They should do it. I love Nihongo but i am one of those who dislike v shape ergonomic keyboards. Oddly enough i also grew up as an ikjl player (right hand on the arrow keys/ikjl) which means the tilt would be very unnatural for me, i also got the mixbox 2.0 and its already perfect except for the 30mm buttons being too big. So hopefully they give us both tilted and non tilted option too and the 24mm buttons version.
Is it possible to customize what switches are available? Personally, I would like Logitech Romer-G, Razer Orange, or Cherry MX Brown, so I can have that tactile feedback.
The mixbox is all fun and games until you see the price tag: 349.99$ with shipping: 400$ have fun with a controller which is more expensive than the console itself (by the time you are seeing this, theres a big chance that i have already bought one myself)
John Dela Cruz it’s easier in some ways to bring a mixbox to a friend’s. Even playing on a PC. It’s easier to setup than keyboard. What if you both play keyboard? Tournaments will not run actual keyboards. Their price is ridiculous, though. It shouldn’t cost that much to put 4 mechanical keys to represent directions and the regular arcade stuff.
@@davida7229 it’s not cheap, because of the PCB, wiring harnesses, all the cables, Cherry MX Switches, Sanwa parts. Thing is they are expensive, because they will indefinitely last you forever.
Seems like the small angle change is a huge improvement of quality of life and comfort. Very cool looking! I can always appreciate a company that doesn't try to censor people and listens to constructive criticism to improve their product. Everybody wins.
I took a look at their online shop and was quite excited when I saw the "Mixbox -12 Reverse Universal Edition". It's rare to see anyone make a reverse controller at all. It's still not the perfect controller for me, since I've grown up playing PC games with the keypad while laying my thumb on the down button instead of moving my middle finger around. I would need the down key to be slightly farther down than where it is so it wouldn't be such a tight squeeze when placing the thumb over it. I currently play on a custom controller made out of Sanwa buttons and a PS360+ PCB. The PCB does not have L3, R3 and definitely no Dualshock 4 touchpad. It has some funny input combinations to switch between D-pad and thumbsticks, which I'd love to replace with a physical switch, but can't. And it's biggest issue is that is uses a USB type B output, which is incredibly loose. I've disconnected during gameplay countless times just because USB type B connectors tend to fall out easily. On the other hand, the parts for my controller cost me less than $170. The Mixbox -12 Reverse Universal Edition costs $350, which is a lot more. Double tapping in Street Fighter isn't something that should be demonstrated with target combos. It's a technique to increase the chance of performing 1-frame links, which were very common in SF games up to 4. The most basic example would be hitting crouching medium punch twice with Guile. SFV replaced those with 3-frame links, which can be easily achieved by mashing fast enough. 15:57 I would love to see you draw your own Mixbox artwork. I think a tutorial on how to get everything the right size for printing would be awesome. 18:14 Ending the 360 with a diagonal up+back actually makes it harder and it forces you to rush the action. The best way is to do a half circle motion, going back to neutral and then hitting up and attack at the same time. For 720, I input up+forward, make one full rotation while in the air and then do the same thing I do for a 360.
It looks gorgeous and stylish. Switch being a secondary console for most of us, it's great that's compatible with both consoles. And you really got me intrigued about trying a hitbox eventually
i really dont know why u dont have more subs, i like ur style of video a lot (especially the making coffe ones) keep up with the good work friend :) ps: the arcade keyboard is sick
I use a split keyboard that lets you put back together straight. While I usually keep it straight when typing, I love tilting the left side when gaming. Its way more relaxing to keep my hand in position.
I'd like to see a version with a space bar for jump instead of an up key since you don't have to share a finger for up and down. But I guess that's what keeps this out of hitbox territory.
Oooh, thats an interesting looking stick. If I were to give any suggestions, it would be: -Have another down button where your thumb would rest in respect the WASD buttons, kinda like a mini space bar. -make the cable detachable As for a bonus, they could allow for easier customization by inserting a button-switch that opens the system up like the MadCatz TE2+ or the Razor Panthera.
Legit been wanting a MixBox for quite some times, as i play Tekken7 on pc. Inputting commands felt easier on keyboards for me, so the fact that mixbox uses cherryMX switches for the directions is an interesting deal. Thanks for the overview, NihongoGamer!
11:42 being a guitar player for 14 years hearing this convinced me to give this box a try when I can afford it. I feel like it would give certain musicians that play fighting games an advantage
FEEDBACK: If the Mix Devs are reading this, there is something u guys have to DEFINITELY WORK ON, its the PRICE! 200€+70€ for shipping + Customs +(something in between +50€) ... ITS INSANELY OVER-PRICE! -COMMENT- Has for the 2x360º Zangief, that's all about how fast you can use all ur 3 finger when doing a single punch to lock down ur Character while u perform it. Or u may also lock ur fingers tight in a position that can allow you to perform a circle by rotates ur wrist around those buttons without moving ur fingers, but that's something that even I never tried for. PS: I might be wrong, but I think once u done with the the 1st circle, you might be able to leave ur finger pressing one last key to short the inputs on the 2nd rotation.
I bought this for mortal kombat, because I enjoy how quickly and easily I can do special moves and cancels with the D-pad, and I enjoy the ease to pulling off combos with arcade buttons. I know keyboard arrows arent the same as a d-pad but they basically work the same. Except cherry switches are way more responsive than the stock dpad.
