Klonopin/Xanax took over my life from age 16 to 42, starting at .5 mg daily and climbing to 6 mg-all prescribed by doctors. Now, at 44, I’m still dealing with PAWS and realizing my anxiety wasn't actually worsening over those decades; it was withdrawals I didn’t recognize. No one ever warned me about the risks of long-term benzo use, and I feel like someone should be held accountable for the lack of transparency about the dangers. Perhaps I should tell my story sometime.
My story is very similar to yours as I was taking six milligrams of Clonzapam for 18 years. I've been on a SSRI, mood stabilizer and depression medication for 23 years total. Looking back I now see that my anxiety at the time was just situational because my daughter had passed away. But my doctor did not take that into consideration before prescribing a benzo, SSRI and mood stabilizer. Within 5 minutes, he diagnosed me with bipolar which was an absolutely wrong diagnosis. I am so mad that my life was taken from me at such a young age because a doctor was too lazy to do their homework. And you're right. There absolutely should be recourse for us because we are victims. That is my opinion as well. However not many lawsuits have been won and I can't imagine what it would cost to bring one about. Class action lawsuits could happen but for some reason they're not. But it is my hope and prayer that one day there will be justice for those of us who are victims of doctors who prescribed these horrific drugs without informed consent so aggressively. I feel like we were sentenced to a lifetime of hell on Earth simply for trusting our doctor. If I live long enough to see these people brought to justice, I will have lived a full life.
I was prescribed Lithium and Klonopin by a psychiatrist during a stay in a mental health hospital when I was misdiagnosed as bi-polar. I never took the Lithium because I Googled it and discovered it was potentially toxic. I took the Klonopin a few times, but quit because I didn't feel it did anything. My new psychiatrist informed me that I had dodged a bullet. He told me that getting off benzodiazepines is "hell'. I was already suffering, I didn't need hell. I struggle with depression and anxiety like so many others. I am glad my life wasn't ruined by this medication.
I’m so glad you didn’t do them! Good call, i took them for a month as prescribed and I had to do a taper of a year. I truly know what hell is. Hope you’re good and healthy
Wow, a psychiatrist who actually knew that and told you. Consider yourself very blessed to have a doctor who actually cared about you. My PCP/GP was more than happy to write me a prescription with no warning.
A close person in my life was prescribed to take this drug everyday, now he has been for 15 years. Hes terrified to attempt to even come off. Our relationship has suffered and its incredibly sad to think about. Thank you for bringing awareness to this, so many uneducated doctors out there and what these black box drugs do to you.
I was on it for 7 years and now tapering off slowly. The worst part is having no support system as people even nearest to me can't seem to believe me how bad it is. It's a lonely journey.
I've been on it 15 years & been tapering for almost a year now. My support system all have their own serious medical problems. I can't burden them any more with my own Hell. I just pray to survive it & not end up disabled. I already feel like I'm a dead woman walking. Heaven help all of us.
@@drunkensquirrel7545 yeah, I feel this. My family members have their own problems going on, and I feel like a burden. I can't leave the house much so I rarely see most of them. At home, I try to help out financially and in other ways. Even though it's getting more and more difficult, I can't stop working as this sense of shame (of stagnating in life, of being a burden, and so on) eats me up.
Same. People just dont know unless they have experienced it. There are some research showing that getting off Benzos is harder than getting off of heroin. That says a lot!!!
Doctors who don’t prescribe these medications correctly, either from negligence or ignorance, should have their license revoked. Doctors have the power to easily destroy someone’s life.
Lots of malpractice going on. 99% of people do not need drugs. People should not feel desperate enough to go see a psychiatrist. It is like you are falling into a trap.
I had my whole young adulthood and most of my early middle years stolen by mis-applied psych-meds. When I finally broke free, my husband became chronically ill and was treated, in part, with benzodiazepines (for a movement disorder), which we’ve been tapering him off of now for years. My whole life has been affected by these poisons. It sucks.
This “medication” completely upended my life. Made my symptoms so much worse and the withdrawal was brutal. I’m not sure that I’ll ever be the same again. Everything she says hits home for me💔
Thank you for advocating for all of us…….what a sad story but aren’t they all😢😢😢 and thank you for helping us to deprescribe……this is all horrific..its always there that horrible dark place.
I was coaxed to ‘go ahead and take it’, encouraged these drugs were safe and effective, at a time when every young adult is struggling with college and finding their place in the world. Not only was it not effective, it was severely mentally emotionally physically damaging. How can you even live when you get very ill from a drug that’s supposed to help you with your normal life anxiety? Instead of helping, my whole life fell apart for at least a decade because I couldn’t function anymore. THESE DRUGS ARE PURE POISON. You can’t even get compensation because they sneakily throw you under a bus and say ‘’this is your anxiety problem getting worse”. They dismiss those who commit suicide because of the drug in the very same way. They just say, ‘’well they were already mentally ill. That’s why it happened’’…. It’s CRIMINAL!! They even KNOW about these severe adverse effects, but they still will not admit it.
I don’t know how many times over my lifetime I was offered antidepressants ..for depression first then for fibromyalgia ..I must have refused them between six and eight times over a 20 year period ..had I taken them for fibromyalgia I would’ve put on about two stone of weight which is how we measure weight in Ireland which is 14×2 in pounds because I have a friend in my Rural home county in Ireland .. I met her when I went home for Christmas last year and didn’t recognise her and she took antidepressants for a handful of years maybe two years and she has two stone added onto her knees and her hip joints and she’s trying to walk with fibromyalgia she can’t get rid of the weight.. she can’t exercise because she’s overweight and she’s tired ..she’s having a terrible terrible trying to get rid of the weight that the pill, that was supposed to help her, gave her
SUE EVERY ONE OF THEM. THEY ALL KNEW EXACTLY WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO YOU. THEY KNOW THE HORROR THAT YOU WOULD ENDURE. THEY HAVE KNOWN FOR 65 YEARS. YOU COULD END UP DEAD.
Our prayers go out to all the patients that are trying to come off antidepressants. It seems that they are being treated like guinea pigs. All the best
Thank you to both of you for this moving podcast and thank you for the extremely important work you are doing Dr. Josef to educate patients - and other doctors - about the risks of taking psychiatric drugs. Everything that I have heard in your podcasts from yourself and the people you speak to resonates. At one stage over the past twenty years I was on six different medications, including sleeping pills. I am off all of them now except for klonopin, which is proving the hardest to taper - down to only a crumb but it’s still there. I regret I ever went down the road of thinking that pills would solve my problems and that there was something chemically amiss in my brain which made it necessary. (I was told I had to be on a so-called “mood stabiliser” the rest of my life because I was bipolar and it is now obvious that this is completely untrue. ) I had very little support from the medical community, I had to taper mainly using my own instincts and research.
