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Cyberpunk 2077 winning best ongoing game is a joke. The game is still "ongoing" because it launched so bug riddled that they had to release patch after patch just to get it into a place where it should have been at launch. Even more annoying, the DLC was nominated for a few GAME awards. It's not a game it's downloadable content for a game.
The Game Awards were bloated as hell this year, and they didn’t even give the awards the proper amount of emphasis. The celebrities should’ve been cut down a bit, and the ads not related to the show should’ve been trimmed.
My heart goes out to Sven and his team. You'd think he'd be over the moon BG3 got GOTY, but during his acceptance speech, he just sounded sad. Imagine paying tribute to your deceased teammates during an awards speech, only to have the host tell you to hurry up. Disgraceful...
lmfao its an advertisement show, the awards are fake. They were like 5% of the actual show. Nobody making the show cares about the games not being paid for. The "awards" part is stapled on to make people think it's an important show. it is not. There is no actual achievement for getting an advertisement show award lol. Any dev who thinks otherwise is drinking their own Kool-Aid.
What's so ironic to me is that Geoff Keighley originally started The Game Awards as a reaction to the Spike TV VGAs (Video Game Awards) which became bloated with musical performances, ads, and things that had nothing to do with awarding video games. He originally wanted an awards ceremony which respected the art of video games. And now he's become what he originally hated. Well done Geoff.
no he did not want to respect the art of video games he just wanted to rub elbows with celebrties notice this man has never talked about games he enjoys or anything its all about his own narcissistic drive to be in the spotlight
Seems like the usual evolution with everything in the games industry. Look at how many companies that were beloved at one time that are now despised at almost EA levels because they became the worst parts of corporate
He is and always has been a sellout, there’s a reason they call him the Doritos king. He’s most known for that image where he’s sitting dead eyed while loads of halo 4 and Doritos promotions are placed directly behind him
I can get it. Also and I don't think it's a purposeful thing. I mean gaming isn't their scene so it makes sense but I think plenty of them drink before going on stage. @@theirresponsibleghost7748
Its really concerning just how much power advertisers have nowadays to the point that even Swen's heartfelt speech for deceased members of his team gets hit with the "Please wrap it up" teleprompter
Yeah I don't think that's an advertiser thing. I think that is a greed thing on the part of the organizers of the event and the guests who got payed to show up.
@@TemperansIt is an advertiser thing. They have the power to make the organisation put them as a top priority and not give a shit about actual stuff in the show.
@@mawangshallhang Advertisers have as much power as the people running the event are willing to give. So no, it is not an "advertiser thing" but a "greed thing". If an event planner decides that the advertisers should have top priority is because they are greedy and are more worried about making a profit than running a good event.
Imagine being a legendary dev finally being allowed to pour your heart out in recognition of your amazing achievement, and then some teleprompter tells you to "wrap it up".
@@Spiky-gs3eg Then they should've cut down on the shitty ads to provide more time to the actual reason why people are there in the first place. Nobody cares about bob whipperdippers new movie coming out.
Then the show is too long. They should have different days for different types of games. E.g. mobile (small screen) on one day, desktop, console and VR (big screen) on another day. Or a single player / multiplayer split. I mean we don't have TV and film awards in the same event. The point stands that it's poor that the industry awards don't give enough time to say anything meaningful. It should be a celebration of achievement and a chance for the best in the industry to speak to their peers and the next generation of game devs.
30 seconds is undoubtedly an egregiously short amount of time, I don't care how many awards or announcements they have to get through. It's only a once-a-year event and it exists to celebrate developers.
The teleprompter was telling them to wrap it up before they could even start unwrapping in the first place. The timer started as soon as they went on stage, let alone got in position and waited for people to settle down. What a disgrace. The organizers should be utterly ashamed of this display.
What? Game Awards is merely a platform for advertisements and don't really care about giving game developers the credit they deserve? Color me surprised.
Pay cuts, getting laid off, decisions of executives, taking the fall for bad directors, harassment, S-assault, unfair treatment, crunch, no paid time off, bonuses taken away, metric cutting and now the game awards is shitting on them too. This is disgusting behaviour to treat developers who put a lot of time and effort and struggled while putting up with a lot of crap from all sides this and really hurts their moral by telling them to "please wrap it up" like they are not important while giving others special treatment.
that's capitalism baby, the workers get shafted and the rich ad corporations get to decide what happens and what not, even if people died they get to be 'wrapped up'
@@budderk1305 Way to make it about capitalism. It's just poor showmanship. Besides, under capitalism, these people could quite literally just make their own. It's not that hard, though it does require taking a risk.
@@xX_Pokeman_XxWe should face it already; It's the fault of money. The best way to make money is to abuse others, that's just how it is. And that's all they care about; making money.
@@xX_Pokeman_Xx of course this is about capitalism. How naive are you? The main reason why TGA this year were how they were was profit and greed, prioritizing profit and advertizing future products to be sold over the actual premise of the awards show. Just because you don't like challenging such societal norms or even talking about them, because that's probably "tOo PoLItiCaL" for your taste, does not change the fact, that Capitalism as a system encourages such behaviour.
@@SirGofres No, it really isn't. In a capitalistic society, the best way to make money is to make a product people want, that's how it is. These people don't *care* about money either, otherwise they'd make a product actually worth watching. What happened was poor showmanship, not capitalism in action.
Except most of the graduates wouldn't even get to go on stage to accept their diploma, someone would just say their name and not even give them a chance to take pictures from their seats before moving onto someone else who also wouldn't be called up
At least in my graduation, the awards announced first when everyone paid attention and not the monotone boring part in the back. The biggest celebrity in a Game -fking- Awards are the -fking- Game Developers.
The way Neil, Sven, and the entire Baldur's Gate 3 team -- who were acknowledging their fans and their deceased colleague -- were treated was disgusting and disgraceful. I'm STILL fuming over that.
@@kylewood4488-b9r Yup, it was Jim who worked in the cinematics department, and he died just last month after getting diagnosed with cancer last year. It's a shame that the team had to rush through their speech like that. I could tell the emotion and the pain in knowing their close colleague wouldn't be able to see this moment, but nope...just had to get rushed. Quite sad seeing how devs were just rushed off like that, hopefully Geoff and whoever's behind this show learn from this.
Totally agree with them being upset. Imagine if the Academy Awards started showcasing upcoming movie trailers & announcements rather than giving time to the talent & the actual awards, that's how TGA felt this year. When movie stars get more time than the game devs, you know the show has failed on what it's supposed to be.
I don't even mind the Christopher Judge speech he gave last year. It may have been overly long but it was passionate and honest. Actually seeing him tear up a bit on stage after winning was a powerful moment of true sincerity which is something all too lacking in the current games industry. So often everything feels cooperate in the main stream space and his speech absolutely wasn't it was real and showed the real human behind the character we love.
Yeah Geoff saw that as a failure he had to overcorrect instead of a genuine moment that elevated his show and that people were talking positively about. Now because of the way he ran his show people will take it much less seriously next year. Probably more no-show award winners.
Gotta love how Judge came out and made a joke about not going for too long but also telling them to say what they have to say and then having to witness that BS happening. I can only imagine how pissed off he must have been.
Imagine if the music awards didn’t let artists speak after winning awards but allowed record label companies to speak more about artist next project rather than the ones we are here to celebrate.
@@Nightcrawler90210 That only proves that we have a big issue with the system we are living in. Those who puts all the effort and some times get ill due to the pressure at work gets no recognition. At least Larian Studios had a deserved space in the media here in Belgium after they won it.
@@Jabler- not there isn’t its just that individual game developers don’t have influence if people are gonna buy a game like an artist has when they sell an album or a director or actor with a film. Development studios are giant team with hundreds of so the value of each isn’t that great. Sam houser left rockstar but that didn’t stop people from getting hype for gta6. Game devs don’t have influence only the game brand and maybe the studio
That’s something I noticed while watching, felt like the majority of the awards were just rushed through without second thought, not allowing people to give a speech. This especially hurt when they gave out best independent game to cocoon, an award meant to celebrate the little guys in the industry, and yet we didn’t even get to see the developer, let alone get to hear from them.
This year's TGA was embarrassing to watch. I have mixed feelings about the layoff situation, but not allowing developers even a minute to accept an award at an awards show is absolutely unacceptable. If this isn't addressed and changed before the next TGA, I will no longer be tuning in.
Just as it was with E3, the Game Awards ha shifted from its original purpose. In the Game Award's case, it has shifted from celebrating great games of the past year to an advertisement spot for corporations. More advertisements, more celebrities to appease the celebrate worshiping crowd, and less of the celebration of great games. It's been getting worse each year.
At some point, they might remove most trailers away. I'm glad I don't keep on check with these awards. I'm just checking everything after the event on IGN.
I agree, it was so obvious they were rushing speeches and even awards so they could advertise games. Look at all the categories they put together and just got rid of them in like 5 seconds each so they could have 3 hours worth of game ads.
It's Geoff Keighley, Summer Game Fest is just as infested with hollywood garbage and ads as The Game Awards. Look at this year's Golden Joystick Awards to see how it should be done.
@Clam_Chowder1995 I think they meant in regards to the ratio of time provided for devs who won awards to give speeches VS ad time and time dedicated to other non game award related stuff
They rush the literal award winners but Hollywood celebrities nobody cares about get all the time they want to ramble on about god knows what. It's a complete joke, and honestly great to see devs calling it out.
I think Sven was too stunned by how they treated him to remember to announce the Xbox release, personally. I know I would be if I was treated like that. They deserve a chance to say their piece, especially if they won the damn award.
@@Spike2276 The GOTY final award winner should have like 10 minutes to talk imo. They earned the biggest award, so they should have more time to thank everyone involved imo.
@@HauntakuTV Especially this year when Larian got screwed out of an on-stage best RPG before winning the GOTY And like i said, it's the last thing, if people don't want to hear a long speech they can just tune out of it at that point, god knows no one is staying for the post show ads
the fact to how stacked and fierce the competition was this year for goty they deserved the more time to start with excluding the other dravistes it was insane goty battle this year that's for sure unlike last year xd with sweeps it was very balanced imo
So it is not just TH-cam prioritizing ads above actual creators and content, it's the VGA doing it too and screwing over hard-working developers that made these quality products.
Well, it is because I did a little digging. My guess is that they want to damage control the game industry to make it not that bad that everything’s not that bad not to mention with the whole layoffs that happened this year they want to damage control it.
