Great Work Sandro :) BTW for 2k 120 you still need to be in the 2k Sensor mode also in ProRes so still cropped. Only when shooting in 24p you can downsample to lower resolutions without cropping
OK I paused it right after the simulation remark. I love how TH-cam throws creative channels in my feed that I’ve never heard of. This is already such a unique review and I’m only halfway through. Bravo! Also I wasn’t expecting The Voice dub ahhhhhhh during the sled scene, irrupt it in unexpected laughter. 🤣 New sub for sure!
working constantly with reds and arri's (arri's mostly). but now when i got my own e2M2 ...woohhh...its the best camera to work with .simple ,no stress,excellent footage.
I remember the time I commented on an enthusiasts post that R3D cameras take quite long to power up, I got destroyed in the comments. but it's true, it's pretty slow, and for the money, and in this day and age, I'm certain that should be better and CAN be improved. This comment should probably carry a trigger warning for some haha
omg the "Grab a good friend" bit was so funny! Did not see that coming at all! Great video overall! I'm waiting for my komodo...hopfully it gets shipped within this lifetime!
Awesome!!!!!....You are a talented youtuber/filmaker/content creator and reviewer. Thanks for taking the time for this. Was wondering when would we ever see a comparison of the "cubes". Keep up the great and entertaining reviews.
Loving the videos - I'm a E2-S6 shooter just making the transition from Canon so your videos are hugely helpful. I'd love to see you do a basic colour grading workflow on the z-cam. Not necessarily from RAW (one step at a time) but from ProRes. I'm no expert and I'm really struggling with grading the footage to show its full potential and also to match it to footage coming out of my Canon setup (1DXmk2 and C100mk2). Thanks - and keep up the great work!
Loved the short! Would love to see it again but with the cameras native LOG conversion luts or with a more natural grade. Also I think this brings up the debate that global shutter is next level.. I think that whole debate is dumb for majority of people. Your footage proves that rolling shutter sensors still look amazing and just as good 99% of the time. Awesome video man! I've owned the ZCam S6 but have the Komodo now!
@@PHUKU minimal on better image quality, more with just being able to push the grade harder (no LUTs) and having a better image just off the bat. The red jsut naturally gives you a more cinema look, can get it similar with the zcam but it takes more work and knowledge to get it there. But it’s raw, so the footage is more noisy, needs sharpening.. so to some it might look even lower quality than the F6.
Great video. As always with these type of comparisons though, the one stand-out thing that immediately gives it away is the global shutter of the Komodo. There’s just no comparison in how the Komodo handles those fast action shots in the snow, compared to the Zcam rolling shutter. The Zcam does produce good images and at an attractive price point. But the route to those images is another thing: There’s 16bit Redcode Raw which can be stretched like pizza dough in post, the IPP2 color space, industry standard workflow, traffic light exposure system, ISO being only metadata, Red Control app etc etc.
I own both, and your statement is simply not true. 16bit Redcode Raw compared to ZRAW, industry standard workflow, IPP2 color space, traffic light exposure system, ISO being only metadata, global shutter vs rolling shutter (this is big), more useable LCD panel, SDI output, Red Control app. The Komodo is definitely not an overpriced ZCam.
thanks so much for the uncontrollable environment test! ive been looking at the zcam vs the sony fx6 for travel. id love to see a comparison for those!
Very, very, very helpful. I’ve been agonizing for weeks now over which Cine Camera to purchase in this range. Z Cam is the last of my explorations between Komodo, Black Magic, and Sony. I have to say, thanks to this presentation, I am leaning towards Z Cam considering the price and it’s features. And obviously, it’s toe to toe performance against the Komodo. Very impressed. To be continued… Subscribed!
Hi, thank you for the comprehensive video! The images from both cams seemed similar until the point of starting the glint and the camp fire, which, to me, the Komodo seemed to perform better; the images there were 'prettier' as well as the good highlights roll-off of the flame. Would like to see more test on special lighting conditions (neon, explosion, etc.)
I only now notice that you've been collaborating with Z-cam. Just a few Z-cam video's on the channel. Even a fake rental company website was made 😂. John doe films, lol. Great job.