Just recently got my first arcade stick and modded it with sanwa parts and I love it, even with the learning curve that comes with a stick. I know I can do better with a pad but the fun experience I'm having with it far outweighs the difficulty of learning to play with a stick. I use it on PC because I am primarily a keyboard and mouse gamer because I'm mainly a first person shooter player than anything. I could really see this hitbox controller being really effective for someone like me with experience mostly with WASD controls. The angle of the keys looks like a much needed improvement. I play games like overwatch with my keyboard at a slight angle and having the buttons without an angle has an esthetically pleasing look but not very ergonomical. I agree that making the buttons higher up on the controller is a good idea. Maybe for the next version of the controller the ppl designing it can experiment with that. I really like the direction in which this controller is going and if the company can make a version at a bugdet price for us gamers with a tighter wallet I can see this as a buy in the future. Lastly I am a mechanical switch snob and the choice of cherry mx switches for the controller would be an awesome addition. I use cherry mx blue switches and having the choice for red, blue, brown, ect. Cherry mx switches would be great.
Yup I use WASD and then the number pad on the right for attacks. I definitely liked the MixBox, but I may be more used to wasd movement from years of PC gaming. It may take some getting used to for people who haven't done much gaming with a keyboard.
I feel like you can use your pointer and middle finger instead of your ring finger for either qcf or qcb. The only thing I'd be worried about is not realizing which key is the middle one, but they can just do what normal keyboards do with the F and J key on the home row for a physical piece to tell you which key you're pressing.
I have one. My biggest complaint is the use of 30mm buttons. They should use 24mm so it feels closer LIKE the keyboard its trying to simulate. The 30mm size basically rendered the furthest 2 buttons useless to me. Most keyboard users would be resting their 3 fingers on three buttons. I play on the hitbox, mixbox and fighting edge btw.
See I'm guessing you might have small hands because the 30mm buttons are one of the reasons I love my mixbox I used to play on keyboard when I was younger but my manhands make that uncomfortably cramped nowadays I can hit the the furthest buttons with my pinky finger easily plus it makes it easier for my brain to switch between the mixbox and a regular stick as the button layout is the same
@@DaRealJGRIF i don't think the hand size matters... I have huge hands and i prefer 24mm button for hitbox or mixbox style controller (even tho i mostly play with standard layout on classic sticks)
So one thing about the angle is that it makes reverse hands a bit tougher. Some might switch hands when facing left to compensate for the ring finger weakness issue. I dunno how many people play reverse hands, but I have seen people do it for Metal Slug arcade machines and it doesn't seem too hard to learn.
Do want. I've been trying to use a Fightstick for DBZF. But I've had a pretty bad time, even using a good stick. I think this is the bridge for me to get into fighting games. I've wanted a mixbox for a while, but it always looked a bit rough. This new one looks clean.
Me: I'm pretty bad at these types of games but the controller looks cool *NihongoGamer combos faster than the eye can see* Me: Oh I have to be God. That's probably why I'm bad
That is the perfect stick for me cause i am a pad player but i learned and actually liked and preferred the keyboard after i got used to it so im saying the game gods and mixbox has answered my prayers all i can say is it would be great if mixbox was donating a mixbox or sponsored gamers that are heavy keyboard warriors can get a shot with one of these great mixbox sticks(blue one ) so yes in short it would be great if they were donating to some special player ... Like me lol
Really love mix box and how innovative they are. And the tilted keys seem to be a very nice feature for better ergonomics Kinda wanna get one myself but I'm not very rich HOWEVER I can make one
I bought one of these, the PCB is cable tied to a piece of plast in which a single hole is drilled through and a nut and bolt holding it down This was snapped. Not a delivery error, as the case (the best aspect of the device) is metal. Though the case was terribly protecxted with loose torn pieces of polystyrene wedged in and around the box. The left arrow key was broken as well, this required changing. Description on the product is vague to mislead you into believing it's full sanwa, that only the face buttons were sanwa (I am still unsure if this is the case, as they're taller than any other sanwa I have used before) As per their terms and conditions I can get a full refund barring the £30 tax I paid, and the return shipping of £40 and any other taxes returning to China (even though it's all their fault) Though the warranty only exists in the US, dunno how that'll hold up legally, tho. As a collector I STRONGLY advise against this, the unit is way too expensive for what it is at $250. Do not fall for the hype. Learn from my mistake.
Finally an Arcade controller for someone who always preffered Keyboard for fighting games. To be honest though, I would replace Sanwa style buttons with keys as well...
They give people exactly what they want ? Well I want one of those arcade controller!! On a more serious note, I think that this controller look really good but the tilt looks a little bit scary because I can't really tell if I will feal confortable using one. As I recently started considering buying an arcade controller I might as well give this one a try!
WOW! Does it really have Brook Universal inside? That's great because it is already legal at most tournaments and frequently gets firmware updates (recently added support for NeoGeo Mini for example) I'd like them to send one to Jasen's Customs so he can do a "breaking down the stick" video (he rates the ease of customizing sticks for modders)!
The Brook is a straightforward option and a recognised brand now so it's the obvious choice. As far as a teardown goes I'm not sure what you'd expect to see since Brook PCBs are designed to have very little assembly lol
Hi Nihongogamer, it's been a month+ since you got your mixbox, have you use it extensively? What is your take for mixbox vs stick? I am in a dilemma as it is so expensive. And how easy to open the metal case to swap parts/replace faulty component? Thank you.
