Roger Waters Uncut. The full interview with Michael Smerconish recorded in Philadelphia, PA - 8/4/22
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- Roger Waters Uncut. The full interview with Michael Smerconish was recorded in Philadelphia, PA at the Four Seasons Hotel Philadelphia on August 4th, 2022. www.Smerconish.com
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Michael, great show but like so many American's you do have a blind spot for the chaos the US causes in the world. Roger gave you sound advice to expand your reading and to open your eyes wider.
💯%
He can't he part of the western propaganda machine.
But, but.....'Merica!
He doesnt wanna read. Hes already usa biased.
Roger is wrong about Russia. The United States sided with the communists against Germany. He’s peddling propaganda.
"Every war when it starts, all you need to do is look at the history. " golden words ✨️
The truth is, every war when it starts nowadays, all you need to do is to find out if America is behind the scene!!
And then violates his point.
There's an old Buddhist piece of wisdom..."if you want to understand the present situation, then look at past events. If you want to consider future outcomes, consider the present actions."
Look at the history? In what respect?? Like when a maniac that wants to kill all the Jews and take over all of Europe invaded sovereign countries then bastions of freedom like the UK and America and France, decide to fight against that evil. Yeah look at the history indeed aditya!!
And Roger got all the history wrong. ;)
Very very few would dare to speak the truth, but this man has always been on the side of the truth.
And nowadays, when LIES are all we get from Media, telling the truth is so revolutionary...
I wish many others had the courage to stand up to Goebels' countless BIG LIARS
We 💜 U Roger !! BRAVO !!
I think it is worse than that. Corporate media rarely gives anti-war, anti-imperialism, anti-capitalist voices any room on corporate media. So we are all left with the impression that the topics and framing that corporate media makes room for are the only views that are correct. These media outlets have their own ideology and bias (and other corporate sponsors that are paying their bills). It is reflected in the type of discourse they allow on air. They used to allow a lot more people like Roger Waters speak their minds to their audiences. They are too afraid of losing advertisers nowadays.
hope more Heroes come forward
How do you know if he tells lies or truth. I hear full of BS… he s paid to air his ‘opinion’ and it’s really up to you to believe it but make sure to use your independent thinking, just sayin
Goebels? Joseph Goebbels?
ROTFLOL! HILARIOUS! Says the Putin troll to the CCP troll. ROGER WATERS IS A FASCIST. Putin and Xi are guilty of war crimes and crimes against humanity. Russia and China are grossly inhumane fascist states and all fascist dictators regimes MUST DIE.
Echoes is my favorite PF song, and to hear him quote it as his main message sent chills down my spine.
same! and actually he just spoke my favourite line of that song to describe his only ever message to the world..! wow
@@manuelguerraphotography7168 that is my favorite line as well and hit me so hard
Same here! Second verse for me... Their MOTHER, and our children.
PINK
FLOYD.
LONDON
But what would Echoes have been without Rick Wright …. Underestimated .
Roger always speaks the truth. Very intelligent and well informed. We live in a society of ppl wanting to be “politically correct” when in fact they are far from being anything but correct. Roger treats ppl equally. No one is better than! His show was fabulous in Philly! Keep on doing what you’re doing.
Finally someone tells the truth without fear! Roger is the best!
I cant believe people think this way. Russia is not The country you want to side with. I support whatever is in My own countrys best interest, And at The moment it sure as Hell is to NOT give in to russia. Is America a good side? Definately not, but Americans are free to Voice their opinions at least. That makes USA The better of The two
@@anttitheinternetguy3213 please listen Roger’s advice again. And go to read. Then compare (if you wish…)
@@КонстантинХомяков-э3ф to Be fair to you i only saw Part of The interview but what i saw i disagreed completely. I cant imagine what kind of a man supports russian government on these Times, its like saying nazis were right when conquering sudetenlands.
@@anttitheinternetguy3213 I’m russian bro 😎 and I recommend you to find full version of interview, and of course listen carefully to Roger’s advice- every time try to get full version of every information and knowledge 🤷♂️ it helps you to see the difference and truth (🤥 ). I grew up with Roger’s poetry, listen to him closely - he’s real man of peace ✌🏼 talent and strong. And he is a patriot of course. It’s normal to love your home and family. I respect him for that too. Like mr. Oliver Stone for example. I’m so brought up to respect honesty, wisdom, age, experience, talent and firstly humanity. And Roger just advised you to listen, explore, read more than simple slogan 🤷♂️ isn’t it normal for wise people? Open your eyes and hearts. That’s it.
I hope that maybe a part of Americans hears him.
Sorry for my English friend but I think it’s much better than your Russian 😉
All the best ✋🏾
Michael blushed when Roger said the Chinese didn’t invade Iraq in 2003 killing a million people. Good job Roger.
Your maths is off because you are failing to account for all of the variables except one.
And masterfully changed the subject!
The US didn't invade Tibet in 1959
dude, you deserve to read more as he suggested
@@singo1987916 - yeah! i think Mr. Waters needs to read more!
Amazing, well articulated, incredible human being. Thank you Roger for speaking out the truth and stand up for us the people
lol no
He only stands for himself.
A truly useless air waster
@@M.Robespierre3691 no
lol yes
Im American and agree with Roger 💯
Great advice from his mum. The world needs more mums like that so there's a greater good in the world.
Too bad he didn’t have a dad to teach him to be a man
@@Ck-zk3we That was uncalled for. And, untrue. What have you offered the World Mr.Testosterone?
@@kellyfrancis1873 he offers not bowing to a controling dictator
@@Ck-zk3we YOU sound 👂like a troll.
@@kellyfrancis1873 He taught me not to be a flaming hypocrite who got rich off and lives safely in a free society while praising hyper corrupt war criminals and mass murdering fascists who imprison, poison and assassinate those who dare criticize them. What did daddy dearest teach YOU, Vladimir?
Thank you so much, Roger, for your music and speaking truth from Russia! This is not the first time in history that Russia fights lies, and not the last time it will win :)
ну это еще и не последний раз рашкованы получают писты :) тут с тобой соглашусь
Россия!!!!💪💪💪🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺
@@danilodyachok8009 от кого? От тебя чтоли?🤣 Уркаина становится все меньше и меньше)
@@ferrisbueller645 готовся к жесту доброй воли, ванюшка
I guess naZis like lots of shitty things
"But what about our role as liberators ?" Jeez, some Americans still think like this!?! I mean there world is in a hell of a state, its true, but liberators..? Hope the show comes to the uk.
Role as liberators... that's very arrogant
@@Randomisticful and delusional. Which can be very dangerous to the rest of the world.
The role as liberator is the disguise. World dominance through economical, social and military aggression is the task.
"Role as liberators" is just code for, "we're the culturally superior western imperialist and we get to determine how you live your life because we're better than you".
What's truly amazing is that this was always a neocon position, no rock journalist would have dared say such a thing a few years ago.
The left has fully embraced fascism.
Michael is such a US apologist, reading from.the entirety of US MSM gives the illusion of different voices, but if you source who funds the US MSM media then you'll soon realize there is really only one master and a singular interest, if you want to "perspective" you have to look at independent sources as well as soruces out of country, otherwise you're being duped
Reading from many but only sources of crap does not make one any wiser. That’s why Michael talks the way he does.