I’m so sorry this happened to you. I am having a nightmare with a tiny dose of benzodiazepines 1 mg because I break a 2milligram pill in half but I don’t seem to be able to cut it out of my life completely I’m getting withdrawal symptoms the most egregious are a nerve itch around my forehead where I would literally rip every hair out of my head so obviously I’ll take half of a pill to stop me shaving my head off and then the other symptom when I say severe sensitivity to sound I mean psychotic almost having a stroke type Breakdown to certain sounds at certain pitches when brakes squeak on trains etc
I didn't sleep for 3 months. maybe lay down and try to sleep and wake up and hour later covered in cold sweats. I think i did permanent damage but they said I'd be on it the rest of my life then took it away. lost my dream job and haven't been the same since. 6 years
@canUfeelMYface After 3 or four days, I'd fall into sleep but wake up an hour later ... it didn't make sense to say I could only lay down an hour and wake in a cold sweat. why are you worried about the wording? I'm trying to explain it best. I can
I started on it in 1994 and abruptly stopped early in 1995. I have been having hot flashes every day since then. More health problems than I want to think about.
I was an opiate addict and frequently diagnosed with stress, and pretty deep PTSD. Many times did psych Doctors try to prescribe antidepressants which i always denied. Except for Wellbutrin about 10 years ago. Took that for about 45 days. My point, having gone through opiate WD I didn't want anything to do with wd from antidepressant meds. Dodged that bullet.
I was put on Xanax at 15 years old, and it helped with my panic attacks at first (I could finally read aloud in class in high school) - but eventually it didn't help anymore and I had to have it increased until I would run out of my script after a week or so and would look for other drugs if i couldnt find more benzos. I was on it for 11 years and had to go into detox to get off of it (reluctantly). I've been off of it for 8 years now and I'm so glad I'm off of it. I also got off of SSRIs 1 year ago which was also brutal, and I was on them for 18 years, so there's hope - we can do it, even if we need professional help to detox. Now im not on any medications and it feels good. I can really relate to Paige. Thanks for this video and for your advocacy doc!
I had started a comment. Not sure where it went so I will give the shortest version. Put on Klonopin, only medication for anxiety that I wasn't aware of. I came off because I ran out and could not refill. After 6 days, I began hallucinating,,started jerking or shaking physically and in my voice. I was aware. I knew it wasn't a seizure . My husband took me to an ER that was manged by a PA that particular night who had worked with alcoholics who were placed on Klonopin before leaving rehab. After the appropriate tests he said he was sure it was the Klonopin and that you should never come off cold turkey and I was fortunate to not have a seizure. He said you have to taper off klonopin long term. He said I could go back on and then taper. I didn't. Thr shaking subsided, thank God I went through months of mental and physical hell. A hell that i didn't know you could experience and not die. I wanted to die not because I didn't want to kive. I just wanted to not live with this suffering.. I did not sleep for 2 weeks. no matter what I took. I was very anxious, depressed, feelings of dread, physical pain in my legs. I found out that doctors really don't know about tapering or tolerance withdrawal which means you haven't I increased your dosage but you are have developed tolerance withdrawal on your prescribed dose. These benzodiazopens were never meant for over 2 weeks. I found a book by Dr Peter Breggin, Harvard trained psychiatrist, who has written extensively, testified to congress, medical witness in criminal cases about the dangers of all psychiatric medications and how addictive they are. The benzodiazopens only take about 2 weeks. Klonopin is not something I craved more of. I wasn't high. He said to never come off cold turkey but if you had been off a week don't go back on because that could be more dangerous. Tapering has to,be long with only a fifth or 10th of medicine every 2 weeks or a month when down to last 1/10th. I was fortunate. My doctor was sympathetic but didn't know about it's destruction. She put me on gabapebtin for leg pain.i decided to stop after 3 months. I began having auditory hallucinations. and became paranoid. Healthy people have committed suicide after being on gabapentin for a few days. One night I could not sleep. This was about 2 weeks off gabapentin. I prayed. I almost drifted off when suddenly I wanted to kill myself. I was not suicidal. I was screaming,, looking for a gun. My husband just held me until I calmed down. I am not high drama. I read 3 of his books. One is about 25 years old. I educated myself. Our health care system is,broken. Not just psychiatric meds. The industry has captured the public regulators and medical curriculum. Also our elected officials receive large donations for their campaigns. The Pharmaceu companies are a business model. We need to realize that our health does not come from a chemical that we are missing even though some short term might,be necessary. The industry doesn't have a goal of cures . A cure would stop the lifetime "maintenance " model.
Doctor, can you speak on the link between benzodiazepine withdrawal and cardiac irregularities, such as arrhythmias, and fluctuations in heart rate and blood pressure? I think these are some of the most disturbing elements of withdrawal, but I can't find much scientific material around them.
I was on it and 🎉 over 8 years. I was on 6mg a day and took it as prescribed. never thought anything of it until I lost my doctor, and they took me off all my meds. I had a lot more anger then because I didn't have informed consent. I just was told I'd be on it the rest of my life.
@mbhike i was forced to. I lost my medication and tried to check into their er. ended up in behavior health stay and they said no benzos. I wish I could do something about it but no one would even take the case
Was on it for over 5 years and had a rapid taper in late July or this year. It’s been over 100 days and I’m still in absolute hell. Need help that doesn’t seem to exist.
Commented on here before, stopped clonazepam after 20 years, 16 years on 8 mg. It was 3 years of hell, I have been off 1 year 5 months finally starting to let up, lost everything doing including entire family. I also have severe nerve damage to all 4 of my limbs, I got Saturday night Palsy on 4 different occasions needing over 7 surgical procedure to get some use in my left and right hand. Doctor that gave in to me denies BIND, and no other doctor once to touch another doctors mistakes. Sometimes, I wonder if it was worth It to stop, to get people back in my life, just to push them further away.
Four months of use, over 80 symptoms, some starting before tapering, and I very nearly didn’t make it off alive, despite a slow taper where I did my best to manage symptoms.
Pfi zer, Pur due, Ro che, Eli Li lly, Mer ck, John son, etc. They only care about profits. Kurt Cobain was put on ritalin at 3, sadly this is not a new thing.
