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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 พ.ค. 2015
- Starting P4 in Super Stock CR125 class, Hegar (#4) dropped out due to a wheel coming off so I shuffled up to P2. In front of us are the european shifter engines and behind are about 30 sprint stock and super stock CR125s. JG (#7) and Mike (#17) got a really good draft off the euro karts which are a bit faster and drove away from the rest of us for awhile. I caught up to JG for a little bit due to traffic but his engine was really boogieing and he was able to make a gap again, then he had mechanical issues and was forced to retire from the race. I battled it out with the rest of the Super Stocks for the lead and finished 3rd place.
2nd race I was wrecked into on the first lap and though I didn't go off track a lot of the field passed me by. Worked my way back up through most of the field but never caught the lead pack again. Managed to make it back up to 7th place. I do not have video of this or the 3rd race unfortunately, the video files are corrupted. The hit I took may have busted my camera.
3rd race nobody in the lead pack had mechanical issues and I was able to stick with Hegar, Mike, and JG for a long time. About halfway through, lapped traffic split JG and I from Hegar and Mike too much and we never caught up but I battled JG for 3rd the rest of the race. Sadly I was unable to make a pass stick on the final lap despite many tries and finished 4th. (scratch that, scoring seems to have placed me 3rd and JG 2nd, where did Hegar go?) It is really unfortunate that this video did not come out as there was a lot of excellent racing. It was probably the best race I've had so far. - กีฬา
The guy at 1:20 with kart #4...his wheel came off hahahaha
Not funny in that speed...
I wish folks would share what track their at?
It's in the title, it's called "The Ridge" www.ridgemotorsportspark.com/
Im selling my 2023 yz450f and im going to get into shifter karts , won't blow the budget compared to building a car and have just as much fun , are Praga karts any good anyone please???
Dunno about the different brands. I always drove a Swiss Hutless entirely because the importer was my local karting shop and that meant I never had to worry about keeping a large supply of spares. If I wrecked I just went over to his trailer and got new parts right there at the track. I'm sure all the major brands are plenty competitive, including Praga. I chose the Van Diemen when I got a Formula Continental for a similar reason. It is the most common car, was the spec car for USF2000 for many years, so if I break something I don't have I can pretty much always find someone in the pits to bum a part from.
@@ZizinRacing makes sense to go down the track you have atleast you wouldn't have wasted time on the track waiting for parts and what not ... enjoy your racing brother and good luck for the future from Australia...
Those final set of turns at the end of the track reminded me of the corkscrew at Laguna Seca, just not as steep.
holy lord... seeing you going 105 on the straight and two other carts fly past makes me sick... great job. great video and excellent description. thanks for sharing
What a great race track! The open fast corners. Wow!
1:20 omg that guy with the number 4 yellow tag front left wheel flew off😲
Must have forgot to replace pin clip on axle nut! ...nut will spin off for sure on left wheel (rotates in direction to loosen axle nut). Safety guys! check, recheck before rushing to grid. I've been karting for decades, equipment failure injuries are almost always something stupid and avoidable like this guy's wheel falling off .. other recurring failures are brake and steering system cotter pins not being replaced ... and brake line compression couplings pulling / popping apart. This stuff can happen, assuming this will happen, add redundant features to at least protect yourself and others from injury (think well beyond the sanctioning body tech rules). For instance, I do crazy stuff like adding a 2nd rear axle redundant brake system, or brake balancers that limit travel in the event hydraulic pressure is lost in one loop... or double linkage rods, etc .. overkill? Absolutely not .. go back and watch this guy's wheel fall off again, LOL ... this isn't one unusual stupid person .. this is what happens to normal people who are racing, working fast in the pits trying to make their grid starting time with the best, fastest setup they can bring to the line .. S$&T happens.
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Kevinson Calixte lolzzz
That looks like a lot of fun. Thanks for sharing.
I get into "racing mode" when driving a kart and think of nothing else.
BTW : Huge track! great driving.
Alfredo Meireles not a gokart track
I enjoyed watching this video! Im planning to build a kart like this next year.
Jack Francisco you cant just build this
Ofc you can. I build a similar one or rather it was build for me. If I lived in the US I would have saved 4 years. German bureaucracy
That was such an awesome video!!!
He was doing 100 mph then someone passes him lmfao
k smith ññ
miss racing these as a kid, 250cc shifter was soooooo fun
3:51 The Raidillon de l’Eau Rouge of Kart racing.
great race!
