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I think the location made a lot of sense pre industrial revolution with it being a defensible position and before the city grew too massive intruding onto the lake. There's a reason the Aztecs had their capital there after all. Nowadays the location seems to hinder the citys development pretty badly though.
Aztecs had no wheels, so transporting things on boats was the best option for them. An island city with lots of channels meant an efficient transportation system.
And it was the capital of the Aztec Empire and then the capital of New Spain (the colonial Spanish province). So it was only natural that the city would become the capital of Mexico, as it has been the most prominent city in the country since 1300s…
@@kyarden7971 nothing natural about the Spanish draining a lake. The Aztecs didn’t want that. Look at you Americans freak out over lake mead which isn’t even natural
No. Las urbes humanas no son ‘brillantes’. Imposible es caracterizar las edificaciones de los seres humanos mediante el adjetivo genérico: ‘brillante’. Ello es, actualmente, insignificante. La fascinación irracional de los campesinos castellanos quienes finiquitaron al imperialismo aztéquico sobre los pobladores sedentarios mesoamericanos antecedentes es una conjunción de paradigmas fantásticos. Ejemplarmente: los olmecas aparentan ser ya conscientes de la irracionalidad de edificar civilidades estableciendolas sobre superficies acuosas, es por ello que evitáronlo. Los creadores de Tenochtitlan erraron estupidamente cuando establecieron tal civilidad en una superficie acuosa. Cuando, eventualmente, los aztecas quienes eran aún una población nómada rebelaronse, invadiendo y destruyendo la Tenochtitlan prima, cometieron el mismo error que los creadores de Tenochtitlan realizaron cuando localizaron allí sus establecimiento habitacional. Los conquistadores castellanos, tal como los usurpadores aztecas continuaron tal error primo cuando localizaron en tal área una nueva urbanización civilizatória. Cuando son establecidas las civilizaciones humanas sobre áreas acuosas es necesario que tales civilidades sean urbes costeras; contrariamente su hundimiento total será ineludible.
I would have loved to see Mexico City when it still had its canals. The Spanish's description sounds like it rivaled Venice in Beauty and the irrigation systems were without match. I wish we had photos.
@@FOLIPE Venezuela gets its name because of this (Little Venice). Tenochitlan had about the same population of Venice in the 1500s, btw. At about ≈200k inhabitants. The Aztecs controlled a larger area and population than the Venetians (6 million vs 2.5million respectively), but the two capitals were comparable in size. But as to whom was a greater maritime power and more technologically developed, there really is no question the Venetians took that title.
It was the most agriculturally productive area in mexico, and one of the most comfortable climactically (not being too hot, like most of the country) anyone that controlled that area would quickly conquer everyone who didn't. That's why the capital had to be there untill the modern era. They could create an artificial capital somewhere else now though, like brasil.
Exactly, they could create a new capital now (or could have done it in the last 100y) to remove some pressure from Mexico City. I'd not say those cities are artificial though
México has an historic tendency of being exclusively governed by either the most sadist or the one with the lowest morals, the mentality of everyone that has ruled this country has and will always bee to dry up the country of its beauty and resources so he and his family can have a similar life to that of European royalty by building pharaonic monuments worth half the yearly tax revenue inside Mexico city. Is completely madness that will lead to the eventual balkanization of my country. Since we're one of the few lucky countries that has natural resources in each of its geographical regions. Lithium, copper, silver, gold, uranium and rare earth minerals will be the reason the next war will be fought a very bloody war since it will mean the exploitation of more than 10 trillion dollars of natural resources and everyone and their mothers will ship whatever bomb, gun or drone they have laying around for a piece of that pie.
Mexico has had a century to curtail development and population growth in Mexico City and move it elsewhere but they kept allowing Mexico City to grow. During the past 100 years they could have created a new capital or incentivized the population to grow elsewhere.
Where would have been a better location? If we exclude border zones (eg Monterrey), hurricane zones (eg Guadalajara, Cancún), indefensible zones (eg Veracruz), earthquake zones (eg all of the west coast), zones with water scarcity (eg Toluca), then we're left with very little of Mexico. Even if the capital is moved to somewhere like Puebla, they would just suffer from water shortage if it does grow.
@@hilaryhongkong I don’t think you understand the problem - it’s that 30 million people in live a small area that is how Mexico City metro. If you moved 10 million from Mexico City and spread them to Puebla and another city, you would eliminate most of the problems. It’s the concentration in a small area that is the problem
Cities with challenging geographies like this made sense at the time of their founding like Venice, New Orleans, and Jakarta. It's just that their geographical advantages outgrew their usefulness in the modern world.
In fairness mate many locations that made sense in the past wouldn't if you were planning them from scratch now. London for example is a terrible location for a city now because it sits in a basin so catches all the pollution and is below sea level so requires a constant battle against the Atlantic. South of the river was even a swamp before it was drained for housing and industry, it's why the Normans built their fortress on the south bank(The Tower of London) to make it impossible to besiege. It made sense in the past because of the river's resources and it also gives gives easy access to the Sea, even in the industrial era but nowadays you'd build on higher land rather than have to deal with a city that without the tidal barrier much would have been underwater 2 or 3 decades ago and where the next tidal defences are already having to be planned as the barrier could be overwhelmed now at anytime if there is a freakishly high spring tide event already.
Venice as I understand it, was built by refuges. They would not have settled down n that marsh had they any other options. New Orleans did NOT make sense at time of founding. It was built by a minor aristocrat trying to get a sugar daddy, it was a grift, the natives laughed at the french, and it only, just barely survived due to massive investment by wealthy elites and eventually governments. A fort was needed but he wanted a city to get rich off of.
I believe a key solution to many problems with México City relies on water management. It has an astonishingly high yearly average rainfall yet the vast majority of the water from it is wasted on the faulty sewage, water treatment plants and non permeable asphalt. It is baffling to me that I live in Juárez, in the middle of the Chihuahua Desert, with the other closest population center being Chihuahua City at almost 400 kilometres away and we have 24h running, mid to high pressure water.
Mexico City does have 24/7 running, mid to high pressure water. It's just not accessible to everyone. But it's accessible to a lot more than the mere 1.5 million people Ciudad Juárez has.
@@squirlmy They do not force her to consume drugs, it is for her pleasure, there is no double meaning here, if they do not want drugs, do not send weapons
Mexican here, I appreciate you talking about the serious problem of sinking in Mexico City but at various points in the video you show footage from other cities and even at 3:54 you show a headline that says clearly "hospital in Tula", Tula is a county of the state of Hidalgo that's like 4 hours away from Mexico city.
@@lbs7774 Yeah... one of the first were that one about "that we still wore mask because the pollution" we wore it because the pandemic, the pollution never scared us... pollution has been a problem numerous times before pandemic and no one used a mask on those times ._.
Most of your images are not México City, but minor cities elsewhere in México. Your quote about 14 people death is from Tula, the capital of another state!!!! Anther place mentioned is Tlaquepaque, located about 8 hours from México City...
To be fair, it's likely because he googled "Mexico City" and used footage that could also be interpeted as "City in Mexico". Search engines tend to mess things up like that.
Do one about South African cities such as Joburg and their stupidity in placing low cost housing further away from industrial areas with no public transport planning. Would be fun!
That's a great design, if you are inflicting a Caste System on the population. If Workers have to burn hours of their day in commute, to access basic necessities; they have less leverage to organize. The Dalit of India are also forced to live on the outlands, far away from the mechanisms of government, educatuion, and wealth progression.
@@leothelion634 Yes. America is interesting in that White Americans essentially divested away from the convience of the Metro's; imposing isolation and vulnerability upon themselves. And Now; wealthy people, who are not bound to their Mortgage are abandoning those spaces to the working class(Both Blue and White Collar); who are consistently displaying signs of alienation and despair (Suicide, Alcoholism, Substance Abuse, and wealth degeneration)
There's a lot of footage here that is NOT from Mexico city. Like every 20 seconds or so something will appear that is not in Mexico City. Some of these are even tagged (like Tlaquepaque, Jalisco) and a bunch of the information is misleading like the fact that there was face masks in use to protect from pollution, which has happened rarely.
mexicanos neta ya callense no saben que no puede usar imagenes a lo pendejo por los derechos de autor ademas, sabes que todo lo que dice en el video es verdad
@@lemmy154 So uncivilized. Bromas aparte, lo único que vi que no era real era lo del cubrebocas por contaminación, el resto tristemente es verdad. ¿Alguien más del EdoMex que deba viajar diario a la ciudad para trabajar/estudiar? ✋
There're some flaws with this video. Starting with the fact that a lot of the footage is from other cities, one even said Tlaquepaque; a city in Jalisco. There's also a mention of the flooding that Tula experienced, this city is in a whole other State and it's not very close to Mexico City, it would be like blaming the London local government for a flooding that happened in Cambridge. The majority of Mexico City's metro population don't even live in the Mexico City State, they live in Estado de Mexico, so that's another problem to take into account when funding new infrastructure and public transportation systems is being discussed upon. Mexico City's subway is also one of the longest in the world, and the city has a pretty well stablished public transportation system. Inequality, however, is a big problem in the city, and I would say that it is the biggest problem that it faces. The Benito Juarez municipality has an HDI of .944, comparable to Switzerland, while the Magdalena Contreras Municipality has an HDI comparable to Bosnia and Herzegovina. Due to inequality, the poorest neighborhoods are the first to suffer from water shortages and flooding, mainly do to the government neglect to develop this parts of the city. In a geographical perspective, Mexico City is one of the worst located metropolis on Earth, but I also believe that it's inspiring how the city has managed to grow and thrive despite this challenges and that there's people trying to improve the city. Mexico City is impressible, with centuries of history and a vibrant night life. It is a cultural, financial and tourist hub in Latin America and the world. It has it's challenges, like every big city in the world, but I look forward to seeing how they're trying to solve them, instead of just abandoning the city as a whole.
Esta ciudad es una puta cloaca. Hace décadas que debieron fundar una capital en otro lado, solo con el gobierno, y desarrollar otras áreas. No es posible que esta sea la principal zona industrial junto con el Edo Mex, teniendo 2 millones de kilómetros cuadrados para desarrollar otras ciudades. Con el Covid como experiencia, el trabajo en casa debería ser mandatorio, y la gente debería abandonar por millones, o el problema nunca se va a acabar
Yep, it gives off the impression that this guy doesn't know and/or really care about Mexico City, and just made this video to summarize some of the more famous problems that Mexico City faces, without properly exploring these issues.. A damn shame really...
@@radamanthium Correr del problema no es solucionar nada. La ciudad tiene sus problemas, pero funciona. Las soluciones que planteas son irreales y probablemente nunca se implementen. Hay ciudades con poblaciones más grandes que funcionan y otras con más chicas que no. Sale mucho más barato resolver el problema que solo correr de él.
Well, it's not like the spaniards knew about combustion engines. Besides, Environmental Studies in general where not a main focus almost anywhere in the world until the last decades of the 20th Century. Each decission made sense for its time. And yes, each decission got us at a place where we're fucked up. *And note: 2 lines of cablecars are already in place.
This might be crazy, but would it be possible to get Dutch engineering in there to manage the water? If they sacrificed some roads, they could have canals flow through the city. It could be a neat tourist destination, give a way for rain water to collect and mean they'd have more water storage.