@@kevingame3198 Probably because a lot of the industry is failing, with releases like Gollum, Kong and now The Day Before, which I suspect Yong Yea is going to make a future video on that travesty.
There are shows not filled with ads. Like the Golden Joystick Awards, where developers are pretty much allotted the whole show. The Game Awards are just terrible, it's just a giant ad fest with hollywood celebs.
CDPR's biggest Cyberpunk sin was not the sorry state of the initial launch, it's that they forever cursed the industry. They pulled off a lightning-in-a-bottle thing with Keanu Reeves, and now, every year, we have to be subjected to a new celebrity bumbling around trying to recapture the iconic "you're breathtaking" moment and failing miserably. That's why I loved Timothee Chalamet during the TGA this year. Went up, no stupid bits, gave a straight up announcement, got the hell out in record time. That was class. Anthony Mackie and Simu Liu take some mf-ing notes, you need them.
If they pull shit like this next year, everybody is obligated to act as the teleprompter for things they don't care to see outside of who won which award and shout in unison *WRAP IT UP!* And then, _keep on doing it_ until they get the message we're not there to watch ads and hear jokes, but see devs who pour their heart and soul into a work. If the organizers think they're not worth the time, we should provide _direct_ input declaring what we think isn't worth our time, too.
@@rosesweetcharlotte honestly - I never thought of that - that would be pretty damn amazing and a good balance to those who say celebs are needed for the mainstream That’s a great idea eh- tweet that to ol Geoff
Its disgusting how Larian are treated like such a nuisance in the games industry. They genuinely did something amazing and slayed giants in terms of AAA companies by making a better game than any of them could for the last few years, but it feels like they just get treated by the industry as annoying obstacles to their money wells (the consumers). The entitlement to our cash and the disrespect for legitimately passionate developers is egregious and unacceptable. This is why the games industry needs an overhaul/reboot.
I wasn't expecting the Game Awards to mirror the current situation in the videogame industry: the prioritization of generation of all possible revenue at the cost of the denigration of the actual ground workforce. I'm not exactly the target audience for the show but I totally felt it was really shameful for developers, to the point I wouldn't want to be invited ever again if I worked in the industry. I'd rather have the recognition in written and be done with it.
I do think the game award show also need more making-off footage and interviews of the games that are nominated. To show viewers why certain games are so special and how much hard work went in making them.
Sometimes people can forget there are human beings who created this game, especially the ones who works with their passion… if actors can be celebrated why not devs and voice actors? I am so pissed…
The most infuriating part about this years Game Awards is that there was no mention of the thousands of game devs who got laid off this year alone. If you want to celebrate game devs you need to stand up for them first.
Boo hoo people get fired welcome to the real world. Also this the same award show that ignored the Activision situation, and the host his opening speech about oNliNe HaRrEsSmEnT😂
@@Nightcrawler90210 Nice to know you're a corporate bootlicker. It makes no sense for this year to be so successful in gaming and yet have thousands of game devs lose their jobs.
@@223Drone tf do want them to do? Mourn them like they died? 😂 gaming jobs have NEVER been easy to consistently secure and a lot of developers are very easily replaceable, it’s not a high valued position, most of them can find another job else where it’s not that hard😂
@@Nightcrawler90210 Either you're a kid who never experienced the real world (based on your emojis), or you're someone who never experienced the soul-crushing period of job search that 99% of working adults have to go through to look for jobs that compensate fairly for your needs, in a corporate environment where job security for programmers/engineers is at its worst. Either way, you sound too immature to contribute to this discussion.
@@StarMiners0416 again booo fukin hoo people get fired, you are not special because you are game developer. Everyone has gotten fired from a job, it’s not worth bringing up at an award show
The fact that we had such amazing games on display and being honored was a joy to behold but I hated the time constraints on the speeches this time. I understand why but not even allowing BG3's team to pay respects to their fallen member (who passed away during the development) with extra time to honor his time and contribution, felt like a knife to the heart. Especially when they had a giant prompter giving them 30 seconds for their entire speech and was asking them to "wrap it up".
Seriously! There were whole games this year that could have swept in previous years with a lot of lower quality games that only won one or two awards. BG3 could easily have taken all their awards home if the competition hadn’t been so good this year. There was no excuse for this besides money. Wrap it up, ads.
Makes me wonder why no one has just put time limit on the spot by going up to the mic, saying "thanks for the award" and keep it moving lol. Also I'm talking about the game awards specifically, dunno if that was done with other award shows.
@Raytheus no it isn't. No one wants to hear a random dev jerk himself off for 10 mins. Accept your shitty award and give a quick 1-2 min speech, preferably 30 seconds
The gaming industry is one of the most clear examples of corproate corruption and ineptitute. We're seeing big conpanies make mistake, make money yet punish the actual workers. These awards are such a condensed manifestation of this. Big suit guys wanting celebs to do their thing, which we don't want, whilst silencing devs.... So embarrassing.
I remember many years ago articles about game companies using prostitutes to favor good reviews from game site publications. It’s been that way for a long time.
The Game Awards has always been like this. They’ve always given the sloppiest blowjobs to AAA games that make highly unoriginal, uninspired, copy-pasted formulas of games while giving token mentions to indie games that _are_ original, inspired and unique games.
In what universe did they ever think 30 seconds was going to be a enough time? 90 seconds should have been the default. Regular celebrities shouldn't even be a factor in at the Game Awards and they're probably just there because they're getting desperate for attention.
I'm honestly surprised it took this long for people to get angry. The game awards have never been an awards show, just a series of adverts masquerading as one
I find it disappointing that they feature less and less about the game studios. This is one of the few times where they can be in the spotlight and it’s telling how much time is given to celebrity actors and promoters. The game creators are taking the time to be there and should they win, they deserve to speak on that gratitude. Announcements are cool, but there are so many other venues for that.
The winners speeches being cut short especially Sven's speech about his devs that passed away telling them to "Please Wrap it up" was just disgusting. While giving off Hollywood celebrities like discount Captain Clarence free reign to be obnoxious and promote his stupid show,at least Timothee Chalamet and Matthew McConaughey were behaving like professional actors. Geoff kissing Kojima's a::: again, giving 10 minutes talking about literally nothing. And the Orchestra performance was short,not playing FIND THE FLAME,and not giving them a standing ovation was just disgusting.
Sorry it's not disgusting they don't have time to do a hour long talk about the devs that passed away I get it's very sad but the show was too long if it was 2 days then it'd have been better for that speech
@@Spiky-gs3egThey gave Kojima over 10 minutes talking about nothing. With that length of time, 20 or more people can say their 30 second speeches. Think about it...
@@Spiky-gs3egit is disgusting. Yes and your long speech is annoying, but for example, Christopher judge introducing Neil newborn was longer then Neil's speech. Neil's was 50 seconds before they told him to wrap it up
Disgusting is such a overused adjective. There are better ways to describe the crappy situation because disgusting doesn't really fit here. Not everything you disagree with has to be disgusting.
agreed, but since then gaming has gone down the hill because publishers and investors have almost complete control, developers no longer have any say in the games they make. but this year was one of the best in recent gaming history. which is saying something since at least this year we got something good out of it. with BG3 winning game of the year i hope it shows what gamers actually want. and that gamers are the important part of this industry, not the corporate shit holes who dont give a rats ass if a game fails.@@12ealDealOfficial
Geoff: “We are out of E3, they just think about money and celebrities” Also Geoff: “No time for dev speeches, only Kojima, celebrities and Fortnite ads on our show”
Game Awards: Has some mo-cap guy say "F*** The Oscars!" on stage. Also Game Awards: Gets Oscar award winning talent like Al Pacino and Chris Nolan to be at the show.
@@tomatochip7923 From what I understand, it was very impossible for that to happen. If you came from the audience, you could only be two people. So unless he came with someone from backstage, he would never get the chance.
@@lordkardok666 The higher security is definitely much welcome of course, for the safety of everyone there. But now looking at the way they are handling the awards, kinda makes you wish that the harmless pranks could continue lol.
I really felt sad for Eiji Aonuma, he really wanted to give his speech and sounded so joyful but at the end got cut off bc of the stupid 30 seconds timer. Life isn't fair
I love hideo kojima but they gave him like 30 mins explaining almost nothing about his new game. Meanwhile the people who won like 30 seconds to make a speech. It was disrespectful
If the viewership and interest in the game awards is declining, it’s because of the content. They’re not giving the fans watching what they want to see. They want to hear from the people that developed their favorite games.
i’m 99 percent sure most gamers watching the awards only care about the trailers. That’s the main appeal of them. Same way most people who watch movies/tv shows don’t care about how they were made or anything of the sort.
why are celebrities even there???, its not really for them and i have a feeling most gamers would want to hear about announcements or awards. this isnt the fucking golden globes.
The problem is that the audience, and in particular the online audience is responsible for how much time is spent on which segment. Most people who watch the game awards skip forward to the game announcements and don't pay attention to the award segments. This is not the fault of the showrunners. They just take the statistics from the last show and propagate where they spend the money and time in the next show. But to make it better, the game award show should only allow the winners and nominees to show their trailers, and all the other trailers should be an additional show.
They had 4 goddamn Fortnite ads…FOUR. There was genuinely so much overkill in the ads and all that that when devs even tried to come up, they found it necessary to allow 4 ads for the same game instead of letting developers talk about and thank those involved in their games
It was far more important to see Geoff Keely talk to Gonzo in a skit than it was to hear the acceptance of the game of the year or that Masayoshi Soken won best musical score or, you know, hear any examples of that music. As far as Anthony Mackie, Alanah Pierce said there was actually a lot of heckling going on that the stream viewers couldn't hear. Even so, he used up valuable time for more muppet cameos.
For me the biggest show of disrespect was to Neil Newbon. You can tell he wanted to say more but was polite about it as they forced him to keep his speech short and sweet.
actually the worst show in the history of tga looked like every dev who gave a speech was afraid security's gonna escort them out of the building if they went on for too long Sam Lake is a gaming industry icon, why are they cutting him off 30 seconds after he went up stage this is the game AWARDS ffs (also Neil Druckmann going ok clock's ticking was really funny)
The thing that was wild about the "speedrun" portion of the awards was that I watched him list like six or seven awards in a row, and the list popped up next to his head...and for the first five awards the first nominee listed at the top of the screen won. Like they forgot to randomize it. Then it changed up for the last two. It just screamed that they didn't care about the awards.
