Hi Dave, thanks a lot for this video and your thoughts to Suunto Race. Suunto said same to the suunto vertical. That they will fix the bugs in a firmware update and beg for patience. The update on my vertical comes at 2 month....but the lag is still there. Now i'm ordered the "race" and i'm very excited for the experience.
I hope the lag gets fixed but I feel it’s a processor issue. Case in point we have a seven year-old iPad at home that we still use and the lag is definitely noticeable nothing to do with the device itself. It’s just that the processor can’t handle any of the modern apps. Thanks for watching and thanks for your feedback.
You spun through the screen with minimal lag. All watches suck on HR unless you get a chest strap. The updates have worked for most users. You can easily change the strap. 965 costs a fair bit more and had plastic in the body. Race & vertical are both brilliant IMO.
@@adammillsindustries. the lag is minimal, but noticeable compared to other devices. TBH, the Apple Watches I’ve tested, along with many Garmins and others have better hr readings. That’s just my experience. I do agree that the 965 is not nearly the same as the race as far as build quality. Thanks for watching and sharing your experience/opinion. We can’t always agree on the opinion of users, but we can respect them 👍. Cheers, and all the best with the Race. If they fix the lag with firmware, I am really tempted to pick one up.
I have a 955 and Fênix 7 solar and when I bought Suunto Race I knew what I'm buying and the reasons why I'm buying. Instant pace a pace changes more reliable than Garmin, both in dual band frequency, better screen, ,less features we don't need, great build quality,and a small lag is a non problem. It's one of best Suunto watches and you arrive complaining about nitty gritty details. But well,is your perspective. In my point of view, Kudos to Suunto,made a great watch, with a beautiful display and great construction and way cheaper than the epix 2 , forerunner 965 etc. just seems that kind of reviewers who uses iPhone all the time and when review an android phone,give a negative review just for the fact he just stuck on Apple ecosystem. Baaaa
That’s the thing. Everyone has their opinion about everything and we can’t all agree. But that’s not a bad thing. I hope they update the firmware, and that will make all of the difference. Thanks for taking the time to comment.
Absolutely agree with you mate. Trust me I have been using the Suunto race and is a fantastic piece! Of course tye heart rate us bad but that is with most watches. I pair it with the most advanced fourth frontier X2 and vola you have the best of both worlds! The lag is not noticeable at all...at this.price point I will buy it again..no complaints
@@chirantanmukherji640 I ended up getting one again and have been using it for the last while. Yes, the screen is laggy as hell but for $600 CDN, the battery is amazing and the big bold sapphire screen is beautiful. I am swallowing my own review as we speak. Paired with a Polar HRM strap and it’s a joy to wear. Thanks for taking the time to comment! Cheers and Happy New Year.
Agreed. After my initial frustration with a couple of small little things, it has been on my wrist for the last six months. For the price it is a brilliant piece of hardware. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.
Even if it's not the most important thing, It's good to talk about this bracelet, because no one says it but I completely agree with the fact that the buckle does not stick and hangs. I would even say that the side of the nipple comes off when hanging up. Despite this and the other non-perfection, I love my Vertical titanium while having many Garmin and other brands
Good points. I want to like this device, and they are not true dealbreakers, but I can’t own too many watches as that will lead to some issues with my spouse 😆
I unfortunately had to get rid of my Forerunner as the ‘boss - my wife 😆’ said - you don’t need another watch!! Having them both, they have their pro’s and cons. Overall I like the hardwear and price on the Suunto - can’t beat sapphire for durability. For the Forerunner, it has better internals in my opinion and it’s hard to beat the Garmin ecosystem. Each very good in their respective ways. The HR is really terrible on the Suunto but I wear a chest strap HRM so I could care less.
@@rizkyadhi7959 well I sold my Forerunner as it was too ‘delicate’ for me. Ended up re-buying a new Race and liking it a lot despite the relatively minor problems. Still waiting for a firmware update. Thanks for your support! Cheers.
You’re welcome. According to DC Rainmaker, Suunto is supposed to be coming out with a firmware update (and may have already) to address the issue with the lag.
You’re not the only one. Everyone is saying about the lag. It’s actually worse on the Suunto vertical. But they bought everything in house now, including the the sports tracking algorithms. So hopefully they will release updates to resolve or at least make the issue better. But in this day and age lag shouldn’t really be a thing when even the likes of Polar have made great strides in fluidity of the OS. And Polar have like Suunto a long history with lag. Unfortunately it’s the very type of thing that will hit sales numbers hard. Everybody has said about this problem, so that really can’t be good!
