Getting Started With Home Assistant Yellow!
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- 9 months ago it was announced that Home Assistant had created their own Smart Home Hub that puts privacy & local control first: the Home Assistant Yellow! If you bought one back then, chances are that you will receive your unit very soon. So when is a better time than now to take a deep dive into Home Assistant Yellow & show you everything you need to do to get it up & running, including how to migrate from your old set up to your brand new shiny Yellow!
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00:00 - Intro
01:12 - Unboxing
02:10 - Yellow IO
03:34 - PCBWay Sponsor
03:53 - Inside the Yellow
04:52 - Installing the Compute Module & Heatsink
06:35 - Installing an SSD
07:55 - Installing Home Assistant OS
10:33 - The First Boot
12:12 - Migrating from a previous installation
16:41 - Activating secondary SSD
17:29 - Factory reset - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
The fact I could come back to this video 1 year later to follow the SSD storage advice speaks to how thorough it is. Hopefully I never need to refer to the recovery section 🤞🏻
Great tutorial for a beginner. Appreciate the effort you have put in to ensure the right level of details are included and presented in a very cohesive manner.
Finally, someone who explained it step by step for beginners. Well done!
Thanks for the hard work Lewis. This is such a thorough tutorial, must have taken ages to prepare. Love your work. Really appreciate it!
Thanks, glad you liked it, appreciate the kind words 🙏
Congratulations on your excellent work. Very explanatory video, rich in detail, and with top-notch image and sound quality.
I commend you for taking the time to explain and describe the various scenarios the watchers may encounter. Kudos to you sir!
Once again, Lewis, your thorough explanations have successfully guided me through a project I was hesitant to begin. Thank you!
Thank you so much for putting this video together. I am anxiously awaiting my Home Assistant Yellow PoE kit, but I have never used Home Assistant before. So I was a bit nervous and unsure how to get everything setup for the first time. This video answered all of my questions for now, and I am sure that your other videos will help me with my other beginner questions once I get everything up and running.
Great work. A few other TH-camrs have rushed to get something out but you've spent the time to make this more than a sales video. Very thorough and slick, thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it
Thanks for putting this guide together. My Home Assistant Yellow arrived a couple of days ago - it's one from the 2nd wave. Following your guide I successfully set up my HA Yellow, moved my existing install to it, and installed a secondary SSD, all without any hiccups or problems 👍🏻
Thank you 🙏🏻
I am new to Home Assistant, and I just got my Home Assistant Yellow PoE yesterday. This video was invaluable in getting me up and running for the first time. Thank you!
I finally got around to migrate my HA to Yellow and it went absolutely smoothly without any bump. All thanks to Lewis for such a comprehensive guide. Hats off to you sir. Might be silly but just so anyone wondering no, SATA SSD won't work with the Yellow. And in regards to Z-Wave Stick, you just plug into Yellow and boom, starts working straightaway. And finally, zigbee devices, for me the migration radio button in the configure menu, worked without issue. Just make sure to connect your old stick into the Yellow which will also deletes all data from the old whilst migrating to the Yellow.
Thanks for all your hard work Lewis! These videos keep getting better 👌🏼
Appreciate that 🙏
Amazing the yellow has been released and there are a wopping 2 video's about it. Must be a lucky two people who have recieved one. I am guessing it will be a full year before the rest of us actually see our boards w/ the pi's we preordered months ago.
Shipping times are absolutely abysmal.
Very good instructions, right to the point!
Great to see Yellow out in the wild. Been waiting for this! Thanks for the video.
Not long to go now!
I've just received my HA Yellow, and will do the migration. Thanks Lewis for the tutorial
Excellent overview of the Yellow! I especially appreciate that peel. We don't want to teach people that it's ok to leave the plastic on 😆
Hahaha gotta do the peeeeeeel
Lewis, thank you for another great video! The walk through is very informative.
Thank you, glad it was helpful
Thanks for a great informative video. Now it's just a matter of waiting until the delivery arrives to me in Sweden. And I suspect I will need to watch your video at least one more time before I dare to migrate to yellow.
Thanks! The issue I had was getting HA installed. Can't wait to move forward.
