No excuses for EV price gouging. Battery prices have dropped off a cliff and are still falling. Good to see Fully Charged reviews becoming more objective and calling out the bad points if necessary.
Bloomberg reports that battery prices have almost halved in the last 18 months, as battery manufacturers have an oversupply (because manufacturers like BMW have overpriced EVs so demand hasn't grown as fast as anticipated). There's no reason for expensive EVs anymore!
Absolutely! Car manufacturers are taking the p*ss on pricing, here in France most EVs are in the region of 7 to 10 €K more pricey than their petrol equivalents. There's no excuse for it.
More expensive than an MG5 Luxury Long Range with 61kWhr battery. It’s said that the battery is 40% of the cost, so the round dial or something must be really expensive!
Sounds like they are still using the same battery and motor from the I3 which is inexcusable. The petrol version of the Mini is 23k, there is no reason this should cost more.
@@andders2477 as much as I'd love to criticise mini, everything has turned into SUVs, so I'll be grateful they haven't gone down the same route as Ford. The bar has been set very low indeed
Kryten wasn't a robot as such. Some might suggest more of an android (according to the nerdy websites, that is) The scutters were the "real" robots. How nerdy is that?
@@Stephen-Jones 😂😂😂😂😂 Aha! Then perhaps Kryten might best be described as a cyborg? Some might even go so far as to align his '"ethnicity" (FFS 😂😂😂😂😂) with the Borg but an autonomous version with no connection to the "hive mind". That might be it. 😂😂😂😂😂
Yes, for me anything less than 200 miles (real world) is a city car - fine, but don't expect to take it on a long journey. In real life with 150 miles you are going to be stopping about every 100 miles which is only about an hour and a half of motorway driving, I like to think I average 2 hours between stops on a longer journey.
I get around 220km / 140miles in my 2020 Mini ( not motorway ) on average, the new one ( not motorway, not that type of car me thinks anyway) should make 200
It's 28k, which is still too much. You could get a 300 mile range Cupra born with under 10k miles on it for that much Hell, you could get a Tesla Model 3 or Polestar 2 with less than 20k miles on them for that much.
Great review, simple and honest. With the battery prices falling I don't see how the new EV's are still at a premium over ICE versions. Well said and keep pushing that point. I look forward to the day that a similar spec ICE car and EV are at price parity. That is then truly giving the choice to consumers.
One simple word=volume! It's est compact segment cars need to do 250,000+units a year to reach profitability. Outside of tesla and a few Chinese model's no one else has that currently. And evs require massively different disciplines plus software expertise none of the legacy ice oems have atm. Just look at vag and their carid fiasco for proof. And now they wanna pay rivian up to $5,000,000,000 by 2026 for a stop gap solution until 2029 when they can get out their in house csp ev only next gen platform with in house software&cells!
This is a much better review than most: I love how instead of trying to describe how the car handles and ‘feel’ through steering and inches of legroom, he just got straight to the point: it’s not boring, it’s fun to drive, range is less but still sufficient for most people, getting in the back can be hard for some, but once in it’s decent. And focused on: the screen, the ease of use, the head up display position, the styling elements because it’s a mini, and the price. All of this without so much drama. Can’t all reviews be like this one (and the others by Robert?)
Great to watch another brutally honest car review from Robert. Who really cares about the 0-60 time or the top speed nowadays. Tell us what it's like to drive and how it feels. Top job Kryten :-)
I don't know what figures you achieved in the end, but in 2024 for a car that small anything under 4 miles/kWh is inexcusable. 5 or more is perfectly doable and it allows cars to have a smaller battery without compromising on range. Seat did it with the Mii which wasn't even a dedicated EV.
i can get 5.5 hypermiling my partners vw eup and that cars like 5+ yr old design (of the big battery) even my big estate with cruise at 3.8, and ive done 4.7 when hypermiling to avoid stopping to charge
@@OptimumSlinky theres a difference between rated efficiency and whats achieveable if you try. ive done 5.5 in an eup before... not safely sure but doable
I would disagree that 150 miles (240km) is enough range for long-range driving: You want the range for 70% of the battery (10-80%, as this is the range where charging is fast), to give you more than two hours on the highway (a comfortable interval to stop at). 70% of 240km is 168km, which is barely an hour and a half driving. So about 300-350km range is the sweetspot.
Would you buy a petrol mini for long journeys ? I drive the bmw i3 which is the same as the old mini. I don’t do long runs very often. Set your trip computer every day and see how many miles you actually do. Probably never more than 100 I bet, unless work is involved
I’d agree, not quite enough for me. Regular 150 mile trips 2.5 to 3 hours I can do without a stop. Arriving at destination with a couple of % on the battery would be too close. There is a bigger battery option but super expensive for a small car.
I do wonder if the EU legacy manufacturers are even trying tbh. 4 mpk is atrocious for a car that size. My ioniq 5 regularly exceeds 5.5 in mixed driving so something this small with 2/3rds the battery size should be over 6.
Really. I see under 4 miles to a KWh in my Ioniq 5 on normal town driving, and under 3 miles on a fast A road. It's still cheaper to run than an equivalent diesel though.
I really find it wild that I am still watching you Robert, I had been a long time viewer of the Junkyard Wars. SO insane youre still at it! Hope to see you for years to come!
Yes I agree. A lot of Mini owners don’t appear to want to make the jump to electric because the range is poor. These aren’t just city cars. I think this car should have the same range as an ID3.
@@Brian-om2hhin the winter knock off another 30 to 50 miles. It's not unreasonable to travel 60 miles to somewhere with no destination charging then drive back later without wanting to stop again.
I knew what Robert was going to say about the suspension long before he said it; you could SEE how rough it was from the inside camera as he was driving along (roads I know), that arent that bad. 150 mile real world range is really barely adequate unless you only want to potter around town; come winter - unless it has heated seats/HVAC (not mentioned), the range is going to plunge. it isnt a case of inadequate charging infrastructure, more a case of always needing to be conscious of where you need to stop next; and a short range also means those out-of-range trips are going to cost a lot more; home charging is so much cheaper than using even the cheapest Rapid charger. I occasionally do a run to Heathrow (through the Cotswolds = ~120 miles); a 100% home charge costs me ~£3 for my remaining 26.1KWh of battery, then I need 3x 20-80% rapid charges along the way, that cost me ~£33+; if I had the newer version of my car, I could JUST make the trip on my initial charge - which would cost me ~£10.
Nice to see more Bobby reviews, I was half wondering if once he got in the back the rest of the review would be done as he was 'trapped'. Thanks for another great vid
My very first can was a yellow mini. Bought new. A few months into ownership I drove from Birmingham to Bath on a cold day. I was puzzled by the frost gathering on the inside of the windscreen. On return, I took it back to the dealer and told them of my experience. They had a look at the car and told me that the heating ducts hadn't been connected. Thankfully, your sample wasn't made at Longbridge.
Love the show (as usual!) but as a product designer it pains me to see this car. One of the most iconic, recognizable, and loved car design ever to be made was totally disconfigured here. The back looks horrendous. The front fascia lack personality - and to say this of a mini is to say a lot. I hope Frank Stephenson does a critique of this, I'd love to watch it. Also, Bobby, you should have him on the show!