I agree with you on all points. I love all the places to not spend the money, this is not one of them in my opinion. Thank you so much for taking the time to comment. I appreciate the support. Cheers.
Dave, thanks so much! Just stumbled on your channel...have been looking at this watch for months and I've seen the lag mentioned, but this was a great update on this issue. I started out with Suunto decades ago with an Advizor, upgraded to Ambit1 and then an Ambit3 which I really like and was thinking about the Spartan or the Vertical, but that's around when Suunto was going through all the goofiness with MovesCount and also seemed like there we nagging hardware issues, so I moved over to Garmin and the Fenix 6 Pro, which I do really like still but now looking for the next upgrade. The Race is (was?) a contender...Apple Ultra still isn't there yet...Coros is enticing, but I'd really like to return to Suunto. Maybe I'll wait to see IF their software upgrades have any effect on that lag issue or if they're stuck with it due to the current hardware configuration. Thanks again...looking forward to checking out your videos!
Thank you so much @hoffappfarm. Yes, I loved my Ambit and agree with the whole Movescount debacle. I think that made a few people upset. If they fix the lag in a firmware update, I would definitely go out and buy one. For now, it’s going back unfortunately. Thanks for watching - the support is appreciated! Cheers
i think the same the alg is an issue but not a deal breaker to me, the reliability is better piece of mind, the hardware itself being TOUGH that's what i'm looking into, zero chance after fucking around with some cheap apple watches i want a plastic non saphire garmin.. the saphire and titanium of my suunto 9 baro has proven me that this is the kind of device i want, a little bit of lag here and there i can deal with it. but battery being amazing and watch being tough if i run, mountaineer, climb or be clumsy that's a go to. the MAP for me is what i really want on this upgrade for a watch so many trails a stumble across and i'm wondering which fork i have to hit.. might go for the suunto race or i'd still pick the vertical for the CRAZY class leading batery life..
I like Suunto and I use to have the Suunto 7. This race se like a nice watch but, I am just not sold on the flat tyre design. The lack of bezel makes it look massive on any writ.
Yes everyone has their idea of what a nice device looks like to them. I do like the look of it, but not fond of the lag hence it being sent back. Thanks for your support and taking the time to comment. Appreciate it!
@@Dogwalkerdave I am sure they will fix the lag at some stage. All in all nice watch but I recon if it was a 44mm or 42mm it would probably appeal to more sports pepole.
I agree with the lag, it can be a dealbreaker, and it is hard to believe this is present on a 2023 watch. I expect minor hiccups here and there as these processors are not as powerful as the ones in smartwatches in order to save battery whenever possible, but not on every interaction and specially not on that much on an AMOLED display. You can probably get used to it as time goes by, but that should not be the point, and I am worried Suunto will not fix it, as the lags present in the Vertical for their release seem to still be present almost half a year later. On the touch functionality, I disagree to a point. Whereas the touch functionality is not helpful in many scenarios when you are doing your activities, and it can even become an annoyance in certain occasions, it is something I appreciate in my daily life when I'm not working out to interact with the watch. It does not have to be as responsive, as fast or as crisp as an AMOLED, but having the interaction helps a lot as you use the buttons only when you really need them, and they maintain their tact and 'clickiness' for longer. I have a Polar Grit X Pro, the touch display for some reason seems to go into sleep if you are not using it (maybe to save battery) so for the initial touch interaction you need to tap and hold the display for a fraction of a second before you make your first swipe in order to read it properly, and it works fine after that. Despite that being a letdown, you get used to it and after that, doing tasks such as reading notifications, setting alarms and timers or scrolling through menus is something that is simply faster and easier to do.
Thank you so much for taking the time to write all of this! Wonderful to hear the feedback. I really want to love it, but what I am hearing about the vertical and not sure if this can be addressed in a firmware update. Yes, the touch screen is nice when not working out, I just don’t use them often enough to make a huge difference in my use case. Thanks again. Appreciate the support!
Maybe not for you, but for most of us mortals lol, $600CAD is A LOT! But you probably mean and talk about the class of the device, compared to professional equipment? When my watch starts showing inaccurate heartrate, going way over, I start to freak out lol, so I do not like that. It really ought to have a decent heartrate measuring at that price imo.
