Huge Smart Home Drama
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- Chamberlain and MyQ have been rug pulling their customers over the last couple of weeks, with an announcement that they were cutting of API access to all of their users, forcing all of those users to use the MyQ app and suffer a much worse experience. Let's talk about the situation and what you can do in the future to make sure this never happens in your smart home again.
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As one of the 20,000 who experienced this first hand I can sum up the experience. I went from being excited that chamberlin built in this functionality out of the box to appreciating the community for fixing the MyQ integration(multiple times) to viewing Chamberlin as a villian for shutting down 0.2% of their user base who just want to use the hardware they bought to make their lifes easier.
Smart builders don't use Chamberlain anymore 😊
New tagline from any other vendor
This is one way to kill of your company, smart is where where headed and if they're forcing us to swit u vendors or used a different solution, eventually their market of garage opener will dwindle. I mean all twhu have is garage opener.....
@@JeffGeerling What we really need is for someone to develop a raspberry pi powered garage door motor. Any takers? Jeff? ;P
@@unfaix You know...they added speakers to the openers under the guise of beeping them before the door starts closing via remote control. I can't wait until they get audio ads working. That way we can get targeted ads yelled at us when we start/end our commutes.
A better option is to use a dumb opener like the Genii. You can open/close the door with a simple relay, use a magnetic switch connected to a gpio to sense open/closed, and use frigate with an IP camera of your choice. All very easy to implement with an ESP32 and ESPHOME.@@embeddedtech
Yup, local solutions all the way. Anything requiring cloud can always be taken away from us at anytime by corporations.
The worst feeling ever when you find a new smart home device that nails everything, only to find out it's cloud only 🥹
@@EverythingSmartHome I am wait listed in ratgdo
@@EverythingSmartHome It's not 'the cloud', it's somebody else's computer...
@@EverythingSmartHome mostly everything on aliexpress seems to be cloud only, but then it has a local api.
except for tuya. those things are great but i don't like the company behind
Yeah, you think that until you have a local system taken away from you too! I have enphase solar and connected to their local api. One day they blasted out a firmware update which got rid of local auth so now their local api uses the cloud to auth. Also no way to roll back. Support were not helpful and based on their forums they seem to be just hoping this will go away.
In the Netherlands, smart utility meters are required to have a local interface to which you can connect. The protocol even needs to be implemented according to a standard. It would be so nice to have this requirement for all smart home appliances in the EU. Especially since the energy grid is changing and we need more interoperability to unfuck this.
The USB C of iOT 👍
We can dream 😅
I wish UK did similar with the smart meters as they already have ZigBee in the meter units. The in home displays could expose an API/MQTT endpoint to scrape data from since they're connected to WiFi anyways.
I have a useless IHD that was provided by my previous supplier and whilst it still works and sits on WiFi, it doesn't submit anything to the cloud because the provider (Bulb) went bust. The manufacturer Chameleon wants me to buy the same exact thing again with a different firmware to rely on their cloud service to pool for current readings...
Luckily, Octopus provided me with the free mini bridge which connects my meter into their platform for nearly live readings.
@@mateuszdrab it's actually a European law, I know all meter were replaced in France and in Germany they need to be smart for the last 10 years or so on new construction.
It's very convenient, hope they'll do the same with water meter and I'll be all set 😅
@@tiloalo oh well, probably won't apply here after Brexit 😅 Water meter is an interesting concept, but honestly I don't care much (at all tbh) about having live water use readings. Electricity is the only one I really care about 🤓
Lesson: don't EVER use anything that needs cloud to work. It will always backfire.
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What's the alternative to Alexa and Google home though that's workable. Home Assistants local voice control isn't quite there yet.
@@KrispKiwi there's a tutorial on this channel to allow Google Home to call Home Assistant's API
@@KrispKiwiLocal LLMs + Local Whisper could be used to control HA *today*. Not sure if anyone has built a solid solution that’s available to everyone, but the tech is all on the table.
