I really enjoyed your commentary about the sales experience and how it compares to other timeshare sales presentations. So, thanks for taking the time to share.
Another great video! Thanks. Informative and entertaining. Nice to know the sales people met their match. I’ve been to a few Vistana to find out how I can use my star options for a Marriott property. Four hours later never did figure it out and was exhausted.
I find timeshare presentations to be a poor way to learn how to use the systems. The best way is join Facebook Groups, read the forums on TUGBBS or watch TH-cam. Thanks for watching!
Many of the salesmen seem to know very little about how to use the points. They're a lot more interested in telling you about breaking their arm in the military, their 100-year-old grandma who loved to travel, etc.
@@melissapeters7441 Most people selling timeshares don't own the product - at least from my experience doing owner updates and sales presentations over the years. A lot do but many don't.
@@DestinationTimeshare yes. I had sent my hand written simple letter forgotten to send a second 1 by email and I sent that tablet back and kept the small backpack they put my tablet and referel booklet. I hope to get my funds back and be done with this unwanted decision I made on my birthday. Smh🤦♀️
I worked at Westgate Las Vegas timeshare sales. I was trained recently for two weeks. I'm a Navy veteran. They disrespected me and fire me on veterans day. Can you believe that? Im still unemployed...
I remember someone on TH-cam complaining about their timeshare presentation where they were bussed out more than 20 miles away to a facility out in the middle of nowhere. In the wilderness with no traffic and at a single large building just for the timeshare presentation. The person said they did not even have a cell phone signal to call an Uber or Lyft. That is a situation where you are really stuck and at the mercy of the timeshare company. That would really be messed up.
We are Westgate owners and lucky to get a great salesperson. We have one in Orlando. The owner referral program can pay for the timeshare itself if you’re serious about it. That’s what attracted me, being able to make money. We have gone to other timeshare presentations and declined.
Hi, I just bought a week, not even 10 days ago and according to the contract I can cancel before 10 days. They say so many things and write so many scribbles on a piece of paper that it's confusing, I'd like to know your experience.
I also own there, may I ask what floorplan you have and how much you closed it for? I feel like we got seriously lucky with our "wait don't leave" offer. I'm happy to share if you are!
We LOVE sales presentations or "Owner Updates". The reward must be a bunch of points (Wyndham or Hyatt), or $200 Visa/MC/Amex card. We collect our freebies after they determine we are in no way in their target demographic. Just like Jeremy, we tend to know more than the salesman and the manager combined. LOL!!! One of our favorite presentations is when the salesperson is newish and does not listen to what we say. So the salesperson beats their head against the wall as we have a comeback for anything they try. Enjoy the experience and get your freebies!! Also remember...resales are your best friend in timeshares.
The reason they publicly announce someone just purchased a timeshare and then clap is to display what's known as social proof. It's a sales tactic to instill confidence on others not sure about purchasing. Everything that you experience and visually see are all sales tactics. Even the wall of pictures is to display more social proof and have celebrity status. I've studied timeshare sales for some time and will say I'm fascinated with the sales techniques and psychology behind it all. Although I have no intentions of purchasing a timeshare contract. Someone down thread mentioned about being exhausted after a sales presentation, yes, that's another sales tactic to grind you down as they tag team, again it's part of the sales techniques as they rotate sales reps. Exploding offers are also very common, it's a hardball tactic. An exploding offer uses urgency, a demand and a punishment if not accepted, all in one. That's why they almost always have "buy now or this offer is gone". Looking forward to future videos on the presentation techniques they use. I'll write you more on the strategies if you're interested.
One timeshare presentation about 8 years ago in Las Vegas, and was told that my timeshare would 10X in one year due to the Elvis exhibits on property. I may have mentioned this before, but I had a 2nd job working for a dying retail company that had been acquired for the purpose of dumping junk overstock into, and benefiting off the bankruptcy. He attached an Elvis store and museum under this throwaway corporation, in a partnership between Westgate and the Elvis estate. It quickly came apart with Westgate locking everything down, and the Elvis estate filing suit for their stuff back. It's funny because my friend helped set all that up, even drove one of Elvis' cars onto the showroom. I knew everything was about to go up in smoke, but I was told that this temporarily gimmick would make me rich buying Westgate!