Excellent video as always Lewis. Thank you!
Thanks Ed!
Great video Lewis thanks! Hopefully I'll get mine soon (went for the POE option), looking forward to tinkering with it.
Thank you Lewis, great video as always.
Keep them coming 😁
Appreciate that, I'll try! 😅
Great tutorial. Thank you.
Excellent, thank you.
Awesome video. Thanks a lot.
Very helpful, thanks
very helpful materials
Thans to this perfect explanation to how to yellow installations, last week I was asking on discord for how to do👌🏻,
Fantastic respond thanks a lot ❤️
Much needed video!
This was very detailed. Good job!
Thanks buddy!
Thanks!
Thanks! I am still! waiting on mine but you just calmed some of my fears!!
Haha not long to wait now!
Very Informative!
Thanks Jim!
Great job!
Thanks for watching!
Very nice video, TNX.
Thanks!
Thanks
Thanks for the very helpful video. I might order a Yellow as a backup in case my ageing NUC dies!
Thanks for watching - enjoy if you go for it!
Waiting to see you install that Zwave adapter. I think that this is a great way to get into Home Assistant. I don't see an issue with recommending this for someone who wants to dip their toe in.
The people who are way out into the think of things though are already on more robust hardware.
Brilliant!
Thanks!
I'm not planning to move to the home assistant yellow. But I watched the whole video. Just because I like them so much.😅
Your the real MVP 😂 thanks for watching!
Great Video Lewis, very well done! I considered the Yellow for a while, but due to the lack of availability (and my impatience) - I ultimately went with the container version on a Linux Host. Would love some videos from you on the container version if you get a chance.
Me too!!!
You lose out on quite a bit using a container, with many functions depending on addons. I tried the same way for a while, in the end I just used a VM to get those functions back.
Hi, congrats for your new apartment and good luck with these new series of videos, always following you with a close attention to your contents...
I have a question... how good it is the integrated zigbee antenna in home assistant yellow? Does it worth it? Or better continuing with sonoff zigbee and zigbee2mqtt? Thanks
Great video as per usual 😘 where's the best place to purchase the new HA Yellow? Thanks
Excellent tutorial ! Thanks.
One question if I may : since we do not have HDMI on the Yellow, how can we connect a TV so that we can display Netflix, films, with KODI from H.A. ?
Nailed it again Lewis
Thanks Declan!
@@EverythingSmartHome Is there any chance you might explain how to update homeconnect to the OAuth standard? or have you already done this and I missed it?
I cannot wait to get hands on... Ordered one ages ago.
Nice, enjoy when it arrives!
@@EverythingSmartHome Thank you Lewis, I love your videos by the way.
@@EverythingSmartHome thank you, just received today
Wanted to get one but not available until 2023, did I read that right? Thanks for the great intro - I did not know about this handy device before hand!
What's harder to get right now is a CM4. It's impossible to find at the regular price. All sights say first quarter. 2023. Not sure how long it would take to get the yellow if you ordered now. I almost went for the POE version but glad I didn't because they had to go through a redsign.
I did my pre-order on June 10th and my yellow just got here last week. Might want to check out the home assistant SkyConnect. Not shipping until December but a ZigBee/Thread USB adapter for 30 bucks is a heck of a good deal and you know it will work great with HA.
If you have an older PC you might be able to set up HA on it. I haven't set up my yellow yet. Running HA on a 8 year old NUC but it's starting to act flaky. Neither of the video outputs worked when I installed HA 4 or 5 years ago on it so I'm surprised it has worked this long anyways. If you have a NAS you can run it in Docker but that requires a bit more technical knowledge for setup.
I believe you can run HA on a pi4 using an SSD now, not 100 percent sure but an SSD will speed it up a lot compared to an SD card. You can get a ZigBee 3.0 USB adapter for 20 to 30 bucks right now.
If you have an older PC that is not in use then you can download the x86 version from the HA website. You have to image the drive (I used etcher) then put it back on the PC so you will need some sort of adapter. After that turn it on. This is why I haven't set up my yellow yet. My 8 year old Nuc is 10 times faster then when I ran it originally on a pi 3 using the SD card. At the same time I know the yellow is going to work with everything without any issues so that's why I got one.