@@KrispKiwi There isn't a nice alternative at the moment for voice assistants. But a well automated home shouldn't be dependent on a voice assistant. I think it was Smart Home Solver who said "Anytime I have to use my voice or touch a switch, I feel like I've failed." While I think that is a bit of hyperbole, I do think the voice assistant is a nice add on not a essential feature. That said, after we moved it took a while to find unpack and set up our google devices. We'd find ourselves says, "Okay, google, what time is it?" Or "Okay, google, how long does it take to get to...." because it was second nature, and while it isn't a big deal to go pick up our phone from the other room or whatever -- it did make my family more aware of how much they've come to depend on things I pushed for.
Fantastic video, we need more from online influencers calling out companies like this for their bad behaviours. Well done.
Just doing my bit to name and shame, doubt it will make any difference to them but at least I tried!
Don't underestimate the power of your videos. Sometimes it's just the first drop of water, followed by a big storm coming. Greetings from Germany :)
Before MyQ or anything like that was around, I used a momentary relay and a Zigbee switch. It has been flawless and it is totally local.
I use opengarageio myself. Local control for home assistant if thats your thing.
MyQ devices do not support momentary grounding like old garage doors. Instead, MyQ uses a serial bus. What is funny is that in this age or Arduino, MyQ did not encrypt the protocol. This is how ratgdo reverse engineered the protocol. After this decision, the protocol will be open source published in days.
@@joblackthorne knowing them, they'll try to sue whoever publishes the protocol
I just took the board out of a rf remote and soldered a home assistant relay to the button contacts. The remote was powered by a single 3v 2032 battery, so the 3.3v supplied from the esp32 powers the board, no battery is needed. I added a magnetic reed switch to the garage door to tell me when the door is open through home assistant, with notifications to my phone and smartwatch. I happen to have a Genie opener, but the principle is the same. Serial bus problem solved, isolated, so no voltage problems.
@@justinonimus2916we do the same thing... But use Lutron io module
I've hooked OpenGarage to the push to operate contacts on two garages. They have ultrasonic distance sensors so mounted to the ceiling can tell if there's a vehicle present and, for up and over doors, if the door is open or closed. The newer model has a second set of contacts for a wired door position sensor which I used for my roller door where the distance sensor can't see the door.
HA integration works great and the board / case is well built around an ESP 8266 so simple to connect over WiFi.
It would be really nice to get a good summerisation video on local/open source alternatives to the common smart devices. (blinds speakers, doorbell, lights etc) for anyone that wants to get more involved as its a real minefield out there
I installed my RATGDO last weekend and it is amazing. So happy to be off the MyQ cloud. Better functionality with RATGDO than I had with MyQ and so easy to integrate into Home Assistant. Plus, it gets rid of the beeping when closing the garage door remotely!
Yep. This royally screwed my garage door automations over. I ordered a couple ratgdo units a few weeks ago which were just delivered yesterday. I can't wait to get them installed!
Nice, enjoy the Ratgdo!
Just got mine yesterday too!
I just got my ratgdo up and running a few days ago. Being able to open the garage door to a set position has been awesome. Added “open/close garage a little/lotta bit” commands to Alexa
Someone really needs to tell Chamberlin about API key and rate limits...
It’s an excuse. Any half-way competent engineer building an infrastructure capable of supporting 10 million users should have already built in safeguards - if only to protect themselves from DDOS attacks. Which they just invited, BTW.
If they had a clue, they would be handing out API keys along with an ‘acceptable use’ document, and disable any API user that falls outside those parameters. No, they want more recurring revenue, whether it’s through licensing fees and advertising to a captive audience. Trouble is, their products are basic and low-turnover. There shouldn’t be a lot of user interaction for use of the basic functions of an appliance. Rather than looking for adjacent product markets and expanding into them, they’re attempting to squeeze their installed base without adding any value.
Garage lighting is an obvious one, anti-theft addons is another (theft of tools and bikes from an open garage is a big problem, for example). Even a dumb mechanical ‘package drop’ product would make more sense than MyQ/Amazon Key.
Shhhh ... They need to bump traffic to their app so they can sell more ads.