Actually, the game awards have always done this, it's nothing new. Even when they were the VGAs on Spike, they still had the same concept, have 90 percent be trailers, celebrities, and advertisements, while zooming through the awards as a compilations. This is why awards from other major gaming media, such as IGN (don't know if they still have yearly awards), are considered much more accurate by gamers
I was glad that Sea of Stars won Best Indie, it was a really fun game, but its a shame no one from the team even got a chance to be seen. The only recognition they got was the award being read off a list rapid fire style in the middle of other awards.
I think it's disrespectful, asinine and dumb to give the developers 30 seconds they should have more time. Also, some games were just rattled out like best RPG where was the physical game award for the developers to come on and get? I hate that.. Get rid of the Muppets no one cares about that s*** 😥
Absolutely not. The would destroy pacing, bore viewers, and back when they weren’t timed all the internet did was complain and ask for more trailers. Devs need 90 seconds max. The show is much closer to a perfect balance here, just need 90 seconds and not 30
@@lionzcrown1702 The only reason people wanted more trailers is because the show isn't a good "Awards show". The show should be about the awards and developers, not about world premiers, celebrity showings, advertisements and the such. I agree 8 minutes or so last year was bad for Christopher Judge, but 3 minutes is plenty, but encourage 90 seconds. 90 seconds base, 3 minutes max. Rushing the developers, many of whom are probably very emotional from winning an award, just looks bad also. It's essentially "Here's your award, say thanks, now get the fuck off my stage you stain".
This goes to show yet again that the Game Awards are just an advertisement billboard that doesn't really care about video games or developers and artists. The whole point of an award ceremony is to reward the efforts and creativity of the people who contribute to the art form. The fact that less than 10% of the time of the ceremony is dedicated to them tells you all you need to know.
Thank you for helping shed light on this. I was wondering what the heck was going on with the Game of the Year award speech being so short/rushed feeling.
Development teams should be the ones getting awards for sure. There are still places for voice actors and such, but the people who are responsible for delivering the final product deserve more recognition
Mackie’s time on stage was seriously painful to watch. It felt like he was desperately trying to get a “you’re breathtaking” moment and wouldn’t stop rambling until he got it
Honestly, there needs to be a dress rehearsal for the awards at this point. Give an hour and a half to the awards and speeches, 30 minutes for ads, an hour for world reveals, and that would leave 30 mins for the orchestral performances. Boom done
Imagine not being able to make a big announcement like BG3 being available on xbox now. I don’t see how this is hard to see coming, big corporations are ruining everything this is why AAA companies are starting to fail whilst more passionate dev teams are coming up.
There's a reason I've called it The Game Advertisements for a few years now. It's really amazing though that this year, the Controversy Moment wasn't some guy going off-script, or someone sneaking up on stage, it was the awards being entirely sidelined.
Agreed. It's The GAME Awards, not The Ads / Winners Awards. If the winners only has 30 seconds to speak then why bother with the live awards? Might just announced the winners from internet and called it a day.
I completely understand they need sponsors and showcases/commercials to be able to put the event on. I also completely understand that they can't let people ramble, because there is a schedule. But for fucks sake how hard is it to put out an email to the nominees beforehand saying "hey, speeches are being limited to two/three minutes, just fyi, we're gonna be strict about it." And if someone does start rambling then you can break out the teleprompter. It's called the GAME AWARDS, let's at least make the focus be on the games being awarded and let the devs/winners enjoy their moment. I think it's safe to say their fans want to see them savor it and hear what they have to say! No offense to the celebs and entertainment. They're very talented. But I literally don't care about them at all and they add nothing to the show imo. I'm here to see the artists, developers, actors, writers, etc who worked hard be awarded for it. Not to see them being swept off the stage after 30 seconds because we gotta fit one more fucking ad spot in.
The way Neil Newbon basically had to yell over the music to try and acknowledge the BG3 players who've said they feel seen by the game and to tell them they're not alone just breaks my heart. He literally asked for one moment to say something important when the music started playing and they didn't cut it off. The way The Game "Awards" treated literally everyone who won an award is disgusting, especially when you have something like the Golden Joystick awards to compare it to
And apparently, people who were in person didn't even hear the end of his speech. There's a clip floating around on Twitter from someone who was in the audience and they fully cut the mic, leaving the "You are not alone in this" part of his speech unheard by audience members. You can see Neil leaning towards the mic and saying something, but you cannot hear even a little bit of what he says. And Geoff said "no one was cut off" smh
@@astromechas wait, for real??? That's so disgusting. The wrap it up sign and music were bad enough already even though Neil started the speech saying he didn't have a lot of time. Obviously he wasn't going to stand there for ten minutes after that disclaimer. I can't imagine how disheartening that must feel for him to have his accomplishments brushed aside like they don't matter in favor of a freaking fortnite ad
@@Akeyins Yeah, it's absolutely crazy. It's wild to me that creators got their speeches cut short and certain categories were awarded rapid-fire all so that we could get a bunch of nothing-burger cinematic trailers for games that aren't even tangible concepts yet.
@@astromechas Ugh, right? Imo, if there isn't gameplay in the trailer or the release window is completely unknown, it has no business being there. If the game awards are truly so stretched for time that they can't allow people to have more than 30 seconds to talk before telling them to wrap it up, then they need to get rid of some of the bloat ads. Otherwise they may as well just rebrand to the new E3 instead of masquerading as an awards ceremony where almost 2/3 of the winners were read off by Geoff like they were items on a grocery store list
I knew it was gonna be bad after that one, especially given what Astarion's story is about and that Neil has talked about it in other speeches and interviews. Just really insulting and in extremely poor taste.
How have we gotten to a point where an awards show prioritises monetisation over acceptance speeches? The devs, voice actors and musicians may as well not bother accepting the awards in person or showing up full stop if they’re not gonna be given time to say their speeches.
The biggest kick in the gut to me is that all these announcements and trailers shown I’ve seen today through ads. The thing that’s gonna be seen way more often and actually marketed still got more time at the award show over the already made games and developers who made them . Cringe Keely
Game Awards not caring about devs work and prioritizes more about money, ads and forced celebrities cameos at the devs expense? I'm shocked! Truly shocked!
Honestly it feels like a representation of what Blizzard has become and we all know how their reputation has been recently lol. Too focused on profit and using stupid celebrity marketing instead of focusing on the actual games. (Also, that's not a dig at the devs but rather the people who decide what they want to prioritize)
@@ServantBerserkerZeroEven without the controversy, the game was kinda meh. idk if that's just overall quality game, or me simply not being Harry Potter fan in general.
The fact that there are so many award compilations where they just run through a bunch of awards without any fanfare or acceptance shows where their priorities are. They don't care about the awards or the devs.
As someone that was chosen to be an official co-streamer, I was upset too. I had no time to talk about any of the games or awards with my chat, and a 3.5 hour show is way too long without an intermission. Even movies in the theatre aren't that long. My chat kept saying that they wanted to hear more of the devs, and was jeering almost everyone else. We also wanted to make a guessing game for who would win, and the awards were announced so quickly that we couldn't. I would rather have a much longer time slot with a decently paced show and a break in the middle. They should have respect for the devs and the co-streamers both (with devs as the priority, of course). Also, the writer of the skit between the host and Gonzo should write the entire show. That was the only talking part that I enjoyed, and the only skit with jokes that were actually funny. Or just have the entire Muppet cast be the hosts for the whole thing.
If everyone got what they wanted it would easily be 5-6 hours. The balance will NEVER be achieved. It’s just going to go back and forth each year between what twitter decides to bitch about this time.
@@keithmichael112There’s a difference between letting someone speak forever and giving people more than just 30 seconds. Even a minute or minute and a half would be better without impacting the run time much
Unbelievable. The people who put their hearts and souls into making the games are given less time on stage that glorified adds is just... unacceptable. I would not be surprised if folks in the crowd started chanting 'wrap it up' during the add spots purely out of spite next time. The devs deserve so much more time and love.
It's all money, take it to your friends and embrace the award. All of this, oscars, grammy, all of these awards are for promotion and whatnot. Peeps take these too personal.
@@Dabrownman1812it shouldn't be. It was the Game Awards ffs. That's a very capitalistic thing. Greed can be found everywhere but nowhere as much as in the USA
@@TerrariaLuvrLate as Hell but I'm pretty sure Darkwater's talking about Games Done Quick. Yearly challenge for Indie devs, studios and the like to make rapid-fire games centered around a theme, lots of charity events happen at the same time too. A number of past contestants and winners such as Baba is You are sometimes even further developed/given extra content beyond the challenge too if they're received well and the devs are passionate enough. There are also speedrun competitions and such too, it's a fun event. And yes they'll livestream it on here and on Twitch, I think both handles are just "gdc"
@@TerrariaLuvr my bad I was over here talking about Games Done Quick LOL GDC is the Game Developers' Choice Awards, used to be called the Spotlight Awards in the late 90s. And before _that_ event there's the Independent Games Festival Actually smooth brained getting the events mixed up on my end lmao (Edit: they do still stream the events on both here + Twitch and post about it p much everywhere, all you need to look for is GDC Awards. It's held around March/April for the most part and like GDQ is mostly Indie content but still worth checking out)
I get they don't want to have another judge situation taking over 8 minutes, but c'mon. Allow them to atleast thanx the team and the fans. We already could see that they would be going in this direction when they start rushing through several categories in rapid succession without any award handout. But I also kinda put blame on us the audience. So many keep yelling "Boring, don't care about awards we want more trailers!" Well, here is the result. I also don't really get all the movie star power. We have our own super stars so why are we reliant of the stars of a whole different industry.
Just want to say that it felt very weird that Kojima was hyping up OD as this "new" experience because it "merges live-action and video games" for 10 minutes straight when Alan Wake 2 was literally at the same show and up for game of the year.
It’s so disgusting how these game developers are being disrespected. These people have busted their asses to make their games. Some of them have passed away and when they finally get a chance to speak, they’re told to just “wrap it up”. It’s so deplorable. If these game developers don’t get treated with respect, then we shouldn’t even have the game awards at all.
everyone getting rushed off the stage during their emotional victory speeches was a big oof moment every time it happened. TGA really should have extended the show to allow for more speech time.
I think Geoff is aware of it but at this point is just happy he still has this job every year. The thing about TGA it's purpose is to celebrate Video Games as a medium that everyone can appreciate, but year after year I see EVIL behind the scenes and I think it just has to do with all the corruption behind the scenes with Hollywood, social media and the Elites likely trying to control what we consume.
