Why does Imane Khelif not FIRST sue the International Boxing Association (IBA) for saying that the sex test results confirmed that Imane Khelif was male and demand that they publicize the result if they disputed the results?
@pemberton6974 how do you know it doesn't exist? What we do know is that both boxers had an opportunity to appeal their ban by the IBA to the Court of Arbitration for Sports, neither chose to do so. We also know that the only requirement for the ioc's own boxing regulator is female stamped in a passport. It's easy to put this to rest by taking a test. That as far as I'm concerned speaks volumes.
@@minkleymcmoo5248 Really? It’s been reported by several different sources that Khalif is an XY person, and yet the MSM still reports that he is being abused and harassed. Joe Biden is another example of the media placating and encouraging the lies going on to keep his dementia from becoming public. You can argue that “news reporters” are just reading whats on the teleprompter, but they are supposed to be journalists with a code of ethics. So far in both these instances there is no ethics to be seen anywhere from any of them.
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@@minkleymcmoo5248 Khelif was banned from the world championships last year because she FAILED the genetic test and teh hormone test. That's all the evidence the IBA needed.
The extreme flippancy of the IOC on this issue is appalling. They’ve banned certain swimsuits and disqualify proper for being 500g over weight, but they allow a Y chromosome person with male-level testosterone to box women. This is unbelievably dangerous, and will eventually completely destroy women’s sports if the policies aren’t changed.
100g overweight. The wrestler from India was disqualified for being 100g overweight, which is the equivalent of sis slices of a tangerine. Because weight classes are sacrosanct, sex categories not so much according to the IC.
Especially when you understand that male testosterone levels fall between 265-923 ng/dl, while females fall between 15-70. For reference, a male taking steroids is usually 1000-2000 ng/dl. That is, if steroids are cheating because they give you an unfair advantage as a performance enhancing drug, then xy chromosomes boxing women is literally somewhere between 2 and 30 x the advantage of taking steroids.
There are so many women only scholarships outside sports , and most orgs ban trans athletes now . What Imane has is dsd. Which is a super rare disorder. They hv enough opportunities So stop acting like u care just to spite .
I had a bad feeling to the Olympics and for that I avoided it all costs completely and grateful to myself for doing so. I refuse to watch all TV and have done for 2 years plus and only seek true info from genuine people who believe that facts and truth matters.
He just explained in previous videos that nowhere not even the US, there is an absolute protection for 'free speech'. Like, inciting imminent lawless action for instance. But hey, keep repeating what you been told, I'm sure it makes you feel better.
@@MarvinWestmaasWell, Elon lives in the US and what Elon said DOES FALL UNDER FREEDOM OF SPEECH, mate! The UK, on the other hand, doesn’t grant citizens the protection of the US CONSTITUTION. You come off as a know it all who knows enough to be laughable! Filing a lawsuit is a slippery slope because the emperor may indeed be wearing no clothes! Just because his passport may say he is female, doesn’t mean he is a biological female! 🤣😂🤣😂Yes, I SAID HE!!
I'm quite confident this travesty of a criminal case (ffs !) will kick Yazooof...in the balls. Public opinion is...well, public and can be a harsh mistress. He gotta man up and take it
@Ray_of_Light62 _I stopped watching the Olympics..._ I stopped watching the Olympics in 1972 when the IOC condoned the murder of the Israeli athletes by terrorists.
I've never watched.. in fact I've never watched any sports.. because I don't care about, nor have any interest in them. Well, I used to be into archery, until all the rules began to allow for sighting, high tech stuff. Archery competitions should be only basic bows, no high tech crap
I can't stop laughing at all the crybaby 'whaa whaa I get told they made fun of something and I can't think on my own so I follow their crying whaa whaaa' Seriously, no one cares about your hurt feelings.
They are entirely incapable of self-reflection. This Algerian male boxer probably has no idea how bad he looks to 99.9% of the world's population who have not been indoctrinated into the cult of gender ideology.
Well, the facts aren't being allowed to speak at all. They're being hidden with a "we did a test but we won't say which one or the actual results but trust us we totally did it" and it's a single Russian person who decided to do it and they ignored normal policies for this. This also happened after a undefeated Russian was beaten by this boxer so that Russian is still undefeated.
I would think both Musk and Rowling are saying "Bring it on!" Maybe they'll bring up a truly puzzling mystery ; why has NO woman who has transitioned to a man ever entered a male sports competition-they were noticibly absent in the mens events at Paris, gave Wimbledon a miss,aren't in any football or rugby teams v other male teams....
@@raycorrigan3297maybe Imane is a poor fighter, but punching someone repeatedly in the face isn’t good boxing, and who are these people ? Not transgender but possibly intersex and male dominant like the African runner who they banned.
Bird Brain, this is how it works. If you are accused of defaming someone, your only defense is to prove to the judge that what you said about that person is true! Good luck to Musk, Rowling and the many racist haters such as you, who claim that Khelif is transgender or that she is a man pretending to be a woman is real and true! You, the haters and the losers, prepare to be slammed by the French justice system, where you will be exposed for the racist haters that you are!
I'm a six foot two 210 pound male that feels discriminated because I am not allowed to compete in the UFC featherweight division. My height and weight are natural, I was born this way. Why am I not allowed to pound 60kg men into the floor? I'm suing Dana White!!!
@@NotYourBusiness-bp2qn yep…The obvious has become a “hate campaign”. Idiocy rules the day. Whatever higher power there is, he/she/they, must be dying laughing…
There are weight classes in womens and mens boxing so she wasnt allowed to pound featherweights either. Also when she was in the 2020 olympics and got beaten no one gave a toss
@@cmctavish1970 You don't say? And why is that? Also why are there female and male divisions in almost every sport? Once you've figured that out and once you realize testicles being internal or external gives the same advantage when it comes to competitive sports you can write your reply.
Agreed. The point about categories within sport is to provide a level playing field. If the boxing authorities used a chromosome test to exclude the boxers from competing in women's categories, that isn't discrimination, it is just the way all sport works. Even if the IOC is trying to avoid discrimination, there are better ways to determine gender than the passport!
These are literally the best and most succinct 2 comments I have read. It's a clown show, with no one having jurisdiction. Have a second popcorn popper on standby.
You don't think it has anything to do with them having over 200m followers on X between them? Far more people read their posts than read YOUR posts, for example. They are far more likely to create a domino effect of cyberbullying than you.
Trouble is with this case. I believe that if it does go to court it could be more harmful to them than anybody. Because if it's proved that the XY chromosomes exist, their medals should get stripped. I think I can see a massive backfire coming
If the case relates to 'cyber bullying' then the complainant's gender has absolutely nothing to do with it. You can bully somebody over something that's true (if indeed what they've said is true - I don't use that cesspit of a platform, so I have no idea) quite easily.
There's a lot of talk about intersex, which muddies the waters with no evidence whatsoever that it even applies to this case. A discussion of intersex is a valid topic in general. Maybe those people are stronger than women, but weaker than men and deserve their own category (may be too small of a group). If we are going to have that discussion I think we need to talk about Atrazine and the elitist ruling class' depopulation agenda.
Except she was born female! How much convincing do you need? Her father brought out her birth certificate, in a country where being gay is a crime, and you still hod to your delusions. Also, defamation isn't "being mean", claiming you are a steroid-adled cheater olympian when you aren't is defamation
I watched a swimming event (not the Olympics) where all the women withdrew moments before their race rather than swim with a male. It made the event irrelevant.
Women testosterone: 30 - 70 ng/dL For men: 300 - 1.000 ng/dL. It's a clear gap, and if a woman has more, it could be a dangerous tumor. If a woman has male levels, it's unfair, regardless of chromosomes, but high testosterone plus xy chromosomes imo should be enough, to not let a person compete against women...
Yup. Sounds like many serious competitive sports use such physiological markers for qualification. Meanwhile the Olympics’ is about as sophisticated as a beer league. Derek from More Plates More Dates has many hours of content analyzing how other sporting events manage these tests. In comparison the Olympics is a joke.
Her testosterone levels are normal for a woman boxer - she was tested for testosterone levels. Why do you lot of pond scum persist in persecuting people with your false allegations just to make yourselves happy that your perceptions of the world are true?
Well if Imane has over 70ng/DL with the urine test she HAS to take now with winning a gold she will get disqualified in the next week. If she doesn't get DQ'd then we know she's good and in the ranges.
@@nijjijjion204 It doesn't matter if he can manage to bring down his testosterone levels, he still has XY chromosomes and testis, and went through male, not female, puberty. He should compete against other males, not females.
This boxer was banned by the WBBC at the world championships last year ! The problem lies with the IOPC who wen't woke and discarded the WBC advice . He/ she will be lucky to win a case against Musk or Rowling.
Isnt it a funny coincidence (NOT) that BOTH boxers that were banned by the World boxing association won golds? The notion that a passport is in any way relevant is absurd as I stated a fortnight ago.
Although I get what you are saying, they have been around for years and were pretty middle of the card until world championship. Also as a general rule if IBA want to be taken seriously again you should publish the results, the fact they haven't is a bit suspect. Part of the reason they are banned from Olympics is lack of transparency and corruption. Maybe they do have XY chromosomes but IOC shouldn't just be taken their word for it, and if the information they were given doesn't meet their standards then you don't accept it. IOC will be doing testosterone tests, if they fail that then they will be disqualified. But people are jumping to conclusions without even knowing what test they failed.
@@abergreg Which we have no idea if the IBA did that seeing as they haven't even said what test they failed except they failed a test. I am happy to be shown to be wrong, but I don't just accept what someone tells me without proof.
what including the ones that beat her? is that how it goes now? if someone loses no one cares but if they win and they aren't white we want to find a reason to stop them
1. The official statement of the IBA they released during the Olympics never mentions 'XY' just that a 'specific test' was done. Neither did they share this test result. 2. The IBA only decided to do this test after their beloved *ORC* boxer lost her undefeated status against Imane. 3. The fact Imane did not see an appeal through does in no way give merit to the statement of the IBA, considering Imane and many others are already leaving the *ORC* mob run and kremlin tied IBA for World Boxing. 4. These kremlin ties are certainly part of why the IBA on purpose wanted to cause civil unrest and feed tension with far right 'viewpoints', not only does this lower our trust in government it also makes governments less stable and more influential by kremlin allies. 5. The real issue is here is communication from the IOC. They try to hide behind stating they the IOC only checks gender through official documentation when they have much better avenues of approach for instance referencing Caster Semenya. This female sprinter, produced excessive amounts of male hormones. Semenya run into doping accusations, this is how they found out her condition. The IOC would allow her to compete, if she took testosterone blockers. This on the basis that she would have an unfair advantage otherwise. She didn't want to comply, and appealed the IOC's ruling at the CAS. CAS decided the IOC was in their rights. Not only does this show the IOC tests on aspects giving a not allowed advantage. Like having a to high testosterone level. Since we don't hear her being accused of this, never in her 8 years of boxing, the IOC should have pointed out that Imane didn't have any performance enhancing markers in their own testing, instead of making a statement which makes it look like IOC 'only looks at a passport'.
well perhaps he isn't getting the sponsorship so many Olympiads receive and needs to make the money in other ways, like a court case for damages? Its just seems so very sad.
More like imagine someone storming in to bank, pointing at a random person there and yelling “ They are robbing the bank!”. And then crying when eventually police come and see that there indeed not one thing got stolen.
Why do you dislike someone you do not even know? If I understood your message correctly, you channel your feelings based on "Hear Say" or prejudice, only you know the answer?
@@mabrouk642 Boxing is pairing people who have equal abilities, you do not put a fly weight in with a a heavy weight. The way this person won is not normal and has some kind of advantage which makes for dislike.
This is nothing to do with gender, it's purely to do with sex characteristics and sporting eligibility. I really hope she wins her case because of the vile and ignorant rhetoric from these two individuals. I would also criticise BB for suggesting intersex people are flawed and defective. They are not.
@@mabrouk642 Khelif has failed a "Gender Test" by one particular Boxing Organisation. Allegedly because she had increased levels of testosterone, or at least testosterone levels higher than you'd expect to find in a biological, XX chromosome woman. Higher levels of testosterone will give someone greater muscle mass, higher bone density, a larger heart, larger hands, larger lungs, and fast twitch muscle action amongst other things. All of these are beneficial in a close contact sport like boxing, and would undoubtedly give an unfair advantage over female competitors. If Khelif is aware of this yet still chose to fight women then I'd say she is indeed a rather unlikeable person. All that would be needed to settle this entire debate would be for her to have a simple testosterone test, which she would then make public.