@@gabriellee6898 hearing in argument, watching a program, reading what someone writes is not the same as relating to what the other
Person is saying and being open to
Fair pov.
@@gabriellee6898 one person once said, I don't agree with your contrary opinion, but it forms a better vision of my world...
I watch nothing but Independent news channels and news from other countries.
Well, he needs to earn a paycheck that's why he had to tote the party line.
thanks for mentioning the losses of Russia in World War II, they don’t remember and don’t talk about it.
Thank you Roger for speaking up for China. At the end of this interview, Roger's sincere speech on Taiwan and China's human rights has been swiped on the Chinese Internet in the past two days.
Yes! I came here after watching it on wechat channel!
Have you ever actually listened to Pink Floyd??? It’s torture -- I recommend you play it to Uighur prisoners
@@goatfokerkadyrov7528 you believe in what you believe in. The lie was originated from mike pompeo. If you didnt know what kind of a person he is, i suggest reading it up. His most famous quote as a former head of CIA is ”we lie, we steal, we cheat.”
And no country’s leaders recognizes the lie. It’s the western media and politicians who keep spreading the lie, but ask macron, trudeau, and biden. Even the far right morrison from Australia refuses to make an official statement about it. I wonder why. Also, any hard evidence? Like satellite images and stuff? Only empty talks and some “interviews” from people whose lies were debunked by their own families living in Xinjiang. Well, i think it would have been much easier if Chinese government held their families hostage to shut these “speakers” or “victims” up right? Do you see that lots of logic here just dont add up? Also, urghurs are only half of the muslim population in China, every okay sized city has mosques and muslim population. I suggest you go and see for yourself, and ask the Uyghurs directly.
I’m typing all these assuming you are not a bot. But if you are, kindly ignore.
@@goatfokerkadyrov7528 if Pink Floyd is torture for criminals, I'm gonna go rob a bank right now
@@goatfokerkadyrov7528 try
"Wish you were here"
Roger is smart
Thank you for this upload, Michael
Thank you Roger for telling the unfiltered truth
Roger Waters speaking the truth and nothing but truth👏👏👏
Great interview,open ,honest. Respectfully giving your opinions and still being able to disagree without animosity, very refreshing.
Be aware of anyone who views himself as a "liberator".
I wish this had been much longer! Most excellent!
Love Roger waters , but easier to have opinions on poverty when a multi millionaire.
5 days until I finally get to see this legend in Atlanta. I've enjoyed his music since 2nd grade I'll be 50 this year. Dream come true.
Have a great Time
His music is great but his political and economic views are delusional and wrong!
Absolutely love Mr. Waters' knowledge of what is really happening around the world and who the true villains are. It's a plus that he isn't controlled by mainstream media and can be forthcoming with the truth. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Yes ignoring genocide, he's greeeat
It's also a relief that the host didn't have him following a script, or terminate the interview as soon as political correctness was thrown out the window.
I previously had some doubts about Roger Waters but after viewing this " interview " I now have a lot of respect for him .
The argument about American involvement in WWII and the US being a savior has always bothered me immensely. WWII started in 9/1939 and millions were dying on the battlefields and in the gas chambers of the concentration camps while the US was making Hollywood movies. It wasn't until 12/1941 when the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor that the US got involved. It's likely the US would have stood idly had it not been attacked. Shameful and what arrogance.
And don't forget Hiroshima and Nagasaki
What country wouldn't have avoided getting involved in WWII if it didn't have to be?
@@Zholobov1 the Japanese now don’t who dropped these two boys, and why
@@meowkaiser6024 they're deep down under americans
@@dpg227 Any superpower who called itself the leader of the Western World. Interesting that the US can’t keep its tentacles out of anything for decades. You should be asking why is the US getting involved when it doesn’t have to like it didn’t when it should have. Hypocrisy at the highest level.
Oh my dear god, the man is a legend. " i recognise.. myself in every strangers eyes", and a bit of, "everybody got somewhere, they call home". One message man, and a total and utter genius. People always look at what roger does and says... Then attention gets paid, no matter the subject or topic for discussion.
Could be Jerusalem or it could be cairo...
Bass players do have balls: I admire Roger Waters for his courage and his intelligent, critical and very true statements! I do love and respect what he has to say as an artist. What he is now saying in this interview is equally powerful. It is a political and democratic message right into the heart of a world that is in desperate need of more people like the great Roger Waters.
Who needs Roger Waters? Seems to me he needs enough gullible people to agree with his absurd (and dangerous) political views to keep his bank acct. flush by going to his concerts. They say Trump doesn't care too much for music but I have a feeling he's a fan of Roger....Vlad and Xi must be as well.
Listening to this is like breathing fresh air. Good on you Roger.
Thank you Mr. Michael. This is a huge interview giving Roger the platform to speak out whatever in his chest. Even I stand completely with Roger I can also sense your most professional journalist spirit in tolerance Roger. It is great efforts from both of you. And you have my most honorable esteem. Keep up the good work.
He's always been amongst the most intelligent musicians. He doesn't only consume what is served in the mainstream media but goes around with an open eye and educate himself. Sure, he may have had different opinion in the past but it just proves he is willing to learn and think and change his opinion when realises he was wrong about something because of lack of knowledge.
It's a complex world, and this is a complex issue (Russia v. Ukraine) as Waters said, with a past history to add in to the equation. The USA is going through a similar issue, with SOME Americans becoming uncomfortable with the increasing levels of minorities, thus turning the US into a true (or truer) melting pot. It's not identity politics as much as Identity existentialism (if that's a word). It's a quandary only for those with self-serving agendas.
A multi-millionaire, who is touring non-stop with 40+ year old material for big money, lecturing us about how everybody else are supposedly just doing things for profit?
Hilarious - and sad.
Oh, and China and Russia, those beacons of democracy, are 100 trustworthy?
Roger, you are a joke - and it's high time to pack it in.
@@paulbrinkman5631 Excellent comment Paul. I believe what you describe is the root of what we now call Trumpism or MAGA, and I am afraid it's bigger than your comment suggests. I hope I'm wrong, but it seems to me the mass appeal is that Trump expressed explicitly - no dog whistles - what too many Americans hope to preserve, i.e White people in charge. I don't think this applies to everyone who voted for Trump but I do believe that White supremacy uncovered, uncloaked, without the white robes, is the heart of the attraction.
He is anything but intelligent but he is sincere...I'll give him that.
@@stevemorse108 He's more intelligent than you ever will be. I'll give you that.
He totally blew it with that Clinton story.
Roger still rocks! Absolutely brilliant! 💯👍✌🙏👏
Roger wiped the floor with him.
THAT'S the advantage of knowing the truth and being unafraid to voice it.
There was no wiping the floor, the way interviews work is that it gives the person being interviewed a platform to discuss their points and views. A good interviewer may bring up current counterpoints at times and will steer the interview, but they are not there to debate, for that you'd go to a structured debate rather than an interview.
Apparently someone has a lot to read, not only imperial propaganda. Thank you Mr. Waters.
Thank you Roger. You are one in a million.
Wow! Roger really surprised me. How he knows truth and history , i thought this knowledges was bunned in Europe and USA for the name of democracy
LOL!! Thanks for at least admitting you're a fascist.