I have been taking 1 mg for 20 years... sometimes 1.25 if very stressed. It was completely agoraphobic, because my panic attacks for so horrific. I was a constant state of stress and literally could not eat/drink. I don't know why it works for me? Maybe just tolerance or knowing i have it. I haven't had any issues with anything! I am 51, and i teach math and am still sharp. Does anyone believe it can be therapeutic. Fyi, before this, i tried EVERYTHING for my anxiety.
I took Klonopin for over a decade and it really helped me function and be able to get a job. (Social anxiety/depression) If you're functioning well and content i would NOT stop if i were you. My doctor had taken me off of them and the withdrawal wasnt fun but i made it through with the help of cannabis . My dose was .5 mg sometimes id take 1 mg. Best of luck to you
Been over a decade that i got off Klonopin after being on for about a decade. Was on .5-1 mg daily. Cannabis was the key for me to deal with the withdrawal symptoms.
How long you been on the clonazepam and how many mg a day do you take,do you take it everyday or as needed,how many days can you go without it,how long does it take to kick in for anxiety
How long you been on the clonazepam and how many mg a day do you take,do you take it everyday or as needed,how many days can you go without it,how long does it take to kick in for anxiety
Go through videos on this channel. Ashton protocol available online will give you an idea how to taper depending on your dose . Key is to taper very slow to avoid brain injury and bad withdrawal symptoms
I am not down onour doctors. I believe they truly want to heal. I do have a problem with how our medical curriculum was changed to prescribe chemicals for treatment, for maintenance, never cure. Chemicals our bodies needed but never had. I went to,a medical school. All health care providers are as good as their training. I think we are good at physical trauma, at most diagnosis. I don't know any doctors who are really trained on rhe importance of vitamins, minerals and what happens when they are depleted. Then we have specialties where the training is focused on just one part of the body.
@@BlacFireSan YEs...but it was Ativan (basically same thing) It stopped working after 1 week and I waas having intersdose withdrawals..i kept taking for about 2 weeks and when I started cutting down..all hell broke lose for nearly 3 years 24/7 ...that was in early 2016 ...but now I am 100% back to normal.
I took Xanax daily for about four years, and it got to the point where I felt so horrible that I was able to quit almost cold turkey. I weaned off of 5-6mg/day over about two weeks, only because I was afraid of seizures if I stopped too fast. Fortunately I didn’t have any withdrawal symptoms, and in fact, I felt pretty amazing for a few months. I probably could have been diagnosed as bipolar at the time, if I had seen a psychiatrist. It was like a switch flipped and my brain turned back on after being in “standby” mode for four years. I feel so bad for people who deal with PAWS, and I’m so grateful i haven’t experienced that.
Wow. I'll gladly let you in on to the fact that I have only heard the same story as yours from one person and guess what, he's my friend. I was very surprised when he told me he just stopped and no withdrawals were experienced. Glad for you, girl. What's your diet like please? Thank you.
Usually it’s easier to wean off it if it’s your first time using it consistently. Don’t ever get back on it though, as it gets harder and harder to wean off each time you start taking it again. This was the case with me. First time using it after a year I weaned off no real issues. I restarted a few years later and it was much more difficult to wean the second time.
Have there been long-term studies of the effects of these drugs on developing brains of children and teenagers? Should they be taking the same kind of meds given to adults?
Doc, I am tapering xanax Ir, I take 0.0625 in the morning, .25 afternoon And .50 at night. I have a question. I take half a quarter of a .50 pill I dissolve it in water, Today, I drank it and spilled a little bit of it. I feel awful. ¿Should I compensate by adding a tiny (I don’r have a scale but I can shave a little bit of it) amount more in the afternoon or just ride it out?
@@MrDurgathilak The bottom line is to never, ever take big pharma poisons. Learn to deal with anxiety in a natural and positive way. Embrace it, because it's part of the human condition.
I was due to get isotretinoin in tiny doses (pure vitamin a)for severe acne and I will say the acne was severe ..it was an allergic reaction acne to Lyrica by the way but I would’ve had to be so careful if I got pregnant on isotretinone..I’d have had to have an abortion as isotretinoin causes severe birth defects and at this stage I actually did want to have a child late in life about age 35 ..in the end the dermatologist who was prescribing isotretinoin to me told me to stop first and come off the Lyrica and see would the acne go which ,by the way, it did. The Lyrica was causing the acne
@stellaancimer8505 You will see yourself in agony due to what this drug will do to you, your former ocd will bê nothing in comparsion, all that while you're bed bound in severe pain 😊
Idr which Benzo it was, but the original clinical trial on one of them tested efficacy against placebo at 4, 8, and 12 weeks. That study showed benefit compared to placebo at 4 weeks, tapering off to no benefit over placebo at 8 weeks’ use, and subjects did *worse* on the Benzo than on placebo at 12 weeks. Longer term use was making anxiety and panic worse, not better. So what does pharma do? Publish just the result that benefits their message: the 4 week usage efficacy. Time and again, same sort of shenanigans with psychopharm. Lies by omission, and harm to millions upon millions of people.
This was very unclear in terms of how she tapered, dose, length of time of taper on dose , how much she was taking initially. All very unclear. Life after Klonopin would have more clarity with an understanding of how the taper was done.
hey I was on klonipin for 8 years at 2mg and when initally started i was switched to valium and the doctor severly underdosed me because she didn't convert the dosaging correctly.(went from 2mg to 1mg) So after a month I eventually reinstated the klonipin at 1.25mg,after my brain adjusted to that dosage and i felt stable I started to slowly cut my pills, I used a straight razor and scale and weighed the pill and slowly cut it every two weeks. I had periods where i didnt feel ready to cut down so i dont know exactly if i cut it every other week or 3 weeks. It took me about a year and some change to do this taper, hope this helped!
Hey! I did try to take some antipsychotics and anti depressant to manage the symptoms but honestly it made it WORSE! Best reccomendation I can give is take Lethanine (helped me a lot) magnesium, and all the daily vitamins! Sometimes melatonin does help but I became dependent on it one point so I stopped taking it. If you can physically handle it light exercises help a lot (yoga and walking) but if you can’t just be gentle with yourself every day your brain is healing!
THEY WILL DESTROY YOU. THERE ARE WHOLE PERIODS OF MY LIFE I CAN'T REMEMBER BECAUSE OF THOSE POISONS, AND THAT IS NOT THE WORST OF IT, BY ANY MEANS. HORROR IS THE ONLY WAY TO DESCRIBE IT.
Sadly, klonopin helped me more than any antidepressant they tried on me. Celexa made me gain 50 pounds and gave me more panic attacks than it took away. I’m not going to touch antipsychotics like one doctor wanted. I’m on 0.5 of klonopkn now. 0.25 twice a day. I want to taper eventually. But it’s given me courage to do so many things I was always so uncomfortable doing.