We took a Westgate timeshare your way back in 2000. As I recall, it was a lot like your experience, so not a lot of changes. We went for the theme park discount tickets offered at the time, so we actually had to pay to get out of the presentation as they had us buy the tickets from them. Shelley has little tolerance for the tours, so we rarely go on them, although we did three last year because the offers were to good to pass up. Throw enough money at me and I’ll give you 60 minutes.
I always use these prepaid cards for gas. Once the balance gets too low, spend the rest at Walmart. Usually their system can ascertain the exact balance to zero it out.
We did a time share presentation as we were bored broke at the time. They were offering a four-place dinnerware set, so we went. I should mention that we had two small kids at the time who were a bit overactive. The presentation didn't last long as the guy quickly realized that we weren't by anything.
Thanks for sharing. We were scheduled to go to one tomorrow @ WG Vacation Villas. We also received the paper under the door. Going to cancel after watching this..not worth it 😂
Thanks for another great video! You’ve really helped to get the most out of my ownership. Do you know if II Getaways at Westgate Resorts in Orlando are subject to resort fees or any other fees?
You may want to watch this past video I made where I talked about our experience and fees. th-cam.com/video/d1fyQXSD8aY/w-d-xo.html We didn't pay any resort or other fees for our stays booked through II getaways.
Ugh... i wish i had seen this before!! We went in at 10 and didn't leave until 2:45pm! We did get tickets to sea world and bush gardens for 268. (Would have been 900ish for them. More than 600 savings) It was for me and my 4 kiddos. I was regretting attending😭 I also took advantage of a discounted vacation... 7 nights. Does that mean they will try again???
As least you made it out relatively unscathed and didn't buy a timeshare. If you bought a discounted vacation, you will very likely be required to attend another presentation when you go on that trip.
I just went on Saturday I was given $125 on the card my $40 back in cash, free uber (which in needed at the time to go to a concert right after the timeshare was finished) and the 2 night 3 day stay
Me and my wife just left Vegas last week and got the same exact $125 card, $40 cash back and the free uber ride to and from. We said no, but did take advantage of the 5 day 4 night stay there, or at another one of their locations. We do know they want us to come back to try us again. But…..we’re going to keep saying no 😂
20 years ago it was a total nightmare everything you mentioned was the same as it was back then nothings changed with west gate. Talk about triggering bad memories
Would be interesting to go into a presentation looking like a total rube. Wear one of those beanie propeller hats and tell the salesman that you just inherited $10,000,000 from your great aunt and don't know what to do with it.
I was just about to say before I watched the whole thing, my wife and I had to sign that form the last time we went because were a little too knowledgeable about what they were up to.
The one in Orlando gave us $150 cash and that VLT certificate. They tend to get a little rude at rhe end when you deny that last offer for the promo stay😂. The salesperson will lie to you about everything. Everything from their million dollar club rings its all to get you excited about purchasing. DO NOT BUY YOULL REGRET IT.
Uhhh.... no. People who have the means to utilize timeshare enjoy the benefits over the long term. People who take out a 70k mortgage and pay 19% interest should, yes, not buy them.
I have been to a few presentations and they seem to get more aggressive. I have ownership with Marriott and was wondering where I might fine your video on why you bank your points with II. Thanks.
Thanks for watching! I don't think I have a specific video about exchanging MVC Club Points through Interval International. I do cover this in my MVC Made Easy course but Interval International does also have a guide related to this; www.intervalworld.com/iimedia/pdf/points_exchange_reference_guide_m.pdf
I am not an attorney, so there isn't anyway I can help. If you have an outstanding mortgage on the timeshare, it can't be sold or given away. You may be able to deed it back to Westgate if it is paid in full, but they do charge a large fee to do this. The biggest piece of advice is to not pay someone who promises to get you out (timeshare exit company). They will take your money and do what you can do for free. They will tell you to stop corresponding with the timeshare company and stop making payments. Sending all correspondence to them. Then they will just have you default and the timeshare company will foreclose. You can do that yourself for free. Timeshare can be a great way to travel and save a lot of money doing it. Your week should be able to get you about 19 nights in timeshare units by utilizing Interval International. The worst timeshare is a timeshare that doesn't get used. I suggest looking up some Facebook Groups for Westgate owners to get some additional advice on how to use it.