Developers do need more than 30 seconds. We owe them that for all their hard work and dedication to making good games. I can imagine making video games is no easy task.
I work on the corpo side of AV and handle some pretty big corporate conferences and keeping those people on time leads us to treading on some big ice not trying to get people to stick to time and always having a chain of command to go through to decide how aggressively we try to push that though. “Wrap it up and that flashing” is definitely not the way you want to get people off a stage.
The first couple of years of the Game Awards seemed to understand the assignment, have an avenue where hard work of developers and game studios could be appreciated and recognized. As time went on they horribly have taken the wrong lesson. Game announcements are fine and I get ads are a necessary evil, but I'm there to learn the developers journey and what this award means to them. The developers stopped being the focal point of this show in the past 4 or so years. I don't know how Geoff claims to be a lover of games when he won't even stand up for the developers at his own show. Truly disappointing. At this point there's no great reason to watch. I don't need to be part of the utter disrespect of folks who are already facing constant struggles of an abusive industry. I was hoping they could feel celebrated and clearly the developers have spoken out and have stated the opposite.
The problem is the same thing that is happening in the gaming industry right now, gamers aren’t running things, investors, CEO’s, and advertisers have the keys to running things. If the game awards didn’t have votes then we all wouldn’t pay it any mind because it’d just be advertisements and announcements, which we’d have/had E3 for (and E3 had so much more beyond the announcements and advertisements for up and coming games.)
This country's need to continuously suck off advertisers and let them rule everything, including politics, is gross and has been getting worse every damn year. I'm just so fucking tired at this point. Really, really tired.
The "priority" was clearly for Geoff to make as much money as their possibly is. That was the point for him, everything he complained about with E3 was just a lie. What he really wanted was more money. And this awards show exemplifies his greed.
The Game Awards are not about developers and how hard they work. The Game Awards are about Jeff Keighley and his ability to show off new games exclusively saved for the show. He doesn't give a shit about the devs.
What makes it so egregious is how much time the announcers wasted on stupid jokes and rambled, the amount of time spent on advertisements and sponsors, but god forbid someone pays tribute to someone who died during development.
It really is a shame because the show itself was great, great reveals, all the awards felt deserved, but because if the egregious time limit in acceptance speeches, it didn't feel like a celebration of the amazing year it's been😕 Hoping they rectify this next year
You know, what if the devs didnt show up to the game awards next year? What if instead of being brushed off in front of thousands of people, the devs went home. What if next year the devs spend time with their families. Fuck your game awards, vapid shallow silcone trophies draped with adverts and hollow platitudes. Devs spend that time with your family next year, because they love you and you matter to them. Theres nothing you can create that will be worth the praise of soulless corps and their meaningless posturing they call gratitude. Your vision, artistry hard work, and worth is too great a gift. Give it to your loved ones instead.
Yes I agree, I'm very happy about BG3 winning 6 categories, well deserved, and some world premiers were interesting, BUT it was very sad how they cutted the speech of the award winners, some didnt even had the chance to go up there, these people and the consumers are the reason the industry exist! The AD shitfest is getting annoying, I get it they have to make the money but I think the event is poorly organised and is getting really hard to watch.
Thank you for bringing this up. I felt bad that everyone was getting shafted for speeches or even just skipping over them completely by firing out a bunch of awards at once. The show was more of a game showcase rather than acknowledging the people who made them
The Game Awards was rushed? I guess the people behind it wanted to make it go faster for everyone. I'm surprised the host never mentioned anything about mass layoffs in the video game industry this year.
That was actually predicted to happen; even if we disagree with that, shows like that try to be as neutral as possible. But it leaves esp. sour taste, when it is then mirrored in devs' treatment during the show itself (i.e. relegating them to the second fiddle behind biz and marketing powermachine)
Don't expect them to say the problem in an event to celebrate the industry. The Academy Awards didn't allow CGI companies to say they're being mistreated. Remember Life of Pi? It won many awards and yet they forcibly remove the CGI folks who tried to say something on stage about their appalling work condition while making this film. It was so bad that less than a few months after that event the CGI company responsible for the SFX of Life of Pi closed down for business for good...
@@theotherohlourdespadua1131 I was saddened by the news about that. Where do we cross the line in this situation? This makes me nervous to work in video game studios even after I graduated from college for it.
Pretty much what is happening is celebrities and corporations are taking advantage of people watching to see who is going to win the awards to fill it up with garbage in between. It's an insult and honestly viewer manipulation. This is why I just skipped it and just wait for youtubers to give a summary.
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Cyberpunk 2077 winning best ongoing game is a joke. The game is still "ongoing" because it launched so bug riddled that they had to release patch after patch just to get it into a place where it should have been at launch. Even more annoying, the DLC was nominated for a few GAME awards. It's not a game it's downloadable content for a game.
I hope everyone watched a youtuber streaming TGA, and didn't watch it on TGA's channel... they got enough ad revenue.
Why would I buy something that wants to prevent the electronics industry from working normally?
I would prefer not seeing a zoomed video of your crusty ear
The Game Awards were bloated as hell this year, and they didn’t even give the awards the proper amount of emphasis. The celebrities should’ve been cut down a bit, and the ads not related to the show should’ve been trimmed.
My heart goes out to Sven and his team. You'd think he'd be over the moon BG3 got GOTY, but during his acceptance speech, he just sounded sad. Imagine paying tribute to your deceased teammates during an awards speech, only to have the host tell you to hurry up. Disgraceful...
Meh.
@@Voltroc No respect for the dead huh? Yikes, not a good look dude/dudette
So you'd respect someone of SA if they were dead, I mean respect for the dead right
lmfao its an advertisement show, the awards are fake. They were like 5% of the actual show. Nobody making the show cares about the games not being paid for. The "awards" part is stapled on to make people think it's an important show. it is not. There is no actual achievement for getting an advertisement show award lol. Any dev who thinks otherwise is drinking their own Kool-Aid.
@@AlwayzFresh this is reptilian behavior bruh Life isn’t all about logic.. other beings have emotions and the ability to give life meaning
The amount of celebrities that were allowed to waste time while entire categories were sped run like it was an auction was egregious.
What a peculiar word, egregious...
@@parrot1442you really are a parrot
CDPR getting to waste time was even worse
What we get for putting them on a pedestal and worshipping them like gods.
What's so ironic to me is that Geoff Keighley originally started The Game Awards as a reaction to the Spike TV VGAs (Video Game Awards) which became bloated with musical performances, ads, and things that had nothing to do with awarding video games. He originally wanted an awards ceremony which respected the art of video games.
And now he's become what he originally hated. Well done Geoff.
no he did not want to respect the art of video games he just wanted to rub elbows with celebrties
notice this man has never talked about games he enjoys or anything its all about his own narcissistic drive to be in the spotlight
I've never liked Geoff and always felt he was just a prick. Looks like my gut feeling was true after all.
It's all about making money once the awards show becomes popular.
Seems like the usual evolution with everything in the games industry. Look at how many companies that were beloved at one time that are now despised at almost EA levels because they became the worst parts of corporate
He is and always has been a sellout, there’s a reason they call him the Doritos king. He’s most known for that image where he’s sitting dead eyed while loads of halo 4 and Doritos promotions are placed directly behind him
The audience should give them the taste of their own medicine on the next award by yelling "wrap it up" during the ads and celeb section
I think it would be kinda rude to the celebrities that don't decide stuff like that
@@lightdarksoul2097 while you are right, it should be done regardless to make a point.
I can get it. Also and I don't think it's a purposeful thing. I mean gaming isn't their scene so it makes sense but I think plenty of them drink before going on stage. @@theirresponsibleghost7748
@@lightdarksoul2097 fight fire with fire and it burns to ash
@@lightdarksoul2097 they're not supposed to be the main event in the first place. A game award is game award, not celebrity events
Its really concerning just how much power advertisers have nowadays to the point that even Swen's heartfelt speech for deceased members of his team gets hit with the "Please wrap it up" teleprompter
Yeah I don't think that's an advertiser thing. I think that is a greed thing on the part of the organizers of the event and the guests who got payed to show up.
@@TemperansIt is an advertiser thing. They have the power to make the organisation put them as a top priority and not give a shit about actual stuff in the show.
@@mawangshallhang Advertisers have as much power as the people running the event are willing to give. So no, it is not an "advertiser thing" but a "greed thing". If an event planner decides that the advertisers should have top priority is because they are greedy and are more worried about making a profit than running a good event.
I would have purposefully slowed down if that was me
Imagine being a legendary dev finally being allowed to pour your heart out in recognition of your amazing achievement, and then some teleprompter tells you to "wrap it up".
Imagine bitching when you know the show is so long so they have to make sure everyone has time then you cry about it
"Let's go, we don't have all day 👉⌚"
@@Spiky-gs3eg Then they should've cut down on the shitty ads to provide more time to the actual reason why people are there in the first place. Nobody cares about bob whipperdippers new movie coming out.
Then the show is too long. They should have different days for different types of games. E.g. mobile (small screen) on one day, desktop, console and VR (big screen) on another day.
Or a single player / multiplayer split.
I mean we don't have TV and film awards in the same event.
The point stands that it's poor that the industry awards don't give enough time to say anything meaningful. It should be a celebration of achievement and a chance for the best in the industry to speak to their peers and the next generation of game devs.
They should extend the show by 45min - an hour then so the devs can have their moment.
30 seconds is undoubtedly an egregiously short amount of time, I don't care how many awards or announcements they have to get through. It's only a once-a-year event and it exists to celebrate developers.
Sorry but there's a time limit and the show was already super long it's necessary
@@Spiky-gs3eg Literally half the show was ads though.
@khinzaw77 the ads are what literally pay for the event. The people could say nothing and just, take their award and go
@@khinzaw77ads make money, everything that isn’t an ad loses money apparently
@@Spiky-gs3eg then don't watch it
The teleprompter was telling them to wrap it up before they could even start unwrapping in the first place. The timer started as soon as they went on stage, let alone got in position and waited for people to settle down. What a disgrace. The organizers should be utterly ashamed of this display.
What? Game Awards is merely a platform for advertisements and don't really care about giving game developers the credit they deserve? Color me surprised.
feels like it's been how TGA has always been...
Pay cuts, getting laid off, decisions of executives, taking the fall for bad directors, harassment, S-assault, unfair treatment, crunch, no paid time off, bonuses taken away, metric cutting and now the game awards is shitting on them too.