@@Dogwalkerdave very true! I hope the false heartrate reading is an anomaly, and that it's addressed with updates. I really wish to invest into a pro level device, but I'm having such trouble deciding. So far the Garmin Venu3 pulls me, but no maps, so a 965 seems like a better choice, but it's way big and mad expensive for me, but I'm willing to invest. Or, I'll just have to see one in person to decide. Then came SUUNTO, lol, I've made a reall ass of myself at one other SUUNTO review and said "wthell is SUUNTO? Brands should at least establish themselves before charging so much" - well, turns out they've made pro measuring devices since 1936!!!! So I really made myself sound foolish, but as you have shown, it's really... Not... all that amazing, and could use some tweaks. Oy! I'll just have do more research. Thanks for the video and the reply ☺! 🍻 🍻
please check the speed on the maps of both watches. why don't you say that Suunto is faster here and Garmin is laggy? 21st century and maps are unusable🙃🤷🏻♂️fasten it higher and you won't have problem no. 2 anymore 🤣. I have 965 and sometimes the menu hangs... this review is strange
Thanks for the feedback. I have not found any issues with mapping on any Garmin and yes, I am not a Garmin fanboy by any stretch. I tried fastening it many ways and it still did not work out for me. To each is own though.
I was hoping for so much more. I’m not necessarily stuck with Garmin or any other device and you do pay a premium, but when it works, it works. Thanks for watching and taking the time to drop a comment. Appreciate the support!
Thank you but with my Garmin FR 645 I can use Spotify without my smartphone. Is it the same with Suunto Race or I need my smartphone when I’m running ?
I'm sorry that I'm spamming (I guess it's good for your video Metadata =-P), but yeah, that truly is a bad clasp, and they DO get caught up all the time, if they stick out like that, tsk tsk.... Lag,.. Is unacceptable. That price? Heck no.
No worries. You are not spamming! Totally valid points and as I mentioned, for what you get hardware wise is a very good deal (I know, as ridiculous as that sounds) but the processor experience - not good.
@@Dogwalkerdave Thanks!! I can believe that, it's a lot of great tech, maybe the s/w can be optimized, maybe at some negligable cost of battery...there's always something that can be done I guess, and I'm sure they will, it's not a random watch off aliexpress lol! I still wish to have the Garmin 965. 🍻 🍻!
It’s really unbelievable. Even my oldest Apple Watch is faster than this watch 😂. And when I see the very bad heart rate readings. The Apple Watch is from my point of view best in class there. It’s a shame that there are so many influencers out there. Happy to see that you can report freely. Thanks a lot 😊
My wife has an AW SE version 1 and it is more responsive and I’ve had many AW and Garmin devices and the heart rate monitoring, not being as good as my Polar chest strap, is very good. I’ve watched many reviews by the top TH-camr’s and they said the same thing about the HR readings on the Vertical. As I mentioned, not a deal breaker at all for me. Yes, the ‘freedom’ to not be influenced by a manufacturer to say what I want. Not sure if I want to cross over that line if my channel ever gets ‘big enough’. Thanks again for your input and feedback! Cheers.
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Hi Dave, thanks a lot for this video and your thoughts to Suunto Race.
Suunto said same to the suunto vertical. That they will fix the bugs in a firmware update and beg for patience. The update on my vertical comes at 2 month....but the lag is still there. Now i'm ordered the "race" and i'm very excited for the experience.
I hope the lag gets fixed but I feel it’s a processor issue. Case in point we have a seven year-old iPad at home that we still use and the lag is definitely noticeable nothing to do with the device itself. It’s just that the processor can’t handle any of the modern apps. Thanks for watching and thanks for your feedback.
You spun through the screen with minimal lag. All watches suck on HR unless you get a chest strap. The updates have worked for most users. You can easily change the strap. 965 costs a fair bit more and had plastic in the body. Race & vertical are both brilliant IMO.
@@adammillsindustries. the lag is minimal, but noticeable compared to other devices. TBH, the Apple Watches I’ve tested, along with many Garmins and others have better hr readings. That’s just my experience. I do agree that the 965 is not nearly the same as the race as far as build quality. Thanks for watching and sharing your experience/opinion. We can’t always agree on the opinion of users, but we can respect them 👍. Cheers, and all the best with the Race. If they fix the lag with firmware, I am really tempted to pick one up.