@@lindsaybelderson7735 You're right about confusion over "Trans" and "Intersex", however if she has raised testosterone levels to the range expected in an XY male then she should NOT compete against XX women.
The complete lack of a scientific approach to the issue of segregation of male and female competitors in sport astounds me. To base these decisions on paperwork like birth certificates and passports risks putting males and females against each other in physical competition, which is neither ethical, nor, in many instances, safe.
@@louisavondart9178 The Italian boxer stopped the fight at 46 seconds because she said she had never been hit like that before. That is because Imane has the upper body strength of a man.
Bollox, you all set a stupid criteria as to what makes a woman a woman and said it was obvious. She fits that definition completely. If there are only 2 genders, she is a woman by every metric. Reality bites.
Only if they belong to the protected class. You can still call out white hetero men for cheating. Not to worry. That's why Russia is out of the olympics, but China is in.
I'm not taking a side but would like to point out it was never cheating though. Think about it Imane has competed and lost to women over the years. The IBA (who have their issues) only did this gender test last year after the event which raises the question why weren't they prevented from competing in the first place instead of testing and stripping Imane and Lin of their gold and bronze medals after the fact. Side note: The IBA was suspended in 2019 due to corruption, match-fixing and financial scandals.
The elitist ruling class are working on it, one set of rules for them and one set for the other 8 billion of us!! Shiva4President (add appropriate website suffix to learn more).
Good post here. You have made a really good point about taking on two billionaires at once! Just for the record I love JK Rowling and I am growing to love Elon Musk.
If Imane went through male puberty? Men have more muscle mass, especially in the upper body. It gives men 157% more strength ( I read that on google). If the Olympics would allow transwomen to participate, I would ask where are the transmen participants ( hypothetically).
I am old enough to remember the cycle of jokes every four years about the East German female athletes. One was how they could have gotten rich endorsing mens razors.
Regardless of the current 'rules' regarding this matter. If a biological woman took testosterone injections throughout her entire teen years then stopped a year before attempting to compete in a sporting event she would be banned, probably for life for doping. Yet a biological male who has the testosterone naturally throughout their life can take 'blockers' for a few months and is then allowed to compete against biological women. The rules no longer make any sense when considered logically and this is the position of people like Rowling and Musk.
The problem is, the "gender testing" that they currently have, as far as I am aware, merely checks Testosterone levels... That is hardly an accurate indicator of gender, as evidenced by Imane who has a DSD disorder, which affects how people develop growing up (be it hormones, reproductive organs and even genitals). She is still a WOMAN. She was never born as a man and she never transitioned into being a woman because she already was one! She has a high Testosterone count because of this disorder, and is very butch and masculine as a result. She even looks boyish as a small child. You realise this is the same argument the radical trans activists spout, right? They say a Trans woman should be able to compete against biological women "if their Testosterone levels are low enough" - but we ALL know that sex/gender is so much more than hormones, for example, lung capacity and bone density. THAT is why it's unfair for a Trans woman to compete against biological women, regardless of Testosterone levels. So it's kind of hilarious that people are saying "SHE'S NOT A WOMAN BECAUSE SHE FAILED THE GENDER TEST" - Which literally just means she has high Testosterone levels, nothing else.
"Hate speech in the United States cannot be directly regulated by the government due to the fundamental right to freedom of speech protected by the Constitution. While "hate speech" is not a legal term in the United States, the U.S. Supreme Court has repeatedly ruled that most of what would qualify as hate speech in other western countries is legally protected free speech under the First Amendment. Supreme Court case, Matal v. Tam (2017)"
@@pimpernelsmith3798 That is a ridiculous premise, by your logic so should any male boxer be in prison for "assaulting" any other boxer in the male division that is trans or presenting male and has XX chromesones. But no one knows or cares about that because there is no gender testing in the male division. And no one cared about this 4 years ago when she was losing matches to other female boxers. Beyond that the entire sport itself is consented/permitted assault. It's what all participants sign up for.
@@susanseifert4472 Deal with reality, the female boxer should have grounds to sue as should all female sports participants encountering men hijacking their sports. That would include all the officials bodies that allow this travesty. How's that for logic WOKE lady?
"Everyone has the right to compete without discrimination" ... I'd say that the female boxers, who have trained for their entire adult lives feel pretty discriminated against.
So, I wonder why none of the other female boxers are filing suits against Imane? including the Italian boxer who walked off and later apologised.... Seems to me that if the other female boxers recognise her as a woman, then you don't have much of a leg to stand on....
@@infinitydreamzz Nope, "roll up your sleeve" -> take blood, DNA test, SEX revealed. X and Y are the sex-DEFINING chromosomes (nudgenudgewinkwink, spot the clue).
Athletes refuse to tell the truth or submit to new testing to clear controversy. IBA's assertions are discredited. IOC collides in cover up. The female boxing athletes should sue the IOC.
The way I look t it is ' The PassPort is nothing more than a Pass to exit and enter a Port' I In the realm of determining the actual gender and genetics on an individual is about as useful as a POST OFFICE Postcode. It would be akin to telling POLICE who wish ti identify som'one' and that some'one' telling them : { "" I looked in the mirror and it is definitely me "" - Now - "" You look in the mirror and tell me if it is definitely you "" }
The real issue is here is communication from the IOC. They try to hide behind stating they the IOC only checks gender through official documentation when they have much better avenues of approach for instance referencing Caster Semenya. This female sprinter produces excessive amounts of male hormones because of having internal male tests. Semenya run into doping accusations, this is how they found out her condition. The IOC would allow her to compete, if she took testosterone blockers. This on the basis that she would have an unfair advantage otherwise. She didn't want to comply, and appealed the IOC's ruling at the CAS. CAS decided the IOC was in their rights. Not only does this show the IOC tests on aspects giving a not allowed advantage. Like having a to high testosterone level. Since we don't hear her being accused of this, never in her 8 years of boxing, the IOC should have pointed out that Imane didn't have any performance enhancing markers in their own testing, instead of making a statement which makes it look like IOC 'only looks at a passport'.
Kehlif needs to return HIS women’s gold medal. The IOC should be demanding this. Include a trans or intersex category in boxing but do not allow XY to compete in WOMEN’s category.
LMAO we already have it. You did not look up her country of origin, did you? They don't recognize trans and her passport has to match gender as identified the doctor at birth.
@@chimpana Simple solution: DNA evidence has to be present for Olympic events. Not the gender (male/female) stated on the person's passport. Our species has only 2 genders/2 sexes XX = Female XY = Male One is born either XX or XY No matter how many hormones taken or how many body bits are added or subtracted; one is either XX or XY.[1] _____________________ 1.) Even people afflicted with hermaphroditism are either "XX" or "XY". Hermaphroditism either adds/subtracts (sometimes both) physical sexual characteristics. He mentioned the condition "Swyer syndrome"[2] In this day and age, the situation can be remedied by surgery after the DNA (xx/xy) of the individual is determined If trans people compete, they have to have their own categories = XX competing as men XY competing as women. I do not think that there will be much of a demand by the public to watch either: XX competing as men XY competing as women. Perhaps they should have their own Olympics; like the "Olympics" for people with mental and physical disabilities have ("Special Olympics" it used to be called) 2.) *Swyer syndrome* aka: "XY gonadal dysgenesis" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XY_gonadal_dysgenesis
@@ArjayMartin a ultrasound scan would also very quickly prove the matter one way or another wouldn’t it - no female reproductive organs (ovaries, fallopian tubes, uterus, cervix, vagina, inner and outer labia for example , or imaging showing all the usual male internal reproductive organs plus outer genitalia that didn’t develop as typical, with no or micro penis and internal testes.
if our politicians don't know how to define a woman, why do you think our Judges can? The judges are supposed to follow the laws set by those same politicians who cant define a woman. It is not safe to have judges adjudicating on public debate. See what happened with the protests.
This is ridiculous. I think JK should counter sue for her rights. She is being persecuted for her beliefs. her rights to be straight , her freedom to express herself.
not the way the 'equality of outcome' crowd see things. Perhaps we should ask the passengers on Boeing airliners about 'equality of outcome', assuming they survive the experience
A corporation complying with diversity inclusion and equallity standards benefits them in debates with councils & regulators. What you say is what sounds correct to you but is not what is asked from your government the companies to follow. Simple example of your dei is up you can be forgiven for other things t he at you are not that good and in the end for companies the end result is money. If you been scored up on abuse but scored up on dei you will be easier and you will make more money and have better voice in your local council than if you scored down on dei and score down on abuse. And will be heard less from local councils so more problems in the second situation than in the first. Unfortunately you can not blame the company. The only person you can blame is yourself because you allowed it to happen the last ten years. You allowed with your vote and your lack of involvement to politics. When you decided to be involved was too late (if you decided)
They are illegal in the EU and anyone who doesn't get a job despite being the best candidate has the right to sue. What the ratios are however is a useful tool to point out possible cases of discrimination. If a workplace has no female, black, gay, religious minority, senior or whatever else type of employee despite there being a reasonable supply of such candidates it absolutely should be grounds for an investigation into their hiring practices.
The IOC does not test for sex and or testosterone. The IOC lets a sports governing body set their own rules regarding testing for sex and or testosterone and eligibility. The IOC disqualifies the IBA as the governing body for boxing. Boxing in the Olympics defaults to the IOC rules. Not how they are raised, not what the birth certificate says, not what a passport says, not about feelings, not about the IOC's inclusive mental gymnastics, not personally identifying as, not magical thinking... Strange how the disorders that confer the advantages of male puberty to an athlete are always treated with more deference than the safety and fairplay to unambiguous women athletes. It is NOT womens responsibility to make nice, share, empathize, and accommodate the Y chomazone to the detriment of their own safety, medals, scholarships, sponsorships, money, professional development, and job opportunities. *DSD conditions are both heartbreaking and extremely difficult to diagnose and classify.* In the future, unambiguous Females and unambiguous Males carry on as usual. Perhaps, athletes with complicated disorders should be in the Paralympic Games or have TransFemale & DSD and TransMale & DSD categories, to be sorted out separately *The IOC must take responsibility and have the suitable testing and categories for athletes to compete, instead if passing the responsibility off to others while women get hurt.*
The IOC knows. It's intentional. There's a reason as of right now the 2028 Olympics is not including boxing. First time in a century. They are afraid someone could get seriously hurt and it would hurt their agenda. Unless something changes in the next 4 years other sports they will continue to use passports.
In some cases, yes. Thing is, overall it's not. It's mainly groups (Mainly women, strangely.) of people thinking they're doing the moral act, when all they're doing is creating unfair playing field. There are also plenty of trans peeps etc out there, that are totally against such people competing against women.
So long as it's "unjust" etc, they pull out all the stops on this rubbish and it's why they keep getting away with it. People need to metaphorically man up and say, no and if you keep this up, we'll put you in prison for wasting the courts etc time.
Ultimately a person with xy chromosomes and elevated testosterone won a gold medal by repeatedly punching women in the face. Unless the women also had elevated testosterone then it was an unfair fight. But yet “they” are suing because ? They think the fight was equal??
Is it fair tall people win in the high jump? Surely that is unfair? What if a person 5 foot could jump 7 foot? That would be more impressive than someone away over 6 foot jumping nearly 8 foot? Yet they couldn't win a gold for best at jumping high. If you want to start talking genetics etc.
@@madjock-ig5bvmy God you must be stupid. It is self evident that not all males have equally advantageous genetics for various sports, and the same for females. Holy crap some people are so friggin dense and stupid it’s maddening.
@@madjock-ig5bv Michael Phelps has a couple of genetic mutations that give him swimming advantages such as not feeling the burn of lactic acid. The whole thing is farcical anyway - imagining there's any importance to such contests. Utterly trivial nonsense. It's like caring who wins Have I Got New For You.
@@kylereese4822 And? The athletes are tested at the start of the tournament, and the results take time to come back from the lab. Most disqualifications of this kind occur mid-tournament, for that very reason.
@@kylereese4822Imane's Sex Determination Test Result XY= MALE. Ambiguous Genitalia at birth saw a Female Birth Certificate issued. However at Puberty it would have been clear this was an error. Clearly gone through Male Puberty with all of the physical advantages that gives males.
In boxing there are also weight classes, so it would only make sense that the testosterone level would also be checked. It's not about discriminating against anyone. It's about ensuring a fair fight. The passport rule needs to be adjusted. In Germany, for example, you can change your gender once a year. Theoretically, a man could use this method to sneak into the women's class.