This is disgusting behaviour to treat developers who put a lot of time and effort and struggled while putting up with a lot of crap from all sides this and really hurts their moral by telling them to "please wrap it up" like they are not important while giving others special treatment.
that's capitalism baby, the workers get shafted and the rich ad corporations get to decide what happens and what not, even if people died they get to be 'wrapped up'
@@budderk1305 Way to make it about capitalism. It's just poor showmanship.
Besides, under capitalism, these people could quite literally just make their own. It's not that hard, though it does require taking a risk.
@@xX_Pokeman_XxWe should face it already; It's the fault of money. The best way to make money is to abuse others, that's just how it is. And that's all they care about; making money.
@@xX_Pokeman_Xx of course this is about capitalism. How naive are you?
The main reason why TGA this year were how they were was profit and greed, prioritizing profit and advertizing future products to be sold over the actual premise of the awards show.
Just because you don't like challenging such societal norms or even talking about them, because that's probably "tOo PoLItiCaL" for your taste, does not change the fact, that Capitalism as a system encourages such behaviour.
@@SirGofres No, it really isn't. In a capitalistic society, the best way to make money is to make a product people want, that's how it is. These people don't *care* about money either, otherwise they'd make a product actually worth watching.
What happened was poor showmanship, not capitalism in action.
It felt like a high-school graduation where they say your name you walk up,Get your diploma,get your picture taken and the next person goes up.
Except most of the graduates wouldn't even get to go on stage to accept their diploma, someone would just say their name and not even give them a chance to take pictures from their seats before moving onto someone else who also wouldn't be called up
Exactly gow it should be
@@Akeyins what sad country are you on?
At least in my graduation, the awards announced first when everyone paid attention and not the monotone boring part in the back.
The biggest celebrity in a Game -fking- Awards are the -fking- Game Developers.
@@alecmanst629no that's dumb af
The way Neil, Sven, and the entire Baldur's Gate 3 team -- who were acknowledging their fans and their deceased colleague -- were treated was disgusting and disgraceful. I'm STILL fuming over that.
Youre pathetic if this makes you that mad. Go touch grass
Someone died?
the head animator died a few weeks ago@@kylewood4488-b9r
@@kylewood4488-b9r Unfortunately yes. His name was Jim Southworth, and he was the Cinematic Animation Lead.
@@kylewood4488-b9r Yup, it was Jim who worked in the cinematics department, and he died just last month after getting diagnosed with cancer last year. It's a shame that the team had to rush through their speech like that. I could tell the emotion and the pain in knowing their close colleague wouldn't be able to see this moment, but nope...just had to get rushed. Quite sad seeing how devs were just rushed off like that, hopefully Geoff and whoever's behind this show learn from this.
Totally agree with them being upset. Imagine if the Academy Awards started showcasing upcoming movie trailers & announcements rather than giving time to the talent & the actual awards, that's how TGA felt this year. When movie stars get more time than the game devs, you know the show has failed on what it's supposed to be.
This actually made me appreciate the Oscars. At least they try and be entertaining
I don't even mind the Christopher Judge speech he gave last year. It may have been overly long but it was passionate and honest. Actually seeing him tear up a bit on stage after winning was a powerful moment of true sincerity which is something all too lacking in the current games industry. So often everything feels cooperate in the main stream space and his speech absolutely wasn't it was real and showed the real human behind the character we love.
Agreed
Yeah Geoff saw that as a failure he had to overcorrect instead of a genuine moment that elevated his show and that people were talking positively about.
Now because of the way he ran his show people will take it much less seriously next year. Probably more no-show award winners.
That speech was legendary!
Yes, Christopher Judge's speech last year was a little long but pressuring winners to 30 second speeches is ridiculous.
Gotta love how Judge came out and made a joke about not going for too long but also telling them to say what they have to say and then having to witness that BS happening. I can only imagine how pissed off he must have been.
That speech is what we needed after Al Pacino just seemed lost!😂
Honestly, and 8min acceptance speech is not THAT long. It certainly didn't require a this much of an overreaction.
@@ahettinger525dude, thats 8 whole minutes of ads that werent being played
@ahettinger525 he was just so excited to win. I was a little annoyed when it went on longer but it was his moment.
Imagine if the music awards didn’t let artists speak after winning awards but allowed record label companies to speak more about artist next project rather than the ones we are here to celebrate.
That won’t ever happen because the artist sell the award show, nobody really cares about specific games devs
@@Nightcrawler90210 That only proves that we have a big issue with the system we are living in. Those who puts all the effort and some times get ill due to the pressure at work gets no recognition. At least Larian Studios had a deserved space in the media here in Belgium after they won it.
@@Nightcrawler90210you may not care. I do. I want to hear what they have to say.
Especially such an amazing team as Larian
@@Nightcrawler90210 If so, there's a problem with the gaming community/
@@Jabler- not there isn’t its just that individual game developers don’t have influence if people are gonna buy a game like an artist has when they sell an album or a director or actor with a film. Development studios are giant team with hundreds of so the value of each isn’t that great. Sam houser left rockstar but that didn’t stop people from getting hype for gta6. Game devs don’t have influence only the game brand and maybe the studio
That’s something I noticed while watching, felt like the majority of the awards were just rushed through without second thought, not allowing people to give a speech. This especially hurt when they gave out best independent game to cocoon, an award meant to celebrate the little guys in the industry, and yet we didn’t even get to see the developer, let alone get to hear from them.
Sea of Stars got best indie game.
they meant best debut @@Atrus999
Pizza tower should have gotten that i don't even know what cocoon is
They bundled 4 or 5 awards into one section and went through it in like 30 seconds tops. So they could accommodate more game ads.
@@danekradwanski5278Well thankfully you having heard of a game is not a metric of quality.
This year's TGA was embarrassing to watch. I have mixed feelings about the layoff situation, but not allowing developers even a minute to accept an award at an awards show is absolutely unacceptable. If this isn't addressed and changed before the next TGA, I will no longer be tuning in.
Somehow worse than last year
then don't, do not turn in to the advertisement show, that is the right thing to do, just do not
Why watch it in the first place lmao
I don't understand why people hold it in such high regard. They haven't meant anything in a very long time.
meanwhile kojima is given 10 minutes "bcuz kojima hurr durr smh lol"
Just as it was with E3, the Game Awards ha shifted from its original purpose. In the Game Award's case, it has shifted from celebrating great games of the past year to an advertisement spot for corporations. More advertisements, more celebrities to appease the celebrate worshiping crowd, and less of the celebration of great games. It's been getting worse each year.
At some point, they might remove most trailers away. I'm glad I don't keep on check with these awards. I'm just checking everything after the event on IGN.
I agree, it was so obvious they were rushing speeches and even awards so they could advertise games. Look at all the categories they put together and just got rid of them in like 5 seconds each so they could have 3 hours worth of game ads.
It's Geoff Keighley, Summer Game Fest is just as infested with hollywood garbage and ads as The Game Awards. Look at this year's Golden Joystick Awards to see how it should be done.
@Clam_Chowder1995 I think they meant in regards to the ratio of time provided for devs who won awards to give speeches VS ad time and time dedicated to other non game award related stuff
They rush the literal award winners but Hollywood celebrities nobody cares about get all the time they want to ramble on about god knows what. It's a complete joke, and honestly great to see devs calling it out.
I think Sven was too stunned by how they treated him to remember to announce the Xbox release, personally.
I know I would be if I was treated like that. They deserve a chance to say their piece, especially if they won the damn award.
Especially since it's literally the last thing of the night, it's not like giving GOTY winner a minute or two would hold up anything after it
@@Spike2276 The GOTY final award winner should have like 10 minutes to talk imo. They earned the biggest award, so they should have more time to thank everyone involved imo.
@@HauntakuTV Especially this year when Larian got screwed out of an on-stage best RPG before winning the GOTY
And like i said, it's the last thing, if people don't want to hear a long speech they can just tune out of it at that point, god knows no one is staying for the post show ads
@@Spike2276 It's an awards show, not a tictok video.
the fact to how stacked and fierce the competition was this year for goty they deserved the more time to start with excluding the other dravistes it was insane goty battle this year that's for sure unlike last year xd with sweeps it was very balanced imo
So it is not just TH-cam prioritizing ads above actual creators and content, it's the VGA doing it too and screwing over hard-working developers that made these quality products.
Well, it is because I did a little digging. My guess is that they want to damage control the game industry to make it not that bad that everything’s not that bad not to mention with the whole layoffs that happened this year they want to damage control it.
@@kevingame3198
Probably because a lot of the industry is failing, with releases like Gollum, Kong and now The Day Before, which I suspect Yong Yea is going to make a future video on that travesty.
It's just the game industry as a whole. Revenue over meaningful content.... microtransactions over gameplay. I think it all falls into that issue.
There are shows not filled with ads. Like the Golden Joystick Awards, where developers are pretty much allotted the whole show. The Game Awards are just terrible, it's just a giant ad fest with hollywood celebs.
Well to be fair the game awards are just one giant ad. Same with E3 and summer games fast this whole category of entertainment is just advertising.
CDPR's biggest Cyberpunk sin was not the sorry state of the initial launch, it's that they forever cursed the industry. They pulled off a lightning-in-a-bottle thing with Keanu Reeves, and now, every year, we have to be subjected to a new celebrity bumbling around trying to recapture the iconic "you're breathtaking" moment and failing miserably. That's why I loved Timothee Chalamet during the TGA this year. Went up, no stupid bits, gave a straight up announcement, got the hell out in record time. That was class. Anthony Mackie and Simu Liu take some mf-ing notes, you need them.
It's basically just E3 at this point
If they pull shit like this next year, everybody is obligated to act as the teleprompter for things they don't care to see outside of who won which award and shout in unison *WRAP IT UP!* And then, _keep on doing it_ until they get the message we're not there to watch ads and hear jokes, but see devs who pour their heart and soul into a work. If the organizers think they're not worth the time, we should provide _direct_ input declaring what we think isn't worth our time, too.
We can’t even provide “direct input” for our country lol (representative democracy) each day we stray further from god
the only "direct input" they care about is the people who give them the money: sponsors and advertisers.
We aren't in the venue at which it is being held, so how would that even work?
We need more celebrities - that will fix everything.
We’re headed back to the mistakes of the spike game awards
Spike Game Awards were what year again ?