Good stuff bro. I have the Zcam F8 and F6. Unbelievable cameras. I love the Komodo,the body and that screen is so sexy, i wish my Zcams had that big screen but hey...Close enough
Wow, they look identical to me with one maybe having a hint of rolling shutter but I doubt the average user will notice. I'm definitely grabbing a E2 M4!
very nice comparison and very informative. the color grade on the skin is a bit heavy for my taste but other than that the footage look stellar. to me the komodo does look quite a bit better in some shots, and other shots they look similar. the zraw is a pain to use, gotta transcode and everything so for a raw work flow, for sure the red wins hands down. but for 10 bit 422 work flow, i'd pick an easier camera like the c70 or a7s3 anyday. :)
It's close but still Z Cam looks like a like videoish compared to Komodo to the trained eye. I was able to tell which one is which at the first glance. But if I didn't know there were two different cameras used to shoot it, I wouldn't notice it. The difference is there if only you are searching for it. Someone watching a movie shot on these two cams wouldn't be able to know unless told prior. Vert impressive for a camera that's half the price of its competitor.
I heard that there is a monitor that can control komodo wirelessly. It seems to be specially made for komodo. Does anyone know? Its brand seems to be called PORTKEYS, and its model seems to be BM5 WR. If you have used it, please tell me, how does it feel to use it with komodo? I want to buy one and try it recently, thank you!
hello! thank you for your videos. i have ZCAM F6 and it is a good camera for its price and portability. However, I will note that low jello mode on ZCAM lowers the black point and adds a dirty green color. It is enough to compare the image with and without this mode. When I bought the camera, it was a big mystery to me where this problem came from. At the moment, with the latest firmware, the problem has not been resolved, despite the fact that back in the fall in the ZCAM group on Facebook, the company admitted that it was a bug=( so low jello mode cannot be used yet. However, I repeat that this is a good camera!
Great video! How did you find focusing on the Z Cam? Does the monitor provide focus peaking so that you know when your subjects are in focus? Also is it easy to expose Zlog correctly? I know with some cameras you need to be overexposed by 2 stops which can get annoying in certain shooting situations. Would love to hear your thoughts on my 2 questions, thanks!
I use the peeking of my feeleorld lut6 and it is quite ok. The peeking in the Z Cam App is very accurate. You don’t have to overexpose your shots with the Zcam. I always look that I have all details in the shadows and the highlights I pull down in post. But you don’t have to. Best image you get is on iso 400&2500. Cheers ✌🏼
19:26 -- In Germany, speaking English, with Japanese garden lanterns... little bit of everything!! Kommst du aus köln? Meine Ex-Freundin lebt dort (wir sind immer noch Freunde) und ich würde sie gerne besuchen. Die Stadt sieht toll aus.
For social media I use the F6 with my iphone as a monitor + an external 1TB SSD and record 4K 50fps. With this combo I can shoot about 8H without change storage or battery ✌🏼
Yes there is. It depends a bit on your camera settings. In 4K and no internal Lut there is almost no Delay. And with 6K 48fps & internal Lut is almost half a second delay. With the Smartphone App you have less delay✌🏼
Yesterday I was made some test with monstro, kinefinity mavo lf, z cam e2 s6( and there was a big monitor delay). I can say that monstro is good, but mavo lf is very well.In low light it's even better. Less noise lightweight. I think new kinefinity mavo 8 k will be very nice.
Great Work Sandro :)
BTW for 2k 120 you still need to be in the 2k Sensor mode also in ProRes so still cropped. Only when shooting in 24p you can downsample to lower resolutions without cropping
I couldn't focus even for a second which is which, due to the fantastic way of introducing the story! Dude, it was astonishing short! 🤟
OK I paused it right after the simulation remark. I love how TH-cam throws creative channels in my feed that I’ve never heard of. This is already such a unique review and I’m only halfway through. Bravo! Also I wasn’t expecting The Voice dub ahhhhhhh during the sled scene, irrupt it in unexpected laughter. 🤣 New sub for sure!