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man awesome elevation track
These guys are insane but this is so cool
When that guys wheel flew off I was dying
In kart racing, there is a great advantage of being able to easily brake with the left foot while keeping the rev of the engine up with the right foot. This can be done in cars but only with greater skill and complexity of feet movement. This driver drove well but somehow didn't keep the rev up through corners and for that he lost a lot of time. On the whole, this group of racers is very advanced in their kart driving skill. I am amazed by the #9 racer who kept looking over his shoulders to check on the pursuing kart behind him.
Reminds me of young John Connor running from the T1000 on his bike.
Looks like lots of fun.
the g force meter was wrong. it showed eft when it should show right and otherway around.
Difficult keeping temperature in the tires on a track this big?
Most realistic game I've ever seen...
very nice video.. i miss my Tony Kart
I would tuck those laces in before they get caught on something. lol. and maybe some tape on the pant cuff
Nice driving! How did you measure the g-force? Does the MyChron gps module come with it?
+Bismuthguy Yes, it has a 10Hz GPS reciever so it is fast and accurate enough to measure g-force.
What would you recommend for a former kart racer wanting to get back into this?
Head to your local sprint track on a race weekend. You can see what classes are popular and the people there will be able to direct you to all the local resources.
new to karting so I am sorry if my question is dumb? does slipstream has effect in karting? Also I did not watch the entire race will complete it later, where did u finish :)
Huge effect on big tracks like this, more than I get racing cars. You will notice that when I'm driving alone I top out at around 103mph but when two of us line up we can get to 110mph+. I finished 3rd.
Is that Santa driving?
this makes me want to get back into karting. i used to race out at psgka and i still have my old 08 italkart frame. though at 6' 2" i might be a little too tall....
Every chassis manufacturer makes an extended front porch kit for tall drivers, you should be fine. Come out and race, the older stiffer frames do very well on the big road courses. I prefer my 2011 swiss 1 to the brand new swiss evo on these tracks.
106 go kart what the hell:)
Thrilling race and beautiful track! Where is it?
+Sergio Magni Shelton Washington (Southwest of Seattle)
Nice track. Not simple
What software /system is that on the video?
Software is Race Render 3, data logger is a MyChron4.
Nice
What do you use to get the track map, race stats and mph on the screen?
+OutdoorAdventureUK Data is logged with the MyChron4 unit, overlay is rendered with Race Render 3 using the data from the MyChron4.
thanks, I am going to take some GoPro Footage of a friend of ours who races GoKarts, so thought this would be neat to overlay of the footage. Not sure if he has anything like that on his Kart.
draft works here???
do you guys run these on the smaller track or is that too slow haha
We do, but I quite enjoy racing on the full size tracks. Going fast is fun.
Is there some way you could get a more centered view angle? It's a lot easier to watch that way. More functional perspective.
MonoLykos Sometimes I can mount the camera on my helmet, that is my most preferred location, but most events the camera is not allowed anywhere on your body. Dumb safety liability nonsense, you know how it is. I have put it on the front fairing before but that makes for a very wobbly video and I get more useful information when I can see what I'm doing with my hands and feet anyway.
HairyFruitOfPassion you aloud to stick it you the front of the kart? like on the nose of it or does that create drag?
***** Yes, but the vibration is too much and I can't see pedals or steering wheel.
okay :D btw nice video i would dream of doing this
Go Mario, GO!!!
Hello,are you there?can I ask you question?very much thank you!what you gear number？
Is this just a fun hobby and you like competition, or is there pressure to win in these races for you from other people and yourself?
Just a fun hobby. Sometimes I compete in races for big bucks but mostly I do amateur stuff.
HairyFruitOfPassion how much a cart like that go for?
Any road races like this in SoCal?
Yep, check out nckroadracing.com/
how many weekends do you get at the track each year in Washington? my dad does club days with his track car. I think he should sell it and get a cart. why spend more money to go slower, right?
+Mike Rothwell It depends, you could easily fill every weekend in the summer with a race like I did last season if you also do sprint track racing (small tight tracks designed specifically for karts). If you just do big tracks like The Ridge there aren't as many though, last season there were two races at The Ridge, two at Portland International (including Rose Cup exhibition), and one at Oregon Raceway Park. There might be less in the Northwest next year since there will be no karts at the Rose Cup and I don't know if PKA has enough money to put on a lot of races. I know people have been trying to get in a race at Pacific Raceways/Seattle too so I hope that happens.
I also went down to Laguna Seca in January. If you're willing to travel to California, the NCK group also has a full road race schedule. I think their last race is this weekend actually at Sonoma. I would have gone but I'm out of money right now, haha.
well it just looks awesome. apparently you are about 10s faster around per lap than a GT3 prosche. I'm in law school right now but once I have a paying job, I'm definitely going to get into karting. I've done some pretty fast karts in Texas and compared to doing laps in a Z06, the kart put a much bigger smile on my face.