You are in for a RUDE AWAKENING WHEN YOU WANT TO STOP THOSE DRUGS. EVEN ONE PILL OF 0.5 mg per day. IT WILL BE A VERY RUDE AWAKENING. EVEN IF YOU "TAPER" THAT DOSE OFF EXTREMELY SLOWLY. THIS IS WHAT THEY NEVER TOLD YOU. READ THAT AGAIN.
I get 120 Klonopin Pills 3x a day for Anxiety and Panic attacks Its the only med that has helped me and makes me feel normal Ive been on it for 6 years
Just be careful when you decide to come off it. Two years off 1 mg. Klonapin cold turkey...still suffering from horrendous protracted withdrawals. I sang the praises of this drug too...until I stopped taking it. Then you realize--too late--that you have become dependent upon it. Don't think it cannot happen to you.
I dont understand why they DON'T talk about how rough it is to get off antidepressants (brain zaps) but only benzos. I personally was on both for over a decade and personally i got off both at different times and let me tell you something, they were equally as hard to get off.
You obviously ignore the work / research of Dr. Heather Ashton and the Ashton manual. These drugs are known to be profoundly damaging AT LEAST SINCE 50 YEARS AGO. Not only Liam was damaged by these but more than probably: Chris Cornell, Taylor Hawkins, Del Shannon, Heath Ledger, etc. And thousands of non famous persons like me. Are you an MD or a big pharma to feel entitled to tell these persons what experience they had with these substances? Best wishes.
It wasn’t my intention to benzo shame I’m sharing my story as a caution of taking them with little to no education in what benzos do to you and how awful the withdrawals are
Commented on here before, stopped clonazepam after 20 years, 16 years on 8 mg. It was 3 years of hell, I have been off 1 year 5 months finally starting to let up, lost everything doing including entire family. I also have severe nerve damage to all 4 of my limbs, I got Saturday night Palsy on 4 different occasions needing over 7 surgical procedure to get some use in my left and right hand. Doctor that gave in to me denies BIND, and no other doctor once to touch another doctors mistakes. Sometimes, I wonder if it was worth It to stop, to get people back in my life, just to push them further away.
@ 8mg plus 7 other medication cortasey of Va, who cares and yes for a fact 8 mg klonopin 2 mg 4 times a day they can’t be sued once you get out that’s how they do this who cares the dose though just stop it was 3 / 1/2 years hell so what no one 1️⃣ s crying for me.
Klonopin/Xanax took over my life from age 16 to 42, starting at .5 mg daily and climbing to 6 mg-all prescribed by doctors. Now, at 44, I’m still dealing with PAWS and realizing my anxiety wasn't actually worsening over those decades; it was withdrawals I didn’t recognize. No one ever warned me about the risks of long-term benzo use, and I feel like someone should be held accountable for the lack of transparency about the dangers. Perhaps I should tell my story sometime.
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@@breesechick Thank you. Thank goodness for rehab :)
My mother pased away in her mid 40s from overdose. She was taking high doses of Klonopin, sometimes with alcohol.
@hummingpylon I'm sorry I love. I'm sending you are hugs and strength.
My story is very similar to yours as I was taking six milligrams of Clonzapam for 18 years. I've been on a SSRI, mood stabilizer and depression medication for 23 years total. Looking back I now see that my anxiety at the time was just situational because my daughter had passed away. But my doctor did not take that into consideration before prescribing a benzo, SSRI and mood stabilizer. Within 5 minutes, he diagnosed me with bipolar which was an absolutely wrong diagnosis. I am so mad that my life was taken from me at such a young age because a doctor was too lazy to do their homework. And you're right. There absolutely should be recourse for us because we are victims. That is my opinion as well. However not many lawsuits have been won and I can't imagine what it would cost to bring one about. Class action lawsuits could happen but for some reason they're not. But it is my hope and prayer that one day there will be justice for those of us who are victims of doctors who prescribed these horrific drugs without informed consent so aggressively. I feel like we were sentenced to a lifetime of hell on Earth simply for trusting our doctor. If I live long enough to see these people brought to justice, I will have lived a full life.
I was prescribed Lithium and Klonopin by a psychiatrist during a stay in a mental health hospital when I was misdiagnosed as bi-polar. I never took the Lithium because I Googled it and discovered it was potentially toxic. I took the Klonopin a few times, but quit because I didn't feel it did anything. My new psychiatrist informed me that I had dodged a bullet. He told me that getting off benzodiazepines is "hell'. I was already suffering, I didn't need hell. I struggle with depression and anxiety like so many others. I am glad my life wasn't ruined by this medication.
I’m so glad you didn’t do them! Good call, i took them for a month as prescribed and I had to do a taper of a year. I truly know what hell is. Hope you’re good and healthy
Wow, a psychiatrist who actually knew that and told you. Consider yourself very blessed to have a doctor who actually cared about you. My PCP/GP was more than happy to write me a prescription with no warning.
A close person in my life was prescribed to take this drug everyday, now he has been for 15 years. Hes terrified to attempt to even come off. Our relationship has suffered and its incredibly sad to think about. Thank you for bringing awareness to this, so many uneducated doctors out there and what these black box drugs do to you.
THEY KNOW ALL ABOUT THESE HORRIFIC DRUGS AND WHAT THEY DO. THEY ARE FAR FROM UNEDUCATED.
THEY ALL KNOW. EVERY ONE OF THEM. THEY KNOW HOW SERIOUS THIS IS.
@@incognito595 As an after thought you are 1000% correct!!!
I was on it for 7 years and now tapering off slowly. The worst part is having no support system as people even nearest to me can't seem to believe me how bad it is. It's a lonely journey.
Same here. It's very lonely
I've been on it 15 years & been tapering for almost a year now. My support system all have their own serious medical problems. I can't burden them any more with my own Hell. I just pray to survive it & not end up disabled. I already feel like I'm a dead woman walking. Heaven help all of us.
@@drunkensquirrel7545 yeah, I feel this. My family members have their own problems going on, and I feel like a burden. I can't leave the house much so I rarely see most of them.
At home, I try to help out financially and in other ways. Even though it's getting more and more difficult, I can't stop working as this sense of shame (of stagnating in life, of being a burden, and so on) eats me up.
Same. People just dont know unless they have experienced it. There are some research showing that getting off Benzos is harder than getting off of heroin. That says a lot!!!
@@drunkensquirrel7545what is the method you’re using if I may aask!