Again as was said in the video having any form of standing water will bring flies and mosquitos which given the latitude Mexico city is at will lead to malaria and other tropical diseases. Also the rainfall is far more unpredictable than in the Netherlands, you would probably have empty canals most of the time. they would be more like storm drains.
No infrastructure is safe from the sinking. Even the Dutch can't fight that. As Dutch person the only advice I can give: move the capital somewhere else.
Hi longtime Mexico City resident here. The video was good but it does not go into WHY the system is so bad. It is that bad on purpose. For example, why is public transportation so bad? Well, the police collect huge fines for even the most minor traffic violation, so it pays to have a lot of people in cars. My guess is that the reason why the government has not put in drinking water is that somebody powerful controls the water truck company, and it would face huge opposition from those entrepreneurs/governmentofficials. Similarly I'd imagine slum landlords not wanting properties that generate cash flow to be torn down, even if it would help everyone.
Yeah, I live in Mexico City and I must say that half the year it feels like a desert and the other half like a rainforest over here, also for some reason we can’t have normal rain, ever since I was a child I had struggles sleeping because it would always rain at night and only at night, and it is the worst type of rain: few yet big droplets that can turn into hail at any second and sometimes even cut the power, this happened at my summer vacations btw…
@@juanpablorodriguezjuarez8144 The summer rainstorms in the afternoon are really awesome to get stuck in haha And the cold dry weather of January that make the chilangos say;
It's not flooding, it's a periodic unrequested temporary water surplus. Give it 10 or 20 years and if it's tidal barrier isn't replaced and upgraded London's unrequested water surplus won't be temporary, still might be a nice spot to go to see whales and dolphins frolicking about.
@@MouseGoat I would say rain comes more like in the afternoon sometimes, three days ago it started raining at 5 pm so it varies a lot, but yes the temperatures are wild, in the morning it may be "cold" (12 °C) and in the evening "hot" (22 °C) but it really depends on where you are in the city sometimes rain may fall in the north but not in the south
Mexico city is quite interesting. It is quite a bit similar to where I come from, Kathmandu city of Nepal. Both geographically similar, both planned shit, both lakes in the distant past, both facing water problems, both on top of high tectonic zones. A lot of parallels, we can learn much from Mexico City but perhaps the time to act upon the learnings is already gone.
On the other end of the scale is London much of which sits below sea level and without a lot of engineering would already by like a giant version of Venice. It's getting ever more difficult to keep the Big Smoke viable in the long term as rising sea levels will threaten the city more and more. The tidal barrier was a marvel of engineering in the 70s and 80s as it was designed and built but it's getting dangerously close to becoming overwhelmed already, it was supposed to be a multi generational solution but ah well if we must do our utmost to screw up our planet we can't really complain when our planet bites us in the arse.
@@kuchikopi4631 We're not as wealthy as it appears on the surface, the Tories have severely damaged our economy every year for the past 12 years and we are on the brink of bankruptcy. Still, London will survive it as it has survived everything thrown at it for the last couple of thousand years. It's a durable town because it's filled with folk from all over the World as it always has been, that's it's strength.
I appreciate the video, and thank you for doing it, but just 3 minutes into the video and most of the footage is not actually Mexico City but rather other cities such as Cancun, Pachuca, Playa del Carmen, Puerto Vallarta and way more cities if I keep going… 1:481:533:003:25 my point is, this video talks about Mexico City but every time you talk about flooding or poor infrastructure you show other cities.
Imagine how interesting this video would be if he used Mexico City footage. The video would have two minutes of actual footage and then for the rest of the time, it would be all black
@@karkevicius if you think Mexico City, the largest city in the western hemisphere, only has two minutes of interesting stuff to show then you clearly don’t know what the city has to offer. I invite you to watch half an hour to hour-long videos of travel guides on all the things you can do.
@@DonHrvato there are plenty of stock videos showing the good and bad of Mexico City, but something he won't find is stock photos of the city collapsing or flooded as he portrayed it. Why? Because that's just simply not the reality of the city. That's why he had to put over half of the video with footage that would show other cities flooded or with poor infrastructure.
As a resident of Mexico City myself, I agree. This city is a hellhole. However, regarding the face-masks, that is blatantly untrue. Even with Covid most people don't wear face-masks
If Mexico City sinks, where will the new capital be the cartel strongholds. It’s really tough for a Narcos state. if you ain’t America’s friend, you’re either a Narco state, a terrorist state, or a failed state.
The video follows through in it's theme, but I think it's tone is unfair to the city, it's history and it's people, most of those incomprehensible decisions were taken by a myriad of uncoordinated people before there was any scientific knowledge of why any of them was a bad idea. A lot of it had to do with the legacies of colonial policies, and with the chaotic nature of a city this size, it ignores a lot of cultural and historical context, and it does not make justice to a lot of good choices people have made, like, the public transport system is doing almost miracles if you consider the funding it can get and other constraints it is opening under. And let's remember that cities are like organisms in that they do everything they can to survive, and while I understand there was not ill intent, it feels a bit patronizing to treat a place housing 22 million human souls and centuries of history and cultural meaning as if it was an interesting but doomed experiment, specially because of the way this video's tone paints the city in such an unflattering ligh while videos discussing European cities give them praise without aknowledgment to the fact that they had a very huge economic advantage and mostly a less dire set of geographic and social circumstances, or that, you know, it was in European cities where a lot of the earliest and most impactful to Mexico City's fate design decisions where made. Edit: I separated this into paragraphs
Exactly, he keeps saying throughout the video “Mexico city decide”. No, it was Spanish authorities who decided half a Millenium ago who had no understanding of how to build the city, it’s not something that happened a couple of decades ago. Plus, half the footage in the video is not actually Mexico City. A foreigner who has no clue how Mexico City looks will actually believe that is Mexico City when it’s not
@@NiloNova Chill a little, it’s just that the video painted México unfarely, like just a bunch of babbling baboons. But yes, we have to fix it, there are problems
At 3:10, you mention "gas" as an underground utility, but the image you show is a gasoline engine cylinder head. These are entirely different kinds of gas. Also, early on you mention that the high altitude's lack of oxygen prevents fuel from combusting fully, causing pollution. This isn't strictly true. An engine that doesn't adjust for altitude will not run well (e.g. older carbureted engines) but basically all fuel injected engines (e.g. last 40+ years) treat 25% lower air pressure as simply running at 25% lower throttle. It doesn't have any negative impact on how the fuel burns.
it’s not that bad men, all the problems are localized in different parts of de city and not that noticeable. Not all the city suffers flooding, most of the city in not even sinking, just the downtown. First donut shaped city here we go!
@@RK-cj4oc Christians pray to a Blood Sacrefice, in the Person of Jesus Christ; who was murdered by His Father-Their Lord, to excuse himself of (his) fury at Man.
@@blenderbanana no. He was not murderd by God. Jezus did not want anyone to intervene, not even God, and allowed the Romans to crucify him. At least know Christianity.
@@RK-cj4oc Not according to Mathew 27:46. Luke is the only testament which illustrates an omniscient and fearless Jesus(/Willing Sacrefice); and Luke is essentially describing a Superhero; and shows up in the chronicles much later into the formal esta lishmemt of the church. Every othet depiction is of a Man, humbled and conflicted in his mortality. Lie to yourself, not the internet.
I just visited Mexico City and there is something I disagree with. There might be indeed a lot of human activity and the pollution might be increased due to altitude, but the air is actually quite good over there because the city is incredibly green. There are just so many trees and park it's unbelievable. In Paris, I can really tell the air is bad but in Mexico City, the air felt quite pure.
Currently, as of 6/10, the average pm2.5 content in the air in DF metro area is 6.3x the global threshold for “clean air”. It may be cleaner than it was 10 or 20 years ago, but it’s still not clean by any stretch of the imagination. It becomes an issue when high pressure systems move in and air doesn’t circulate in the valley. Similar occurrence in Lombardy and Piedmont in Italy in the winter.
The air in CDMX is unbelievably polluted. I was there last month and the city placed a restriction on cars for several days do to the levels of pollutants being through the roof. I think the time of year plays a big role. Rainy season, vs dry season.
The city is the result of long, gradual and heterogeneous phases of construction. In fact, to a great degree, many sections of the city were not "designed", as it is implied in the video. It should be noted that big efforts have been made in modern history to manage and re-design the city, such as the work by Carlos Contreras Elizondo and several other urbanists. The video also suggests that public transportation features a poor layout, but the opposite is more close to the reality. It is overcrowding and slow speed of construction the main reasons it is inadequate for the current needs of the population.
The author has no idea of the extremely complex political history of a region that has been under constant development for more than 700 years. He's talking as if city development should have followed some logical rational approach and not be the outcome of friction between complex political forces that change over long periods of time.
This dude thinks people who founded this city had knowledge of the 20/21th century urban infrastructure standards, air pollution, overpopulation and water issues it was going to face.
Actually Mexicas (Aztecs) were far more knowledgeable than Europeans when it comes to managing their city. When the Spaniards first arrived to Tenochtitlán they were astonished by how clean and beautiful it was. They even said the city could rival any European city. They respected nature
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you say that as if today any of those things were taken into consideration, wich are mostly not
@@Travelsandmore333 One of the more plausible theories as to the sudden abandoning of the valleys surrounding great pyramids of Mexico, is the voracious consumption of lumber required for both masonry and for ash to create the mortar they’d use for their complexes. This would precipitate to poor soil conditions, erosion, greater rates of surface evaporation, and rapid aridity of the areas. Similarly; the “mega cities” found in Central America are postulated to have suffered a similar fate, compounded by higher population density, and more abundant rainfall, leading to greater soil erosion and agricultural failure. Mesoamericans made great corn, cacao, and tomatoes; but in harmony with nature, they weren’t necessarily
The video is not showing Mexico City, there is footage from cities that are located hundred of kilometers away. Most of the information is innacurate and subjective
Puso como videos de Culiacán y así jajajajajaja pero si dice problemas muy reales pero exagera muchos otros como el del metro, yo pienso que tenemos muy buen metro comparado con otros
hey it's very similar to São Paulo, Brazil! São Paulo was also built around mountains and a lot of it's rivers were buried in pipes, so floodings and unstable soil also are a problem here not to mention the traffic jams, poor designed public transport, urban spraw, water shortage, social inequality... never knew we were so similar, but I guess this is a trend in latin america
Looking at how shitty Portugal and Spain are in Europe and how shitty even Britain and France's colonies are.... you really gotta suck at luck to be born in a latin american country. I mean traffic jams, poor designed cities, favelas, water shortage, social inequality, crime - including vilent crime including gun violence... Amazing. Argentina managed to somehow go from USA levels of development to African level. Amazing. Man, it's gotta suck to be latin american. I mean it's no picnic being iberian either. But hey... you at least have women with big breasts and lots of passion. That's... something.
Latin America is a fascinating place. With fascinating people and a unique history. The more I learn about this part of the world, the more I wonder why most people don't seem to know much about it.
I'm sorry but its completely different from São Paulo. São Paulo has mountains nearby but also massive rivers that drain out of the city, amd the city is generally in a plateau. Also the mountains aren't nearly as big nor do they "surround" SP like a bowl.