Thanks for saying it out loud! The previous version was much better looking. Even that nice round display seems a lit lost in that center console. Few regular meters or screens behind the wheel would make a big difference. Thank goodness there is the hud and you don't have to rely just to the center display.
If you put in into the context of the average daily UK commute being 20.8 miles, and the average UK motorway journey being 70 to 80 miles, is it *really* so bad? Why pay for a car (or battery) that has 300 miles of range, if you only drive a 300 mile trip twice a year?
@@pachy444it's not about that, my car is not just a daily commuter, it's a weekend adventure vehicle too. I don't want to have 2 cars, I want one that does it all, and for me, that means 200 miles of real world range. As it happens, my Tesla exceeds that by over a hundred miles, but I will accept that's just a luxury, not a need.
The old version did about 130 which is way more that most people drive in a day.... I always wonder what daily mileage people who moan about EV range actually do.... truth is 10yrs ago lots of people bought EVs with a 80 mile maximum range and had no issues at all as a daily driver, seems to me people convince themselves they are doing intercontinental tours all the time when in reality they go to Aldi on a Saturday and 20 miles a day to work 😂
To some of us its not the day to day range,but the ability to get somewere in a hurry, or a sudden decision. We drive a 2024 hyundai kona N line s EV and are currently 85 miles from home on holiday (used 25% range to get here) which is fine, I also use a diesel berlingo van for work. But even full up the kona shows 304 miles and my 82 year old mum lives 255 miles away in North Devon, so for me a range of 600 miles would ease my mind (as the berlingo will do on a tank of diesel) should the worse come to the worse and I don't have hours to charge. I guess " my perfect " range might be higher than a lot of people's nd in time (12 years maybe) main stream ev's will have that range, but for the here and now ,for us it's a mix of diesel and electric.
This is very true. There's always a compromise. Smaller car, small batter, decent efficiency vs larger car, large battery worse efficiency. BMW have obviously worked out that this is a okay range for the target customer. For people who want more range they can get a countryman. It's also likely to be a city, urban car or a second car anyway, so most people would be fine with a 140 mile range. My wife has an i3 and that range is around 175 miles, but she never drives more than about 75 miles in a day, so it is ideal. For big trips I have an iX with 300-400 mile range, but I would much prefer the i3 for nipping about day to day.
Well @pachy444, so would you pay that ridiculous price for whatever that is suppose to be a Chinese attempt at a mini I think it is ,with an abysmal range for the price.
I think it's similar thinking as to why people are so entranced by SUVs, and big SUVs at that, namely that they see them as a vehicle for every occasion, when in reality a 5-door hatchback will do 99% of everything they actually need it for. Just without the 'high driving position'...
Agreed, Mr. Llewellyn. In this time period, the only cars that should be produced that have internal combustion are enthusiast manual transmission cars. The average person would be thrilled to have a car that runs on the price of a fraction of fuel, have little to no maintenance, won't stink up the garage. Now manufacturers need to step up and make it happen!
I have to be honest i hated the circle infotainment with rectangle screen inside on the older minis, and i'm someone who actually likes buttons. Making the whole screen circle looks clean.
Robert clearly likes to drive local, it always makes me smile to see the Cotswold edge in the background. I drive around there quite often but have never caught him yet!
Since 3 weeks I have a "Cooper SE classic" in blue - the car is perfect. And the price on the paper was 44K Euros; but had to pay less then 37K Euros. And without VAT it was 31K - still expensive, but absolutely worth it. The real range lies between 300 and 400km
Perhaps they are still making petrol cars because they work!! When I look at whole life costs together with how most of our electricity is still produced I really struggle to see the argument for ev’s. Love the presentation all the same. 10 out of 10 for enthusiasm!
I think the design is absolutely on point! It is now much cleaner, simplified, and it certainly looks as iconic as ever. I know the range is not the best and the price is maybe a bit to high…but I would definitely get this one instead of an MG4 or a e-208!
I’m a HUGE fan of instrument displays that are CLEAR and CONSISE. What I mean is that if I’m looking for the speed or the navi or temperature controls; they shouldn’t blend together. If you are doing greater than 100km/hr, in traffic, you don’t have time to fiddle here and fiddle there. Make 3 displays rather than 1 display to help preserve the safety for the driver. Rather a disappointment to remove a physically shielded driver cluster (showing speed, distance, warnings, other essentials). I’m not turning my head to look at a central display that the passenger can play with. That is a hazard. (To be clear about heads up displays, you can do a windshield projection and have a decent daylight visibility while it creates no clutter. The little tinted glass where a proper clutter belongs is a failure honestly.)
I like the comment of not messing with the screen as concentrating to stay safe. Now drive on our roads and adjust the temperature and fan speed and fan direction on these ridiculous touch screens.
The Mini website says that the head up display (+ a few of the other features in the Mini tested here) are not standard but come as part of a £2000 Level 1 upgrade package! Sorry Robert, but it looks like someone fibbed if they told you that you were driving the base model.
Agree, will take a MG4 any day instead, thanks Robert for covering this and the personal comparison This new Mini is not for practicality but for peoples wanting their own Mini, this is the best one yet
I have an MG 4 and it's definitely still a great car. The infotainment system is a bit whiffy but the driving experience is excellent and it's excellent value too
This misses the point of a MINI. If you are just after m/kWh, an e-bike will go 60 miles from a 1/2 kWh battery and be orders of magnitudes better in m/kWh/£. When the parameters of the comparison aren't specified, the result can be whatever you want :) There really is no competition (as you refer to). When the Renault 5 comes out, maybe then - but the only comparison for fun I can think of is a Taycan. I believe the MINI stacks up quite nicely on price. Oh, I have driven almost every EV model available in Oz, so this isn't an empty statement. Now £ / smile (patented) is a different matter. For the price, no EV is more fun to drive. That is why people buy MINIs, not for their efficiency, space, comfort or range.
@@js-hl5hv fair comment, being fun to drive is good to have, if that's important to you. For me efficiency is more important for , you know, saving the planet etc. But overall I think it's really good that the new Mini has a practical range that will encourage people to get it and not just as a second car.
5:18 Somebody got the efficiency wrong 😅. If the efficiency is 261 Wh/mile, it should be 163 Wh/km (dividing 261 by 1.6, but somebody multiplied it instead 😅)
@@MiesvanderLippe you pay kwh, your battery has kwh, you charge in kw. I don't need know what I use to go to ikea 5km away but I want to know how much I use per month or when I drive longer distances to a different city.
It shares its platform with the GWM Ora as GWM and BMW developed the platform together. I find it interesting that the GWM gets a bigger battery though and that the Mini has much less range. I can see some GWM bits in the interior as well and i'd bet that a fair bit of the mechanicals are GWM too. In essence, its a Chinese German British car!
Thanks for the video. I think the Renault R5 Etech is more in line with the form/design of this mini. And that one is A LOT cheaper. The plus for this mini is, it is a sporty 2-door EV, and that is about unique.