THEY HAVE KNOWN FOR 65 YEARS WHAT THOSE DRUGS DO. 65 YEARS.
Doctors who don’t prescribe these medications correctly, either from negligence or ignorance, should have their license revoked. Doctors have the power to easily destroy someone’s life.
Meanwhile, the FDA just approved Samidorphan and olanzapine to be prescribed for bipolar disorder, a truly toxic combo. Know your enemy
I used to love your channel until you went on spreading false information about how BENZOS
@@Travluminatii benzos should only be used short term
Lots of malpractice going on. 99% of people do not need drugs. People should not feel desperate enough to go see a psychiatrist. It is like you are falling into a trap.
@@Travluminatiithis is very real information. My life was also severely damaged from long term benzo prescription
I had my whole young adulthood and most of my early middle years stolen by mis-applied psych-meds. When I finally broke free, my husband became chronically ill and was treated, in part, with benzodiazepines (for a movement disorder), which we’ve been tapering him off of now for years. My whole life has been affected by these poisons.
It sucks.
I'm so sorry this happened. Wishing you the best with your husbands taper
I'm so sorry. In time, you will both be feeling better. Hang in there. I like that terminology you used - "mis-applied psych meds"
They are poisons I'm trapped on
These stories make me sad for those who are suffering. I will keep you in my prayers.
Same here. I strongly feel that those stories should have their epilogue in court...
This “medication” completely upended my life. Made my symptoms so much worse and the withdrawal was brutal. I’m not sure that I’ll ever be the same again. Everything she says hits home for me💔
Thank you for advocating for all of us…….what a sad story but aren’t they all😢😢😢 and thank you for helping us to deprescribe……this is all horrific..its always there that horrible dark place.
Thank you for your advocacy, Paige
I'm so sad for your loss Paige ❤
I was coaxed to ‘go ahead and take it’, encouraged these drugs were safe and effective, at a time when every young adult is struggling with college and finding their place in the world. Not only was it not effective, it was severely mentally emotionally physically damaging. How can you even live when you get very ill from a drug that’s supposed to help you with your normal life anxiety? Instead of helping, my whole life fell apart for at least a decade because I couldn’t function anymore. THESE DRUGS ARE PURE POISON. You can’t even get compensation because they sneakily throw you under a bus and say ‘’this is your anxiety problem getting worse”. They dismiss those who commit suicide because of the drug in the very same way. They just say, ‘’well they were already mentally ill. That’s why it happened’’…. It’s CRIMINAL!! They even KNOW about these severe adverse effects, but they still will not admit it.
I don’t know how many times over my lifetime I was offered antidepressants ..for depression first then for fibromyalgia ..I must have refused them between six and eight times over a 20 year period ..had I taken them for fibromyalgia I would’ve put on about two stone of weight which is how we measure weight in Ireland which is 14×2 in pounds because I have a friend in my Rural home county in Ireland .. I met her when I went home for Christmas last year and didn’t recognise her and she took antidepressants for a handful of years maybe two years and she has two stone added onto her knees and her hip joints and she’s trying to walk with fibromyalgia she can’t get rid of the weight.. she can’t exercise because she’s overweight and she’s tired ..she’s having a terrible terrible trying to get rid of the weight that the pill, that was supposed to help her, gave her
EXACTLY. SOME PEOPLE JUST DON'T GET IT. THEY WILL HAVE THEIR EYES OPENED.
PRECISELY. THE SUICIDES ARE FROM THE HELL ON EARTH THAT THE PATIENTS SUFFER. IT IS TRULY UNSPEAKABLE SUFFERING. I KNOW.
SUE EVERY ONE OF THEM. THEY ALL KNEW EXACTLY WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO YOU. THEY KNOW THE HORROR THAT YOU WOULD ENDURE. THEY HAVE KNOWN FOR 65 YEARS. YOU COULD END UP DEAD.
Our prayers go out to all the patients that are trying to come off antidepressants. It seems that they are being treated like guinea pigs. All the best
I was on it for over 4 years and it ruined my life.
How come?
Hang in there.
@@Samanthabrown1496 I just felt so sick.
Your girlfriend
😢🙏
Thank you to both of you for this moving podcast and thank you for the extremely important work you are doing Dr. Josef to educate patients - and other doctors - about the risks of taking psychiatric drugs. Everything that I have heard in your podcasts from yourself and the people you speak to resonates. At one stage over the past twenty years I was on six different medications, including sleeping pills. I am off all of them now except for klonopin, which is proving the hardest to taper - down to only a crumb but it’s still there. I regret I ever went down the road of thinking that pills would solve my problems and that there was something chemically amiss in my brain which made it necessary. (I was told I had to be on a so-called “mood stabiliser” the rest of my life because I was bipolar and it is now obvious that this is completely untrue. ) I had very little support from the medical community, I had to taper mainly using my own instincts and research.
I’m so sorry this happened to you. I am having a nightmare with a tiny dose of benzodiazepines 1 mg because I break a 2milligram pill in half but I don’t seem to be able to cut it out of my life completely I’m getting withdrawal symptoms the most egregious are a nerve itch around my forehead where I would literally rip every hair out of my head so obviously I’ll take half of a pill to stop me shaving my head off and then the other symptom when I say severe sensitivity to sound I mean psychotic almost having a stroke type Breakdown to certain sounds at certain pitches when brakes squeak on trains etc
THEY ARE FRAUDS AND CHARLATANS AND CON MEN.
I didn't sleep for 3 months. maybe lay down and try to sleep and wake up and hour later covered in cold sweats. I think i did permanent damage but they said I'd be on it the rest of my life then took it away. lost my dream job and haven't been the same since. 6 years
How were you able to wake up in cold sweats if you didn't sleep?
@canUfeelMYface After 3 or four days, I'd fall into sleep but wake up an hour later ... it didn't make sense to say I could only lay down an hour and wake in a cold sweat. why are you worried about the wording? I'm trying to explain it best. I can
@@jasonsenator6144 I'm not worried.
I'm struggling to understand what you are trying to explain.
Do you not wish to be understood?
@@canUfeelMYface concussions suck
@@jasonsenator6144hows yr sleep now?
I started on it in 1994 and abruptly stopped early in 1995. I have been having hot flashes every day since then. More health problems than I want to think about.
It put me on menopause, I feel almost constantly sick and rarely sleep at night .
But, that's 29 years! Less than a year of use and 29 years of hot flashes? Anything else apart from the flashes? Thank you.