Yeah the non universal mixbox 12 is $250, universal edition is $350, plus $70 shipping, and it takes like a month minimum to arrive. I bought one but only because I have a lot of disposable income and tekken is my hobby, but even I wouldn’t recommend it for the price. Just get a hitbox, might take a bit of getting used to but it’s effectively the same thing for less price. Not to mention you can beat the hell out of a arcade button, don’t know if the same can be said for a key switch. I don’t play sf so I can’t say what the mixbox is good for on that game, but in tekken, characters that use instant while running moves like dragunov have amazing consistency on mixbox. Conversely, characters like devil Jin, that need to input 2 buttons on the exact same frame, are better on hitbox. All in all though, the mixbox and hitbox are both basically perfect controllers for tekken at least, it just comes down to which you prefer.
If this uses a Brook, I believe you can do analog emulation through some combination of buttons to change the behavior of the directional keys. Wonder if when this is going to be available?
Since I have the original mixbox... I often use this on tekken 7 its superb And for kof 14 as well those ⬇️↙️⬅️↙️⬇️↘️➡️ moves is much better than stick in my opinion...
I said this in another Mixbox video, but I would like to mention it again: More switch options. Most mechanical keyboards offer 3 or more switch options, so I would like to see Mixbox provide more than red switches, such as blue (my favorite) and browns.
i build one a little bit ago like one that Daigo did that got banned recently, it probably should have no way for controllers to emulate that set up even wit a ps4 controller where they can use the joystick input as well. To compare the controller to his hitbox is like comparing apples to bricks.
Looks good, I really want to see the insides though. I seriously love the blue theme on this. If I had to suggest something, perhaps make it open like the Razer Panthera? And also, detachable cables.
I would love a mixbox stick like that, but the keys being on the right, i've always played fighting games with the arrows of the keyboard instead of WASD, it would be awesome
hey :D! i'm actually a keyboard player and believe it or not, i found a way around the problem with the ring finger XD. even tough it may look uncomfortable, once you get used to it, it really helps, and is actually changing the position of your fingers. that means to do a fire ball, i do from middle to index, BUT to do a backuards fireball, i actually do from index to middle finger. and the same with lots of motions. at this point i'm actually playing fighting games with only 2 fingers XD. i hope this can help you with your ring finger problem
Honestly I play fighter with a controller well the d-pad really but I think the mix box would be good for players like me. Although for Tekken and street fighter I love using a arcade stick
Sanwa has at least 2 versions when it comes to buttons that i know of. Standard and silent, the later which have a more firm and less noise making feel to it.
My left hand doesn’t feel tired, but like any keyboard you need to be extra careful that you don’t tense up your arm since it’s in a fixed position for a long time
It would be nice to have a stick/wasd button option like a modern thumbstick game pad has. Otherwise I still think the stick is the most versatile between character moves that need the half circle motions.
My suggestions would probably have to do with customization. having swapable key switches would be my main thing. Some people prefer reds, blues, clears, etc.
Looks fine, can't really understand the difference from watching the video but it would be nice if they made one were you coud simply swap the angles to your personal favorite.
My only concern with something like the Mixbox is if the keys start to malfunction, how hard is it to replace them yourself? They Are soldered in, right? That would be one advantage of owning a Hitbox or traditional arcade stick over the Mixbox, from what I can tell.
Yeah they are soldered in. But you shouldn't be in a need to change the switches tbh. But if you want you can from one switch to another without needing to resolder, as you can just pop out the keys and take them apart and change the springs and such to fit your need.
I am very interested in this controller. It supports 6 different systems! :O and PC/Steam I am assuming? I don't have the money for it currently. However I really like this concept. I just hope they have more colors in the future. Also I am hoping in the future you can customize the key boards for not only different color buttons but replacing the keyboards if they get worn out.
These mixboxes seem really great, but that ring finger problem you mentioned would probably give me more trouble, despite me being trash at fighting games
Thanks to this video I created my own box and it is a beauty, the best thing I have used in my life, it depends a lot on tastes but I prefer my box first and I have tried all kinds of arcade sticks,or controllers, I invite you to create one or buy it It has no waste
easily works for pc there is a cheaper ps4 pc version but the one that works for everthing is 350 if I could try out one it might be for me but to be stuck with a 250 dollar stick if it doesnt work for me is a hard sell as re selling a mix box would be easier said then done since its not a standard arcade stick
I'd prefer an actual stick if they could have both with the option for analog emulation not sure how the spacing would work but some games benefit from WASD while others control better with a full stick especially when I can swing my hand in a circle more easily then pressing offset keys in a particular order I tend to miss the S key quite alot. If possible I'd like an all in one controller I could use in conjunction with a mouse.
I actually played keyboard before stick but quickly switched to pad shortly after lol I’d love it if there was a way I could try it but not commit to it like with the aswd style if they had a conjoined version with a stick too I’d be more open to it. Money in the upwards of 300 bucks is a lot for a long shot. For those that really enjoy it and really into it I’m glad they have the option
Say, I use arrow keys and ASDZXC for as my layout because my left hand fingers are not good with reverse motions, would that affect my performance on stick?
Just asking because switching is pretty much required as half circles are a real chore (I slide my finger across the keys, heh), and I don't think a reversed Hitbox or Mixbox has reasons to exist. Thanks for the answer.
@@mystic_guardian Mystic_Guardian The closest thing I've tried is a mechanical keyboard, and it worked well on right handed. Honestly I might just not have practiced enough with my left fingers, though it's the way I used to do it in the past. Trying different methods should be the best way to go. A stick seems to be a more universal solution, and pad is out of the question.