Indeed..The Inster will be at least £10k cheaper than the mini be more practical, well built as all Hyundai's are and more comfy. Mini is an exercise in style over substance and later this year it will be up against the Renault 5 which is even more funky, cute and will no doubt be much cheaper
I think it's cute, fun, and cheerful. Even the yellow color and I'm not usually a fan of yellow. Oh and that sound you can't drive without it being on that adds personality to the car
Great review Rob! I had the F56 Mini Electric, I loved it. You got to consider the Mini factor, about 100miles is about 90miles once you've really booted it! I loved my 'old' Mini Electric but with a fatal flaw of 90miles range, it really wasn't usable even for motorway commuting as you can't guarantee the destination would have charging and public charging is so costly anyway. I suspect with the newest mini ev, the range of approx 150miles would drop to around 130miles once you had abit of fun in it! Still not a usable range in my opinion, I think 200miles is an optimum range in the UK to get from A-B and back again without getting stung by public charging, which in some cases is more expensive than fuel... I think it should really be used to top up. I found myself regularly charging near empty at public chargers. I've gone back to petrol. But in the hope that public leccy will get less expensive and when EV's come down in price with an effective range of around 200miles :)
Thanks Robert, great review! Not to be negative, but I've been a bit more critical of the latest MINI refresh. I want a small electric car for the limited city driving I do, so range it's my issue. But as a MINI purist, the exterior design has been downhill for ages. (Not to mention this model is still larger than the first 2 iterations). I'm not a fan of either the front end (it's looking like a lexus) and especially the backend (which no longer looks like a MINI). And the back turn lights point in the wrong direction again! The price is odd; the electric models are apparently made in China (so maybe the higher price is from tariffs). Sadly the MINI is billed as a "premium" car; not driving an oversized SUV shouldn't be premium.
I think you hit the nail on the head - it should be cheaper than the petrol version, not massively more expensive. Until this happens across the board mainstream adoption will be stunted. Still, I bet we'll be seeing a lot of these around London and the Cotswolds!
I firmly believe it there's a 15% markup on the petrol version then there's a 80-100% on the electric one. I remember journalists saying EVs will be cheaper due to lower cost of parts AND fewer parts AND cheap charging, yet we see luxury prices for 4 seaters and ranges that the Chinese had in 2010. I can't wait for the oncoming storm to wash out all this crap so freedom of movement won't be a luxury
Those rear lights are ridiculous - I realise they’re supposed to be half a Union Jack, but they look like arrows pointing the wrong way. Indicate left, arrow points right.
Happy to see more bespoke EV platforms being designed. And I really love the circular screen, very cool. But Bobby is right, the price needs to come down. And yes, why the heck are some dimwits still making fossil cars in 2024??
That big round screen at the front.... I'm hoping the electronics industry magazines/sites have articles and interviews with the EEs who worked on that. It looks challenging in terms of manufacturing.
Took a test drive in both the new Minis and I was surprised how harsh the suspension was. Even around town you felt every lump and bump in the road. Our Mazda MX5 feels like a magic carpet ride by comparison.
with it being a mini the price was always going to be high, compared to other brands. I think the fact the car makes a sound as you drive is really good. I think these should be mandatory for the safety of pedestrians and other road users.
@7:02. OMG As an owner of a R56 Cooper S and 60 years old, I was not prepared for what was to take place. I apologize as I laughed myself silly watching Rob attempt to place himself in the rear seat. I have no doubt the cameraman (After hearing those grunts and sounds). dialed up roadside extraction services to 'rescue' Rob. 🙏 In 2007 getting in the rear of my 6-speed MINI Cooper S was not a problem however, doing the same in 2024 is not an option. Excellent review.
150miles, in ideal conditions. Unfortunately that is not sufficient here in Canada as real world would be closer to 100miles during our 6 month winter season.
Finally! A car that they've properly designed the radar sensor (black box thing) for. So many cars have them plonked on, but the Mini has it neatly in the centre.
About the range - this is the base model, the SE model claims 250 miles WLTP to probably about 200 miles in the real world. But obviously is more expensive (around £40k with the higher trim). I've already ordered mine :D Not the cheapest car, I could have got better value for money in terms of range/cost but the Mini was just so much better to drive than the MG4, e-208 or Zoe.
I’ve always liked the mini , tip on getting in the back , as well as tippin the front seat forward it also moves forwards by using a small lever underneath, making it easy to get in 😂😂😂👍👍
Great review Robert. Totally agree, Mini could have been more ambitious with the range. Looks fun but will be interesting to see how it compares to the Renault 5.
I think it's great that BMW are making cars with small batteries. In the real world, the vast majority of small car drivers simply don't drive very far on a regular basis. What ACTUALLY matters when you've lived with an electric car for a bit is actually how fast and reliably it fast charges for those occasional long trips! I've driven a BMW i3 for 10 years, and its absolute fine for non regular longer trips, and the rest of the time, it's hilariously fun to drive (185 bhp, 1250kg, carbon tub, rwd) The 95kW charging rate for the Cooper SE equates to adding nearly 400 miles in an hour, so in the real world, a huge proportion of trips are not going to be much of an inconvinence!
Took 1 out for a drive, its a nice car but I told the sales guy it's just too expensive especially with the C3, renault 5, Panda and the Inster coming soon.
I volunteered at the 2012 paralympic games road cycling events (and Olympic games) controlling the race vehicles, supplied by BMW. They had an electric mini they were testing out but it kept breaking down. The whole of the back seat was filled with batteries so it was definitely a prototype! I remember thinking how cool it would be to drive an EV. Even though it was a prototype it still accelerated very quickly.
A great down to earth review, but this mini needs the indicators below the lights, as It just looks too plain and un mini like. The rear lights too don't look right (the old model ones looked better). Also never in mini history have the rear lights been triangles?
A MINI with triangles - who has a new lover at the design division_ Everything it should not be! The sound rocks, rear lights such on all levels - a vibe of a Dacia
Always love cheerful mini style and round screen… It’s so nice!! But I don’t think 35k starting price is justifiable. It should start from 20k, maybe 25k.
If you need a break after three hours driving you need to hand in your licence. It’s also the fact you need somewhere guarenteed to charge it up when you get to your destination 75 miles away before you come home. Probably 60 miles because nobody drives around with less than a 10 miles range…
They're making petrol/diesel cars because they're £10,000 cheaper and not everyone has the ability to charge an EV at home and the charging infrastructure is a few years off being fit for purpose.
EVs are not at all more expensive, this is just price gouging. The petrol equivalent is £23,150 compared to £30,000 for the slightly more powerful EV. Then you have to factor in the savings in running costs and maintenance over time. However, I agree that this Mini EV price is Crazy - A MG4 EV can be bought for around the same price as the Petrol Mini (which seems to be only available as an automatic)
The round screen in the classic mini was a speedometer, the reason was because BMC needed to save money by not having to make a left and right hand drive dashboard. Despite this, the brilliant owners of the company were such geniuses that they lost money on every car they sold because they had not managed to grasp the concept of math and accounting.
