From a quality standpoint, only Hilton Club is the best of them, Then Hilton Grand Vacations Club followed by Hilton Vacation Club. HGV Max is just an exchange company that brings them all together to allow owners to reserve at any of the properties.
So Hilton considers Marriot Vacations to be more upscale than Club Wyndham (Travel + Leisure)? Would you agree with this assessment in your experience?
Goodbye to my annual Tuscany Village contract at 20 cents per point, hello Elara at 12 cents per point EOY. We've kept our foot in the door to do Waikiki EOY and do last minute bookings at Elara, two of our favorite locations where Club Wyndham doesn't compare.
Great info. Can definitely use some advice on whether a timeshare would be useful for someone in my situation. Where are the best places to get resale timeshares? Particularly Hilton Grand Vacation Club
I suggest signing up for the TUGBBS (www.tugbbs.com) forums and take a look at the HGVC forum. TUG also has a timeshare marketplace. Redweek.com is also a great place to find resales along with Ebay.
OMG! 😂. My head is spinning. 😂. I haven’t been keeping up with all the crazy stuff Hilton has been coming up with. This is just ridiculous. 🙄. I own a week at Tuscany so I guess I am in the cool kids club. Now that they bought BG my BG unit will be the stepchild. 😅
I'm not sure who made the chart you used...but from my experience, the Hilton Grand Vacation Club (HGVC) is a step up (in my experience) from the Marriott Vacation Club. I'm sure everyone has their own opinion. I haven't stayed at as many resorts as you (most likely), but I've been to around 10 MVCs, and about 8 HGVC - and my experience is that the HGVC are consistently a little more premium (both the room and the resort) than MVC. The one difference that's hard to compare is that HGVC has a few small resorts (Like Kohala Suites in Hawaii) - so they don't have a grand pool or lobby because they are small - but if you like a boutique-type experience, they are still very much upper upscale in amenities and room comfort. (And no crowd at the pool/front desk, etc.) Something that has turned me off (a bit) at MVC compared with HGVC and Hyatt Residence Clubs is that (in my opinion) MVCs have a tendency to be TOO big (and therefore too crowded at the pool, etc.) A great comparison is the MVC in Maui, which has over 700 rooms, compared with the HVC next door, which only has 150 rooms. They both have very nice grounds and pools, but the MVC pools are constantly crowded, and you have to compete for poolside seating, use of grills, and even the open grass areas are full of people on towels, etc. At the HVC next door, there is none of that-there is plenty of seating, plenty of grills, just enough people, enough seating, and much more relaxing. Additionally, at smaller resorts, you tend to see some of the same people around the pool and grounds daily, so you can make friends more easily, etc. (I do realize there are a couple mega HGVC resorts - like Waikiki, and Ocean Tower, etc - but mostly they aren't that big) I've come to appreciate the resorts with HGVC and Hyatt Vacation Club (the former Residence Clubs), which offer MVC-level luxury without the crowds (and the headaches and stress that come with the crowds).