Short was so good I forgot about the camera battle!!! Great work man
working constantly with reds and arri's (arri's mostly). but now when i got my own e2M2 ...woohhh...its the best camera to work with .simple ,no stress,excellent footage.
I remember the time I commented on an enthusiasts post that R3D cameras take quite long to power up, I got destroyed in the comments. but it's true, it's pretty slow, and for the money, and in this day and age, I'm certain that should be better and CAN be improved. This comment should probably carry a trigger warning for some haha
The comparison video is crazy good. You are such a talented creator 👏👏
Thanks for your words mate :)
Goes to show how spectacular the Zcam and A7sii are at their price points
omg the "Grab a good friend" bit was so funny! Did not see that coming at all! Great video overall! I'm waiting for my komodo...hopfully it gets shipped within this lifetime!
Wow, impressive work, that's how camera reviews should be made!
Just the edit alone makes this video so good!!! I'm not interested in either one, but I stayed because this video is awesome!
Amazing review! Amazing short film :)
Had to stop half way through to say you have some great friends man
Excellent review. Love that you included sample footage. Thank you.
Awesome!!!!!....You are a talented youtuber/filmaker/content creator and reviewer. Thanks for taking the time for this. Was wondering when would we ever see a comparison of the "cubes". Keep up the great and entertaining reviews.
Loving the videos - I'm a E2-S6 shooter just making the transition from Canon so your videos are hugely helpful. I'd love to see you do a basic colour grading workflow on the z-cam. Not necessarily from RAW (one step at a time) but from ProRes. I'm no expert and I'm really struggling with grading the footage to show its full potential and also to match it to footage coming out of my Canon setup (1DXmk2 and C100mk2). Thanks - and keep up the great work!
Loved the short! Would love to see it again but with the cameras native LOG conversion luts or with a more natural grade. Also I think this brings up the debate that global shutter is next level.. I think that whole debate is dumb for majority of people. Your footage proves that rolling shutter sensors still look amazing and just as good 99% of the time. Awesome video man! I've owned the ZCam S6 but have the Komodo now!
Thanks mate :) you are absolutely right! Have fun with both cameras that’s probably the best combo haha
Hey @cammackey do you find the Komodo gives you better image quality to your previous camera
@@PHUKU minimal on better image quality, more with just being able to push the grade harder (no LUTs) and having a better image just off the bat. The red jsut naturally gives you a more cinema look, can get it similar with the zcam but it takes more work and knowledge to get it there. But it’s raw, so the footage is more noisy, needs sharpening.. so to some it might look even lower quality than the F6.
A looks better to me. B's magenta tint is a bit strong. Also, did you denoise? B's low light noise is a bit much.
Pretty cool video. I actually wouldn't have thought I'd say this, but the ZCam footage looked slightly better imo :)
Great review and very fun to watch as well! The F6 really rocks, love mine! :)
Keep up the good work 💪had a fun time working with you and the results are impressive
Great video. As always with these type of comparisons though, the one stand-out thing that immediately gives it away is the global shutter of the Komodo. There’s just no comparison in how the Komodo handles those fast action shots in the snow, compared to the Zcam rolling shutter. The Zcam does produce good images and at an attractive price point. But the route to those images is another thing: There’s 16bit Redcode Raw which can be stretched like pizza dough in post, the IPP2 color space, industry standard workflow, traffic light exposure system, ISO being only metadata, Red Control app etc etc.
That sample video is a real film and it’s amazing
It always comes down to what your project
17:06 Haha, glad to see my comment made it to TH-cam :D
Great video and great comparison :)
Value and ISO and connectivity / quick Results= ZCam
Industry preferred and color science = RED
Ports and Rigging = ZCam
Thanks for the review. We can clearly see that the RED is just an overpriced ZCAM.
I own both, and your statement is simply not true. 16bit Redcode Raw compared to ZRAW, industry standard workflow, IPP2 color space, traffic light exposure system, ISO being only metadata, global shutter vs rolling shutter (this is big), more useable LCD panel, SDI output, Red Control app.