@@simonmatthews7512 I learned to drive in the Classic Mini, learned automotive repair and maintenance and knew it enough that when my High School Auto repair teacher had us draw a diagram of a car's ignition and starter circuit, I drew the Mini's ignition and starter circuit instead of the one in our instruction books. So no, what I said about why the classic mini had a center mounted speedometer is pretty well known
can't remember last time I've been this excited about the mini cooper, maybe the first time top gear reviewed one. however, that excitement crushed down as I realized price will likely cost as much as larger EVs from other brands.
Think I prefer the old look and interior. Have had a Mini E for three years and love it. Luckily enough to combine with other vehicles which can handle long distance so range not an issue. Definitely car of choice for local travel.
I don't find the MG LKA annoying at all, I have he sensitivity set to min and keep within the lane markings. It's not active below 35 mph. Just use your indicators and keep in the lane.
avg motorway speed in the UK is just under 50mph iirc (yes, the *limit* is 70mph - but you're not going to achieve that for long, due to congestion, roadworks, and so on).
It's good to see Robert doing car reviews again, but I'm afraid it's a BIG miss for me and I think we'll be keeping our original 2020 Mini Electric rather than get the new one 🙁 - the bodywork no longer really looks like a mini (that rear end?! 😮) and has horrible creases in it so that it looks like it's had a prang at sometime, plus the handles will be a haven for spiders! 😆 - the interior looks really cheap, especially the buttons, and not worth the 30 grand price tag (an increase of £6k on ours?!) - yes the screen is nice but the changing of modes is sooo slow (5secs) & impractical and a backwards step from the 2020 model which is an instant change. I do agree wirh Robert that the range is more than adequate (we've had 120miles & 15% battery left before now) and a smaller battery just means quicker charging stops 😃 With the likes of the Renault 5, Fiat Grande Panda & Hyundai Inster (to name but a few) all coming out soon, cheaper and going further on a charge, I think Mini will struggle to sell these... 😬
"I cann't do 3 hours on a motorway, I need to have a wee" The joys of getting older! But if you cannot do 150 miles on a motorway in a lot less than 3 hours (roadworks permitting!) then I suggest Bobby you are no longer particularly safe on motorways. I suspect the range is actually closer to 190 miles in urban environments (under 4m/kw) but 150 miles on motorway at normal motorway speeds sounds about right. But the Mini is not intended as a motorway cruiser, merely a city car so for that the range is fine. As the video suggests, the new Mini is for Mini fans only. It is completely outclassed by the MG4 and BYD Dolphin. If it was priced at c. £23-24,000 then it would be viable option
I see what you’re saying, but the cheapest car on sale today is almost £14k. I just don’t think it’s possible to make a £10k car anymore with the extra safety regulations
I'm glad this Honda E made you laugh and giggle. I suppose Rowan Atkinson might have to reinvent Mr. Bean as a Honda E driving giggling Kryten. Maybe change the color and call the Honda E his Red Dwarf. Kinda like the Green Hornet, but nerdy and relatable. Let's be fair, none of us can afford these "spaceship"-budget EVs.
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No excuses for EV price gouging. Battery prices have dropped off a cliff and are still falling. Good to see Fully Charged reviews becoming more objective and calling out the bad points if necessary.
Bloomberg reports that battery prices have almost halved in the last 18 months, as battery manufacturers have an oversupply (because manufacturers like BMW have overpriced EVs so demand hasn't grown as fast as anticipated). There's no reason for expensive EVs anymore!
Absolutely! Car manufacturers are taking the p*ss on pricing, here in France most EVs are in the region of 7 to 10 €K more pricey than their petrol equivalents. There's no excuse for it.
More expensive than an MG5 Luxury Long Range with 61kWhr battery. It’s said that the battery is 40% of the cost, so the round dial or something must be really expensive!
Sounds like they are still using the same battery and motor from the I3 which is inexcusable. The petrol version of the Mini is 23k, there is no reason this should cost more.
Isn’t this the mini model which is manufactured in China anyhow?
Nice to see they are not all getting bigger, that is the size a mini should be. A little to expensive. Good to see Bobby doing testing.
It's feckin *massive*, for a mini :( (and the range is dire too)
If Mini's got any bigger they could replace Transits... they're huge compared to old car, and bigger than a lot of others on the road.
@@andders2477 as much as I'd love to criticise mini, everything has turned into SUVs, so I'll be grateful they haven't gone down the same route as Ford. The bar has been set very low indeed
It's huge and bloated.
"Not that I've had much experience of science fiction robots". Said with a perfectly straight face.
Kryten wasn't a robot as such. Some might suggest more of an android (according to the nerdy websites, that is)
The scutters were the "real" robots.
How nerdy is that?
😂😂😂😂
There again, to repeat, some might class Kryten as an android.
There's a lot of that sort of opinion to be found on nerdy sites.
So I gather.
Really nerdy.
@@t1n4444 in the episode DNA it is mentioned that Kryten's brain is "part-organic" just to make it even more complicated 🤣
@@Stephen-Jones
😂😂😂😂😂
Aha!
Then perhaps Kryten might best be described as a cyborg?
Some might even go so far as to align his '"ethnicity" (FFS 😂😂😂😂😂) with the Borg but an autonomous version with no connection to the "hive mind".
That might be it.
😂😂😂😂😂
for 150 miles of range, it should cost under 20K, not 38K
Yes, for me anything less than 200 miles (real world) is a city car - fine, but don't expect to take it on a long journey. In real life with 150 miles you are going to be stopping about every 100 miles which is only about an hour and a half of motorway driving, I like to think I average 2 hours between stops on a longer journey.
I get around 220km / 140miles in my 2020 Mini ( not motorway ) on average, the new one ( not motorway, not that type of car me thinks anyway) should make 200
I mean it should definitely be cheaper than it is, but virtually no car is less than $20k these days.
It's 28k, which is still too much. You could get a 300 mile range Cupra born with under 10k miles on it for that much
Hell, you could get a Tesla Model 3 or Polestar 2 with less than 20k miles on them for that much.
@@smitabhmoitra5726 Yeah but why would you have a Tesla?
Great review, simple and honest. With the battery prices falling I don't see how the new EV's are still at a premium over ICE versions. Well said and keep pushing that point. I look forward to the day that a similar spec ICE car and EV are at price parity. That is then truly giving the choice to consumers.
They are already at price parity in China.
One simple word=volume! It's est compact segment cars need to do 250,000+units a year to reach profitability.
Outside of tesla and a few Chinese model's no one else has that currently.
And evs require massively different disciplines plus software expertise none of the legacy ice oems have atm. Just look at vag and their carid fiasco for proof. And now they wanna pay rivian up to $5,000,000,000 by 2026 for a stop gap solution until 2029 when they can get out their in house csp ev only next gen platform with in house software&cells!
This is a much better review than most: I love how instead of trying to describe how the car handles and ‘feel’ through steering and inches of legroom, he just got straight to the point: it’s not boring, it’s fun to drive, range is less but still sufficient for most people, getting in the back can be hard for some, but once in it’s decent. And focused on: the screen, the ease of use, the head up display position, the styling elements because it’s a mini, and the price. All of this without so much drama.