I don't think they expected the number of orders they would get. Their crowdfund goal was 150K and they are over 1million now.
I believe HA is now the second biggest open source project and it's been around for 5 years or more so it's not going anywhere. It's here to stay. If you have a spare pi 3/4 then you could just set it up to make sure it's what you want then order the yellow if it is. You want it hooked up to Ethernet. It works over wifi but adds latency also.
Nice video again. I also went for the PoE version, but now the next problem is getting a raspberry compute module. Sold out everywhere for months........ 😞
10 out 10 bro
Thanks, appreciate it!
Thanks for this excellent video Lewis! My Yellow kit arrived yesterday and I am counting my blessings for having purchased my CM4 in anticipation late last year (when they were 'difficult' to obtain rather than 'near impossible'). I put it all together today and ran the installation with migration from backup. The only 'issue' is the ZHA migration - I have the ZHA backup but have plugged my old stick into the yellow so everything works for now. Triggering the migration when the new coordinator isn't on usb seems to be the sticking point and the forum advice is to wipe the configuration then install from backup so it triggers the migration. But I think I'll wait for more refinement and documentation of that process.
Thanks, glad it was useful! Hmm, can you migrate from the old coordinator to the new one directly without plugging the old one in?
@@EverythingSmartHome I tried a straight migration, but it was looking for the coordinator on USB and didn't 'see' the yellow's zigbee coordinator. I'm still on the 2022.9.7 core, so maybe this would be fixed in the 10.1 update I'm yet to apply or in the near future. I also had to uninstall and reinstall the Blutooth integration because of the change in bluetooth adaptor, but as I haven't made use of that integration yet, I just took the simplest fix. Now the new system has been running for 24 hours, I can also report it is running cooler than my old HA install on RPi4 in a Pibow with a Pimoroni Fan Shim. The provided heat sink in the custom case is keeping the CM4 CPU around 6-8 deg C cooler than the RPi4 CPU was in the same environment. Pleasantly surprised by that.
Thx
That plastic film peel 😍
Love a good peel 🥰
It is impossible to get CM4 modules... so good luck getting this up and running... Mine should be coming next week, but probably will wait 2yrs until cm4 is available...
NabuCasa may be able to have some cm4 by the end of the year to ship the standard version, but if you have a kit, you’re probably right, it’s going to be a looooong wait to get a new Pi. Unless of course you want to buy a used one for $200+ 😳
CM4s are a bit tricky to find, but doesn't take that long if your patient, use a site like RPI locator - there is stock coming in more often than you think
@@EverythingSmartHome Been looking at ripilocator for ages for CM4 for my HA Yellow but haven't seen one in stock here in the UK.
@@EverythingSmartHome oh thanks, I didn't know this kind of tool existed. I see already low spec ones (1GB ram) will wait till better ones will be in stock
Do you think it's possible to use our old zigbee module with yellow, at least temporarly, in order to avoid the complete repairing of all sensors?
I cannot wait to try it, but this news is too painful!
Mine as just arrived.
Thank you for at great video. I am going buy a HA Yellow, but I am not sure on the version. I will be able to use PoE, but are there any benefits in using PoE ? And starting out, how much RAM and eMMC do I need. Would you recommend buying a SSD?
Is that Obi-Wan on the thumbnail? Jedi endorsement, it must be good.
If I have an existing HA install on CM4 (with eMMC) on an I/O Board, can I just take the CM4 board and slot it into the Yellow board? Or will I need to go through the backup process and reflash the system?
They still have issues with emissions on the PoE version of the Yellow as of now (30 July 2022), but the non PoE versions are shipped :). I believe the HA team are confident the PoE version will be approved soon.
It may be there first attempt at partially custom hardware (partially because the Raspberry Pi compute module is not a custom part), but they have put a lot of effort in with it being over 2 years in development. The HA team are very thorough with their testing and quite picky with part choices, so I expect these to be reliable for a long time.