I don't know what the breakfast looks like, but I doubt I would have eaten it either. Juice and prepackaged snack is always a safe bet. Thanks for watching.
I advise anyone in the future never to buy a timeshare whatsoever. If you want that amenities, it would be best for you to go on these different websites to be able to basically purchase the timeshare from someone that already has one that’s trying to get rid of it or find out if someone’s trying to rent their time share so that therefore they could be able to try to recruit some of their money Back for actually paying the full timeshare versus you pay a hotel price a timeshare owner unfortunately at this moment with Westgate and if anyone is looking to wanna buy my timeshare, you’re more than welcome to buy buy it and I will turn the deed over to you transferring everything thing you have to do is basically pay the maintenance fee and the tax on it that’s it plus you get 1500 bonus points included on different website and see if
We do more laughing and talking when we do ours with Westgate. We don't get the narcissistic or cult vibe from none of the sales presentations that we have been to. Once the reps find out that we are knowledgable owners, we finish up the update and they let us go on our way.... We have fun meeting the salespeople if we decide to do the updates #proudWGownerHere
"Knowledgable owners" is an oxymoron. You spelled knowledgeable incorrectly & used a double negative, so I kind of see why you're proud to own a Westgate timeshare.
That was in addition to the gift card. I suspect the coupon is something that the restaurant gives them for free to get people in the door. So it didn't even cost Westgate anything. Even with the gifts, it isn't worth the time and effort.
@@DestinationTimeshare Not all timeshare presentations are that much of a rip. I went to one that was no more than the stated ninety minutes for $250 in cash. But that's only because I'm not one to be pushed around. When the ninety minutes had elapsed, I got up and politely walked to the cash register for my money and then left. I also politely told the closer that I wouldn't buy a timeshare if they tortured me. When I made it that clear, they didn't even try to sell me on the scam any longer.
Don't waste your time going to these presentations. You never know, and could be tricked into signing. Timeshares are the worst investments, just get an Airbnb for a week anywhere in the world or to the same city if you wish, but you are not stuck with fees.
I have heard other youtubers say they never signed anything, but ended up with lines of credit anyway. And another who thought he signed an attendance sheet but ended up signing unfortunately a timeshare. Don't know how legit these claims are, but won't put these tactics above some of these salespeople.
@@xxxxxxxxx3944I find those claims very suspicious. I know someone who owns a timeshare, and have heard from others who have bought timeshares saying that you sign a mountain of paperwork when you buy a timeshare, so claiming they signed a paper labeled an “attendance sheet” but somehow signed a whole timeshare contract doesn’t add up, neither does having lines of credit opened without them signing anything.
My friends and I made a new game. Everyone got a beer or drink of choice and had to take a swig every time you say "kinda". Every 5 times you say "kinda", we all had to do a shot of tequila and chase it with our drink. At around six minutes in, two people had already puked.
“Why are you here?”
“For some good content for my TH-cam channel”
That was gold! 🤣😂🤣
I really enjoyed your commentary about the sales experience and how it compares to other timeshare sales presentations. So, thanks for taking the time to share.
Another great video! Thanks. Informative and entertaining. Nice to know the sales people met their match. I’ve been to a few Vistana to find out how I can use my star options for a Marriott property. Four hours later never did figure it out and was exhausted.
I find timeshare presentations to be a poor way to learn how to use the systems. The best way is join Facebook Groups, read the forums on TUGBBS or watch TH-cam. Thanks for watching!
Don't go to sales presentations unless you want to be sold to.
Many of the salesmen seem to know very little about how to use the points. They're a lot more interested in telling you about breaking their arm in the military, their 100-year-old grandma who loved to travel, etc.
@@melissapeters7441 Most people selling timeshares don't own the product - at least from my experience doing owner updates and sales presentations over the years. A lot do but many don't.