I guess because of my background doing club road race days, I'm not that interested in circle track stuff. Are there road race style tracks that let you have lapping even if there's no actual race held? Wheel to wheel is fun but I also like just trying to push the lap on an individual level like qualifying.
+Mike Rothwell Haha yeah, not a lot of top speed in the straights but cornering speeds are like winged open wheel cars so lap times are pretty impressive.
Many race weekends have a practice day before the race day. You are not obligated to pay for the race day too if you just want to practice. I recommend coming out to the races too though, it's a lot of fun and if you choose a big popular class there's someone to race with no matter where your budget and skill level places you in the pack. Don't worry about being in the way, there are a lot of novice racers around and the fast guys can get around them no problem. Also, if you join a local sprint racing club you can usually use the track whenever you want for an incredibly small fee. By sprint track I don't mean ovals, they're just like a road course only half as wide and under a mile long. This is the one I am a member of: portlandkarting.com/club-info/track-info Straight is still long enough to get up over 90 in a shifter.
The Ridge actually just completed their own sprint track a couple months ago. It's a miniature version of the big track flipped around the other direction.
oh shit. that is awesome. so are you an Oregonian then? I live in the Seattle area.
Yea, that is why the laptime is so amazing cuz the GT3 is probably hitting 150 on the straights and you're still 10s faster. I saw you pulling 2g through the section I call "faux rouge" and even 3g in part of the corkscrew. That is incredible w/o downforce.
+Mike Rothwell I am in Vancouver WA, might as well be Oregon. Go karts are pretty impressive with the cornering Gs they can pull, gotta build up neck muscles to hold your head straight lol.
How much does it cost to buy or build o e of these ? ;)))
+oneill vittini Really just depends on what you wanna spend. Brand new they're around $11k but used they can be as low as $2k for an old beater from the early 00s.
Is there an age limit? Im 37
Can someone tell me where is that circuit? in which country? which city?
The Ridge Motorsports Park in Shelton, Washington State (USA)
thanks
HairyFruitOfPassion there's a track there? Hmm
You bet! A lot of race tracks are out in the middle of nowhere.
2 things ive noticed:
#1 youre much more focused than your earlier videos, i assume from being more experienced plus a better knowledge of courses
#2 you manage lap traffic much better. earlier videos made it look like a borderline nightmare, but now its not as big of a problem
diabolicvirgo017 Yeah, I have gotten a lot better. There was a nightmare lapped traffic race during that weekend but I did not get video of it because my camera died. Over 60 karts on track at once with a lot of multiclass. Trying to pass a bunch of laydowns without losing the draft of the other 125cc leaders can get pretty hairy.
So there's no clutch pedal?
No clutch pedal. The clutch is the paddle on the steering wheel. You only need it to get rolling from a stop though, after that you can just use the throttle.
It's a very long track is it really a gokart track?
No, it's a full size road course for cars.
ok
Sounds like he's running below his power band and because of that, he's not accelerating out of corners as well as he could be.
its to pull more on the straights and use the draft better
Llyda9
That makes no sense.
Running below the power band would also make both of those things harder as well.
Explain the physics of your comment.
The power band on the Honda CR125 is lower than the European KZ shifter engines. On these it drops off like a rock after about 12400 RPM.
HairyFruitOfPassion
Understood.
At the same time, the rate of RPM climb coming out of a curve is still a good indicator of whether or not an engine has been wound up enough during the transition in the corner. These kart engines don't really spend much time in the rafters except in the back half of the straights so the lower torque at high revs isn't a significant performance drawback for them.
I'd still like to know what Llyda9 was trying to say.
when you get a draft your rpms rise. you want to be in your powerband for as long as possible. when you have the draft you dont want to be topping it out
WOT DEH🤤 DUDE 19:18. Sink you toes into that peddle thingy some more. Man you're giving up your position
How can I get into shifter karting?? In the UK?
I don't know much about the UK racing scene. I've seen many videos of karts at Brands Hatch on TH-cam though, maybe ask some of those racers?
Gotta learn to work that draft man!
The bad part is the circuit. That a Car track, the thing is huge, you barely use the brakes and turns are almost at full throttle, Kart track the real deal.
name of The Track ? nice
RacingTube The Ridge Motorsports Park
Obviously, this cat did not have his Kart geared properly. His top speed should be 125! Not 101. Plus, he's not very smooth. Glad he had the camera onboard, though . . .
How big is that track?
About 2.5 miles
+HairyFruitOfPassion that's HUGE
justin heath
It is? That's pretty average for a road course. Great track though with some pretty sweet features. Thunderhill is 5 miles now if you rent out both sides of the track, now that's huge. I think it's currently the longest track in North America.