Problem with that is that the testosterone can affect different people differently. Some people are more or less unaffected by testosterone and might have high levels without having the benefits.
A male with the same weight and testosterone levels as a female is still significantly stronger than the female, especialy if they have gone through male puberty
@williambarton5681 -- And yet, Kalif has a micro penis and undescended testicles, NOT a vagina. Second, Kalif benefited from TESTOSTERONE when going through MALE puberty. It should not matter what his genitalia LOOKS LIKE.
@@williambarton5681 It might be possible for a handful of humans the world over, throughout history... but nah. Hermaphrodites are _extremely_ rare. It's possible to be born with two upper torsos, or three nipples, or two sets of teeth, of course, all sorts of mutations are possible... but it's not standard, shouldn't be treated as standard, and we certainly shouldn't reconfigure society around them.
The passport gender test seems very very very weak. This "equality act" reference sounds like DEI DEI... Equality of outcome, etc. is ugly.... Is stupid!
ALGERIAN passport, not an american one where you can change it easily, Algeria isn't for beginners my dude, try being trans there and you'll be killed immediately
I don't understand. I'm living in France and to obtain my social security number and health card, I thought that with my passport would be enough, are you kidding me? It isn't, I had to provide my birth certificate, translated (expensive), provide another proof of who I am, and after almost a year, I don't have the SS number nor the health card. They're still thinking what to do about my case. This man provides a passport and some pictures 'proving' he's a woman and that's it, he's ok to do whatever
It took some time, but ultimately men are AGAIN successfully showing us born XX that "they" are the better women. In the fashion and modelling world this has already happened. Please stop the world, I want to get off.
@@muddyshoes2939 seems to me too be a tragic case of The Internet indulging itself in cathartic harassment of a woman who never asked for it and never did a thing to deserve it. And why? Cause she was born a little different and kind of looks a little different? Now we know exactly who would have been lighting the pyre when the village decides that the little girl with six fingers on one hand or one blue eye and one brown eye is a witch.
What exactly are you trying to say? Sounds like you're sticking up for the woman beater. Unless it's ok for guys to slip on a dress and some lippy and kick the bejesus out of women now? Contrary to modern nonsense men & women are not equal and women deserve to be protected from the strength that a man has. Happily most men get this but the ones that don't, they are the ones women need to be protected from. It's nothing to do with physical deformity, it's more of a delusional thing. A man in a dress isn't a woman and shouldn't be allowed to compete as one. While I've nought against a man in a dress in principle, perhaps it would cbe safer if they competed against others like themselves? While possible not the ideal outcome for those individuals, it is undoubtedly fairer to our female athletes.
@@blaisemacpherson7637No, don’t go all medieval, on us! More to the point is that life is unfair, and some are born with disadvantages that they *have* to come to terms with. A blind person for instance will never excel in Formula One racing or be a crack shot shooter! A one legged person won’t be a world class swimmer…..That’s why the Paralympics came into being. We live in a world where everyone *has* to be included no matter what. But sadly it doesn’t work that way. Rather than feed people a lie, wouldn’t it be kinder to teach young people that you can’t always have what you want, but you can still find the path that is better suited to your skills and encourage them in that endeavour? 😢
The challenge we're facing extends beyond mere biological research; it's a broader assault on all scientific disciplines and rational inquiry within our society. However, this is not an insurmountable obstacle, as the scientific method is designed to withstand scrutiny and adversity. Whether in a courtroom or in a laboratory, we will ultimately uncover the truth. It will be exceedingly difficult for a court to dismiss scientific evidence without jeopardizing the integrity of all scientific knowledge. In essence, the defense of science in a legal context is not only about upholding specific findings but also about preserving the foundational principles of empirical investigation and reason.
Lawyers won't let mere biology stand in the way of a good payday. As long as the client has the readies, m'learned friends will fleece her/ him / it to the bone.
Are you even aware what biological factors are at play, and why the IOC decided to move away from genetic testing since the Sydney games? The situation is far more complex than what you seem to imply, and you'd do well to look up the science before presenting it as a case of litigation vs. biology...
@@nicolasjanvier8617 Charging high-profile figures like Elon Musk and J.K. Rowling highlights ongoing challenges within the IOC. The fact that the IOC moved away from genetic testing in 2000 doesn't necessarily resolve legal issues, as courts now have additional grounds to evaluate, including principles of fairness and ethical considerations. This shift introduces broader avenues for legal challenges beyond just scientific evidence, potentially bringing the issue of fairness and ethics in testing to the forefront. While it’s true that this situation is complex, pursuing such charges could open a significant legal and ethical debate. However, science and reason are well-equipped to address these issues, provided we approach them without being swayed by personal emotions.
Because the complaint is criminal and not civil; it is the state that would be paying the fees. In this case; France. The state may or may not drop the case long before requesting extradition. Due to reasons outlined in this video and prior videos; it is very unlikely that the request for extradition would ever be made.
Sure, she made the decision to pretend when she was assigned female at birth. There is a real discussion to be had about how to integrate intersex people into athletics, but you are just hating for the sake of making yourself feel better.
I was diagnosed with transsexualism 20 years ago before gender ideology took off. What most don’t know is back then trans people were free to discuss the medical/ scientific explanations for the disorder, we recognised it as not something we chose but an infliction we wouldn’t wish on anyone. However a new wave of “trans” came in and took over very quickly, they made it taboo to talk about the medical and scientific explanations within the community. Then there was the “you don’t need dysphoria to be trans” movement. This didn’t make sense to many of us and we tried to warn people that if you don’t have GD and transition you may develop GD after the fact and it’s irreversible. But we were shunned, I left the community over a decade ago and I’m thankful I did, its all ideology now, personal identity took the forefront and since I was in the community for support regarding my disorder and such discussion was quashed there was no support left unless you towed the party line. Transsexuals still have a biological sex and it should be embraced and loved since it is such a big part of your being and cant be changed, still this has to be balanced with the disorder and you have to respect that reality also. I really don’t believe most the trans people I see online actually have clinically significant GD, Its very rare and I don’t recognise a lot of what they say reflected in my experience. I think like other disorders like Tourettes the disorder has been appropriated and people are playing pretend. I would just like people to know that there were transsexuals trying to fight back this fire, but they became larger than us and banished us from our own spaces. I saw it all coming 15 years ago but our community was too small to fight it back and the “trans” community is so toxic its probably worse for your mental health to be in it than actually have transsexualism/GD. Don’t let these people gaslight you, they cant even debate objective reality because they actively silence medical and scientific discussion in the matter, thats why not enough research has taken place and why people like me are left without answers.
@@gretarobinson1142 You’re welcome. I love my country and countrymen, you have been here for me, these people though, they would come after me and destroy my livelihood if I spoke publicly, more-so than non-trans people. I’ve never felt oppressed in my country but now every day I see hate and vitriol directed towards me online, in the news, even my prime minister, Its surreal. The “Transgender” community have destroyed our public image, I can’t blame my countrymen for not understanding when its the trans community they see and not people like me who are an unheard minority in what was our community. A taster of whats to come if we lose our freedom to criticise Ideologies.
Transgenderism 😂😂😂😂 you woke and brainwashed generations with your ism's 😂😂😂 you were gay if you were a man who liked men or a woman who likes women. You have a disability if you're born with both reproductive organs, simple.
not as authoritative as you may think. Biological definition of a women also has caveats because there are edge cases. Perhaps the best way to describe is in terms of typical and atypical "women" characteristics. However, Terfs have been tying themselves in knots, describing women's characteristics in order to exclude trans, without appealing to the social traditional aspects of a women, which can undermine feminism, by applying boundaries/scope to that which constitutes a "women". I find the whole discussion, interesting. There is so much motivated reasoning going on all "sides".
@@PianoDentist It is really simple: *XY = male, XX = female. Genotype always trumps phenotype.* *This is the current well-founded genetical expert opinion* - notwithstanding the existence of some very rare conditions like idiopathic, or chimaerism of other causes, hermaphroditism, or intrauterine absorption of a twin of the opposite sex (one "other cause" for chimaerism!). In the *absence of INBREEDING* (in itself rare and most commonly heavily sanctioned for humans) *those rare conditions are NOT a majority of the children born in any population* , but "freaks of nature" (I here without bias use a commonly understandable idiom), as much as stating this fact may be unpopular. *I omit any "allegedlies" for stating current scientific knowledge.*
Mate. She IS female! She's not a Trans woman, she's a BIOLOGICAL woman! She's even uploaded childhood family photos on social media... Unless you're gonna tell me her parents transitioned her as a toddler, you're gonna have a hard time convincing me SHE was ever a HE.
IRONIC the IOC bleat 'Everyone has the right to compete without discriimation' Whilst ignoring the conterpoint that there are concerns genuine 100% women would be placed at near insurmountably unfavourable treatment if required to compete against others who are, shall we say for neutrality, 'less evidentally' 100% female If men are permitted to compete as women Women will be unable to compete in women's sport
Strange how out of the thousands of people that have probably commented unfavouably about this matter, that it is two very wealthy people that they pick on...I wonder why?
@@DenzX_NJ he's male, and he's cheating, and good people oppose that behaviour. I don't know exactly what they said that he doesn't want people to hear, but I expect everything they said was true; we've all seen this before. Female is not a costume, nor is it a government designation, nor is it a developmental disorder, which is what he has. It's not a coincidence that the men posing as women so often win their competitions, but it IS unfair.
@@DenzX_NJ there is nothing female about him other than his passport. I wrote more in another reply, but it had too much truth in it to appear here. You'll have to appeal to TH-cam if you want to read it.
My jaw dropped when you stated it's permissible to advertise a job/role targeting a specific 'group'. It's only permitted by a 'rule' written on paper but in reality it is discriminating against one group. And what/who states when there's a fair balance? It seems to me that discrimination against white people is now written in the rules of this land. This one video alone has been an eye opener for me. I'm a second class citizen.
It should be the person most qualified for the job that gets the job. Having said that though, I've always felt extremely uncomfortable using ladies public toilets when there's a male cleaner working in them. The commenter that raised the issue of a church not necessarily being able to advertise for a Christian employee is a thinker too. The entire workforce of a church all need to be singing from the same hymn sheet (pun intended but also quite literally!). I guess it should be the most appropriate person for the job, as well as the most competent.
This kind of case was fought in California years ago, when a pre-med student couldn't get into a UC medical school because of quotas. He won the case. Bakke vs the Regents of UC, you can look it up.
they only exists becuase hitler wanted to proove his bs.....much like his favourite motor sport turned into F1, and like how he hated samoking and wanted europe under one flag (EU) :S funny coincidence that
@@jimbandaand when she gives those tests and it turns out that she's not trans? All you morons are gonna back off right? And apologize? Or its gonna be some further conspiracy. This is the biggest problem with the right now. In most countries. Its become "I'm right, and if someone shows proof otherwise, its fake." Do you understand how hard it would be to be secretly trans in Algeria?? You'd be executed if they found out. That sounds logical right? Lets transition in a country that doesn't allow it and will kill me for it, and then instead of hiding, let's become a boxer and go to the biggest stage in the world. Seriously, you understand how dumb you guys sound?
@@jimbanda they already take samples for drug taking so they have already supplied blood in countless tournaments prior to the Olympics, how do you think they discovered the XY being present, by cupping their balls......FFS not the brightest!!!!!
@@jimbanda The boxing federation who banned Imane from competing against women did so as Imane has male XY chromosomes and they have that on record already. The Olympics doesn't go on scientific biology ie chromosomes but Marxist ideologues who push gender theory as France and EU do just accept birth certificate and passport.
One of the best "child" stories is in my opnion "The Emperor's New Clothes" it tells a very good lession on how people are forced by fear of rebuke, on mass to tell a lie and not that the truth that the emperor is walking down the street naked. It is the same here, no one is allowed to say a person is a male even though every single cell in his body is male.
Apparently, the claimant has an undeveloped penis and Testicles that failed to drop. And still produces the male Y chromosome. So the claimant might well identify as a woman, but definitely doesn't have a woman's anatomy . So by that very presice definition, he is a he, just an undeveloped one. I might add that this is probably where the big chip on the shoulders of his started from. You can't argue with nature and biological facts. So good luck to this claimant in court, because the facts will beat his feeling every time.!!!!
