As example: In the F-14 I assigned every Jester command, from 1 to 8, into the ICP's numpad and Jester toggle menù to Enter key on the ICP. Life changing for me.
I like the different angle you took for this review. I fly the Hornet exclusively when it comes to modern jets, but I love the Spitfire when it comes to warbirds (in your campaigns specifically). Your comments on how it can apply to warbirds is great. I've been thinking of expanding into the Viper and this kind of helps, since I have a pretty reasonable Hornet simpit already and adding the Viper ICP looks like a dead-easy addition. Thanks Reflected. Good review.
Thank you for your review. But a lot of people had Bad experiences with Winwing After-sales services which didnt want to manage issues with hardware under warranty 😠. Some hardware had mechinal issue (internal parts that break ONLY after 2-3 months of normal use 😢😠😤) but Winwing After-sales service reply that the they did thousands of tests before selling hardware. So issues come from customers who do not use the hadware in a normal way. So some people spent hundreds of euros in hardware which becomes unsuable only After a few months. Winwing had now Bad reputation around me (french DCS ans BMS community)
when you have real hardware you not need look it on screen. it can be play without cockpit. only hud. oh yes thats amazing with 5 screen LOL. no need track ir. just look
I use the Multiporpose UFC, which is layout for most Jets. YOu just change the frontplate, which is Magnetic. I am really happy with it. Spec for Guys flying diffrent planes.
I have been using the Winwing ICP since it was released. I really like it. It adds a hole new level of immersion. Really looking forward to your campaign. Did Winwing send you the MFSSB Orion base? I would love to know what you think of it.
I would love to have some sort of UFC/ICP for DCS. My go to would be the newer one of the F15E, if someone would produce it. But I‘m contemplating if it is really worth it as a VR user, because pressing all those buttons „blind“ maybe isn’t that intuitive, and not that much faster compared to simply using the mouse. Did you try the ICP while flying in VR aswell?
is made of plastic?? so what? Plastic was a the best composition material ever invented, even jets and airliners use common plastic in certain parts of the cockpit. if somehow plastic would be forbidden to use today, the world would be doomed
Been following you for a while now and didnt realize you utilize a laptop for DCS. What kind is it and specs on it, I travel a lot and want to be able to bring DCS with me to a point?
Mine came yesterday and what can I say except: I love it! Fits perfectly in my WW F-16EX HOTAS system and as you said it makes flying the Viper so intuitive. Thanks for the review, cheers Milan
Would you use this in VR? I play in VR solely with virpil controls. Muscle memory means i know exactly where everything is even with the headset on. Im wondering hoe useful this would be. Has anyone tried in VR. Obviously its a shame about the DED as would not see that.
Did you get the MFD's as well? I see that WinWing sells the DED with the 2 MFD's as a package. Was surprised as well you play DCS on a laptop. I figured you'd have a high-end system with large monitors etc etc
I thought I might let you know. I purchased the ICP and upon receipt and inspection I decided to return the product. Well, this process has been a nightmare. I never install the ICP or unpackaged it from the wrappings. Since Feb' 24 I've been asked to sent various pictures of the product and still have not received a return authorization. It's probably me but I thought I would share with the folks since in your review you mentioned that WInWing reached out to you and provide you with the product to promote sales.
Sorry to hear about your experience. I bought my stick the usual way, it wasn’t sent for free and I had no issues with their customer service. Maybe the Chinese New Year caused some of the delays?
As a former flight surgeon for the 180th (Toledo ANG) whose skin is used in this video, I would love to get this skin. Is it available somewhere I can easily find? Thanks
I have the WinWing ICP and atm playing your Weasels Campaign, where this gadget really gets to shine! And such a supergreat campaign! But man, you really need a pair of table mounts as your next buy! That will totally complete all that nice gear of yours! :)
@@ReflectedSimulations I don't care how you think everyone else does it. You should disclose immediately that you accept gifts from companies to do your reviews. So people don't waste their time if they don't want that kind of review.
I love your campaigns. I love your videos, but if you did not pay for that equipment, I don’t want to hear a review on it. Everything is awesome when it’s free.
@@generic_luke I can't speak to this particular piece of equipment, as I don't have it. I do have the winwing MFD panels though (just the button panels, not the screens) and they're brilliant. I paid full price for them and would absolutely recommend them. Given my experience with those, I completely believe everything being said in this review.