Surprisingly I always play Tekken 7 on my PC casual or competitive using a Mechanical Keyboard and using the directional Pad instead of Analog on the PS4, because Tekken 7 and my main is better with a Keyboard/DS4 directional layout to execute it's combo. But when i switch to either DBFZ/KOF 14 using the Keyboard/DS4 Directional Pad is a nightmare so have to revert to my Hori Fight Stick Mini. It really depends on your personal style of play. I prefer Tekken 7 using directional pad but outside Tekken 7 Joystick is the best solution.
The mixbox is cool. The biggest problem is the price. It cost around $320 to get one shipped to the US and that's for the base model. I can save over $100 if I get a hitbox instead.
The Brook Universal is $100 by itself, I spent more than this building my own stick yet these guys did all the work so I think it is fair (not a bargain, but fair)
falconxblast Actually I’ve found the board for $80 online not a huge difference but it’s not quite 100. Plus the brooks works on 360, Xbox One, PS3/4, Switch and PC so def more bang for your buck.
15x Sanswa 30 + 4x Cherry Red = ~$47.50 And those are retail prices from Focus Attack, if they're buying bulk their unit cost would come down. So you're paying roughly $200 for the casing, R&D and profit margin. Up to you if that's a fair price to pay.
@@falconxblast it's fair, but it's a lot if that makes sense lol. Even the regular non-universal ones are more expensive than most standard sticks. That may still be reasonable for what it is you're getting, but it makes it harder to pull the trigger.
Hey Nihongo Gamer. I was wondering where can I get replacements for the wires on the cherry switches? I have the original version of the mixbox arcade stick and I was attempting to mod the keys and one of the wires broke.
Maybe they can put the keypad on a rotating surface that allows you to adjust a specific angle and lock it in that angle.
That was one of my suggestions when they sent me the first model but I’m guessing they couldn’t find a way to lock it in place securely enough
Hey I'm just putting the idea out there that's all :)
well does it matter if its like 15 or 20 bucks more because of that gimmick?
That’s way to advanced
They should do it. I love Nihongo but i am one of those who dislike v shape ergonomic keyboards. Oddly enough i also grew up as an ikjl player (right hand on the arrow keys/ikjl) which means the tilt would be very unnatural for me, i also got the mixbox 2.0 and its already perfect except for the 30mm buttons being too big. So hopefully they give us both tilted and non tilted option too and the 24mm buttons version.
A fightstick with a keyboard WASD and 8 arcade buttons...
It's a fightboard.
or a keyboard with 8 fightstick buttons, a key... board
Graham Murray Carl and shaggy struck doing the Macarena
Look it up.
Your a genius
Thank you so much for the unboxing NihongoGamer ! It is Mixbox ‘s Honor all time !
What the average delivery time in the US?
I also agree with moving the WASD keys up by about 2cm
Is it possible to customize what switches are available? Personally, I would like Logitech Romer-G, Razer Orange, or Cherry MX Brown, so I can have that tactile feedback.
I only recently got into fighting games but I'm curious to see how i'd like the arrow keys in place of a stick
I plan on getting one, but do you have different colors? I plan on getting one to curb my dashing issues in DBFZ.
The mixbox is all fun and games until you see the price tag: 349.99$
with shipping: 400$
have fun with a controller which is more expensive than the console itself
(by the time you are seeing this, theres a big chance that i have already bought one myself)
sprite & fanta did you buy it yet
John Dela Cruz it’s easier in some ways to bring a mixbox to a friend’s. Even playing on a PC. It’s easier to setup than keyboard. What if you both play keyboard? Tournaments will not run actual keyboards. Their price is ridiculous, though. It shouldn’t cost that much to put 4 mechanical keys to represent directions and the regular arcade stuff.
@@chronology556 how much are hit boxes then?
@@davida7229 it’s not cheap, because of the PCB, wiring harnesses, all the cables, Cherry MX Switches, Sanwa parts. Thing is they are expensive, because they will indefinitely last you forever.
I watch this guys videos before buying a stick. Keep sending them to him
Has keys but does that make it a stick? *Twilight zone theme*
The actual correct term is "stickless arcade controller" but everyone's going to call it a stick anyway.
I have recently garnered an interested in this type of stick. Thanks for profiling it.
Seems like the small angle change is a huge improvement of quality of life and comfort. Very cool looking! I can always appreciate a company that doesn't try to censor people and listens to constructive criticism to improve their product. Everybody wins.
I took a look at their online shop and was quite excited when I saw the "Mixbox -12 Reverse Universal Edition". It's rare to see anyone make a reverse controller at all.
It's still not the perfect controller for me, since I've grown up playing PC games with the keypad while laying my thumb on the down button instead of moving my middle finger around. I would need the down key to be slightly farther down than where it is so it wouldn't be such a tight squeeze when placing the thumb over it.
I currently play on a custom controller made out of Sanwa buttons and a PS360+ PCB. The PCB does not have L3, R3 and definitely no Dualshock 4 touchpad. It has some funny input combinations to switch between D-pad and thumbsticks, which I'd love to replace with a physical switch, but can't. And it's biggest issue is that is uses a USB type B output, which is incredibly loose. I've disconnected during gameplay countless times just because USB type B connectors tend to fall out easily.
On the other hand, the parts for my controller cost me less than $170. The Mixbox -12 Reverse Universal Edition costs $350, which is a lot more.
Double tapping in Street Fighter isn't something that should be demonstrated with target combos. It's a technique to increase the chance of performing 1-frame links, which were very common in SF games up to 4. The most basic example would be hitting crouching medium punch twice with Guile. SFV replaced those with 3-frame links, which can be easily achieved by mashing fast enough.