@@kylereese4822 yes, a 'troubled' history of not agreeing with some of the IOCs choices - ones that show up as biased most obviously now when considering them banning some people for being at war/invading places but not banning other people for being long-term occupiers currently slaughtering people by the tens of thousands etc. As the opening ceremony showed this year the IOC has become very welcoming to some groups and unwelcoming to others. The people insisting that there's something dodgy about the 'he beat a Russian prospect so was banned' should perhaps remember that Russia wasn't allowed to compete in the 2020 or 2024 Olympics so there were no Russian Olympic prospects for him to beat. Also, the President and others may be Russian but the mutiple federations who were members at that time were not Russian, and only appear to have become disatisfied when the IOC said they would stop boxing being an Olympic sport. The other main issue is who the IBA was sponsered by... which is amusing since prior to the Ukraine issue boxing was threatened with being ejected because the association was massively in debt. It's fun for the IOC to be weird about 'where the money comes from' since much of their money comes from broadcasting rights for the Games... Games they make most of the business decisions for but which are almost entirely funded by unknown contributors and the tax-payers in the hosting countries. (I believe that during Covid the USOPC got $200 million in stimulus funding... meant to keep small businesses afloat... how odd is that?)
Sophie Toscon tu Plantier, a Franch national was murdered in Ireland. The suspect, an Irish national was tried in absentia in France and convicted. Questionis, if JKR and EM were convicted in France, could a judge issue a european arrest warrant, thus impairing their ability to do business in the EU.
Imane Khelif never even contested the result of the testing by 2 WADA (World Anti Doping Agency) accredited laboratories via CAS (Court of Arbitration for Sport). This information will be leaked during such a case against Rowling and Musk...
And Dr Lal Pathlabs plus Sistem Tip Laboratories are independent laboratories and have nothing to do with the governing bodies (IBA or IOC) that utilise their expertise to identify doping etc
The boxer isn't 'trans'. It has nothing to do with gender identity. He - I'm using a male pronoun because the boxer has XY chromosomes - has a DSD, a genetic condition with physical manifestations. 'Trans' is about mental health and identity. They aren't the same thing.
@@kylereese4822 I think most people understand that the Boxing Administration body has links with Russia which stops it from being the administrator of the Olympics on the IOC's behalf, basically like the majority of other sports are administered by their governing body in the Olympics, however just solely relying on passports for gender seems inept and ludicrous especially when there has been previous controversy the IOC should have done better for "all" the boxers in the Women's competition and had a proper gender screening programme which would have prevented this travesty from "all" the competitors one way or the other!?!
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Surely if this went to court, absolute evidence of the gender would be required?
My thoughts run the same way. I think yes. The truth lying underneath all the privacy will have to be brought forward to justify the suit.
Ask the lawyer above. He's a barrister.
and he is a man it has been proven by DNA
gender is based on a question' its pointless' sex test is whats needed
No, evidence of sex would be required.
Why does Imane Khelif not FIRST sue the International Boxing Association (IBA) for saying that the sex test results confirmed that Imane Khelif was male and demand that they publicize the result if they disputed the results?
Publicity - and hoping for a lefty jury - just follow the money
Why didn't they appeal to CAS when originally banned?
Initially he appealed, but shortly after withdrew because the test results must be publicly revealed in that case.
HE. Let's not dance around when calling a spade a spade. 🙄
I'm saying they, as there were two of them. And they say this pronoun malarkey isn't confusing....
If you are accused of something and your accuser refuses to provide the evidence there is no case.
This is the most twisted view I have ever heard. The evidence you want doesn't exist. 😂
Guess what Elons lawyers will be chasing genius.@pemberton6974
The Gods are intelligent.
@pemberton6974 how do you know it doesn't exist? What we do know is that both boxers had an opportunity to appeal their ban by the IBA to the Court of Arbitration for Sports, neither chose to do so. We also know that the only requirement for the ioc's own boxing regulator is female stamped in a passport. It's easy to put this to rest by taking a test. That as far as I'm concerned speaks volumes.
Please seek mental help
The media is so placating and encouraging this bizarreness…the ultimate gaslighting!
Which you're saying with zero evidence.
@@minkleymcmoo5248 Really? It’s been reported by several different sources that Khalif is an XY person, and yet the MSM still reports that he is being abused and harassed.
Joe Biden is another example of the media placating and encouraging the lies going on to keep his dementia from becoming public.
You can argue that “news reporters” are just reading whats on the teleprompter, but they are supposed to be journalists with a code of ethics.
So far in both these instances there is no ethics to be seen anywhere from any of them.
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@@minkleymcmoo5248 There's evidence. She was banned from the world championships beause she failed the genetic test and the hormone test.
@@minkleymcmoo5248 Khelif was banned from the world championships last year because she FAILED the genetic test and teh hormone test. That's all the evidence the IBA needed.
It takes balls to sue elon
Not going to encourage you..😐 ....... 🤣😆😁
😂😂😂😂 so right, and yet so 😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂Although hilarious, it's sad what this world has become😢
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The extreme flippancy of the IOC on this issue is appalling. They’ve banned certain swimsuits and disqualify proper for being 500g over weight, but they allow a Y chromosome person with male-level testosterone to box women. This is unbelievably dangerous, and will eventually completely destroy women’s sports if the policies aren’t changed.
100g overweight. The wrestler from India was disqualified for being 100g overweight, which is the equivalent of sis slices of a tangerine. Because weight classes are sacrosanct, sex categories not so much according to the IC.
@@shiina29 How is that fair to women who are born with this chromosome difference but female genitals and hormonal differences. She is a woman.
Boxer is XX
Especially when you understand that male testosterone levels fall between 265-923 ng/dl, while females fall between 15-70. For reference, a male taking steroids is usually 1000-2000 ng/dl. That is, if steroids are cheating because they give you an unfair advantage as a performance enhancing drug, then xy chromosomes boxing women is literally somewhere between 2 and 30 x the advantage of taking steroids.
@@Tad-For-Global-Peace Since no such tests have been conducted, nor released, it's a wonder how you know what literally no one, even the IOC knows...
Sigh...our world has gone completely insane.
Yeah our western world has
Yep, it’s nuts!
@@we4r119 🤣👍
I never thought I would ever see the UK as twisted as it is now.
Sadly true.
This stupidity prevents women from competing in sports & in winning College Scholarships. It can ruin lives.
There are so many women only scholarships outside sports , and most orgs ban trans athletes now . What Imane has is dsd. Which is a super rare disorder. They hv enough opportunities
So stop acting like u care just to spite .
It already has. They are even in prisons n washrooms
So true. There’s women in prison that are getting pregnant by these people.
@@whatsthetea9609 how can you get pregnant by a person with a vagina? Please explain? When are you gonna understand it's not a trans issue.
@@whatsthetea9609they are getting r@ped and pregnant.
The less we talk or watch the olympics the better.
Haven't watched the Olympics since 2000.
I had a bad feeling to the Olympics and for that I avoided it all costs completely and grateful to myself for doing so. I refuse to watch all TV and have done for 2 years plus and only seek true info from genuine people who believe that facts and truth matters.
Never watched any of it for that reason!
@@deanpd34022004 here, I believe they were held in Greece, their original birthplace, where ancient Greeks were competing simply for glory
boycott any organization that allows men to *_sneak_* around and compete against women.
It’s called free speech. We’re allowed to say what we think. And it was with good reason too.
He just explained in previous videos that nowhere not even the US, there is an absolute protection for 'free speech'. Like, inciting imminent lawless action for instance.
But hey, keep repeating what you been told, I'm sure it makes you feel better.
@@MarvinWestmaasWell, Elon lives in the US and what Elon said DOES FALL UNDER FREEDOM OF SPEECH, mate! The UK, on the other hand, doesn’t grant citizens the protection of the US CONSTITUTION. You come off as a know it all who knows enough to be laughable! Filing a lawsuit is a slippery slope because the emperor may indeed be wearing no clothes! Just because his passport may say he is female, doesn’t mean he is a biological female! 🤣😂🤣😂Yes, I SAID HE!!
@@catabaticanabatic3800 Well put
I'm quite confident this travesty of a criminal case (ffs !) will kick Yazooof...in the balls.
Public opinion is...well, public and can be a harsh mistress. He gotta man up and take it
Not without responsibility for the consequences.
I stopped watching the Olympics...
@Ray_of_Light62 _I stopped watching the Olympics..._
I stopped watching the Olympics in 1972 when the IOC condoned the murder of the Israeli athletes by terrorists.
You mean Wokelympics?
I've never watched.. in fact I've never watched any sports.. because I don't care about, nor have any interest in them.
Well, I used to be into archery, until all the rules began to allow for sighting, high tech stuff.
Archery competitions should be only basic bows, no high tech crap
I can't stop laughing at all the crybaby 'whaa whaa I get told they made fun of something and I can't think on my own so I follow their crying whaa whaaa'
Seriously, no one cares about your hurt feelings.
Interest waned 10 years ago
Along with British rotten politicians 🥷🏿🇬🇧
This will be far more entertaining and wholesome than the entire olympics! Bring it on, please!!
Narcissism is a hell of a drug.
Yes a stupifying drug.
@@gpw203 Obviously the deranged Algerian boxer who saw fit to Rob biological women of their chance of a gold medal.
They are entirely incapable of self-reflection.
This Algerian male boxer probably has no idea how bad he looks to 99.9% of the world's population who have not been indoctrinated into the cult of gender ideology.
@@gpw203my guess here is the male boxer is a narcissist!
@@Hollyisthedog how is she male? please explain. she was born a woman and still is a woman, algeria do not participate in LGBTQ ideology.
When the facts aren't allowed to speak for themselves any more.
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What fact numpty?
Well, the facts aren't being allowed to speak at all. They're being hidden with a "we did a test but we won't say which one or the actual results but trust us we totally did it" and it's a single Russian person who decided to do it and they ignored normal policies for this. This also happened after a undefeated Russian was beaten by this boxer so that Russian is still undefeated.
@@theramenshamen9599 Fact that he failed a sex test and passed a gender test
The gender test was a question
The sex test was science
Have they ever ?
I would think both Musk and Rowling are saying "Bring it on!" Maybe they'll bring up a truly puzzling mystery ; why has NO woman who has transitioned to a man ever entered a male sports competition-they were noticibly absent in the mens events at Paris, gave Wimbledon a miss,aren't in any football or rugby teams v other male teams....
But this woman has lost loads of fights and all agree not a trans athlete.
Because of course they’d lose 😂
@@raycorrigan3297maybe Imane is a poor fighter, but punching someone repeatedly in the face isn’t good boxing, and who are these people ? Not transgender but possibly intersex and male dominant like the African runner who they banned.
@@lizroberts1569 but not trans. That was the insinuation.
Bird Brain, this is how it works.
If you are accused of defaming someone, your only defense is to prove to the judge that what you said about that person is true!
Good luck to Musk, Rowling and the many racist haters such as you, who claim that Khelif is transgender or that she is a man pretending to be a woman is real and true!
You, the haters and the losers, prepare to be slammed by the French justice system, where you will be exposed for the racist haters that you are!
I'm a six foot two 210 pound male that feels discriminated because I am not allowed to compete in the UFC featherweight division. My height and weight are natural, I was born this way. Why am I not allowed to pound 60kg men into the floor? I'm suing Dana White!!!
@@NotYourBusiness-bp2qn yep…The obvious has become a “hate campaign”. Idiocy rules the day. Whatever higher power there is, he/she/they, must be dying laughing…
There are weight classes in womens and mens boxing so she wasnt allowed to pound featherweights either. Also when she was in the 2020 olympics and got beaten no one gave a toss
@@cmctavish1970 You don't say? And why is that? Also why are there female and male divisions in almost every sport? Once you've figured that out and once you realize testicles being internal or external gives the same advantage when it comes to competitive sports you can write your reply.
That's not what this is about and you know it..
Agreed. The point about categories within sport is to provide a level playing field.
If the boxing authorities used a chromosome test to exclude the boxers from competing in women's categories, that isn't discrimination, it is just the way all sport works.
Even if the IOC is trying to avoid discrimination, there are better ways to determine gender than the passport!
A lawsuit filed in France by an Algerian against a Brit and a Yank. What could possibly go wrong?
Only the power supply of the popcorn maker.
These are literally the best and most succinct 2 comments I have read.
It's a clown show, with no one having jurisdiction.
Have a second popcorn popper on standby.
@@elizabethhowe2110 I am humbled!
One might ask where HE got the money to pay for it?
I keep asking this and no one will actually explain how this lawsuit can be tried.
The two richest out of millions that thought and said the same thing .
Yup, that was my first thought. This is gold digging, nothing less.
EXACTLY!
Yep, millionaires are morons. Power makes you stupid.
You don't think it has anything to do with them having over 200m followers on X between them? Far more people read their posts than read YOUR posts, for example. They are far more likely to create a domino effect of cyberbullying than you.