The Rug pull really really sucks. I can't stand losing functionality I used to always have. I totally plan on voting with my wallet, but the problem in this case is that for both residential and commercial applications Chamberlain/Liftmaster are the makers of the vast majority of garage and gate openers in the United States. The other options that exist tend to be vastly inferior brands that tend to break over a relatively short period of time. I went the route of purchasing the Ratgdo and will power down my MyQ as soon as it comes in.
Indeed, it's like I mentioned in the video, they pretty much have a monopoly and they know it
I'm glad you wrote this, I thought he said rug pilled and I was really confused
I hope some people don't just vote with their wallets, but with their lawyers! You were robbed.
@@StephenMatrese This, exactly. Time for a class action lawsuit. They put the API and integrations in their sales material, then pulled that functionality after the devices were purchased and installed. Bait and switch. Tons of companies have been sued into bankruptcy for similar. Couldn't happen to a better company.
As one of those myq users, I've been aiming to switch as much to local-only control for a while now, and kept putting off the garage door since for the last while, the myq integration has actually been pretty good for me. So this incident gave me the "opportunity" to switch to something local for it as well. And the ratgdo was very easy to install and gives me more features than before, as you can control the lights, lock remotes, and open the garage door to a specific position in addition to opening/closing.
I too had little problem with the integration until this. I just got my ratgdo in the mail yesterday. Not sure if I'll have the time to install before the weekend, but its a high priority at this point as I had come to rely on that integration more than I realized!
Lewis, Thanks for the video. I was banging my head on this dying on me. I grabbed the Meross unit and install in about 5 minutes. I made sure to update the Meross HACS integration and it works perfectly!! My wife is happy now! 😎
6:21 I found it Hilarious that when you said Ads, a youtube ad played
To throw my 2 cents in, ive been thinking about adding MyQ to my homeassistant green (as soon as it arrives from EST store), but clearly cant do that now. Ive been Advocating for local control in my household and now only buy devices that dont require the cloud. I really hope the community project to locally control garage doors takes off.
Haha totally coincidence I swear 👀
Greens start shipping today btw!
@@EverythingSmartHome fantastic to hear. I started out by running it on my nas, but its just not powerful enough and constantly crashing. I was happy once the HA team added network storage to the software. Now with the MyQ issue gone, my next task is to add something similar to your morning announcment, but with a little of my own flair. I cant quite figure out the code though
Edit: quite literally just found the article on your website. Thank you for that
Thanks for this video. I have been unhappy with MyQ from the outset, but as you say they have virtually a monopoly on openers in the US. I took this opportunity to learn a bit about hardware and came up with my own solution. There is a device called the Aqara Dual Relay Module T2. You can use it to trigger electrical pulses. Because my garage door is newer, I couldn’t just wire it into the opener, so instead I took a backup remote I had laying around and soldered 2 wires from the T2 to the switch on the circuit board inside the remote. It works perfectly. Also, since the T2 has 2 channels, I was able to get a very cheap sensor and wire it into the second channel to report back whether the garage is open or closed. I was able to integrate it into Home Assistant very easily to run all my automations. The whole setup works fantastic and was a very inexpensive and reliable solution! I couldn’t be happier being able to completely remove everything having to do with MyQ from my setup.
That’s nice and simple solution for the problem. I hope that the ratgdo and other similar hacks like yours will gain the attention of the users enough that they wont have many paying customers going forward.
It really grinds my gears when manufacturers make selfish decisions like these to block even that ”0,2%” of the customer base. I actully wish it is a lot bigger amount than that or it grows with announcements like these.
The market is open now for the taking of locally controlled options. Lets see if they catch on popularity among new buyers or users will have to solder remotes again after 10-20 years when the companies deside that they don’t want to support their crappy cloud any more. 😄
As a home integrator I can tell you it even worse then just shutting down the API. The latest Charberlain doors use a proprietary wireless (maybe blluetooth who knows) standard to talk to the door. The 2 wires provide the power to the button. Contact closure what used to open and close the door doesn't work anymore. Even soldering contact closure on the buttons directly for the smart ones under us creates conditions the door will open on it self randomly. So if you want to integrate your garage door into a 3rd party don't buy MyQ from Chamberlain and the other brands they sell .