The Komodo is definitely not an overpriced ZCam.
is 2023 and is so funny this review, amazing job ,
Hi there ,man you guys are good like the intro hahaha well done
That Review was hilarious!
thanks so much for the uncontrollable environment test! ive been looking at the zcam vs the sony fx6 for travel. id love to see a comparison for those!
Excellent review, Love the content!
Wow, I thought the Acam was RED and was convinced until the reveal. Zcam looks a bit better to me, but maybe that's your post process?
In terms of image quality, the Zcam is better in every test video.
Thank you for this, it was an amazing review man!
Very, very, very helpful. I’ve been agonizing for weeks now over which Cine Camera to purchase in this range.
Z Cam is the last of my explorations between Komodo, Black Magic, and Sony.
I have to say, thanks to this presentation, I am leaning towards Z Cam considering the price and it’s features. And obviously, it’s toe to toe performance against the Komodo. Very impressed.
To be continued… Subscribed!
such an awesome video! Very underrated!:)
Can you teach Color Grading in future.Thanks.
great video, thanks for the comparison! I’m happy I ordered the F6. would be nice to see some side by side of the same shot of both cameras
Beautiful video and great shots! Subscribed!
Hi, thank you for the comprehensive video! The images from both cams seemed similar until the point of starting the glint and the camp fire, which, to me, the Komodo seemed to perform better; the images there were 'prettier' as well as the good highlights roll-off of the flame. Would like to see more test on special lighting conditions (neon, explosion, etc.)
I only now notice that you've been collaborating with Z-cam. Just a few Z-cam video's on the channel. Even a fake rental company website was made 😂. John doe films, lol. Great job.
John Doe Films, best rental in germany 🔥🔥
What gave it away is camera A had rolling shutter and camera B looked a little worse in the lower light. Great comparison!
Beautiful work Dude ! subbed
Nice review man
Good stuff bro. I have the Zcam F8 and F6. Unbelievable cameras. I love the Komodo,the body and that screen is so sexy, i wish my Zcams had that big screen but hey...Close enough
4:58 One of the best reviews ever. ;)
dude this was amazing! lol.. thank you!
Good work mate!! Like it the transition 2:54 🔥🙌🏼
Damn. This was a GREAT review.
Epic comparison :)
here at 74 comments- 17,981 views and 923 follows. u are about to blow up
Wow, very impressed with Z cam
This was really great!!! Thank you!!!
GET TO THEEE CHOPPPAAAAA
top production all the way round, very funny, learn things with a laugh, greaaaaat job!!
Loved this review, great stuff bro!!!
Great video and filming
The best comparison ever
Wow, they look identical to me with one maybe having a hint of rolling shutter but I doubt the average user will notice. I'm definitely grabbing a E2 M4!
Wow excellent review. Love the video!
great review and very funny. well done.
Endlich jemand der nen wichtigen vergleich macht💪🏻.... verstehe nicht warum die meisten die komodo mit ner black magic vergleichen als ner zcam 😅
What lighting was used? Amazing.
All the cuts were a bit too quick to compare and the cameras werent shooting the same subject back to back.. buy i think im going with cam A
Damn, this was a very informative and fun video. I'm thinking in buying a new camera and i'm interested in the z cam. So, this video was very helpful.
I knew which camera was the red once I saw the low light noise the z cam is amazing in lowlight
This vid took and lot of time and effort, great job. Are you still using a Z Cam?
sorry i didnt guess which is which, I was immersed into your short film
It was a most interesting review, which I saw.
Is z camera approved in netflix ?
Is Z Cam footage a little soft, I seem to see that in all videos out there?
Danke für dieses Video! F6 ist unterwegs ;-D
Thank you. what is a cam?
very nice comparison and very informative. the color grade on the skin is a bit heavy for my taste but other than that the footage look stellar. to me the komodo does look quite a bit better in some shots, and other shots they look similar. the zraw is a pain to use, gotta transcode and everything so for a raw work flow, for sure the red wins hands down. but for 10 bit 422 work flow, i'd pick an easier camera like the c70 or a7s3 anyday. :)
Thank you
Well done buddy.