Two out of millions who are transphobic!
Trouble is with this case. I believe that if it does go to court it could be more harmful to them than anybody. Because if it's proved that the XY chromosomes exist, their medals should get stripped. I think I can see a massive backfire coming
I hope it does, because that is exactly what needs to be showcased. This person is a man, and does not qualify to win a medal intended for a woman.
One can hope for justice, but neither lawyers or courts are in the habit of producing justice.
If the case relates to 'cyber bullying' then the complainant's gender has absolutely nothing to do with it. You can bully somebody over something that's true (if indeed what they've said is true - I don't use that cesspit of a platform, so I have no idea) quite easily.
There's a lot of talk about intersex, which muddies the waters with no evidence whatsoever that it even applies to this case. A discussion of intersex is a valid topic in general. Maybe those people are stronger than women, but weaker than men and deserve their own category (may be too small of a group). If we are going to have that discussion I think we need to talk about Atrazine and the elitist ruling class' depopulation agenda.
xy chromosomes? where did you read that, i need immediate source with full proof right now, so we can all believe this BS
Olympics in France was like Eurovision.
Worse!
Yeah I agree it was quite nice to watch
Was Garbage
An Algerian dude, in Paris, suing a Scottish and American citizen for being mean 😂😂😂
France will kneel of course and play along. Cowards
Except she was born female! How much convincing do you need? Her father brought out her birth certificate, in a country where being gay is a crime, and you still hod to your delusions. Also, defamation isn't "being mean", claiming you are a steroid-adled cheater olympian when you aren't is defamation
this isn't a dude...
Jerk ⬆️⬆️⬆️
What's the rest of the joke?
JK in the sights again for protecting women. This is a circus.
Its not called clown world for nothing.
She never does anything to defend women. She seems to spend all her time attaching trans people instead.
JK is also racist apparently
@@haruhisuzumiya6650Yup she hates successful white middle aged women. Makes total sense .
Perhaps 'the boxer' has been put up to it as a means of shutting down alternative opinion/ censorship.
Female Athletes need to start suing someone..! Please take it to Court.. Finally DNA would be confirmed..
That’ll be female boxers of both sexes.
She is a female athletes
I agree
@SubZero-hs9xc No he's not!
I watched a swimming event (not the Olympics) where all the women withdrew moments before their race rather than swim with a male.
It made the event irrelevant.
Women testosterone: 30 - 70 ng/dL
For men: 300 - 1.000 ng/dL.
It's a clear gap, and if a woman has more, it could be a dangerous tumor. If a woman has male levels, it's unfair, regardless of chromosomes, but high testosterone plus xy chromosomes imo should be enough, to not let a person compete against women...
Yup. Sounds like many serious competitive sports use such physiological markers for qualification. Meanwhile the Olympics’ is about as sophisticated as a beer league.
Derek from More Plates More Dates has many hours of content analyzing how other sporting events manage these tests. In comparison the Olympics is a joke.
Her testosterone levels are normal for a woman boxer - she was tested for testosterone levels. Why do you lot of pond scum persist in persecuting people with your false allegations just to make yourselves happy that your perceptions of the world are true?
@@alx9r Actually the IOC generally lets the sport's governing bodies do the determination. Boxing is an anomaly.
Well if Imane has over 70ng/DL with the urine test she HAS to take now with winning a gold she will get disqualified in the next week. If she doesn't get DQ'd then we know she's good and in the ranges.
@@nijjijjion204 It doesn't matter if he can manage to bring down his testosterone levels, he still has XY chromosomes and testis, and went through male, not female, puberty. He should compete against other males, not females.
I will never bother with the Olympic Games anymore.
I didn't this time 👍
@@cpyart nor did I bud, I gave up on the opening ceremony
Well … I suppose … but did you catch the break-dancing competitions?
me too
You will be missed. Who are you again?
This boxer was banned by the
WBBC at the world championships last year ! The problem lies with the IOPC who wen't woke and discarded the WBC advice . He/ she will be lucky to win a case against Musk or Rowling.
Did they appeal this decision?
@@johnworkman2743one did, but abandoned the appeal due to shortage of funds.
He. Let's not dance around calling a spade a spade.
@stellabright
You’re gonna go to court to explain why you feel safe enough to speak FACTS
@@sandystormable 🤣
Isnt it a funny coincidence (NOT) that BOTH boxers that were banned by the World boxing association won golds? The notion that a passport is in any way relevant is absurd as I stated a fortnight ago.
It tells a story doesn't it
Birth cert male or female end of story 😊
@@laceandwhisky Even that's not conclusive. Only a chromosome test is.
Although I get what you are saying, they have been around for years and were pretty middle of the card until world championship.
Also as a general rule if IBA want to be taken seriously again you should publish the results, the fact they haven't is a bit suspect. Part of the reason they are banned from Olympics is lack of transparency and corruption.
Maybe they do have XY chromosomes but IOC shouldn't just be taken their word for it, and if the information they were given doesn't meet their standards then you don't accept it.
IOC will be doing testosterone tests, if they fail that then they will be disqualified. But people are jumping to conclusions without even knowing what test they failed.
@@abergreg Which we have no idea if the IBA did that seeing as they haven't even said what test they failed except they failed a test. I am happy to be shown to be wrong, but I don't just accept what someone tells me without proof.
I think the women should file lawsuits that they had to fight a man and they were on women’s team.
what including the ones that beat her? is that how it goes now? if someone loses no one cares but if they win and they aren't white we want to find a reason to stop them
لماذا لم يقاضوها يا ذكي هل جئت بأمر لم يفكرو به ؟؟ هي انثى وهزمتهم شر هزيمة لانهم امامها ضعفاء
What about the "Real" women? Don't they have the right for no discrimination?
1. The official statement of the IBA they released during the Olympics never mentions 'XY' just that a 'specific test' was done. Neither did they share this test result.
2. The IBA only decided to do this test after their beloved *ORC* boxer lost her undefeated status against Imane.
3. The fact Imane did not see an appeal through does in no way give merit to the statement of the IBA, considering Imane and many others are already leaving the *ORC* mob run and kremlin tied IBA for World Boxing.
4. These kremlin ties are certainly part of why the IBA on purpose wanted to cause civil unrest and feed tension with far right 'viewpoints', not only does this lower our trust in government it also makes governments less stable and more influential by kremlin allies.
5. The real issue is here is communication from the IOC. They try to hide behind stating they the IOC only checks gender through official documentation when they have much better avenues of approach for instance referencing Caster Semenya. This female sprinter, produced excessive amounts of male hormones.
Semenya run into doping accusations, this is how they found out her condition. The IOC would allow her to compete, if she took testosterone blockers. This on the basis that she would have an unfair advantage otherwise. She didn't want to comply, and appealed the IOC's ruling at the CAS. CAS decided the IOC was in their rights.
Not only does this show the IOC tests on aspects giving a not allowed advantage. Like having a to high testosterone level. Since we don't hear her being accused of this, never in her 8 years of boxing, the IOC should have pointed out that Imane didn't have any performance enhancing markers in their own testing, instead of making a statement which makes it look like IOC 'only looks at a passport'.
Amen......
No. Clearly they don’t matter at all. Best for women to give up. Then these strange folks won’t have anyone to play with.
@@MarvinWestmaasx and y is a male..
HELL, NO. MEN IN DRESSES COME FIRST.
Exactly the sort of idiocy you'd expect from someone like this.
Not sure who you are referring to...can you clarify your meaning?
well perhaps he isn't getting the sponsorship so many Olympiads receive and needs to make the money in other ways, like a court case for damages? Its just seems so very sad.
@@ianlarman You know exactly who don't play dumb.
He's a typical woke disgrace to the trans community.
@@tommyrotton9468Perhaps, oh dear.
Imagine robbing a bank & suing the witnesses for pointing you out in the lineup. The world has gone insane!
Because turns out... she was a ciswoman all along...
This is more like: there was no bank robbery at all & the "witness" made it up - that's why it's Criminal Harassment.
More like imagine someone storming in to bank, pointing at a random person there and yelling “ They are robbing the bank!”. And then crying when eventually police come and see that there indeed not one thing got stolen.
Just when you think you can't dislike someone more than you do, they do this.
Why do you dislike someone you do not even know? If I understood your message correctly, you channel your feelings based on "Hear Say" or prejudice, only you know the answer?
@@mabrouk642 Boxing is pairing people who have equal abilities, you do not put a fly weight in with a a heavy weight. The way this person won is not normal and has some kind of advantage which makes for dislike.
This is nothing to do with gender, it's purely to do with sex characteristics and sporting eligibility. I really hope she wins her case because of the vile and ignorant rhetoric from these two individuals. I would also criticise BB for suggesting intersex people are flawed and defective. They are not.
@@mabrouk642 Khelif has failed a "Gender Test" by one particular Boxing Organisation. Allegedly because she had increased levels of testosterone, or at least testosterone levels higher than you'd expect to find in a biological, XX chromosome woman.
Higher levels of testosterone will give someone greater muscle mass, higher bone density, a larger heart, larger hands, larger lungs, and fast twitch muscle action amongst other things.
All of these are beneficial in a close contact sport like boxing, and would undoubtedly give an unfair advantage over female competitors.
If Khelif is aware of this yet still chose to fight women then I'd say she is indeed a rather unlikeable person.
All that would be needed to settle this entire debate would be for her to have a simple testosterone test, which she would then make public.
@@lindsaybelderson7735 You're right about confusion over "Trans" and "Intersex", however if she has raised testosterone levels to the range expected in an XY male then she should NOT compete against XX women.
The complete lack of a scientific approach to the issue of segregation of male and female competitors in sport astounds me. To base these decisions on paperwork like birth certificates and passports risks putting males and females against each other in physical competition, which is neither ethical, nor, in many instances, safe.
Which......... did not happen. I'm astounded at the ignorance in your comment.
@@louisavondart9178 Which totally happened. It has XY cromosomes and male levels of testosterone as proven in tests. Dna wins over your feelings.
@@louisavondart9178 The Italian boxer stopped the fight at 46 seconds because she said she had never been hit like that before. That is because Imane has the upper body strength of a man.
@@louisavondart9178 XY begs to differ
Bollox, you all set a stupid criteria as to what makes a woman a woman and said it was obvious.
She fits that definition completely.
If there are only 2 genders, she is a woman by every metric. Reality bites.
So pointing out someone cheating is now bullying… Got it.
😁😂🤣 yeah
Only if they belong to the protected class. You can still call out white hetero men for cheating. Not to worry. That's why Russia is out of the olympics, but China is in.
I'm not taking a side but would like to point out it was never cheating though. Think about it Imane has competed and lost to women over the years.
The IBA (who have their issues) only did this gender test last year after the event which raises the question why weren't they prevented from competing in the first place instead of testing and stripping Imane and Lin of their gold and bronze medals after the fact.
Side note: The IBA was suspended in 2019 due to corruption, match-fixing and financial scandals.
Who's cheating. You guys are pathological liars. You are just pissed because of your sorry life
The mantra of the ignorant and the stupid: "Got it."
"The law does permit" -- which law? IOC rules? British law? French law? There is no single global law even where international agreements exist.
The elitist ruling class are working on it, one set of rules for them and one set for the other 8 billion of us!! Shiva4President (add appropriate website suffix to learn more).
@@drytool Working on it? The elitist ruling class have been doing this since 3000 BCE.
@@drytool I should point out that the elitist ruling class likes the chaos in law since it gives them loopholes to cheat and steal through.
Their clearly shooting with the widest gun hoping to hit something..
He says it's the law in Britain
Signs of insanity:
1 doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.
2 sueing two billionaires at once.
Hilarious!
Good post here. You have made a really good point about taking on two billionaires at once! Just for the record I love JK Rowling and I am growing to love Elon Musk.
Maybe convincing yourself that you have no advantage over unquestionably female women is another sign. Along with this whole trans business.
@@simonwoods8809a sign of narcissism??❤
hoping to get big bucks!!!
"Passport says female, good enough for us" - Olympic committee. I'm sure no country would ever exploit that...🤔
Just so you know she's not trans, she's more likely to be intersex. It's definitely a shaky field
If Imane went through male puberty? Men have more muscle mass, especially in the upper body. It gives men 157% more strength ( I read that on google). If the Olympics would allow transwomen to participate, I would ask where are the transmen participants ( hypothetically).
Nobody complains about transmen participating in male sports because they don’t dominate.