TGAwent from "F the oscar to look at all the actors we have"
@@keith3278 2013
I wouldn't have minded the celebrities if they had at least been allowed to do something cool, like have them play demos or something
@@rosesweetcharlotte honestly - I never thought of that - that would be pretty damn amazing and a good balance to those who say celebs are needed for the mainstream
That’s a great idea eh- tweet that to ol Geoff
Geoff has been hearing the same kind of "feedback" since 2014. The awards are a footnote to the advertisements and it's always going to be that way
Which is fine but dear God, do more than just show the commercials. Show demos or interview someone or something
4 ads of fortnite.. smfh
@@ellibre5831yeah im glad they are shining a light on small indie games like fortnite 😂
Capitalism baby!
It will than go the way of e3
Its disgusting how Larian are treated like such a nuisance in the games industry. They genuinely did something amazing and slayed giants in terms of AAA companies by making a better game than any of them could for the last few years, but it feels like they just get treated by the industry as annoying obstacles to their money wells (the consumers). The entitlement to our cash and the disrespect for legitimately passionate developers is egregious and unacceptable. This is why the games industry needs an overhaul/reboot.
We need a Game Awards made by the community, for the community.
I love this idea!!!! ❤
@@friedchicken4735Elon can fund
@@friedchicken4735and EA and fund
Let's get some devs to sneak into the Oscars and give ten minute speeches about their games.
If that happened, that would make the Oscars watchable. Especially with the less narcissistic developers.
@@TheSweetTeaGuyout of curiosity, who are the narcissistic developers you are thinking of?
@@sozaj I think they mean that the Devs in general are less narcissistic than the celebs were. I could be wrong, though.
You do realize the actors are paid to be their for marketing reasons?
And make them say "fuck the Game Awards!"
I wasn't expecting the Game Awards to mirror the current situation in the videogame industry: the prioritization of generation of all possible revenue at the cost of the denigration of the actual ground workforce. I'm not exactly the target audience for the show but I totally felt it was really shameful for developers, to the point I wouldn't want to be invited ever again if I worked in the industry. I'd rather have the recognition in written and be done with it.
Tottally agree with you.
Its physically impossible for Hollywood celebrities to avoid making any event about them.
Y’all keep buying movie games so don’t complain when Hollywood comes to you😂
I didn't mind the celebrities, I just wish they had been given more to do. Even they all looked confused as to why they were there
If Keanu Reeve was there, he'll invite the developers up.
@@Nightcrawler90210true i bought 7 copies of golum
I do think the game award show also need more making-off footage and interviews of the games that are nominated. To show viewers why certain games are so special and how much hard work went in making them.
Sometimes people can forget there are human beings who created this game, especially the ones who works with their passion… if actors can be celebrated why not devs and voice actors? I am so pissed…
@@rosefamilia3169 I don't think we should be celebrating Neil Cuckman or Booby Kotick though...
The most infuriating part about this years Game Awards is that there was no mention of the thousands of game devs who got laid off this year alone. If you want to celebrate game devs you need to stand up for them first.
Boo hoo people get fired welcome to the real world. Also this the same award show that ignored the Activision situation, and the host his opening speech about oNliNe HaRrEsSmEnT😂
@@Nightcrawler90210 Nice to know you're a corporate bootlicker. It makes no sense for this year to be so successful in gaming and yet have thousands of game devs lose their jobs.
@@223Drone tf do want them to do? Mourn them like they died? 😂 gaming jobs have NEVER been easy to consistently secure and a lot of developers are very easily replaceable, it’s not a high valued position, most of them can find another job else where it’s not that hard😂
@@Nightcrawler90210 Either you're a kid who never experienced the real world (based on your emojis), or you're someone who never experienced the soul-crushing period of job search that 99% of working adults have to go through to look for jobs that compensate fairly for your needs, in a corporate environment where job security for programmers/engineers is at its worst. Either way, you sound too immature to contribute to this discussion.
@@StarMiners0416 again booo fukin hoo people get fired, you are not special because you are game developer. Everyone has gotten fired from a job, it’s not worth bringing up at an award show
The fact that we had such amazing games on display and being honored was a joy to behold but I hated the time constraints on the speeches this time. I understand why but not even allowing BG3's team to pay respects to their fallen member (who passed away during the development) with extra time to honor his time and contribution, felt like a knife to the heart. Especially when they had a giant prompter giving them 30 seconds for their entire speech and was asking them to "wrap it up".
This is not a new thing. This happens in all award shows.
@@minddragon8427 true, it is a sickening trend.
Seriously! There were whole games this year that could have swept in previous years with a lot of lower quality games that only won one or two awards. BG3 could easily have taken all their awards home if the competition hadn’t been so good this year. There was no excuse for this besides money. Wrap it up, ads.
Makes me wonder why no one has just put time limit on the spot by going up to the mic, saying "thanks for the award" and keep it moving lol. Also I'm talking about the game awards specifically, dunno if that was done with other award shows.
@Raytheus no it isn't. No one wants to hear a random dev jerk himself off for 10 mins. Accept your shitty award and give a quick 1-2 min speech, preferably 30 seconds
The gaming industry is one of the most clear examples of corproate corruption and ineptitute. We're seeing big conpanies make mistake, make money yet punish the actual workers. These awards are such a condensed manifestation of this. Big suit guys wanting celebs to do their thing, which we don't want, whilst silencing devs....
So embarrassing.
I remember many years ago articles about game companies using prostitutes to favor good reviews from game site publications. It’s been that way for a long time.
@@starscream6629 prostitutes? Moat of the guys would accept a monster energy drink for a fake review 😅
The Game Awards has always been like this. They’ve always given the sloppiest blowjobs to AAA games that make highly unoriginal, uninspired, copy-pasted formulas of games while giving token mentions to indie games that _are_ original, inspired and unique games.
Not to mention normalizing crunch culture, lootboxes, workplace harassment...
In what universe did they ever think 30 seconds was going to be a enough time? 90 seconds should have been the default.
Regular celebrities shouldn't even be a factor in at the Game Awards and they're probably just there because they're getting desperate for attention.
they're there because they get paid, and they get paid because this is what the organizers think will bring views.
I'm honestly surprised it took this long for people to get angry. The game awards have never been an awards show, just a series of adverts masquerading as one
I find it disappointing that they feature less and less about the game studios. This is one of the few times where they can be in the spotlight and it’s telling how much time is given to celebrity actors and promoters. The game creators are taking the time to be there and should they win, they deserve to speak on that gratitude. Announcements are cool, but there are so many other venues for that.
The winners speeches being cut short especially Sven's speech about his devs that passed away telling them to "Please Wrap it up" was just disgusting. While giving off Hollywood celebrities like discount Captain Clarence free reign to be obnoxious and promote his stupid show,at least Timothee Chalamet and Matthew McConaughey were behaving like professional actors. Geoff kissing Kojima's a::: again, giving 10 minutes talking about literally nothing. And the Orchestra performance was short,not playing FIND THE FLAME,and not giving them a standing ovation was just disgusting.
Sorry it's not disgusting they don't have time to do a hour long talk about the devs that passed away I get it's very sad but the show was too long if it was 2 days then it'd have been better for that speech
I thought I was the only one that geff ass kicking kjomia was fucking annoying as well. Every fucking year
@@Spiky-gs3egThey gave Kojima over 10 minutes talking about nothing. With that length of time, 20 or more people can say their 30 second speeches. Think about it...
@@Spiky-gs3egit is disgusting. Yes and your long speech is annoying, but for example, Christopher judge introducing Neil newborn was longer then Neil's speech. Neil's was 50 seconds before they told him to wrap it up
Disgusting is such a overused adjective. There are better ways to describe the crappy situation because disgusting doesn't really fit here. Not everything you disagree with has to be disgusting.
One of the best years of gaming and TGA managed to turn into a Hollywood celeb circlejerk
No, this was just several hours of ads. A Hollywood circlejerk would have actually been interesting
@@rosesweetcharlotte So just watch the Oscars...
"One of the best years of gaming." This was nothing compared to any given year between 1993 and 2008.
agreed, but since then gaming has gone down the hill because publishers and investors have almost complete control, developers no longer have any say in the games they make. but this year was one of the best in recent gaming history. which is saying something since at least this year we got something good out of it. with BG3 winning game of the year i hope it shows what gamers actually want. and that gamers are the important part of this industry, not the corporate shit holes who dont give a rats ass if a game fails.@@12ealDealOfficial
Geoff: “We are out of E3, they just think about money and celebrities”
Also Geoff: “No time for dev speeches, only Kojima, celebrities and Fortnite ads on our show”
Game Awards: Has some mo-cap guy say "F*** The Oscars!" on stage.
Also Game Awards: Gets Oscar award winning talent like Al Pacino and Chris Nolan to be at the show.
He probably thought that the more time he gives for dev speeches, the more chances there is for Bill Clinton to show up
too much kojima particles being used...
sooner or later, they're gonna be an irradiated mess.
@@tomatochip7923 From what I understand, it was very impossible for that to happen. If you came from the audience, you could only be two people. So unless he came with someone from backstage, he would never get the chance.
@@lordkardok666 The higher security is definitely much welcome of course, for the safety of everyone there. But now looking at the way they are handling the awards, kinda makes you wish that the harmless pranks could continue lol.
I really felt sad for Eiji Aonuma, he really wanted to give his speech and sounded so joyful but at the end got cut off bc of the stupid 30 seconds timer. Life isn't fair
As much as I watch TGA for the announcements rather than the scam that the awards are, it is sad to see this being done to the developers.
I love hideo kojima but they gave him like 30 mins explaining almost nothing about his new game. Meanwhile the people who won like 30 seconds to make a speech. It was disrespectful
Now you know Geoff has to keep his sugar daddy happy 🤣
@@NeloBladeOfRanni😂 sugar daddy
He got 6 mins on stage
The only dev Geoff respects is the one that wants to be a movie director. What there is to be surprised?
If the viewership and interest in the game awards is declining, it’s because of the content. They’re not giving the fans watching what they want to see. They want to hear from the people that developed their favorite games.
Oh trust me, most people are only there for the trailers if you look at what's going on in the chat during the stream.
i’m 99 percent sure most gamers watching the awards only care about the trailers. That’s the main appeal of them. Same way most people who watch movies/tv shows don’t care about how they were made or anything of the sort.
No one cares about hearing what the devs have to say. Like it or not it's the truth
@@alecmanst629it is the sad truth. I can see people would complain "where are the games!? L show!" when Geoff does turn GA into a proper award show.
why are celebrities even there???, its not really for them and i have a feeling most gamers would want to hear about announcements or awards. this isnt the fucking golden globes.