Akathisia, Hyperacusis, fatigue
@@boplo1 it’s unfortunate it happens to some people. Some take it for years with no issue
I was an opiate addict and frequently diagnosed with stress, and pretty deep PTSD. Many times did psych Doctors try to prescribe antidepressants which i always denied. Except for Wellbutrin about 10 years ago. Took that for about 45 days. My point, having gone through opiate WD I didn't want anything to do with wd from antidepressant meds. Dodged that bullet.
I was put on Xanax at 15 years old, and it helped with my panic attacks at first (I could finally read aloud in class in high school) - but eventually it didn't help anymore and I had to have it increased until I would run out of my script after a week or so and would look for other drugs if i couldnt find more benzos. I was on it for 11 years and had to go into detox to get off of it (reluctantly). I've been off of it for 8 years now and I'm so glad I'm off of it. I also got off of SSRIs 1 year ago which was also brutal, and I was on them for 18 years, so there's hope - we can do it, even if we need professional help to detox. Now im not on any medications and it feels good. I can really relate to Paige. Thanks for this video and for your advocacy doc!
I had started a comment. Not sure where it went so I will give the shortest version. Put on Klonopin, only medication for anxiety that I wasn't aware of. I came off because I ran out and could not refill. After 6 days, I began hallucinating,,started jerking or shaking physically and in my voice. I was aware. I knew it wasn't a seizure . My husband took me to an ER that was manged by a PA that particular night who had worked with alcoholics who were placed on Klonopin before leaving rehab. After the appropriate tests he said he was sure it was the Klonopin and that you should never come off cold turkey and I was fortunate to not have a seizure. He said you have to taper off klonopin long term. He said I could go back on and then taper. I didn't. Thr shaking subsided, thank God I went through months of mental and physical hell. A hell that i didn't know you could experience and not die. I wanted to die not because I didn't want to kive. I just wanted to not live with this suffering.. I did not sleep for 2 weeks. no matter what I took. I was very anxious, depressed, feelings of dread, physical pain in my legs. I found out that doctors really don't know about tapering or tolerance withdrawal which means you haven't I increased your dosage but you are have developed tolerance withdrawal on your prescribed dose. These benzodiazopens were never meant for over 2 weeks. I found a book by Dr Peter Breggin, Harvard trained psychiatrist, who has written extensively, testified to congress, medical witness in criminal cases about the dangers of all psychiatric medications and how addictive they are. The benzodiazopens only take about 2 weeks. Klonopin is not something I craved more of. I wasn't high. He said to never come off cold turkey but if you had been off a week don't go back on because that could be more dangerous. Tapering has to,be long with only a fifth or 10th of medicine every 2 weeks or a month when down to last 1/10th. I was fortunate. My doctor was sympathetic but didn't know about it's destruction. She put me on gabapebtin for leg pain.i decided to stop after 3 months. I began having auditory hallucinations. and became paranoid. Healthy people have committed suicide after being on gabapentin for a few days. One night I could not sleep. This was about 2 weeks off gabapentin. I prayed. I almost drifted off when suddenly I wanted to kill myself. I was not suicidal. I was screaming,, looking for a gun. My husband just held me until I calmed down. I am not high drama. I read 3 of his books. One is about 25 years old. I educated myself. Our health care system is,broken. Not just psychiatric meds. The industry has captured the public regulators and medical curriculum. Also our elected officials receive large donations for their campaigns. The Pharmaceu companies are a business model. We need to realize that our health does not come from a chemical that we are missing even though some short term might,be necessary. The industry doesn't have a goal of cures . A cure would stop the lifetime "maintenance " model.
Doctor, can you speak on the link between benzodiazepine withdrawal and cardiac irregularities, such as arrhythmias, and fluctuations in heart rate and blood pressure? I think these are some of the most disturbing elements of withdrawal, but I can't find much scientific material around them.
He does talk about that in this
@katiehorneshaw995 Yes, but more about whether these are transient symptoms or new conditions that will be lifelong.
4 years off …. Not sure I’ll ever be right …. Searing tinnitus and head pressure
Again... Why can't doctors be sued for 1) not telling people the side effects
2) for over prescribing
3) keeping people on it too long
THEY HIRE PEOPLE TO PUBLICLY DEFEND THEIR ACTIONS, AS DESPICABLE AS THAT IS.
The lawsuits are near impossible to win.
THEY HAVE HIGH PRICED LAWYERS WHO GET THEM OFF
Put this much research and effort into the antipsychotic epidemic
I was on it and 🎉 over 8 years. I was on 6mg a day and took it as prescribed. never thought anything of it until I lost my doctor, and they took me off all my meds. I had a lot more anger then because I didn't have informed consent. I just was told I'd be on it the rest of my life.
6mg a day? For 8 years? Stopping abruptly would have been extremely dangerous…
@mbhike i was forced to. I lost my medication and tried to check into their er. ended up in behavior health stay and they said no benzos. I wish I could do something about it but no one would even take the case
A lot of these medications directly affect your ability to understand these changes over time or are gradual enough to escape awareness.
Was on it for over 5 years and had a rapid taper in late July or this year. It’s been over 100 days and I’m still in absolute hell. Need help that doesn’t seem to exist.
God bless you
Commented on here before, stopped clonazepam after 20 years, 16 years on 8 mg. It was 3 years of hell, I have been off 1 year 5 months finally starting to let up, lost everything doing including entire family. I also have severe nerve damage to all 4 of my limbs, I got Saturday night Palsy on 4 different occasions needing over 7 surgical procedure to get some use in my left and right hand. Doctor that gave in to me denies BIND, and no other doctor once to touch another doctors mistakes. Sometimes, I wonder if it was worth
It to stop, to get people back in my life, just to push them further away.
Four months of use, over 80 symptoms, some starting before tapering, and I very nearly didn’t make it off alive, despite a slow taper where I did my best to manage symptoms.
Who puts a child of 13 on 8 different medications for agoraphobia?
Pfi zer, Pur due, Ro che, Eli Li lly, Mer ck, John son, etc. They only care about profits.
Kurt Cobain was put on ritalin at 3, sadly this is not a new thing.
17 I think she said... but your point still stands
I have been taking 1 mg for 20 years... sometimes 1.25 if very stressed. It was completely agoraphobic, because my panic attacks for so horrific. I was a constant state of stress and literally could not eat/drink. I don't know why it works for me? Maybe just tolerance or knowing i have it. I haven't had any issues with anything! I am 51, and i teach math and am still sharp. Does anyone believe it can be therapeutic. Fyi, before this, i tried EVERYTHING for my anxiety.