I have a 955 and Fênix 7 solar and when I bought Suunto Race I knew what I'm buying and the reasons why I'm buying. Instant pace a pace changes more reliable than Garmin, both in dual band frequency, better screen, ,less features we don't need, great build quality,and a small lag is a non problem. It's one of best Suunto watches and you arrive complaining about nitty gritty details. But well,is your perspective. In my point of view, Kudos to Suunto,made a great watch, with a beautiful display and great construction and way cheaper than the epix 2 , forerunner 965 etc. just seems that kind of reviewers who uses iPhone all the time and when review an android phone,give a negative review just for the fact he just stuck on Apple ecosystem. Baaaa
That’s the thing. Everyone has their opinion about everything and we can’t all agree. But that’s not a bad thing. I hope they update the firmware, and that will make all of the difference. Thanks for taking the time to comment.
Absolutely agree with you mate. Trust me I have been using the Suunto race and is a fantastic piece! Of course tye heart rate us bad but that is with most watches. I pair it with the most advanced fourth frontier X2 and vola you have the best of both worlds! The lag is not noticeable at all...at this.price point I will buy it again..no complaints
@@chirantanmukherji640 I ended up getting one again and have been using it for the last while. Yes, the screen is laggy as hell but for $600 CDN, the battery is amazing and the big bold sapphire screen is beautiful. I am swallowing my own review as we speak. Paired with a Polar HRM strap and it’s a joy to wear. Thanks for taking the time to comment! Cheers and Happy New Year.
Totally agree with your idea! I just bought the race yesterday. I love it.
I just purchased the Race like 2 months ago, and love it! Coming from Garmin Fenix
Agreed. After my initial frustration with a couple of small little things, it has been on my wrist for the last six months. For the price it is a brilliant piece of hardware. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.
You can't beat the Garmin 965, it's just amazing.
It is a great device as well. I had it and ended up selling it. I am too hard on watches and always bang up the screen. Sapphire all the way for me 😄
Even if it's not the most important thing, It's good to talk about this bracelet, because no one says it but I completely agree with the fact that the buckle does not stick and hangs. I would even say that the side of the nipple comes off when hanging up. Despite this and the other non-perfection, I love my Vertical titanium while having many Garmin and other brands
Good points. I want to like this device, and they are not true dealbreakers, but I can’t own too many watches as that will lead to some issues with my spouse 😆
good review mate for the honest review.
Thank you. 👍
I really appreciate if u can make a video about comparison about this watch and garmin 965 mate
I unfortunately had to get rid of my Forerunner as the ‘boss - my wife 😆’ said - you don’t need another watch!! Having them both, they have their pro’s and cons. Overall I like the hardwear and price on the Suunto - can’t beat sapphire for durability. For the Forerunner, it has better internals in my opinion and it’s hard to beat the Garmin ecosystem. Each very good in their respective ways. The HR is really terrible on the Suunto but I wear a chest strap HRM so I could care less.
Wohoho 🤣 thankyou for sharing because i still uncertain which watch should i buy 👍🏻
@@rizkyadhi7959 well I sold my Forerunner as it was too ‘delicate’ for me. Ended up re-buying a new Race and liking it a lot despite the relatively minor problems. Still waiting for a firmware update. Thanks for your support! Cheers.
Thanks for this. I am giving serious thought to buying the Suunto Race. All reviews are welcome
You’re welcome. According to DC Rainmaker, Suunto is supposed to be coming out with a firmware update (and may have already) to address the issue with the lag.
You’re not the only one. Everyone is saying about the lag. It’s actually worse on the Suunto vertical. But they bought everything in house now, including the the sports tracking algorithms. So hopefully they will release updates to resolve or at least make the issue better. But in this day and age lag shouldn’t really be a thing when even the likes of Polar have made great strides in fluidity of the OS. And Polar have like Suunto a long history with lag. Unfortunately it’s the very type of thing that will hit sales numbers hard. Everybody has said about this problem, so that really can’t be good!
I agree with you on all points. I love all the places to not spend the money, this is not one of them in my opinion. Thank you so much for taking the time to comment. I appreciate the support. Cheers.
Dave, thanks so much! Just stumbled on your channel...have been looking at this watch for months and I've seen the lag mentioned, but this was a great update on this issue. I started out with Suunto decades ago with an Advizor, upgraded to Ambit1 and then an Ambit3 which I really like and was thinking about the Spartan or the Vertical, but that's around when Suunto was going through all the goofiness with MovesCount and also seemed like there we nagging hardware issues, so I moved over to Garmin and the Fenix 6 Pro, which I do really like still but now looking for the next upgrade.
The Race is (was?) a contender...Apple Ultra still isn't there yet...Coros is enticing, but I'd really like to return to Suunto. Maybe I'll wait to see IF their software upgrades have any effect on that lag issue or if they're stuck with it due to the current hardware configuration.