You don't know anything about São Paulo, it's not similar to São Paulo at All. São Paulo wasn't built around mountains, it was built above a plateau as the first inland settlement from the coast in an altitude of around 750 meters, some rivers were piped indeed but only the small and scattered ones, the main big rivers that gave life to the initial town are still alive and flowing naturally, they were just humanly straightened. And there is no issues regarding this whatsoever. There is no soil instability in São Paulo. Plus the city grew relatively well designed around it's topography and projected neighborhoods aimed around the radial city centre of the initial settlement. Most of the city's urban spraw is pretty well built and functional with well off neighborhoods. There is "subnormal informal areas" as they are classified, on the edges of the city, but that's just a more complex problem that goes beyond the City itself and is present in most countries in this region. And in São Paulo this issues is handled arguably better too I must say. The public transit is fairly good for most people, even tho it must expand indeed. Regarding inequality São Paulo definetely has it but manages this issue considerably well compared to most of the country. Anyway the inequality issue is a common reality in pretty much All of Latin America with very rare exceptions and other cities in this regions unquestionably have it much much worse than São Paulo, no doubts about that. I'm not saying São Paulo is better than Mexico city for instance, I'm just saying it's not similar, they are two very different cities each with its respective problems.
@@lucasithegreat2711 Another glaring difference between both cities is how people live. São Paulo has a huge amount of high rises, (one level below proper skyscrapers I guess) while Mexico City favours single family houses with one or two floors, resulting in endless sprawl. Not discounting São Paulo's shanty towns of course, but the number of tall buildings in the city is staggering. Both cities have roughly the same population, give or take.
It doesn't take long to figure out the problem with Mexico City when you find out the reason the adorable axolotls are nearly extinct in the wild is because Mexico City was built on their home, and now their habitat is significantly smaller, restricted to just canals. Thankfully, they are abundant in captivity, all thanks to a shipment of 34 of them that arrived in Paris in 1863. All captive axolotls today descend from those 34. And there are an estimated one million of them in captivity. So in captivity, they are very much a success story, but for saving them in the wild, we can do better It reminds me of an extinct in the wild roach I used to have called the Simandoa cave roach, the only member of the Simandoa genus. They were found in a single cave in Guinea, and thankfully the scientist who discovered them brought some back to the US, because after they were discovered the Guinean government would be destroying the cave to mine for bauxite. They are still around today thanks to those keeping them in captivity. I managed to keep two of them, and they are some of the prettiest insects I've seen. Only one percent of roaches are pests, so it's beyond untrue to say all roaches are bad. Give pet roaches a chance.
The problem with Mexico City is not Mexico City itself. The problem is Estado de Mexico. Where most people live. The problem is that we haven’t manage to make invention go there, create different financial hubs within the metropolitan area.
I have had this explained to me since the sixth grade and I always have thw same reaction. Why are we surprised a city built on a draind lake is flooding? Make a cooler more fun alternative less than 30 minutes away and the problem will go away within 5 generations. Plus there will be a really cool lake nearby with underwater grocery stores.
Tenochtitlán was built not in spite of nature but working with it, with the lake and taking advantage of it with top of the line water management and hydraulic water management canals and fresh drinking water canals however the Spanish wouldn’t understand the concept of becoming a part of an ecosystem. As you can see we are inherited a lot of problems. The rivers were drained the lake was mostly dried and the constant abundance of ignorant corrupt politicians, specially when it comes to building infrastructures. It is also sinking unevenly which is alarming. There have been proposals to attempt to recover not only rivers and lakes in the city but also the chinampa system as a cultural landscape and a farmers market for the locals to prevent more issues but the government isn’t interested.
@@joseantoniodepilares6509 I mean we would’ve if we wouldn’t have spent all that gold and money into buying the Spanish independence from the French when Pepe botellas y los afrancesados. Invaded Spain during the napoleonic invasion. Where do you think the money to buy weapons uniforms pay mercenaries build ships to fight napoleon’s troops game from? It sailed from Veracruz to England who the. supplied Spain with all that. However when you come and impose and cause irreversible actions that have caused a chained reaction all the way u too now then it is hard not to blame them. Specially when they keep celebrating it.
@@afrz4454 A north/south divide caused by centuries of foreign crowns fighting and cutting-up our lands, hasn’t stopped my previously dirt poor agrarian country from becoming and remaining the 7th-8th largest economy for the better part of 25 years. And we’ve been a unified nation less than Mexico. What gives? Don’t blame the gringos either because we got bombed to hell and back by them lol
I was subscribed to this channel since it had 200 subscribers (during the Nikola scandal), now my professor just showed one of your whole video in my economics class (the EU's future video)
What? I live here in México City 🇲🇽 and I had never seen those cracks that you are talking about. And that thing of sinking is true but not on the rate of 12 inches per year 🙄 and the air quality is not bad in general but when it happens only happens rarely not every day…
The location was chosen because there's where the Mexicas/Aztecs chose as their capital, back when it was an island and was great for defence. Then it just kept growing and growing and now everything is about Mexico City in Mexico. All the roads, all the businesses go through Mexico City.
The aztecs : omg i saw a eagle with an snake on that lake, let's build an city there! The spanish : let's build a capital here, I mean the aztecs survived here. Mexico : omg why is our capital sinking!!!!!!!
This actually remembers me of my home city, Bogotá, the capital city of Colombia. You should definitely check out the situation here. You might me surprised, although I can't say it will be a pleasant one.
@@Danisiah1 America pulling an Allende is so 20th century. It’ll be China or Venezuela that’ll end up screwing them over. If not some rich native Colombian with accounts in Malta and the Isle of Man.
Eagle: this snake looks good. Lemme find a comfy place to eat it 600 years later: An earthquake is nothing when compared to what the US did to our country during the fifties. Bombing 85 percent of our buildings, including 75 percent of Pyongyang. We had to rebuild everything from scratch, and out of the ashes of the war rose a brand-new shining showcase capital for our motherland. All thanks to the work of my grandpa Kim Il-sung.
Kinda harsh to say terrible design repeatedly when it was literally a better design (pre-modern) longer than it’s become unserviceable/“terrible” (modern and no longer sacrificing humans so we know not to build on swamps)
Didn't Spaniards raise to the ground what was there and designed the centers like European cities? Everything else after is just unplanned piecemeal, with sort of a budget. I wouldn't dare call it "designed."
Welp, there’s an easy answer for that. Build a new city in a better location for a city. Abandon Mexico City and just let it go underwater again. Now THAT would be a cool tourist attraction; visiting the ruins of Mexico City. And All Lives Matter.
Well, not completely abandon and submerge, but they should build a new capital like Indonesia is doing. Both capitals have the problem of sinking and overpopulation. Also sometimes it's just cheaper to build new than maintanence.
You’ve obviously never walked around Mexico City’s central neighborhoods. It’s such a walkable city, all streets are lined with big trees casting pleasant shade, covered in flowers all spring. All buildings are mixed use with retail shops and houses or offices or more businesses above. Grand boulevards with monuments like they have in Paris. It is a developing country, and needs massive investments in transit and sanitation, especially in districts outside the central core.
You said it. _The central neighborhoods._ And that at most extends 5 kilometers around the Zocalo. (Ah, and without taking in acount Tepito nor the backside of Palacio Nacional) After these 5 kilometers, it basically becames hell in earth in practically every possible regard. And that DOES NOT EVEN COUNT the Estado de Mexico ("Mexico State =/= Mexico City or Distrito Federal as it was early known) If you look the Estado de Mexico (which is counted as part of CDMX), then you will know the true Mexico. Especially in Ecatepec. The downtown, trust me, its just a show for travelers.
Outside of a 5-10km radius of the city center, you suddenly lose any will to walk anywhere, particularly after dusk. Moreover, the stark contrast between tree-lined main avenues and side streets is stark, almost Bolivia-level stark. Tepito comes to mind..
@@HirokaAkita All center, south, and east parts are okay. It's the quickly developed zones and north that are not okay in various degress. And the State is not the city's fault, that's that state problem.
I already knew you would talk about Mexico City from the thumbnail lol that is the map of our city. I think you were very harsh with some of the criticisms, but I agree that the overall planning of the city is absolutely terrible.
The “masks before COVID” is 100% false lol no one was wearing masks before COVID. I am conviced those pictures you showed are all post-COVID as well given the particular mask design.
pfff, this is not mexico, it doesnt have the orange hue on every single shot. Jokes aside, god damn, those poor people. Imagine seeing your house just casually sinking into the ground, and nothing you can do about it.
Nah, that's a little exagerated. You don't get to see the buildings sinking. Only the oldest ones at the city centre which are indeed a couple meters below the street level. Also the construction techniques now take into consideration both earthquakes and the sinking problem. But other than that, the city is for the most part lovely.
If Awful was a TH-cam video title, it would be this one. Such blanket statement to cover an entire city. An over generalization to the people who made considerable efforts to make their place livable. 😔
It's similar to Sana'a city, when the wind blows it carries all the dust from the mountains into the city. The dying trees on mountains didn't help and there was a project back in the 70s to grow trees on mini agricultural terraces on mountains and their sides in addition to building swimming pools and other gardens on the flat top of those mountains but these projects stopped after president Al-Hamdi was assassinated and Saleh came to power.
Just to point out: Tula (the flooded city) is ca. 100 km away from Mexico City. It was flooded on purpose (yes, on purpose) to avoid flooding Mexico City's northern neigborhoods. So, it was quite far and didn't affect the Capital. And Tlaquepaque is next to Guadalajara, in western Mexico, hundreds of kilometers away from Mexico City.
I imagine colonizers hundreds of years ago saying: "What if we built a city on the largest fluvial system in this place? I don't think anything bad could happen" Se mamaron.
This is getting annoying. The problem is not bad design, but the fact that their geography - which used to be an advantage - became disadvantageous in modern times. In olden times, Mexico City was in an extremely defensible position (inside a lake), surrounded by clean waters which provided fertile land for traditional agriculture. Plus, being in the middle of Mexico, it is in a very strategical location which is why it has been a capital for hundreds of years. Basically, its one of those cases when one thing that was a positive in one situation became a negative as circumstances and needs changed.
I'm sorry this is a very poor documentary. Any city that has a long history of ancient historic occupation deserves a bit more context before suggesting it's a simple as a poor design. You make it seem like Mexico City just popped up out of nowhere with no forethought, there was value in its design in an earlier civilization.
@Zaydan Naufal Literally Japan, it never once was colonized and never had it resources shipped across the oceans to a different continent. Instead it adopted some political and economic reforms of European colonizers and in a few decades became an industrialized power that could even challenge the Europeans. Not having your resources shipped off to some far off land but instead use to improve your country helps drastically to become a functioning nation. Thanks to that it's currently one of the biggest economies in the world and has been for quite awhile. So yes not being colonized certainly helps to develop a country.
@@deleeson The japanese were way more advanced than the aztecs and they had been in contact with Europe since Roman times, same as Chinese and any other civilization outside of the Americas bc it was the last continent to be populated
@@deleeson Japan had no resources. There were silver mines, some gold deposits, but they were very, very small. I mean, there was lumber, and lots of that, I guess. It’s value lay more as a strategic possession at the gates of China and Korea. Moreover, the vast majority of the DRC’s valuable resources are untapped, with 90% of their arable land unused. This boils down to way more than just resources and their exportation. The DRC has the potential to be wealthier than Belgium, despite all the rubber and gold they got in the 1800s.
30 years ago yes but not any more, now a days it has terrible hot weather because of climate change and you can literally smell the smog in the air from all the cars.
I swear a lot at everything all the time, but still I think the brutal title is just gratuitous and insultingly unwarranted. Gonna look for unbiased material elsewhere.