Your so right on point😊😊
Another excellent video Jeremy. Well done.
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for stopping by to check it out!
This video is spot on. I'm just waiting on my money-back plus my free gift card 😢
So did you rescind/cancel your purchase?
@@DestinationTimeshare yes. I had sent my hand written simple letter forgotten to send a second 1 by email and I sent that tablet back and kept the small backpack they put my tablet and referel booklet. I hope to get my funds back and be done with this unwanted decision I made on my birthday. Smh🤦♀️
I worked at Westgate Las Vegas timeshare sales. I was trained recently for two weeks. I'm a Navy veteran. They disrespected me and fire me on veterans day. Can you believe that? Im still unemployed...
I remember someone on TH-cam complaining about their timeshare presentation where they were bussed out more than 20 miles away to a facility out in the middle of nowhere. In the wilderness with no traffic and at a single large building just for the timeshare presentation. The person said they did not even have a cell phone signal to call an Uber or Lyft. That is a situation where you are really stuck and at the mercy of the timeshare company. That would really be messed up.
Hahaha like the moonies or Jonestown, Scientology or similar cult
We are Westgate owners and lucky to get a great salesperson. We have one in Orlando. The owner referral program can pay for the timeshare itself if you’re serious about it. That’s what attracted me, being able to make money. We have gone to other timeshare presentations and declined.
Hi, I just bought a week, not even 10 days ago and according to the contract I can cancel before 10 days. They say so many things and write so many scribbles on a piece of paper that it's confusing, I'd like to know your experience.
@@yuniorm4690I hope you canceled it in time.
I also own there, may I ask what floorplan you have and how much you closed it for? I feel like we got seriously lucky with our "wait don't leave" offer. I'm happy to share if you are!
We LOVE sales presentations or "Owner Updates". The reward must be a bunch of points (Wyndham or Hyatt), or $200 Visa/MC/Amex card. We collect our freebies after they determine we are in no way in their target demographic. Just like Jeremy, we tend to know more than the salesman and the manager combined. LOL!!! One of our favorite presentations is when the salesperson is newish and does not listen to what we say. So the salesperson beats their head against the wall as we have a comeback for anything they try. Enjoy the experience and get your freebies!! Also remember...resales are your best friend in timeshares.
The reason they publicly announce someone just purchased a timeshare and then clap is to display what's known as social proof. It's a sales tactic to instill confidence on others not sure about purchasing. Everything that you experience and visually see are all sales tactics. Even the wall of pictures is to display more social proof and have celebrity status.
I've studied timeshare sales for some time and will say I'm fascinated with the sales techniques and psychology behind it all. Although I have no intentions of purchasing a timeshare contract.
Someone down thread mentioned about being exhausted after a sales presentation, yes, that's another sales tactic to grind you down as they tag team, again it's part of the sales techniques as they rotate sales reps. Exploding offers are also very common, it's a hardball tactic. An exploding offer uses urgency, a demand and a punishment if not accepted, all in one. That's why they almost always have "buy now or this offer is gone".
Looking forward to future videos on the presentation techniques they use. I'll write you more on the strategies if you're interested.
Thanks for another great video.
Thanks for watching!
One timeshare presentation about 8 years ago in Las Vegas, and was told that my timeshare would 10X in one year due to the Elvis exhibits on property. I may have mentioned this before, but I had a 2nd job working for a dying retail company that had been acquired for the purpose of dumping junk overstock into, and benefiting off the bankruptcy. He attached an Elvis store and museum under this throwaway corporation, in a partnership between Westgate and the Elvis estate. It quickly came apart with Westgate locking everything down, and the Elvis estate filing suit for their stuff back. It's funny because my friend helped set all that up, even drove one of Elvis' cars onto the showroom. I knew everything was about to go up in smoke, but I was told that this temporarily gimmick would make me rich buying Westgate!
I use those types of gift cards to make a one time payment on a bill, phone, electric etc
We took a Westgate timeshare your way back in 2000. As I recall, it was a lot like your experience, so not a lot of changes. We went for the theme park discount tickets offered at the time, so we actually had to pay to get out of the presentation as they had us buy the tickets from them.