That chart was provided by Hilton Grand Vacations from one of their presentations. As for comparison, it really can vary from resort to resort. We find some HGVC to be nicer and some MVC resorts to be nicer. Comparing any of them to the Hyatt Ka'anapali next door to the Maui Ocean Club really isn't a fair comparison. But in my opinion there are some Hyatt Vacation Club resorts that are on the same level as a Marriott. It is true that Marriott has many much larger resorts. Choice is great and it is why we actually own in multiple systems. Perhaps we will even buy into HGVC some day. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for watching. Unfortunately you can't. It is only available by adding on additional timeshare direct from HGV. That said, if you own HGVC you already own the better of what is available. The HVC are the Diamnond Resort properties. While some of them are nice, many aren't. Most people want to stay at the HGVC resorts. I do mention at the end of this one how to avoid HGV Max and just buy one of the Diamond Collections resale to get access to those properties. Though you need to tread carefully as Diamond Resort collections don't have any resale value. Good because you can get them for free on resale but bad because they are hard to get rid of. I do have a number of HGV Max related videos on the channel. Here is a playlist to them all; th-cam.com/play/PLu2eSHfY1FI_kI36IB9vaSnz1Kw7V4fBB.html
Last call sounds like something through RCI. These are generally discounted resort stays inside of 45 days. They will usually be resorts and locations with lots of supply and not much demand. Think Mexico, Orlando and Las Vegas. Don't count on resorts in Hawaii or the Caribbean or even popular locations in the united states. Did you just purchase timeshare through Hilton Grande Vacations Club and a big selling point was Last Call? If so, Last Call shouldn't be a reason to purchase timeshare. It is more like a bonus. You can also get access to Last Call through RCI by purchasing resale. If you did just purchase, I suggest taking a look at this video about your right to rescind your contract. You can save so much by purchasing resale. th-cam.com/video/bMHnUuQMBQ0/w-d-xo.html
So just to clarify. If I buy a resale HGV deed, I’m basically just buying the points to be able to use at that home property only? Kinda like the old school timeshare system. Or did I misunderstand
If you buy a HGVC deed, you are buying a deeded week that can also be used to make points based reservations within the HGVC system at 9 months out. So it isn't as old school as the legacy timeshare systems used to be many years ago. When buying, you need to be really careful and mindful of what you buy as there are deeded HGVC deeds and also HVC (old Diamond Resorts). You probably want the former, not the latter.
@@DestinationTimeshare thanks for the reply. That’s what I was thinking but then I started confusing it in my head when learning about the other types. So it’s those HGVC points that we can use to make a reservation for whatever properties are in the HGVC system. Not stuck to one location
We’re a family of four that stays at the Kingsland location in Waikaloa for 10 nights every February. We’ve never owned a timeshare. Would you recommend continuing to simply reserve rooms through the Hilton Grand Vacations site…. Or would it make sense to buy a timeshare off of eBay? Currently there’s an auction going for about $1k for a different Hilton waikaloa property (Hilton Bay Club) which would give us $13,440 annual hgvc points. Annual fees are around $2k currently. Does this make sense if we prefer Kingsland? Or would we better off looking to buy a timeshare at Kingsland itself? Or a third option being….. continue to simply book our 10 day annual vacation through the HGV website without dealing with the timeshare investment? Your input would be much appreciated. Thank you.
I would expect if you are renting direct through Hilton you are paying a premium and ownership would definitely be the cheaper option. You are certainly on the right track looking at resale. I don't know enough about the resorts in Waikoloa to give you the best answer here. I suggest checking out Timeshare Users Group (TUG) and their HGVC owner forum. As your question there and you will get a lot of great advice. Let them know I sent you and thanks for watching :) tugbbs.com/forums/forums/hilton-grand-vacations-club-hgvc.52/
Thanks Jeremy for a great explanations of HGV et all. We own a week at HGVC Tuscany in Orlando that we are interested in selling if anyone is interested. Leave me a quick reply. Hope it's okay to post this, if not please remove.
Not a problem at all, though you may get more exposure if you post it in the TUG Marketplace. Which you can do with a $15 paid membership. www.tug2.net. Redweek.com is also a good place to list timeshares for sale, though they charge an membership fee and also a modest listing fee. The important thing to learn is the value of the timeshare. It won't be worth anywhere close to what you paid for it. It may only be worth a few hundred dollars even. Check existing Redweek listings or even Ebay completed listings for the resort to get an idea. On Redweek, the lowest priced listings will be the most accurate value of your timeshare week at Tuscany Village. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for breaking it down!
So Hilton Max, is that the better one? Does it cover all properties from what I'm understanding?
From a quality standpoint, only Hilton Club is the best of them, Then Hilton Grand Vacations Club followed by Hilton Vacation Club. HGV Max is just an exchange company that brings them all together to allow owners to reserve at any of the properties.