15:57 I would love to see you draw your own Mixbox artwork. I think a tutorial on how to get everything the right size for printing would be awesome.
18:14 Ending the 360 with a diagonal up+back actually makes it harder and it forces you to rush the action. The best way is to do a half circle motion, going back to neutral and then hitting up and attack at the same time. For 720, I input up+forward, make one full rotation while in the air and then do the same thing I do for a 360.
It looks gorgeous and stylish. Switch being a secondary console for most of us, it's great that's compatible with both consoles. And you really got me intrigued about trying a hitbox eventually
i really dont know why u dont have more subs, i like ur style of video a lot (especially the making coffe ones) keep up with the good work friend :)
ps: the arcade keyboard is sick
I use a split keyboard that lets you put back together straight. While I usually keep it straight when typing, I love tilting the left side when gaming. Its way more relaxing to keep my hand in position.
Modular is always best! I actually discovered a modular arcade stick a few days ago...
I'd like to see a version with a space bar for jump instead of an up key since you don't have to share a finger for up and down. But I guess that's what keeps this out of hitbox territory.
Oooh, thats an interesting looking stick.
If I were to give any suggestions, it would be:
-Have another down button where your thumb would rest in respect the WASD buttons, kinda like a mini space bar.
-make the cable detachable
As for a bonus, they could allow for easier customization by inserting a button-switch that opens the system up like the MadCatz TE2+ or the Razor Panthera.
Legit been wanting a MixBox for quite some times, as i play Tekken7 on pc. Inputting commands felt easier on keyboards for me, so the fact that mixbox uses cherryMX switches for the directions is an interesting deal.
Thanks for the overview, NihongoGamer!
11:42 being a guitar player for 14 years hearing this convinced me to give this box a try when I can afford it. I feel like it would give certain musicians that play fighting games an advantage
*"I'm using tilt controls!"*
FEEDBACK: If the Mix Devs are reading this, there is something u guys have to DEFINITELY WORK ON, its the PRICE!
200€+70€ for shipping + Customs +(something in between +50€) ... ITS INSANELY OVER-PRICE!
-COMMENT-
Has for the 2x360º Zangief, that's all about how fast you can use all ur 3 finger when doing a single punch to lock down ur Character while u perform it. Or u may also lock ur fingers tight in a position that can allow you to perform a circle by rotates ur wrist around those buttons without moving ur fingers, but that's something that even I never tried for.
PS: I might be wrong, but I think once u done with the the 1st circle, you might be able to leave ur finger pressing one last key to short the inputs on the 2nd rotation.
I bought this for mortal kombat, because I enjoy how quickly and easily I can do special moves and cancels with the D-pad, and I enjoy the ease to pulling off combos with arcade buttons. I know keyboard arrows arent the same as a d-pad but they basically work the same. Except cherry switches are way more responsive than the stock dpad.
Looks cool. I like the angle. Looks comfortable
Just recently got my first arcade stick and modded it with sanwa parts and I love it, even with the learning curve that comes with a stick. I know I can do better with a pad but the fun experience I'm having with it far outweighs the difficulty of learning to play with a stick. I use it on PC because I am primarily a keyboard and mouse gamer because I'm mainly a first person shooter player than anything. I could really see this hitbox controller being really effective for someone like me with experience mostly with WASD controls. The angle of the keys looks like a much needed improvement. I play games like overwatch with my keyboard at a slight angle and having the buttons without an angle has an esthetically pleasing look but not very ergonomical. I agree that making the buttons higher up on the controller is a good idea. Maybe for the next version of the controller the ppl designing it can experiment with that. I really like the direction in which this controller is going and if the company can make a version at a bugdet price for us gamers with a tighter wallet I can see this as a buy in the future. Lastly I am a mechanical switch snob and the choice of cherry mx switches for the controller would be an awesome addition. I use cherry mx blue switches and having the choice for red, blue, brown, ect. Cherry mx switches would be great.
Yup I use WASD and then the number pad on the right for attacks.
I definitely liked the MixBox, but I may be more used to wasd movement from years of PC gaming. It may take some getting used to for people who haven't done much gaming with a keyboard.
I feel like you can use your pointer and middle finger instead of your ring finger for either qcf or qcb. The only thing I'd be worried about is not realizing which key is the middle one, but they can just do what normal keyboards do with the F and J key on the home row for a physical piece to tell you which key you're pressing.
good unboxing. makes me wanna get one because i'm not used to the arcade stick's.....uh.... stick.
I have one. My biggest complaint is the use of 30mm buttons. They should use 24mm so it feels closer LIKE the keyboard its trying to simulate. The 30mm size basically rendered the furthest 2 buttons useless to me. Most keyboard users would be resting their 3 fingers on three buttons. I play on the hitbox, mixbox and fighting edge btw.
See I'm guessing you might have small hands because the 30mm buttons are one of the reasons I love my mixbox I used to play on keyboard when I was younger but my manhands make that uncomfortably cramped nowadays I can hit the the furthest buttons with my pinky finger easily plus it makes it easier for my brain to switch between the mixbox and a regular stick as the button layout is the same
@@DaRealJGRIF i don't think the hand size matters... I have huge hands and i prefer 24mm button for hitbox or mixbox style controller (even tho i mostly play with standard layout on classic sticks)
@Shade Draws LOL! what are the odds of seeing you here. Shade get back to work I need you to fulfill my fantasies please! Hahaha!