Making my own garage door integration was my very first HA project. Using ESPHome, I have opened/closed/moving functionality as well as a parking sensor. I can open and close remotely and get a notification that the door isn't closed if I leave home and don't close it. Garage temp/humidity is displayed and a sensor tells me if there is movement in the garage. I didn't use MyQ because of the reasons stated in this vid. With today's power of HA, there are very few cloud based solutions needed. Just make your own. That's the reason we do this crazy thing, right?
local all the way. got a new home years ago, it came with a myq garage opener. i thought about using it, but ultimately decided to just use a relay and team that with a tilt sensor to monitor my garage door. has been working solid for years. it may not be the most optimal way, but it works
Sounds like you made a great decision!
I had been locked out of MyQ through everything but my alarm account, so I dodged this bullet. That said, these companies are just asking for someone to come around with a local API. Everything should have a local option. At least Weatherflow still gets it.
I went with the Meross with Home Kit option. The Meross solution works so much better than the MyQ/Chamberlain hardware.
I have an older garage door opener with only a push button on 5V.
I've connected a esp8266 and a reed sensor. I control the door with Home Assistant and esp home. Works like a charm 😁
I just bought a new Chamberlain door opener this year because it was built in to the opener and worked with Home Assistant, like my previous MyQ hub. Spending a little more now with the ratgdo device after seeing this news last week, although I'm on the backordered list. I might look into meross though. Thanks for the video!
Thanks for this video. I am one of those MyQ user's. I have been looking around for other options. I was controlling my garage door and my sisters doors through Home Assistant and had automation set up for both doors in HA. So my dream now would be able to have local control for my door and also some kind of local control for my sisters door, she does not have HA. I have been thinking of using some type of ESP device with port forwarding into my sisters garage door. This way it would not depend on any companies cloud service.
One of my previous gripes with the MyQ integration was that you could not, as a regular user, bypass the lights and sirens when using it to close the door even if you were on the same local network. I was told that it was impossible to bypass however the Amazon Key service is able to shut the door without the lights and sirens so that was a lie.
This exact issue has been my gateway into home assistant and down a rabbit hole that has consumed me for some weeks now. We have a farm and we are very much diy people, more due to necessity than anything else. Luckily I like tech and very much enjoy the home automation side. I’ve had it on the back burner running basics including our myQ garage door openers through HomeBridge so when it all fell apart I started looking elsewhere. Now I’m full on home assistant junkie and my fix was meross antenna and they work seamlessly with my HA and HomeKit. I’m not so sure yet that myQ did me a favor, my husband and our checking probably don’t think so, but I’ve learned a lot and loving the new journey.
Our home came with 2 myQ openers. It was working in HA until the recent issues. I received a couple ratdgo units, printed a case off printables, and plan to get them installed this weekend.
Had mine setup for years in Home Assistant & Homebridge, bought a Meross and it works like a charm!
Thanks for the update. It is truly disappointing. MyQ is the only reason I purchased a chamberlain back in the day. Thanks for the suggestions as I just purchased a board from Paul using the link you provided. Thanks for all your hard work and videos!
Thanks Lewis for the update. Glad I am still using my 30 years old “dumb” opener with a simple zooz multi relay module. Glad the community picked up with a local control solution. 😉
Same here. I'm using FortezZ MIMOLITEUS that I've run for who knows how many years. I can monitor the door contact and switch the door on the same device. I originally bought it for Smarttthings, but I've fully switched all my devices over the Home Assistant. I'm building a new home in the near future and I would love to see a compilied list of locally controlled equipment to make my purchase list from.
I bought a Chamberlain opener since I got a high end model for a really good price. I didn't mind it being cloud controlled at the time because I knew I could always get around it if it ever got in the way. I'll be modifying my current opener, and will be avoiding Chamberlain in the future out of principle, even if I can make it locally controllable.
Thanks for the great video! RATGDO is an awesome local solution. I can control and see things with it on the opener that I couldn't before. I can see if the door is obstructed and I can turn off and on the remote light. Hopefully they can add even more features in the future like the state of the internal backup battery on the opener and the temperature and motion sensor of the remote button. So long MyQ! You are now blocked from my WiFi! 😉
YT appears to right on message - the moment you said the word "Ads", then bang! TH-cam cuts to an in-roll ad break,
Spooky!!
