during this time of healing I have taken to researching stories with similarities to my own. A process in which has aided my own healing..
thx for sharing this
Thank you too for sharing your experiences. After 5 years (since 2019) I hope you have been able to find the joy in life that was taken because of these drugs. Prayers for you that the time ahead will be filled with the peace that you deserve.🙏
At an early age, you were considered troublesome, and thus got handed over to credentialed authorities - who Labeled you and began drugging you with neurotoxic drugs. Why weren't you and many others assigned to aesthetic Talent Training Classes, which Howard Glasser details in his 1st book Igniting Greatness?!
I am a therapist and have been in the field for forty years . I watched - in horror - as the field of psychotherapy was medicalized .
I used to be able to explain to people what could be causing their symptoms, and the many alternative ways issues can be addressed, and people used to be relieved . Now the medicalization of all things is so acculturated- it’s a massive industry- that people now are suspicious of me when I explain the DSM, insurance industry, and why things are now the way they are . Its tragic.
So many “professionals” play fast and loose with diagnosis, and often say , “it runs in the family” without a lick of genetic testing having been done .
I see this type of training wreck often , and it’s harder to address these days . I get met with , “You aren’t a doctor”, which is a good thing in 2024.
Far more common than biological psychiatric issues is complex trauma.
thx for sharing your perspective on this
Since SSRIs, mood stabilizers, benzos, and then, more appropriately stimulant meds (which I’ve since stopped taking), I have trouble expressing myself verbally, though I can write just fine.
It’s a thing.
Your not alone, much love
Me too. My memory sucks now. It's difficult to talk off the top of my head but I can write a response and edit it, still takes me awhile though. I used to take pride in my speech and eye contact but I can't anymore.
_Keep writing._ And reading. ❤❤❤
@@l.w.paradis2108 'Psychiatry is sincerity, fraud, force and financialization!' - Thomas Szasz
Me too 😢
I’ve read in a book, Body Keeps the Score, in which it shows several times that psych drugs don’t show any noticeable help to children that have been sexually abused and in many cases the drugs make things worse.
What a coincidence. They make it worse. Hm. Isn't that strange. Huh. Makes you think.
Excellent book!
Is the book written by actual mental health professionals?
@ yes. The author is Bessel van der Kolk. The author saw the limitations of psych drugs. The huge thing that bothered me while I read the book was that the author never took the drugs himself to see the danger that he and other historical top shot mental professionals were dealing with. A huge flaw of mental health history is that the drugs actually cause massive problems and heavy withdrawals when taken away and switched around.
@@NormaJean951 there are all kinds of books out there about psychotropic med injury written by mental health professionals. There are books written by, and entire websites with board members, whom are doctors and healthcare professionals dedicated to helping those injured by psych drugs written and created by Psychiatrists, psychologists, MDs, social workers, PhDs. Nurse practitioners. Dr. Mark Horowitz, Dr. Peter Breggin, and Dr. Josef here, just to name a few. It's a growing force of trail blazers and whistle blowers trying to make positive change in this growing epidemic of pscyh med harm. It's bigger than the opioid crises.
OMG. So unfair for her. I hope you make a full recovery. And thank you for sharing this story on TH-cam and spreading awareness.
I am 34. On meds since I was 14. Just because no one helped me. Endet it last year. The SSRI, the antpsychotics, the mood stabilizers. I did it all on my own. I was on let's say 20 different meds over the years. But I am struggling with the benzos so much, I am so damaged. I tapered a lot, but too fast so I am still on 30 mg. Every day is pure terror.
sending you love and healing. i'm so sorry you are dealing with this. i hope you get tgrough it soon.
*Give it time.* Trust that to do it safely takes a LONG time.
You’re literally an addict. Just like the ones you see on the street. You need to check yourself into a rehab facility. You cannot just wean yourself off benzos. Are you buying pills off the street?
@@salomerummel6920 please heal. I feel like your story is all too common. I’m so sorry. I’m 36 and was started twenty years ago on a psych drug.
Indeed. Every day is hell.