I know right!????
@@jinniwind what?
Hearing Roger makes me understand him more and actually thinking I'm a lot like him. He's an amazing artist and so is the rest of Pink Floyd, much respect to him
I thought CNN was a junk media that only released fake news. Well, this uncut interview re-gained them 10% respect from me. Thank you, Roger, for speaking out! And thanks for releasing it.
Unfortunately, this channel is not cnn. Lets see how their chop up looks.
Wrong . CNN did cut.
This segment , along with other recent reports from Western corporate media, is a recognition that Ukraine cause is lost, and they need Zellensky as the fall guy, a little more ctuticism of US policy is now allowed to pave way to ditch Ukraine hence this interview
CNN will have to do a lot more to get any percentage points from me.
Yes, it was cut and a little edited then rect apparently and some people have noticed, so it is surprising to see this.
I actually saw it again now it to verify if the title said the truth.
Deepest appreciating for Mr Waters saying the truth to the world who are unable to understand it.
Finally someone has the balls to speak the truth!
Yeees! 👏👏
Finally? There are MANY out there speaking the truth.
Pouring derision, you mean?
So TRUE ! HE IS our HERO in the WESTERN WORLD!
Well... He's been doing that for the last 60 years, you know?
I dont watch CNN anymore or any of those mainsteam liars but Ronger Waters clip is doing several rounds on many Channels. I could not resist looking for the full version. Kudos to the CNN guy posting the whole version even though Roger kept on giving him knockouts. Thank God for people like Roger; the world might...just might escape total destruction.
It's funny you think Roger got one over Michael. Michael is way smarter and more knowledgeable the Roger could ever dream of on these issues. He's just a blowhard with a platform
His takes are fucking terrible, pure Putin/Xi propaganda, when did he become lobotomised? Must have been in the past couple of years I'm guessing he spends his time watching Jimmy Dore and Russell Brand whilst watching TV News that advertises itself as "anti-Mainstream" yet seems to do nothing but promote Russian/Chinese interests whilst telling you how terrible America is, he probably sits in an online echochamber of some sort as well.
Same here, I don't watch CNN anymore. Only watched this full interview with Roger Waters. Very few are willing to speak up and speak their mind. Kudos to Roger Waters for doing that.
Wait, what?!
He's defending the Chinese on Taiwan...? Isn't it clear that the Taiwanese don't want anything to do with Communist China? What about the will of the Taiwanese people... he's Ok to give that choice to people of Donbas but the Taiwanese...oh no, that would offend the Chinese 😱
And he talks of the Paris Declaration and in the next 10 minutes he's talking about China not being a Human Rights violater? Has he not heard of Tibet and Xinjiang? Looks like he's still stuck in his 1940s romantic obsession with communism... either that or, the Alzheimer's onset is pretty rapid...
Totally agree!
Watched this many times, tears in my eyes. As an ethnic Chinese, with family living in both mainland and Taiwan, enough of lies the MSM has spread, enough of hatred it had caused. Unbelievable arrogance and ignorance. Thanks Roger for seeing the world with your own eyes and being brave enough to tell the truth 💖
16 years? OK. I will believe you are real. If I take you at face value, I am lead to believe, that you believe Taiwan is part of China and is not an independent nation. If this is correct, what are your thoughts on the inevitable war that China will unleash to reclaim its "wayward province "?
You’re lying
Praying for peaceful reunification let the families and friends come together these people are one ❤️
@@aggravatedassociate8237 not even Taiwan itself claims to be an independent nation. Learn some history. They themselves will tell you that they are part of China. After all, Taiwan = ROC (Republic of China). The question between the PRC and the ROC is not rather its independent or not, it's about who is the legitimate government of China. The US, UN and 180+ countries recognize Beijing as the legitimate government of China and that Taiwan is part of China.
@ Aggravated Associate I was born in Taiwan. Taiwan is part of China is a fact not just a belief. The sad history of the civil war separated two sides of the strait. We hope both side can reunite peacefully. However, if there is anyone on Taiwan island trying to separate it from China, there will be inevitable to resume the temporarily stopped civil war.
Благодарим вас Роджер за вашу позицию! Вы великий человек! Мне 29 лет и я слушаю вашу музыку,потому что мои родители слушали Pink Floyd! 🇬🇧 🇷🇺
Roger is so intelligent and well spoken, glad he sees beyond western propaganda bs.
There’s seeing beyond western prop and then supporting China over Taiwan. He’s gone batshit insane.
Sure he is well spoken and articulates his thoughts with a certain elegance but that doesn't mask the delusion for me
@@nickpalmer54 there is only one delusion - is that WEST is honest and don't ruin other countries by military force, especially USA forces. People killed, robbed in Iraq, Lybia, Afganistan, did you care? Does it brought them better life? No, their were brutally robbed and killed and abandoned in poor land by USA. Because of that actions, we have terrorists attacks in the Western countries, to make you wake up and understand that the lost their families, homes and now YOU(ordinary guy) will pay price for it. What else do you need to get it?
He seems very adept at propagating Chinese and Russian propaganda BS though. He's quite an asset to those two regimes.
He s paid to air his ‘opinion’, it’s just another propaganda, timing is right!!
我来自中国，我了解中国发生的事情。真相是中国人民无比拥护共产党的领导。在中国人民团结一心，努力奋斗，向着更美好的生活目标前进。至于征服世界？算了吧。一个五千年的文明没有那么幼稚。中国不会称霸，中国人最热爱和平！
Intelligent man. The US government never keep their words: Iran nuclear deal, the Minsk agreement, the Shanghai Communique Agreement, the Paris Accord, etc.
That's Bull crap
@@spiderreed350 One is either trustworthy or not trustworthy. America is not trust worthy. JCPOA is a prime example.
@@dirkdiggler3009 what countries are
@@spiderreed350 none
@@Mikeunism1 Greenland. Their _can't_ be much deception going on in Greenland :p
Roger Waters has always been a champion for the people.
Michael's mistake was to say China is the top of everyone's agenda. Who'se agenda? Of course the west and particularly America when there are still thousands of Native Americans that are treated unfairly from ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY PLUS YEARS AGO. I live in China and see first hand how the vast majority have benefitted, how 600+m have been raised from abject poverty while in America you have a rising number of people dependant on food banks and food stamps - who is going in the right direction?
Unless you are Ukrainian it seems
The people in the Kremlin and in the CCP? Yeah, I'm sure Vlad and Xi would agree with your comment! 👍
@@meself349 do you think that if tomorrow those two people drop dead the world would change? If not, then wtf are you talking about
Lol
Stick to music Roger...You lost me at the Russians liberating everyone in World War 2. Maybe you should come and spend some time in Poland and talk to the generation that was affected by this "liberation" from the Nazis by the Russians. By many accounts, no one could believe anything could be more devastating than the Nazi occupation, and then the Russians "liberated" them, and life became far worse! You have every right to voice your opinion, but I have every right not to lap it up. Love the music, but not the politics so much.
love the way he thinks everyone else is wrong or being duped by propaganda. frankly he lost me right after he said he believes china. come on man..russia is bombing civilians repeatedly. also totally ignores the Budapest Memorandum in 1994 which russia promised to respect ukraine's sovereignty.
