RED KOMODO vs Z CAM E2-S6G Part 1
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ก.ย. 2024
- The RED KOMODO and Z CAM E2-S6G are both 6K cameras with super 35 sensors. They are also global shutter, which is a rather unique technology that eliminates the jello look most cameras have. This multi-part comparison will dig into the details of these very capable cameras and show side-by-side footage.
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"Buying a camera is a very personal decision" - Very true. Especially for those of us who in the position to only afford one camera every few years. Yes, it's very personal.
Zcam has done everything RED said they would do all those years ago, Make a True Digital Cinema camera at a great price.
Perhaps, but here they are charging the exact same money as Red.
@@angryrabbitproductions1690 $2,495 for the S6 - how much is the Komodo again??
@@gabrielzachary5804 S6G is $6K - Komodo is $6K.
@@DanielScottFilms my s35 s6 is amazing for the price, but 6k ?? hmm....
@@DanielScottFilms where do you see the s6 cost 6000$??!
IMO the only real advantage of the ZCam (so far) is the affordability of accessories. Otherwise the Komodo has the S6G beat, equaled, or leveled on subtle differences that boil down to a matter of taste. Seems to me the that ZCam is counting on customer loyalty for the long-term proposal of value of eventually matching/beating the Red ecosystem through similar or better quality of codecs, software, support, that or reducing the price will become extremely important.
Otherwise, great shots Mark, great video.
It is fun free-viewing the side by side shots in 3D :)
1:08 is why KOMODO wins IMO. Those highlights.
To all: the overexposed zcam is a matter of practice. You don't have to blow out highlights. Check your waveform. I have the e2m4 , the m43 version. 1600 usd. Great slo mo and low light even at iso 51200. And great for wildlife if you use ff lenses.
The opening footage is perfecto global shutter. A great comp review, Mark!
Thank you
Hi, Thanks for test!
At 1:08 the E2-E6G the sun area is burned while with the Komoso the shot is fine. Is it an exposure mistake?
I’m going to talk about this scene in the next video.
Thanks for the video! Could you please test how the video output performs? For example with a vaxis atom or hollyland 300 or any other WiFi wireless system combined with a LUT?
the comparison at 1:09-- they're so similar except the obvious blowing out of the z cam. would love to know more about the specifics of this shot w grading v recording codec, or camera settings, what's causing the stark difference?
I don’t think either cam was able to capture the sunset without some clipping. It’s just too bright relative to the foreground. The difference between them is likely due to how the post processing affects the highlight rolloff. I’ll have to experiment with it. I may also share some footage so others can play around with it.
@@FlannelNinjaTech just circling back (coupling with my other comment,) using solely z cam, I did a test with a bright led in frame, as well as a deep shadow on the other half-- recorded pro res raw, and then z raw-- in post brought both images up and down in exposure testing the range-- the pro res raw suffers from a weird digital roll off and banding in the highlight, and the detail is definitely distorted and blow out looking-- where as the z raw beautifully holds image quality, full detail, not artifacting. I feel like the look on the 1:09 footage, if shot z raw would look comparative to the Komodo. crazy how much discrepancy there is and such little information about the proper way to get an image exposure. wish I could show you a screenshot. gonna try to duplicate my test and put a video together properly for it. anyway looking forward to your videos coming!
Thanks for making this video
Very much needed .,
Edit: I was confused by the showing of specs at 3:54 where the video shows the regular e2-s6. Also when trying to find other information about the camera, i found nothing on z-cams site or other. The only time the camera is mentioned officially is in the «updates» page, with software 0.98 (or something like that) being the latest.
I guess the camera is not officially released by z-cam yet? And therefore there is no more information to find about it?
Umm? The e2s6 is NOT the same price as the Komodo? It even shows in the video that it costs $2495
(Loved the video btw, now subscribed🤙🏻)
Isn't this the E2 S6G?
Right. The E2-S6 is $2500. The E2-S6G is $5995. Different camera, different sensor.
Why doesen’t zcam have any info on the «e2s6G»? And why would you show the regular s6 in the video?
@@sondrevestheim Global shutter obviously
I noticed that ProRes RAW was used for S6G. Is there no internal ZRAW?
Now I get why everyone is talking about the Komodo. That's the only Red below $10k. LOL. And the footages look like the magenta camera vs. the green camera.
who cares if there is a color shift as long as its uniform/consistent... grade your footage lol
@@amnesia5490 Sure. You grade your footage, LOL. I am sticking with sipping wine.
Awesome comparison man!
Thanks! I’ve been watching your comparison videos with the KOMODO. Good stuff
@@FlannelNinjaTech I’ll be doing some more for sure! They come off so controversial lol. Have you ran the zraw or pro res raw on the S6G?
Yeah, but controversy is good for the TH-cam algorithm, right! Most of the footage from the S6G is ProRes RAW. The low beach shot at the beginning is just ProRes.
@@FlannelNinjaTech oh sorry I prbly heard that. Tryin to edit at the same time lol. Excited for part two!!! And I guess that’s true haha, bring on the controversy
Is there a difference between the e2-S6 and e2-S6G? Because a regular e2-S6 only costs $2500 in the US.
The S6G has a global shutter sensor
Awesome 👍
Apart from the global shutter, is the s6g the same as the s6 in terms of specs and performance
The sensor is very different and that affects a lot of things. The low light performance, rolling shutter, frame rates ,etc.
Man how do you better buy the Red Komodo Camera ?
You can place an order and wait, or pay a lot more from others who have already bought one and are trying to sell it.