@Shade Draws awesome im one of your first subscribers then!
So one thing about the angle is that it makes reverse hands a bit tougher. Some might switch hands when facing left to compensate for the ring finger weakness issue. I dunno how many people play reverse hands, but I have seen people do it for Metal Slug arcade machines and it doesn't seem too hard to learn.
Do want. I've been trying to use a Fightstick for DBZF. But I've had a pretty bad time, even using a good stick. I think this is the bridge for me to get into fighting games. I've wanted a mixbox for a while, but it always looked a bit rough. This new one looks clean.
@@sabin1997 I have looked into them as well, not sure how I feel about the up and down directions being swapped.
For QCB, I just move my fingers to the left so I press my pointer finger first, middle finger second. This makes reverse DPs a lot easier, too.
Me: I'm pretty bad at these types of games but the controller looks cool
*NihongoGamer combos faster than the eye can see*
Me: Oh I have to be God. That's probably why I'm bad
My feedback: uhh give me one??
No way! As much as I want to get one you can't rely on other people to buy one for you.
if only rich people were nice
Tray G lmao dude have you only met cartoonishly evil rich people or what?
@@papabootleg6472 he is probably a 9 year old who asks "could you make a giveaway?" Or "could you give it to me?" In all unboxing videos
@@TrayGChevorletCorvette i'd pay people's mortgages if I was rich, not give away fighting sticks wtf
That is the perfect stick for me cause i am a pad player but i learned and actually liked and preferred the keyboard after i got used to it so im saying the game gods and mixbox has answered my prayers all i can say is it would be great if mixbox was donating a mixbox or sponsored gamers that are heavy keyboard warriors can get a shot with one of these great mixbox sticks(blue one ) so yes in short it would be great if they were donating to some special player ... Like me lol
seemed strange but when you think about those split ergonomic keyboards it definitely makes sense
Nihongogamer Dood! When's that colab with Max? 🤣
Really love mix box and how innovative they are. And the tilted keys seem to be a very nice feature for better ergonomics
Kinda wanna get one myself but I'm not very rich HOWEVER I can make one
BakaMangaka Thank you for the support!
My dreams come true, mixbox getting popular
I like the blue color and angled keys. I might buy one to replace my matcatz TE2. Will this be available in UK?
Yes. You can pre-order it right now.
I need to ask, I dig the simplicity of your small wire shelf used to display your arcade sticks, where did you purchase it?
nitori in Japan. other companies make very similar products and they're generally called "Steel Rack"
@@NihongoGamer Thanks for the speedy response! That won't be hard to find at all haha.
I really like this new Mixbox.
I bought one of these, the PCB is cable tied to a piece of plast in which a single hole is drilled through and a nut and bolt holding it down
This was snapped. Not a delivery error, as the case (the best aspect of the device) is metal. Though the case was terribly protecxted with loose torn pieces of polystyrene wedged in and around the box.
The left arrow key was broken as well, this required changing.
Description on the product is vague to mislead you into believing it's full sanwa, that only the face buttons were sanwa (I am still unsure if this is the case, as they're taller than any other sanwa I have used before)
As per their terms and conditions I can get a full refund barring the £30 tax I paid, and the return shipping of £40 and any other taxes returning to China (even though it's all their fault)
Though the warranty only exists in the US, dunno how that'll hold up legally, tho.
As a collector I STRONGLY advise against this, the unit is way too expensive for what it is at $250.
Do not fall for the hype. Learn from my mistake.
I would like the buttons a bit higher as Nihongo said, but I'm buying this thing as it is, I can play in both consoles... that's awesome.
New to the channel, you’re a riot dude nice video 😂 instant sub 😊😊
Finally an Arcade controller for someone who always preffered Keyboard for fighting games. To be honest though, I would replace Sanwa style buttons with keys as well...
They give people exactly what they want ? Well I want one of those arcade controller!! On a more serious note, I think that this controller look really good but the tilt looks a little bit scary because I can't really tell if I will feal confortable using one. As I recently started considering buying an arcade controller I might as well give this one a try!
WOW! Does it really have Brook Universal inside? That's great because it is already legal at most tournaments and frequently gets firmware updates (recently added support for NeoGeo Mini for example) I'd like them to send one to Jasen's Customs so he can do a "breaking down the stick" video (he rates the ease of customizing sticks for modders)!
The Brook is a straightforward option and a recognised brand now so it's the obvious choice. As far as a teardown goes I'm not sure what you'd expect to see since Brook PCBs are designed to have very little assembly lol
His videos rate the ease of swapping out buttons, customizing artwork, adding neutrik - basically all the stuff modders like to do to their sticks.
If you're interested in the case then it's the FightstickAsia Samurai, look at JonyFraze's video on it
Wow that's next level! I want one
Hi Nihongogamer, it's been a month+ since you got your mixbox, have you use it extensively? What is your take for mixbox vs stick? I am in a dilemma as it is so expensive. And how easy to open the metal case to swap parts/replace faulty component? Thank you.
Thanks you for this video!!!👍👍👍
I'm actually very interested in getting one now
didn't know there were people interested in something like this
I kind of wanted a controller like this to exist but I'm not serious enough to justify the price for it.