Shelley has little tolerance for the tours, so we rarely go on them, although we did three last year because the offers were to good to pass up. Throw enough money at me and I’ll give you 60 minutes.
😂 Glad you went so we don’t have to!
I always use these prepaid cards for gas. Once the balance gets too low, spend the rest at Walmart. Usually their system can ascertain the exact balance to zero it out.
we bought our firstshare from David He was very nice
We did a time share presentation as we were bored broke at the time. They were offering a four-place dinnerware set, so we went. I should mention that we had two small kids at the time who were a bit overactive. The presentation didn't last long as the guy quickly realized that we weren't by anything.
Thanks for sharing. We were scheduled to go to one tomorrow @ WG Vacation Villas. We also received the paper under the door. Going to cancel after watching this..not worth it 😂
Thanks for another great video! You’ve really helped to get the most out of my ownership.
Do you know if II Getaways at Westgate Resorts in Orlando are subject to resort fees or any other fees?
You may want to watch this past video I made where I talked about our experience and fees. th-cam.com/video/d1fyQXSD8aY/w-d-xo.html
We didn't pay any resort or other fees for our stays booked through II getaways.
Ugh... i wish i had seen this before!! We went in at 10 and didn't leave until 2:45pm! We did get tickets to sea world and bush gardens for 268. (Would have been 900ish for them. More than 600 savings) It was for me and my 4 kiddos. I was regretting attending😭 I also took advantage of a discounted vacation... 7 nights. Does that mean they will try again???
As least you made it out relatively unscathed and didn't buy a timeshare. If you bought a discounted vacation, you will very likely be required to attend another presentation when you go on that trip.
I just went on Saturday I was given $125 on the card my $40 back in cash, free uber (which in needed at the time to go to a concert right after the timeshare was finished) and the 2 night 3 day stay
Sounds like a pretty good deal, as long as you said no to buying one of their timeshares.
Me and my wife just left Vegas last week and got the same exact $125 card, $40 cash back and the free uber ride to and from. We said no, but did take advantage of the 5 day 4 night stay there, or at another one of their locations. We do know they want us to come back to try us again. But…..we’re going to keep saying no 😂
20 years ago it was a total nightmare everything you mentioned was the same as it was back then nothings changed with west gate. Talk about triggering bad memories
At least we know they are consistent🤣. Perhaps I should have posted a trigger warning prior to the video. Thanks for watching!
@@DestinationTimeshare Lol you keep telling the community about time shares good or bad
Would be interesting to go into a presentation looking like a total rube. Wear one of those beanie propeller hats and tell the salesman that you just inherited $10,000,000 from your great aunt and don't know what to do with it.
Wish I could have found your show 5 yes ago
I was just about to say before I watched the whole thing, my wife and I had to sign that form the last time we went because were a little too knowledgeable about what they were up to.
I'm not really sure why I even agreed to sign it. I should have told them they can put me on whatever list they want but I won't sign anything.
What date did you do the presentation on? I work there and like to see who your salesman was
How do you live with yourself?
Do many on the TUG forums own Westgate?
There aren't many Westgate regulars over on TUG. Not sure why. There are a couple of Facebook groups out there for Westgate owners.
The one in Orlando gave us $150 cash and that VLT certificate. They tend to get a little rude at rhe end when you deny that last offer for the promo stay😂. The salesperson will lie to you about everything. Everything from their million dollar club rings its all to get you excited about purchasing. DO NOT BUY YOULL REGRET IT.
Uhhh.... no. People who have the means to utilize timeshare enjoy the benefits over the long term. People who take out a 70k mortgage and pay 19% interest should, yes, not buy them.
I have been to a few presentations and they seem to get more aggressive. I have ownership with Marriott and was wondering where I might fine your video on why you bank your points with II. Thanks.
Thanks for watching! I don't think I have a specific video about exchanging MVC Club Points through Interval International. I do cover this in my MVC Made Easy course but Interval International does also have a guide related to this; www.intervalworld.com/iimedia/pdf/points_exchange_reference_guide_m.pdf
I’m make this mistake 4 months ago when i was in Orlando i buy one timeshare so how you can help me out of my?