Thank you, thats literally what it is, also heads up he used footage from other cities from unrelated states whilst talking about CDMX, he genuinely doesn’t care at all.
yo igual, pienso que algunos extranjeros exageran los defectos de la ciudad, pero supongo su lado positivo es que no vengan tantos de ellos a vivir aqui, sobre todo europeos vienen a encarecer mas las zonas bonitas de la ciudad, mejor que crean que la ciudad es un caos, no vengan, y los mexicanos disfrutemos de los lugares hermosos de aqui, amo CDMX
CDMX needs to decentralize its population. It needs to kick out people to other states or build other cities and populate it with people willing to leave. CDMX has too many people living in it.
la paz - bolivia have the same problem about flooting, because the city was build in a place sorrounded by mountains and the shape of the terrain is like a funnel. the heavy rains that comes in winter and summer are very dangerus. I saw dogs and cats being carried for the rain waters into de sewers, there were cases of childrens too.
Mexico City was built in 1325 A.D The Mexicas thought that the first moment they saw a Eagle Standing on a Cactus eating a Snake was the place to built it, so they built on top of the Lake of Texcoco, So it was more of a religious belief, and it’s impressive how they manage to built Tenochtitlán on that time, The Aztecs built an artificial island by dumping soil into the lagoon. Later, the Spanish build a second Mexico City atop the ruins of Tenochtitlán, So It wasn’t like they didn’t knew it was a good idea or a bad one but they belief make them choose that place and it’s impressive how they managed to built the greatest city on America on that time and the oldest that’s very challenging, A city that has almost 700 years in 3 years but yeah it wasn’t a good idea to built on a lagoon, it’s predicted that on the year 2100 the city Mexico City will be under water so hopefully we can managed something to keep this such as beautiful city alive!
I wish we could get a better structured and informed video on how a city with over 21 million people and with such challenges manages to support its population and work as one of the largest and contemporary cities in Latin America. This video felt more like a criticism than properly informative.
I'm all about urban design and all, but are you suggesting the natural landscape was not well designed...or that the city's design causes corruption and earthquakes. Design is nothing without some sort of context and I don't think you got it here. To be fair, I couldn't make a point either on how design is to blame for Mexico city's problems or how design can save said city because that's just not the case. It could have a effect for sure, looking at its context holistically, but design is neither magic nor straight forward. Imo
When you say, "Who wants to take public transport if it won't take you where you need to go?" I have a problem. There are many reliable transit networks around the world (some don't have weekend service) and will take you where you need to go. The metro in CDMX is one of those. If you're looking for a metro system that won't take you where you need to go, meet Metro Subwaylink in Baltimore.
i remember when our geography teacher showed us how crazy mexico city was and it just kept getting more and more chaotic with every bit of new information 😂
A few years ago I stayed in Mexico City for about a month. A few months later I had to be hospitalized for cardiovascular problems. Turns out I already had a high risk of getting those problems (hereditary), but that month in Mexico City was enough to make me have those problems.
Born and raised in Mexico City. Whenever I go to a place with “cleaner” air I’m immediately knocked out by allergy attacks. To each their own I guess, but by what you say I’m pretty sure your problem was the altitude more than anything else.
Well, it was just a terrible coincidence, you have a cardiovascular hereditary condition you didn't know about and you travelled to one of the cities with the highest altitudes in the world (7 300 feet), and you stayed for a month. Maybe next time you go to some random city overseas, check that kind of details before...
And dont forget that the same thing is happening in the USA. Rusty bridges, bent railways, cracking dams... well, it was built but never really repaired.
Well...honestly say that is poor and stupidly designed...is a very POOR ARGUMENT, that fits better with the context of a underdeveloped country, not with a emerging power like México, specially with most of the areial footage wasn't México City, was in Quintana Roo and another rural or semi urban regions, besides someones weren't even from México dude... And the the real shoots of the main financial districts that say me, is a thriving global alfa worldclass huge city like everyone confirm at visit it...ask to TH-cam travelers not a guy make cute expositions for TH-cam. One thing is some specific points of the periphery sprawls are precisely struggling for water supplie, but assert that is a generalized situation is nonsense...and more with the evidencie there are many areas looks very well designed.
As a mexican, I can sadly confirm most of the narrative and data exposed in your video, thank you! As mentioned in other comments, there's plenty of footage in the video belonging to other smaller towns and cities pretty far from Mexico City. This probably is not a major issue, just pointing it out. Either way, water management is a BIG issue for the whole country right now. There are solutions to the problem, Mexico City recieves a LOT of rainfall. It's actually about access inequality because in reality the poor suffer the most while the rich have almost always unlimited supply.
la informacion si, pero la narrativa en mi opinion no es correcta, ya que tiende a dar la mala impresion de que la ciudad fue planificada desde el principio como es ahora, lo cual no, no es que la ciudad sea un solo error a la cual le puedas atribuir el insulto del titulo, es mas que son varios errores de diferentes tiempos, cambios demograficos que hacen que decisiones pasadas dejen de ser la mejor opcion y corrupcion para no arreglar lo que ya pudimos saber que eran malas practicas, la narrativa se basa mucho en la simplificacion del problema y no indica que en realidad hay mas
The main problem is that Mexico city was planned in the beginning to accomplish very different requirements that what is required now. From may points of view. The historic reasons that led this monstrosity happens are way more complex of what is described on the video. I live in a post apocalypse city, 500 years ago the apocalypse came when a strange humanoid race riding beasts that had never been seen brought weapons and diseases for which we had no defenses. Two centuries ago there was a struggle to free ourselves from the slavery of that race that ruled us for 300 years but was never the same again, now technological advances abandoned us in limbo of the benefits of advanced civilization but without the power to be the empire we once were. Don't blame the city, I would rather define the so different aspects that led this to happen.
Lismore NSW Australia, is a large small town that is built entirely on a river flood plain. After a massive flood just 3 months ago the whole town is closed while they decide whether to relocate or not!! Duh, don't build towns in river beds maybe?!?!
Im going to send this video to my aunt that insist that I should invest in a house in CDMX because it's the capital and she says it's the best place to live here in Mexico...
I think the location made a lot of sense pre industrial revolution with it being a defensible position and before the city grew too massive intruding onto the lake. There's a reason the Aztecs had their capital there after all. Nowadays the location seems to hinder the citys development pretty badly though.
Aztecs had no wheels, so transporting things on boats was the best option for them. An island city with lots of channels meant an efficient transportation system.
And it was the capital of the Aztec Empire and then the capital of New Spain (the colonial Spanish province). So it was only natural that the city would become the capital of Mexico, as it has been the most prominent city in the country since 1300s…
Exactly, not a secret so why so much questioning Why in this video
@@kyarden7971 nothing natural about the Spanish draining a lake. The Aztecs didn’t want that. Look at you Americans freak out over lake mead which isn’t even natural
@@Ogier78 More so that they didn't have any effective animals to pull said wheeled carts
Mexico City was a brilliantly-designed city when it was Tenochtitlan.
No. Las urbes humanas no son ‘brillantes’. Imposible es caracterizar las edificaciones de los seres humanos mediante el adjetivo genérico: ‘brillante’. Ello es, actualmente, insignificante.
La fascinación irracional de los campesinos castellanos quienes finiquitaron al imperialismo aztéquico sobre los pobladores sedentarios mesoamericanos antecedentes es una conjunción de paradigmas fantásticos.
Ejemplarmente: los olmecas aparentan ser ya conscientes de la irracionalidad de edificar civilidades estableciendolas sobre superficies acuosas, es por ello que evitáronlo.
Los creadores de Tenochtitlan erraron estupidamente cuando establecieron tal civilidad en una superficie acuosa. Cuando, eventualmente, los aztecas quienes eran aún una población nómada rebelaronse, invadiendo y destruyendo la Tenochtitlan prima, cometieron el mismo error que los creadores de Tenochtitlan realizaron cuando localizaron allí sus establecimiento habitacional.
Los conquistadores castellanos, tal como los usurpadores aztecas continuaron tal error primo cuando localizaron en tal área una nueva urbanización civilizatória.
Cuando son establecidas las civilizaciones humanas sobre áreas acuosas es necesario que tales civilidades sean urbes costeras; contrariamente su hundimiento total será ineludible.
Too bad the Spaniards razed it to the ground.
Tbf, drying up the lake and the consequent floods had already started in the last years of Aztec rule.
@@AnonymousReader-er4eg blaming someone else is always easier .
@@what-oy8il is specially easier when they ACTUALLY ARE THE RESPONSIBLE , and their actions still hinder the lives of those they affected :3
I would have loved to see Mexico City when it still had its canals. The Spanish's description sounds like it rivaled Venice in Beauty and the irrigation systems were without match. I wish we had photos.
Rivaled Venice? It was twice the size of Venice
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It was one of the biggest cities of the time period. Top 5 in fact.
@@thecollector4332 cool
@@FOLIPE
Venezuela gets its name because of this (Little Venice).
Tenochitlan had about the same population of Venice in the 1500s, btw. At about ≈200k inhabitants. The Aztecs controlled a larger area and population than the Venetians (6 million vs 2.5million respectively), but the two capitals were comparable in size. But as to whom was a greater maritime power and more technologically developed, there really is no question the Venetians took that title.
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Same population as Venice, Naples, and Paris.
It was the most agriculturally productive area in mexico, and one of the most comfortable climactically (not being too hot, like most of the country) anyone that controlled that area would quickly conquer everyone who didn't. That's why the capital had to be there untill the modern era. They could create an artificial capital somewhere else now though, like brasil.
Exactly, they could create a new capital now (or could have done it in the last 100y) to remove some pressure from Mexico City. I'd not say those cities are artificial though
México has an historic tendency of being exclusively governed by either the most sadist or the one with the lowest morals, the mentality of everyone that has ruled this country has and will always bee to dry up the country of its beauty and resources so he and his family can have a similar life to that of European royalty by building pharaonic monuments worth half the yearly tax revenue inside Mexico city. Is completely madness that will lead to the eventual balkanization of my country. Since we're one of the few lucky countries that has natural resources in each of its geographical regions. Lithium, copper, silver, gold, uranium and rare earth minerals will be the reason the next war will be fought a very bloody war since it will mean the exploitation of more than 10 trillion dollars of natural resources and everyone and their mothers will ship whatever bomb, gun or drone they have laying around for a piece of that pie.
Mexico has had a century to curtail development and population growth in Mexico City and move it elsewhere but they kept allowing Mexico City to grow. During the past 100 years they could have created a new capital or incentivized the population to grow elsewhere.
Where would have been a better location? If we exclude border zones (eg Monterrey), hurricane zones (eg Guadalajara, Cancún), indefensible zones (eg Veracruz), earthquake zones (eg all of the west coast), zones with water scarcity (eg Toluca), then we're left with very little of Mexico. Even if the capital is moved to somewhere like Puebla, they would just suffer from water shortage if it does grow.
@@hilaryhongkong I don’t think you understand the problem - it’s that 30 million people in live a small area that is how Mexico City metro. If you moved 10 million from Mexico City and spread them to Puebla and another city, you would eliminate most of the problems. It’s the concentration in a small area that is the problem
Cities with challenging geographies like this made sense at the time of their founding like Venice, New Orleans, and Jakarta. It's just that their geographical advantages outgrew their usefulness in the modern world.