@@andrewnewman4255 Yeah...he is delusional. He continually says that he was right in calling out a dystopian society. Well, no, he just copied Orwell (which he admits - yet HE is right????). The music remains fantastic...but, yep, Waters, you are delusional mate.
Best part is at the end when Rogers tells him to go and do his reading .
HA HA HA
Me 2
Waters is right though
@Basik totally agree with you!
Waters knows nothing about millions of dead since 1950 in China, under the name of "People" republic of china. So ignorance that he still says he is telling the truth? And tells others to read books ? Sigh.....🙈🙉🙊
@Basik if the Chinese didn't slaughter people from other countries, not as far as you can tell, why would you think the narrative that the Chinese slaughtered their own countrymen is true?
@Basik The program is 28 minutes and 52 seconds long,you should be able to enumerate the lies from that,yet with no surprise at all you cite exactly NONE
The only thing I knew about Pink Floyd was that it was a band from the 60s. Now I know differently. What a brilliant man this Roger Waters is. His perspective and analysis of the world as it stands today is nothing if not phenomenal.
So brilliance to you is genocide denial and shilling for terrorist regimes?
I have been listening to Pink Floyd since i was a youth, i still listen to this day, quite often actually.
If that's all you know, I can tell you that he was a total narcissistic prick towards the other band members.
It was an anti establishment punk band and they nailed it.
He is a mommas boy.
Didn’t have a dad to teach him to stand up to bully’s
I love PINK FLOYD music of my youth. and I love how the founder of Pink Floyd talks the real truth about russia ukraine conflict and truth about american president...
@Basik Notice how no one thinks you have anything valid to say? I see you have another comment about the alleged Uighur genocide" that's an odd genocide where the population INCREASES every year and infant mortality goes down🙄. The primary "source" for all that nonsense is a man who is not Chinese,does not live in China and is paid by the completely exposed NED, I mean they openly boast about doing openly what the CIA used to do covertly,which is trying to foment regime change.
@Basik you’re honestly a fool to deride those people that bothered to research the reality of the world outside our own borders; beyond the confined boundaries of corporate media discourse, with your absurdly biased narratives wrt U.S foreign policy decisions that routinely parrot the state dept.’s propaganda lines rather than investigate any conflict in earnest, especially when that news concerns a nation that has the potential to bring in just as much advertising revenue with a redscare headline to garner more clicks.
@Basik You’re also sorely mistaken if you think anyone in this comment section is a Qcultist. Last I checked those dinguses don’t even believe there IS a war going on in Ukraine, those of us that actually researched a variety of sources instead of skimming a CNN article know that there is indeed a war going on, just that it’s been an escalation of several conflicts since at least 2014, with breaches of the Minsk agreements on both sides, after 3300+ civilians were killed during the years of shelling that the regions of Donetsk and Luhansk. That figure is from UNICEF btw, not a Kremlin-ran media outlet. The point roger and I believe the other commenters are trying to convey is that the situation is not a matter of black and white/good vs evil as the CNN presenter implies, because he knows his salary relies on his ability to obfuscate the truth like the partisan hack he is.
@Basik , You seem --for a political junkie--whatever that is supposed to mean to have difficulty understanding English. Waters "position" is for humanity. Not for a war machine for an Empire pretending to be a "democracy."
@Basik The TRUTH hurts huh?
Just saw him last night in Glendale, AZ. Amazing show. No artist puts as much heart into their show as he does. It is sad that people can "hear" Pink Floyd songs, but never actually "listen" to them. Absolutely my favorite band of all time. Thank you, Roger Waters.
I was there in glendale too, great show that moved me but also very interesting to learn more about a perspective that I hadn't been exposed to before.
you're absolutely right
Pink Floyd, if any, IS THE band to bring humanity together, *cough cough* the wall
Can I ask did he have Putin up there as one of his war criminals??
@@marky1974 My post is seven months old. Putin and pretty most of our leaders are all war criminals. The fact that we wouldn't even negotiate a peace deal with Russia makes us just as culpable. Lord knows we would have don't the same thing if China was going to make a military deal with Mexico. But we have to keep our own war machine crawling. What a better way to test our newest weapons than to use them in someone else's war.
Go Roger, give him some facts and he falls apart and wants to joke. Imagine if people like Roger were in power the world would be in a better place. Ha ha, "Who's Hilary, didn't he climb Everest?"
He would make a fantastic president, imagine the establishment establishing sucj a popular and principled figure, it would be RIP for the legacy media hybrid establishment
Thank you Roger Waters !!!You are a great human being!!At least i am glad that there is still great musicians from Britain that actually read the history and knows what they talk about.!!!Your speech is so important !!
Roger is a brave guy, intellegent and openly talking about facts against massive propaganda machine.
Wait so the Great Leap Forward wasn’t deadly?
HE IS A FASCIST WHO LOVES FASCIST STATES THAT TRY AND TURN HUMAN BEINGS INTO "ANOTHER BRICK IN THE WALL".
"From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand." Matthew 4:17
"Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also." Matthew 5:38-39`
Roger can be annoying when hearing Pink Floyd stories about him, but his politics are spot on. Love the guys politics.
I respect this interview a lot more after watching the full uncut version. While I don't personally fancy the interviewer's ways, this uncut version is a lot more real and human than the edited down, butchered version on CNN.
Thanks, will check it out because this one is unwatchable. The interviewer really needs to stay out of it more.
That’s what CNN does, cuts and chews for its audience
@@loveandotherthings1455 true
@Bryan Mack , no, I don’t expect anything from anyone. The talk is about CNN and how they manipulate or highlight the voices they want their audience to hear, AND you are free to go and check what TC does in his shows and keep comparing. Geez.
I agree
I saw him in Cincinnati last month after waiting 2 years from fucking covid.
It was stellar.
Apocalyptic , dark , brutal , and very sobering.
I fought off tears for the first 3 or 4 songs because it was such a powerful performance.
I was there as well, and i was torn!!!!
Because it was such a powerful performance or because you stubbed your vagina?
Was Putin on his list of war criminals??
All I can say to Mr. Roger Waters for speaking the truth is thank you sir. 🙏👏👏
A joy to hear the truth from a great
Musician. Thank you Roger forl
listening to your mum !
😂😂😂😂
A multi-millionaire, who is touring non-stop with 40+ year old material for big money, lecturing us about how everybody else are supposedly just doing things for profit?
Hilarious - and sad.
Oh, and China and Russia, those beacons of democracy, are 100 trustworthy?
Roger, you are a joke - and it's high time to pack it in.
He talks nonsense! Both on the economic AND the historic front.
"WW2 wasn't Germany's fault, but the West's. Germany was threatened and only did the sensible thing", Roger Waters.
That's just brilliant, Roger!!!
Humanity still has a chance to survive
Long live common sense💪💪💪
What a waste of fucking time, you just can't reason with some people.
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Roger Waters,not only a great singer,but also a great human being.
Do not insult the word great!