So Hilton considers Marriot Vacations to be more upscale than Club Wyndham (Travel + Leisure)? Would you agree with this assessment in your experience?
Yes, Marriott Vacations is certainly more upscale than Club Wyndham.
Goodbye to my annual Tuscany Village contract at 20 cents per point, hello Elara at 12 cents per point EOY. We've kept our foot in the door to do Waikiki EOY and do last minute bookings at Elara, two of our favorite locations where Club Wyndham doesn't compare.
Great info. Can definitely use some advice on whether a timeshare would be useful for someone in my situation. Where are the best places to get resale timeshares? Particularly Hilton Grand Vacation Club
I suggest signing up for the TUGBBS (www.tugbbs.com) forums and take a look at the HGVC forum. TUG also has a timeshare marketplace. Redweek.com is also a great place to find resales along with Ebay.
OMG! 😂. My head is spinning. 😂. I haven’t been keeping up with all the crazy stuff Hilton has been coming up with. This is just ridiculous. 🙄. I own a week at Tuscany so I guess I am in the cool kids club. Now that they bought BG my BG unit will be the stepchild. 😅
I'm not sure who made the chart you used...but from my experience, the Hilton Grand Vacation Club (HGVC) is a step up (in my experience) from the Marriott Vacation Club.
I'm sure everyone has their own opinion. I haven't stayed at as many resorts as you (most likely), but I've been to around 10 MVCs, and about 8 HGVC - and my experience is that the HGVC are consistently a little more premium (both the room and the resort) than MVC. The one difference that's hard to compare is that HGVC has a few small resorts (Like Kohala Suites in Hawaii) - so they don't have a grand pool or lobby because they are small - but if you like a boutique-type experience, they are still very much upper upscale in amenities and room comfort. (And no crowd at the pool/front desk, etc.)
Something that has turned me off (a bit) at MVC compared with HGVC and Hyatt Residence Clubs is that (in my opinion) MVCs have a tendency to be TOO big (and therefore too crowded at the pool, etc.)
A great comparison is the MVC in Maui, which has over 700 rooms, compared with the HVC next door, which only has 150 rooms. They both have very nice grounds and pools, but the MVC pools are constantly crowded, and you have to compete for poolside seating, use of grills, and even the open grass areas are full of people on towels, etc. At the HVC next door, there is none of that-there is plenty of seating, plenty of grills, just enough people, enough seating, and much more relaxing. Additionally, at smaller resorts, you tend to see some of the same people around the pool and grounds daily, so you can make friends more easily, etc. (I do realize there are a couple mega HGVC resorts - like Waikiki, and Ocean Tower, etc - but mostly they aren't that big)
I've come to appreciate the resorts with HGVC and Hyatt Vacation Club (the former Residence Clubs), which offer MVC-level luxury without the crowds (and the headaches and stress that come with the crowds).
That chart was provided by Hilton Grand Vacations from one of their presentations. As for comparison, it really can vary from resort to resort. We find some HGVC to be nicer and some MVC resorts to be nicer. Comparing any of them to the Hyatt Ka'anapali next door to the Maui Ocean Club really isn't a fair comparison. But in my opinion there are some Hyatt Vacation Club resorts that are on the same level as a Marriott. It is true that Marriott has many much larger resorts. Choice is great and it is why we actually own in multiple systems. Perhaps we will even buy into HGVC some day. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for making this video. I realized I own HGVC lol. Can we buy HGV MAX on the resale market?
Thanks for watching. Unfortunately you can't. It is only available by adding on additional timeshare direct from HGV. That said, if you own HGVC you already own the better of what is available. The HVC are the Diamnond Resort properties. While some of them are nice, many aren't. Most people want to stay at the HGVC resorts. I do mention at the end of this one how to avoid HGV Max and just buy one of the Diamond Collections resale to get access to those properties. Though you need to tread carefully as Diamond Resort collections don't have any resale value. Good because you can get them for free on resale but bad because they are hard to get rid of.