Great interview. I listened to it twice. I hope psychiatrists in training are listening. Thanks for highlighting the intensely negative effects of medication mismanagement in children. And thanks for interviewing someone with antipsychotic experience
Words of encouragement: you can find purpose through your pain, don't give up, stay alive. Find support. You are worth saving.
Also @29:31 I meant to say base high-school. Still working on nerves and public speaking.
Dr Josef, I really like the skit you put out in where the psychiatrist looks at the paperwork and it has arrows that go from checklist, then to diagnosis, then to medication. We all know where the funnel leads. Thanks for doing what you do. I myself have never been on these drugs, but have been denied a physiological diagnoses and medical testing for breathing and heart issues due to doctors and nurses believing they were somehow psychiatrists, even having a nurse write 'autism' on my papers then discharging me when I had severe breathing issues, and having specialists, doctors, nurses, everyone write 'anxiety' on my paperwork over and over, to the point where I had a pulminologist referring me to a psychiatrist even when there was clear evidence of physiological breathing issues on a pulmonary function test. I was even convinced the psychiatric industry is evil, but I realize that it's really just the med industry that has it's tentacles around the whole system. If psychiatry could get rid of the drugs, then all these false diagnoses would go away too, you wouldn't even have ADHD, ADD, etc... There are studies on literally every physiological disease in where they wrote in the buzz word 'anxiety', into heart, lung, brain, all these disorders. It makes me think, what if you have pre-parkinsons or pre-als these days? Can you even get a neurologist to do the testing on real physiological issues?
Then, I learn from you the people that have to go through withdrawal symptoms for years. Being a cripple for the last year myself due to having the issues I have, I feel a bond with these people, and want to help people taper off of all of these meds, and honestly would love to see the psychiatric industry abolished completely at this point in favor of therapy that actually cares about people, as well as proper diet, and community support systems.
You really need to educate yourself better. ADHD is real. Medications help people all the time. You have never even tried any medications despite many people telling you that you have severe mental health issues. You are a classic case of a patient that refuses to accept their limitations. You are absolutely too ignorant and weak minded to accept that you have no idea what you’re saying. You go and harass all these specialists, insisting you have issues that are all in your head. Everyone thinks you’re crazy and instead of accepting it, you move on to the next doctor. This level of aggressive ignorance is truly the hardest part of working in mental health. People like you need the most help but are so mentally ill that you refuse to accept it.
@@NormaJean951 This reply is truly vile, but telling. It seems my assessment of you in other threads was correct. It's a vibe, you're a type. Don't feel too bad. The rest of us will do the work and fix things while you work through your whole "you" thing you've got going on.
@@Acetyl53 Think it probably got deleted, whatever they said in response, I stand by exactly what I said, the point being we need to do away with all of these medications and either reform or even get rid of the psychiatric industry (if it won't change).
@@astrahcat1212 I agree. It ALL needs to go away - drugs and practitioners. It’s an outright scam.
@@astrahcat1212 I to say, “just get rid of that crummy industry!”
I wish I could get my story out.
Me too
Write it for yourself first. You can use google docs with voice typing. Just talk, and it will write it. You can also use AI tools to clean it up, or ask it for suggestions, etc.
Would you be willing to record it and post it?
@@Tomsaulkwriting is hard. Writing with no emotional support is near impossible. Especially with side effects. My restless legs, tinnitus, and brain fog alone make daily life a hellscape, but the answer is always simple, sounds easy, risk free and it is anything but any of those.
Do what @Tomsaulk said. Use ai voice/anonymous.
Horrendous, evil system, drugging all who need help, we live in such a corrupt, perverse world.. I always felt there is something wrong with all this assessing children's behavioural problems...a trap.
Maim and drain, name of the game. The smarter the kid, the more they work to take out their future competition early.
If boys are distracted and girls are sad - have them sing in a chorus after school every day. Aesthetic talent training is the key - Howard Glasser takes this up in his 1st book, Igniting Greatness!
This is a very brave girl and good questions from Dr. Josef- I'm not finished it yet but it's very interesting. I hope she realizes she can do anything if she got through this! I'm sorry you were put on these medications. You are very articulate and you tell your story with alot of honesty.