Yea ignoring genocide is greeeat
if you consider good what Russia is doing in Ukraine, let this good returns to you a hundredfold
@@tatianahanz9783 it’s definitely good. They are helping the people in the Donbas who would have been crushed by Ukraine and their massively build up army (with help of the west). The majority of infantry fighting against the Ukrainian military are the Donetsk and Luhansk militias. People who live in East Ukraine (or who had to flee). You don’t give af about these people and you want them crushed. So stop acting like you are this great person for supporting Ukraine. You aren’t.
@@arminius504 ruZZia started the war in 2014,( girkin, zaharchenko, Motorola) All fights were fueled by ru ZZia. Mass murders, rape of children. Ukraine is sovereign country. Why did putin invade Ukraine? Why ruzzia didn't let Chechnya go?
Almost tears, thank you so much for speak it out. I’m so surprised that CNN allowed other voice!
They are good in exposing the morons
Well, CNN is not run by the Chinese Communist Party.
@@CannibaLouiST lol
@@geno1519 is already a huge step, we don't ask for more 😂
@@eviii4987 We do .
Roger Waters didn’t sell out. Good man. The interviewer is typical mainstream.
Respect to Smerconish for publishing some truth. Thank you Roger Waters for telling it.
Honestly I want to commend Smercornish for this, but in a way the damage has been done, Europe is suffering, there is no more trust between the public and elites, I dont think its even worth teenagers planning to go to university becuase education is compromised and had lost its value or meaning it just an elite factory.
I'm sure Roger Walters is now cancelled.
IMAGINE THIS: YOU DO AN INTERVIEW TO ONE OF THE MOST FAMOUS MUSICIANS TODAY, HE DISARTICULATE YOUR RUBBISH POLITICS NARRATIVE BECAUSE YOU ARE A RIGHT-WING JOURNALIST WHO TURNS RED WHEN WATERS TELL YOU TO READ MORE, AND THEN YOU DECIDE NOT TO PUBLISH THE INTERVIEW OR WORST, YOU CENSOR SOME PARTS OF IT. WELL... HE HAD TO PUBLISH IT, HE HAD NO CHOICE, HE IS AN EMPLOYEE, EVEN THOUGH WATERS DESTROYS HIM.
@@petru4335 right wing? You think that dude is an Anarcho capitalist? You think someone who works for a big corporation believes in free markets? Lol, you also need to read a bit. Roger is only half honest and that puppet of an interviewer is a robot.
you need to read more
Waters is something as rare as a great musician with a brain who is actually informed about the world and is not afraid to express his views! Kudos!
Yea ok. Just because you like his music does not make him smart
@@shaund4978 Right, he's smart because he's able to critically analyze information put in front of him and come to a logical conclusion
@@shaund4978 you are right, there is also plenty of music I like when I suspect the musicians not to be very smart, but still enjoy their music
@@TheJollyLlama875 and his conclusions are very wrong. Rodger should open his eyes on agressive Vladimir Putin's policy.
@@shaund4978 Lmao! So true.
Канал Дмитрия Юрьевича вот потерли с Ютуба за такие же мысли. Видимо Роджер был один из 3 мил. подписчиков. Mr. Waters, thank you for such a considered position. Are there any other people in the West who have critical thinking? PS: and thank you for your music!
Yes there is my friend, but we are being censored.
Their are millions of us out there who see through the bs but it takes famous people like Roger to bring it out into the open. Not enough like him, sadly.
Too many wef shills like Bono.
Roger is a musical Genius but about politics, he is very low level... also journalist is not well known the political issues. Dear Roger before NATO's communication with Georgia and Ukraine Russia did war against them and took historical parts from Georgia, it was 1991 year as Taiwan is China's part. So when we are talking half true it looks a little bit unserious
Great interview. It show how civil it can be when differences of view is presented in a discussion. I hope the CNN cut shows the full version. The problem nowadays is people are living in different realities becoz of what they are shown on social medias and often biased journalism (Yes, I meant CNN, Fox News, etc). As a Chinese Canadian living in Asia, I have to agree with Roger. Americans need to read and watch more news from our side of the world. Perhaps listen to people who are living in Asia to get a different perspective. And NO, we don’t need US to be the liberator. It’s just a nice way to justify American Exceptionalism.
I caught a tension there briefly until they caught themselves.
Most people with Ukrainian flags on their profiles have never heard of the coup that removed Viktor Yanukovych ,the war in the Donbass since 2014,the Minsk agreement and the agreement between NATO and USSR not to expand eastwards towards Russia.
To characterise this kind of discussion as a sincere moral dialectic is mistake. Smerconish, like every one of his corporate media peers, is not exercising a carefully considered and genuinely held personal viewpoint, rather he's obfuscating, misleading and propagandising, because that's what he's paid for. Still I suppose it is a positive thing that, in this age of dissident censorship, CNN is platforming voices like Waters at all (even if they did pull the tired old microphone adjustment trick that's so often used when a speaker gets into their flow.) Though a clear-eyed cynic might come away from this interview wondering if the "powers that be" aren't trying to reverse the public opinion they've worked so hard to cultivate in recent months as they look to construct an off-ramp from the US's disastrous and untenable Ukranian misadventure.
@@fredfredrickson5436 “microphone adjustment trick”? Jesus are all you tankies this paranoid? 😂
Either way you’re an apologist for a right-wing autocrat who invaded a sovereign neighbouring state. A US-backed coup in 2014 and sectarian violence in eastern Ukraine do not justify such an escalation. Irredentism & revanchism are ethno-nationalist doctrines that no one on the left should support. Russia unilaterally deciding to get involved militarily for so-called benevolent reasons is just as heinous and likely to backfire as US interventions have been in the rest of the world. Consistent application of principles is important if you want to be taken seriously!
i’m actually impressed that CNN really didn’t chop much out
This channel is not CNN :)) Wait and see what will be on it :))
@@edwardgr1698 i’m talking abt the 8 minute version, thought there would be a lot more content in this one that they left out. but most of the big points were in there
I think that CNN executives probably think this makes them look good by "Exposing Waters bigotry and RussoChinese propaganda" or some bs like that.
It did chop more than half.
Because Roger Waters have the caliber to destroy CNN reputation if they censored his views.
Great musician. But to lecture on poverty when wearing a 15k Rolex is ridiculous. He speaks of capitalism with disdain. Is he not a multi millionaire?
Then to top it all he compares his 70’s output to visionary writers of the past. Sorry, Mr Waters. Take a look in the mirror. You are no George Orwell.
Thank you Roger Waters. Just for keeping life real!
Hats off to Roger, unlike the general public he is very well informed
He’s absolutely not.
@@endtimes814 why would there be any need for analysis? He flat out rubbished the idea that , a country who ran sweat shops that use child slave labour, who are currently treating covid stricken people like cattle. China are huge violators of human rights. He’s clearly too wired to the moon and far too busy pointing the finger at the west to know what goes on elsewhere. I think people need to remember he was the bass guitar player for Pink Floyd, his political opinions aren’t worth any more than the average man on the street, but fans just eat up whatever shit he feeds them because he can write good songs. People should also be wary of hanging on the words of a man who absolutely never refuses to accept that he could be wrong about anything, which is part of the reason he can’t maintain relationships, because he has to be right about everything.
Roger actually reads up on his shit. And states nothing but facts. None of that western propaganda bullshit. Big fan here from California💯👌🔥
Thank you Roger, one of the few that can be counted on. From start to finish.