As of October 2022 the POE version seems to have passed emissions testing. Amazing work from the Home Assistant and Nabu Casa team!.
I believe the AEOTEC Z Pi 7 or the ZwaveMe Razberry 7 will also plug straight on the small header port to add Z-Wave radio to the Yellow if you need integrated Z-Wave rather than a USB Dongle.
Hi Lewis. Have I understood correctly. I would have to re-pair all my devices. That would mean me renaming all my devices and entities the same as my current setup. ?
Could you please post a link to the “Things I should do after installing Home Assistant for the first time” video? You mentioned it in the explanation.
Thanks for this. I currently use LHA and a Conbee II, when I migrate to Yellow should I delete its integration before backing up and migrating? What is the best way to handle this if I am not going to be using the Conbee? Thanks.
Just got my HA Yellow (finally after such a long wait). Thanks to your awesome video I got it setup in no time and without any issues. That was absolutely painless. Next step will be moving all my 60+ Zigbee devices from 3 different zigbee networks (Hue, Ikea and Deconz) all onto the HA Yellow ZHA. I fear that won't be as painless and will cause me a few more gray hair 😂 But let's see maybe it won't be that bad.
Maybe you could do a video on that as well 😁
Just hope that your hue bulbs are still set up on the hue hub. If not, you will need to add them back using the serial number. That's the easiest way because the hue bulbs only go back into pairing mode when you delete them from the hue app so do them one at a time or the pairing may time out before you add them to HA using ZigBee (not the Hue integration) making you add them back to the Hue app again. There is also a way to put them in pairing mode but it requires a hie dimmer switch which I do not personally own. This was not fun, especially if you have a lot of hue lights but HA is so much faster for turning on/off lights then through the hue hub.
@@JoshFisher567 Thanks for the tips. Yes all my Hue lights are still connected to the HUE bridge. I will go one by one and see how it works. I have 50+ lights, 20 light switches, 5 or 6 dimmer switches. So it will be lot of work
Hm, does data migration format the ssd or does it need to be formatted from the beginning?
Would the install process be the same with a CM4 module with no EMC storage using an m.2 drive or do you have to image the m.2 drive instead of a USB stick?
How much would you recommend this over a separate PI with zigbee adapter?
Currently have a PI 4 2GB,with a [sonoff zigbee 3.0PLUS type e] and plan to upgrade.
Would you recommend this with a CM4-8GB over getting a PI 4 8GB
Thanks for such a helpful video! Do you have guidance on how to install HA on the yellow with a CM4 Lite?
This video describes how to do it :)
Hi there, I need your advice. I have an 8GB RAM RPI CM4 Lite. If I copy the image file using RPI Imager on my PC directly to my M2 NVME SSD using a USB adaptor and then install it on the main yellow board, will it install the Yellow HASSOS when I connect power and ethernet cables, or do I need to fit the blank SSD first then use the USB stick flash method in your video? The only downside to the former method (if it works) is that it will leave the img file on the SSD.
Made in the UK, unless I misread that screen print.... jolly good effort.
You mean the CM4? Yes I believe all Raspberry Pis are made in the UK.
thx interresting
Thanks!
Thanks for the great detailed video.
Unfortunately (for me) I encountered and issue not described here.
When I connect my HA (which uses PoE) to the Ethernet cable it just won't start (no led light turns on at all).
I check the CM4 module connection (which seems to be the common issue on many other threads) but not in my case :(
Hope maybe someone can help..
I have a question I use HomesBridge which I find fairly easy. I’m just curious do you prefer home assistant over HomeBridge? Have you tried them both?
Im running it on a NUC now, but I will keep this in mind should I ever move out and take the NUC with me so my parents don't lose the smart home completely
Haha good luck!
Is it possible to install homeassistant on the SSD, and somehow ignore existing eMMC ? (just to benefit of the full speed and reliability of an SSD)
I finally got my Yellow, however I am unable to find a CM4 anywhere. What do you recommend I do? The Yellow is basically a glorified paperweight at this point because I can't move forward.
Why does the two boards look so different? Is the one without CM4 module the PoE-version? Any other difference?