Thanks for sharing your story. I began hearing about the difficulty of coming off the medicines when my daughter went to college around 2007. Her friend tried to come off a large dose of Prozac, cold turkey I believe, and I think she gave up on getting off them. Even on the meds, she couldn't enjoy a typical college schedule. The exhaustion really robbed her of opportunities. I am all for them if they truly better a person's life. Such a shame because she was such a brilliant beautiful girl. I am sure she has had many successes in life but I remember her needing a well deserved private dorm room so she could take long naps in solitude.
Thank You 🙏 Lord, and please, please continue to keep a hedge of protection around this young lady, and I pray that the truth about these drugs will outweigh the insane Frankensteinish inhumanity of drugging children!! My ❤is achingly saddened because there are so, so many of us out there who have been damaged by this.
Took me three tries to listen to the end. Too hard. She is lovely.
Thank you for this story. Keep them coming. I wish her the best in her life as she continues to heal.
Psychiatry causes FAR more problems than it helps.
It causes diferent problems.... it's side effects. These drugs help people.
And we just wanted to
It definitely can sometimes
@@BigDaddyBostinthey certainly do help people. They help scientists, doctors, pharmacy company owners, investors, and employees, they help media and advertizing companies, they help teachers and parents that have difficulties with getting their kids to sit still, be quiet, and be invisible.
These drugs certainly help loads of people, just least of all the people being made to take them
There's spectrums to everything, psychiatry can be detrimental just as it can be helpful it's really up the individual rather they can even get anything out of it but it's up to you and the therapist sorry if you had an adverse experience while some can be disgruntled the vast majority just want to help and are doing the best to help so I'm inclined to believe there's some misconception present here or generalization regardless. It's same with pharmaceuticals what really matters is your mind set approach access to information preparation for experience and expectations with the long term properly conceptualized they can really help but without all that addiction can be easy to slip into so it comes down to being taught how to think in the first place that seems to be lacking. Much love just working to help
Thanks for sharing!
I wish the doctor would ask if the adults or people living in the household were smokers, there's a mention of a close relative dying from lung cancer. It is important to establish how insidious tobacco products are around children, and how the physiology of mothers and fathers is affected prior to having children and after the birth of a child, and how this can effect a developing young brain.
In my personal experience, both the tobacco industry AND big pharma (and also the food industry) are three heads of the same diabolical beast, that eventually lead people into these difficult situations.
My god, some of these people who run and operate these business institutions are responsible in a twisted and warped way for worse destruction on planet earth than the Nazis were.
Tobacco is literally nothing compared to the others. It's of the same "type", but it doesn't even compare. It's the scapegoat they put out there to make it look like regulation does anything.
It's all the same mentality. Selfishness, superiority, apathy, and greed.
Unfortunately, I also have a similar story in adition to alot of heinous abuse that happened in those hospitals. What they do to children to make money is worse than how they treat criminals in jail. Your a prisoner and forcibly drugged to zombification which is how you lose your autonomy which is the human rights violation that should be punished. The Constitution of the United States clearly states that every citizen including children has the right to the pursuit of life, not mention liberty (freedom) and the pursuit of happiness. There should be no legal right to zombifiy a child for all their developmental years no matter how much money they could make from it. It is not morally right or legally right yet happening.
Public school for many kids, especially in the city, is like child prison, and then if they speak up to teachers they have found a way to write all sorts of things on their papers, send them to even more awful schools, call them a delinquent with ADD, ADHD, 'autism' and then give them all sorts of meds very early and physically damage their brains, then that kid just ends up an actual delinquent for the rest of his life. Perfectly innocent children horrifically go in sane, and come out criminals by the time they grow up. I worked as a school bus driver and bus monitor at one point, and drove the so called delinquent little kids to school and they were pretty much on a fast track to gangs, crime, drugs for the rest of their lives.
Agreed it should be consensual so the kids whom find reality that disagreeable don't have to suffer losing being able to be zombiefied
In cases where escape is the only option that is
@@Mothyonethose anticholinergics should all be illegal. Nothing but chemical l0b0t0mies. And kids don't know what's what. Their abusive parents are going to side with l0b0t0mization, and the kids won't know the difference.