I am old enough to remember the cycle of jokes every four years about the East German female athletes. One was how they could have gotten rich endorsing mens razors.
birth cert said female as well dichhead
This is like saying, we won’t do any drug testing on athletes because we have a certificate saying that they are not taking any illegal drugs.
Regardless of the current 'rules' regarding this matter. If a biological woman took testosterone injections throughout her entire teen years then stopped a year before attempting to compete in a sporting event she would be banned, probably for life for doping. Yet a biological male who has the testosterone naturally throughout their life can take 'blockers' for a few months and is then allowed to compete against biological women. The rules no longer make any sense when considered logically and this is the position of people like Rowling and Musk.
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The problem is, the "gender testing" that they currently have, as far as I am aware, merely checks Testosterone levels... That is hardly an accurate indicator of gender, as evidenced by Imane who has a DSD disorder, which affects how people develop growing up (be it hormones, reproductive organs and even genitals).
She is still a WOMAN. She was never born as a man and she never transitioned into being a woman because she already was one! She has a high Testosterone count because of this disorder, and is very butch and masculine as a result. She even looks boyish as a small child.
You realise this is the same argument the radical trans activists spout, right? They say a Trans woman should be able to compete against biological women "if their Testosterone levels are low enough" - but we ALL know that sex/gender is so much more than hormones, for example, lung capacity and bone density. THAT is why it's unfair for a Trans woman to compete against biological women, regardless of Testosterone levels.
So it's kind of hilarious that people are saying "SHE'S NOT A WOMAN BECAUSE SHE FAILED THE GENDER TEST" - Which literally just means she has high Testosterone levels, nothing else.
@@skyealexander4605 I could change the gender on my passport for £35 if I wished to
@@kimwiser445 tell me, Kim, how do you think these "gender tests" work? Do tell us.
"Hate speech in the United States cannot be directly regulated by the government due to the fundamental right to freedom of speech protected by the Constitution. While "hate speech" is not a legal term in the United States, the U.S. Supreme Court has repeatedly ruled that most of what would qualify as hate speech in other western countries is legally protected free speech under the First Amendment. Supreme Court case, Matal v. Tam (2017)"
What's the reality in the US, though, with all the special laws for Jews? (Judaism being a smokescreen used by Zionists who are actually anti-Jewish).
Seems utterly irrelevant, as long as Imane Khelif is not sueing under a US jurisiction.
@@ThW5 Khelif should be in prison for assaulting that female.
@@pimpernelsmith3798 That is a ridiculous premise, by your logic so should any male boxer be in prison for "assaulting" any other boxer in the male division that is trans or presenting male and has XX chromesones. But no one knows or cares about that because there is no gender testing in the male division. And no one cared about this 4 years ago when she was losing matches to other female boxers. Beyond that the entire sport itself is consented/permitted assault. It's what all participants sign up for.
@@susanseifert4472 Deal with reality, the female boxer should have grounds to sue as should all female sports participants encountering men hijacking their sports. That would include all the officials bodies that allow this travesty. How's that for logic WOKE lady?
"Everyone has the right to compete without discrimination" ... I'd say that the female boxers, who have trained for their entire adult lives feel pretty discriminated against.
@@LukeMovement1 He.
So, I wonder why none of the other female boxers are filing suits against Imane? including the Italian boxer who walked off and later apologised.... Seems to me that if the other female boxers recognise her as a woman, then you don't have much of a leg to stand on....
Women are now under attack! Suffragettes died for women’s rights.
I hope you mean the real biological women who were forced to fight against men. All the women boxers should have refused to fight those 2 men.
I don't really like the idea of female boxers. Female poisoners and stranglers yes, but boxers no - not quite the thing.
I demand a gender reveal done scientifically. not by written or verbal thanks
Scientifically: lower 👖 , OK , I can see @@
@@infinitydreamzz Nope, "roll up your sleeve" -> take blood, DNA test, SEX revealed. X and Y are the sex-DEFINING chromosomes (nudgenudgewinkwink, spot the clue).
@@infinitydreamzz That is not scientific.
Athletes refuse to tell the truth or submit to new testing to clear controversy. IBA's assertions are discredited. IOC collides in cover up. The female boxing athletes should sue the IOC.
@steveinoz8188 see a birth certificate at birth says what gender lets see that your a damn male act like it woman beater
Saying they just want to go off the gender on a passport is just a cheap way out of the argument.
The way I look t it is ' The PassPort is nothing more than a Pass to exit
and enter a Port' I
In the realm of determining the actual gender and genetics on an individual
is about as useful as a POST OFFICE Postcode.
It would be akin to telling POLICE who wish ti identify som'one' and that
some'one' telling them :
{ "" I looked in the mirror and it is definitely me "" - Now -
"" You look in the mirror and tell me if it is definitely you "" }
The fact that they are prioritising the printed value on a passport as opposed to the results of a scientific test imply they're different
The real issue is here is communication from the IOC. They try to hide behind stating they the IOC only checks gender through official documentation when they have much better avenues of approach for instance referencing Caster Semenya. This female sprinter produces excessive amounts of male hormones because of having internal male tests.
Semenya run into doping accusations, this is how they found out her condition. The IOC would allow her to compete, if she took testosterone blockers. This on the basis that she would have an unfair advantage otherwise. She didn't want to comply, and appealed the IOC's ruling at the CAS. CAS decided the IOC was in their rights.
Not only does this show the IOC tests on aspects giving a not allowed advantage. Like having a to high testosterone level. Since we don't hear her being accused of this, never in her 8 years of boxing, the IOC should have pointed out that Imane didn't have any performance enhancing markers in their own testing, instead of making a statement which makes it look like IOC 'only looks at a passport'.
@@RaenRyongwhat scientific test? It doesn't exist.
My question...does the dude have a dork or not? And not in his mouth. And F the Olympics....they have broke them now.
Kehlif needs to return HIS women’s gold medal. The IOC should be demanding this. Include a trans or intersex category in boxing but do not allow XY to compete in WOMEN’s category.
@@willowflowerchild What would you call a person born with female genitals but xy ?
Did you look at the viseo?
LMAO we already have it. You did not look up her country of origin, did you? They don't recognize trans and her passport has to match gender as identified the doctor at birth.
DNA test for discovery... and no nexus
Yup. Elon will hire doctors and will PROVE He is a man in discovery. He will tear HIM apart.
You have understood none of the nuance, even that which BBB discussed in the video!!
@@chimpana
Simple solution: DNA
evidence has to be
present for Olympic
events. Not the
gender (male/female)
stated on the person's
passport.
Our species has only
2 genders/2 sexes
XX = Female
XY = Male
One is born
either XX or XY
No matter how
many hormones
taken or how many
body bits are added
or subtracted; one
is either XX or XY.[1]
_____________________
1.) Even people afflicted
with hermaphroditism
are either "XX" or "XY".
Hermaphroditism either
adds/subtracts (sometimes
both) physical sexual
characteristics.
He mentioned the condition
"Swyer syndrome"[2]
In this day and age, the
situation can be
remedied by surgery
after the DNA (xx/xy)
of the individual is
determined
If trans people compete,
they have to have their
own categories =
XX competing as men
XY competing as women.
I do not think that there
will be much of a demand
by the public to watch either:
XX competing as men
XY competing as women.
Perhaps they should have
their own Olympics; like
the "Olympics" for people
with mental and physical
disabilities have ("Special
Olympics" it used to be
called)
2.) *Swyer syndrome*
aka: "XY gonadal dysgenesis"
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XY_gonadal_dysgenesis
@@ArjayMartin a ultrasound scan would also very quickly prove the matter one way or another wouldn’t it - no female reproductive organs (ovaries, fallopian tubes, uterus, cervix, vagina, inner and outer labia for example , or imaging showing all the usual male internal reproductive organs plus outer genitalia that didn’t develop as typical, with no or micro penis and internal testes.
@@debhartley716 or DNA
Cyber bulling after he beat a women up.
Spot on
If he was born female and a Muslim why hasten she covered her head
Good point. Hurty wordies vs beating a woman up. Hmmmmm….
If we don’t get stronger free speech rights, we’ll end up having every public debate being concluded in a courtroom.
France is not a good country in which to end up in court.
I thought that was the aim, as the majority can't afford it and therefore are kept quite.
What freedom of speech 😢
But remember Strong Free Speech/Expression is not Americas stupid level of Freedom, Its better to have Freedom to offend.
if our politicians don't know how to define a woman, why do you think our Judges can? The judges are supposed to follow the laws set by those same politicians who cant define a woman. It is not safe to have judges adjudicating on public debate. See what happened with the protests.
This is ridiculous. I think JK should counter sue for her rights. She is being persecuted for her beliefs. her rights to be straight , her freedom to express herself.
No has no right to bully however.
@@wendybond2848 pointing out cheaters who are hurting women is basically J.K.‘s job now…..it‘s not bullying to point out the Kaiser‘s new clothes
Ratios in workforces is a ridiculous notion and should be illegal. Merit is the only metric that should play a role.
not the way the 'equality of outcome' crowd see things. Perhaps we should ask the passengers on Boeing airliners about 'equality of outcome', assuming they survive the experience
A corporation complying with diversity inclusion and equallity standards benefits them in debates with councils & regulators. What you say is what sounds correct to you but is not what is asked from your government the companies to follow.
Simple example of your dei is up you can be forgiven for other things t he at you are not that good and in the end for companies the end result is money. If you been scored up on abuse but scored up on dei you will be easier and you will make more money and have better voice in your local council than if you scored down on dei and score down on abuse. And will be heard less from local councils so more problems in the second situation than in the first.
Unfortunately you can not blame the company. The only person you can blame is yourself because you allowed it to happen the last ten years. You allowed with your vote and your lack of involvement to politics.
When you decided to be involved was too late (if you decided)
Yes that is correct, box ticking to get numbers up really helps getting the right candidate for the job😂
They are illegal in the EU and anyone who doesn't get a job despite being the best candidate has the right to sue. What the ratios are however is a useful tool to point out possible cases of discrimination. If a workplace has no female, black, gay, religious minority, senior or whatever else type of employee despite there being a reasonable supply of such candidates it absolutely should be grounds for an investigation into their hiring practices.
Discriminating against certain groups to the point that DEI is even necessary to correct the problem is ridiculous.
The IOC does not test for sex and or testosterone.
The IOC lets a sports governing body set their own rules regarding testing for sex and or testosterone and eligibility.
The IOC disqualifies the IBA as the governing body for boxing.
Boxing in the Olympics defaults to the IOC rules.
Not how they are raised, not what the birth certificate says, not what a passport says, not about feelings, not about the IOC's inclusive mental gymnastics, not personally identifying as, not magical thinking...
Strange how the disorders that confer the advantages of male puberty to an athlete are always treated with more deference than the safety and fairplay to unambiguous women athletes.
It is NOT womens responsibility to make nice, share, empathize, and accommodate the Y chomazone to the detriment of their own safety, medals, scholarships, sponsorships, money, professional development, and job opportunities.
*DSD conditions are both heartbreaking and extremely difficult to diagnose and classify.*
In the future, unambiguous Females and unambiguous Males carry on as usual.
Perhaps, athletes with complicated disorders should be in the Paralympic Games or have TransFemale & DSD and TransMale & DSD categories, to be sorted out separately
*The IOC must take responsibility and have the suitable testing and categories for athletes to compete, instead if passing the responsibility off to others while women get hurt.*
The IOC knows. It's intentional. There's a reason as of right now the 2028 Olympics is not including boxing. First time in a century. They are afraid someone could get seriously hurt and it would hurt their agenda. Unless something changes in the next 4 years other sports they will continue to use passports.
@@acerrubrum5749 She's not Trans she was born with female genitals inside and out it's a genetic abnormality that occurs. She's not a male.
Oh btw, their acts would be considered discriminatory against biological women. This is seriously, clown world. 😕
Mysogony
In some cases, yes. Thing is, overall it's not. It's mainly groups (Mainly women, strangely.) of people thinking they're doing the moral act, when all they're doing is creating unfair playing field.
There are also plenty of trans peeps etc out there, that are totally against such people competing against women.
So long as it's "unjust" etc, they pull out all the stops on this rubbish and it's why they keep getting away with it.
People need to metaphorically man up and say, no and if you keep this up, we'll put you in prison for wasting the courts etc time.
What brainless lawyer in France thought this case was a good idea to bring.
Ultimately a person with xy chromosomes and elevated testosterone won a gold medal by repeatedly punching women in the face. Unless the women also had elevated testosterone then it was an unfair fight. But yet “they” are suing because ? They think the fight was equal??
They forced the Italian woman to apologize to her/him! The next woman even did not do that, after she was rudely beaten up!