The problem is that the audience, and in particular the online audience is responsible for how much time is spent on which segment. Most people who watch the game awards skip forward to the game announcements and don't pay attention to the award segments. This is not the fault of the showrunners. They just take the statistics from the last show and propagate where they spend the money and time in the next show. But to make it better, the game award show should only allow the winners and nominees to show their trailers, and all the other trailers should be an additional show.
I'm the opposite, I skip TO the game awards :)
They had 4 goddamn Fortnite ads…FOUR. There was genuinely so much overkill in the ads and all that that when devs even tried to come up, they found it necessary to allow 4 ads for the same game instead of letting developers talk about and thank those involved in their games
It was far more important to see Geoff Keely talk to Gonzo in a skit than it was to hear the acceptance of the game of the year or that Masayoshi Soken won best musical score or, you know, hear any examples of that music.
As far as Anthony Mackie, Alanah Pierce said there was actually a lot of heckling going on that the stream viewers couldn't hear. Even so, he used up valuable time for more muppet cameos.
And yet, Gonzo was funnier than Christopher Judge, Anthony macky, Mathew Mcconnague and that Shang shing actor put together
The fact that Masayoshi Soken is currently battling cancer as we speak, makes it even more infuriating.
For me the biggest show of disrespect was to Neil Newbon. You can tell he wanted to say more but was polite about it as they forced him to keep his speech short and sweet.
actually the worst show in the history of tga
looked like every dev who gave a speech was afraid security's gonna escort them out of the building if they went on for too long
Sam Lake is a gaming industry icon, why are they cutting him off 30 seconds after he went up stage
this is the game AWARDS ffs
(also Neil Druckmann going ok clock's ticking was really funny)
The thing that was wild about the "speedrun" portion of the awards was that I watched him list like six or seven awards in a row, and the list popped up next to his head...and for the first five awards the first nominee listed at the top of the screen won. Like they forgot to randomize it. Then it changed up for the last two. It just screamed that they didn't care about the awards.
Actually, the game awards have always done this, it's nothing new. Even when they were the VGAs on Spike, they still had the same concept, have 90 percent be trailers, celebrities, and advertisements, while zooming through the awards as a compilations. This is why awards from other major gaming media, such as IGN (don't know if they still have yearly awards), are considered much more accurate by gamers
I was glad that Sea of Stars won Best Indie, it was a really fun game, but its a shame no one from the team even got a chance to be seen. The only recognition they got was the award being read off a list rapid fire style in the middle of other awards.
Yeah given how big the indie scene has gotten in recent years it's kind of baffling.
I think it's disrespectful, asinine and dumb to give the developers 30 seconds they should have more time. Also, some games were just rattled out like best RPG where was the physical game award for the developers to come on and get? I hate that..
Get rid of the Muppets no one cares about that s*** 😥
I don't mind the muppet stuff, but they should prioritize the award acceptance speeches over everything else.
It's def biased since they let kojima talk for awhile. Was actually waiting for them to rush him like everyone else but oh well.
Also def gotta get rid of those muppets. Idr when they became a thing but honestly a waste of time
What was the reason with the muppets?
3 minutes would be a perfect amount of time imo.
Devs should've been given at least 3 minutes each to deliver a thank you speech
Thats a fair timeframe, I don’t see why they couldn’t make that happen.
Absolutely not. The would destroy pacing, bore viewers, and back when they weren’t timed all the internet did was complain and ask for more trailers. Devs need 90 seconds max. The show is much closer to a perfect balance here, just need 90 seconds and not 30
@@lionzcrown1702 The only reason people wanted more trailers is because the show isn't a good "Awards show". The show should be about the awards and developers, not about world premiers, celebrity showings, advertisements and the such.
I agree 8 minutes or so last year was bad for Christopher Judge, but 3 minutes is plenty, but encourage 90 seconds. 90 seconds base, 3 minutes max. Rushing the developers, many of whom are probably very emotional from winning an award, just looks bad also. It's essentially "Here's your award, say thanks, now get the fuck off my stage you stain".
@@lionzcrown1702 and that is why its so wrong in the first place.
@@lionzcrown1702 This is an AWARDS SHOW
This goes to show yet again that the Game Awards are just an advertisement billboard that doesn't really care about video games or developers and artists. The whole point of an award ceremony is to reward the efforts and creativity of the people who contribute to the art form. The fact that less than 10% of the time of the ceremony is dedicated to them tells you all you need to know.
Thank you for helping shed light on this. I was wondering what the heck was going on with the Game of the Year award speech being so short/rushed feeling.
Development teams should be the ones getting awards for sure. There are still places for voice actors and such, but the people who are responsible for delivering the final product deserve more recognition
Anthony Mackie had way more time feeling cool than any other dev accepting their award.
The guy needs an attitude adjustment, that's for sure
He tried so hard to be funny .. it was painful to watch
Man he was SO pissed when TLOU won instead of twisted metal. You could see it in his face.
Mackie’s time on stage was seriously painful to watch. It felt like he was desperately trying to get a “you’re breathtaking” moment and wouldn’t stop rambling until he got it
He was drunk, what did you expect
I actually have hope that Geoff Keighley take this criticism to heart and improve the game awards and not just make it winter E3.
The man courting the movie industry doesn't give a shit to the videogame's one.
He won't. The guy makes way too much money from these game ads. Look at his Summer Game Fest, it's just as bad as The Game Awards.
He should just cut out the awards all together and just rebrand the Game Awards to Winter Games Fest.
@@sophieedel6324 Remind me why he's so beloved, despite doing shitty business practices like so many crappy corporations?
He only cares about ads and Hollywood stars on his pathetic excuse of an awards show
Honestly, there needs to be a dress rehearsal for the awards at this point. Give an hour and a half to the awards and speeches, 30 minutes for ads, an hour for world reveals, and that would leave 30 mins for the orchestral performances. Boom done
Imagine not being able to make a big announcement like BG3 being available on xbox now. I don’t see how this is hard to see coming, big corporations are ruining everything this is why AAA companies are starting to fail whilst more passionate dev teams are coming up.
There's a reason I've called it The Game Advertisements for a few years now. It's really amazing though that this year, the Controversy Moment wasn't some guy going off-script, or someone sneaking up on stage, it was the awards being entirely sidelined.
The fact that they let movie actors have more time than game devs should tell you who they really care about.
Agreed. It's The GAME Awards, not The Ads / Winners Awards. If the winners only has 30 seconds to speak then why bother with the live awards? Might just announced the winners from internet and called it a day.
The game reveals should be it's own separate show.
The award winners..live performances and speeches should be a different show.
Problem solved.
I completely understand they need sponsors and showcases/commercials to be able to put the event on. I also completely understand that they can't let people ramble, because there is a schedule. But for fucks sake how hard is it to put out an email to the nominees beforehand saying "hey, speeches are being limited to two/three minutes, just fyi, we're gonna be strict about it." And if someone does start rambling then you can break out the teleprompter. It's called the GAME AWARDS, let's at least make the focus be on the games being awarded and let the devs/winners enjoy their moment. I think it's safe to say their fans want to see them savor it and hear what they have to say!
No offense to the celebs and entertainment. They're very talented. But I literally don't care about them at all and they add nothing to the show imo. I'm here to see the artists, developers, actors, writers, etc who worked hard be awarded for it. Not to see them being swept off the stage after 30 seconds because we gotta fit one more fucking ad spot in.
The way Neil Newbon basically had to yell over the music to try and acknowledge the BG3 players who've said they feel seen by the game and to tell them they're not alone just breaks my heart. He literally asked for one moment to say something important when the music started playing and they didn't cut it off. The way The Game "Awards" treated literally everyone who won an award is disgusting, especially when you have something like the Golden Joystick awards to compare it to
And apparently, people who were in person didn't even hear the end of his speech. There's a clip floating around on Twitter from someone who was in the audience and they fully cut the mic, leaving the "You are not alone in this" part of his speech unheard by audience members. You can see Neil leaning towards the mic and saying something, but you cannot hear even a little bit of what he says. And Geoff said "no one was cut off" smh
@@astromechas wait, for real??? That's so disgusting. The wrap it up sign and music were bad enough already even though Neil started the speech saying he didn't have a lot of time. Obviously he wasn't going to stand there for ten minutes after that disclaimer. I can't imagine how disheartening that must feel for him to have his accomplishments brushed aside like they don't matter in favor of a freaking fortnite ad
@@Akeyins Yeah, it's absolutely crazy. It's wild to me that creators got their speeches cut short and certain categories were awarded rapid-fire all so that we could get a bunch of nothing-burger cinematic trailers for games that aren't even tangible concepts yet.
@@astromechas Ugh, right? Imo, if there isn't gameplay in the trailer or the release window is completely unknown, it has no business being there. If the game awards are truly so stretched for time that they can't allow people to have more than 30 seconds to talk before telling them to wrap it up, then they need to get rid of some of the bloat ads. Otherwise they may as well just rebrand to the new E3 instead of masquerading as an awards ceremony where almost 2/3 of the winners were read off by Geoff like they were items on a grocery store list
I knew it was gonna be bad after that one, especially given what Astarion's story is about and that Neil has talked about it in other speeches and interviews. Just really insulting and in extremely poor taste.
How have we gotten to a point where an awards show prioritises monetisation over acceptance speeches? The devs, voice actors and musicians may as well not bother accepting the awards in person or showing up full stop if they’re not gonna be given time to say their speeches.
They could do the speech and have ads play in the bottom corner of the screen during the livestream tbh
The biggest kick in the gut to me is that all these announcements and trailers shown I’ve seen today through ads. The thing that’s gonna be seen way more often and actually marketed still got more time at the award show over the already made games and developers who made them . Cringe Keely
I agree but at the same time that event and to host such large platform would cost extravagant.
@@emanuelperono1562I get that, but they could have at least had some interesting demos for the games or something.
Game Awards not caring about devs work and prioritizes more about money, ads and forced celebrities cameos at the devs expense? I'm shocked! Truly shocked!
Right? We all already know this year's Game Awards was going to be whack because they're too scared to recognize Hogwarts Legacy.
Honestly it feels like a representation of what Blizzard has become and we all know how their reputation has been recently lol. Too focused on profit and using stupid celebrity marketing instead of focusing on the actual games. (Also, that's not a dig at the devs but rather the people who decide what they want to prioritize)
@@ServantBerserkerZeroHogwarts would've been cooler in the 360 era
@@ServantBerserkerZero Hogwarts Legacy sucked. Let's be real here.