Never have I ever been happier that I bought a repair kit for my bog standard late 1990s/early 2000s "dumb" garage door opener instead of replacing it with a MyQ. A DIY solution utilizing a relay running ESPHome works well. I'm glad that there's a commercial version available for folks that don't have the experience or inclination to roll their own solution.
I love hearing your call for locally connected devices. The thing I struggle with is knowing what devices are worth my time and which aren't. Is there a database of devices that has reliability information? I just don't have time to make researching the companies behind smart home tech port of setting up a smart home. That's the part that I want to spend my time and creativity with.
Indeed, it can be a minefield, that's why reviews are so critical!
The Tasmota compatibility list works if you don't mind ripping devices apart and flashing your own firmware to them... I don't buy stuff if I can't, but it's obviously not an ideal solution, and does require some electronics and computer skills that not everyone has (or doesn't have time for).
Here in NZ we are so short of options for "open" products that I've been waiting years for product lines that promise support for Zigbee and now Matter. I've had to buy some light switches and power outlets using Tuya in a couple of key places but still waiting before I go wholesale replacement of electrical fittings. Have bought Philips Hue products with Zigbee support and they're working well but want coordinated fittings.
This video is a timely reminder to keep waiting. Currently in the process of swapping my Ring doorbell for the Reolink sitting on my desk that you featured recently!
I added the Meross opener. Added HA using the Meross LAN infestation in HACS. Been rock solid.
would be cool to see an ESP showcase of DIY IOT devices follow thing video.
Been using a Refoss/Meross device with my Chamberlain 'MyQ enabled' GDO since buying it three years ago. Low cost and works perfectly with Google and Alexa, as well as locally over the network if desired. It also uses a dedicated physical position sensor to ensure the door itself is actually open or closed.
I installed a Chamberlain (Merlin, but same same) motor earlier in the year and was chuffed to see it was integrated with HA - but the add on thing for it was quite expensive. I bought a Meross controller off Amazon for 1/3 of the price and it works perfectly fine for us - integrates perfectly into HA too.
I am very glad I modified my garage door (Merlin) using a Shelly 1 Relay now. The relay is just wired into the door button points they have on the outside of the control box for external switches, and the contact points for the door sensor are also wired into the relay. So for $17 AUD I made my garage door "smart", and using Home assistant widgets with authentication enabled my figerprint opens my garage from my phone. I also used zones so when my wife is halfway up our road heading home the doors opens, works great.
I never trusted the MyQ cloud service and wired an extra remote with a relay. Added a contact sensor and bam! Local control!
I have a MyQ garage door opener - and was affected. The main reason - the GDO has a built in battery and works even during a power outage - a unique feature at the time. I cannot help but wonder if there was any polling that the Home Assistant integration needed to do was part of the issue.
Personally, I'll be disconnecting my GDO from the cloud. Instead, I have an ELK M1 hooked up to Home Assistant and have wired an output on this to an extra garage door remote button. The door magnetic sensor is connected to the Elk M1 as an alarm zone. So - I can both monitor and control my garage door directly from Home Assistant via Elk. A fully local solution. All I need now is a 'virutal' Garage Door device with status driven from one entity and control offered through another (and I know this soliution is there somewhere for me to find!)
When the GDO needs replacing - Chamberlain can be sure I will go out of my way to buy a different brand.
Edit: I have decided to also add a Zooz ZEN17 (relay) and ZSE43 (tilt acceleration sensor) so I can make this natively zwave.
Interesting video. I am planning to build a house in the next year or two and have decided to use Loxone for the automation. I had initially just assumed I would use Chamberlain wall mounted opener but this kind of attitude to customers cant be rewarded. Will be interested to see what others recommend (UK based)
Subscription tiers and fees will be next, just as Wink hubs did years ago, and we all remember how that ended up for them.
I have been using the Meross from the beginning. Working as prommised. Thankx for the Video.
I'm giving tailwind a try - mainly because of the vehicle sensor to better open the door upon arrival.