I am getting my yellow next week. I and getting a writing error when using pi imager on my USB drives when trying to load image on stick. Does it matter the type of stick for this. I tried 3 different ones and also a SD card in a USB adapter same error on all 3. I formatted cards before running also. They don't have the file anymore as downloads on raspberry site to use baleana etcher to flash it.
Where and how can I buy this product? What's the delivery duration to USA I will appreciate quick response
Is it required to use a raspberry pie or can I just use an old 2015 macbook pro.
One question: should I update the HA Core and OS on my existing install before migrating using a backup? Or will the backup restore fine (for the most part) and would only need to tweak a few things that the updates might have broken?
It's generally advised to restore to the same version you have backed up from, as since the Yellow will download the latest Home Assistant on boot, then you should upgrade to the same version and then backup.
hi. what's the difference between cm4 wifi and without wifi?
Would it work with SATA SSD instead of NVME?
Well I finally migrated from my HA Blue to HA Yellow. I am using a Sonoff Zigbee dongle with Zigbee2MQTT. First attempt to fully backup system and restore it to the Yellow and set path/ID to new Zigbee controller in Yellow FAILED. So, for now, I plugged in my Sonoff dongle into the Yellow and was able to update its path after a restore. On original system I did STOP my MariaDB addon and then did the full backup. First restore on to Yellow seemed to FAIL as I could not get either the MariaDB or the Zigbee2MQTT addons to successfully start... I gave up and went back to the HA Blue. After a day or so I decided to boot the Yellow with the Sonoff dongle attached again and capture some of the Log entries to try and understand what it did not like. SURPRISE! When it powered on, both the MariaDB and Zigbee2MQTT addons started!! After sometime passed, most all of my 45 Zigbee devices reported online. I had about 4 that I had to re-pair with the dongle. Today, all are reporting and working. I had about 5 that needed their location set, but the remaining migrated over their location settings as well.
Now I just need to learn how to migrate from the Sonoff dongle to the built in Zigbee router on the Yellow using Zigbee2MQTT.
I have heard that the range of the built in Zigbee is not good, but I would like to test / see that for myself and I could always migrate back to the dongle.
Still a mystery as to why a shutdown and power cycle of the Yellow and a repower on of the unit allowed both the MariaDB and Zigbee2MQTT addons to work / start???
Would it not be cheaper to use a Pi 4?
I’m completely new to smart home world and I bought a new Home assistant yellow kit and able to integrate Ring front doorbell but not the door sensors and the base station. Though I’m able to access the flood light cameras only the light and siren info only but not the cameras. Can you please help me if I’m missing anything here? U0173 Home Assistant Yellow - PoE Kit (Without CM4 Module) 1
C0277 NVMe SSD - 1TB Silicon Power 1
U0176 Raspberry Pi Compute Module 4 (CM4) - 8GB / 16GB / Yes WiFi/BT above is my configuration
Thank you in advance!
Any way to benchmark performance against another HA install on other hardware?
Hmm not in HA directly anymore (there used to be one), you would need to use a different benchmark for it unfortunately
Thank you Lewis for your effort and sharing, but my question is, is the yellow worth it, or do I buy a nuc just for the home assistant? Could you share your impressions of performance between a pi 4, yellow and a nuc, it would be a good video. Cheers
The yellow is a pi4 only with some additional options like on board M2 SSD. Its a raspi 4 compute model so just a raspi 4. Buy a NUC 10 i7 to get real performance. Running 7 Cameras with object detection on frigate with 40% cpu load. The pi4b will go to 100% cpu load with 1 camera object detection. I really don't understand why home assistant ever released this yellow. I must admit it's pretty good for home automation just like the normal pi4 but with cameras and object detection you should never go for this low performance stuff
Is the installation process the same when comparing eMMC and SSD? Assuming there's only SSD storage, no eMMC.
Yep that's right, identical!
@@EverythingSmartHome so no bootloader update or something? Thought that was necessary for nvme boot.
The setup does seem more complicated compared to the usual, mainly due to the lack of a video out. But I guess since it's only used once it's hard to justify.