Nicely done!
It's close but still Z Cam looks like a like videoish compared to Komodo to the trained eye. I was able to tell which one is which at the first glance. But if I didn't know there were two different cameras used to shoot it, I wouldn't notice it. The difference is there if only you are searching for it. Someone watching a movie shot on these two cams wouldn't be able to know unless told prior. Vert impressive for a camera that's half the price of its competitor.
Great content!
Lol, what a sport your good friend is
Great video!
I heard that there is a monitor that can control komodo wirelessly. It seems to be specially made for komodo. Does anyone know?
Its brand seems to be called PORTKEYS, and its model seems to be BM5 WR. If you have used it, please tell me, how does it feel to use it with komodo?
I want to buy one and try it recently, thank you!
The Komodo had slightly better audio and slightly better image latitude and more accurate flesh tones overall. Thanks for the great review :)
hello! thank you for your videos. i have ZCAM F6 and it is a good camera for its price and portability. However, I will note that low jello mode on ZCAM lowers the black point and adds a dirty green color. It is enough to compare the image with and without this mode. When I bought the camera, it was a big mystery to me where this problem came from. At the moment, with the latest firmware, the problem has not been resolved, despite the fact that back in the fall in the ZCAM group on Facebook, the company admitted that it was a bug=( so low jello mode cannot be used yet. However, I repeat that this is a good camera!
great work
Lot of work in this video
Great video! How did you find focusing on the Z Cam? Does the monitor provide focus peaking so that you know when your subjects are in focus? Also is it easy to expose Zlog correctly? I know with some cameras you need to be overexposed by 2 stops which can get annoying in certain shooting situations. Would love to hear your thoughts on my 2 questions, thanks!
I use the peeking of my feeleorld lut6 and it is quite ok. The peeking in the Z Cam App is very accurate. You don’t have to overexpose your shots with the Zcam. I always look that I have all details in the shadows and the highlights I pull down in post. But you don’t have to. Best image you get is on iso 400&2500. Cheers ✌🏼
they story is captivating, cant even remember this is a review lol
if you told me it was filmed with the same camera I would have believed it
Wait, that's not true that you can shoot 120fps 2k prores from the full 6k sensor on komodo, right?
What is the monitor that you use for Zcam?
Feelworld LUT6
There is something about Komodo and its global shutter that makes the footage a bit more filmic. Great camera, too bad accessories are so expensive.
19:26 -- In Germany, speaking English, with Japanese garden lanterns... little bit of everything!! Kommst du aus köln? Meine Ex-Freundin lebt dort (wir sind immer noch Freunde) und ich würde sie gerne besuchen. Die Stadt sieht toll aus.
Which one do you recommend for social Media?
For social media I use the F6 with my iphone as a monitor + an external 1TB SSD and record 4K 50fps. With this combo I can shoot about 8H without change storage or battery ✌🏼
@@Sandromandro hmm, understand! Thank you! I love also the Sony alpha 1:) but more for commercial films will be use it
The autofocus of the alpha 1 is definitely better then z cam’s or red Komodo’s :D
@@Sandromandro thanks, so we have to hope for more cashflow:))
Now i dunno, should i just stick to the sony A7iii
Hehehehe
Lol
A= ZCAM B=KOMODO
Hi is there any delay on a z cam monitor between camera movement?
Yes there is. It depends a bit on your camera settings. In 4K and no internal Lut there is almost no Delay. And with 6K 48fps & internal Lut is almost half a second delay. With the Smartphone App you have less delay✌🏼
@@Sandromandro tnx for the answer, it's strange, I thought processor is working harder in 4 k either 6 k, because 4 k is not native for this camera.
What about quality, zraw is 4444 or not?
Yesterday I was made some test with monstro, kinefinity mavo lf, z cam e2 s6( and there was a big monitor delay). I can say that monstro is good, but mavo lf is very well.In low light it's even better. Less noise lightweight. I think new kinefinity mavo 8 k will be very nice.
You forgot to talk about pricing 😁
Half day to start one camera? NOP THX