Thanks for sharing your story. I'm 11 years out from going cold turkey off the cocktail of psych meds I was started on after masses of childhood sexual trauma and then another awful month with yet another family member that was just my breaking point after everything else. What I think about my drug journey now is why didn't anyone care or help me deal with all the trauma? That piece even though it's what I knew and kept saying was the cause was totally ignored and I was diagnosed with pretty much everything but full schizophrenia over the more than 13years in the system. In my protracted withdrawal years the thing that kept me fighting for survival was knowing that it was the abuse and drug injuries ( I just knew I was brain damaged from it all) not actually ME that was the problem. I don't know how I got to that point of knowing that it wasn't me after all the years of being told it was me...but it was the hope that I could become more ME in time that kept me fighting through so many awful days. Even now l, hearing about some of the symptoms you experienced I'm able to think....oh so that was another symptom from the drugs... I think I'm always going to have some brain damage and my physical body is wrecked from it all and there's nothing I can do to get back all that or really ever get back the arrested development I experienced from being drugged from teen years all through young adulthood. My life was living alone in isolation or being on psych wards and day programs...so I missed everything normal through those years.
But the ability to think well enough now to make a plan of action and eventually carry it out and follow through is something I truly value having back again.
I just wish doctors etc would believe me when I say that everything that happened to me in the psych world was what disabled me. If things had been handled differently and I'd been actually listened to and been able to get help to get safe from my family of origin when I first touched into the system my life could have been so much better. My brain is slowly healing but it has been so hurt and all the abuse means I have an awful lot of heart healing to go still. But at least off meds I was able to figure out how to finally get safe and I'm slowly building a good life for myself. I won't let them ruin my life.
Yep, similar story here too.
Unfortunately, not everyone has a caring doctor and supportive family. 😢
Most of us don't.
@@l.w.paradis2108 Supportive families often rubber stamp what Mental Health is effectively doing to their relative!
I question if any exist, given how many people in this country support concentration camps for "illegal" immigrants, the exhaustive abuse of med school, the prevalence of lead, and the narcissists' ability to pretend to care.
Polydrugging should prob be classified as attempted mrdr
YOU CAN SAY THAT AGAIN IN CAPITAL LETTERS
Refusing a slow taper also !
There are millions of people that have been helped by medications. It’s crazy when you make claims like this, without even being able to understand how vital medication is for people who are truly struggling with mental illness.
Kids*
When I was 15 I was put on 5 different psychiatric medications. I went to the DR because I thought meds were the only my thing that could help me. Nothing helped me because I was still learning ways of coping with stress. So when I came in the DR only upped my dosage or put me on another medication. I was on Xanax, Busparone, Abilify, Lexapro, and Seroquel. I took myself off because I was even more mentally unstable than when I started. It’s been years and I feel
better than before even with way more stress in my life. These medications do nothing to help you deal with the challenges of life. My psych dr only wanted more money in his pocket.
I wish I could hug Kassie. I went through something very similar, lost my precious college years. I hope she is doing good now. (havent finished the vid)
Sometimes I feel that i died when I tried to suicide, and I am in hell rn.
Same. 🙂↕️
Your kind wishes are well received. You have my utmost compassion. You are not alone and I hope you find support and healing.
I'm glad you are doing better
They gave me anti-psychotics for anxiety caused by several decades of severe abuse. Right after I escaped from a hospital where both staff and patients were regularly abusing me (and each other), they decided that I needed anti-psychotics lol.
My sympathies for the suffering you've experienced. No one should have to live through this.
They profit off of everyone's pain, never give up tapering off even if it takes a long time.
Much love yall 💛
@@astrahcat1212 No worries, I refused to take that garbage anymore after the first month. I've already been off it for a while. The cure was worse than the disease it was supposedly treating.
The absurdist nature is almost comical, but fact is these people are extremely dangerous and their mentality has to be dealt with. It's a severe..... disease.
A gfs mom's friend was a psychiatrist. Her 10y son was on psych meds and was apparently unable to talk.
Perplexed that all these “specialists” have a medical licence
Yeah my neighbors cousins brother’s friend is an alien. His 10yr old couldn’t talk either 😂😂
@NormaJean951 Okay, this was a girlfriend. This girlfriend had a mother. "Girlfriend's mom" is someone guys know. Well, if her (mom's) close friend was over a lot and had a child with issues, this guy might well know. He might have seen the kid a lot. A kid that won't talk is pretty distinctive.