Yeah the non universal mixbox 12 is $250, universal edition is $350, plus $70 shipping, and it takes like a month minimum to arrive. I bought one but only because I have a lot of disposable income and tekken is my hobby, but even I wouldn’t recommend it for the price. Just get a hitbox, might take a bit of getting used to but it’s effectively the same thing for less price. Not to mention you can beat the hell out of a arcade button, don’t know if the same can be said for a key switch. I don’t play sf so I can’t say what the mixbox is good for on that game, but in tekken, characters that use instant while running moves like dragunov have amazing consistency on mixbox. Conversely, characters like devil Jin, that need to input 2 buttons on the exact same frame, are better on hitbox. All in all though, the mixbox and hitbox are both basically perfect controllers for tekken at least, it just comes down to which you prefer.
R3 L3 should be where 8 buttons are. It could be 1 extra column next to R1 L1 or 1 extra row above R1 L1. :)
I mean, it makes sense. Unless you stretch your arm out completely, your fingers will be at an angle. Doesn't look half bad.
Nealry perfect. Now to be perfect they should try to build proper right-handed ones.
If this uses a Brook, I believe you can do analog emulation through some combination of buttons to change the behavior of the directional keys.
Wonder if when this is going to be available?
Yeah brook had button combinations to cycle between dpad, left analog and right analog
Since I have the original mixbox...
I often use this on tekken 7 its superb
And for kof 14 as well those
⬇️↙️⬅️↙️⬇️↘️➡️ moves is much better than stick in my opinion...
mark b thanks for the support all time Mark !
Qcb Hcf and qcf hcb moves are dicey on a sanwa jlf. I’m gonna have to try a Seimitsu whenever and however and never get my hands on one.
I said this in another Mixbox video, but I would like to mention it again: More switch options. Most mechanical keyboards offer 3 or more switch options, so I would like to see Mixbox provide more than red switches, such as blue (my favorite) and browns.
i build one a little bit ago like one that Daigo did that got banned recently, it probably should have no way for controllers to emulate that set up even wit a ps4 controller where they can use the joystick input as well. To compare the controller to his hitbox is like comparing apples to bricks.
This looks totally legit. I might buy one. Maybe the d pad placement can be modded with a fiber glass knife.
Looks good, I really want to see the insides though. I seriously love the blue theme on this. If I had to suggest something, perhaps make it open like the Razer Panthera? And also, detachable cables.
of all your fightsticks, which do you prefer in terms of comfortability for you?
why is this dude so talented wtf
I will buy. 2:08 Does it have that toxic plastic smell?
I would love a mixbox stick like that, but the keys being on the right, i've always played fighting games with the arrows of the keyboard instead of WASD, it would be awesome
They make reverse versions too :)
NihongoGamer Thank you so much Nihongogamer!
hey :D! i'm actually a keyboard player and believe it or not, i found a way around the problem with the ring finger XD. even tough it may look uncomfortable, once you get used to it, it really helps, and is actually changing the position of your fingers. that means to do a fire ball, i do from middle to index, BUT to do a backuards fireball, i actually do from index to middle finger. and the same with lots of motions. at this point i'm actually playing fighting games with only 2 fingers XD. i hope this can help you with your ring finger problem
It would be cool if you could adjust or rotate the angle of the keyboard button.
Honestly I play fighter with a controller well the d-pad really but I think the mix box would be good for players like me. Although for Tekken and street fighter I love using a arcade stick
Sanwa has at least 2 versions when it comes to buttons that i know of. Standard and silent, the later which have a more firm and less noise making feel to it.
They need a version with the jump on a side like a hitbox. I use the spacebar in my keyboard to jump,
At that point why not just use a hitbox?
I think the Smashbox might be what you're looking for. I'm sure I've seen a mixbox layout with 24mms and a jump button for your thumb
One question: do you feel your left hand more tired using the mixbox rather than a traditional stick?
My left hand doesn’t feel tired, but like any keyboard you need to be extra careful that you don’t tense up your arm since it’s in a fixed position for a long time
@@NihongoGamer thanks¡ I'm really interested in this device, I think I'll do some tests in my regular keyboard to see if I feel better than my gamepad
It would be nice to have a stick/wasd button option like a modern thumbstick game pad has. Otherwise I still think the stick is the most versatile between character moves that need the half circle motions.
My suggestions would probably have to do with customization. having swapable key switches would be my main thing. Some people prefer reds, blues, clears, etc.
People have done this with the Mura Masher so I think it's only a matter of time before people hack this too
Looks fine, can't really understand the difference from watching the video but it would be nice if they made one were you coud simply swap the angles to your personal favorite.
Light Reaper thank you so much for the suggestion
My only concern with something like the Mixbox is if the keys start to malfunction, how hard is it to replace them yourself? They Are soldered in, right? That would be one advantage of owning a Hitbox or traditional arcade stick over the Mixbox, from what I can tell.
Yeah they are soldered in. But you shouldn't be in a need to change the switches tbh. But if you want you can from one switch to another without needing to resolder, as you can just pop out the keys and take them apart and change the springs and such to fit your need.
I'm sure they'd replace them lol. This is an early product so I would expect a few malfunctions like that actually...
Was gonna get a new stick but gonna save up for this badboiiiii
I am very interested in this controller. It supports 6 different systems! :O and PC/Steam I am assuming? I don't have the money for it currently. However I really like this concept.
I just hope they have more colors in the future. Also I am hoping in the future you can customize the key boards for not only different color buttons but replacing the keyboards if they get worn out.
Great review¡ thanks. I assume that if it uses the Brooks universal PCB, this stick can be used in Xbox One as well
That's right
surely in the next model they make it easier to slide from down to up maybe by having the up key slanted (idk how else i'd word that)
Where did you get the orange joycon in the thumbnail? So nice.