I see what you mean. However, I wouldn’t say anything in a paid review that I wouldn’t say in an unpaid one. Also, if you look at most of the reviews on TH-cam, all DCS youtubers got it for free to review it. In the video I tried not to sound like a newsboy ‘hey buy this!’ - but rather share my thoughts from a different aspect. I stand by everything I said ;)
Wearing flight gloves does not help either. It's like when your flight instructor shows up with Raybans and a leather flight jacket time to find another one.
As example: In the F-14 I assigned every Jester command, from 1 to 8, into the ICP's numpad and Jester toggle menù to Enter key on the ICP. Life changing for me.
Great idea!
That's a great idea!
I saw your honest review of the F-16 stick 2 years ago and this video and just bought the stick and ICP today. Thank you for a great review video!
yep I use my MIP MFD's for the buttons in nearly every aircraft i fly, maybe not all the buttons but a lot of them
I like the different angle you took for this review. I fly the Hornet exclusively when it comes to modern jets, but I love the Spitfire when it comes to warbirds (in your campaigns specifically). Your comments on how it can apply to warbirds is great. I've been thinking of expanding into the Viper and this kind of helps, since I have a pretty reasonable Hornet simpit already and adding the Viper ICP looks like a dead-easy addition.
Thanks Reflected. Good review.
Thanks! In my book: the more buttons and switches you have the better. The rest is up to your creativity.
The buttons in the real one are literally made of plastic 🤣 good plastic though.
16 ICP is more elegant of a control system than the 18 UFC.
I agree, more intuitive
For the price it is awesome. ICP from simgears costs 400 euro
Nice bit of a kit that. I've just assigned it to my numpad, but that's way more posh.
That’s what I did before I got this one.
Not a fan of the block60 icp/ded combo but looks good. I'll stick to my sim gears icp and ded
Thank you for your review. But a lot of people had Bad experiences with Winwing After-sales services which didnt want to manage issues with hardware under warranty 😠. Some hardware had mechinal issue (internal parts that break ONLY after 2-3 months of normal use 😢😠😤) but Winwing After-sales service reply that the they did thousands of tests before selling hardware. So issues come from customers who do not use the hadware in a normal way. So some people spent hundreds of euros in hardware which becomes unsuable only After a few months. Winwing had now Bad reputation around me (french DCS ans BMS community)
DCS on a Laptop? Oh boy I did that for a while, also with VR. The thing was burning hot. Guess I was just lucky that it didn`t catch fire.
It is hot, I’m using a cooler stand
when you have real hardware you not need look it on screen. it can be play without cockpit. only hud. oh yes thats amazing with 5 screen LOL. no need track ir. just look
I use the Multiporpose UFC, which is layout for most Jets. YOu just change the frontplate, which is Magnetic. I am really happy with it. Spec for Guys flying diffrent planes.
My home squadron is the 112th! Can you release that livery? There’s no good ones out there
It will come with the campaign
Awasome review :)))I fly mainly in VRn is this worth it for VR users? thx a lot ! Greetings from France ^^
Thanks! Yes I fly in VR too
@@ReflectedSimulations thx a lot :)
I have been using the Winwing ICP since it was released. I really like it. It adds a hole new level of immersion.
Really looking forward to your campaign.
Did Winwing send you the MFSSB Orion base? I would love to know what you think of it.
Thanks! No, I have the normal Orion base for the stick. I wouldn't be able to use the MFSSB for other aircraft I think.
I would love to have some sort of UFC/ICP for DCS. My go to would be the newer one of the F15E, if someone would produce it.
But I‘m contemplating if it is really worth it as a VR user, because pressing all those buttons „blind“ maybe isn’t that intuitive, and not that much faster compared to simply using the mouse.
Did you try the ICP while flying in VR aswell?
Yes in VR too. Easy to find the buttons with your eyes closed, but I can peek through the gap over my nose too.
is made of plastic?? so what? Plastic was a the best composition material ever invented, even jets and airliners use common plastic in certain parts of the cockpit. if somehow plastic would be forbidden to use today, the world would be doomed
I totally agree, but some people cringe when they hear the word plastic
I got my ICP before Christmas and I'm really happy with it
Been following you for a while now and didnt realize you utilize a laptop for DCS. What kind is it and specs on it, I travel a lot and want to be able to bring DCS with me to a point?
It’s an Asus f15 with a 3070
Mine came yesterday and what can I say except: I love it! Fits perfectly in my WW F-16EX HOTAS system and as you said it makes flying the Viper so intuitive. Thanks for the review, cheers Milan
Nice, enjoy! I certainly do :)
@@ReflectedSimulations For sure I will. And the day I get my hands on Kola and your campaign will become legendary!