Didn't you all hang? Or is it Screen Life now?
@@drannamd At least, those in Mental Health should be issued new guidelines, and be paroled to Citizenship Training School!
That’s exactly what happened to me too. I started antidepressants at 14 in 1983 for mild to moderate social anxiety, then the sedation and sleepiness from them was misdiagnosed as depression which caused more sleepiness which was misdiagnosed as worsening depression so more and more drugs were added until I slept all day and had to do in SSI. My weight ballooned, I was put on Metformin for diabetes and Synthroid for hypothyroidism.
Once the label “DEPRESSION” was slapped on my had no one ever bothered to question it or reevaluated. How can any one see what someone’s really like when they’re drugged into a stupor?
omgosh...how awful. i hope you are doing better now.
I share your pain i was put on drugs at 35 and i am greatfull that i lived 35 years with my mind is ok try Keto Diet with good balance maybe will heal you God bless our souls , we had such a hard life .
@@cassandrachestnut4839 I’m doing better, but the cold turkey withdrawal (except for a one month taper for the Effexor) the doctor recommended for the huge drug cocktail caused an autoimmune condition, so now I’m on meds for that. I had years on insomnia during the protracted withdrawal and weirdly enough, no or little sleep felt way less exhausting than in that drug cocktail. Anyway, thanks for responding. It’s nice to feel heard. With the stigma associated with all this I never talk to anyone about this.
@@melihapaydn2137 I’m sorry you had to go through that too. I’ve heard great things about keto, I’m definitely going to try that.
It's so obvious from stories like this that they have no idea what their drugs even do. None whatsoever. What an embarrassment the practice is to the entire human species. Our ancestors didn't struggle to survive so we could engage in this kind of sheer stupidity.
I have seen this many times
"Neurotoxic drugs would not work, if they were not neurotoxic!" - Peter Breggin
Psychiatry at each ignorant iteration has caused increased harm and this current paradigm is the most harmful by far with its global DSM mindset and drugs that fall from this. Utterly abusive yet highly profitable.
Except for the millions of times that it’s actually saved people’s lives. That never gets discussed in places like this. This woman is clearly very damaged and mentally ill. Why anyone would listen to her and believe she’s being honest is beyond me. She’s clearly not all there mentally.
@@NormaJean951 what helps and harms is always a complex mix of things - for some people drinking alcohol or using illegal substances might help in the short term. However this would not be recommended long term for obvious reasons and its the same with psychiatric drugs, short term might, numb, suppress, sedate, calm, energise, focus etc but the longer term impacts on brain and body are harm casing in myriad ways. The labels psychiatry uses are not based in reality but are constructs, voted into existence. If all of this was helping then great but the opposite is true the more of this destructive paradigm we get the more harm we see.
THANK YOU for saying it so well. BIG PHARMA REALLY PROFITS BIG TIME AND IT PROVIDES JOBS FOR PROFESSIONALS TO HAVE A PROFITABLE LIFE STYLE AT THE EXPENSE OF THE POOR SICK AND VULERABLE.
We can be very THANKFUL for those who go against the popular current of strong opinions and risk their life's and careers to speak up for those who are under the wing of the false system.
@@NormaJean951I would rather hear her story and many story's like hers than believe that your opinion of her is valid. You did not grow up in her situation.Too many Chemical pills can make anyone Toxic and crazy. When I say crazy I say it compassionately. So thankful she had the opportunity yo say what the medical system did to her at a very young age.
You are so very strong. I have to say shame on anyone that puts their ten year old child on those kind of drugs!!! God bless you ♥️
I am proud of you for speaking up for yourself, your beautiful person, you should continue to advocate for this, you are a good speaker at telling your story, your amazing! I really hope you become a Doctor.
I got off Anti psychotics for about a year now: it’s definitely been a venture.
Congrats 👏
Much love!
@@Mothyone thank you
I, too, had the throat seize, upon going to sleep, on Seroquel. Swallowing problems too.