These mixboxes seem really great, but that ring finger problem you mentioned would probably give me more trouble, despite me being trash at fighting games
Thanks to this video I created my own box and it is a beauty, the best thing I have used in my life, it depends a lot on tastes but I prefer my box first and I have tried all kinds of arcade sticks,or controllers, I invite you to create one or buy it
It has no waste
Maybe put the keys on a part that you can spin and/or reposition. That way it would be able to change the positioning by taste.
Dewabarasunderan thank you so much for the suggestion
That's what the Mura Masher is for
What about xbox and PC? Does it also work?
easily works for pc there is a cheaper ps4 pc version but the one that works for everthing is 350 if I could try out one it might be for me but to be stuck with a 250 dollar stick if it doesnt work for me is a hard sell as re selling a mix box would be easier said then done since its not a standard arcade stick
Love the mini shirt!
I'd prefer an actual stick if they could have both with the option for analog emulation not sure how the spacing would work but some games benefit from WASD while others control better with a full stick especially when I can swing my hand in a circle more easily then pressing offset keys in a particular order I tend to miss the S key quite alot. If possible I'd like an all in one controller I could use in conjunction with a mouse.
I actually played keyboard before stick but quickly switched to pad shortly after lol I’d love it if there was a way I could try it but not commit to it like with the aswd style if they had a conjoined version with a stick too I’d be more open to it. Money in the upwards of 300 bucks is a lot for a long shot. For those that really enjoy it and really into it I’m glad they have the option
What’s you best stick ? Your go to stick ? I want to get one , not sure what to get
Say, I use arrow keys and ASDZXC for as my layout because my left hand fingers are not good with reverse motions, would that affect my performance on stick?
You can normally adjust to different layouts within 1-2 months but whether or not you will improve is very subjective haha
Just asking because switching is pretty much required as half circles are a real chore (I slide my finger across the keys, heh), and I don't think a reversed Hitbox or Mixbox has reasons to exist. Thanks for the answer.
It sounds like you could use a hitbox honestly, every directional button is at your fingertips like a piano
@@mystic_guardian Mystic_Guardian The closest thing I've tried is a mechanical keyboard, and it worked well on right handed.
Honestly I might just not have practiced enough with my left fingers, though it's the way I used to do it in the past.
Trying different methods should be the best way to go. A stick seems to be a more universal solution, and pad is out of the question.
Yeah there's a lot of options out there it just takes some patience to find the best one for you. Pads do deserve to be blacklisted though haha
How many times has he said this is amazing? And I believe him too
Lol yeah wasn’t til the edit later that realised how many times I said the same word. I had quite a good time!
Will the Mixbox Universal Edition work on Them's Fightin' Herds?
Surprisingly I always play Tekken 7 on my PC casual or competitive using a Mechanical Keyboard and using the directional Pad instead of Analog on the PS4, because Tekken 7 and my main is better with a Keyboard/DS4 directional layout to execute it's combo. But when i switch to either DBFZ/KOF 14 using the Keyboard/DS4 Directional Pad is a nightmare so have to revert to my Hori Fight Stick Mini.
It really depends on your personal style of play. I prefer Tekken 7 using directional pad but outside Tekken 7 Joystick is the best solution.
I wonder if Mixbox is interested in making a fightpad. There seems to be a shortage of those for ps4 so I just use my hori fighting commander.
George Papandreou thank you so much for the suggestion
9:42 Bringing a gun to a sword fight..
Are the direction keys mechanical or membrane? Obviously the arcade buttons use micro switches so I'm curious if they went all in or cheaped out.
The directional keys are Red Cherry MX Mechanical Key Switches (4 WASD) and the arcade buttons are Japanese Sanwa Denshi Buttons (8-Function)
The mixbox is cool. The biggest problem is the price. It cost around $320 to get one shipped to the US and that's for the base model. I can save over $100 if I get a hitbox instead.
Are there other sticks like this that are easily cross compatible between Switch and PS4 (and hopefully easily connects to PC)?
looks nice i might get one
an adjustable angle for the keys would be great!
Buy a Mura Masher and you can drop it into your existing stick! This angle is probably close to optimal though
Maybe if we can have selections for a MX cherry keys and mod grip keys like what most keyboards have i would probably buy one.
The only issue I have with mixboxes, is the price. These universal ones are $350.
The Brook Universal is $100 by itself, I spent more than this building my own stick yet these guys did all the work so I think it is fair (not a bargain, but fair)
350 is pretty cheap considering they have sanwas and cherry mx key switches and it's universal plus they aren't a huge company yet
falconxblast Actually I’ve found the board for $80 online not a huge difference but it’s not quite 100. Plus the brooks works on 360, Xbox One, PS3/4, Switch and PC so def more bang for your buck.
15x Sanswa 30 + 4x Cherry Red = ~$47.50
And those are retail prices from Focus Attack, if they're buying bulk their unit cost would come down. So you're paying roughly $200 for the casing, R&D and profit margin. Up to you if that's a fair price to pay.
@@falconxblast it's fair, but it's a lot if that makes sense lol. Even the regular non-universal ones are more expensive than most standard sticks. That may still be reasonable for what it is you're getting, but it makes it harder to pull the trigger.
Hey Nihongo Gamer. I was wondering where can I get replacements for the wires on the cherry switches? I have the original version of the mixbox arcade stick and I was attempting to mod the keys and one of the wires broke.
Hi Derrick, Email has been sent you.