+HairyFruitOfPassion WHOA
HairyFruitOfPassion according to my calculations that's about 4.02 Km so that go kart track is almost as long as a F1 track 😂
TRY REDLINE THE DOWN SHIFT KEEP THE UPSHIFT IN THE YELLOW YOU WILL BE FASTER IN THE CORNERS DONT GET ON THE GAS UNTIL YOU KNOW YOU DONT HAVE TO BRAKE (JACKIE STEWART)
is 4 drunk?
Wow never seen these before. There automatic with manual shift. Super Cool. Would lover to see motor and tranny set up.
+Thomas Harrell It's not automatic, it's a dirt bike engine and transmission. Straight off a Honda CR125, it's a spec engine class. The clutch is that paddle on the steering wheel, you only really need it for taking off from a stop.
+ZIZIN How old are you? Do you own the kart or drive for somebody? Do you have a fabrication shop? Did you make the kart or buy it? What are the regulations for the class.
I am 26, I own the kart. There isn't really a lot of stuff you can fabricate on karts. There are a large selection of chassis manufacturers to choose from but they do have to be homologated. You'd have to have an R&D team full of engineers to be able to design one that's fast on your own, they may look simple but there's actually a lot of engineering put into them. A chassis from 2015 is way faster than a chassis from 2005 even.
The regulations on this Stock CR125 class in particular are pretty simple, just has to be a legal chassis and a stock 1999 CR125 engine and transmission, which Honda continues to produce specifically for kart racing. There's a little more to it than that like what pipe you can use and '01 cylinders are ok too and so on but that's the gist of it anyway. It's the most popular shifter class in the USA right now by far since the "Mod Honda" (engine development class for the CR125) have a tendency to blow up and the European KZ engines are really expensive.
+ZIZIN
Thanks for the come back.
So you go to the Go Kart race shop and buy a chassis, 1999CR125 engine and tranny, and slap em together. My oh My some of the drivers I have seen would cheat. No porting or changing parts? Is fuel gas or ethanol, methane. Are mixtures allowed.
What about brakes, tires and wheels?
Are the frames carbon fiber?
This is really cool, come become addictive quickly.
+ZIZIN
I looked at the specs of the Honda CR125 Engine. Something like this?
type: 124 cc air cooled, single-cylinder,, two-stroke, producing, 22 hp (claimed), carburetion 28mm Keihin, Transmission close ratio six speed, and bore and stroke 56 x 50 mm. I always wanted to put my Kawasaki 750 cc engine and tranny on a Kart. It had 72 horse power. If properly geared and constructed with carbon fiber frame, a kart with that engine and tranny would easily make 200 mph. The bike would hit 140 mph with the bikes weight about 700 pounds. (Guess subject to old memory) Always too busy with something else.
I used to kart race 20 years ago. For me tracks like this are way too open. I like more turns with shorter straightaways.
..said no kart racer ever.
Tec 9 said anyone with an ounce of sense you mean. Most of the track is flat out which is dumb boring compared to actual kart tracks
Matt Shane Sprint racing sucks. you always get crashed by some idiot.
Tec 9 thats either bad luck or youre not doing it right.
not aggressive enough
f preston Agreed. This looks like an exhibition, not a race. Most of the time he's under revs, the rest he is way over...all alone..
He drives the race line too even when he's got more grip to give and can go in deeper.
The best track ever saw! Whats the name please?
170 km/h?
+akenatum Yes
+akenatum yeah thats fucked. theres no way. Hes bullshiting. They only do 100 km/h
+Nechrocasm no bullshit. Even a slow single gear 4-stroke race kart gets up around 75mph/120kmh with gearing for the big tracks. You can check some of my older videos for that.
why did you coast behind people so much? overtake.
It's not that simple. Everyone has the same power and weight, so overtaking can pretty much only be done by braking late on corners or by using different racing lines
+skittlepower95 We are faster if we work together using the draft.
Who else notices the temperature fluctuating in the corner of the screen? Ain't saying which one!...😂😂😂
fucking flying. looks dangerous though.
Eric B
I was thinking the same thing. At those speeds in a kart you need some type of safety devices for the driver.
+ZIZIN I gota car how do i sign up
+Bill Ferguaon Join IKF, make sure you conform to the safety rules, figure out what class you fit in, and show up at a race. The races in the NW Gold Cup series are put on by Portland Karting Association (portlandkarting.com/), Puget Sound Road Race Association (psrra.org/), and NorCal Karting (www.nckroadracing.com/). Pick the one closest to you and use the contact page to talk to whoever's in charge there, they'll be able to help you out with everything you need. Schedule for 2016: portlandkarting.com/schedules/road-race-schedule
This is the most dangerious thing I have ever seen. You will turn into a rag doll at 100MPH. No crash protection on the walls? NUTS
It's safer than racing motorcycles.