Makes me wonder why doctors, who obviously don't really know anything about anything, are given so much power over people. They seem to be as clued out as the lay person in regards to to mechanisms and dangerous side effects of these drugs.
The occupation should be cancelled because they are abusing their position of trust. The job was created as a means for the drug manufacturers to have minions to distribute their poisons to people. The more drugs that get into people for years on end benefits both parties financially. It is one sick type of relationship.
100%
Most side effects are detailed, as package inserts, by law, in drug containers. Pharmacology is a scientifically sound discipline. Some MDs etc do not read inserts. It is also the responsibility of the “patient” to read up on side effects. Patient’s need to assume responsibility for their health, with expert input from medical professionals.
@@bernardofitzpatrick5403"scientifically sound discipline" full of cherry-picked results, where all the studies are funded by the profiteers, who make up multiple of the world record holders for fraud.
@@bernardofitzpatrick5403sure, try and convince their victims that it's scientifically sound, and not a snake oil racket. Really doesn't make you look like an enabler at all.
Greetings and Love from Moscow Kassie
The going off meds: fortunately for me I had many refills of my antidepressants and my antipsychotic drugs and I just reduced the dose very gradually. When I had withdrawal symptoms I would increase it again a little bit and then decrease it again and eventually I got off the medication. I do not recommend anyone do this personally. This is between you and your doctor! Like Cassie I was very disillusioned and very upset at the thought of being on these drugs for the rest of my life.
Dr Witt Doerring handled this interview with great compassion and care. It is always nice when doctors validate the experiences if incest survivors and his Psychiatry treats us incest survivors.
Parents, do not take your children to a psychiatrist to use drugs to control their behavior! There is behavioral stuff going on here, but you do not have bipolar disorder because you were not manic. So, you were misdiagnosed. This is malpractice whoever is writing every different drug category and random guesswork not hitting the right targets with different drug categories with no accurate diagnosis. You were just grieving loved one deaths and having family problems. Her psychiatrist made her case unnecessarily complicated. There was gaslighting here thinking she needed more when she was already on a lot.
There is more sad stories, there is always story behind, people need to fix their problems, fill their needs not take poison
I’m so surprised that she was able to get some of her medical records.
I was on heavy meds as a young child. I was 6 when they first put me on psyche meds instead of actually trying to figure out why I was acting out.
I weaned myself off as an adult but I have lasting dystonia as a consequence for being used as a Guinea pig as a child.
Edit: I was on nearly all the meds this young lady was on. There was a few I wasn’t.
I was prescribed opiates and stimulants before I turned 18
also prescribed soma, xanax, & gabapentin. i really never took any of them
It made me worse too. I have to be under psychiatric care to keep my benefits but I am med free. I just go to be monitored and I attend an IOP to learn social skills that I never learned either
I recommend anybody dealing with protracted cognitive decline, look up ways to increase BDNF and protect your heart from poisons, do not consume poisons in the media, in your food, in your relations, protect your heart like you protect the pupil of your eye. You can change your brain. Antipsychotics are ridiculous, seroquel and the like cause a chemical lobotomy. I grew up with a friends and family who had schizophrenia and the medicines were often worse than the disease.
I have ptsd depression anxiety disorder I keep my self locked up in my room
I completely understand but that's probably making you feel worse. I have C-PTSD and after being isolated, I developed agoraphobia. I got better with support from friends only to develop agoraphobia again after being rapidly deprescribed off Alprazolam. This time it was a withdrawal symptom and I improved over time.
we need to stop medicating disorders and teaching people how to use them as an advantage but no one wants to take the time to teach people to live with the disorder and learn how to function with it.
Exactly. Because how will the pharmaceutical industry benefit if people can manage their issues themselves?
Yes, anyone who can be stabilized and can improve without drugs should do it without drugs. 💯
It has to do with taking the time to teach vs medicating and walking away. (Big Pharm is a major problem) We need to start realizing these differences in mental functions are an evolutionary advantage. If everyone was an outgoing confident aggressive we would probably be killed off by wild animals before now. It was the ones with anxiety or depression for example that let us develop different types of people. I know for a fact ADD, and Autism,anxiety, dyslexia, depression, etc. can be a super power in life if you learn how to use them to advantage.