I am not an attorney, so there isn't anyway I can help. If you have an outstanding mortgage on the timeshare, it can't be sold or given away. You may be able to deed it back to Westgate if it is paid in full, but they do charge a large fee to do this. The biggest piece of advice is to not pay someone who promises to get you out (timeshare exit company). They will take your money and do what you can do for free. They will tell you to stop corresponding with the timeshare company and stop making payments. Sending all correspondence to them. Then they will just have you default and the timeshare company will foreclose. You can do that yourself for free.
Timeshare can be a great way to travel and save a lot of money doing it. Your week should be able to get you about 19 nights in timeshare units by utilizing Interval International. The worst timeshare is a timeshare that doesn't get used. I suggest looking up some Facebook Groups for Westgate owners to get some additional advice on how to use it.
I went and.........I got 1 bottles of juice and chips. maybe it was for the best.
I don't know what the breakfast looks like, but I doubt I would have eaten it either. Juice and prepackaged snack is always a safe bet. Thanks for watching.
I advise anyone in the future never to buy a timeshare whatsoever. If you want that amenities, it would be best for you to go on these different websites to be able to basically purchase the timeshare from someone that already has one that’s trying to get rid of it or find out if someone’s trying to rent their time share so that therefore they could be able to try to recruit some of their money Back for actually paying the full timeshare versus you pay a hotel price a timeshare owner unfortunately at this moment with Westgate and if anyone is looking to wanna buy my timeshare, you’re more than welcome to buy buy it and I will turn the deed over to you transferring everything thing you have to do is basically pay the maintenance fee and the tax on it that’s it plus you get 1500 bonus points included on different website and see if
We do more laughing and talking when we do ours with Westgate. We don't get the narcissistic or cult vibe from none of the sales presentations that we have been to. Once the reps find out that we are knowledgable owners, we finish up the update and they let us go on our way.... We have fun meeting the salespeople if we decide to do the updates #proudWGownerHere
"Knowledgable owners" is an oxymoron. You spelled knowledgeable incorrectly & used a double negative, so I kind of see why you're proud to own a Westgate timeshare.
A $10 off coupon? WOW! That's so lame.
That was in addition to the gift card. I suspect the coupon is something that the restaurant gives them for free to get people in the door. So it didn't even cost Westgate anything. Even with the gifts, it isn't worth the time and effort.
@@DestinationTimeshare Not all timeshare presentations are that much of a rip. I went to one that was no more than the stated ninety minutes for $250 in cash. But that's only because I'm not one to be pushed around. When the ninety minutes had elapsed, I got up and politely walked to the cash register for my money and then left. I also politely told the closer that I wouldn't buy a timeshare if they tortured me. When I made it that clear, they didn't even try to sell me on the scam any longer.
Don't waste your time going to these presentations. You never know, and could be tricked into signing. Timeshares are the worst investments, just get an Airbnb for a week anywhere in the world or to the same city if you wish, but you are not stuck with fees.
I have heard other youtubers say they never signed anything, but ended up with lines of credit anyway. And another who thought he signed an attendance sheet but ended up signing unfortunately a timeshare. Don't know how legit these claims are, but won't put these tactics above some of these salespeople.
@@xxxxxxxxx3944I find those claims very suspicious. I know someone who owns a timeshare, and have heard from others who have bought timeshares saying that you sign a mountain of paperwork when you buy a timeshare, so claiming they signed a paper labeled an “attendance sheet” but somehow signed a whole timeshare contract doesn’t add up, neither does having lines of credit opened without them signing anything.
My friends and I made a new game. Everyone got a beer or drink of choice and had to take a swig every time you say "kinda". Every 5 times you say "kinda", we all had to do a shot of tequila and chase it with our drink.
At around six minutes in, two people had already puked.
@@AnimationByDylan Your opinion has been noted, and thrown in the garbage.
Your friends must be lightweights when it comes to alcohol?
@@DestinationTimeshare I think the problem was more their drinks to chase the tequila. Wine coolers and rye/coke are poor choices.