Can’t all reviews be like this one (and the others by Robert?)
Great to watch another brutally honest car review from Robert. Who really cares about the 0-60 time or the top speed nowadays. Tell us what it's like to drive and how it feels. Top job Kryten :-)
Your avatar looks familiar somehow… 😜
@@CoLD.SToRAGE No that really is a picture of my face 🙂
@@PHXRenegade In that case, I’m glad to have provided the music to your working life!
@@CoLD.SToRAGE And if you really did do the music to Lemmings, you are a genius, love those tracks :-)
The efficiency for wh/km seems to have a typo. Likely 140 and not 420 as written in the bottom left corner
I don't know what figures you achieved in the end, but in 2024 for a car that small anything under 4 miles/kWh is inexcusable. 5 or more is perfectly doable and it allows cars to have a smaller battery without compromising on range. Seat did it with the Mii which wasn't even a dedicated EV.
Be interesting to see how Nissan performs m/KwH with the promised solid state batteries due in 2028.
Lucid just hit 5mi/kWh, and that’s the most efficient EV on the planet. It’s not THAT easy to clear 5.
@@OptimumSlinkyplenty of EVs achieve over 5mi/kWh.
i can get 5.5 hypermiling my partners vw eup and that cars like 5+ yr old design (of the big battery) even my big estate with cruise at 3.8, and ive done 4.7 when hypermiling to avoid stopping to charge
@@OptimumSlinky theres a difference between rated efficiency and whats achieveable if you try. ive done 5.5 in an eup before... not safely sure but doable
I would disagree that 150 miles (240km) is enough range for long-range driving: You want the range for 70% of the battery (10-80%, as this is the range where charging is fast), to give you more than two hours on the highway (a comfortable interval to stop at). 70% of 240km is 168km, which is barely an hour and a half driving. So about 300-350km range is the sweetspot.
By "enough, " I think he simply means it's doable, not ideal or convenient. it's much better than the previous model
Mini Cooper SE 2024 has aa range of 400 km. This was the Mini Cooper E 2024
Would you buy a petrol mini for long journeys ? I drive the bmw i3 which is the same as the old mini. I don’t do long runs very often. Set your trip computer every day and see how many miles you actually do. Probably never more than 100 I bet, unless work is involved
And I think the 70% rule will be just about right on the SE.
I’d agree, not quite enough for me. Regular 150 mile trips 2.5 to 3 hours I can do without a stop. Arriving at destination with a couple of % on the battery would be too close. There is a bigger battery option but super expensive for a small car.
I do wonder if the EU legacy manufacturers are even trying tbh. 4 mpk is atrocious for a car that size. My ioniq 5 regularly exceeds 5.5 in mixed driving so something this small with 2/3rds the battery size should be over 6.
Really. I see under 4 miles to a KWh in my Ioniq 5 on normal town driving, and under 3 miles on a fast A road. It's still cheaper to run than an equivalent diesel though.
I really find it wild that I am still watching you Robert, I had been a long time viewer of the Junkyard Wars. SO insane youre still at it! Hope to see you for years to come!
In 2024 I'd expect more real world range than 150 miles, for that price. Car itself looks alright.
And how often will you drive for 150 miles continuously? The average UK daily commute is 20.8 miles...
The SE will go further if that’s really important.
Yes I agree. A lot of Mini owners don’t appear to want to make the jump to electric because the range is poor. These aren’t just city cars. I think this car should have the same range as an ID3.
@@richard7071yea surprised this wasn't mentioned. A friend has a new mini with a 50kwh battery i believe and 180-200mile range.
@@Brian-om2hhin the winter knock off another 30 to 50 miles. It's not unreasonable to travel 60 miles to somewhere with no destination charging then drive back later without wanting to stop again.
I knew what Robert was going to say about the suspension long before he said it; you could SEE how rough it was from the inside camera as he was driving along (roads I know), that arent that bad.
150 mile real world range is really barely adequate unless you only want to potter around town; come winter - unless it has heated seats/HVAC (not mentioned), the range is going to plunge.
it isnt a case of inadequate charging infrastructure, more a case of always needing to be conscious of where you need to stop next; and a short range also means those out-of-range trips are going to cost a lot more; home charging is so much cheaper than using even the cheapest Rapid charger.
I occasionally do a run to Heathrow (through the Cotswolds = ~120 miles); a 100% home charge costs me ~£3 for my remaining 26.1KWh of battery, then I need 3x 20-80% rapid charges along the way, that cost me ~£33+; if I had the newer version of my car, I could JUST make the trip on my initial charge - which would cost me ~£10.
Nice to see more Bobby reviews, I was half wondering if once he got in the back the rest of the review would be done as he was 'trapped'. Thanks for another great vid
They didn’t film it in order, he is still in there. You’ll see him hiding in other reviewers videos.
@@joemacleod-iredale2888 😂 the new game "spot Robert's head" 🤣
My very first can was a yellow mini. Bought new. A few months into ownership I drove from Birmingham to Bath on a cold day. I was puzzled by the frost gathering on the inside of the windscreen. On return, I took it back to the dealer and told them of my experience. They had a look at the car and told me that the heating ducts hadn't been connected. Thankfully, your sample wasn't made at Longbridge.
Real Men don’t need heating!🎉
Love the show (as usual!) but as a product designer it pains me to see this car. One of the most iconic, recognizable, and loved car design ever to be made was totally disconfigured here. The back looks horrendous. The front fascia lack personality - and to say this of a mini is to say a lot. I hope Frank Stephenson does a critique of this, I'd love to watch it. Also, Bobby, you should have him on the show!
I think the back is the best bit! Really cool and different to the competition!
@@1polly I'm with andiogocastro, the back does not look like a mini - more like a Fiat.
Thanks for saying it out loud! The previous version was much better looking. Even that nice round display seems a lit lost in that center console. Few regular meters or screens behind the wheel would make a big difference. Thank goodness there is the hud and you don't have to rely just to the center display.
if you think that about this..... you will absolutely love the new ford capri :D
Did Robert say, ‘Tinny’ the Robot?” Frunkin’ HIGHlarious!
Robert Llewellyn is the Graham Norton of cars and other vehicles. He is so much better then other presentators. It is always a joy to watch him.
Cant believe the range is still so bad 😂
140 mile range. As someone in the market for a smaller EV, 200 miles real range is what I’d want from a car. 140 is just a no go.
Yes because you do.... How many miles a day?.... 25...30?
They do a longer range one as well!
If you put in into the context of the average daily UK commute being 20.8 miles, and the average UK motorway journey being 70 to 80 miles, is it *really* so bad? Why pay for a car (or battery) that has 300 miles of range, if you only drive a 300 mile trip twice a year?
@@pachy444it's not about that, my car is not just a daily commuter, it's a weekend adventure vehicle too. I don't want to have 2 cars, I want one that does it all, and for me, that means 200 miles of real world range. As it happens, my Tesla exceeds that by over a hundred miles, but I will accept that's just a luxury, not a need.