Yes, because paranoid schizophrenia can be treated with talk therapy. Genius plan.
@@NormaJean951 It isn't as simple as that. There has to be a lot of environmental interventions, and finding safer medications to use in the short term. If we keep justifying continuing to do the same thing we have been doing we won't ever evolve to where we can create safe solutions. We need safe medicine to be used in acute situations.
I believe you can blame the medication for emotional and psychological delays in development.. but I think the meds create a mask which allows for a stagnation. As someone not on medication but severe isolation and neglect, I'm always trying to catch up in my social development. Also being raised within a system where medication alcohol and drugs were the only coping mechanism for the adults around me.. the only answer to their own experiences of abuse and trauma. I felt even more like a black sheep because of this kind of family system.
It's scary to hear how hijacked her parents were.
She's so young so and so self aware of her deficits so I can believe she will be ok.. ❤ it just takes time.,
In response to another comment about psychiatry hurting more than it helps. The amount it helps is essentially zero, so any non-zero value (no negative numbers allowed) for harm inherently makes it so. This is what people don't get. It's not capable of anything else. And what props up this delusion? Simple, the concept of risk vs benefit. Biggest trick ever played, I'm convinced the human brain can't handle exposure to this concept, it's a "cogito hazard". For me, everything is risk:risk. Starting with risk of doing something vs risk of doing nothing. Hemming and hawing over risk vs benefit never even enters the equation, it's apples and oranges. Yet people are brainwashed from birth that "fair and balanced", considering "risks and benefits" is some sign of maturity and intelligence. Some of the dumbest outputs I've ever seen produced in my entire life, could only come about through the risk:benefit medium. It's just a game. Once you get it on that terrain there's more maneuverability. You can reframe, selectively redefine concepts, hide things, draw in emotional hooks. No pain no gain? Sure, I can take a hit, for a greater payoff! Such an infantile maze for so-called adults to still be stumbling around in. Maze to nowhere. The mere existence of the maze is an excuse, a refusal to let go and grow up.
The poisons have no benefits, well to patients at least. It only benefits manufacturers and doctors. The risk:benefit analysis is futile because there is none. These drugs got approved and released into society regardless. What fraud. How criminal. Nobody is protecting the patient.
@@kathryn7739 It's predator and prey. The game is getting people to offer up their child to the flames, I mean, medical system.
I say this with 0 malice, your word salad diatribe makes me concerned that you are struggling with mental illness. The things you say are jumbled and incorrect and you don’t seem cognizant of that. Please talk to someone so you can get the help you need.
@@NormaJean951 You blame others for your own shortcomings.
@@NormaJean951 Also, just to state the obvious. There is a superficial (and I assume also actual) contradiction between:
"I say this with 0 malice"
Followed immediately by
"your word salad diatribe"
So, you blame others and are also dishonest with yourself.
Unlike you I genuinely am trying to help, despite a generally diminished sense of compassion in the more direct senses. So I act with compassion indirectly.
Have I got a testimonial for you.
So glad you aren’t using AirPods dr. Josef! Did you switch over because of the high emf/rf and cellular/dna damage the AirPods cause?
This is the nightmare scenario I have imagined (and have theorised) would happen with the popularity of psychopharmacology. I have in my lifetime witnessed my peers getting "therapy" of some sort after their parents deemed them "odd" or "weird" for example being caught putting on his mother's clothes.. and they put him on track towards a transgender lifestyle but thankfully for him at the time, they're was neither a push forward nor a discouragement.. and he was given time to figure it out. I think mostly his issues were body image, and being overweight, but because his mother was overweight, I don't believe anyone had the courage to address this.
In my own life great amount of loss, disconnection and neglect could easily put me on a terrible road.. so I can understand how easily doctors might easily reach for meds first.
BIG "pHARM"
Great way of expressing Harmful professionals who HARM people because they are brainwashed by Big pHARMa.
I'm not political at all, really. Since my iatrogenic med injury, other things take priority, like surviving. But, I wonder how much Robert Kennedy Jr. will change the FDA for the better. Any input, Dr. Josef, since you used to work for the FDA?