Hmm I get what you mean, but the standard Yellow is literally plug in and go - if you decided to go for the Kit version then chances are you may be a little more advanced anyways.
Video out would have been nice but I think it was a licence limitation (think you have to pay to use HDMI?)
Thanks for the video. However my Yellow refused to connect with the connection refused error message. What can I do?
Did you make sure to use http or https as mentioned in the video?
Thanks for reply. Yes I did. Also tried both homeassistant.local:8123 and ip:8123. I bought the standard UK version.
Ok, I did a factory reset and now everything works like a charm! Thanks.
Only zigbee? no zWave?
Thanks for the video. I notice Yellow uses Raspberry Pi architecture. I really like the ESP32-C3 microprocessors, not least for the 5v pin, but ESPHome cannot integrate them on Home Assistant when run on Raspberry Pi! To me this is a serious limitation. A few posts on the internet have said you can overcome this by using platformio but as yet I haven't seen a working example. I'd love to see a step-by-step video, Lewis!
I'm not sure what you mean sorry, esp32s don't need to be plugged into the Pi for them to work with ESPHome
@@EverythingSmartHome Thanks for the quick response and apologies for not making myself clear. My Home Assistant runs on a Raspberry Pi 4. However, when I try to add an ESP32-c3 to the ESPHome integration (and I have a couple of ESP32 Wroom already set up), you go through the process of selecting the board and then installing. The process fails at this point. The error says a certain package is missing. According to posts on the internet, the ESP32-C3 is incompatible with Home Assistant because it is running on a Raspberry Pi.
I'm not aware of any limitations - if your running home assistant OS 32 bit then yes that could be a problem, you should switch to 64bit which should clear up any issues
@@EverythingSmartHome I am running it on 64bit! The nearest thing I have seen to a solution is "someone with same problem - response is build it on an intel/amd pc" which isn't exactly elegant. I'm wondering about shifting HA onto a spare laptop and junking the Pi. Anyway, thanks for your thoughts, really appreciated. Have a great weekend!
@@EverythingSmartHome ESPHome installer reads: INFO Reading configuration /config/esphome/esp32-c3.yaml...
INFO Generating C++ source...
INFO Compiling app...
Processing esp32-c3 (board: esp32-c3-devkitm-1; framework: espidf; platform: platformio/espressif32 @ 3.5.0)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Tool Manager: Installing espressif/toolchain-xtensa-esp32s2 @ 8.4.0+2021r2-patch2
Error: Could not find the package with 'espressif/toolchain-xtensa-esp32s2 @ 8.4.0+2021r2-patch2' requirements for your system 'linux_aarch64'
I assume this is not worth it if you have a Pi4 HA setup already, right?
Yellow has some nice advantages IMO like easily expandable storage (Pi 4 has this too of course but not as eas - yes it's still easy), as well as a built in ZigBee and Thread radio with Matter support whenever that happens. Compute Module should be able to be updated in the future when the new one comes out (not a guarantee but hopefully)
Having said that, whether or not it's worth it for you is for you to decide - perhaps not if you already have a setup your happy with!
Does it work with UniFi products as I’m aware the raspberry pi four didn’t always work with UniFi
In what way sorry?
unfortunately i ordered without a cm4 because this was before pi shortages :(
Keep using website like RPI Locator to keep track of stock, there has been some popping up recently
Does it have z-wave?
Not natively but you can add it and make it completely discreet by using the Aeotec Z-Pi 7
No anti-static strap?
Never needed one in 19 years of building computers personally, but if you want to wear one then go for it! 😅
@@EverythingSmartHomeYou never need one, until you realise that you needed one. My thought was really for the benefit of the viewers. Especially when handling stuff that is effectively irreplaceable.
Bluetooth dongle? But the raspberry pi should have Bluetooth build in, or dosnt it?
It works with all 32 variants of the CM4 module so you can get a CM4 with BT/Wifi. They chose not to with the version they shipped that includes a CM4 due to possible interference issues with so many radios next to each other. Have fun finding any CM4 for retail, obviously you can pay double to get one but they are not going to be available until 2023 for retail price
It would be best to get a BT dongle and USB extension cord to avoid any interference issues though