Thanks again...looking forward to checking out your videos!
Thank you so much @hoffappfarm. Yes, I loved my Ambit and agree with the whole Movescount debacle. I think that made a few people upset. If they fix the lag in a firmware update, I would definitely go out and buy one. For now, it’s going back unfortunately. Thanks for watching - the support is appreciated! Cheers
i think the same the alg is an issue but not a deal breaker to me, the reliability is better piece of mind, the hardware itself being TOUGH that's what i'm looking into, zero chance after fucking around with some cheap apple watches i want a plastic non saphire garmin.. the saphire and titanium of my suunto 9 baro has proven me that this is the kind of device i want, a little bit of lag here and there i can deal with it. but battery being amazing and watch being tough if i run, mountaineer, climb or be clumsy that's a go to. the MAP for me is what i really want on this upgrade for a watch so many trails a stumble across and i'm wondering which fork i have to hit..
might go for the suunto race or i'd still pick the vertical for the CRAZY class leading batery life..
@@sullfolife all good points for sure. Enjoy it as well. The quality of the hardware is next level.
Got mine for $280…. It’s fine….. switch between this and the Garmin 965. I do like the overall aesthetic of this watch.
Wow. That must be some kind of discount? It is a beautiful device.
@@Dogwalkerdave yeah it was a good deal with the discount haha. So far I’m happy with it
I like Suunto and I use to have the Suunto 7. This race se like a nice watch but, I am just not sold on the flat tyre design. The lack of bezel makes it look massive on any writ.
Yes everyone has their idea of what a nice device looks like to them. I do like the look of it, but not fond of the lag hence it being sent back. Thanks for your support and taking the time to comment. Appreciate it!
@@Dogwalkerdave I am sure they will fix the lag at some stage. All in all nice watch but I recon if it was a 44mm or 42mm it would probably appeal to more sports pepole.
@@Ajajambo I hope they can fix it with firmware. And yes, the smaller size appeals to a lot of people as well.
I agree with the lag, it can be a dealbreaker, and it is hard to believe this is present on a 2023 watch. I expect minor hiccups here and there as these processors are not as powerful as the ones in smartwatches in order to save battery whenever possible, but not on every interaction and specially not on that much on an AMOLED display. You can probably get used to it as time goes by, but that should not be the point, and I am worried Suunto will not fix it, as the lags present in the Vertical for their release seem to still be present almost half a year later.
On the touch functionality, I disagree to a point. Whereas the touch functionality is not helpful in many scenarios when you are doing your activities, and it can even become an annoyance in certain occasions, it is something I appreciate in my daily life when I'm not working out to interact with the watch. It does not have to be as responsive, as fast or as crisp as an AMOLED, but having the interaction helps a lot as you use the buttons only when you really need them, and they maintain their tact and 'clickiness' for longer.
I have a Polar Grit X Pro, the touch display for some reason seems to go into sleep if you are not using it (maybe to save battery) so for the initial touch interaction you need to tap and hold the display for a fraction of a second before you make your first swipe in order to read it properly, and it works fine after that. Despite that being a letdown, you get used to it and after that, doing tasks such as reading notifications, setting alarms and timers or scrolling through menus is something that is simply faster and easier to do.
Thank you so much for taking the time to write all of this! Wonderful to hear the feedback. I really want to love it, but what I am hearing about the vertical and not sure if this can be addressed in a firmware update. Yes, the touch screen is nice when not working out, I just don’t use them often enough to make a huge difference in my use case. Thanks again. Appreciate the support!
Thanks for review sir...Im stick with garmin 😆😆
My pleasure. Thanks for watching and taking the time comment.
Maybe not for you, but for most of us mortals lol, $600CAD is A LOT! But you probably mean and talk about the class of the device, compared to professional equipment? When my watch starts showing inaccurate heartrate, going way over, I start to freak out lol, so I do not like that. It really ought to have a decent heartrate measuring at that price imo.
It’s all relative. Some devices are well over $1k CAD. Yes, it should read hr better at that price!