The old version did about 130 which is way more that most people drive in a day.... I always wonder what daily mileage people who moan about EV range actually do.... truth is 10yrs ago lots of people bought EVs with a 80 mile maximum range and had no issues at all as a daily driver, seems to me people convince themselves they are doing intercontinental tours all the time when in reality they go to Aldi on a Saturday and 20 miles a day to work 😂
To some of us its not the day to day range,but the ability to get somewere in a hurry, or a sudden decision.
We drive a 2024 hyundai kona N line s EV and are currently 85 miles from home on holiday (used 25% range to get here) which is fine,
I also use a diesel berlingo van for work.
But even full up the kona shows 304 miles and my 82 year old mum lives 255 miles away in North Devon, so for me a range of 600 miles would ease my mind (as the berlingo will do on a tank of diesel) should the worse come to the worse and I don't have hours to charge.
I guess " my perfect " range might be higher than a lot of people's nd in time (12 years maybe) main stream ev's will have that range, but for the here and now ,for us it's a mix of diesel and electric.
This is very true. There's always a compromise. Smaller car, small batter, decent efficiency vs larger car, large battery worse efficiency. BMW have obviously worked out that this is a okay range for the target customer. For people who want more range they can get a countryman. It's also likely to be a city, urban car or a second car anyway, so most people would be fine with a 140 mile range. My wife has an i3 and that range is around 175 miles, but she never drives more than about 75 miles in a day, so it is ideal. For big trips I have an iX with 300-400 mile range, but I would much prefer the i3 for nipping about day to day.
Well @pachy444, so would you pay that ridiculous price for whatever that is suppose to be a Chinese attempt at a mini I think it is ,with an abysmal range for the price.
I think it's similar thinking as to why people are so entranced by SUVs, and big SUVs at that, namely that they see them as a vehicle for every occasion, when in reality a 5-door hatchback will do 99% of everything they actually need it for. Just without the 'high driving position'...
Agreed, Mr. Llewellyn. In this time period, the only cars that should be produced that have internal combustion are enthusiast manual transmission cars. The average person would be thrilled to have a car that runs on the price of a fraction of fuel, have little to no maintenance, won't stink up the garage. Now manufacturers need to step up and make it happen!
5:18 I guess the conversion from miles to Km is the other way 😛 -> 160 Wh/Km or 16 kWh/100Km as we prefer to use 😉
I’m glad I wasn’t the only one that noticed this…..
I was thinking 420 was a bit much…
I have to be honest i hated the circle infotainment with rectangle screen inside on the older minis, and i'm someone who actually likes buttons. Making the whole screen circle looks clean.
Tesla Model Y RWD base model in Germany atm: 39.000 €
New Mini Cooper: 35.000 €
Decent people don't give Elon Musk their money.
I'll second that strongly...
Robert clearly likes to drive local, it always makes me smile to see the Cotswold edge in the background. I drive around there quite often but have never caught him yet!
Since 3 weeks I have a "Cooper SE classic" in blue - the car is perfect. And the price on the paper was 44K Euros; but had to pay less then 37K Euros. And without VAT it was 31K - still expensive, but absolutely worth it. The real range lies between 300 and 400km
Perhaps they are still making petrol cars because they work!! When I look at whole life costs together with how most of our electricity is still produced I really struggle to see the argument for ev’s. Love the presentation all the same. 10 out of 10 for enthusiasm!
Nothing is more relaxing than a old style car review by Bobby.
I think the design is absolutely on point! It is now much cleaner, simplified, and it certainly looks as iconic as ever. I know the range is not the best and the price is maybe a bit to high…but I would definitely get this one instead of an MG4 or a e-208!
I’m a HUGE fan of instrument displays that are CLEAR and CONSISE. What I mean is that if I’m looking for the speed or the navi or temperature controls; they shouldn’t blend together.
If you are doing greater than 100km/hr, in traffic, you don’t have time to fiddle here and fiddle there. Make 3 displays rather than 1 display to help preserve the safety for the driver.
Rather a disappointment to remove a physically shielded driver cluster (showing speed, distance, warnings, other essentials). I’m not turning my head to look at a central display that the passenger can play with. That is a hazard.
(To be clear about heads up displays, you can do a windshield projection and have a decent daylight visibility while it creates no clutter. The little tinted glass where a proper clutter belongs is a failure honestly.)
I like the comment of not messing with the screen as concentrating to stay safe. Now drive on our roads and adjust the temperature and fan speed and fan direction on these ridiculous touch screens.
The Mini website says that the head up display (+ a few of the other features in the Mini tested here) are not standard but come as part of a £2000 Level 1 upgrade package!
Sorry Robert, but it looks like someone fibbed if they told you that you were driving the base model.
Agree, will take a MG4 any day instead, thanks Robert for covering this and the personal comparison
This new Mini is not for practicality but for peoples wanting their own Mini, this is the best one yet
I have an MG 4 and it's definitely still a great car. The infotainment system is a bit whiffy but the driving experience is excellent and it's excellent value too
Better, but still pretty poor miles/kWh per £ compared to the competition
This misses the point of a MINI. If you are just after m/kWh, an e-bike will go 60 miles from a 1/2 kWh battery and be orders of magnitudes better in m/kWh/£. When the parameters of the comparison aren't specified, the result can be whatever you want :) There really is no competition (as you refer to). When the Renault 5 comes out, maybe then - but the only comparison for fun I can think of is a Taycan. I believe the MINI stacks up quite nicely on price. Oh, I have driven almost every EV model available in Oz, so this isn't an empty statement. Now £ / smile (patented) is a different matter. For the price, no EV is more fun to drive. That is why people buy MINIs, not for their efficiency, space, comfort or range.
@@js-hl5hv fair comment, being fun to drive is good to have, if that's important to you. For me efficiency is more important for , you know, saving the planet etc. But overall I think it's really good that the new Mini has a practical range that will encourage people to get it and not just as a second car.
5:18 Somebody got the efficiency wrong 😅. If the efficiency is 261 Wh/mile, it should be 163 Wh/km (dividing 261 by 1.6, but somebody multiplied it instead 😅)
Or someone liked 420 better. 😏
42kwh/100km (thats how the world measures it) is the consumption of a van on the autobahn.
@@flossemdI think wh per km is the best metric. The differences feel as big as they are. 4.2 or 3.8 seem kinda similar but really aren’t.
@@MiesvanderLippe you pay kwh, your battery has kwh, you charge in kw. I don't need know what I use to go to ikea 5km away but I want to know how much I use per month or when I drive longer distances to a different city.
It shares its platform with the GWM Ora as GWM and BMW developed the platform together. I find it interesting that the GWM gets a bigger battery though and that the Mini has much less range. I can see some GWM bits in the interior as well and i'd bet that a fair bit of the mechanicals are GWM too. In essence, its a Chinese German British car!
When I first saw it I thought of the ora cat...
German and British only in history and ownership. It’s fully Chinese engineered and made.
Ora died on its arse as a brand. Kind of odd to see it as a reskinned Mini. Anyway, too expensive and not enough range.
never thought I’d see a display that looks like a dinner plate, but there you go
Thanks for the video. I think the Renault R5 Etech is more in line with the form/design of this mini.