I took Klonopin for over a decade and it really helped me function and be able to get a job. (Social anxiety/depression) If you're functioning well and content i would NOT stop if i were you. My doctor had taken me off of them and the withdrawal wasnt fun but i made it through with the help of cannabis . My dose was .5 mg sometimes id take 1 mg. Best of luck to you
I was prescribed clonazepam due to wanting a therapy referral from my GP. I declined
Been over a decade that i got off Klonopin after being on for about a decade. Was on .5-1 mg daily. Cannabis was the key for me to deal with the withdrawal symptoms.
Actually it's the only thing that helped my anxiety besides therapy...
Same
Update in 2 years once it ruinned your life and you're much worst.
How long you been on the clonazepam and how many mg a day do you take,do you take it everyday or as needed,how many days can you go without it,how long does it take to kick in for anxiety
How long you been on the clonazepam and how many mg a day do you take,do you take it everyday or as needed,how many days can you go without it,how long does it take to kick in for anxiety
Can you please tell us how to stop it?
Read the Ashton manual, it's free, search for it.
I did a water taper which took about six months with no issues at all.
dr josef has videos also
Go through videos on this channel. Ashton protocol available online will give you an idea how to taper depending on your dose . Key is to taper very slow to avoid brain injury and bad withdrawal symptoms
I am not down onour doctors. I believe they truly want to heal. I do have a problem with how our medical curriculum was changed to prescribe chemicals for treatment, for maintenance, never cure. Chemicals our bodies needed but never had. I went to,a medical school. All health care providers are as good as their training. I think we are good at physical trauma, at most diagnosis. I don't know any doctors who are really trained on rhe importance of vitamins, minerals and what happens when they are depleted. Then we have specialties where the training is focused on just one part of the body.
Wrecked mine in 2 weeks.
U were on it for two weeks?
@@BlacFireSan YEs...but it was Ativan (basically same thing) It stopped working after 1 week and I waas having intersdose withdrawals..i kept taking for about 2 weeks and when I started cutting down..all hell broke lose for nearly 3 years 24/7 ...that was in early 2016 ...but now I am 100% back to normal.
🙏
My first symptoms started with in that timeframe as well, but of course nobody recognized them for what they were.
I took Xanax daily for about four years, and it got to the point where I felt so horrible that I was able to quit almost cold turkey. I weaned off of 5-6mg/day over about two weeks, only because I was afraid of seizures if I stopped too fast. Fortunately I didn’t have any withdrawal symptoms, and in fact, I felt pretty amazing for a few months. I probably could have been diagnosed as bipolar at the time, if I had seen a psychiatrist. It was like a switch flipped and my brain turned back on after being in “standby” mode for four years. I feel so bad for people who deal with PAWS, and I’m so grateful i haven’t experienced that.
Wow. I'll gladly let you in on to the fact that I have only heard the same story as yours from one person and guess what, he's my friend. I was very surprised when he told me he just stopped and no withdrawals were experienced. Glad for you, girl. What's your diet like please? Thank you.
Usually it’s easier to wean off it if it’s your first time using it consistently. Don’t ever get back on it though, as it gets harder and harder to wean off each time you start taking it again. This was the case with me. First time using it after a year I weaned off no real issues. I restarted a few years later and it was much more difficult to wean the second time.
Iam on and off of clonazepam 0.25 to 1 mg since 4 years please help from India
Same for me 😢
I was on ,75 mg for about 8 yrs. I did a water taper for about 6 months with no issues at all.@@Daf4e
You are also on an SSRI.
@@Daf4eare you also in India?
@@ranjittyagi9354 yes
Have there been long-term studies of the effects of these drugs on developing brains of children and teenagers? Should they be taking the same kind of meds given to adults?
Switch over to Valium and taper over a year or two.
No, and many children have been harmed. Mine included. My son is still suffering from the benzos prescribed him at age 17, he's now 37.
It helps my panic attacks at 0.25mgs
Doc, I am tapering xanax Ir,
I take 0.0625 in the morning,
.25 afternoon
And .50 at night.
I have a question.
I take half a quarter of a .50 pill I dissolve it in water,
Today, I drank it and spilled a little bit of it.
I feel awful. ¿Should I compensate by adding a tiny (I don’r have a scale but I can shave a little bit of it) amount more in the afternoon or just ride it out?
4:28 I had this exact thought
Where are the solutions? These people need hope.
Pray and believe
Im tappering off Alprazalam. I was prescribed it for 15 years tooo damn long!! Im down to .25 once a day and can't seem to get past that!
Over 8 year is a lot, it is an hard drug and No Joke with Psychopharmaka
Again I will promote the Ashton manual. Get a copy. Give it to your doctor.
So whats the bottom line here
Psych drugs are placebo at best, extremely neurotoxic at worst.
@@dalefrank3713 👈🏻what they said. !!!
They help but then they should be given only for a month. Im taking it 4 years and cant stop
@@dalefrank3713no, they sometimes really help. And yes, they’re neurotoxic.
@@MrDurgathilak The bottom line is to never, ever take big pharma poisons. Learn to deal with anxiety in a natural and positive way. Embrace it, because it's part of the human condition.
Obviously a fetus will get that med in it. I cant imagine what a newborn would go thru.
I was due to get isotretinoin in tiny doses (pure vitamin a)for severe acne and I will say the acne was severe ..it was an allergic reaction acne to Lyrica by the way but I would’ve had to be so careful if I got pregnant on isotretinone..I’d have had to have an abortion as isotretinoin causes severe birth defects and at this stage I actually did want to have a child late in life about age 35 ..in the end the dermatologist who was prescribing isotretinoin to me told me to stop first and come off the Lyrica and see would the acne go which ,by the way, it did. The Lyrica was causing the acne
There is now an entire protocol for people on Accutane, designed to prevent anyone taking it from getting pregnant while on it.
Klonopin is one hell of a drug!...
It saved my brain from ocd😊
My valium has made mine be worse, and given me an anxiety disorder
@stellaancimer8505 You will see yourself in agony due to what this drug will do to you, your former ocd will bê nothing in comparsion, all that while you're bed bound in severe pain 😊
I took it for years, it was awful.
How did you stop?
I started taking supplements
@@DavidB.Fischer like what?
@@DavidB.Fischeryes, which ones? Because I’ve never found one that worked
@@i.ehrenfest349 I think it was clonazepam if I’m not mistaken
Idr which Benzo it was, but the original clinical trial on one of them tested efficacy against placebo at 4, 8, and 12 weeks. That study showed benefit compared to placebo at 4 weeks, tapering off to no benefit over placebo at 8 weeks’ use, and subjects did *worse* on the Benzo than on placebo at 12 weeks. Longer term use was making anxiety and panic worse, not better. So what does pharma do? Publish just the result that benefits their message: the 4 week usage efficacy. Time and again, same sort of shenanigans with psychopharm. Lies by omission, and harm to millions upon millions of people.