That isn't completely true
@Zaydan Naufal it is not big city
In fairness mate many locations that made sense in the past wouldn't if you were planning them from scratch now. London for example is a terrible location for a city now because it sits in a basin so catches all the pollution and is below sea level so requires a constant battle against the Atlantic. South of the river was even a swamp before it was drained for housing and industry, it's why the Normans built their fortress on the south bank(The Tower of London) to make it impossible to besiege. It made sense in the past because of the river's resources and it also gives gives easy access to the Sea, even in the industrial era but nowadays you'd build on higher land rather than have to deal with a city that without the tidal barrier much would have been underwater 2 or 3 decades ago and where the next tidal defences are already having to be planned as the barrier could be overwhelmed now at anytime if there is a freakishly high spring tide event already.
@@darthwiizius I think we're saying the same thing.
Venice as I understand it, was built by refuges. They would not have settled down n that marsh had they any other options.
New Orleans did NOT make sense at time of founding. It was built by a minor aristocrat trying to get a sugar daddy, it was a grift, the natives laughed at the french, and it only, just barely survived due to massive investment by wealthy elites and eventually governments.
A fort was needed but he wanted a city to get rich off of.
I believe a key solution to many problems with México City relies on water management. It has an astonishingly high yearly average rainfall yet the vast majority of the water from it is wasted on the faulty sewage, water treatment plants and non permeable asphalt. It is baffling to me that I live in Juárez, in the middle of the Chihuahua Desert, with the other closest population center being Chihuahua City at almost 400 kilometres away and we have 24h running, mid to high pressure water.
Mexico City does have 24/7 running, mid to high pressure water. It's just not accessible to everyone. But it's accessible to a lot more than the mere 1.5 million people Ciudad Juárez has.
those who say my condolences and talk about terrible stories because they don't start by stopping sending weapons to the Mexican cartels
@@economiclab1890 those cartels make money by sending drugs up north. It's a two way street, mi amigo. Pointing fingers doesn't help!
@@squirlmy They do not force her to consume drugs, it is for her pleasure, there is no double meaning here, if they do not want drugs, do not send weapons
The bird landed on a cactus and ate a snake
Mexican here, I appreciate you talking about the serious problem of sinking in Mexico City but at various points in the video you show footage from other cities and even at 3:54 you show a headline that says clearly "hospital in Tula", Tula is a county of the state of Hidalgo that's like 4 hours away from Mexico city.
Stock footage is shockingly expensive in some cases so I think he ran out and had to improvise.
@@HARMstudio6 yeah definitely he did that. Because it's not a serious information channel. Most information was completely innacurate.
@@lbs7774 Yeah... one of the first were that one about "that we still wore mask because the pollution" we wore it because the pandemic, the pollution never scared us... pollution has been a problem numerous times before pandemic and no one used a mask on those times ._.
this is important, it kills the credibility of this video.
Right after shows footage labeled as "Tlaquepaque" that is way farer than Tula.
Most of your images are not México City, but minor cities elsewhere in México. Your quote about 14 people death is from Tula, the capital of another state!!!! Anther place mentioned is Tlaquepaque, located about 8 hours from México City...
Tula is not the capital of any state. It's in Hidalgo which capital is Pachuca.
He did say that Tula was not Mexico City but some kilometers north. The other images, I agree, they're incorrect.
Yeah as a capitalino i agree most of the images are not Mexico City
To be fair, it's likely because he googled "Mexico City" and used footage that could also be interpeted as "City in Mexico". Search engines tend to mess things up like that.
To be fair everything is built like shit here eitherways
Do one about South African cities such as Joburg and their stupidity in placing low cost housing further away from industrial areas with no public transport planning. Would be fun!
Agreed
That's a great design, if you are inflicting a Caste System on the population. If Workers have to burn hours of their day in commute, to access basic necessities; they have less leverage to organize.
The Dalit of India are also forced to live on the outlands, far away from the mechanisms of government, educatuion, and wealth progression.
The entire USA is housing far from industrial areas with no public transit
@@leothelion634 Yes. America is interesting in that White Americans essentially divested away from the convience of the Metro's; imposing isolation and vulnerability upon themselves.
And Now; wealthy people, who are not bound to their Mortgage are abandoning those spaces to the working class(Both Blue and White Collar); who are consistently displaying signs of alienation and despair (Suicide, Alcoholism, Substance Abuse, and wealth degeneration)
@@leothelion634 the entire USA is far from public transport.
There's a lot of footage here that is NOT from Mexico city. Like every 20 seconds or so something will appear that is not in Mexico City. Some of these are even tagged (like Tlaquepaque, Jalisco) and a bunch of the information is misleading like the fact that there was face masks in use to protect from pollution, which has happened rarely.
I agree, ive never seen anyone with a mask here in mx city before covid. This guy is judging something he's clearly unfamiliar with.
you are right bro
the air quality is bad but no one uses mask, here
mexicanos neta ya callense
no saben que no puede usar imagenes a lo pendejo por los derechos de autor
ademas, sabes que todo lo que dice en el video es verdad
@@lemmy154 So uncivilized. Bromas aparte, lo único que vi que no era real era lo del cubrebocas por contaminación, el resto tristemente es verdad.
¿Alguien más del EdoMex que deba viajar diario a la ciudad para trabajar/estudiar? ✋
There're some flaws with this video. Starting with the fact that a lot of the footage is from other cities, one even said Tlaquepaque; a city in Jalisco. There's also a mention of the flooding that Tula experienced, this city is in a whole other State and it's not very close to Mexico City, it would be like blaming the London local government for a flooding that happened in Cambridge. The majority of Mexico City's metro population don't even live in the Mexico City State, they live in Estado de Mexico, so that's another problem to take into account when funding new infrastructure and public transportation systems is being discussed upon. Mexico City's subway is also one of the longest in the world, and the city has a pretty well stablished public transportation system.
Inequality, however, is a big problem in the city, and I would say that it is the biggest problem that it faces. The Benito Juarez municipality has an HDI of .944, comparable to Switzerland, while the Magdalena Contreras Municipality has an HDI comparable to Bosnia and Herzegovina. Due to inequality, the poorest neighborhoods are the first to suffer from water shortages and flooding, mainly do to the government neglect to develop this parts of the city.
In a geographical perspective, Mexico City is one of the worst located metropolis on Earth, but I also believe that it's inspiring how the city has managed to grow and thrive despite this challenges and that there's people trying to improve the city.
Mexico City is impressible, with centuries of history and a vibrant night life. It is a cultural, financial and tourist hub in Latin America and the world. It has it's challenges, like every big city in the world, but I look forward to seeing how they're trying to solve them, instead of just abandoning the city as a whole.
Esta ciudad es una puta cloaca. Hace décadas que debieron fundar una capital en otro lado, solo con el gobierno, y desarrollar otras áreas. No es posible que esta sea la principal zona industrial junto con el Edo Mex, teniendo 2 millones de kilómetros cuadrados para desarrollar otras ciudades. Con el Covid como experiencia, el trabajo en casa debería ser mandatorio, y la gente debería abandonar por millones, o el problema nunca se va a acabar
I noticed that too! A lot of pictures and videos showing "Mexico City" as well as news articles etc were not of Mexico City.
Yep, it gives off the impression that this guy doesn't know and/or really care about Mexico City, and just made this video to summarize some of the more famous problems that Mexico City faces, without properly exploring these issues.. A damn shame really...
Isn't "Mexico City State" just an English translation of "Estado de Mexico"? Why would you even use an English term at all?
@@radamanthium Correr del problema no es solucionar nada. La ciudad tiene sus problemas, pero funciona. Las soluciones que planteas son irreales y probablemente nunca se implementen. Hay ciudades con poblaciones más grandes que funcionan y otras con más chicas que no. Sale mucho más barato resolver el problema que solo correr de él.
Well, it's not like the spaniards knew about combustion engines.
Besides, Environmental Studies in general where not a main focus almost anywhere in the world until the last decades of the 20th Century.
Each decission made sense for its time. And yes, each decission got us at a place where we're fucked up.
*And note: 2 lines of cablecars are already in place.
Very true, did not see it that way
I wouldn't say "were fucked up". But there are challenges just like with any major city.
They kinda did with Barcelona
We're not completely screwed up. There still are many things we can do. However, it will be horribly difficult
This might be crazy, but would it be possible to get Dutch engineering in there to manage the water? If they sacrificed some roads, they could have canals flow through the city. It could be a neat tourist destination, give a way for rain water to collect and mean they'd have more water storage.
I dont think a city with that population could manage that
Again as was said in the video having any form of standing water will bring flies and mosquitos which given the latitude Mexico city is at will lead to malaria and other tropical diseases. Also the rainfall is far more unpredictable than in the Netherlands, you would probably have empty canals most of the time. they would be more like storm drains.
No infrastructure is safe from the sinking. Even the Dutch can't fight that.
As Dutch person the only advice I can give: move the capital somewhere else.
@@codex4046 Moving a city of +22 million people is quite a crazy move.
Hi longtime Mexico City resident here. The video was good but it does not go into WHY the system is so bad. It is that bad on purpose. For example, why is public transportation so bad? Well, the police collect huge fines for even the most minor traffic violation, so it pays to have a lot of people in cars.
My guess is that the reason why the government has not put in drinking water is that somebody powerful controls the water truck company, and it would face huge opposition from those entrepreneurs/governmentofficials.
Similarly I'd imagine slum landlords not wanting properties that generate cash flow to be torn down, even if it would help everyone.
Mexico City also receives a lot of rain and being in a former lake bed well no wonder it has flooding problems
Yeah, I live in Mexico City and I must say that half the year it feels like a desert and the other half like a rainforest over here, also for some reason we can’t have normal rain, ever since I was a child I had struggles sleeping because it would always rain at night and only at night, and it is the worst type of rain: few yet big droplets that can turn into hail at any second and sometimes even cut the power, this happened at my summer vacations btw…
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The summer rainstorms in the afternoon are really awesome to get stuck in haha
And the cold dry weather of January that make the chilangos say;
It's not flooding, it's a periodic unrequested temporary water surplus. Give it 10 or 20 years and if it's tidal barrier isn't replaced and upgraded London's unrequested water surplus won't be temporary, still might be a nice spot to go to see whales and dolphins frolicking about.
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Interesting thats its only at night, show how fast the temperatures drop and rise.
@@MouseGoat I would say rain comes more like in the afternoon sometimes, three days ago it started raining at 5 pm so it varies a lot, but yes the temperatures are wild, in the morning it may be "cold" (12 °C) and in the evening "hot" (22 °C) but it really depends on where you are in the city sometimes rain may fall in the north but not in the south
Mexico city is quite interesting. It is quite a bit similar to where I come from, Kathmandu city of Nepal. Both geographically similar, both planned shit, both lakes in the distant past, both facing water problems, both on top of high tectonic zones. A lot of parallels, we can learn much from Mexico City but perhaps the time to act upon the learnings is already gone.
On the other end of the scale is London much of which sits below sea level and without a lot of engineering would already by like a giant version of Venice. It's getting ever more difficult to keep the Big Smoke viable in the long term as rising sea levels will threaten the city more and more. The tidal barrier was a marvel of engineering in the 70s and 80s as it was designed and built but it's getting dangerously close to becoming overwhelmed already, it was supposed to be a multi generational solution but ah well if we must do our utmost to screw up our planet we can't really complain when our planet bites us in the arse.
If LGBT-Hate-exooted by more primitive People aka Republicans
was A State it would be called Flroida.