After the first couple of outages I decided to just wait and see. After the last extended outage I unplugged MyQ and spliced in a Shelly1 (since ratgdo wasn't available) and haven't looked back. Local, faster, and no stupid beeping on closing.
Genie works great and it is powerful while being super quiet. Garage door openers are super easy to change out. Our old, noisy, POS garage door opener was a Chamberlain. Glad we switched!
Yes, but the Genie is still not local controlled. It relies on Internet servers and can also be 'upgraded' it the same way MyQ has done if Alladin decides in the future that they want a leader slice of the users pie. I have a Genie, but I do not like that it doesn't have local only control.
I'm so glad to see that there are already alternatives popping up (and kind of overvlooded) to kind of fight back these big companies. i't not a lot, but a lot of small impacts make big differences
Just installed the Ratgdo and it's rocksolid, super easy to get running, even supports security+ 1.0 for slightly older doors. Overall amazing product only downside was it took 4 weeks to receive from placing the order.
The first ESPHome project I did quite some time ago was integrating an esp8266 into the wall switch which now has an usb-port for power. Works perfectly and was easier than I thought :-) And I am not at mercy and I know this solution will work with the next unit as well.
Same. It was my first ESP project as well. 🎉
I really enjoy your content - I have a content request/suggestion - can you create a video covering setting up two-way audio in HA - there are some solutions out there but the documentation is pretty challenging for moderate to novice video and audio streaming users. This is a important function that would allow HA truly to replace any video security solution. Right now even if you get it working, it’s buggy at best.
No worries if not - thank you for everything you do! I’ve bought several everything presence sensors and love them!
I have an old garagedoor from the nineties or so. The best solution for me was to make my own using ESP Home. That way I got garagedooropener, lux-sensor, PIR and best of all; HA and CarPlay gives me a garagedoor-button in my car when our car is coming near the house🤩
I think what they were trying to say was that 0.2% of the users abused the API, not that the usage of the API was from only 0.2% of the user base.
A few months ago, had to replace our garage door roller motor recently and Merlin (part of Chamberlain group) was the only feasible replacement motor.
Hated the idea of subscribing to their proprietary "smart home" that is MyQ so grabbed an OpenGarage instead. Turns out it was the correct choice to make.
It's a little bit more involved than plug and play, but has been working a treat and it's all locally hosted and integrated with Home Assistant, it's great!
I have a lift aster opener, but an older one that works with a simple push button 2004-ish). I’ve had myQ for years-long before I began with home assistant. I have fashioned a Shelly relay and a couple reed switches to do the job as the hookup channel demonstrated. I began this conversion before this debacle as twice my myQ randomly opened my garage with no one home. The Shelly Works great. If I need to replace this opener, it won’t be a chamberlain made brand.
My garage door setup is a Z-Wave Zooz ZEN17 Universal Relay. I can remotely open and close my garage door and can also get the status of it as well as the access door so I know if either door is open. No cloud is needed, just home assistant. It's also a non-battery solution, meaning that it's constantly online and the door sensors are hard-wired (non batteries) and I can ping the device at any time and get the status of either door. Status changes are instantaneous within Home Assistant.
I am looking for a combination heater and fan that is compatible with smart home systems. I would like it to be matter/thread compatible but that is probably asking too much right now. I am also looking for something I can use to open/close my existing vertical blinds with the same compatibility.
Can you help?
I'm betting the 0.2% is accurate. I'm also betting about 0.2% of their huge install base uses smart homes beyond just the App, and I don't think the App users are terribly prevalent either. They're going to cherry pick the statistics that make them sound the most in the right. The "DDOS" attacks may just be as simple as "we get a bunch of denied logins when we blow up people's API logins, we have decided this is an attack". In my home the previous owners installed a MyQ garage door. I'll likely use the Meross system to get it back under my control after I verify compatibility. If I ever replace the opener, it wont be a Chamberlain.
Good job on the video, i would go even further and say don't get any hardware home automation hub's. They to as i'm sure i and many others here have been victims of can attest to, can be taken away at any time (insteon hub as an example). That's why i like home assistant so much, it can be run on a LOT of different hardware devices. Again great video, keep them coming.