Would you use this in VR? I play in VR solely with virpil controls. Muscle memory means i know exactly where everything is even with the headset on. Im wondering hoe useful this would be. Has anyone tried in VR. Obviously its a shame about the DED as would not see that.
I use it in VR. It’s awesome
Did you get the MFD's as well? I see that WinWing sells the DED with the 2 MFD's as a package. Was surprised as well you play DCS on a laptop. I figured you'd have a high-end system with large monitors etc etc
No, not the mfds, not yet anyway :) I don’t have any more desk space haha
@@ReflectedSimulations Totally understand! Desk real estate is hard to come by some times! Really enjoy your content. You do great reviews!
I have … it is awesome 🤩
you did not really cover any cons, which makes me skeptical
I literally don’t have any cons. I mean what can be bad about such a panel?
Got it together with 3 mfd's and screens. Its a game changer. Make everything in the Viper so much easier, faster and more fun.
My DED screen does not display. Do I have to run any software for the DED to work?
Yes you nees the SimAppPro software to communicate with dcs
Thanks.👍. And Subbed.
Wow
Hi there, I love your Messerschmitt and Focke Wulf campaign. But, I was wondering if you guys are planning to make a campaign for the Dora.
No campaign, but there are 2 Dora missions that come with the Horrido campaign
@@ReflectedSimulations Yeah I know about it, but I wish there's a full fledged Dora campaign sometime in the future.
@@thencrranger5628 sorry, no such plans
@@ReflectedSimulations Ok it's fine I understand
Nice devices! Great review! 😀
Thank you!
I thought I might let you know. I purchased the ICP and upon receipt and inspection I decided to return the product. Well, this process has been a nightmare. I never install the ICP or unpackaged it from the wrappings. Since Feb' 24 I've been asked to sent various pictures of the product and still have not received a return authorization. It's probably me but I thought I would share with the folks since in your review you mentioned that WInWing reached out to you and provide you with the product to promote sales.
Sorry to hear about your experience. I bought my stick the usual way, it wasn’t sent for free and I had no issues with their customer service. Maybe the Chinese New Year caused some of the delays?
As a former flight surgeon for the 180th (Toledo ANG) whose skin is used in this video, I would love to get this skin. Is it available somewhere I can easily find? Thanks
Thanks, it will come with the campaign
Hey quick question, when not flying the viper, is there any function to the display? Like does it display any flight data ect.? Cheers for your work!!
Not that I know of, it only displays the Viper’s data.
I have the WinWing ICP and atm playing your Weasels Campaign, where this gadget really gets to shine! And such a supergreat campaign! But man, you really need a pair of table mounts as your next buy! That will totally complete all that nice gear of yours! :)
Thanks but that’s not mine, it’s from Ground Pounder Sims, I just had the honor to review it :)
Hey, this is great... can you please tell me what skin you are using? looks great... can you share the link?
It was made by Roughmaster Liveries and it will come with the campaign
Any rookie friendly missions you recommend?
How do those suction cups work on a textured desk?
It doesn’t use suction cups but 2 sided sticky tapes. And they work perfrctly. I have an unfinished wooden desk.
Did you get all free?
Yes, except for the stick which I bought earlier
@@ReflectedSimulations if get sick of them let me know hahaha
Why did I have to wait a minute into the video before you disclosed this was a gift from the manufacturer?
How do you think all other reviews work?
@@ReflectedSimulations I don't care how you think everyone else does it. You should disclose immediately that you accept gifts from companies to do your reviews. So people don't waste their time if they don't want that kind of review.
I love your campaigns. I love your videos, but if you did not pay for that equipment, I don’t want to hear a review on it. Everything is awesome when it’s free.
Don't want to hear something in a TH-cam video? Easy fix - don't watch it.
@@generic_luke I can't speak to this particular piece of equipment, as I don't have it. I do have the winwing MFD panels though (just the button panels, not the screens) and they're brilliant. I paid full price for them and would absolutely recommend them.
Given my experience with those, I completely believe everything being said in this review.
I see what you mean. However, I wouldn’t say anything in a paid review that I wouldn’t say in an unpaid one. Also, if you look at most of the reviews on TH-cam, all DCS youtubers got it for free to review it. In the video I tried not to sound like a newsboy ‘hey buy this!’ - but rather share my thoughts from a different aspect. I stand by everything I said ;)
Wearing flight gloves does not help either. It's like when your flight instructor shows up with Raybans and a leather flight jacket time to find another one.
I don’t see why a person can’t examine a gift objectively.