One of the few. like the song in The FInal Cut
Brilliant + brutal & hilarious. Thank You Roger Waters 🤝
It should be noted & appreciated that Michael chose to post the _full_ interview under his own channel and name, despite being heavily schooled by Waters and despite CNN cutting over 2/3 of the segment on their page. Thanks for the disclosure.
A great credit to Roger Waters for his civil courage and willingness to tell the truth. The world needs just such people.
Love him but sounds like he fell for the government's Covid stats. That disappoints me.
Roger Waters simply revealed himself to be a flaming hypocrite who got rich off and lives safely in a free society while praising hyper corrupt war criminals and mass murdering fascists who imprison, poison and assassinate those who dare criticize them. Everybody in free societies is nauseated by him. Thats why the only ones who praise him are the low paid Russian and Chinese trolls who live on their knees with mouths wide open for the tyrants who oppress their own people.
He was telling his own opinions, not the “truth”.
@@Harry-mu5xl You have to get out of the corporate media to find the truth. Something you haven't done yet.
@@harryseldon6712 "Get out of the corporate media"? Then where would you gather latest news and information, social media? Good luck to you.
The only thing Roger Waters wants to do is wave the white flag.
“War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things: the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth a war, is much worse... A man who has nothing which he is willing to fight for, nothing which he cares more about than he does about his personal safety, is a miserable creature who has no chance of being free, unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." -- John Stuart Mill
18:40, fantastic story about Rogers’s mum & the advice she gave him aged 13.
“You’re going to struggle with things all through your life. My advice is read everything you can. Then, all the heavy lifting is done. They next bit’s easy, Roger. Do the right thing”.
He's been reading a bit too much chinese propaganda unfortunately. He might be to far gone
Roger is absolutely right on China and the Soviet sacrifice during WW2
He's correct about Russia, hasn't a clue about China.
Thank you Michael, even though your opinions went into completely opposite directions, but you still posted this, hats off for that!
I must say Roger Waters opinions on the Ukrain-Russia war totally made me scream as I was saying the exact same thing since the war started. So thanks again for this amazing clip.
I’m convinced this war was instigated by the US to get that $50 billion flowing into the military industrial complex and corrupt politicians’ pockets
So your a naZi ? On LSD like boomer Roger?
Opinions are not facts!! Waters gave facts and truth, Merco gave lies after lies. Dare to call this CNN minion for what he is: a liar for the corporate elite.
Their facts went in different directions too. Roger's facts were true.
@@timontide6404 swallow your own BS Timon, stay the minion you chose to be, people will enjoy laughing at you in public. Shame is joyful to watch. Thank you for the show.
" Do the right thing " obviously no one at cnn ever got told that
The world would be a much better place if there is more people like Roger Waters who is open minded enough to think the Russians and the Chinese aren't sent by the devil.
I'm finnish and I don't hate the Russian people, I hate their government.. same with the Chinese..
Yes the people of Russia and China are hostage to their leaders as much as US citizens are. There are lots of people who unfortunately become bots of these leaders and repeat the propaganda, making the corrupt leaders job easier, but I hold out hope we may start to break through this more.
We have no particular issue with the Chinese or Russian people, just their rulers.
@@jyutzler but 1. you only know them thru, mainly, western media which is biased and propaganda driven. 2. what's the job of these rulers/governments, is it to look after the interest of it's own people and country, or to please the West? because at least 70-80% of Chinese love their own government.
@@kafkakafka516 Wait, you're going to lecture me about western media when Chinese and Russian media is literally controlled by their governments? Come on. I'm not going to argue with Roger when he calls out the West's problems but I completely agree with Smerconish when he says Roger is giving Russia and China a pass. And let's face it, people aren't exactly looking to move to those places.
Smart man - both men really - but I don't like to think that Roger's default position on world affairs is what Smerconish (almost) says it is, which is that "the West" is always at fault, always the aggressor, always wrong. Never a liberator, always nefarious. It's true there is a mountain of evidence that America has inflicted great suffering around the world, and used a "Might Makes Right" approach all too often to get what it wants. But there's also evidence that America has done enormous good in the world as well.
Wow a man who knows what’s going on and dares to speak.
Yet he has no problem enjoying the fruits of American diplomacy from his mansion in the Hamptons
@@Ck-zk3we This kind of reaction is the protection of self delusion. Your mind has been broken. In America we dont do diplomacy, we do brute force and bullying. I wish you luck with your mental problems and brain washing
@@Ck-zk3we Especially as he don't need no education.
@@Ck-zk3we Your giving to much credit to the diplomats. More like hard work and creatively.
indeed very unusual . try this in Scandinavia and you will be torn up !
Geez, when American talking about human rights and spreading ''democracy" in every corner of the world, it makes my blood boil. Who gave you the right, America? Mind your own business. Thank you, Roger Waters for speaking the truth.
ROTFLOL! Yes, civil rights are "evil" and mass murdering, hyper corrupt war criminals like Putin and Xi are "good"! LOL!!! What raised you? A forrest animal?
Amen
For each to mind his own business, I fully agree, Putin should be well inspired by those wise words more than anyone else in those complicated times.
It would be great if America did spread democracy and human rights to the world. Instead, the US is only interested in dominating world markets.
@@pierrevanhalteren5733 killing Russian speaking ppl is his duty to stop! Don't fuck with Slav
So true about Ukraine war…. And Hilarious , Roger: “Which country did Chinese invaded or slaughtered ever ?” Michael: “ Their own”
😂😂seriously ?! There is an old Chinese saying : if you want to blame someone , there are always excuses
there has been decades of anti communist and anti China propaganda in the west. The people here don't even recognize their own racism. it's sad and i hope it changes before the capitalist class starts WW3.
what do you know about ukrainian-russian history? this war is going on for over 300 years. neither NATO nor Minsk agreements have nothing to do with it.
I salute Michael for posting the full uncut interview. I would echo Roger that Michael needs to read more, and more than just western mainstream media. In today's global world, diversity means hearing from sources all over the world.
I agree whole heartedly with Roger.
That may be a problem. Why not think for yourself?
@@AussieTVMusic He said he agrees They share the common thought . Do you think?
@@AussieTVMusic , I do think for myself, I just happen to agree entirely with what Roger said, is that a problem for you?
and now look at the million Iraqis that did NOT get killed in the war. Biased study and far from all others. More importantly more than 80% of those deaths weren't by US forces.
@@chrisgarret3285 Utter crap.
Nice!! Been waiting all weekend for this release and it did not disappoint. It would be phenomenal to get a longer interview with him.
This video is already the most viewed on Smerconish's channel, by far.
Credit to these two for heated yet polite and understanding and courteous conversation.
What more is needed? Its obvious that Waters is a flaming hypocrite who got rich off and lives safely in a free society while praising hyper corrupt war criminals and mass murdering fascists who imprison, poison and assassinate those who dare criticize them. Everybody in free societies is nauseated by him. Thats why the only ones who praise him are the low paid Russian and Chinese trolls who live on their knees with mouths wide open for the tyrants who oppress their own people.
Check out his super long interview with Joe Rogan
Roger, thank you!!!! Thank you for educating your interviewer. He definitely has his own propaganda and prejudices without doing the proper work like you. Many more years to you brother!