I use a zwave Garage door opener. I believe the exact model is discontinued but being local it still works. Had to re-solder the push controller on the wall as it now has smarts to keep you from using any button but they are so cheap they exposed their own push button and I wired into that. Sure violated warranty but probably any third party integration will.
I wonder if you could redirect the local DNS record to a docker container and someone could write a program that allows you to run a MyQ like server that lets you control a handful of doors.
OR
If you can flash the boards on MyQ controlled GDOs to run open source software.
It isn't just about future compatibility where local control is king, Optus, a major ISP and Telco in Aus, had a massive outage last week. There were a number of news reports of people not being able to use their smart home devices due to having no internet. One was a disabled lady who couldn't physically move and was stuck with curtains and lights that she couldn't use.
Always make sure devices can work locally and preferably without the smarts i.e. keep normal light switches but put smart devices behind them so if the main controller goes down you can still operate the lights.
I have been using a custom FeatherS2 with a relay, PIR, and distance sensor to talk to HA via MQTT. Ultimate local control when it is DIY.
I use a Shelly on my doors and love it. I first had a homemade ESP8266 setup with a relay, but the cheap board had pin failures over time.
Ordered the RATGDO, looking forward to checking it out.
@EverythingSmartHome Did you tell TH-cam to show an ad at 6:23 just as you say ads?
Got Myself a RATGDO 2.5 and it works great super easy to setup and gives me more control over myq garage door
That's great news!
I've successfully used Shelly devices to control garage doors. Great product, and local control out of the box. Just setup the relay to O/S/C on the door motor and happy days.
The name of your video was all i needed to know this was about Chaimberland 😂😂 RATGDO was the way to go. Now i'm even disabling my wireless remotes at night
Yup ..experienced it myself. Now i have a shelly and door sensor working great. Made me realize i should of done that long time ago
Would it be possible to just use a BroadLink Pro for control and an Aqara vibration sensor connected to the door and use the tilt state to know if it’s open or closed.
Glad I ordered my ratgdo a month ago. Just arrived today and took 10 minutes to install.
As an integrator we simply solder to the physical button and control with io board, for every lock there is a key....
What happen to a good well build Shelly 1, installed from day one and never had any issues, locally controlled
I have a MyQ door controller but only use it to allow for in-garage delivery by Amazon connected to one door. Both doors are also controlled by a Tailwind controller which still integrates with HA 🙂
Since the Chamberlain wall button isn’t even a dry contact anymore, just power to a wall mounted remote, I soldered a GoControl X-Wave garage door controller to the button in the wall controller. The GoControl just “pushes” the button for me. Has worked flawlessly for years. Blocked the Chamberlain at the router and deleted the app. Don’t miss the ads for even a second.
This mirrors exactly what Rheem did with water softeners a few months back. We eventually were able to get them working again by significantly limiting the hits to the API, they still periodically block HA. I've had the Ratgdo for a week now, works great.
I added a shelly relay to open/close each of my garage doors and aqara door sensors to see if the door is open or closed. Chamberlain lost my future business when they basically told me tough shit when the DC motor of my opener went out - it was 12 months and two weeks old.
Yep, LiftMaster "owner" (probably more accurate to say "renter") here. Although the opener itself works fine, it will be the last product of theirs I'll ever buy. Wonder if I need to disconnect it from my network before they decide I'm not allowed to open my garage anymore.
Had Meross on my main garage and now just got another for my other garage that was still on myQ. Got them paired to my local MQTT instance so they're fully local.
Shelly one inside my garage door opener and some speaker wire down to a reed switch at the garage door as The Hook Up instructed. It's been flawless after I worked out my own issues.
I saw this coming. I wanted actual local control so I moved to a Zooz zwave dry switch and a remote that I quicly (and NOT cleanly 😂) soldered to the contacts on a remote control, and automated with Habitat. I also found that Amazon key now costs to use , so that stops all need for any MyQ services.
I have zigbee garage door openers, I think mine are Tuya clones, not sure, I got mine from aliexpress. They are hardwired to power and to the door opener button, and have a hard wired reed switch to determine if the door is closed. I'd like for it to have another reed switch for the open position but its not truly necessary.