@@ServantBerserkerZeroEven without the controversy, the game was kinda meh. idk if that's just overall quality game, or me simply not being Harry Potter fan in general.
The fact that there are so many award compilations where they just run through a bunch of awards without any fanfare or acceptance shows where their priorities are. They don't care about the awards or the devs.
As someone that was chosen to be an official co-streamer, I was upset too. I had no time to talk about any of the games or awards with my chat, and a 3.5 hour show is way too long without an intermission. Even movies in the theatre aren't that long. My chat kept saying that they wanted to hear more of the devs, and was jeering almost everyone else. We also wanted to make a guessing game for who would win, and the awards were announced so quickly that we couldn't. I would rather have a much longer time slot with a decently paced show and a break in the middle. They should have respect for the devs and the co-streamers both (with devs as the priority, of course).
Also, the writer of the skit between the host and Gonzo should write the entire show. That was the only talking part that I enjoyed, and the only skit with jokes that were actually funny. Or just have the entire Muppet cast be the hosts for the whole thing.
It doesn’t need to be a 3 hour + ordeal- I love all the stuff but give the devs and actors and musicians more time.
If everyone got what they wanted it would easily be 5-6 hours. The balance will NEVER be achieved. It’s just going to go back and forth each year between what twitter decides to bitch about this time.
If you let everyone speak as long as they want, it would be 3 to 4 hours. And let's be real, home viewers would tune out if that happened fr
You can't have both my man... the show needed to be 1 hour.
4.5 hours is insane!
@@gumgumleobazookawhat everyone wants is less ads and more time for the awards. Its literally that simple.
@@keithmichael112There’s a difference between letting someone speak forever and giving people more than just 30 seconds. Even a minute or minute and a half would be better without impacting the run time much
Unbelievable. The people who put their hearts and souls into making the games are given less time on stage that glorified adds is just... unacceptable. I would not be surprised if folks in the crowd started chanting 'wrap it up' during the add spots purely out of spite next time. The devs deserve so much more time and love.
It's all money, take it to your friends and embrace the award. All of this, oscars, grammy, all of these awards are for promotion and whatnot. Peeps take these too personal.
Fuck em I don't care
@@Dabrownman1812it shouldn't be. It was the Game Awards ffs. That's a very capitalistic thing. Greed can be found everywhere but nowhere as much as in the USA
If anybody wants to watch a more real awards show, go watch the GDC Awards. Those actually feel like they're trying to recognize talent
What's that? Are they on youtube?
@@TerrariaLuvrLate as Hell but I'm pretty sure Darkwater's talking about Games Done Quick. Yearly challenge for Indie devs, studios and the like to make rapid-fire games centered around a theme, lots of charity events happen at the same time too. A number of past contestants and winners such as Baba is You are sometimes even further developed/given extra content beyond the challenge too if they're received well and the devs are passionate enough. There are also speedrun competitions and such too, it's a fun event. And yes they'll livestream it on here and on Twitch, I think both handles are just "gdc"
@@SergeantStark OH I LOVE GDQ!!!
@@TerrariaLuvr my bad I was over here talking about Games Done Quick LOL
GDC is the Game Developers' Choice Awards, used to be called the Spotlight Awards in the late 90s. And before _that_ event there's the Independent Games Festival
Actually smooth brained getting the events mixed up on my end lmao
(Edit: they do still stream the events on both here + Twitch and post about it p much everywhere, all you need to look for is GDC Awards. It's held around March/April for the most part and like GDQ is mostly Indie content but still worth checking out)
@@SergeantStark The GDC Awards are the Game Developers' Conference Awards. They've been around much longer than TGA has.
I get they don't want to have another judge situation taking over 8 minutes, but c'mon. Allow them to atleast thanx the team and the fans. We already could see that they would be going in this direction when they start rushing through several categories in rapid succession without any award handout.
But I also kinda put blame on us the audience. So many keep yelling "Boring, don't care about awards we want more trailers!" Well, here is the result.
I also don't really get all the movie star power. We have our own super stars so why are we reliant of the stars of a whole different industry.
The only question that needs to be asked is how did we get here. If you have the answer to that. Please share. I'll start money and greed
Just want to say that it felt very weird that Kojima was hyping up OD as this "new" experience because it "merges live-action and video games" for 10 minutes straight when Alan Wake 2 was literally at the same show and up for game of the year.
It’s so disgusting how these game developers are being disrespected. These people have busted their asses to make their games. Some of them have passed away and when they finally get a chance to speak, they’re told to just “wrap it up”. It’s so deplorable. If these game developers don’t get treated with respect, then we shouldn’t even have the game awards at all.
I literally couldn't give a fuck
everyone getting rushed off the stage during their emotional victory speeches was a big oof moment every time it happened. TGA really should have extended the show to allow for more speech time.
The show was too long so I am glad they rushed if it was 2 days it'd be better
@@Spiky-gs3eg True, 2 days would help give time for both.
Extended the show!? You're insane. It was almost 5 hours!
@0thers1d3 it was 3 and a half hours. I wouldn't mind an extra 30-45 minutes so more time could be spent on awards
I think Geoff is aware of it but at this point is just happy he still has this job every year. The thing about TGA it's purpose is to celebrate Video Games as a medium that everyone can appreciate, but year after year I see EVIL behind the scenes and I think it just has to do with all the corruption behind the scenes with Hollywood, social media and the Elites likely trying to control what we consume.
Developers do need more than 30 seconds. We owe them that for all their hard work and dedication to making good games. I can imagine making video games is no easy task.
I work on the corpo side of AV and handle some pretty big corporate conferences and keeping those people on time leads us to treading on some big ice not trying to get people to stick to time and always having a chain of command to go through to decide how aggressively we try to push that though. “Wrap it up and that flashing” is definitely not the way you want to get people off a stage.
The Game Awards does one thing very well….and that’s pissing people off
The whole concept of a game award show is a flawed idea in the first place.
It's almost like people complain all the time over nothing.
An event put together exclusively by socially awkward people? How is this possible 😂
@@sgtn00dle those people tend to be self-conscious which clearly isn't the case here.
@@jackied962 What you see as complaints I see as criticism.
The first couple of years of the Game Awards seemed to understand the assignment, have an avenue where hard work of developers and game studios could be appreciated and recognized. As time went on they horribly have taken the wrong lesson. Game announcements are fine and I get ads are a necessary evil, but I'm there to learn the developers journey and what this award means to them. The developers stopped being the focal point of this show in the past 4 or so years. I don't know how Geoff claims to be a lover of games when he won't even stand up for the developers at his own show. Truly disappointing. At this point there's no great reason to watch. I don't need to be part of the utter disrespect of folks who are already facing constant struggles of an abusive industry. I was hoping they could feel celebrated and clearly the developers have spoken out and have stated the opposite.
The problem is the same thing that is happening in the gaming industry right now, gamers aren’t running things, investors, CEO’s, and advertisers have the keys to running things. If the game awards didn’t have votes then we all wouldn’t pay it any mind because it’d just be advertisements and announcements, which we’d have/had E3 for (and E3 had so much more beyond the announcements and advertisements for up and coming games.)
This is why Roblox isn't doing so well - investors/shareholders are ruining stuff
This country's need to continuously suck off advertisers and let them rule everything, including politics, is gross and has been getting worse every damn year. I'm just so fucking tired at this point. Really, really tired.
James Stephanie Sterling said it well. "The Game Ads", it is not awards. It's only Ads.
The "priority" was clearly for Geoff to make as much money as their possibly is. That was the point for him, everything he complained about with E3 was just a lie. What he really wanted was more money. And this awards show exemplifies his greed.
The Game Awards are not about developers and how hard they work. The Game Awards are about Jeff Keighley and his ability to show off new games exclusively saved for the show. He doesn't give a shit about the devs.
What makes it so egregious is how much time the announcers wasted on stupid jokes and rambled, the amount of time spent on advertisements and sponsors, but god forbid someone pays tribute to someone who died during development.
It really is a shame because the show itself was great, great reveals, all the awards felt deserved, but because if the egregious time limit in acceptance speeches, it didn't feel like a celebration of the amazing year it's been😕 Hoping they rectify this next year
Was it, though? I mean I never watched it because of how bitter I was towards them, especially after the 2020 show... but...
You know, what if the devs didnt show up to the game awards next year? What if instead of being brushed off in front of thousands of people, the devs went home. What if next year the devs spend time with their families. Fuck your game awards, vapid shallow silcone trophies draped with adverts and hollow platitudes. Devs spend that time with your family next year, because they love you and you matter to them. Theres nothing you can create that will be worth the praise of soulless corps and their meaningless posturing they call gratitude. Your vision, artistry hard work, and worth is too great a gift. Give it to your loved ones instead.
Yes I agree, I'm very happy about BG3 winning 6 categories, well deserved, and some world premiers were interesting, BUT it was very sad how they cutted the speech of the award winners, some didnt even had the chance to go up there, these people and the consumers are the reason the industry exist! The AD shitfest is getting annoying, I get it they have to make the money but I think the event is poorly organised and is getting really hard to watch.
Thank you for bringing this up. I felt bad that everyone was getting shafted for speeches or even just skipping over them completely by firing out a bunch of awards at once. The show was more of a game showcase rather than acknowledging the people who made them
The Game Awards was rushed? I guess the people behind it wanted to make it go faster for everyone. I'm surprised the host never mentioned anything about mass layoffs in the video game industry this year.
Mass layoffs happen like every 2 or 3 years in this industry.
@@nandoman4769gotta keep those stock prices up somehow
That was actually predicted to happen; even if we disagree with that, shows like that try to be as neutral as possible. But it leaves esp. sour taste, when it is then mirrored in devs' treatment during the show itself (i.e. relegating them to the second fiddle behind biz and marketing powermachine)
Don't expect them to say the problem in an event to celebrate the industry. The Academy Awards didn't allow CGI companies to say they're being mistreated. Remember Life of Pi? It won many awards and yet they forcibly remove the CGI folks who tried to say something on stage about their appalling work condition while making this film. It was so bad that less than a few months after that event the CGI company responsible for the SFX of Life of Pi closed down for business for good...
@@theotherohlourdespadua1131 I was saddened by the news about that. Where do we cross the line in this situation? This makes me nervous to work in video game studios even after I graduated from college for it.
Pretty much what is happening is celebrities and corporations are taking advantage of people watching to see who is going to win the awards to fill it up with garbage in between. It's an insult and honestly viewer manipulation. This is why I just skipped it and just wait for youtubers to give a summary.