Yes ignoring genocide, props brotha!
HAAAA!
@@shaund4978 what genocide? A million dead Iraqis?
He mentioned Yemen and Palestine.
He mentioned Yemen and Palestine
That’s not the full interview. So disingenuous. The Minsk agreements. Look it up. The fact it was edited out speaks volumes.
I m so glad Roger remembered to mentioned Ecuadorians . He is one the few artists who is not just another moron trying to look at the real world from their own bubble of old assumptions. Muchas gracias Roger.
I live in the US and it is hard to see outside that bubble, and I think it is that way for most wherever they live because legacy (corporate or other status quo controllers) media and leaders get to control the narrative. But I have faith in my instincts and humanity at large when I hear people speak openly and honestly. We are all manipulated, we are all told partial truths at best. We are all brothers and sisters and by nature and want to better our lives for ourselves and each other too. Why would we ever want to do otherwise? We all have to look outside the constraints and divisions put on us by the status quo who profit from the past inequalities and injustices. I am not the enemy of any of my fellow human beings, not intentionally at least. I know what is right and wrong before any institution needs to tell me. Best of luck to you in Ecuador my friend, and I will try for the best here as well! :) The people of the world need to understand the unprecedented level of manipulation going on made possible by technology, and see through to the underlying real motives dividing us, which ultimately hurt us all.
@@madmonk66 thanks for your honesty, I am every day more glad I was borned and raised here and love my land and people. Agree 100% people on top most of them anyway are psychopaths with power. But, we are close to coming to terms with Nature soon. Better prepare your souls spirit for it because it will be tough. Bests saludos
You gotta have a clear unbiased sense of culture, history in order to be a true musician. Thanks Roger for speaking out. Great interview.
Do you mean he s NOT a musician then :)
@@recuerdos2457 go read some books. Don’t get brainwashed by your msm.
As a musician myself, i have to tell you that this is sadly not often the case. In fact concious people who cut through the propaganda B.S. and think for themselves, are rare among musicians as much as among other groups or professions. Even extremely talented and sensitive artists like Sting or Stevie Wonder, for example, are totally clueless on the Russian Ukraine situation.
@@michaelp9061 I have a book for you to read ( if you can read) -- it’s called The Little Black Book of Communism
@@musamusashi you mean the situation where a superpower bully invaded it’s neighbor murdering hundreds of thousands?
As a Chinese citizen, I don’t understand where you guys get the idea of us being slaughtered by our own gvt, sure the CCP did make some terrible mistakes before, but now I would say the people are living in good condition, some say we are oppressed by our gvt, but no, our gvt actually provides a lot of social welfare for us, they listen to our comments, I don’t know why the Western media made China sounds like North Korea, I have a lot of Taiwanese friends, they are treated equally in China as we all do. So please, before you criticize a country, go and actually be there yourself and live there and THEN you will have the idea of what’s real and what’s not
You earn 1,000 social credits for your positive comments.👍
@@beeragainsthumanity1420 You have shown your ignorance on China by saying that. What social credit? No one in China lives by that.
BECAUSE YOU ARE THE BIGGEST COMPETITION!!!
Sure China is not like North Korea but critizing the government with a loud voice still get people in trouble and that's alot different than most countries in the world. The controls over all culture aspects are still too tight. Individuals sacrifice too much for the collective good. I would say it is bearable but bearly.
@@beeragainsthumanity1420 bruh, I know it’s a meme and I kinda find it funny, but pls don’t take it serious, we do have a social credit system in China, but it’s for BUSINESS, for example, if a business asked banks for loans and don’t pay back in time, they will have a low credit, and later on banks might not lend them any loans or even shut down the business if they can’t be trusted
The show is worth every penny. One of the very best shows I've ever seen. Roger Waters, thank you!
Really ??? We had “the dark side of the moon” now we have “the dark side of Roger Waters”.
Thank you for that I will buy a ticket on Monday selling at the 02 London for June 2023.
Now you know why Roger writes great music ahead of his time, he has wisdom and sharp sense of observation of the world we live in and reflect.
Puhleeeeease
Don't make me puke
If you think quick three sentence explanations and critiques address the complex and numerous problems of the modern world, you are (like Mr. Waters) dreaming. Hippy wisdom won’t cut it in a world gone mad.
@@TheEleatic If you have exactly nothing to contribute to the REAL solution, .. SILENCE is priceless !!!
He is a musician. He is great and acknowledged. Nevertheless I write music too, and one feedback I got from a highly respected poet was that I on occasion was just listing things. OK, it is easier, not such a heavy creative process. My guess is that Rogers has fallen for it too. Even though he is great, he is still human, and I do not think he is that deeply into Russian culture, to be able to judge this. We are a peace-generation, and of course, some see everything through the lense of Western fault. In this situation I see that the West is actually holding back a lot. The Russians also claim that they could do a lot worse. Keeping sane as an artist, not just showing off opinions is nevertheless a challenge these times. What is happening is horrifying, but the solution is not just to hand Ukraine over to the wild bear.
Whilst I agree with much of Roger's politican reasoning and the gist of his argument, he is slightly naive on human rights and China. And I'd put to him the term 'passive aggression' which is something China has perfected. He said China has never invaded any country or taken part in any major conflicts: Tibet? Vietnam? Korea? China took over Tibet, an entire nation. Tibet didn't resist and not a single bullet was fired, but they took over a country by threat of force and began replacing its culture none the less. China was instrumental in the Korean war and has backed North Korea (one of the most evil regimes on earth that has zero human rights) to this day. Vietnam, China backed the Communists and fought a proxy war against the US along with USSR. China has an appalling human rights record in its own country. Millions died during the time of Chairman Mao. More recently, China has attacked its own Muslim community and puts thousands and thousands in prison camps or re-education camps to de-Islamify them. China promised to respect the independence and democracy of Hong Kong during the 1998-1999 hand-over from Britain, but has slowly erroded the rights of Hong Kong Chinese and even attacks or imprisons them when they protest so they now hold up blank sheets of paper, same as people do in mainland China. Taiwan is a democracy that wishes to be self-governed independent of China, but China is saying is must be re-unified with China by choice or by force. A basic fundamental human right is the right to self-determination of a people. The right to choose and elect a government. China doesn't hold to that principle. It's one of the countries that hasn't signed the Human Rights Charter.
But all that said, even my own country the UK is far from perfect on human rights, despite being a founding signature to the UNHR Charter. People are imprisoned here for political incorrectness, wrong thinking or expression. Freedom of speech is restricted. Freedom of political association is restricted. Freedom of assembly and the right to protest is restricted. Just to different levels, but not unlike China in many ways if you go in a direction the government doesn't like.
Roger is correct about the Russian Ukraine situation. Most people have absolutely no idea how, why or when this conflict started and the long diplomatic and legal struggle Russia went through before it got to the stage of Putin using full Russian military intervention on Ukraine. And I don't even think he even expected it to be a war. He expected no resistance and the government to fall quite quickly just by a show of overwhelming Russian force. His intelligence and calculations were flawed and things quickly spiralled out of control. Suddenly the Western world has turned on Russia and isolated it economically. Russia is now in a proxy-war with a US/Western NATO alliance basically, with Ukraine being used to fight a war on Russia for them. Ukraine is the battle-ground for a power struggle between the West and Russia, just as it was 170 years ago in the Crimean War.