Somebody powerful needs to speak out against the unethical practices in psychiatry. I hope RFK doesn’t just focus on targeting drug marketing. The issue is bigger than that. Heck, Trump, Elon Musk need to know what is really going on. There is criminal activity happening in the practice of psychiatry. The society needs to reevaluate how it deals with mental health because people are being hurt, scammed and lied to. It is worse than the opioid crisis and needs to be made transparent as some sort of epidemic.
I feel like there needs to be a campaign like in the 1980s championed by Nancy Reagan, “just say no”.
Unfortunately, RFK Jr. is no match against Big Pharma. Money.
I hope he gets Calley Means and Dr Casey Means involved. They are fearless and Calley used to work for FDA
@kathryn7739 I agree. Something as well known, & awareness that is as wide spread and familair as the "me too" movement & everyone "getting woke" to the truth.
It seems like this kind of abuse is common among child psychiatrists. I am scared of having children because of what they did to me growing up. Psychiatrists will one day successfully treated us all for our supposed illness when humanity dies in an adult diaper whimpering on their death beds with no one to change it for them.
Psychiatric abuse
100% polypharmacy and careless prescribing cascades leading to iatrogenic harm and disability
There was this one girl at my school who was super sexual from like 3rd grade on. I always thought that was really weird. She would do very sexual things when I didn't even understand what sex was. I feel bad for her now. She was the school **** by middle school. I hope she got help.
I remember when dock torz and akkadeeeemiya started trying to call "side effects" (already a dumb name) "non-specific effects" instead. Like this was revolutionary paradigm shift. Whoooooaaaaaa like DUDE we want it to go in n bind 2 dis enzyme sistum but dduuuhhhhh looks like it has affinitee 2 udder receptorrrzz 2!!!!! n downstream efektz!!! So if we tell duh publik dat deez r NOOTTTT, I repeat they are NOT "side effects", but rather "non specific effects" den it will all be okayz n no one is at fault :D :D :D *drools all over self
What’s with this new “unalived” word being used instead of “dead” “death” or “killed”??? Are we really that soft that this is actually happening? Outrageous.
@@janesouthon3991 Newspeak enforced by social media platforms hiding and deleting comments.
@@janesouthon3991 It's done for the same reason it deleted my prior response to you. Conditioning.
@@janesouthon3991 Or seeding and then enforcing newspeak, if it lets it through in a separate reply.
@@Acetyl53 both replies are showing
Me too
It kinda sounds like her family medically abused her w these disgusting drugs. I can relate.
Just started and already confused. Sounds like she was being treated for depression and they were trying different ones at different times 🤷
42:30 No, for what it's worth you very likely wouldn't have received anything resembling help no matter what was in your file. I had the sane thing, cervical scoliosis, cranial nerve compression, jaw shifted back, torsion + compression of parts of the brainstem and therefore bloodflow to the anterior cerebellum and so on. No help. Two MRIs, second moron "neurologist" offers me nortriptyline for the pain. At Dartmouth! Prestigious Dartmouth! Thanks for nothin' buddy. Empty vessel, cattle-brained garbage.
It's not their fault. All the stimulants required to pass med school turns them into apathetic, cattle-brained garbage.
This is insane logic. Evidence based medicine is how science works, just one example of bad medicine does NOT mean all of medicine is wrong.
Not “all of medicine” but the way medicine is prescribed by modern Pharma marketing educated and funded psychiatry … disgraceful
It's merely called evidence-based medicine. Doesn't mean it's actually based in science. Some things that look sciencey aren't actual science.
Look up the list of fraud lawsuits settled by Pfizer, Eli Lilly, etc, before you start blindly splaining that any of their 🍒 picking is science.
It's not "one example". And "evidence based" is just a quasi-religious brainwashing term aimed at people who think in language. It's called evidence based, it must be true!
Actually the "just one example" part of your comment implies bad faith.
@ psychiatry is an entirely Pharma marketing educated “specialty”…very little “evidence based” science
Something is off with her
Oh really? How could you tell? Maybe it's the fact that she's dealing with withdrawal from years of psych meds, just like she said! How dense can you be?
Yea ig years of abuse from family, you would have "something off"