This was very unclear in terms of how she tapered, dose, length of time of taper on dose , how much she was taking initially. All very unclear. Life after Klonopin would have more clarity with an understanding of how the taper was done.
hey I was on klonipin for 8 years at 2mg and when initally started i was switched to valium and the doctor severly underdosed me because she didn't convert the dosaging correctly.(went from 2mg to 1mg) So after a month I eventually reinstated the klonipin at 1.25mg,after my brain adjusted to that dosage and i felt stable I started to slowly cut my pills, I used a straight razor and scale and weighed the pill and slowly cut it every two weeks. I had periods where i didnt feel ready to cut down so i dont know exactly if i cut it every other week or 3 weeks. It took me about a year and some change to do this taper, hope this helped!
@@PaigeBaker-qz2tmdid you use other meds to come off? Are you on other drugs too? Ty
Hey! I did try to take some antipsychotics and anti depressant to manage the symptoms but honestly it made it WORSE! Best reccomendation I can give is take Lethanine (helped me a lot) magnesium, and all the daily vitamins! Sometimes melatonin does help but I became dependent on it one point so I stopped taking it.
If you can physically handle it light exercises help a lot (yoga and walking) but if you can’t just be gentle with yourself every day your brain is healing!
Look into limbic retraining
THEY WILL DESTROY YOU. THERE ARE WHOLE PERIODS OF MY LIFE I CAN'T REMEMBER BECAUSE OF THOSE POISONS, AND THAT IS NOT THE WORST OF IT, BY ANY MEANS. HORROR IS THE ONLY WAY TO DESCRIBE IT.
Why so many so-called professionals are such negligent, incompetent morons? Or are they just purposefully harmful and evil??
Sadly, klonopin helped me more than any antidepressant they tried on me. Celexa made me gain 50 pounds and gave me more panic attacks than it took away. I’m not going to touch antipsychotics like one doctor wanted. I’m on 0.5 of klonopkn now. 0.25 twice a day. I want to taper eventually. But it’s given me courage to do so many things I was always so uncomfortable doing.
You are in for a RUDE AWAKENING WHEN YOU WANT TO STOP THOSE DRUGS. EVEN ONE PILL OF 0.5 mg per day. IT WILL BE A VERY RUDE AWAKENING. EVEN IF YOU "TAPER" THAT DOSE OFF EXTREMELY SLOWLY. THIS IS WHAT THEY NEVER TOLD YOU. READ THAT AGAIN.
@ just did. I’ve tapered down to 0.125 before from 2mg
@ and I was told I had to taper and it would be unpleasant
@@WTB_Actsthat dose isnt very high. I was on .5- 1 mg for like a decade and got off with the help of cannabis.
I get 120 Klonopin Pills 3x a day for Anxiety and Panic attacks
Its the only med that has helped me and makes me feel normal
Ive been on it for 6 years
Just be careful when you decide to come off it. Two years off 1 mg. Klonapin cold turkey...still suffering from horrendous protracted withdrawals.
I sang the praises of this drug too...until I stopped taking it. Then you realize--too late--that you have become dependent upon it. Don't think it cannot happen to you.
I dont understand why they DON'T talk about how rough it is to get off antidepressants (brain zaps) but only benzos. I personally was on both for over a decade and personally i got off both at different times and let me tell you something, they were equally as hard to get off.
All of these women had issues to begin with and no one talks about that
Many ppl go on these meds for non-psychiatric reasons and have the exact same issues.
@@dalefrank3713misdiagnosis
Let me guess - are you with Scientology?
She is talking about it in the interview. Watch it again.
Encouraging people to go off meds like this is irresponsible.
@@GeminiDoodle and do u know why? He runs his own "rehab" center. 😆
He wants us to check into one of his taper clinics. 😅
Irreponsible is to prescribe this kind of drug as a treatment for anything, "treatment" that after the treatment you're completely ruinned and damaged
Ever since Liam Payne passed away Klonopin has been making news headlines for legitimate zero legitimate reason
You obviously ignore the work / research of Dr. Heather Ashton and the Ashton manual.
These drugs are known to be profoundly damaging AT LEAST SINCE 50 YEARS AGO.
Not only Liam was damaged by these but more than probably: Chris Cornell, Taylor Hawkins, Del Shannon, Heath Ledger, etc.
And thousands of non famous persons like me.
Are you an MD or a big pharma to feel entitled to tell these persons what experience they had with these substances?
Best wishes.
Eh??
@@GeoplanetjaneLiam Payne, Google his name. He was 31 and from the UK. Died in Buenos Aires.
Trump will make medicines affordable again
Lol, and deadlier than ever. If that's even possible. He obviously works for them and is their no.1 salesman with OWS.
Seems your poor information status involves politics as well as medicine.
Oh? How? He has no clue. He did zero to that during his Presidency.
@@Geoplanetjane He will, this time. Believe me.
STOP BENZO SHAMING
You must be taking them ..,,.klonopin RUINED my life……..just wait ……they go paradoxical
You can have mine. All yours.
Coping skills? Na just take benzos. Shame on you!
@@recynd77people buy K pins on the streets all day.
It wasn’t my intention to benzo shame I’m sharing my story as a caution of taking them with little to no education in what benzos do to you and how awful the withdrawals are
XANAX IS KING 👑
So many thought the same. One day you’ll be fked enjoy.
No. Hear Dr. Jordan Pearson’s story.
Commented on here before, stopped clonazepam after 20 years, 16 years on 8 mg. It was 3 years of hell, I have been off 1 year 5 months finally starting to let up, lost everything doing including entire family. I also have severe nerve damage to all 4 of my limbs, I got Saturday night Palsy on 4 different occasions needing over 7 surgical procedure to get some use in my left and right hand. Doctor that gave in to me denies BIND, and no other doctor once to touch another doctors mistakes. Sometimes, I wonder if it was worth
It to stop, to get people back in my life, just to push them further away.
Damn 8 😲 is so much. I had problems getting off .5 mg- 1 mg.
@ 8mg plus 7 other medication cortasey of Va, who cares and yes for a fact 8 mg klonopin 2 mg 4 times a day they can’t be sued once you get out that’s how they do this who cares the dose though just stop it was 3 / 1/2 years hell so what no one 1️⃣ s crying for me.