Is it fair tall people win in the high jump? Surely that is unfair? What if a person 5 foot could jump 7 foot? That would be more impressive than someone away over 6 foot jumping nearly 8 foot? Yet they couldn't win a gold for best at jumping high. If you want to start talking genetics etc.
Swyer Syndrome has either zero testosterone or any that would make a difference, she got there like other top athletes,sheer hard work and talent 💪
@@madjock-ig5bvmy God you must be stupid. It is self evident that not all males have equally advantageous genetics for various sports, and the same for females. Holy crap some people are so friggin dense and stupid it’s maddening.
@@madjock-ig5bv Michael Phelps has a couple of genetic mutations that give him swimming advantages such as not feeling the burn of lactic acid. The whole thing is farcical anyway - imagining there's any importance to such contests. Utterly trivial nonsense. It's like caring who wins Have I Got New For You.
'Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive'.
Well said.
I always thought this was Burns but it is actually Sir Walter Scott. How apt that you have said this.
@@kylereese4822 And? The athletes are tested at the start of the tournament, and the results take time to come back from the lab. Most disqualifications of this kind occur mid-tournament, for that very reason.
@@kylereese4822Imane's Sex Determination Test Result XY= MALE.
Ambiguous Genitalia at birth saw a Female Birth Certificate issued.
However at Puberty it would have been clear this was an error.
Clearly gone through Male Puberty with all of the physical advantages that gives males.
Walter Scott - most apposite, D V....
In boxing there are also weight classes, so it would only make sense that the testosterone level would also be checked. It's not about discriminating against anyone. It's about ensuring a fair fight.
The passport rule needs to be adjusted. In Germany, for example, you can change your gender once a year. Theoretically, a man could use this method to sneak into the women's class.
In Algeria you obviously cannot change your gender on your passport. It will be as your birth certificate.
Problem with that is that the testosterone can affect different people differently. Some people are more or less unaffected by testosterone and might have high levels without having the benefits.
Change your 'gender' via clothing, make-up, hair, nails, voice, walk, etc.
Change the biological sex of a mammal? Not gonna happen.
A male with the same weight and testosterone levels as a female is still significantly stronger than the female, especialy if they have gone through male puberty
I Guess but you have to draw a line somewhere. Sure it’s unfair for some. But it’s better than being unfair for most.
And then force it to return the medal in disgrace
This boxer has 100% got balls that’s why the World boxing authority have banned him,and the weak woke Olympic committee have not.
As Daniel explains in the video, it's possible to have XY chromosomes and female genitalia and XX chromosomes and male genitalia.
@@nayelle2658show your evidence for this statement!
@williambarton5681 -- And yet, Kalif has a micro penis and undescended testicles, NOT a vagina.
Second, Kalif benefited from TESTOSTERONE when going through MALE puberty.
It should not matter what his genitalia LOOKS LIKE.
@@williambarton5681 It might be possible for a handful of humans the world over, throughout history... but nah.
Hermaphrodites are _extremely_ rare. It's possible to be born with two upper torsos, or three nipples, or two sets of teeth, of course, all sorts of mutations are possible... but it's not standard, shouldn't be treated as standard, and we certainly shouldn't reconfigure society around them.
That's the problem!
Before long, people will sue people for breathing the wrong way.
Hmm doesnt seem to far fetched they dig the dead up and prosecute them😂😂
It's all so tiresome and pathetic! Crass commercialized retarded drama ala DIE...hyperreality. A poor facsimile of nature. BLAH
My wife wants to all the time
@@mickman0073 Good luck if you find a still-breathing vampire :-)))
😂😂
The passport gender test seems very very very weak.
This "equality act" reference sounds like DEI
DEI... Equality of outcome, etc. is ugly.... Is stupid!
ALGERIAN passport, not an american one where you can change it easily, Algeria isn't for beginners my dude, try being trans there and you'll be killed immediately
I don't understand. I'm living in France and to obtain my social security number and health card, I thought that with my passport would be enough, are you kidding me? It isn't, I had to provide my birth certificate, translated (expensive), provide another proof of who I am, and after almost a year, I don't have the SS number nor the health card. They're still thinking what to do about my case. This man provides a passport and some pictures 'proving' he's a woman and that's it, he's ok to do whatever
That boxing fight lasted two punches, 46 seconds.
What a tragic and sad case demonstrating yet again that women are literally being run out of competitions all to suit a bunch of cheating individuals.
It took some time, but ultimately men are AGAIN successfully showing us born XX that "they" are the better women. In the fashion and modelling world this has already happened. Please stop the world, I want to get off.
@@muddyshoes2939 seems to me too be a tragic case of The Internet indulging itself in cathartic harassment of a woman who never asked for it and never did a thing to deserve it. And why? Cause she was born a little different and kind of looks a little different? Now we know exactly who would have been lighting the pyre when the village decides that the little girl with six fingers on one hand or one blue eye and one brown eye is a witch.
What exactly are you trying to say? Sounds like you're sticking up for the woman beater. Unless it's ok for guys to slip on a dress and some lippy and kick the bejesus out of women now? Contrary to modern nonsense men & women are not equal and women deserve to be protected from the strength that a man has. Happily most men get this but the ones that don't, they are the ones women need to be protected from. It's nothing to do with physical deformity, it's more of a delusional thing. A man in a dress isn't a woman and shouldn't be allowed to compete as one. While I've nought against a man in a dress in principle, perhaps it would cbe safer if they competed against others like themselves? While possible not the ideal outcome for those individuals, it is undoubtedly fairer to our female athletes.
XY chromosomes- do your homework!!
@@blaisemacpherson7637No, don’t go all medieval, on us! More to the point is that life is unfair, and some are born with disadvantages that they *have* to come to terms with. A blind person for instance will never excel in Formula One racing or be a crack shot shooter! A one legged person won’t be a world class swimmer…..That’s why the Paralympics came into being.
We live in a world where everyone *has* to be included no matter what. But sadly it doesn’t work that way. Rather than feed people a lie, wouldn’t it be kinder to teach young people that you can’t always have what you want, but you can still find the path that is better suited to your skills and encourage them in that endeavour?
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Litigation vs Biology. The new normal.
It's all political lawfare we don't need a new term for it ;)
The challenge we're facing extends beyond mere biological research; it's a broader assault on all scientific disciplines and rational inquiry within our society. However, this is not an insurmountable obstacle, as the scientific method is designed to withstand scrutiny and adversity. Whether in a courtroom or in a laboratory, we will ultimately uncover the truth. It will be exceedingly difficult for a court to dismiss scientific evidence without jeopardizing the integrity of all scientific knowledge. In essence, the defense of science in a legal context is not only about upholding specific findings but also about preserving the foundational principles of empirical investigation and reason.
Lawyers won't let mere biology stand in the way of a good payday. As long as the client has the readies, m'learned friends will fleece her/ him / it to the bone.
Are you even aware what biological factors are at play, and why the IOC decided to move away from genetic testing since the Sydney games? The situation is far more complex than what you seem to imply, and you'd do well to look up the science before presenting it as a case of litigation vs. biology...
@@nicolasjanvier8617 Charging high-profile figures like Elon Musk and J.K. Rowling highlights ongoing challenges within the IOC. The fact that the IOC moved away from genetic testing in 2000 doesn't necessarily resolve legal issues, as courts now have additional grounds to evaluate, including principles of fairness and ethical considerations. This shift introduces broader avenues for legal challenges beyond just scientific evidence, potentially bringing the issue of fairness and ethics in testing to the forefront.
While it’s true that this situation is complex, pursuing such charges could open a significant legal and ethical debate. However, science and reason are well-equipped to address these issues, provided we approach them without being swayed by personal emotions.
The question remains who is paying for Khelifs court fees because this could run into millions? The backer needs exposing.
Because the complaint is criminal and not civil; it is the state that would be paying the fees. In this case; France. The state may or may not drop the case long before requesting extradition. Due to reasons outlined in this video and prior videos; it is very unlikely that the request for extradition would ever be made.
@@markr4404 it's not going anywhere.
@@basedelon agreed... it was done for publicity.
@@basedelon I concur.
The woke left are zeroing in on Musk atm. Rowling may just be collateral damage. I'd be interested to know who's financing this legal action.
"I pretend to be a woman and take pride is beating up women, but I'm the victim"
Truly a clown world we live in 🤡🙄
It's an Islam thing so it's ok.
And they’d like to make some money out of it.
Sure, she made the decision to pretend when she was assigned female at birth. There is a real discussion to be had about how to integrate intersex people into athletics, but you are just hating for the sake of making yourself feel better.
your the clown.
It's full of clowns alright. Like people who always go on about people 'not knowing what a woman is', who then show they don't know what a woman is.
I was diagnosed with transsexualism 20 years ago before gender ideology took off.
What most don’t know is back then trans people were free to discuss the medical/ scientific explanations for the disorder, we recognised it as not something we chose but an infliction we wouldn’t wish on anyone. However a new wave of “trans” came in and took over very quickly, they made it taboo to talk about the medical and scientific explanations within the community.
Then there was the “you don’t need dysphoria to be trans” movement.
This didn’t make sense to many of us and we tried to warn people that if you don’t have GD and transition you may develop GD after the fact and it’s irreversible.
But we were shunned, I left the community over a decade ago and I’m thankful I did, its all ideology now, personal identity took the forefront and since I was in the community for support regarding my disorder and such discussion was quashed there was no support left unless you towed the party line.
Transsexuals still have a biological sex and it should be embraced and loved since it is such a big part of your being and cant be changed, still this has to be balanced with the disorder and you have to respect that reality also.
I really don’t believe most the trans people I see online actually have clinically significant GD, Its very rare and I don’t recognise a lot of what they say reflected in my experience.
I think like other disorders like Tourettes the disorder has been appropriated and people are playing pretend.
I would just like people to know that there were transsexuals trying to fight back this fire, but they became larger than us and banished us from our own spaces. I saw it all coming 15 years ago but our community was too small to fight it back and the “trans” community is so toxic its probably worse for your mental health to be in it than actually have transsexualism/GD.
Don’t let these people gaslight you, they cant even debate objective reality because they actively silence medical and scientific discussion in the matter, thats why not enough research has taken place and why people like me are left without answers.
Thankyou for explaining this
@@gretarobinson1142
You’re welcome. I love my country and countrymen, you have been here for me, these people though, they would come after me and destroy my livelihood if I spoke publicly, more-so than non-trans people.
I’ve never felt oppressed in my country but now every day I see hate and vitriol directed towards me online, in the news, even my prime minister, Its surreal.
The “Transgender” community have destroyed our public image, I can’t blame my countrymen for not understanding when its the trans community they see and not people like me who are an unheard minority in what was our community.
A taster of whats to come if we lose our freedom to criticise Ideologies.
and hermaphrodite related birth defects these affect about 3% of the population to a lesser or greater extent
Transgenderism 😂😂😂😂 you woke and brainwashed generations with your ism's 😂😂😂 you were gay if you were a man who liked men or a woman who likes women. You have a disability if you're born with both reproductive organs, simple.
Transsexualism is real. Transgender is fake.
The Olympics guy in charge of this circus is the WEth communications director, come to your own conclusions!
What is "Weth"?
@@userxyz64world economic forum I think he’s saying
What’s his name?
@@userxyz64 How I sidestep AI censorship
@@Yeahyeah-r7p thanks.
Such very fine cloth Emperor, and such a fine cut
There's a lot of that going around. We've spent over three years pretending our president isn't senile.
Sure, shouldn't that be, 'upper cut', Doherty 😉
Andrew Gold and Dr Emma Hilton have the authoritative discussion on this.
I saw that yesterday - very enlightening!
Carole Hooven provides some interesting comments as well.
And Colin Wright.
not as authoritative as you may think. Biological definition of a women also has caveats because there are edge cases. Perhaps the best way to describe is in terms of typical and atypical "women" characteristics. However, Terfs have been tying themselves in knots, describing women's characteristics in order to exclude trans, without appealing to the social traditional aspects of a women, which can undermine feminism, by applying boundaries/scope to that which constitutes a "women".
I find the whole discussion, interesting. There is so much motivated reasoning going on all "sides".
@@PianoDentist It is really simple: *XY = male, XX = female. Genotype always trumps phenotype.*
*This is the current well-founded genetical expert opinion* - notwithstanding the existence of some very rare conditions like idiopathic, or chimaerism of other causes, hermaphroditism, or intrauterine absorption of a twin of the opposite sex (one "other cause" for chimaerism!).