@@darthwiizius true, but unlike poorer countries like Nepal and Mexico, the UK can keep on throwing money at the city.
@@kuchikopi4631
We're not as wealthy as it appears on the surface, the Tories have severely damaged our economy every year for the past 12 years and we are on the brink of bankruptcy. Still, London will survive it as it has survived everything thrown at it for the last couple of thousand years. It's a durable town because it's filled with folk from all over the World as it always has been, that's it's strength.
@@kuchikopi4631 sorry man, but dont compare mexico with nepal, your country is really poor while mexico is middle-class economy country
I appreciate the video, and thank you for doing it, but just 3 minutes into the video and most of the footage is not actually Mexico City but rather other cities such as Cancun, Pachuca, Playa del Carmen, Puerto Vallarta and way more cities if I keep going… 1:48 1:53 3:00 3:25 my point is, this video talks about Mexico City but every time you talk about flooding or poor infrastructure you show other cities.
He even shows video from tlaquepaque which is a city next to Guadalajara, and GDL is like 5, 6 hours away from Mexico city
I think it is difficult to find good stock videos about the Mexico City
Imagine how interesting this video would be if he used Mexico City footage. The video would have two minutes of actual footage and then for the rest of the time, it would be all black
@@karkevicius if you think Mexico City, the largest city in the western hemisphere, only has two minutes of interesting stuff to show then you clearly don’t know what the city has to offer. I invite you to watch half an hour to hour-long videos of travel guides on all the things you can do.
@@DonHrvato there are plenty of stock videos showing the good and bad of Mexico City, but something he won't find is stock photos of the city collapsing or flooded as he portrayed it. Why? Because that's just simply not the reality of the city. That's why he had to put over half of the video with footage that would show other cities flooded or with poor infrastructure.
As a resident of Mexico City myself, I agree. This city is a hellhole. However, regarding the face-masks, that is blatantly untrue. Even with Covid most people don't wear face-masks
If Mexico City sinks, where will the new capital be the cartel strongholds. It’s really tough for a Narcos state. if you ain’t America’s friend, you’re either a Narco state, a terrorist state, or a failed state.
@@nessesitoburrito8873 wtf are you on about mate?
Yo soy del sur, y tampoco aquí, no me imagino como debe ser ahí en una ciudad tan transitada y poblada…
The video follows through in it's theme, but I think it's tone is unfair to the city, it's history and it's people, most of those incomprehensible decisions were taken by a myriad of uncoordinated people before there was any scientific knowledge of why any of them was a bad idea.
A lot of it had to do with the legacies of colonial policies, and with the chaotic nature of a city this size, it ignores a lot of cultural and historical context, and it does not make justice to a lot of good choices people have made, like, the public transport system is doing almost miracles if you consider the funding it can get and other constraints it is opening under.
And let's remember that cities are like organisms in that they do everything they can to survive, and while I understand there was not ill intent, it feels a bit patronizing to treat a place housing 22 million human souls and centuries of history and cultural meaning as if it was an interesting but doomed experiment, specially because of the way this video's tone paints the city in such an unflattering ligh while videos discussing European cities give them praise without aknowledgment to the fact that they had a very huge economic advantage and mostly a less dire set of geographic and social circumstances, or that, you know, it was in European cities where a lot of the earliest and most impactful to Mexico City's fate design decisions where made.
Edit: I separated this into paragraphs
Exactly, he keeps saying throughout the video “Mexico city decide”. No, it was Spanish authorities who decided half a Millenium ago who had no understanding of how to build the city, it’s not something that happened a couple of decades ago. Plus, half the footage in the video is not actually Mexico City. A foreigner who has no clue how Mexico City looks will actually believe that is Mexico City when it’s not
@@NiloNova tf does that have to do with the comment.
Buena separación de párrafos (;
@@NiloNova Chill a little, it’s just that the video painted México unfarely, like just a bunch of babbling baboons. But yes, we have to fix it, there are problems
@@maikydiboy6377 Gracias :D
At 3:10, you mention "gas" as an underground utility, but the image you show is a gasoline engine cylinder head. These are entirely different kinds of gas.
Also, early on you mention that the high altitude's lack of oxygen prevents fuel from combusting fully, causing pollution. This isn't strictly true. An engine that doesn't adjust for altitude will not run well (e.g. older carbureted engines) but basically all fuel injected engines (e.g. last 40+ years) treat 25% lower air pressure as simply running at 25% lower throttle. It doesn't have any negative impact on how the fuel burns.
If Stupidity was a TH-cam channel, came to my mind when I saw the error at 3:10!
@@ahpuch2236 science and tech improves overtime dude
Yeah I'm not sure why the author of this video thinks camshafts are somehow related to natural gas LOL.
it’s not that bad men, all the problems are localized in different parts of de city and not that noticeable. Not all the city suffers flooding, most of the city in not even sinking, just the downtown. First donut shaped city here we go!
“first donut shaped city” killed me 😂😂😂
one of the fastest sinking buildings is the cathedral, maybe we are being punished by God who knows
The Aztecs were led to that lake by their gods just so in a thousand years those who conquered them wouldn't have access to water
Thankfully the mexicans wiped away any shred of aztec's legacy left. Sacrificing human beings is disgusting.
@@RK-cj4oc Christians pray to a Blood Sacrefice, in the Person of Jesus Christ; who was murdered by His Father-Their Lord, to excuse himself of (his) fury at Man.
@@blenderbanana no. He was not murderd by God. Jezus did not want anyone to intervene, not even God, and allowed the Romans to crucify him. At least know Christianity.
@@RK-cj4oc Not according to Mathew 27:46.
Luke is the only testament which illustrates an omniscient and fearless Jesus(/Willing Sacrefice); and Luke is essentially describing a Superhero; and shows up in the chronicles much later into the formal esta lishmemt of the church.
Every othet depiction is of a Man, humbled and conflicted in his mortality.
Lie to yourself, not the internet.
@@blenderbanana i though he is god?
I just visited Mexico City and there is something I disagree with. There might be indeed a lot of human activity and the pollution might be increased due to altitude, but the air is actually quite good over there because the city is incredibly green. There are just so many trees and park it's unbelievable. In Paris, I can really tell the air is bad but in Mexico City, the air felt quite pure.
people always and automatically think a third world country or city everything is bad
Agree
It really depends on when you visit...
Currently, as of 6/10, the average pm2.5 content in the air in DF metro area is 6.3x the global threshold for “clean air”. It may be cleaner than it was 10 or 20 years ago, but it’s still not clean by any stretch of the imagination. It becomes an issue when high pressure systems move in and air doesn’t circulate in the valley. Similar occurrence in Lombardy and Piedmont in Italy in the winter.
The air in CDMX is unbelievably polluted. I was there last month and the city placed a restriction on cars for several days do to the levels of pollutants being through the roof. I think the time of year plays a big role. Rainy season, vs dry season.
It’s very easy to reduce a complex problem to psychological causes such as stupidity. Keep up with the great analysis, lol
He didn't say that at all
@@K2ELP what’s the video’s title?
@@CircularDiagonal
Making a comment off of a bad title without the context of the video is just as dumb as making a bad title.
@@kjj26k Don't make me start with the video...
An over generalization and a blanket statement. What a way to title a video. If awful was a TH-cam title, it would be this one.
All of this because of an eagle eating a snake on a cactus
Context:
The Aztecs chose the site based on a prophecy that foretold of finding an eagle, perched on a cactus, eating a snake.
When ur city planner is a cactus bird.
In a lake
eating a snek
@@boio_ in a lake
@@coquimapping8680 basado
have some respect, this one cradle of civilization sucking gring0
Car culture kills.
And Netherland is the best
It does, my poor city
I want to see you travel 112 km from north to south in a bike in less than an hour
@@jordiruiz3793 you forgot train exist?
@@jordiruiz3793 You take a bus.
The city is the result of long, gradual and heterogeneous phases of construction. In fact, to a great degree, many sections of the city were not "designed", as it is implied in the video. It should be noted that big efforts have been made in modern history to manage and re-design the city, such as the work by Carlos Contreras Elizondo and several other urbanists. The video also suggests that public transportation features a poor layout, but the opposite is more close to the reality. It is overcrowding and slow speed of construction the main reasons it is inadequate for the current needs of the population.
The author has no idea of the extremely complex political history of a region that has been under constant development for more than 700 years. He's talking as if city development should have followed some logical rational approach and not be the outcome of friction between complex political forces that change over long periods of time.
This dude thinks people who founded this city had knowledge of the 20/21th century urban infrastructure standards, air pollution, overpopulation and water issues it was going to face.
Actually Mexicas (Aztecs) were far more knowledgeable than Europeans when it comes to managing their city. When the Spaniards first arrived to Tenochtitlán they were astonished by how clean and beautiful it was. They even said the city could rival any European city. They respected nature
you say that as if today any of those things were taken into consideration, wich are mostly not
@@Travelsandmore333
One of the more plausible theories as to the sudden abandoning of the valleys surrounding great pyramids of Mexico, is the voracious consumption of lumber required for both masonry and for ash to create the mortar they’d use for their complexes. This would precipitate to poor soil conditions, erosion, greater rates of surface evaporation, and rapid aridity of the areas. Similarly; the “mega cities” found in Central America are postulated to have suffered a similar fate, compounded by higher population density, and more abundant rainfall, leading to greater soil erosion and agricultural failure.
Mesoamericans made great corn, cacao, and tomatoes; but in harmony with nature, they weren’t necessarily
just because the Aztecs didn't anticipate these modern issues doesn't subtract the issues that are presently happening anyway
It's such a great place despite its shortcomings. I miss it and Mexico. CDMX is one of the most underrated world cities.
Agree. I'm moving there next year due to partners work and I'm thrilled! despite its issues, it's a wonderful and vibrant city.
The video is not showing Mexico City, there is footage from cities that are located hundred of kilometers away. Most of the information is innacurate and subjective
Puso como videos de Culiacán y así jajajajajaja pero si dice problemas muy reales pero exagera muchos otros como el del metro, yo pienso que tenemos muy buen metro comparado con otros
hey it's very similar to São Paulo, Brazil!
São Paulo was also built around mountains and a lot of it's rivers were buried in pipes, so floodings and unstable soil also are a problem here
not to mention the traffic jams, poor designed public transport, urban spraw, water shortage, social inequality...
never knew we were so similar, but I guess this is a trend in latin america
Looking at how shitty Portugal and Spain are in Europe and how shitty even Britain and France's colonies are.... you really gotta suck at luck to be born in a latin american country. I mean traffic jams, poor designed cities, favelas, water shortage, social inequality, crime - including vilent crime including gun violence... Amazing. Argentina managed to somehow go from USA levels of development to African level. Amazing. Man, it's gotta suck to be latin american. I mean it's no picnic being iberian either.
But hey... you at least have women with big breasts and lots of passion. That's... something.
Latin America is a fascinating place. With fascinating people and a unique history. The more I learn about this part of the world, the more I wonder why most people don't seem to know much about it.
I'm sorry but its completely different from São Paulo. São Paulo has mountains nearby but also massive rivers that drain out of the city, amd the city is generally in a plateau. Also the mountains aren't nearly as big nor do they "surround" SP like a bowl.
You don't know anything about São Paulo, it's not similar to São Paulo at All.