The path towards Russia deciding to take military action on Ukraine against a government it considered hostile to Russian people and Russia itself started right back in 2008 as Roger said. With limited intervention in Dombas using militias to back Russian separatists who were being supressed and killed. Then it escalated from there.
The Minsk Agreements of 2014 and 2015 were a final diplomatic international attempt to resolve these issues between Ukraine and Russia, and the West brokered that and co-signed. In those agreements, Ukraine conceded that Crimea was part of the Russian Federation, respected the referendum of the majority ethnic Russian population to be identified as Russian nationals, and it addressed the Russian separatist problems in the three Dombas regions, that were being socially, politically marginalised and attacked by the Ukranian government. Both sides, Russia and Ukraine have breached the Minsk Agreements, but Ukraine more so in stating Crimea is part of Ukraine and they intend to take it by force, when they conceded it as Russian Federation territory in an international agreement and agreed to respect the referendum outcome. Crimea has been part of Russia for 199 years, Ukraine has absolutely no legal basis to claim Crimea is part of Ukraine. To Russia, that's a declaration of war on Russia itself.
So why are people perplexed that Russia has such an anti-Western position and decided it had no option left but to take military action against Ukraine, a government that violated two international agreements, had become hostile towards ethnic Russian people and the Russian State itself? Russian tried to settle its issues with Ukraine by every diplomatic and legal way possible, and the West was part of that process, but is now arming Ukraine instead of saying, hold on, we had an agreement here, what went wrong, let's sit down and work this out...people talk about finding a peaceful resolution, there is one the Minsk Agreement II. If both sides just kept to their word and the international community kept to its word, the war could end. What Russia is asking for is not unreasonable.Yes it's gone too far and the Special Military Operation has gone completely out of control and nobody can excuse what Putin and Russia is doing, but they feel betrayed, ignored and supressed by the West who only follows the rule of law, and democracy when it suits their own interests...there's a very hypocritical double-standard going on by the West when it comes to Western democracy and interests, and Russia's.
When it's Russia's interests, nobody cares. There is also still a lot of corruption in Ukraine. Even the current President has dubious involvment with a Russian company, and Ukranian Oligarch billionaires (yes they exist, but no news reports on that!) with tens of millions of dollars held by him and others close to him, using off-shore companies in tax-havens that hold multi-million pound properties in the UK and Europe. That may shock some people, but it's true. Google it.
Everything isn't black and white, good guy, bad guy as the media presents it. They like to dumb-down things for the masses. Like Roger said, it's cause and effect. There's always a reason behind the effects, a history and a story. We're only seeing the effects and one side of the story. Why is the West keeping the war going in Ukraine and sending more and more arms? Why aren't they trying to make every effort to reach a diplomatic resolution with Russia? Why didn't this process start when the tanks were lined up before a single shot was fired? Why were France's efforts dismissed?
We hear 'Russia must be defeated, its military degraded' over and over. How do you think Russian's feel hearing that? Are they likely to trust or like the West? Like Roger said, how would the US feel, if China started building up a global military coalition around the world and put nukes and military bases with 100,000 troops on the Mexico border and around the world by US interests? Look what happened when the USSR put nuclear missiles on Cuba, we very nearly had a nuclear WWIII! And yet Russia is expected to tolerate Ukraine becoming a NATO possibly nuclear armed state with an antagonistic government on its border, and Finland with a 1,000km border being another US base and NATO country? And people are alarmed when Russia re-assets its nuclear deterrent position. It's called nuclear threats and blackmail. Yet there are nuclear bases all over Europe with missiles pointed at Russia and nuclear armed submarines around Russia. The US conducted several nuclear tests in the Indian ocean, nobody said a thing. Russia tests a nuclear missile everyone is critical.
If we want peace, we need to de-escalate tensions, not escalate them. Nearly everything the US and NATO does seems to esalate and create tensions. Everyone is an enemy or threat if they have a different style of government, but sadly the world isn't perfect and neither is the US itself.
Is arming Taiwan helping ease tensions with China? Or sending spy planes over China and doing training exrcises in the South China Sea and putting the US navy fleets there helping China-US relations? Constant negative news about China and absurd stories about them being the number one threat, intent on taking over the world and their military exceeding the US in a few years...China is preparing to invade Taiwan real soon, when China says the opposite..it has no intention or desire to invade Taiwan, it seeks peaceful re-unification but must show its strength, capability and willingness to defend itself also, just as the US does, only right on China's doorstep. China's military won't achieve even parity with the US military until 2050 at the current levels even if the US military doesn't expand further, according to China. China doesn't want to be a military super-power to rival the US and has no global ambitions to challenge NATO. It just wants to be able to defend itself against a possible US/Western attack and protect its regional interests and space. That's China's official stated position, but that's not what's reported.
The world isn't perfect and sadly not all countries respect human rights or the rule of international law fully. However using aggression to solve that won't make it better or the world safer. That's a lesson we've learned over and over. Look at the state of Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan and many other countries now after decades of US-led regime changes. How many major regime changes has Russia been involved in by comparison post-USSR, or China? Who is the main global aggressor from the Russian, Chinese, India and North Korea prospective? Perhaps that's why they feel threatened, maybe they'll be next to be invaded!
"if you want to understand the present situation, then look at past events. If you want to consider future outcomes, consider the present actions." - Buddhist wisdom.
Crikey! I read ALL of that & agreed with almost all of it (as well as learning a couple of things). Global politics, socio-economics, fiscal & foreign policy, etc. ISN’T exactly something that is easily understood, let alone convivially debated, lol. ‘Our Rog’ has a platform & uses it to the best of his ability with, I believe, the best of intentions. One can’t say fairer than that. He’s not a bad fella, eh! Plus he’s made some fucking cracking albums.
Roger Waters, I love you, I respect You .You are the face of Honesty and Integrity. Thanks, My Champion.
Roger is one of the few artists that step up. If you remove activism and political consciousness from art, it becomes sterile in a sort of way. Political activism results from an impulse of the soul that is not comfortable with injustice.
sure, just keep telling yourself that.
So music cant be about love or human emotions? It HAS to be about Politics?
@@thomascars1 of course it can. Read better what i wrote
"Perceived injustice" is the correct wording. The man is as wrong as he can be. I mean, the Soviets saved the world from National Socialism? Really? The Soviets who had a peace pact (Ribbentrop-Molotov) with them and were separating Poland among them and performed massacres like the one in Katyn forest? The Soviets who at the same time invaded Finland? The Soviets who, without American aid they wouldn't stand a chance against the Germans? The guy doesn't know what he's talking about. And then this "unfettered capitalism" statement! Where did he see that? If there is a reality today is OVEREGULATED capitalism (which creates many of the current lobbying problems). The man is so wrong it hurts to listen to him!
@@C_R_O_M________ brother why us waited so much time to go to war against germany. Why they did it only when the soviets were entering Berlin? Less hollywood movies brother.
Michael, thanks for posting the full video, it's such a shame that CNN skipped the important parts but not surprising. Rather than reading, listening to Roger would help a lot, he's a brilliant man and tells it straight