What kind of tire pressure you run on this kart with a track this big?! Great video though. I drive a tag-senior
I like to start with 9 PSI all around and adjust from there based on how the track feels.
One of the carpenters building my dads house said they do karting our at the track that he races 125cc bikes.out in Maine there is nothing
14:55 .108mph
Sounds like your gearing is off
You forgot to put the positioning... Hehe
3,06 g at 21:55. i've seen more
100mph on a go kart 😮
hah! that's not a legal spot for the transponder is it? ;)
It is, the only rule is that it has to be located somewhere behind the kingpins.
Are they difficult to drive with the huge boner they must cause?
+Tony Wood Nah, you calculate the huge boner in when you've got it up on the scales and are adjusting the weight distribution.
gotta be more aggressive. pretend each one of them slapped your mom.
Han Solo I had some 250 shifter karts and I would turn into a wild man. I didn't care if I died but I was going to pass them.
1:20 that guy got ADHD. Lol
This driver has a major fault, Every time he corners he drops the revs to the floor.
NEVER do that, keep the power engaged but steady, dropping revs loses valuable momentum.
This was reallgly Stiggy! So you say, at the end of braking, it is good to get on the accelerator a bit? I am talking about 9HP indoor karts...rofl. Will it help to accelerate faster out of a corner? Because, you know, mostly at the mid section or exit of the corner I am countersteering, sometimes only at the neutral wheel position. Tell me how to be faster? I have one not so great quality vid of 9HP kart.
You could have used more top end.
this guy have corner speed issue,,, he needs to increase it...
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Yeah right 100MPH. You kidding me? no way these go that fast. Like one small tap with another racer and check later. Fuckin be rolled 2334 times.
+Nechrocasm If you think that's crazy a properly set up 250cc superkart can reach 140mph/225kmh, check out some of henrik lilja's videos. Making contact with another kart is a pretty bad idea, often results in broken ribs and the ruining of many expensive parts. Race karts are like little tiny formula cars that you can stuff in the back of a pickup truck.
You not even knowing...
Shannon Spears hahaha bone head!! u rt to
Lol you're stupid they're are super karts that can do 180 !! Read a book
Haha. KZ and KZ2 category karts which they race in europe hit 100mph/160km/h even on regular kart tracks with much shorter straights and are capable of 0-100km/h in about 3 seconds. Proper shifter karts are serious business.
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One of those guys who won't take his position in the formation lap, hanging back and jamming up the guys behind because he wants to get a jump on the guy ahead. It's called a formation lap for a reason. But anyway, fasten your transponder down next time. Flat off the corners (DOWNSHIFT!) and couldn't stay with the leaders. Flat above 100 without a draft. Wrong gear and probably wrong jetting. Lots of lifting. Commit yourself!
fraco
great Video, have a look on these overtakings too: th-cam.com/video/AU2Skr4rxcE/w-d-xo.html
He drive like seb
youre hardly using the track and the kart to its full potential. more kerbs, approach, apex, and exit.
less idle time with control input. you must be either breaking, accelerating, or carefully getting the kart through the mid corner using a combination of them, not coasting, wasting shitloads of time.
youre maybe working at 65-70% of what that kart is capable of.
+skittlepower95 No, this is on-pace with the fastest times. Road racing is a little weird, not like the sprint track. You're faster if you stick in a pack of 2-3 karts and use the draft to go faster on the straights, however you are also faster if you go off line just a tad in the corners when you're in the pack. The front spoiler on a kart actually provides a small amount of downforce and it makes a difference, if everyone drove exactly the same line and you stuck right behind them through the corner your front end washes out a bit.
Another issue with this track in particular is the surface right near some of the apexes is a bit beat up and rough, it upsets the kart if you drive over it so it's faster if you miss that rough patch.
+ZIZIN I think I may have replied to the wrong video. I skipped about 15 minutes in and youre going pretty hard.
Tracks too big. More suitable for 250 Super Kart
Almost nobody races 250, idiot.
King David Go tell your mama you need a diaper change. Everyone in the US races Stock Moto....125.
Tec 9 I've moved on to bigger but did run SKUSA and SuperNats. What you know about that boy.
King David Good for you. But they don't run 250s at Supernats. Must be boring running a 250cc kart in empty Home Depot parking lots because theres almost no races for them in the US.
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Drives like a pussy