São Paulo wasn't built around mountains, it was built above a plateau as the first inland settlement from the coast in an altitude of around 750 meters, some rivers were piped indeed but only the small and scattered ones, the main big rivers that gave life to the initial town are still alive and flowing naturally, they were just humanly straightened. And there is no issues regarding this whatsoever.
There is no soil instability in São Paulo. Plus the city grew relatively well designed around it's topography and projected neighborhoods aimed around the radial city centre of the initial settlement. Most of the city's urban spraw is pretty well built and functional with well off neighborhoods. There is "subnormal informal areas" as they are classified, on the edges of the city, but that's just a more complex problem that goes beyond the City itself and is present in most countries in this region. And in São Paulo this issues is handled arguably better too I must say.
The public transit is fairly good for most people, even tho it must expand indeed.
Regarding inequality São Paulo definetely has it but manages this issue considerably well compared to most of the country. Anyway the inequality issue is a common reality in pretty much All of Latin America with very rare exceptions and other cities in this regions unquestionably have it much much worse than São Paulo, no doubts about that.
I'm not saying São Paulo is better than Mexico city for instance, I'm just saying it's not similar, they are two very different cities each with its respective problems.
@@lucasithegreat2711 Another glaring difference between both cities is how people live. São Paulo has a huge amount of high rises, (one level below proper skyscrapers I guess) while Mexico City favours single family houses with one or two floors, resulting in endless sprawl. Not discounting São Paulo's shanty towns of course, but the number of tall buildings in the city is staggering. Both cities have roughly the same population, give or take.
It doesn't take long to figure out the problem with Mexico City when you find out the reason the adorable axolotls are nearly extinct in the wild is because Mexico City was built on their home, and now their habitat is significantly smaller, restricted to just canals. Thankfully, they are abundant in captivity, all thanks to a shipment of 34 of them that arrived in Paris in 1863. All captive axolotls today descend from those 34. And there are an estimated one million of them in captivity. So in captivity, they are very much a success story, but for saving them in the wild, we can do better
It reminds me of an extinct in the wild roach I used to have called the Simandoa cave roach, the only member of the Simandoa genus. They were found in a single cave in Guinea, and thankfully the scientist who discovered them brought some back to the US, because after they were discovered the Guinean government would be destroying the cave to mine for bauxite. They are still around today thanks to those keeping them in captivity. I managed to keep two of them, and they are some of the prettiest insects I've seen. Only one percent of roaches are pests, so it's beyond untrue to say all roaches are bad. Give pet roaches a chance.
You're not american. And roaches are gross.
The problem with Mexico City is not Mexico City itself. The problem is Estado de Mexico. Where most people live. The problem is that we haven’t manage to make invention go there, create different financial hubs within the metropolitan area.
Notice how countries colonized by Spain & Portugal have similar problems lmao
Quick fact: on 6:39 this is actually not Mexico City, it's Morelia, another colonial city capital of the state of Michoacán
I have had this explained to me since the sixth grade and I always have thw same reaction. Why are we surprised a city built on a draind lake is flooding? Make a cooler more fun alternative less than 30 minutes away and the problem will go away within 5 generations. Plus there will be a really cool lake nearby with underwater grocery stores.
Seriously…this is like New Orleans on Steroids
Air pollution
Filled in rivers
Water taken from afar
Is this Athens? 😂😂😂
LOL, as someone living there, u are definitely correct.
Tenochtitlán was built not in spite of nature but working with it, with the lake and taking advantage of it with top of the line water management and hydraulic water management canals and fresh drinking water canals however the Spanish wouldn’t understand the concept of becoming a part of an ecosystem. As you can see we are inherited a lot of problems. The rivers were drained the lake was mostly dried and the constant abundance of ignorant corrupt politicians, specially when it comes to building infrastructures. It is also sinking unevenly which is alarming. There have been proposals to attempt to recover not only rivers and lakes in the city but also the chinampa system as a cultural landscape and a farmers market for the locals to prevent more issues but the government isn’t interested.
Always blaming the Spaniards. You have been independent for 200 years. Get your act together.
@@joseantoniodepilares6509 I mean we would’ve if we wouldn’t have spent all that gold and money into buying the Spanish independence from the French when Pepe botellas y los afrancesados. Invaded Spain during the napoleonic invasion. Where do you think the money to buy weapons uniforms pay mercenaries build ships to fight napoleon’s troops game from? It sailed from Veracruz to England who the. supplied Spain with all that. However when you come and impose and cause irreversible actions that have caused a chained reaction all the way u too now then it is hard not to blame them. Specially when they keep celebrating it.
@@joseantoniodepilares6509 always complaining people remember the shit the spanish do, how borish
@@joseantoniodepilares6509 not very intelligent, are you?
@@afrz4454
A north/south divide caused by centuries of foreign crowns fighting and cutting-up our lands, hasn’t stopped my previously dirt poor agrarian country from becoming and remaining the 7th-8th largest economy for the better part of 25 years. And we’ve been a unified nation less than Mexico. What gives? Don’t blame the gringos either because we got bombed to hell and back by them lol
I was subscribed to this channel since it had 200 subscribers (during the Nikola scandal), now my professor just showed one of your whole video in my economics class (the EU's future video)
What? I live here in México City 🇲🇽 and I had never seen those cracks that you are talking about. And that thing of sinking is true but not on the rate of 12 inches per year 🙄 and the air quality is not bad in general but when it happens only happens rarely not every day…
Si hay algunas grietas pero usualmente es porque las raíces de un árbol rompieron el pavimento.
Your title: Exists
New Egyptian capital: I’d like to introduce myself
we should take Mexico city and push it somwhere else!
Yes Patrick
The location was chosen because there's where the Mexicas/Aztecs chose as their capital, back when it was an island and was great for defence. Then it just kept growing and growing and now everything is about Mexico City in Mexico. All the roads, all the businesses go through Mexico City.
All the roads lead to México city
The aztecs : omg i saw a eagle with an snake on that lake, let's build an city there!
The spanish : let's build a capital here, I mean the aztecs survived here.
Mexico : omg why is our capital sinking!!!!!!!
This actually remembers me of my home city, Bogotá, the capital city of Colombia. You should definitely check out the situation here. You might me surprised, although I can't say it will be a pleasant one.
Transmilenio fue un error, ojalá Petro le de un justo metro (si es que antes los yankees no le aplican un Allende)
We can drink tap water and have far less problems than Mexico city.
@@Danisiah1
America pulling an Allende is so 20th century. It’ll be China or Venezuela that’ll end up screwing them over. If not some rich native Colombian with accounts in Malta and the Isle of Man.
@@Danisiah1 o si es que antes Petro no le vende el pais a los chinos como hizo Correa en ecuador que dejo ese pais arruinado para siempre
I wrote this in a similar video about Mexico City; this subsidence is the real Montezuma's revenge right here.
Eagle: this snake looks good. Lemme find a comfy place to eat it
600 years later:
An earthquake is nothing when compared to what the US did to our country during the fifties. Bombing 85 percent of our buildings, including 75 percent of Pyongyang. We had to rebuild everything from scratch, and out of the ashes of the war rose a brand-new shining showcase capital for our motherland. All thanks to the work of my grandpa Kim Il-sung.
Was that before or after he invented the hamburgers?
Kinda harsh to say terrible design repeatedly when it was literally a better design (pre-modern) longer than it’s become unserviceable/“terrible” (modern and no longer sacrificing humans so we know not to build on swamps)
Didn't Spaniards raise to the ground what was there and designed the centers like European cities? Everything else after is just unplanned piecemeal, with sort of a budget. I wouldn't dare call it "designed."
It was a pleasure to have you around ! :))
Welp, there’s an easy answer for that. Build a new city in a better location for a city. Abandon Mexico City and just let it go underwater again. Now THAT would be a cool tourist attraction; visiting the ruins of Mexico City.
And All Lives Matter.
You gonna pay for that?
Well, not completely abandon and submerge, but they should build a new capital like Indonesia is doing. Both capitals have the problem of sinking and overpopulation. Also sometimes it's just cheaper to build new than maintanence.
They already did this, too. It is called Satellite City
So displacing more than 22 million people makes sense to you?
@@MrBigRafota Would you rather have them live underwater?
You’ve obviously never walked around Mexico City’s central neighborhoods. It’s such a walkable city, all streets are lined with big trees casting pleasant shade, covered in flowers all spring. All buildings are mixed use with retail shops and houses or offices or more businesses above. Grand boulevards with monuments like they have in Paris. It is a developing country, and needs massive investments in transit and sanitation, especially in districts outside the central core.
You said it. _The central neighborhoods._
And that at most extends 5 kilometers around the Zocalo. (Ah, and without taking in acount Tepito nor the backside of Palacio Nacional)
After these 5 kilometers, it basically becames hell in earth in practically every possible regard. And that DOES NOT EVEN COUNT the Estado de Mexico ("Mexico State =/= Mexico City or Distrito Federal as it was early known)
If you look the Estado de Mexico (which is counted as part of CDMX), then you will know the true Mexico. Especially in Ecatepec.
The downtown, trust me, its just a show for travelers.
Outside of a 5-10km radius of the city center, you suddenly lose any will to walk anywhere, particularly after dusk. Moreover, the stark contrast between tree-lined main avenues and side streets is stark, almost Bolivia-level stark. Tepito comes to mind..
@@sergpie exaggerate
@@HirokaAkita All center, south, and east parts are okay. It's the quickly developed zones and north that are not okay in various degress. And the State is not the city's fault, that's that state problem.
@@pottertheavenger1363
Mijo, no todo el DF está tan condesoso
I already knew you would talk about Mexico City from the thumbnail lol that is the map of our city. I think you were very harsh with some of the criticisms, but I agree that the overall planning of the city is absolutely terrible.
The “masks before COVID” is 100% false lol no one was wearing masks before COVID. I am conviced those pictures you showed are all post-COVID as well given the particular mask design.
pfff, this is not mexico, it doesnt have the orange hue on every single shot.
Jokes aside, god damn, those poor people. Imagine seeing your house just casually sinking into the ground, and nothing you can do about it.
Nah, that's a little exagerated. You don't get to see the buildings sinking. Only the oldest ones at the city centre which are indeed a couple meters below the street level. Also the construction techniques now take into consideration both earthquakes and the sinking problem. But other than that, the city is for the most part lovely.
I live in Mexico City and that isn’t really a thing, at least as far as I know, I’m probably not the best person to ask though.
@@danielzagal427
Polanco is suffering great subsidence due to it being built on top of a garbage landfill.
@@sergpie Ironic, one of the fanciest places in the city was built over garbage.
Lol you really can't notice the buildings sinking My dude
If Awful was a TH-cam video title, it would be this one. Such blanket statement to cover an entire city. An over generalization to the people who made considerable efforts to make their place livable. 😔
Next time that I country wants to build a capital city I’m sure they will ask you for permission.
I was really expecting the wrap up to be "All in all, it's a 6/10. You'd probably rather live here than Houston"
I'm currently living in Houston and I would pick CDMX over it any day, lol.
Why do you show footage of another cities like Merida and Morelia or small towns in Guerrero while talking about Mexico City?
It's similar to Sana'a city, when the wind blows it carries all the dust from the mountains into the city. The dying trees on mountains didn't help and there was a project back in the 70s to grow trees on mini agricultural terraces on mountains and their sides in addition to building swimming pools and other gardens on the flat top of those mountains but these projects stopped after president Al-Hamdi was assassinated and Saleh came to power.