I do have a number of HGV Max related videos on the channel. Here is a playlist to them all; th-cam.com/play/PLu2eSHfY1FI_kI36IB9vaSnz1Kw7V4fBB.html
We just signed up and got something called "last call" where if we book less than 90 days out we get a big discount. What's your experience with that?
Last call sounds like something through RCI. These are generally discounted resort stays inside of 45 days. They will usually be resorts and locations with lots of supply and not much demand. Think Mexico, Orlando and Las Vegas. Don't count on resorts in Hawaii or the Caribbean or even popular locations in the united states.
Did you just purchase timeshare through Hilton Grande Vacations Club and a big selling point was Last Call? If so, Last Call shouldn't be a reason to purchase timeshare. It is more like a bonus. You can also get access to Last Call through RCI by purchasing resale. If you did just purchase, I suggest taking a look at this video about your right to rescind your contract. You can save so much by purchasing resale. th-cam.com/video/bMHnUuQMBQ0/w-d-xo.html
So just to clarify. If I buy a resale HGV deed, I’m basically just buying the points to be able to use at that home property only? Kinda like the old school timeshare system. Or did I misunderstand
If you buy a HGVC deed, you are buying a deeded week that can also be used to make points based reservations within the HGVC system at 9 months out. So it isn't as old school as the legacy timeshare systems used to be many years ago. When buying, you need to be really careful and mindful of what you buy as there are deeded HGVC deeds and also HVC (old Diamond Resorts). You probably want the former, not the latter.
@@DestinationTimeshare thanks for the reply. That’s what I was thinking but then I started confusing it in my head when learning about the other types.
So it’s those HGVC points that we can use to make a reservation for whatever properties are in the HGVC system. Not stuck to one location
We’re a family of four that stays at the Kingsland location in Waikaloa for 10 nights every February. We’ve never owned a timeshare. Would you recommend continuing to simply reserve rooms through the Hilton Grand Vacations site…. Or would it make sense to buy a timeshare off of eBay? Currently there’s an auction going for about $1k for a different Hilton waikaloa property (Hilton Bay Club) which would give us $13,440 annual hgvc points. Annual fees are around $2k currently. Does this make sense if we prefer Kingsland? Or would we better off looking to buy a timeshare at Kingsland itself? Or a third option being….. continue to simply book our 10 day annual vacation through the HGV website without dealing with the timeshare investment? Your input would be much appreciated. Thank you.
I would expect if you are renting direct through Hilton you are paying a premium and ownership would definitely be the cheaper option. You are certainly on the right track looking at resale. I don't know enough about the resorts in Waikoloa to give you the best answer here. I suggest checking out Timeshare Users Group (TUG) and their HGVC owner forum. As your question there and you will get a lot of great advice. Let them know I sent you and thanks for watching :)
tugbbs.com/forums/forums/hilton-grand-vacations-club-hgvc.52/
Cool info.
Thanks for watching!
Thanks Jeremy for a great explanations of HGV et all. We own a week at HGVC Tuscany in Orlando that we are interested in selling if anyone is interested. Leave me a quick reply. Hope it's okay to post this, if not please remove.
Not a problem at all, though you may get more exposure if you post it in the TUG Marketplace. Which you can do with a $15 paid membership. www.tug2.net. Redweek.com is also a good place to list timeshares for sale, though they charge an membership fee and also a modest listing fee. The important thing to learn is the value of the timeshare. It won't be worth anywhere close to what you paid for it. It may only be worth a few hundred dollars even. Check existing Redweek listings or even Ebay completed listings for the resort to get an idea. On Redweek, the lowest priced listings will be the most accurate value of your timeshare week at Tuscany Village. Thanks for watching!
wow.. one bedroom or 2 ? how much?🙂
@@pennyarizzio2824 It's a 1 bedroom floating week, 7,680 points a year. First $500 can have it.
Just listed it on EBAY for $350!