@@Dogwalkerdave very true! I hope the false heartrate reading is an anomaly, and that it's addressed with updates. I really wish to invest into a pro level device, but I'm having such trouble deciding. So far the Garmin Venu3 pulls me, but no maps, so a 965 seems like a better choice, but it's way big and mad expensive for me, but I'm willing to invest. Or, I'll just have to see one in person to decide. Then came SUUNTO, lol, I've made a reall ass of myself at one other SUUNTO review and said "wthell is SUUNTO? Brands should at least establish themselves before charging so much" - well, turns out they've made pro measuring devices since 1936!!!! So I really made myself sound foolish, but as you have shown, it's really... Not... all that amazing, and could use some tweaks. Oy! I'll just have do more research. Thanks for the video and the reply ☺! 🍻 🍻
Interesting that you've used HDR for this video recording, my phone switched to HDR screen mode even at the preview.
I hadn’t even noticed on my end. I have it set for 4K 30fps on an iPhone.
please check the speed on the maps of both watches. why don't you say that Suunto is faster here and Garmin is laggy? 21st century and maps are unusable🙃🤷🏻♂️fasten it higher and you won't have problem no. 2 anymore 🤣. I have 965 and sometimes the menu hangs... this review is strange
Thanks for the feedback. I have not found any issues with mapping on any Garmin and yes, I am not a Garmin fanboy by any stretch. I tried fastening it many ways and it still did not work out for me. To each is own though.
I think the lag’s getting fixed in the next update.
I hope so and it’s a firmware update and not a processor issue. Thanks for sharing your feedback and thanks for watching.
What do you think about the Suunto Vertical ?
I’ve not had it. From what I hear, excellent build quality, battery life but an even laggier interface.
Still no Update in Sight 😢
I know. Still happy with it overall but could use a firmware upgrade
Meh, I ordered this. It's coming Friday. Guess I'll send it back and stick to Garmin :D
I was hoping for so much more. I’m not necessarily stuck with Garmin or any other device and you do pay a premium, but when it works, it works. Thanks for watching and taking the time to drop a comment. Appreciate the support!
Uh, it seems really huge!
It is a big watch.
Hello,
Is it possible to have SPOTIFY on it ?
You can only control music from it - similar to a Garmin.
Thank you but with my Garmin FR 645 I can use Spotify without my smartphone. Is it the same with Suunto Race or I need my smartphone when I’m running ?
@@Cl3ment59 according to what I found from the Suunto website, you have to have your phone paired and with you.
Have you tried the Suunto vertical?
I had it for a day or two when it first came out and sent it back. Again, hardware was beautiful but the software lag was very noticeable.
@@Dogwalkerdave thanks I appreciate the feedback.
@@anthonyrampino7734 my pleasure. That’s just my experience but I believe many have the same. Thanks for watching. Appreciate the support. Cheers.
@@Dogwalkerdave cheers
I'm not going to give a negative review; this is sloppily edited, you don't give precise details, and you didn't use the thing in defined workouts
Thanks for the feedback.
I'm sorry that I'm spamming (I guess it's good for your video Metadata =-P), but yeah, that truly is a bad clasp, and they DO get caught up all the time, if they stick out like that, tsk tsk.... Lag,.. Is unacceptable. That price? Heck no.
No worries. You are not spamming! Totally valid points and as I mentioned, for what you get hardware wise is a very good deal (I know, as ridiculous as that sounds) but the processor experience - not good.
@@Dogwalkerdave Thanks!! I can believe that, it's a lot of great tech, maybe the s/w can be optimized, maybe at some negligable cost of battery...there's always something that can be done I guess, and I'm sure they will, it's not a random watch off aliexpress lol! I still wish to have the Garmin 965. 🍻 🍻!
Exactly! Suunto is personification of GUI lag. It is horribly rubbish ...
Yeah not acceptable in 2023. Or 2022. Or 2021 😆
It’s really unbelievable. Even my oldest Apple Watch is faster than this watch 😂. And when I see the very bad heart rate readings. The Apple Watch is from my point of view best in class there. It’s a shame that there are so many influencers out there. Happy to see that you can report freely. Thanks a lot 😊
My wife has an AW SE version 1 and it is more responsive and I’ve had many AW and Garmin devices and the heart rate monitoring, not being as good as my Polar chest strap, is very good. I’ve watched many reviews by the top TH-camr’s and they said the same thing about the HR readings on the Vertical. As I mentioned, not a deal breaker at all for me. Yes, the ‘freedom’ to not be influenced by a manufacturer to say what I want. Not sure if I want to cross over that line if my channel ever gets ‘big enough’. Thanks again for your input and feedback! Cheers.
Key difference: Battery life.
@@robcarhood true
That clasp is stupid! Rookie mistake😖
Absolutely!
If someone want swap with my garmin instinct..i dont want swap
With this rubbish suunto..😂😂