And that one is A LOT cheaper. The plus for this mini is, it is a sporty 2-door EV, and that is about unique.
Explaining how a button works LOL. Great video. thank you
Resplendent in "Fully Charged Yellow". I'd be comparing it to something like the Hyundai Inster. I prefer the Inster.
Indeed..The Inster will be at least £10k cheaper than the mini be more practical, well built as all Hyundai's are and more comfy. Mini is an exercise in style over substance and later this year it will be up against the Renault 5 which is even more funky, cute and will no doubt be much cheaper
The best thing about that car for me is something Robert didn't mention. It's in colour!
(I loathe the fashion for monochrome dullness)
I know a taxi driver local to me with the MG4 LR who gets over 300 miles a charge even on motorway trips. On hot days, he has seen over 340 miles
I think it's cute, fun, and cheerful. Even the yellow color and I'm not usually a fan of yellow. Oh and that sound you can't drive without it being on that adds personality to the car
Great review Rob! I had the F56 Mini Electric, I loved it. You got to consider the Mini factor, about 100miles is about 90miles once you've really booted it! I loved my 'old' Mini Electric but with a fatal flaw of 90miles range, it really wasn't usable even for motorway commuting as you can't guarantee the destination would have charging and public charging is so costly anyway. I suspect with the newest mini ev, the range of approx 150miles would drop to around 130miles once you had abit of fun in it! Still not a usable range in my opinion, I think 200miles is an optimum range in the UK to get from A-B and back again without getting stung by public charging, which in some cases is more expensive than fuel... I think it should really be used to top up. I found myself regularly charging near empty at public chargers. I've gone back to petrol. But in the hope that public leccy will get less expensive and when EV's come down in price with an effective range of around 200miles :)
It's 50% more expensive than petrol, the range is rubbish, charging speed is catastrophic, and the suspension is non existent. Truly lovely...
And the whole car is an excuse to stealth move Mini production out of the UK.
Thanks Robert, great review! Not to be negative, but I've been a bit more critical of the latest MINI refresh. I want a small electric car for the limited city driving I do, so range it's my issue. But as a MINI purist, the exterior design has been downhill for ages. (Not to mention this model is still larger than the first 2 iterations). I'm not a fan of either the front end (it's looking like a lexus) and especially the backend (which no longer looks like a MINI). And the back turn lights point in the wrong direction again! The price is odd; the electric models are apparently made in China (so maybe the higher price is from tariffs). Sadly the MINI is billed as a "premium" car; not driving an oversized SUV shouldn't be premium.
I think you hit the nail on the head - it should be cheaper than the petrol version, not massively more expensive. Until this happens across the board mainstream adoption will be stunted. Still, I bet we'll be seeing a lot of these around London and the Cotswolds!
I firmly believe it there's a 15% markup on the petrol version then there's a 80-100% on the electric one. I remember journalists saying EVs will be cheaper due to lower cost of parts AND fewer parts AND cheap charging, yet we see luxury prices for 4 seaters and ranges that the Chinese had in 2010. I can't wait for the oncoming storm to wash out all this crap so freedom of movement won't be a luxury
Those rear lights are ridiculous - I realise they’re supposed to be half a Union Jack, but they look like arrows pointing the wrong way. Indicate left, arrow points right.
They look like they belong on a Kia
@@cybergornstartrooper2157agree they are quite a jarring design....I was thinking they are not too different from the Ssangyong Tivoli.
I thought it was a new Nissan Micra when I saw the video thumbnail.
I knew what the noise would be before you played it - the Jetsons
Wasn't the Jetsons noise referred to as a "wibble"?
Happy to see more bespoke EV platforms being designed. And I really love the circular screen, very cool. But Bobby is right, the price needs to come down. And yes, why the heck are some dimwits still making fossil cars in 2024??
@alexandersaksvoll5373 there is still a big market for ice vehicles that’s why it is all about money always has been and always will dimwit.
Nice to see you back behind the wheel doing reviews again Robert. Hope to see you do more in future.
That big round screen at the front.... I'm hoping the electronics industry magazines/sites have articles and interviews with the EEs who worked on that. It looks challenging in terms of manufacturing.
Took a test drive in both the new Minis and I was surprised how harsh the suspension was. Even around town you felt every lump and bump in the road. Our Mazda MX5 feels like a magic carpet ride by comparison.
Like a Renault 5, but bulkier, less range, more expensive, less charisma and an ugly gum shield in its gob… No thanks
Brand loyalty and desire for an EV will only get you so far, this Mini is still too expensive and range limited, so it would be the MG for me.
with it being a mini the price was always going to be high, compared to other brands. I think the fact the car makes a sound as you drive is really good. I think these should be mandatory for the safety of pedestrians and other road users.
Up-thumbed at 3:16 just for that interesting unusual sound!
I currently have a model 3. I’d love to have sth more compact for the city. I’ll consider this in a few years. I really like this car :)
Yay to reviews of base models!
@7:02. OMG As an owner of a R56 Cooper S and 60 years old, I was not prepared for what was to take place. I apologize as I laughed myself silly watching Rob attempt to place himself in the rear seat. I have no doubt the cameraman (After hearing those grunts and sounds). dialed up roadside extraction services to 'rescue' Rob. 🙏 In 2007 getting in the rear of my 6-speed MINI Cooper S was not a problem however, doing the same in 2024 is not an option. Excellent review.
😂
150miles, in ideal conditions. Unfortunately that is not sufficient here in Canada as real world would be closer to 100miles during our 6 month winter season.
Finally! A car that they've properly designed the radar sensor (black box thing) for. So many cars have them plonked on, but the Mini has it neatly in the centre.
About the range - this is the base model, the SE model claims 250 miles WLTP to probably about 200 miles in the real world. But obviously is more expensive (around £40k with the higher trim).
I've already ordered mine :D
Not the cheapest car, I could have got better value for money in terms of range/cost but the Mini was just so much better to drive than the MG4, e-208 or Zoe.
I’ve always liked the mini , tip on getting in the back , as well as tippin the front seat forward it also moves forwards by using a small lever underneath, making it easy to get in 😂😂😂👍👍
Nice to see Robert back on reviews!
I love how everyone seems to have learned from the Honda E. I just wish that car was getting a second gen.
his reviews are always wayyyy too positive
Hard ride, too expensive. What else?
Thumbs up Robert. You’re the soul of FC.
Great review Robert. Totally agree, Mini could have been more ambitious with the range. Looks fun but will be interesting to see how it compares to the Renault 5.
Having owned an MG4 for 8 months, and putting 40k on the clock. I fully agree it has draw backs, but it's still a great car. 😊
I think it's great that BMW are making cars with small batteries. In the real world, the vast majority of small car drivers simply don't drive very far on a regular basis. What ACTUALLY matters when you've lived with an electric car for a bit is actually how fast and reliably it fast charges for those occasional long trips! I've driven a BMW i3 for 10 years, and its absolute fine for non regular longer trips, and the rest of the time, it's hilariously fun to drive (185 bhp, 1250kg, carbon tub, rwd) The 95kW charging rate for the Cooper SE equates to adding nearly 400 miles in an hour, so in the real world, a huge proportion of trips are not going to be much of an inconvinence!