Is it the Zcam e2 s6 good enough?
Where do I buy the s6g? I can only gong the s6 version.
Contact SoltysCameras.com
What song is this? Its fantastic!
It's pretty cool, right!? It's called "Dusk" by Cemetery Men. I think it's only available on Audiio.com geni.us/36cAcf
1:40 guy c mon it has Zraw and is not that Bad. is actually more efficent then Braw
Easiest subscribe ever.
When is the E2-S6G releasing?
Shortly, however available for purchase by special order from Soltys Cameras now.
Are you in the US? Until it receives some certifications it is being sold exclusively through SoltysCameras.com. Contact them to order.
The Zcam “S”6 is a $3000.00 camera not $6000.00. That makes it a lot more attractive given comparable specs...
This is a battle between two 6K global shutter cinema cameras that both cost $6K.
I’ll buy something made in the US.
@@readytochop2462 RED may be a US company but I doubt that is where their cameras are made
@@robertm3951 they are assembled in Irvine, CA and Mexico, and parts are made in China, US, Mexico, Japan, Europe, and Singapore.
@@readytochop2462 Good to know. Thanks!
Does Atomos have a contract with Apple that prevents every camera company from recording ProResRaw internally? I wish ZCam would record BlackMagicRaw.
Thanks for this comparison!
Love your footage (&grading).
RED has a patent on compressed RAW recording, whether internal or external to a camera. Atomos has licensed this technology to bring ProRes RAW recording to other cameras. downloads.atomos.com/investor/ASX%20Announcement%20-%20Atomos%20enters%20into%20licence%20agreement%20with%20RED.pdf
And the winner is Arri Alexa!
Zcam vs Red = Kia vs Porshe
$6000 for Zcam (Kia) ?
And this is exactly what clients and the public at large believes. You don’t have to spend time convincing clients that shooting on Red is a good move. But you will face a massive uphill battle trying to convince them to have their project shot on a ZCam instead of Red... or Canon... or Sony. All have far more credibility than ZCam. And all make professional bodies at the $6k price point. I think ZCam overestimates their street creds.
is the E2 S6 the same as the E2 S6G ?
S6g is $5995
@@TheHeartofuae I think you're wrong, already a few units on Middion Impossible which they paid for it over Komodo, also a few VFX houses that returned their Komodo to buy S6g, I own the S6g and know its straights and weaknesses, don't let RED name fool you, the komodo is a great camera and will produce great images but so is the Z CAM S6g. For anamorphic work the z cam is far superior, and for any VFX work it is preferred. There is big upsides to z cam in the feild also like the 7-8 second start up while komodo is around 28-30 seconds the. Black shading. Z cam ofcourse has their fair share of issues as red does but I wouldn't say red is a better choice in all situations.
@@TheHeartofuae the C70 and FX6 are both excellent cameras but it all depends on what you need. For the price of $6k to the average video shooter there is nothing that comes close to the FX6, but if you need true global shutter and best anamorphic option than S6g is your only option, if you want a good small all in one then C70 is best choice and if you want the best codec with great colors and a nice brand name then Komodo is your option. It's simple to each their own, and whatever makes them happy. I'm just happy we have good options and crazy low prices, never in the history of video have we had this good.
@@ysoltys Thank you, must of just been released never heard of it until now
There’s no meaningful rolling shutter on the FX6. That sensor has a readout to 7-8ms. It’s motion cadence looks quite filmic.
At 1:10 you see exactly why the Komodo is a superior camera. Look at the highlights and detail in the sunset.
Great video and looking forward to part 2.
Does anyone know if Zcam is a company subsidised by the Chinese government? I have read people saying Kinfinity is. I’m trying to find out because ultimately wile China is running concentration camps in Xinjiang and violating other human rights, it will effect my decision as to where I spend my money and which brands I promote or work with. Not that Red have a great reputation either and practically everything is made in China anyway, I know, however I just want to be informed
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RED is made in the USA.
Fake news regarding "concentration camp". Western propaganda at work.
Given that these two cameras are the same price. I’m perplexed as to why anyone would opt for the ZCam? Most people have not heard of ZCam. Whereas, Red is well known and solidly established as a premium cinema brand. Often times clients will pay a premium if they know that a Red camera is being used. ZCam on the other hand will do nothing but sow seeds of doubt in their minds. For half the price ZCam might be something that one could take a chance on... but for the same money? I think anyone that chooses an equivalent ZCam over a Red, and pays pretty much the same money, is making a poor business decision.
The S6G also has some frame rates and resolutions that set it apart from the KOMODO. It makes sense for someone to buy the E2-S6G if they have already invested in a Z CAM product. Accessories for the flagship cameras are interchangeable. There are different mount options available. Also, Z CAM is known to release valuable firmware updates, such as the recent one that added ProRes support for all resolutions and frame rates.
ZCam is used on Hollywood film sets all the time. They are definitely well known. They might not be A cams, but when you don't want to risk a 100k+ Arri in an action scene, you use a ZCam.
Also to add to S6g, it has a 3:2 sensor at 6k which will be far superior for anamorphic shooters which will give a much larger field of view in that case. But if used with standard aspherical lenses than Komodo has a larger field of view.
@@Iknowvfx Can't imagine any clients are going to request and pay extra to have their production shot on ZCam. But YMMV.
Thought the same and this is a weird marketing decision by ZCAM in general.
Just use an iPhone
Nah son
@@Dezdirectz just use an iPhone nobody can tell