As an alternative local solution may I suggest literally ANY relay you can connect to your home assistant or others and any vanilla garage door opener with a button? Just open up the opener remote one wire goes on one leg of the button and one on the other, DONE. Enjoy your local garage integration solution with parts you can probably get at a local hardware store..
I just use a Shelly1 for my garage door opener, works WONDERFULLY, super simple too.
I agree. I have two doors and a Shelly1 for each. Now it works reliably, works locally and, no more annoying light show when closing a door (and nobody is dead yet). Voice commands are integrated via Home Assistant and all commands are disabled when the alarm is set.
Another vote for the Shelly1. Good ol' Digiblur has a great video guide here: th-cam.com/video/nSrm6h7r-KE/w-d-xo.html
Having the magnetic reed sensor to detect an open door is awesome.
Plus, with Tasmota open-source firmware running on the Shelly, it can respond to local HTTP REST requests to open and close the door. This allows a home-screen button on your phone to control the door, using the "HTTP Shortcuts" app.
I also use a Shelly1, and a open/close magnet attachted. It’s cheap, simple and never let me down.
I have 4 garage doors. 3 are MyQ. I bought a myQ hub for my Marantec, but couldn't get it to work, so I had to find a workaround. I ended up just using a Shelly relay and it works perfectly and cheaply. I believe I got the idea from Smart Home Solver. All it does is the electrical equivalent of pushing the wall switch button and reading a reed switch contact sensor. It's not any more difficult than the MyQ installation. I guess I will be converting the other three doors with the built in MyQ to use the Shelly as well.
Totally seperate but kind of echos what Lewis said. Eufy removed the face recognition from their doorbells to the home hub 3. It was on their original device and the home hub 2 but now been removed to only the £160 home hub 3.
Still prefer them over ring due to subscription
Glad I got out of the MyQ ecosystem early. I was already annoyed with the slow latency and the API going offline frequently, so last year I moved to entirely local garage door system using relays and reed switches. My smartified garage door has been working flawlessly since then and my old MyQ hub is sitting in a box somewhere collecting dust.
Glad to hear you had something better already
@@EverythingSmartHome My only frustration remaining is that I wish I could sell my actual Chamberlain opener motor and replace it with a friendlier brand just to stick it to them, but I can't because Chamberlain and Genie seem to be basically the only brands that exist because of their patent trolling.
I have another question. Doesn't the traffic from IFTT that myQ recommends overload their system?
This is yet another case that indicates that serious standards are needed for IoT, which includes open standards, open source and local API. If any of these points are missing, the product should not be purchased.
I bought and installed a MyQ garage door opener a year back and decided to buy the same model again because it's relatively quiet, but I haven't gotten around to installing it yet. Now I'm thinking of reselling it and taking down the one I have to sell privately and hopefully find a solution that works for both doors with only door control (which was something I was trying to figure out before installing the second one). Any suggestions for brands to use that might not have this issue in the future? Or should I go with a dumb garage door opener and smart bridge?
I originally used my own Pi2 with a hat to control my garage door but now use a Shelly to do the job via Home Assistant.
Enel X pulled the same stunt with JuiceBox EVSEs. They rug-pulled so bad I can’t even access the device with their cloud app to change settings, let alone any local control.
Could use not just use an ESP and the GPI pings to trigger the garage door button already connected to the garage door?
Thank you for the information. I have some upcoming projects, and I will definitely tell my customers to don't choose myq.
I have hundreds of LIFX lights, and while they have a LAN API, I'm pretty sure you still need the cloud to set everything up.
I'm curious if you know of a place I can go to check which devices are local and which aren't. Lighting is the most important smart home device to me.
My whole house is local nodered only. Mostly Tradfri+Hue+Xiaomi aqara (zigbee2mqtt), WLED+Shelly+Custom ESP32 stuff (wifi). Decided to go local only without any proprietary bridge when IKEA broke tradfri's bridge API for the second time, around 2019 (?).
I will be adding a Shelly 1 to my garage door opener, and flashing my Shelly ÔTA with Tasmota to retain local control over everything. I few good how to videos out there.
Cheers