In the *absence of INBREEDING* (in itself rare and most commonly heavily sanctioned for humans) *those rare conditions are NOT a majority of the children born in any population* , but "freaks of nature" (I here without bias use a commonly understandable idiom), as much as stating this fact may be unpopular.
*I omit any "allegedlies" for stating current scientific knowledge.*
A fake lawsuit for a fake insult file by a fake woman.
I'm so old, I remember when the world sort of made sense.
Good one!
That frk shouldnt have been allowed to compete with women! They should all take HIM to court
Who else had to edit then delete their comments and then decided not to bother anyway?
Nah, Yousetube excell at that on their own.
They just deleted my post
I thought that I were the only one, or made a mistake ("Error returned"), OK, no typos fixed.
Bitterness, jealousy and dishonesty is one hell of a drug. 🤦
you missed Greed - money grabbing.
S/he was born in a rural village and most likely miss-gendered at birth due to having a micro penis that resembled a vagina. The IOC are mad.
As is pathological dishonesty.
@@Nilzipan Well. That's lawyers for you...
Females hate other females' but this guy is next level' he likes to punch them
Female boxing athletes need to sue the IOC for an unfair competition
I'm waiting for discovery. This will be fun.😀
First thing is to demand a DNA test then award the medal to the female.
Mate. She IS female! She's not a Trans woman, she's a BIOLOGICAL woman! She's even uploaded childhood family photos on social media... Unless you're gonna tell me her parents transitioned her as a toddler, you're gonna have a hard time convincing me SHE was ever a HE.
IRONIC the IOC bleat 'Everyone has the right to compete without discriimation'
Whilst ignoring the conterpoint that there are concerns genuine 100% women would be placed at near insurmountably unfavourable treatment if required to compete against others who are, shall we say for neutrality, 'less evidentally' 100% female
If men are permitted to compete as women
Women will be unable to compete in women's sport
Strange how out of the thousands of people that have probably commented unfavouably about this matter, that it is two very wealthy people that they pick on...I wonder why?
I would guess it is because they don't fear losing their jobs
Because they're gobby morons. Clueless ones at that. Neither of them speak for women. And they were at the front of this on X.
Ching ching......£$£$£$£$
Money
The same reason nobody took MJ to court for criminal prosecution, it’s all about money.
The world has gone mad! Self entitlement and victim mentality. It’s not bullying, it’s freedom of speech and expression.
Jews are at war with all Gentile freedoms.
The world is filling up with deluded people, it gets dangerous when they try and force their delusion on others...
There should be no punishment for telling the truth.
It's not true that's why there is a suit do some research
@@DenzX_NJ he's male, and he's cheating, and good people oppose that behaviour. I don't know exactly what they said that he doesn't want people to hear, but I expect everything they said was true; we've all seen this before. Female is not a costume, nor is it a government designation, nor is it a developmental disorder, which is what he has. It's not a coincidence that the men posing as women so often win their competitions, but it IS unfair.
@@DenzX_NJ there is nothing female about him other than his passport. I wrote more in another reply, but it had too much truth in it to appear here. You'll have to appeal to TH-cam if you want to read it.
@@DenzX_NJit’s not a defamation case, if it were then he’d have to prove his gender. He’s clearly trying to avoid that.
@@Shibgo983so deffamation a woman born woman IS now free speech 🤣🤣🤣 you know nothing about french laws poor you
My jaw dropped when you stated it's permissible to advertise a job/role targeting a specific 'group'. It's only permitted by a 'rule' written on paper but in reality it is discriminating against one group. And what/who states when there's a fair balance? It seems to me that discrimination against white people is now written in the rules of this land. This one video alone has been an eye opener for me. I'm a second class citizen.
Yes, this jarred with me too. This provides a whole lot more problems than what our current societies are able to emulate - my opinion.
Churches are not allowed to advertise for Christians in the job description!
It should be the person most qualified for the job that gets the job. Having said that though, I've always felt extremely uncomfortable using ladies public toilets when there's a male cleaner working in them.
The commenter that raised the issue of a church not necessarily being able to advertise for a Christian employee is a thinker too. The entire workforce of a church all need to be singing from the same hymn sheet (pun intended but also quite literally!).
I guess it should be the most appropriate person for the job, as well as the most competent.
This kind of case was fought in California years ago, when a pre-med student couldn't get into a UC medical school because of quotas. He won the case. Bakke vs the Regents of UC, you can look it up.
@@janegardener1662Excellent to know
Countries compete for medals. Countries issue passports. Anyone else see an issue here?
I have a feeling that Kalef will lose whatever money he has and his gold medal will be taken from him. Quite right too.
This is a born woman, spent her life as a woman & has been beaten nine times during her career by women!
So trans is not the issue here!🙄
That will depend on the judge. We know that France has their share of weirdos. The Olympics opening and closing fiasco is proof.
Except she was *always* a woman, since she was born...
Harrassment = expression of an opposing opinion.
Clown species
In the west you lack of morals values! You can say what you think without harming others!
The olympics are finished
Bread and circuses, have been replaced with bread lines. Orwell must be howling with laughter.
Along with the Eurovision song contest
they only exists becuase hitler wanted to proove his bs.....much like his favourite motor sport turned into F1, and like how he hated samoking and wanted europe under one flag (EU) :S
funny coincidence that
Tuesday has finished, but guess what? There will be another one next week!
Yes, the Olympics are finished!
Too much politics and cheating defeats the entire Olympic idea. Not much of a sports event now, is it?
The poor female boxer who had the crap punched out of her by a Biological Man! Should be filing a criminal law suit against Khelif
Sister Darren ,, please ask her to do it, our Imane knows very well what has in her pants
Elon and JKR should file a counter-claim of aggravated cyber-bullying.
Or they can just ask for the dude to give tests to confirm those male characteristics, if he won't, it's over.
@@jimbandaand when she gives those tests and it turns out that she's not trans? All you morons are gonna back off right? And apologize? Or its gonna be some further conspiracy. This is the biggest problem with the right now. In most countries.
Its become "I'm right, and if someone shows proof otherwise, its fake."
Do you understand how hard it would be to be secretly trans in Algeria?? You'd be executed if they found out. That sounds logical right? Lets transition in a country that doesn't allow it and will kill me for it, and then instead of hiding, let's become a boxer and go to the biggest stage in the world. Seriously, you understand how dumb you guys sound?
@@jimbanda Unless its a liable trial in the US and you are an orange man, in which case you will have to prove your innocence or be ordered to pay.
@@jimbanda they already take samples for drug taking so they have already supplied blood in countless tournaments prior to the Olympics, how do you think they discovered the XY being present, by cupping their balls......FFS not the brightest!!!!!
@@jimbanda The boxing federation who banned Imane from competing against women did so as Imane has male XY chromosomes and they have that on record already. The Olympics doesn't go on scientific biology ie chromosomes but Marxist ideologues who push gender theory as France and EU do just accept birth certificate and passport.
Hahaha, looking forward to the discovery process
Discovery process would be something like this: I see 2 @@ !
One of the best "child" stories is in my opnion "The Emperor's New Clothes" it tells a very good lession on how people are forced by fear of rebuke, on mass to tell a lie and not that the truth that the emperor is walking down the street naked.
It is the same here, no one is allowed to say a person is a male even though every single cell in his body is male.
Who will be the 'child' who finally announces the emperor's lack of raiment?🤣
@@salguodrolyat2594 Many people, but they do not listen!
@@salguodrolyat2594 Now Elon Musk and Rowling!
@@agotapongor2069 but nowadays they will punish the 'child' who blurts out the truth.🤔
Just exemplifies how outrageously self entitled and delusional these people are.
What a sad bloke he must be.
He smells money! 💰💰💰
Indeed. He must have a really small you-know-what.
I know no balls 🤣
Elon crying in his bathtub of money
XY is male. What is the problem?
Need to get rid of DEI and ESG
Two Blokes fighting women and they both win gold - pretty conclusive.
She lost in the quarter finals in Tokyo, nobody seemed to care about her then. The right just want to target any women that don't fit in their box.
Lawsuit against ELON MUSK!?!
That takes balls!
Or stupidity
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Fortunately he's got two to spare
Apparently, the claimant has an undeveloped penis and Testicles that failed to drop. And still produces the male Y chromosome.
So the claimant might well identify as a woman, but definitely doesn't have a woman's anatomy .
So by that very presice definition, he is a he, just an undeveloped one.
I might add that this is probably where the big chip on the shoulders of his started from.
You can't argue with nature and biological facts.
So good luck to this claimant in court, because the facts will beat his feeling every time.!!!!
@@BradLad56Are you jealous my little enuch?
That boxer who won the gold medal, he cheated.
Funny the Algerian boxer has been defeated by other women before.
@@SimplySketchyGT Tactical losses.
@@kylereese4822 yes, a 'troubled' history of not agreeing with some of the IOCs choices - ones that show up as biased most obviously now when considering them banning some people for being at war/invading places but not banning other people for being long-term occupiers currently slaughtering people by the tens of thousands etc. As the opening ceremony showed this year the IOC has become very welcoming to some groups and unwelcoming to others. The people insisting that there's something dodgy about the 'he beat a Russian prospect so was banned' should perhaps remember that Russia wasn't allowed to compete in the 2020 or 2024 Olympics so there were no Russian Olympic prospects for him to beat. Also, the President and others may be Russian but the mutiple federations who were members at that time were not Russian, and only appear to have become disatisfied when the IOC said they would stop boxing being an Olympic sport. The other main issue is who the IBA was sponsered by... which is amusing since prior to the Ukraine issue boxing was threatened with being ejected because the association was massively in debt. It's fun for the IOC to be weird about 'where the money comes from' since much of their money comes from broadcasting rights for the Games... Games they make most of the business decisions for but which are almost entirely funded by unknown contributors and the tax-payers in the hosting countries. (I believe that during Covid the USOPC got $200 million in stimulus funding... meant to keep small businesses afloat... how odd is that?)
Have you considered trying to be smarter?
Quite ironic as a staunch Labour supporter, Rowling has had no support from the ‘people’s party’ 😂😂
Criminal complaint to a country that the supposed offenders were not in, nuts...
But they said mean things…
You missed the point.
Reminds me of something. 😁
Yes, he has nuts...
Sophie Toscon tu Plantier, a Franch national was murdered in Ireland. The suspect, an Irish national was tried in absentia in France and convicted.
Questionis, if JKR and EM were convicted in France, could a judge issue a european arrest warrant, thus impairing their ability to do business in the EU.
So is he also suing the boxing federation who banned him for failing a "gender test"
Imane Khelif never even contested the result of the testing by 2 WADA (World Anti Doping Agency) accredited laboratories via CAS (Court of Arbitration for Sport). This information will be leaked during such a case against Rowling and Musk...
And Dr Lal Pathlabs plus Sistem Tip Laboratories are independent laboratories and have nothing to do with the governing bodies (IBA or IOC) that utilise their expertise to identify doping etc
He didn't appeal as he was entitled too
@@1lighthorse having XXY chromosomes does not make you a "man" or a Male though.....
@@1lighthorse I do hope they try to follow through with this because it will likely end this whole nonsense
The sooner everyone accepts that there is no such thing as 'trans', the better.
Don’t forget that the earth is flat and men never landed on the moon!
@john8451 those are not at all comparable
The boxer isn't 'trans'. It has nothing to do with gender identity. He - I'm using a male pronoun because the boxer has XY chromosomes - has a DSD, a genetic condition with physical manifestations. 'Trans' is about mental health and identity. They aren't the same thing.
There are a few peole with 3 chromozones called intersex though have euther male or female genitilia
@@john8451 Hahahaha don't get me started FFS!
It's a crazy old world... If it quacks like a duck!😂😂😂
A man that beats up women calls out best African American a bully? What!?
Yes , irony at its sickest .
@@kylereese4822 It's not ok for men to beat up women, even if they're Russian.
@@kylereese4822 HE
@@kylereese4822 I think most people understand that the Boxing Administration body has links with Russia which stops it from being the administrator of the Olympics on the IOC's behalf, basically like the majority of other sports are administered by their governing body in the Olympics, however just solely relying on passports for gender seems inept and ludicrous especially when there has been previous controversy the IOC should have done better for "all" the boxers in the Women's competition and had a proper gender screening programme which would have prevented this travesty from "all" the competitors one way or the other!?!
Apparently Imane Khelif is a devout Muslim, so should Imane be boxing in the first place?
Very good point
They seem to enjoy fighting?
Surely better in a ring?
Shims very peaceful 😂
Lots of Muslims box 🙄
Who would have thought it?