Just to point out: Tula (the flooded city) is ca. 100 km away from Mexico City. It was flooded on purpose (yes, on purpose) to avoid flooding Mexico City's northern neigborhoods. So, it was quite far and didn't affect the Capital. And Tlaquepaque is next to Guadalajara, in western Mexico, hundreds of kilometers away from Mexico City.
Las Vegas neither is particularly brilliant.
I imagine colonizers hundreds of years ago saying: "What if we built a city on the largest fluvial system in this place? I don't think anything bad could happen"
Se mamaron.
It would've fine had they not drained most of the lake to build stuff.
When your city planner was a bird siting on a cactus on a lake
Like por el se mamaron
@@hilaryhongkong Yea but also no one could have imagined how big cities in the future may become.
I've lived in Mexico city all my life and have never seen a person wearing a mask before covid
1:06 immediately thought it was a buff guy
This was a city way before the automobile was invented.
This is getting annoying. The problem is not bad design, but the fact that their geography - which used to be an advantage - became disadvantageous in modern times. In olden times, Mexico City was in an extremely defensible position (inside a lake), surrounded by clean waters which provided fertile land for traditional agriculture. Plus, being in the middle of Mexico, it is in a very strategical location which is why it has been a capital for hundreds of years. Basically, its one of those cases when one thing that was a positive in one situation became a negative as circumstances and needs changed.
I'm sorry this is a very poor documentary. Any city that has a long history of ancient historic occupation deserves a bit more context before suggesting it's a simple as a poor design. You make it seem like Mexico City just popped up out of nowhere with no forethought, there was value in its design in an earlier civilization.
@Zaydan Naufal Literally Japan, it never once was colonized and never had it resources shipped across the oceans to a different continent. Instead it adopted some political and economic reforms of European colonizers and in a few decades became an industrialized power that could even challenge the Europeans. Not having your resources shipped off to some far off land but instead use to improve your country helps drastically to become a functioning nation. Thanks to that it's currently one of the biggest economies in the world and has been for quite awhile. So yes not being colonized certainly helps to develop a country.
@Zaydan Naufal That's nice.
@@deleeson The japanese were way more advanced than the aztecs and they had been in contact with Europe since Roman times, same as Chinese and any other civilization outside of the Americas bc it was the last continent to be populated
@@deleeson
Japan had no resources. There were silver mines, some gold deposits, but they were very, very small. I mean, there was lumber, and lots of that, I guess. It’s value lay more as a strategic possession at the gates of China and Korea.
Moreover, the vast majority of the DRC’s valuable resources are untapped, with 90% of their arable land unused. This boils down to way more than just resources and their exportation. The DRC has the potential to be wealthier than Belgium, despite all the rubber and gold they got in the 1800s.
“What if we take the city and push it somewhere else?” Patrick Star
I miss Mexico City. It has perfect weather.
30 years ago yes but not any more, now a days it has terrible hot weather because of climate change and you can literally smell the smog in the air from all the cars.
Where I live it is frequently in the 80s and that is mild for many American cities.
I swear a lot at everything all the time, but still I think the brutal title is just gratuitous and insultingly unwarranted. Gonna look for unbiased material elsewhere.
Thank you, thats literally what it is, also heads up he used footage from other cities from unrelated states whilst talking about CDMX, he genuinely doesn’t care at all.
@@ericktellez7632 Roger that, yeah this video seems to be half made up just to make some cash.
I know that the city have a lot of problems but I still love living here, is a beautiful place and a little world itself
yo igual, pienso que algunos extranjeros exageran los defectos de la ciudad, pero supongo su lado positivo es que no vengan tantos de ellos a vivir aqui, sobre todo europeos vienen a encarecer mas las zonas bonitas de la ciudad, mejor que crean que la ciudad es un caos, no vengan, y los mexicanos disfrutemos de los lugares hermosos de aqui, amo CDMX
@@dazd14
Si, porque han sido los gringos y europeos a hacer “condesosas” ciertas colonias… Osea, nada k ver
CDMX needs to decentralize its population. It needs to kick out people to other states or build other cities and populate it with people willing to leave. CDMX has too many people living in it.
@Jože Ws why? Because they're chilangos?
la paz - bolivia have the same problem about flooting, because the city was build in a place sorrounded by mountains and the shape of the terrain is like a funnel. the heavy rains that comes in winter and summer are very dangerus. I saw dogs and cats being carried for the rain waters into de sewers, there were cases of childrens too.
Lord of Denmark, you are truly blessed to be Danish. Your tongue is one of the most difficult in the world!
Only because we decided to add so many unused letters to our words and then not even say the words as they written XD
@@MouseGoat That is mostly down to the language changing and the writing not keeping up.
Mexico City was built in 1325 A.D The Mexicas thought that the first moment they saw a Eagle Standing on a Cactus eating a Snake was the place to built it, so they built on top of the Lake of Texcoco, So it was more of a religious belief, and it’s impressive how they manage to built Tenochtitlán on that time, The Aztecs built an artificial island by dumping soil into the lagoon. Later, the Spanish build a second Mexico City atop the ruins of Tenochtitlán, So It wasn’t like they didn’t knew it was a good idea or a bad one but they belief make them choose that place and it’s impressive how they managed to built the greatest city on America on that time and the oldest that’s very challenging, A city that has almost 700 years in 3 years but yeah it wasn’t a good idea to built on a lagoon, it’s predicted that on the year 2100 the city Mexico City will be under water so hopefully we can managed something to keep this such as beautiful city alive!
Shoutout to that shot of an engine head and cams at 3:11 when you mention gas lines, I almost didn’t catch it
Next video: " If a country was a stupidity, it would be this one **shows the United States** "
I wish we could get a better structured and informed video on how a city with over 21 million people and with such challenges manages to support its population and work as one of the largest and contemporary cities in Latin America.
This video felt more like a criticism than properly informative.
I was like, “What’s so important about mortar supply?” And then realized he was saying water
Man showed a picture of a camshaft when he said gas😂
This would be a great series
I'm all about urban design and all, but are you suggesting the natural landscape was not well designed...or that the city's design causes corruption and earthquakes. Design is nothing without some sort of context and I don't think you got it here. To be fair, I couldn't make a point either on how design is to blame for Mexico city's problems or how design can save said city because that's just not the case. It could have a effect for sure, looking at its context holistically, but design is neither magic nor straight forward. Imo
This is revenge by the ghosts of the Aztecs
Yeah another version of Montezuma revenge. That’s my belief.
Wouldn't they punish the Spanish then?
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What genetic lineage do you think most Mexicans share in common? It isn’t native genetics, that’s your first hint.
@@sergpie Well ...
When you say, "Who wants to take public transport if it won't take you where you need to go?" I have a problem. There are many reliable transit networks around the world (some don't have weekend service) and will take you where you need to go. The metro in CDMX is one of those. If you're looking for a metro system that won't take you where you need to go, meet Metro Subwaylink in Baltimore.
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i remember when our geography teacher showed us how crazy mexico city was and it just kept getting more and more chaotic with every bit of new information 😂
It's clear you've never been to Mexico City
Very clear
Almost all the stock footage isn't from Mexico City, but other cities or towns
A few years ago I stayed in Mexico City for about a month. A few months later I had to be hospitalized for cardiovascular problems. Turns out I already had a high risk of getting those problems (hereditary), but that month in Mexico City was enough to make me have those problems.
Born and raised in Mexico City. Whenever I go to a place with “cleaner” air I’m immediately knocked out by allergy attacks. To each their own I guess, but by what you say I’m pretty sure your problem was the altitude more than anything else.
well mate, the height here also was playing against you, added also to air pollution
Well, it was just a terrible coincidence, you have a cardiovascular hereditary condition you didn't know about and you travelled to one of the cities with the highest altitudes in the world (7 300 feet), and you stayed for a month. Maybe next time you go to some random city overseas, check that kind of details before...
And dont forget that the same thing is happening in the USA. Rusty bridges, bent railways, cracking dams... well, it was built but never really repaired.
me seeing this without clicking it: PLEASE BE PORTLAND
Well...honestly say that is poor and stupidly designed...is a very POOR ARGUMENT, that fits better with the context of a underdeveloped country, not with a emerging power like México, specially with most of the areial footage wasn't México City, was in Quintana Roo and another rural or semi urban regions, besides someones weren't even from México dude...
And the the real shoots of the main financial districts that say me, is a thriving global alfa worldclass huge city like everyone confirm at visit it...ask to TH-cam travelers not a guy make cute expositions for TH-cam.
One thing is some specific points of the periphery sprawls are precisely struggling for water supplie, but assert that is a generalized situation is nonsense...and more with the evidencie there are many areas looks very well designed.
also most of the country is having problem with water (just look at the north) so it is not a problem of the coty is ore of a problem in the country
The word is aquifer. Say it with me now, AQUA FUR.
You put footage of Tlaquepaque who isn't even near Mexico City, and all cities in Mexico has the same flooding problems
As a mexican, I can sadly confirm most of the narrative and data exposed in your video, thank you! As mentioned in other comments, there's plenty of footage in the video belonging to other smaller towns and cities pretty far from Mexico City. This probably is not a major issue, just pointing it out. Either way, water management is a BIG issue for the whole country right now. There are solutions to the problem, Mexico City recieves a LOT of rainfall. It's actually about access inequality because in reality the poor suffer the most while the rich have almost always unlimited supply.
Don’t give him credit my bro he straight up insults us with the title alone.
@@ericktellez7632 literally an insult
la informacion si, pero la narrativa en mi opinion no es correcta, ya que tiende a dar la mala impresion de que la ciudad fue planificada desde el principio como es ahora, lo cual no, no es que la ciudad sea un solo error a la cual le puedas atribuir el insulto del titulo, es mas que son varios errores de diferentes tiempos, cambios demograficos que hacen que decisiones pasadas dejen de ser la mejor opcion y corrupcion para no arreglar lo que ya pudimos saber que eran malas practicas, la narrativa se basa mucho en la simplificacion del problema y no indica que en realidad hay mas
The main problem is that Mexico city was planned in the beginning to accomplish very different requirements that what is required now. From may points of view. The historic reasons that led this monstrosity happens are way more complex of what is described on the video. I live in a post apocalypse city, 500 years ago the apocalypse came when a strange humanoid race riding beasts that had never been seen brought weapons and diseases for which we had no defenses.
Two centuries ago there was a struggle to free ourselves from the slavery of that race that ruled us for 300 years but was never the same again, now technological advances abandoned us in limbo of the benefits of advanced civilization but without the power to be the empire we once were.
Don't blame the city, I would rather define the so different aspects that led this to happen.
Tlaxcala wants to know your location
Los que se liberaron de la esclavitud fueron los otros indígenas cuando los españoles les ayudaron para librarse de la tiranía azteca
Lismore NSW Australia, is a large small town that is built entirely on a river flood plain. After a massive flood just 3 months ago the whole town is closed while they decide whether to relocate or not!! Duh, don't build towns in river beds maybe?!?!
You don’t understand, an eagle eating a snake on a cactus TOLD them to build a city there. They had no choice.
Some of the images that are used in this video are not actually from Mexico City.
Im going to send this video to my aunt that insist that I should invest in a house in CDMX because it's the capital and she says it's the best place to live here in Mexico...
If you live in the rich neighborhoods then it's the best place to live
@6:05 I laughed at how he pronounced "aquifer!"
If you think this is the worst planned city in the world, take a look at Jeddah