Yes that is fine but the price is ridiculous for what it is.
Just too bad that Mini is not so mini anymore, but still looks good and upgrade from previous EV version is huge,
Great video 😊❤❤
One of your Personal Best Reports!
Took 1 out for a drive, its a nice car but I told the sales guy it's just too expensive especially with the C3, renault 5, Panda and the Inster coming soon.
It's difficult to get passed just how much the suspension creates a vibrato in Robert's voice.
I volunteered at the 2012 paralympic games road cycling events (and Olympic games) controlling the race vehicles, supplied by BMW. They had an electric mini they were testing out but it kept breaking down. The whole of the back seat was filled with batteries so it was definitely a prototype! I remember thinking how cool it would be to drive an EV. Even though it was a prototype it still accelerated very quickly.
A great down to earth review, but this mini needs the indicators below the lights, as It just looks too plain and un mini like. The rear lights too don't look right (the old model ones looked better). Also never in mini history have the rear lights been triangles?
Indeed. They lost the recognizable rear end. It's no longer Mini.
Might try and get one of these used in the future. Love the style and size. Perfect for around town.
A MINI with triangles - who has a new lover at the design division_ Everything it should not be! The sound rocks, rear lights such on all levels - a vibe of a Dacia
Always love cheerful mini style and round screen… It’s so nice!! But I don’t think 35k starting price is justifiable. It should start from 20k, maybe 25k.
Remember it’s a cooper though..
If you need a break after three hours driving you need to hand in your licence. It’s also the fact you need somewhere guarenteed to charge it up when you get to your destination 75 miles away before you come home. Probably 60 miles because nobody drives around with less than a 10 miles range…
Great review Robert , good to see you in the driving seat again 😊
They're making petrol/diesel cars because they're £10,000 cheaper and not everyone has the ability to charge an EV at home and the charging infrastructure is a few years off being fit for purpose.
An RAC study concluded that over 60% of the UK's homes had either a driveway or a dedicated parking area.
EVs are not at all more expensive, this is just price gouging. The petrol equivalent is £23,150 compared to £30,000 for the slightly more powerful EV. Then you have to factor in the savings in running costs and maintenance over time. However, I agree that this Mini EV price is Crazy - A MG4 EV can be bought for around the same price as the Petrol Mini (which seems to be only available as an automatic)
Right what about the other 40% or do they not matter. Is it I,m alright mentality
The round screen in the classic mini was a speedometer, the reason was because BMC needed to save money by not having to make a left and right hand drive dashboard.
Despite this, the brilliant owners of the company were such geniuses that they lost money on every car they sold because they had not managed to grasp the concept of math and accounting.
Still repeating the tired old stories Ford put about to try and discredit the Mini when they couldn't compete with it. PS It's 'maths'.
@@simonmatthews7512 I learned to drive in the Classic Mini, learned automotive repair and maintenance and knew it enough that when my High School Auto repair teacher had us draw a diagram of a car's ignition and starter circuit, I drew the Mini's ignition and starter circuit instead of the one in our instruction books. So no, what I said about why the classic mini had a center mounted speedometer is pretty well known
can't remember last time I've been this excited about the mini cooper, maybe the first time top gear reviewed one. however, that excitement crushed down as I realized price will likely cost as much as larger EVs from other brands.
Think I prefer the old look and interior. Have had a Mini E for three years and love it. Luckily enough to combine with other vehicles which can handle long distance so range not an issue. Definitely car of choice for local travel.
I agree with a lot of the other comments, this is a good review by Robert.
I did 165 miles today, no time to stop and charge, glad my EV has 250 mile range, 150 isn’t enough if you’re outside a city
I'm surprised how good the round display looks. Very cool indeed!
Such a nice colour for a Mini. Makes me sad seeing so many of these being bought in dull colours
I don't find the MG LKA annoying at all, I have he sensitivity set to min and keep within the lane markings. It's not active below 35 mph. Just use your indicators and keep in the lane.
Mini should have 300 REAL miles of range and cost $25,000, PLEASE ! Sales would be off the charts
First thoughts - It looks like a Suzuki Swift. That sound it makes is pretty cool 😁😁 2 doors with a rear seat - Forget it 😔
We will now be expecting Kryten or the skutters to make that noise in the New Series of Red Dwarf that hasn't been announced yet. 😂
140 miles is 2 hours on the motorway, not 3
140 miles is 7 hours on the M25❤
avg motorway speed in the UK is just under 50mph iirc (yes, the *limit* is 70mph - but you're not going to achieve that for long, due to congestion, roadworks, and so on).
Where ?
maybe at 2am
@@rtfazeberdee3519 maybe
It's good to see Robert doing car reviews again, but I'm afraid it's a BIG miss for me and I think we'll be keeping our original 2020 Mini Electric rather than get the new one 🙁
- the bodywork no longer really looks like a mini (that rear end?! 😮) and has horrible creases in it so that it looks like it's had a prang at sometime, plus the handles will be a haven for spiders! 😆
- the interior looks really cheap, especially the buttons, and not worth the 30 grand price tag (an increase of £6k on ours?!)
- yes the screen is nice but the changing of modes is sooo slow (5secs) & impractical and a backwards step from the 2020 model which is an instant change.
I do agree wirh Robert that the range is more than adequate (we've had 120miles & 15% battery left before now) and a smaller battery just means quicker charging stops 😃
With the likes of the Renault 5, Fiat Grande Panda & Hyundai Inster (to name but a few) all coming out soon, cheaper and going further on a charge, I think Mini will struggle to sell these... 😬
"I cann't do 3 hours on a motorway, I need to have a wee"
The joys of getting older! But if you cannot do 150 miles on a motorway in a lot less than 3 hours (roadworks permitting!) then I suggest Bobby you are no longer particularly safe on motorways.
I suspect the range is actually closer to 190 miles in urban environments (under 4m/kw) but 150 miles on motorway at normal motorway speeds sounds about right. But the Mini is not intended as a motorway cruiser, merely a city car so for that the range is fine.
As the video suggests, the new Mini is for Mini fans only. It is completely outclassed by the MG4 and BYD Dolphin. If it was priced at c. £23-24,000 then it would be viable option
I usually admire the way Robert chooses his wardrobe but definitely not this time ))
£30k is just too much. Imagine if someone did a Fiat 500, little pocket rocket, £10k electric car. It would sell like hot cakes.
I see what you’re saying, but the cheapest car on sale today is almost £14k. I just don’t think it’s possible to make a £10k car anymore with the extra safety regulations
@@CharlieGB03 yeah, it’s a fair point. The lowest priced Fiat 500 is now almost £17k… which is nuts
I'm glad this Honda E made you laugh and giggle. I suppose Rowan Atkinson might have to reinvent Mr. Bean as a Honda E driving giggling Kryten. Maybe change the color and call the Honda E his Red Dwarf. Kinda like the Green Hornet, but nerdy and relatable.
Let's be fair, none of us can afford these "spaceship"-budget EVs.